Mad T LOunge

Posted on May 12, 2013

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Darlings, the partners of Sterling Cooper Draper and Whatever The Hell Else They’re Calling Themselves Now kindly request that you order an Old Fashioned (or whatever Mother’s Day cocktail floats your boat), sit back, and let the late ’60s ennui and anxiety wash all over you.

 

Of course the preview tells us nothing, but for the first time this season, we’re DYING to see what’s going to happen next. Here’s hoping they can sustain the momentum from last week and don’t get caught up in yet another Don Draper “I’m so tortured by my demons” bullshit-fest.

Your Mad Style assignment for tonight is not to look for the blue-and-green motif or the ladies-in-black one, or pajamas-in-the-Draper-apartment one. Instead, if the story is going in the direction it appears to be (i.e., the merger actually goes through) then we should all look for costumes that signal this new status quo. We’re gonna be keeping our eyes on Peggy’s clothes.

 

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  • FloridaLlamaLover

    What??? First!

  • FloridaLlamaLover

    Okay – I kept waiting for Megan to put on a red dress last week when her Mom told her “don’t dress like his wife” — SO relieved that she wore that shiny dress instead! Lots of blue and green last week, too, we’ll see what tonight brings. Looking forward to seeing what goes on with Plucky Peggy — geez, I hope against hope she doesn’t get the short end of the stick with this merger!

  • http://www.facebook.com/hellene2 Hellene Jakinovich

    Whee! Bourbon coming up!

  • http://twitter.com/pennyeager Penny Eager

    I want a little scene between Peggy and Peggy’s SCDP replacement. Just a little something. But seriously, poor Peggy.

  • http://twitter.com/GinAndTonicFor2 GinAndTonicFor2

    Happy Mother’s Day all.
    Yes, Peggy, and as a counter-point, Pete.
    Some Prosecco please, it was hot today and that seems refreshing.

  • http://twitter.com/LauHope Laura Shemyck

    I want to see Peggy and the new woman copywriter at SDCP fight each other to see who can shave off Ginsberg’s stache.

    • formerlyAnon

      Dunno. The mustache that curves down around the lips is either “in” or soon to become so in the rock ‘n roll culture – and Peggy seems to be fine with Abe’s facial hair.

      What I want somebody to do is to take that boy shopping. Six shirts, 3 pair of slacks, one jacket of approximately the correct size (two if the money holds out) and a couple of ties. It can even be less-than-great quality, if only it’s all color co-ordinating and looks as if he is its original owner. Also, preferably, hold his old wardrobe hostage till he gets used to the new one and can maybe be trusted to save the old for weekends and cleaning the apartment. Though god knows, I imagine his thrifty, poor-but-striving self would have heart failure at the prospect of spending so much money all at once.

      • MartyBellerMask

        Well his wardrobe and thrifty lifestyle will defintiely keep him from landing a gal like Beverly Farber. So he might b up for a makeover! Or maybe start agressively pursuing lower-maintenence women.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josefina-Madariaga-Suárez/100002964685796 Josefina Madariaga Suárez

    I can’t wait to see the dynamic between Peggy and the creative staff, now that she’s more powerful and after the whole Heinz episode.

  • unbornfawn

    Christina Hendricks looks amazing! That blue dress on her is a stunner. She needs to dress like this on the red carpet. That touch of trim over the hips really balances out her figure nicely.

  • 3boysful

    So happy–my boys shaved their (admittedly fledgling) neckbeards for me for Mother’s Day!

    • formerlyAnon

      THAT is love.

  • MilaXX

    No sure if I’ll make it. It’s barely 8pm and I can hardly keep my eyes open. I’m setting the DVR for everything.

  • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

    I will start cooling the tonic water. No champagne in the house –oops, wrong lounge. Gin and tonics then!

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Virtual vodka and tonics for me, as I already have a bottle of chardonnay opened – needed some for the chicken paprikash I made for my dinner tonight, and…. well, it’s quite drinkable.

      An hour and 15 minutes to go. About enough time to set the kitchen and all the pots and pans and dishes to rights – the time’ll fly.

  • formerlyAnon

    If they go off into the hinterlands of plot (otherwise known as Don, Megan and Betty) and leave me stranded wondering what happens with Peggy, I shall be mightily displeased. Even if she’s going to struggle and/or do dumb things *cough*Ted*cough*, I still wanna know.

  • NDC_IPCentral

    I couldn’t participate in the First Ever TLOunge for Mad Men last weekend as I was out of town and not cable-accessible. Finally saw last Sunday’s episode yesterday evening, and what a wowzer! I’m looking forward to this evening’s developments, too.

    Lane Pryce, your name, and memory, are history. Peggy, don’t emulate Don in all things, namely, adulterous behavior, namely, Ted, no matter how cuddlesome and needy he seems. Joan, stay feisty; Episode 6′s tirade had me shouting encouragement to you on the screen. Pete, you’re losing one of the best things in your life, Trudy, but your Draper emulation makes that inevitable. Roger – would I ever love to have a drink or twelve with you, or a rollicking affair. Don, can you pull out of your death spiral, at least for a while, with the invigoration of a revamped enterprise? As to your home life – well, that’s another story, isn’t it?

    • Qitkat

      Hell of a spiral it turned out to be, too!

  • Peeve

    I agreed with you guys–poor Peggy! But I still can’t wait to see how the partners greet this merger…

  • Peeve

    Megan was so good at calling Don on the bullshit last season. This season, she’s turned into a pile of mush!

    • Pennymac

      Megan is close to being on my ” imaginary” celebrity hate list! (Instead of my actual celebrity hate list, LOL)

      • Peeve

        I don’t hate her, but I wish she had the backbone she had last season. She had confidence, and she and Don seemed to understand each other pretty well. Now, she just whines to her mother, instead of calling Don out like she would have before. Disappointing.

        • pamasutra

          I think, like Betty, that living with Don and his demons has worn Megan down and eroded her self confidence.

    • VeryClaire

      Because she doesn’t know what the bullshit is. But when she finds out… here’s hoping she does and kicks his ass to the curb!

      • Peeve

        Hopefully soon!

      • formerlyAnon

        Yes. She knows things are not right, but she doesn’t have a clear picture, yet of what’s “off.” It doesn’t help that Don doesn’t grasp everything that’s wrong – obviously, he knows he’s cheating, and that Megan’s success fuels his sexual jealousy and irritation/anger – but he doesn’t grasp the whole mechanism that drives him.

  • Pennymac

    It is so nice to be excited for the lounge because of the show, the BK’s, and the fabulosity of the Uncles! PR had given me “Lounge Resignation”. Fellow BK’s were still wonderful, and the Uncles still fabulous, but the show had definitely lost its luster and my T LOunge experience felt diminished.

    Huzzah, Mad Men!

  • PowerfulBusiness

    Ahh, agreed T and Lo…this is the first episode since the premiere that I am just constantly staring at the clock and fidgeting in my seat excited for. So much good stuff ahead.

  • http://www.ellenciompi.com/ NurseEllen

    I have a White Russian in hand and am willing to sit through the commercials to see what happens. I’m betting that Megan gets pregnant again, although not in this episode. RFK for sure. Maybe “Classical Gas” on the playlist this week? I’d like to see Sally getting tickets to a Monkees concert!

    • http://asskickingadviser.com/ Ass Kicking Adviser

      You are simultaneously giving a flash forward for the episode and a flashback for me. I heart the Monkees. sigh..

      • 3boysful

        Daydream Believer!

    • Qitkat

      Not enough Sally this season. Disappointed.

  • http://asskickingadviser.com/ Ass Kicking Adviser

    Don’t be bitter TLo. Those scenes with Don are not about Don and his torture. It’s a world-weary metaphor for life. We let charismatic men do crazy things and get away with it. That’s what makes the world go around. The rest of us think we’re in charge but we’re not. Mussolini, Castro, Stalin, Napolean, etc., etc. Think about it. What drives the plot points in Mad Men? Don. The rest of the characters are just reacting to his fits and starts, mistakes and foibles. No fate. Too busy dealing with the consequences of broken people. I’m pretty sure The Sopranos was about the same thing.

    What? It’s Mother’s Day. I’m entitled. To that statement and the drinks that led me there.

    • JasmineAM

      This! Don is definitely not the World’s Greatest Person; it takes two to tango. Sylvia showed him that he was boss. She has a voice, and could’ve stood up to Don. His countless whores and mistresses let him get away with a lot of shit.

    • http://www.facebook.com/megan.kennedy.395 Megan Kennedy

      YES I like this. And we think about why he would do such awful things, because surely there must be a reason, right? He must be tortured. He can’t just be cruel and nihilistic and self-serving without a narrative that justifies all that. Just like his mistresses, we’re tempted to try and figure him out in order to console ourselves. We are disgusted when he continually disappoints us, because we are disgusted with our inability to find an explanation.

  • alula_auburn

    Having just had an exceedingly irritating discussion with the outside marketer we hired at my job, and being called “unreasonable” and “so particular” for wanting “New York” to be spelled and capitalized correctly, I am ready to look at SDCP + Cleogh, or whatever they are now, with a particularly arched eyebrow of grumpage.

    • Peeve

      Wow. That outside marketer you HIRED should be gone really fast!

      • alula_auburn

        sadly, I’m not the money person, just the person who has to go back and forth between the marketers and the bosses.

    • formerlyAnon

      Jesus, Mary, and Joseph! Bad enough to perform so poorly, worse to act as if you’re the unreasonable one. And when so many English majors – many with advanced degrees – are begging for employment.

  • Cheryl

    Just in time! Busy celebrating the big 6-4 today but made sure I got here for the Lounge. Let’s get in a Vega and go!

    • 3boysful

      Happy Birthday from the BKs!

  • nosniveling

    borrriiinggggg! Sylvia in the preview :(

    • Cheryl

      Good news, Don, it looks like she’s available.

      • nosniveling

        dunno, he looked pretty relieved to get away from the screeching.

  • Qitkat

    Puff, puff, puff…I just made it. Hail to all bitter kittens and happy Mother’s Day ! Now to curl up on the sofa and look for Peggy’s new power color.

  • Qitkat

    Ooh good directed by John Slattery.

    • Pennymac

      I said the same thing.

  • P M

    Put that little bitch in her place, Joanie

  • PastryGoddess

    Can I have one of all of the furniture

  • VictoriaDiNardo

    ah ha – they DID buy the building!

    • Pennymac

      Irritation of the poop on the step mystery solved!

    • Crystal

      I shouted that when she said it. I was like “WE WERE RIGHT!!”

      • VictoriaDiNardo

        And thank heavens for the TLounge, because my husband had no idea why I said the same thing!

  • P M

    And another one flies over Meredith’s head

  • Not applicable

    Doh! Peggy got the office with the column!! :(

  • alula_auburn

    I was counting how many kinds of awkward there were in this meeting and I got a headache.

  • P M

    Musical seats lol

  • Not applicable

    Awesome Pete’s mom!! And she’s an AM drinker!

  • Pennymac

    Pete is such a TOOL!!!

  • P M

    Want me to get that? OOOHHH

  • Qitkat

    Ted: groovy!

  • http://www.facebook.com/judy.julian77 Judy Julian

    Bob Benson and his ever-present cup of coffee lurking in the background. What IS his story?

    • PastryGoddess

      agreed they need give us an answer ASAP

      • EveEve

        indeed – they managed to steer the script into making him a potential love interest for Joanie. can we say “trite”?

        • Crystal

          that would be one of the worst couples ever. Well, the worst couple in which one of the people involved is not Don Draper.

  • nosniveling

    nononononono don’t go there Don!!!!!!

  • alula_auburn

    wow, that orange number is. . .something on Lady Sylvia of the Sorrows. Even for lounge wear.

    • Cheryl

      I’d rather see Megan (well, whatever she’s wearing) than Sylvia.

  • Not applicable

    Rut Roh… Lady Madonna is making demands…

  • P M

    Hey the wallpaper in Roger’s office has changed.

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

      He switched offices. They were moving his chairs up to the second floor when Joan was on the staircase.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Vaguely oriental, in a Peacock Room/Whistler sort of way. An homage to Burt Cooper?

      • decormaven

        Roger got Harry Crane’s office upstairs. Ted C. got Roger’s old office downstairs.

  • Pennymac

    Bye Bye Bert!

  • alula_auburn

    Ken Cosgrove–a six foot version of Alan Ladd!

    • AutumnInNY

      Like Barbie before me, I love Ken.

  • PastryGoddess

    God I love Roger’s method of firing people

    • Pennymac

      I aspire to it!

      • PastryGoddess

        We should all aspire to this level of panache.

  • P M

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA. Bob Benson gets his~!

  • Pennymac

    Oh, please. Who cares who Don Shtups? SSDD

  • OrigamiRose

    Ugh. Enough of Sylvia.

  • Sandra

    The walls look vaguely green in that hotel room…

    • P M

      And Sylvia seems to match its wallpaper

  • alula_auburn

    “groovy” “rap session” oh, Ted.

    • Not applicable

      About margarine! Yea man…

      • alula_auburn

        if you were stoned, I bet that would be a lot of fun.

        • Not applicable

          I wish I were stoned right now!

      • PastryGoddess

        *rimshot*

      • Pennymac

        Wonder if that Napoleon stuff is true?

        • PastryGoddess

          googlefu says yes

          • Pennymac

            Hard to believe the French would admit to it….

        • Not applicable

          Well, what else is the Internet for??

        • swiss_miss

          Did she only say Napoléon or Napoéon the third? Because it wasn’t the Napoléon but Louis Napoléon III.

          • Verascity

            She said Napoleon the third.

  • P M

    How interesting – the blues and golds in that rap session

  • P M

    Whore and john, oh Sylvia how can you not see?

  • alula_auburn

    oh, for God’s sake. it’s like Don time traveled just enough to read 50 Shades of Gray.

    • PastryGoddess

      HA

    • nosniveling

      oh for god’s sake is right, way to ruin the momentum of the whole show!

      • Cheryl

        Seriously, I can hear the whole Internet grumbling. A major miscalculation by Weiner. Don Season 6 does not have the sex appeal of Don Season 1. (Although JHamm in real life still does.)

        • Verascity

          I don’t see how it’s a miscalculation when the whole point was that it turned out to be not as sexy and captivating as he thought it was. She was clearly not particularly into it.

          • EveEve

            It’s a miscalculation because it’s hackneyed and unsubtle and a waste of valuable plot development time. Weiner’s need to get rid of a character in Don’s life…we get it… Don’ needs to dominate … we get it…we got it a long time ago…let’s move forward…

    • Pennymac

      Creeped out.

    • Qitkat

      I’ve never even wanted to read it, but if this episode per Don’s behavior is a hint, I’m glad I passed.

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    Random thought: Bob Benson as a stand-in for Baby Boomers generally. BB.

    • Cheryl

      I would put him at about 28 (considering he does have a pretty good resume), which would put his birth at 1940. My bro, an original BB from 1946, had just graduated college in 1968.

      • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

        When did we hear his resume?

        • Cheryl

          When he first introduced himself to Don, gave his college, previous employers and the campaigns he worked on. He’s been in the business for awhile.

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    Also, a lot of pastels this episode, I think.

  • P M

    Welcome to the pleasure of working with Don. NOT.

  • P M

    Ooh. Simmering resentment.

  • MilaXX

    I can’t imagine this merger lasting

    • Cheryl

      or my patience.

  • P M

    Whipcrack! GO TED! Finally someone tells Don off.

  • OrigamiRose

    Good for Ted. Don is going to schtupp (sic?) himself out of relevancy.

    • Pennymac

      Agreed. Or have a major personality malfunction. Like, is he a psycho??

  • Not applicable

    Oh shit.. Ted is not down with Dons ” routine” day 1… That’s not good.

  • Pennymac

    Get em, Ted!

  • Peeve

    Whattadick!

  • P M

    Don feels very out of control and turns into a Dom. Hm……..

  • Not applicable

    Hahha… And so the pissing match begins! Aw Ted, you can’t out drink Don!

    • P M

      I think that’s a good sign

      • Not applicable

        Yea, Don is winning this round. Ted is no match.

  • Pennymac

    Tell him, Pete!

  • P M

    Oh wow – Pete is stuck with Mummie. This’ll be good.

  • P M

    Oh wow – Ted got stuck with the Vertigo pic LOL

  • Not applicable

    Ah, such nice Mother’s Day messaging. “Lets get the paperwork started.” Hahha thank you MW!

    • P M

      methinks the man has MAJOR Mummie issues

  • P M

    Don’s trying to embarrass Ted.

    • Pennymac

      Looks like it worked.

    • unpious

      All that’s missing is an oyster lunch and a run up the stairs.

  • Pennymac

    Ah, the old Gilligans Isle marketing ploy.

  • MilaXX

    red nightie, bet

  • Pennymac

    Red dress!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • P M

      You beat me to it

  • MilaXX

    you are officially a ho’

  • alula_auburn

    uh-oh, Joanie. . .

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

    Totally knew that’d be a red dress.

  • tamsta99

    He buys her a red dress… too on the nose…

    • EveEve

      not a dress – lingerie

  • MilaXX

    Appendicitus

    • Pennymac

      Wrong side

    • Cheryl

      Pregnant?

      • MilaXX

        not unless it an ectopic pregnancy

    • PastryGoddess

      cyst or fibroids

      • MilaXX

        and we have a winner

        • PastryGoddess

          *blush*

          It just seemed the easiest and most convenient way to have an “issue” and have it wrapped up by the end of the episode.

          Also, I’ve been there and that shit hurts like a mother

    • John Gregor

      I was going with ovarian torsion as my theory under the assumption that it was going to be enough of an emergency to need surgical intervention.

  • Not applicable

    OF COURSE! It’s a red nightgown!

  • P M

    Bob is ………… a human?? Wow

  • OrigamiRose

    Okay, I am really hating Don tonight. That was a shitty thing to do to Ted, who is nothing but professional (and respectful of Don, no less).

    • Pennymac

      Me too. Weiner is turning us against him for some reason….

      • OrigamiRose

        Maybe instead of Don jumping out a window, Weiner is building a case for someone to give Don a push.

        I know I’d volunteer.

        • joything

          That’s been my speculation. Who’ll do it? Megan? Sylvia? Pete?

          • OrigamiRose

            All of them? :)

            Pete seems the type but I don’t think *he’s* going to be alive at the end of the series. Prior to Sylvia dumping him, I would have guessed her husband.

            My money is on Marie.

      • alula_auburn

        For at least the past season or so, I’ve thought Weiner was actually a little too caught up in Don as Troubled Masculine Protagonist, whose results are meant to justify the means (of being an asshole a lot of the time), but I don’t quite think this is the way to address this. Unless end game just Don ending as a failed, miserable alcoholic who is no longer handsome or clever enough to get by on charisma.

      • Laura Osborne

        Turning us against him? Umm….in all honesty, Don is turning me on in this episode, for the first time ever. Not just in his scene with Sylvia, but also in how he is dominating everyone else, too, even if they don’t know it at the time.

        • http://www.facebook.com/megan.kennedy.395 Megan Kennedy

          Yeah, the domination scenes with Sylvia gave me feelings, cliche or not. But he’s still an asshole. They’re not mutually exclusive, being turned on by him and turned against him.

  • Not applicable

    Yep. Round 1, Draper.

  • PastryGoddess

    peggy is pissed

  • Peeve

    More like who’s the alcoholic, and who’s not.

    • P M

      Which is still a measure of a man to Don

      • Peeve

        True, that.

  • Qitkat

    Peggy is really pissed at Don and disgusted with Ted.

    • P M

      I don’t think she’s disgusted, just dismayed.

      • Cheryl

        I don’t think Ted will let this happen again.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Don seduces, and then he dispatches.

      But Ted’s no lightweight – I bet he’s wary of Don after the hangover hits.

  • Peeve

    Like I said, whattadick!

  • http://www.ellenciompi.com/ NurseEllen

    In the Saks box is…….SOMETHING RED! Of course.

    • MisScarlett

      YES! Felt like a for realz Bitter Kitten noticing that too “!

  • NDC_IPCentral

    Joan, Joan… your malaise has me very, very worried. If it’s the non-appendix side…. yipes.

    Don, malice be you tonight. What’s eating at your vitals, the envy monster, somehow? Are you going to sabotage the camel you committee’d?

    • nosniveling

      she can NOT be knocked up by Herb!!

      • NDC_IPCentral

        I think the assignation with Herb was quite a while ago – remember, we’re now halfway through 1968. And the explanation – a cyst on her ovaries, well, given my ovarian cancer last year, I was figuring the diagnosis would be on that order. Empathy for Joanie here…..

        • formerlyAnon

          What is WITH plot turnings for the women characters at SCDPWhatever that turn on their female parts? Pregnancy, rape, cysts, prostituting oneself, unwise affairs, one-off sexual encounters! Only Peggy’s job change and Joan’s marriage (if we posit that marriage is about more than institutionalizing intercourse) changed a woman character’s life, albeit temporarily in BOTH cases, in a major way without involving the female sexual organs.

          • decormaven

            Don’t forget Dr. Faye Miller, who made her bones with the defining feminine product image, “the carefree girl in white pants.”

  • Wellworn

    I am trying but I can’t do it. I am too distracted by TLounge to pay attention to the show. Keep pausing the DVR and now I’m way behind. I’m too old to keep up with the multi-tasking social media stuff. Later all.

  • JasmineAM

    Christina Hendricks needs to hire that hair and makeup gay(s) that did her liquor commercial look.

    • guest2visits

      Well my husband certainly thinks so.

    • Not applicable

      Agreed. I just got up and made a drink!

  • P M

    Good move, Bob. You’re getting that promotion at last.

  • JasmineAM

    Bob Benson is creepily adorable/super vanilla/creepy.

    • OrigamiRose

      I know, I’m all confused. Suddenly I kind of… am crushing on him. :/

  • Qitkat

    Wow, Bob Benson, who woulda thought.

  • Cheryl

    Please, give us Megan. This is just creepy.

    • Cheryl

      That was fast.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

    Hmm… Joan’s wearing blue and green.

  • P M

    DON’S ISSUES DUN DUN DUN

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    Ew. STOP DON.

  • MilaXX

    really? His dick cannot be that good!

    • PastryGoddess

      apparently it’s dipped in gold and filled with manna

      • formerlyAnon

        There’d be an extra like or 10 for the bacon, but I am restricted to one.

    • JasmineAM

      His dick is apparently a gift personally flown down from mount Olympus by Mercury himself.

  • PastryGoddess

    Bob Benson Superstar.

    The cynical part of me says that since ingratiating himself with the men didn’t work, he’s going to try his brand of charm on Joan.

    • P M

      Yep. That’s what I said too

  • Pennymac

    And, into bed with Megan. ew.

  • alula_auburn

    ooh,the thunder of pathetic fallacy (or should that be PHALLUS-y) yuk yuk yuck.

  • PastryGoddess

    It’s gotten to the point where Don/Sylvia scenes get the mute button

  • tonibaloney

    Wow, I am really hating this episode.

    • Sandra

      I’m glad I’m not the only one…I’m both bored and irritated.

      • alula_auburn

        Hee hee, I’ve been in so many writing groups where people assume “not liking” something is always because it’s omg too provocative. “Irritiating” is never something I’ve aspired to in my writing, particularly.

  • P M

    Cancer dude gets it and sees very clearly what Don is doing.

  • Qitkat

    Good advice, Ted. Shower and walk back in like you own half the place.

  • alula_auburn

    aw, even for Pete, stories about parents with dementia get to me. :(

  • Qitkat

    Is it just me or is this one of the creepier episodes of MM ever?
    Maybe disturbing is a better word.

    • tonibaloney

      Not just you. This is hard to watch.

    • Pennymac

      It’s creepy. Don’s veneer is cracking. Everyone else is seeming relatively normal in comparison.

    • MerBearStare

      I’m concerned Don is going to become a serial killer.

      • Cheryl

        Yes! At least that would be something interesting.

    • http://www.ellenciompi.com/ NurseEllen

      I honestly thought for a minute that he was going to push Sylvia back onto the bed and get ugly with her. He is spiraling down….

  • PowerfulBusiness

    Every time Don and Sylvia are on, I keep thinking of at least 10 other characters I’d rather see their story time devoted to.

  • PastryGoddess

    I can’t believe I feel sorry for Pete.

    Dammit, I need more gin

    • Pennymac

      You must. NO ONE feels sorry for Pete.

      • PastryGoddess

        Never mind..that’s over now

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

      I’m with you on feeling sorry for Pete.

  • Laura Osborne

    I love Don and Sylvia. I may be the only person in the world who does, but I do.

    • PastryGoddess

      Come over here so I can give you the V8 head bop

    • P M

      Doesn’t change that his behaviour towards her is way creepy, or at least issue-y.

      • Cheryl

        This would have been provocative in a mainstream movie in 1968. Here it’s just silly.

        • John Gregor

          It seemed to be veering into “9 1/2 Weeks” territory, which was still fairly racy in ’84.

      • MilaXX

        passed creepy 10 miles back and is now just nasty

        • alula_auburn

          I don’t even find it interesting creepy or nasty, either. The stuff with Bobbie Barrett, maybe, was both creepy and interesting from a characterization standpoint. I don’t feel like this is doing much from a story purpose, besides making me gag.

        • John Gregor

          With memories of the events in Cleveland still pretty fresh, Don’s urges for total control and submission were a little extra creepy.

  • MisScarlett

    I feel like soooo many questions are starting to be answered… God, I love this show.

    • P M

      Such as?

  • Qitkat

    Oh Peggy, what a fantastic outfit!

  • Pennymac

    Go Miss Pegs!

  • Peeve

    Brava, Peggy!

  • alula_auburn

    I like Peggy’s outfit AND yelling at Don. Two for two!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

    Peggy Olson, HBIC. ‘Bout time.

  • OrigamiRose

    Where on earth *is* Dawn??

  • MartyBellerMask

    K. Not watching, can’t til tomorrow. So I will try not to read too many comments. But I will note from the commercial that Ted has definitely changed his wardrobe, and I think the “man in Joan’s life” is Kevin. Also, Burt Peterson appears to be back but I don’t see that as an issue, it was the Brits that fired him.
    Of course, I am ALWAYS WRONG with my predictions.

  • alula_auburn

    okay, SERIOUSLY, “who told you you were allowed to think?” This may be WORSE cheap pseudo-domination than 50 Shades.

  • Qitkat

    Who told you you were allowed to think!

    • formerlyAnon

      Does that come verbatim from a flashback we’ve seen, or one we’re going to see?

      • Qitkat

        I thought Don just said it to Silvia before his plane trip with Ted.

        • formerlyAnon

          I wonder though, if we’re going to hear some voice from Don’s past say it. Maybe it’s just me feeling that the Don story line is getting formulaic.

          • Qitkat

            That is entirely possible. That is something we have seen before, I think.

  • Peeve

    Man, I really hate these two!

  • MilaXX

    Dear Matt Weiner;

    I do not need to see Don having sex with anyone else this season. Doctor Who has pissed me off enough.

    • OrigamiRose

      Co-signed!

      • Pennymac

        Me too!

    • Qitkat

      I so agree!

  • Peeve

    Ruh-ro!

  • MilaXX

    Please don’t kill Ted in a plane crash

    • tonibaloney

      Please kill Don in a plane crash.

    • alula_auburn

      Maybe we’ll just get to see him barf again.

  • JasmineAM

    Don – 1, Ted – 1.
    Ted put those aviators on like a boss.

  • P M

    HAHAHAHAHA – now Don looks sick

  • Peeve

    Good job, Ted. My how the tables have turned!

  • Not applicable

    Round 2. Ted and his airplane.

    • P M

      And he knows it

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    I LOVE TED THE AVIATOR.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

    Omg that cut-scene was HILAR.

  • P M

    Joan sees it quite clearly. Mom is an idiot.

  • Pennymac

    Every good deed is part of Weiners, plan.

  • OrigamiRose

    Pete needs another fall down the stairs.

    • P M

      He needs one every episode.

      • OrigamiRose

        Touche ;)

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

      I dunno. I feel for him, given his past interactions with his mother. Dementia makes people terribly cruel and difficult.

      • Qitkat

        And unfortunately your comment can apply to both the sufferer and the caregiver.

        • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

          It’s true.

      • OrigamiRose

        Very true. :(

    • JasmineAM

      And a punch from Lane’s ghost.

  • nosniveling

    hahaha happy mother’s day Mrs. Campbell

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Oh, you made me laugh out loud – what will my upstairs neighbor think?!

      • formerlyAnon

        That your life is more interesting than they’d suspected?

  • JasmineAM

    Sylvia is basically just a sex slave at this point. Just call her Scheherazade.

    • http://www.ellenciompi.com/ NurseEllen

      It seems this affair will last far fewer than 1,001 nights. She did tell a great story when she told Don about her dream, but, somehow I think that a story which starts with “I dreamed you were dead” is not the kind that will make the hearer come back again and again for more.

    • P M

      Scheherazade was a queen, not a slave.

  • AutumnInNY

    Joanie’s Mom with her rain hat! perfect.

  • P M

    My mother can go to hell. Ted Chaough can fly her there.

    • Not applicable

      And, Pete is back!

  • Damien W

    I missed the first 15 minutes — is this one of those aimless episodes where Matt Weiner lays down a bunch of random character stuff so he can refer to them in a future episode?

    • PastryGoddess

      Yes it is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/judy.julian77 Judy Julian

    Couldn’t really see the title of the book Don had….was it The Last Picture Show?

    • OrigamiRose

      I think so!

      • http://www.facebook.com/megan.kennedy.395 Megan Kennedy

        Yeah, what do people know about this book? Skimmed the Wiki and it just sounds like a pulpy teen romance.

        • OrigamiRose

          I’m embarrassed to admit I haven’t seen the movie to even have had a Cliff Notes idea of the meaning of the book.

        • formerlyAnon

          The film made of it (1970 or ’71) was BIG and critically acclaimed. Teens in a dead-end life in a dying extremely small Texas town. Mostly unaware of the good stuff they have. The protagonist, who’s intermittently sleeping with an older woman, loses the girl he & his buddy both like when she and the buddy leave town. Fun times.

          • Munchkn

            I remember seeing it when it came out. It was filmed in black and white by Peter Bogdanovich and nominated for 8 Oscars, winning two for Ben Johnson and Cloris Leachman for their supporting roles. Jeff Bridges and Ellen Burstyn were also nominated in supporting roles. It’s based on a novel by Larry McMurtry.

          • Lisa_Co

            Also the first movie Cybil Shepard was in.

        • not_Bridget

          Larry McMurtrey wrote it. No, not a pulpy teen romance…

  • MartyBellerMask

    Also, Don’s elevator seems to be a motif along with SCDP’s stairs. But what does it MEAN??

    • EveEve

      So are windows. Maybe Don’s headed for a very long fall via elevator or window …next season…

      • Damien W

        The opening credits will have to come into play at some point — Weiner can’t help himself.

    • not_Bridget

      Didn’t Weiner say that elevator scenes were very cheap to shoot?

      • KateWo

        Yup, they save on set cost. There are inherent metaphors but we shouldn’t read into it too much

  • NDC_IPCentral

    Joan dressing Don down last week, Peggy getting her licks in this week. No wonder Don is trying to dominate Sylvia – he’s losing his mojo in the office, so…. transference and compensation.

    Pete, your world is spiraling out of control, and anger’s no solution.

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    “And you ordered it.” That Johnny Walker commercial just cracks me up. Who came up with that? It’s so hilariously bad and it’s only redemption is Christina Hendricks. You can just hear the copywriter saying “It’s Christina Hendricks, just oozing sex. And then she’s just targeting that at the consumer, who just ordered Johnny Walker. SEX.”

  • PastryGoddess

    That bacon is making me hungry

  • Damien W

    Is he gonna slap her? Is he gonna slap her?

    • PastryGoddess

      Maybe she should slap him instead

  • http://twitter.com/amndad amanda lynn

    hoo damn. velma’s growing balls!

    • Supernumerary

      Oh my god. I knew I recognized the actress, but had no idea where. Thanks for the weird and freaky clarification.

      • http://twitter.com/amndad amanda lynn

        happy to help!

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    Sylvia’s so sanctimoniously annoying.

  • MilaXX

    So did he intentionally drive him away?

  • Damien W

    If this were Friends, it would be called The One Where Every Woman in Don’s Life Leaves Him

    • Logo Girl

      The plane scene felt like something out of a Friends episode. Or maybe Seinfeld.

      • P M

        Seinfeld. Definitely Seinfeld.

        • Logo Girl

          Yeah, you are right. I was waiting for the laugh track. “I like to read on planes” (hahahaha)

        • Logo Girl

          Yes.

  • Pennymac

    Did he treat her that way to save her marriage?

    • P M

      um, No.

    • alula_auburn

      Ugh, as if that plotline wasn’t already gross enough. . .I really, really hope not.

    • not_Bridget

      It almost seemed that way. When a kid is snitching chocolate, have them live of the stuff for a few days. That will cure them. (Hey, it’s cruel; better to just hide the chocolate better.)

    • Supernumerary

      That seems far too altruistic for Don.

  • Not applicable

    Mother whore is rejecting him…

    • PastryGoddess

      boo frickin hoo

  • http://twitter.com/amndad amanda lynn

    “it’s easy to give up something when you’re ashamed”. so glad that sylvia will be done with (i hope i hope), but dang, that’s a great line.

  • Qitkat

    It’s over when I say it’s over! And Silvia’s dream! What a pair. And now Don is begging. Good for Silvia.

  • PastryGoddess

    ooooh good one sylvia make him beg

    Will he take it out on Megan now

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    “It’s easy to give up something when you’re satisfied.” “It’s easy to give up something when you’re ashamed.” THEME OF THE EPISODE

    • Verascity

      I thought the theme was “Sometimes you’re upside down when you think you’re right side up” to be honest.

      • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

        That works too.

  • Cheryl

    I’ve got it. FIRE DON!

  • Qitkat

    What a look on Don’s face!

    • http://twitter.com/amndad amanda lynn

      hysterical.

  • PastryGoddess

    awkward….

  • alula_auburn

    Wow, that literal fade out of Megan’s voice is SUPER heavy handed.

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

      Yeah.

  • Shoestore

    Hey, remember when Don was actually an interesting character?

    Yeah.

    • EveEve

      vaguely

  • P M

    And ….. wow Bobby’s dead

  • Damien W

    “They shot that poor Kennedy boy.” “Mother., that was years ago.” I think that line was the sole reason Weiner gave Pete’s mom dementia.

    • Cheryl

      I had the same reaction in 1968 (and I was 19). I woke up to the news at 6 am, and in my confusion I was thinking that it was JFK.

      • Damien W

        True enough. I hadn’t quite turned 4 when it happened — I can barely remember the Moom landing.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      And if you were sentient back then, that was the involuntary first association that one made.

  • Qitkat

    Ooh the assassination of RFK!

  • NDC_IPCentral

    Jon Hamm can express some truly powerful emotions – power, vulnerability, fear, uncertainty – just with his eyes, the furrow between his brows and his cheekbones.

    Ah, dear, Robert Kennedy’s assassination. That June of 1968…… I remember that.

    • Munchkn

      I remember that, too. I stayed glued to the TV from the time I heard about the shooting through his funeral. Seeing that snippet this evening was enough to make me cry.

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    Pajama and clothes for the last scene

  • PastryGoddess

    That’s an interesting way to do it

  • JasmineAM

    I wonder if they will talk about Kennedy next week?

  • PastryGoddess

    Love the music at the end

    • EveEve

      Reach Out in the Darkness – by Friend and Lover:
      I think it’s so groovy now
      That people are finally getting together
      I think it’s wonderful and how
      That people are finally getting together
      I think it’s so groovy now
      That people are finally getting together
      I think it’s wonderful and how
      That people are finally getting together
      Reach out in the darkness

  • Peeve

    Wow. This show went from one extreme to the other. Wish they’d shown the partners’ reactions to the news.

  • Qitkat

    Did Joanie save Bob Benson’s job?

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

      I think so.

    • P M

      Yep. Remember kids, always make sure to save your boss’s life lol

      • OrigamiRose

        Yes I remember learning that lesson the opposite way in Nine to Five. “I’m no fool, I’ve killed the boss! Do you think they’re not gonna fire me for a thing like that?”

    • MilaXX

      yes and very slyly I might add. They are firing Lawrence instead

      • AutumnInNY

        …and it looks like the other female copywriter if I heard correctly. I liked her, the little we got to see of her.

        • MilaXX

          Yes Margie and she knew it was coming. After they did intros she said, “it was nice knowing” to Stan and the weird guy.

          • AutumnInNY

            Thank you. Too bad about that. I guess MW just wants it to be Peggy and the boys in creative.

          • harlowish

            That’s what I thought she said at first, but I think what she actually said was, “It was nice knowing you, Don” because she was so impressed after meeting Ted.

    • Pennymac

      Yes.

    • PastryGoddess

      My cynical antennae are up and quivering

  • alula_auburn

    Well, this is one I WILL not be watching the rerun of. I’m exhausted. And not in a fun way.

    • Qitkat

      Ditto. Almost bizarre in some respects. If they wanted to shake up the audience, it worked.

  • Pennymac

    No two in a row for me tonight. This episode was as disturbing as last weeks was exciting.

  • PastryGoddess

    Lets hope they tidy up some of these threads in the next episode

    • Pennymac

      How many episodes till the end of the season?

      • PastryGoddess

        Is this episode 4 or 5? so there should be 8 or 9 more episodes I think.

        • OrigamiRose

          This was episode seven out of thirteen :) Title tonight was “Man With a Plan.”

          • PastryGoddess

            Has it really been 7 episodes? Where has the time gone?

            Ok so only 6 more episodes to go then

          • OrigamiRose

            Yes, the season premiere was technically two episodes versus one two-hour episode.

            Love your kitty av!

          • PastryGoddess

            ah ha…thanks :)

            I love this avatar. I keep saying I’m going to change it, but it’s sooo cute

          • OrigamiRose

            It’s super-cute! It gives me a smile every time I see it :)

          • VictoriaDiNardo

            I need new glasses – I thought it was a capuchin monkey! ( cute either way! )

          • PastryGoddess

            I’m obviously drunk as I am still giggling for no reason at this comment.

            Here is the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCvGKVNJn3s

          • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

            To watching Don canoodle his neighbor. They spent too long spinning the wheels with that.

          • C. C. Winslow

            And then Breaking Bad! I hate to wish Mad Men over, but I loooooove BB.

        • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

          There are 6 episodes left this season. This was episode 7.

  • NDC_IPCentral

    I hadn’t seen the beginning of the show – and now I’m seeing that portion in the repeat. Wow, the elevator scene as Don overhears the dispute between Sylvia and Arnie. That puts the Sherry-Netherland segment into much more context.

  • Peeve

    asperine?

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Background from your TLOunge IP attorney – “Aspirin” originally was a Bayer registered trademark, and “Aspirine” would have been a French version.

      • Peeve

        Aha! Thank you! I wondered why no one in the room reacted.

  • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

    Watching again – so Peggy did buy the whole building! Crazy. She’s going to be rolling in the dough as the UWS gentrifies.

    • PastryGoddess

      That’s if she doesn’t kick Abe out and sell the whole thing in disgust

      • VictoriaDiNardo

        Plus she has to fix it up and wait a decade or two…

    • formerlyAnon

      I hope so. But I’m not sure Peggy’s savvy enough not to dump it when (as PastryGoddess said) things go south with Abe and she’s stuck with a property she doesn’t love living in. OTOH, she’s not prone to moving, she settles in and stays.

  • the_archandroid

    Do we have any explanation for Dawn’s absence?

    • PastryGoddess

      I think she was there at some point, but we never saw her

      • Pennymac

        She must have been because Ted asked “The black one or the white one” before his groovy brain storming session.

  • EveEve

    well THAT was a bunch of crap writing. An ovarian cyst plot line just so Bob can get elevated to a love interest? A bunch of trite domination dialog from Don? A harrowing small airplane scene with two partners who dislike each other? yawn… I’d rather just go back to watching soaps if this is the best they can do.

    • Tee

      Ted got even with Don for getting him drunk by scaring the daylights out of him in the plane. That was awesome.

      • EveEve

        Ted got himself drunk. And Don got himself scared.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

      I don’t think that was elevating Bob to a love interest, but a reason for him to keep his job and stick around for whatever Weiner has planned.

      • P M

        Joan has seen him enough in the office that she doesn’t really trust him I suspect. Still, she did save his job. Her mother on the other hand, oh dear….. “A man! You need a man! Here’s one! Take him! Now!”

      • decormaven

        Yes, Bob is a deus ex machina; I’m not sure exactly what he will trigger, but he’s definitely going to be a fulcrum.

        • EveEve

          Seems like deus ex machina is the major plot device for the entire season. Newspaper headlines for 1968 contain plenty of fodder for plot twists without resorting to deus ex machina, (although clearly the writers have decided against relying on them very much so far.) Don’s need for control…his hamartia…has him circling and circling; Peggy told him he needs to move forward and he could not hear her.

    • nosniveling

      that airplane scene caused flashbacks to All My Children

  • PowerfulBusiness

    Things that would have been awesome tonight: a convo longer than 20 seconds between Joan and Peggy. Addressing some of the tension between Peggy and Stan. Having a convo between Don and Peggy last more than 20 seconds. Not having Don turn into a full on sociopath who feels nothing, for nobody, ever. I mean, him and Peggy were friends, and he did have some affection for her. Why is he looking at her like he’s never met her before? I guess b/c he’s not used to her siding with someone besides him, but…sighhhh. He’s a human being, can he at least have one semi-good trait? He used to. He was a mentor. He was a good dad, when he wanted to be, and in comparison to Betty. He was charming. He rallied his troops at work. Now…I don’t get it.

    • P M

      I was near cheering when I saw that exchange “It’s nice to have you back”, wasn’t it?

  • 3boysful

    Did anyone else notice Sylvia said something like “I want/need you and nothing else will do” both on the phone and later in this episode? Wasn’t “nothing else will do” the tagline for a real product? I see Don getting inspired somewhere down the road, while thinking wistfully of Sylvia.

    • EveEve

      OMG! It’s a line from a Heinz ketchup ad! good catch 3boysful

      • AViewer44

        I think it was an ad for margarine.

    • Munchkn

      It does seem like a tagline for something, but, for the life of me, I can’t remember what. It was also the title of a song by Sandy Denny and The Strawbs. Look up the lyrics; they’re pretty interesting.

  • Sylvia

    Hi! I’m Sylvia! Wanna know something groovy? I just learned how to waterskii! I’m getting ready to perform a very dangerous jump…right over a live shark! Don’t worry though, someone just delivered a cool leather jacket for me to wear in a box from Saks. Okay, see ya there!

  • Pennymac

    Wondering if that falling man in the beginning isn’t literal, but more of a “How far the mighty have fallen”, especially after Don’s behaviour tonight.

  • http://www.ellenciompi.com/ NurseEllen

    Did anyone else totally love the Oreo cookie ad which followed the episode? The most creative, fun ad I’ve seen in a long while. If Mad Men inspires like that, its influence is having big ripple effects. Fashion, decor, advertising….

    • OrigamiRose

      Definitely – in fact it’s airing again right now! A nice change from the car ad tie-ins and Christina’s Johnnie Walker strut.

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

      Loved it. So cute.

    • StelledelMare

      That was an amazing commercial. Definitely something different and creative.

  • sarahjane1912

    Haven’t watched it yet — the curse of living in the Middle East! — but am accessing it shortly. Is 7.48am too early for cocktails? ;-)

    • OrigamiRose

      Hell, no! Cheers :)

      • sarahjane1912

        *Clink* I’ll make mine a Bloody Mary then. *GRIN*

        • formerlyAnon

          That’s practically a juice fast!

          • sarahjane1912

            Quite. And that’s what I’m going to call it from now on. ;-)

            ME: No waffles/eggs/pancakes/toast/etc for me: I’m on a juice fast.
            OTHERS [impressed]: Wow. Aren’t you good? How’s it going?
            ME: Fantasssssssssssstically. Cheers. *Clink!*

    • formerlyAnon

      Not as long as you don’t have to operate heavy machinery! Or tend to small and active children without assistance. Just don’t lose enough inhibitions to break things when irritated. This episode seems to have inspired a lot of that among the BKs.

      • sarahjane1912

        Noooo [thankfully!]. And the small/active types in the household are four-footed [and have already had their walk in 32C temp at 7am]. The morning is miiiiiiiiiiiiine! :-)

        • P M

          Ohhh – the memories of the Middle East. I do miss it. Sunrise at 4 AM, the call to prayer, the souqs…… sigh. Enjoy it, some parts of it you *will* miss. I miss the sunshine and the coffee and the friendliness.

          • sarahjane1912

            I love it here. I’m up with the birds, so daily I hear different mosques ‘competing’ with each other for Fajr and then sunrise prayers. Bliss.

            I’m coming up to my sixth Ramadan here [so very used to the form] and summer and its uber-heat is just around the corner [we'll keep our souk visits 'til later in the year now!], but basically, the ME has been a fantastic experience. Friends from all over the world — just not expats — have made the journey even more invigorating, and it’s lovely being [almost] equidistant from my home country [Australia] and Europe [my favourite holiday destination].

            And another nice thing I’ve picked up since being here? Well, it’s been in discovering wonderful blogs like this, where I can sip a cocktail while chatting about one of my fave TV shows, dishing the dirt and [almost] making online friends. Almost makes me feel like I’m part of the outside world!

            Thanks so much for your post. :-)

          • UsedtobeEP

            Sounds funny, but I love music from the MIddle East. Would love to visit there.

          • sarahjane1912

            As you’ve probably already guessed, I’m quite the fan of the ME! And yes, I love the music too. The traditional stuff, well … it’s not often heard when ‘out and about’ but there are some amazing musicians who are writing/performing all sorts of great ME-inspired music which you should check out to get you in the mood. One of my faves to get you started? Dhafer Youssef, a Tunisian who experiments with jazz as well as ‘world’ music. Check him out.

            And yes, do visit the ME when you can. It’s amazing.

    • Peeve

      Never! It’s 5 o’clock somewhere…especially on Mad Men!

    • Cheryl

      Seriously, if you have any Pepto-Bismol in the house, I would have some of that handy, along with an air-sick bag. You’ll thank me later.

      • sarahjane1912

        *Clutches pearls* Advice noted! Cheers!

  • pattycap11

    I loved Roger firing that guy. Everything else was super-depressing.

    • PastryGoddess

      Laugh out loud moment of the night

    • Damien W

      Burt Peterson — the official football of Mad Men!

    • Munchkn

      Did Roger say when referring to the creative team from CGC “Peggy, Beanie and Cecil”? That’s a blast from the past! Btw, I always thought Beanie and Cecil was a dumb cartoon.

      • Cheryl

        Yeah, whoever heard of a sea-sick Sea Serpent?

        • decormaven

          Beany & Cecil was turned into an animated show back in the early 60s. It featured Beany, a boy, and Cecil, the Sea-Sick Sea Serpent. I had a Cecil hand puppet. I remember playing with it out in the yard during JFK’s funeral. My whole house was in mourning and I just wanted to escape.

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com/ The Gifted Collector

        Cartoon? Beany and Cecil were hand puppets first in 1949 on Time for Beany.

      • Sing4yursupper

        I loved Beanie and Cecil and loved Roger’s reference in the episode.

  • AutumnInNY

    Poor Gleason. Looks like he’s going downhill fast. He’s got Don’s number tho. Hope Ted heads his warning.

    • P M

      Oh I believe he’s doing just that. Why else go to him when Don kicked his ass so thoroughly?

  • http://www.facebook.com/candice.booth.79 Candice Booth

    What is so funny is when you complimented Emma Stone on her green and blue dress and I loved the combo. I have now started to wear about 70% of the color combination and people love it although for me it doesn’t mean adultery just kickassery. I think you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/megan.kennedy.395 Megan Kennedy

    Thinking yellow is not only Peggy’s power color, but an Opposition to Don color for everyone. Sylvia’s florals come to mind — especially considering his blue tie in the final elevator scene.

    • P M

      Good catch, that. Never thought of that before. The things the Uncles teach us BKs, eh?

      • http://www.facebook.com/megan.kennedy.395 Megan Kennedy

        Yes! Can’t thank the Uncles enough.

    • eb1966

      Megan is wearing a bright, sunny yellow negligee in the last scene watching the RFK coverage while Don ignores her.

  • Cheryl

    Arnie Rosen was headed to Minnesota — so said that shrew, Sylvia, in the opening scene — presumably to Rochester and the Mayo Clinic. It was renowned for treating heart disease, but I’ll never forget that my best friend’s father flew there (from New York) for treatment in the summer of 1967 and never came back — unexpectedly, he passed away while there. I wonder if Arnie will return, or will Sylvia leave NY and join him there?

    • John Gregor

      Actually, probably to UMN. It was a hotbed of cardiac surgery research back then. Go wiki C. Walton Lillehei.

  • Qitkat

    Is it possible that the ugliness of tonight’s episode, which Jon Hamm just nailed, continues to intensify over the rest of the season, leading from one grim event to another, showing us a man spiraling out of control more than ever, something like Ben Sanderson (Leaving Las Vegas), continuing to spotlight obsession, self-destruction, alcoholism, desperation, Don’s *not give a crap* attitude? Wikipedia mentions Nicholas Cage, talking about his character as a man who once had it all, had a certain elegance, who imploded, who fell apart. That sounds just like Don Draper, doesn’t it? That was one of the most depressing films I’ve ever seen. Critically lauded, I know, but left me sick at heart, as I recall. I’m just starting to feel slightly sick that Weiner is going down this long and winding road, seeing how far he can take things, going as far beyond the ambiguous ending of The Sopranos as he can possibly go, taking the fans on a journey as dark as possible.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not jonesing for a happy ending, all tied up in a neat bow. God forbid. I hope he does continue to take us down some unexpected roads. I just have a feeling that we are going to get hit hard, very hard, with tragedy that may come out of left field for these characters, so many of whom we love, or love to hate, who have been written so very, very well, extraordinary even, wrecking any and all audience expectations, moments of “oh, no, he didn’t,” that he wants to give this incredible show the darkest possible ending anyone has seen on television ever, if he can.

    Or am I suffering from just indigestion, or a cyst on my ovary?

    I’m dreading the next episode.

    • formerlyAnon

      I wouldn’t have predicted it, but another episode like this one and I’ll start to fear that Don, at least, will be portrayed spiraling into a professionally impotent, frustrated shadow of his former self. I might quit watching if it gets too Don-centric and all about his self-destruction playing out. I rarely watch that kind of stuff. If I want pain, I’ll look at real life. I know it’s weak, but I feel strongly that I can watch people behaving badly to each other and being self-destructive in real life – if I could shrug it off or find entertainment in it I’d be in a much grittier version of one of the “helping professions” than the one I’m in.

    • decormaven

      I am hoping some kind of redemption for Don, but there’s going to be some pain in the next few episodes. While I don’t think he’s completely lost his mojo, his standing is much less secure in every area of his life. Somehow I think it will be Peggy who will pull him from the depths, much as he did for her after she had the baby. I was so proud of her for calling him on his BS in this episode. She’s the only one who has the chutzpah to hold the reality mirror to his face.

      • Qitkat

        Yes, our girl Peggy, if anyone can do it. Would love another episode as powerful as the Suitcase between these two.

    • KTBSN

      The only redemption Draper will find is through a tragic ending to someone close to him. I’m looking for either Betty, Sally or Megan to exit this world before the series ends.

  • Maria Gabriella Dutari

    First: I love Ted. Also, I’m glad Sylvia is out!! Maybe more time for other characters that are cool, unlike her. And, I just had two vodka tonics while watching this episode and giggled and clapped with the CuteBob/Joan scenes.

  • Wellworn

    Well, I am probably the only person in the world who hasn’t read 50 Shades of Gray so I am not sure if the show has jumped the shark or not, but Don’s little passive aggressive power play with both Sylvia and Ted left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I see it this way, 50SoG or not: Don saw himself with an opportunity to take advantage of Ted with the drinking. He saw Ted coming into his workplace, all nice and business like, upsetting Don’s status quo, so like a dog peeing on Ted’s new office, he marked his territory with a bottle. When he heard Sylvia yelling at Arnie about Minnesota, he saw another opportunity, knowing that he had so much power over her that it was ruining her marriage, to a guy he actually liked. I thought he had made a decision about her that moment, that it was going to be over, because she was no longer playing hard to get, “let’s not fall in love” etc. So he used her need for him to play out his power issues in that hotel room. Both situations didn’t quite work out for him. I liked the little half grin on Ted’s face when he was piloting the plane. And finally Sylvia came to her senses and dumped him. Weird seeing him plea for her. I don’t remember how he has reacted when being dumped before, but I don’t remember him begging. He was probably just so shocked. Well, I didn’t hate the episode as much as many others, but I could have done without the hotel weirdness. Loved Bob’s resourcefulness at keeping his job and he is so cute. Wondered where Dawn was this episode. I know she was “there” but why didn’t they show her, and just kept showing the empty desk? And I don’t feel sorry for Pete, not one teeny tiny little bit.

  • dryadgirl

    I can’t help it. I know the two aren’t related, but I keep comparing the elevator scenes in Mad Men with the elevator scenes in Mass Effect. Yes, I’m forcing my two fandoms together. Hey, they both debuted in 2007, why not?

  • decormaven

    Late to the party, but that’s what happens when one is getting the Mad Men experience through ITunes Season Pass. Question: what might the significance be of the Sherry Netherland room number 503? That’s the episode number for “Tea Leaves.” Are we to infer that there’s an even more defined distance between the Establishment and the Age of Aquarius? And kudos for picking “Reach Out in the Darkness” by Friend and Lover for the closer. What a great way to use an innocuous song to make such an ironic point! Genius.

  • Laylalola

    Unbelievably awful episode.

  • http://twitter.com/otterbird otterbird

    Put me in the minority of people who like Sylvia. I think she’s the first mistress/girlfriend since Rachel who dumped Don, rather than him dumping her, and she did it because he pushed her too far. I think she’s the first woman in his life who has been his emotional equal, so to speak. Dr. Faye was tough, but he crushed her pretty badly. Rachel was crushed, too. Sylvia, not so much. Sad, but ready to move on.

    And was it only two seasons ago that Ted Chaough was the butt of jokes? Remember outwitting him over the motorcycle? And now he’s the most morally upright guy on the show, other than Henry. When he said he could fly a plane, I almost swooned.

  • VictoriaDiNardo

    Glad I could give you a laugh – in spite of this episode!

    There are NEVER enough cute kitty videos – thanks for the link!

  • http://twitter.com/sarah_aronson sarah aronson

    Every other year, I found Don likeable . . .no just appealing. Now that has changed. I admire the writers who are taking a chance leaving Don completely unlikeable. The back story no longer offers up empathy. His actions distance him from the audience. Further spiraling feels inevitable. I loved the Peggy scene. Love that we are seeing Ted in a new way.

  • http://howtofaint.tumblr.com/ How to Faint

    Oh my god! I’ve been dreaming of a Mad Men T-lounge forever and it finally happened and I MISSED IT!

  • eb1966

    The red dress Don buys Sylvia = old fashioned 1950s glamour, our of date in contrast to Megan’s hippie-dippie shirt and pants combo.