RuPaul’s Drag Race: Let’s Have a Kiki

Posted on April 15, 2014

 

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We don’t want to get into this too much because we feel bad saying it, but LOGO tends to disappoint us as the only real attempt at gay-specific cable marketing and programming. It’s frustrating, because you can see how the channel could be so much more than it is. And we feel like the solution is right in front of them.

 

 

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Just hand over everything to the producers of this show, because they routinely toss out random ideas for gay-friendly TV programs we’d watch in a HOT SECOND.

WHO THE HELL WOULDN’T WATCH HUNG MAN OR THE SNATCH GAME EVERY SINGLE NIGHT OF THE WEEK?

Right? It’s not just us?

 

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Eleganza.

Her face was tight and outta sight last night. Best makeup job she’s sported all season.

 

 

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How is it this woman is in her eighties?

Having seen Chaz grow up in the spotlight, we can say we’ve never seen him as comfortable and at ease as he is now. Prior to his coming out as transgender, he was clearly someone uncomfortable in his own skin. It’s why he makes such a good spokesperson, because anyone over a certain age can remember how hard he had it for a really long time.

 
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We really never get a chance to say something like this about the judges on this show (except for Ru), but we kinda love her top. In fact, we were a little distracted by it.

She was also more lucid than we would have figured.

The talk show challenge is always among the most awkward of any season. Let’s just cringe our way through it.

 

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Oh god. Painful. This is exactly the wrong kind of challenge for her because she can’t wing it on charm. She has to engage people and she gets all kinds of weird and nervous and in her own head.

 

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It really didn’t help that she wore the absolute worst look she’s ever sported on the catwalk. The only thing we’ll say in praise of her was her ready acceptance that she fucked it up this week. No equivocating. She’s a queen who owns her shit.

 

 

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This was shocking to us, although we suppose the main issue came down to pacing on her part. She never asked Georgia once question, but she seemed to think she had more time. Either way, she was disappointingly awkward when we would have figured she’d be right on top of things.

 

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Loved the catwalk look, but the shape of this dress makes her look awfully bottom heavy. We’ve noticed that in more than one of her looks and we’re kind of surprised someone like Michelle or Santino hasn’t called her out for it by now.

 

 

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Sorry to keep using this word but… awkward. And unmemorable, because we can’t think of one other thing to say about it.

 

 

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The dress is kind of ingenious in that it’s an elephant’s face but it’s not obvious about it. The problem is, it’s not at all a flattering dress for her and it looks kind of cheap. Still, it’s nice to see her in something other than a sequined cocktail dress.

 

 

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Honestly? We thought she was sweet but came off pretty nervous. We felt like the judges overpraised her a bit; probably because there was one other queen who was so far ahead of everyone else, they didn’t want to seem like they were playing favorites.

 

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Credit where it’s due: this was a really creative look and she sold the hell out of it. Respect. We would have pegged her for coming out in a middle aged cat-lady outfit.

 

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Aw, we kind of feel bad for Joslyn. Yes, the abortion question was hilariously wrong, as was the whole focus on vaginas, but she was so genuinely appalled to hear she stepped over a line. She’s definitely got “sashay” written all over her at this point, but we love how hard she’s trying.

 

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But Jesus take the wheel, her catwalk getups keep getting worse. If she doesn’t turn this shit out next week, she’s going home. No way are the judges going to stand for another mediocre to bad runway look.

 

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To be honest, we didn’t like Courtney’s talk show look…

 

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… and we didn’t like her makeup in this look. But we’re nitpicking, because both her talk show performance and her catwalk look were stellar this week; far and away the clear winner. Times like these are when her brief brush with stardom come in handy. She’s probably been on enough talk shows to know how to fake her way through the scenario. Having said that, we wouldn’t complain if Logo added The Courtney Act Show to their lineup, along with Hung Man and Snatch Game. See? A whole block of cheap programming. You do enough of that, Logo, and we won’t have to suffer through so many painfully earnest HIV med commercials.

Yes, that was shady as hell.

 

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She looked great, but she was exactly as awful as anyone with a central nervous system could have predicted.

 

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But she had one of the best looks on the catwalk, we’ll give her that.

 

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When it was announced that she and Adore would be facing off for the lip synch, no one in the room, not least Trinity herself, really believed Trinity had a shot. There’s a story being told about Adore and Ru’s clearly not done with her yet.

 

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It’s a bit of a shame, because Trinity did give the better lip synch, but she’s always going to give the better lip synch. It’s the one thing she does better than anybody there and it’s kept her in the game this long. Her story here is done. She’s leaving proud of herself and with tighter focus on her career and her abilities. It’s a win for her and she left with her head high. That’s the way to do it.

 

 

 

 

[Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

    • Glam Dixie

      “Too many queens from this show have tried to sing. So don’t put out an album.”
      “You’re a shady elephant.”
      I love you, Bianca.
      I hated to see Trinity go, but I would have hated to see Adore go even more, a very classy exit for a very sweet and classy queen.
      Chaz Bono is a bit of a humorless ass, isn’t he? Don’t take yourself so seriously, dude, and don’t give one word answers to interview questions.
      You were 50% of the reason why the interviews were so shitty.

      • RussellH88

        I thought the same thing. Chaz just seems kinda awkward and I think that attributed to most of the issues with the interviews because it just seems like he didn’t want to be there.

        • rage_on_the_page

          Yeah, neither of them seemed very open to any kind of give-and-take, unless that was the editing.

        • Eric Stott

          Chaz looks better than usual- a little weight loss and some better grooming.

          • PeaceBang

            We’re not here to evaluate how good Chaz Bono looks.

            • Eric Stott

              ?
              Like we’re here to have a meaningful impact on the selection process of the Next Drag Superstar?

            • Zaftiguana

              I had a hotel room kiki with Ornacia, and she confided in me that very week, Ru gets in a time machine to travel into the future and begin a comprehensive tallying of internet comments about the contestants from the previous episode. These are then tabulated into a final score through the use of an elaborate algorithm and factored into her decision making along with the challenges and runways looks. Trufax.

            • Eric Stott

              But the final decision is hers alone.

            • fiddlecub

              I didn’t know there was a committee decreeing that we couldn’t talk about the guest hosts. Given the nature of this blog, I think we’re here to evaluate anything we notice. It doesn’t stop us from talking about Hot Ginger Handler instead of Lady Gaga, and it certainly doesn’t stop T&L from talking about the hosts each and every week–including, as you’ll notice, in this very blog entry.

            • PeaceBang

              No committee, just one BK’s sense of discomfort that so many feel it’s appropriate to discuss Chaz’s psychological and physical presentation, and particularly his relative manliness. I meant it as a general “room comment” but had to put it somewhere, hence following your comment. Things got more inappropriately evaluative after you posted; I should have registered my opinion later in the thread. My bad.

            • largishbearishAtlish

              Think we could get Hot Ginger Handler as a guest judge for the Drag Race? (or is that sewing/runway show desperate enough for him as a guest judge?) oooohhhh….

            • AnotherG

              Judge? Put him on the Pit Crew, please.

      • Kristina Sadowski

        Yeah, I felt he was waaay too serious for a drag show interview setting. It didn’t feel as fun as it could’ve been; it just highlighted the awkward and forced interview amateurs to fumble even more.

      • VicD

        Chaz came off exactly like a guy who is borderline homophobic around gay men and drag queens. Which is bizarre, because that simply cannot be true. But his monosyllabic answers and limited interaction in the judging was very “real man,” which comes across as an affectation. Having rendered that criticism though, that is the THE BEST he has every looked.

        • MK03

          He really didn’t seem to want to be there. I can understand maybe wanting to forge his own identity separate from his mother’s career, but come on, dude. You’re drag royalty whether you want to be or not.

        • JimMcC

          Do you think that was part of the task for him, though? I felt like there was a producer in his ear saying, “Don’t make it easy.” And that made him react more like, “Ask a dumb question, get a dumb answer.” I don’t know–I didn’t mind it.

          • Eric Stott

            True – the interview segments are generally planned to throw the girls off guard.

          • Glam Dixie

            But even during the judging he seemed to be taking it all way too seriously. Nothing on this show is ever played for seriousness, it’s always played for camp and humor.

            • Eric Stott

              and bitchiness

            • Brent Wolgamott

              Agreed. With so many bad interviews, I would think the editors would go OUT OF THER WAY to show positive stuff, if there was something there for them to show. I mean, you don’t want 5 shit-tastic interviews for the challenge if you can avoid it. It doesn’t make for a good show, and it doesn’t leave the TV viewer engaged I really think Chaz just seemed like he didn’t want to be there. Even in the judging, he was way harsh. Dude, it’s not Olympics figure skating — you don’t have to be so serious. You’re Cher’s son on a drag show. Lighten the frack up!!

            • largishbearishAtlish

              but maybe as a Straight Guy you get tired of hearing from ALL THE GAY MEN you are Cher’s Son?

            • Brent Wolgamott

              There are many things you can call Chaz Bono, but a “Straight Guy” (capitalized) is something that I personally cannot accept. LOL He still has a vagina, and was a lesbian until 2009. I’m sure he’s pretty used to hearing from his gay peers that he’s Cher’s son.

            • Bexxx

              His genitalia doesn’t have anything to do with it. Then again, being a straight guy doesn’t have anything to do with being Cher’s kid either- even if you’re the campiest, idol-worshipperiest drag queen ever, it’s GOT to get tired eventually.

            • Nathan

              He called himself a lesbian until 2009 because he wasn’t ready to call himself a man. Regardless of his body, in his brain he’s been a straight man all his life.

            • Raspberry2012

              I respectfully disagree. He is now a transgendered man and he’s sexually attracted to women. That would make him a straight man in my book.

            • fiddlecub

              He’s a straight guy, whether someone accepts that label or not. Gender is not determined by genitalia, and sexual orientation is distinct from gender.

            • DonnaL

              It doesn’t matter whether you can “accept” him as a straight guy or not. His genitals don’t determine his gender, and he’s made it clear that he never was comfortable identifying as a lesbian.

              In other words, that was a very disappointingly transphobic comment, given how much this place has improved in that regard over the years — there was never a problem with Tom and Lorenzo, but the commentariat was rather notorious for its cluelessness about trans issues. Will you be commenting on every trans person’s genital status every time they’re mentioned here?

            • Brent Wolgamott

              No, Donna. I’ll only be commenting on your genital status. #facepalm Look if you want to pillory me, go right ahead. I just don’t understand how you can be a lesbian for the major bulk of your life, spend time with a woman, have sex with a woman, be an active OUT LESBIAN until 2009, and then actively decide to undergo gender reassignment, but you still have your lady parts — so now because you’ve decreed it, and you’re still sleeping with women, you somewhere along the way became a “straight guy”. I guess you’re asking me to accept (as trans issues go) that when Chaz decided to say “I’m not a girl anymore, momma…I’m a man…” that he went from being an out lesbian to a “straight guy”….in a matter of minutes? Cause you’re saying it’s not about the physical (something I still have issues with). So it can’t be about his “transformation”. He had to be when he decreed it, yes? Because it has to be one or the other.

              Lastly, I am still a bit lost on how genitalia is NOT related to gender? It isn’t? So the fact that I have a dick doesn’t mean I’m a guy? What about my XY chromosomes? None of that matters? So gender is something we get to pick? Like out of a Cracker Jack box? I kid, of course, but you see my issues with this? I’m just….lost…on I grew up my whole life, going through classes, learning about gender in animals, and people. But you’re saying all the stuff I learned doesn’t mean squat. Because this is 2014, and apparently we all get to be whatever….

              Lastly, I take offense to the “transphobic” connotation. I might be trans-ignorant. But I’m not transphobic.

            • J. Preposterice

              If you’re trans-ignorant, you need to educate yourself, because you are spouting some hardcore transphobic nonsense right now.

            • Matthew

              How could anyone get tired of being related to Cher?

      • hellkell

        I thought Chaz and Georgia were deeply unpleasant in the interviews.

      • ScarlettHarlot

        Shady elephant is my new favorite phrase!

        • largishbearishAtlish

          I like her look the more I see, and think, about it…

      • VivianAdvanced

        The shady elephant’s elephant dress could have been spectacular had it been in the hands of a more skilled queen. As it was, it looked more like a home economics class project with cheap fabric.

        I thought maybe the interviewees were instructed to allow the queens to get as much out of them as they could to see who excelled at the challenge, but yeah, Chaz didn’t offer much. You could be right. Maybe it was more his fault than theirs.

        • J. Preposterice

          right? like what was that, the cheapest possible polyester jersey? that’s a dress crying out for something more substantial.

      • Zaftiguana

        Well, not every talk show guest is a sparkling conversationalist. The criteria for them being on is just that they’ve done something noteworthy. Bringing out the best in them is the host’s job.

        What I really DID think was shady, though, was that he didn’t correct Trinity about his name. If not the first time she fucked it up maybe, I don’t know, the seventh or eighth? Come on now, Chad!

        • hellkell

          I know! if someone’s continually fucking up my name, I’m not shy about correcting them.

          • Linderella

            Right? My name’s not uncommon, but the spelling of it is. So when I give my name to someone (barista, take out, whatever), I say it then spell it, just so they know. It’s not rude to correct someone regarding one’s name.

        • LongAl

          Part of me thinks ‘It’s Chaz Bono, how do you not know his name, I’m not going to correct you!’, the other part of me thinks ‘For God’s sake that’s the only major reason Trinity ended up in the bottom seriously throw the dog a bone!’ but eeeenh.

          • Zaftiguana

            There is that. Being a drag queen who doesn’t know Chaz Bono’s name without being told even BEFORE you’ve planned out an interview with him is really a Gia Gunn level boner.

          • jtabz

            I don’t think it’s the only reason, unfortunately. I was shocked when Trinity was in the bottom 2, but after rewatching her interview, I was reminded that the rest of it was pretty bad, too. (Boxers or briefs? Which starlet would you rather sleep with: A, B, or some other one?) Her research didn’t come through at all. I could see how what looked like Trinity’s overall lack of preparation for the interview could have ranked it lower than Jocelyn’s, which was (epically) tone-deaf but suggested she had done her homework.

            I still don’t get how Trinity’s fantastic runway didn’t save her, though. That was some glorious animal kingdom glamor. And I was sad to see her go.

      • MilaXX

        I agree on the humorless bit. Even when he did Dancing with the Stars he took himself way too seriously.

    • RussellH88

      I honestly thought Joslyn would be going home, but I think her apology and the fact that apparently the abortion aspect is something that is part of the documentary that both Chaz and Georgia are in.

      Trinity needed to go. She had her moment of realization, but I don’t think she’s that great at performing beyond lip syncing (Though I will say that she’s far more intelligent than I expected her to be).

      Darienne is a nasty bitch and I’m ready for her to get called out on it. She just seems like a bitter queen (Like the second coming of Delta Work)

      • Bexxx

        Delta and Darienne even look alike in drag.

        • Eric Stott

          She’s sort of like a stealth Delta…much less obvious.

      • Stella Zawistowski

        Joslyn better thank her lucky gay stars that Ru picks a bottom two and not a bottom three.

        • Eric Stott

          It was instructive to see her costume rack…..seemed to be nothing but tiny tacky dresses. Tim Gunn would be advising Joslyn about Taste Issues by now.

          • Guest

            And she didn’t even WEAR any of the tiny tacky dresses until…she had to be a TALK SHOW HOST.

            Mostly she’s worn a lot of tinier tackier trim. Joslyn, dear, trim is called trim because it adorns something else. Like CLOTHES.

            • Eric Stott

              I thought her runway outfit was a slight improvement…until she whipped most of it off.
              I like her, but she’s much cuter as a boy. Loved how on Untucked she turned the whole gaffe about the interview into a joke “They’ll go tell Cher Joslyn Fox is an A**hole!”

        • Rebecca Baker

          I was shocked Joslyn wasn’t in the bottom two. Don’t get me wrong, I love her and I’m glad she’s still around but her performance last night was especially bad.

          I do like that she tried to make the exact same joke as Alaska did last season (about Chaz coming out of Cher’s vagina) but did not deliver it nearly as well. As my friend said, Joslyn nailed it like a blind carpenter.

      • StillGary

        I don’t really see them alike — Yeah, Delt could be a little mean but the whole Heathers and Buggers thing was mostly a goof (although yeah, we’re not all sure if Delta knew that — she was happy to be in the in-crowd). Darienne is a baddie, but in my book Shangela was the meanest of the mean.

    • VioletFem

      I was surprised to see Joslyn was safe (if only by a hair) and that Adore ended up in the bottom two. However, upon reflection, I can understand why they chose Adore. While they both did terribly, Adore was clearly ill prepared, which is something she has been warned about repeatedly in the competition. It didn’t look like she did much research and she didn’t even have any notes with her to remind her of her questions during the interview. Joslyn, clearly did do some research but unfortunately made some tasteless jokes and picked terrible questions. Ultimately, I think the judges found that Adore’s lack of polish and familiarity with her guest was a greater sin than Joslyn’s poor judgement in what topics to cover for the interview. Of course, the greatest sin of all was not remembering the guest’s name in the first place. Honestly, if it hadn’t been for that, then Trinity would have been safe this week. I was sad to see Trinity go after she had finally started to become more confident in herself, but like she said, this is only the beginning for her. I can’t wait to see how she leverages her new found fame and self-confidence.

      • Jade Wombat

        Adore was so badly prepared that I don’t think she’d ever heard of the Great Depression.

        • Pinwiz

          Party.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

            I always thought that era was such a party. Why else was it called “Great,” hm?

      • Jeremy Thomas Porta

        I think they put Adore in the bottom to shake her up and because they wanted to get rid of Trinity. It’s hard to tell from the editing, but Adore and Trinity seemed like a very close match, and put together they were bringing it. (Sidenote, that was one of my favorite lipsyncs in the history of the show and to such a mediocre song, too.) If they had paired Joslyn and Trinity, however, I doubt there is enough editing they could have done to justify keeping Joslyn around.

        • J. Preposterice

          I think Trinity & Adore should do a tour together. They played off one another fantastically during the lipsync!

    • VioletFem

      Based on the interview alone, this week’s winner was a toss up between Courtney and Ben de la Creme, but Courtney’s jaw dropping runway look clearly tipped the win in her favor. Although, I also appreciate Ben’s creative runway look as well. I think his performance this week more than makes up for last two episode in which he stumbled.

      • largishbearishAtlish

        there are people a Sci/Fi Cons that would KILL for that outfit. There should be an online instruction video of how to construct that sucker. Please tell, was that a ‘brought in from home’ or ‘made backstage’? Are the queen allowed ‘X’ number of from homes and X number have to be made or? A queen with a trunk full of miracles would have a HUGE lead on this show. (or is there a bunch of back stages fairie/seamstresses cranking out looks or?) the precision on those wings… (but the chest/tit plate was a wee bit much…

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

          There’s plenty of tutorials online for making your own set of retractable wings. Any number of the keywords will get you info: folding, retractable, wings, cosplay, costume.

        • Eric Stott

          I vote for brought from home – or likely ordered online.

        • Brent Wolgamott

          I believe the show’s producers give the queens a list of “possible runway looks/challenge looks” a month before the show starts, and a list of all the songs that could be up for LSFYL. Probably like 25 looks, with 10-14 of them to be used on the show, so the queens don’t know which ones are coming for sure. When they get there, the songs and the order for the LSFYL are given to them, so they can prepare, and when the challenge is announced, Ru tells them what they’ll be wearing on the runway (or another producer does). So it’s not like these queens just randomly brought in those clothes. I’m sure on the pre-show list was “animal-related runway eleganza”. ;-)

          • MilaXX

            In previous seasons they would show them listening to music in case they ended up having to LSFYL.

            • Brent Wolgamott

              Of course. They give them the 20-30 possible LSFYL songs way ahead of time, but even if you’ve had the music for a month, you’ll still want to “refresh” yourself if you think it’s likely you’ll be in the bottom 2. You’re never going to go out there “cold”. It’s like this: 21-30 days before the tapings start, they say:
              1) Here are the 25 songs you need to know how to LSFYL to, and
              2) Here are RuPaul songs that may be used in challenges/mini-challenges that you may need to lipsync to.
              3) Here are the possible runway/challenge looks you MAY need to prepare for…
              Then, upon arriving, they give the queens which LSFYL songs will be used, and what order they’ll be in.

              Again, if you now you’re likely in the bottom 2, you’ll want to grab a iPod real quick and listen a few times. Remember, the producers WANT the LSFYL’s to be fabulous — so they hep them all they can.

        • StillGary

          I would love to know who constructed or designed their own runway looks. Trinity made hers I bet — all three were so creative!

          • Kent Roby

            Bianca, of course, makes all of her looks….she could have done this week’s while sleep-sewing on Ambian!

        • understateddiva

          I preferred Dela’s because it was creative and interesting, and appeared to be handmade. Courtney’s and Trinity’s (to a lesser extent) looked quite expensive. I always think it’s interesting to look at the first season and see how much more money goes into the latter seasons’ looks.

          • largishbearishAtlish

            and remember when the prize money was $49.92 or something? now its $100,000 (and the untucked lounge is now sponsored by (I think?) lumber liquidators vs yet another brand of vodka)

          • Nathan

            A couple of Nina and Bebe’s looks were on the level of later seasons, but I agree that overall everything was much lower budget. I wouldn’t be surprised if the queens had more of a limit on how much they could bring back then too.

            • girlsaturday

              Oooooh, Shannel is going to be PISSED that you forgot how expensive her outfits were!

          • girlsaturday

            It’s just as likely that Trinity’s was handmade too though – she mentioned that she had made her RuPaul gown herself.

            • understateddiva

              ah, very impressive!

        • Enferdame

          Dela brought that from home. She’s tweeted about who made it (IIRC, it’s the same person who has worked with Jinkx as well). I’ve also seen footage of Dela wearing in an Atomic Bombshells show.

          • Raspberry2012

            No, you were right – J. Von Stratton, who is Jinkx’s designer too, made that costume for DeLa. But I think DeLa made the headpiece herself.

    • http://recapscallion.blogspot.com/ Claire

      What is it about Paula Abdul songs that makes these queens want to turn the lip-sync into a kai kai? Adore and Trinity were giving Raja and Carmen a run for their money!

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

        It may be the junior high schooler in me, but Paula was the absolute shit in the day. That means, forever sexually charged.

      • http://www.lifeinspice.com/ rose88

        I guess it’s for the best that Miss Paula’s Cold Hearted Snake didn’t bring out the same instincts in Coco and Alyssa!

        • e jerry powell

          Oh, gurl, I’d have had to vomit.

      • PeaceBang

        Did you see the look on Ru’s face? She was all like “dang, that’s hot.”

    • KingCrazy

      What? I don’t think DeLa seemed nervous during the interview at all. I think him and Courtney both did well, but I actually thought DeLa deserved the win over Courtney.

      I felt bad for Joslyn. She’s grown on me and I like her a lot, but her time to go home is upon us.

      I also disagree about Trinity giving the better lip synch this time around. Adore was just as good as Trinity.

      Love Bianca. I can’t see anyone else winning.

      • xay

        I agree. I thought Ben was much more relaxed and friendly during her interview while Courtney still seemed to be performing, if that makes any sense. I also liked Ben’s bug realness more than Courtney’s Victoria Secret costume.

        • Paigealicious

          Funnily, it wasn’t until Ben wore an ACTUAL costume that Michelle said she finally saw the *real* DeLa.

          • MK03

            Because Michelle is full of shit.

            • RussellH88

              I wish Dela would just say “Well Ru does get to know me off the runway and she’s the one who decides who wins so who cares what you want?”

            • MK03

              And that she would say it in her character voice.

            • Kent Roby

              Which is the voice of Varla Merman

            • Paigealicious

              So true.

            • understateddiva

              One of these days she’s gonna say “I would wear that!” and our worlds will all collide.

          • Linderella

            But that wasn’t a contradiction. DeLa, once out of her DeLa Costume, did not act like the same old character (accent on the old), but rather acted like her true self. I totally got Michelle’s response.

            • Paigealicious

              I guess. I’ve been pretty much over Michelle Visage since she joined the judging panel.

            • Linderella

              Well, she’s no Merle, but she’s grown on me over time.

            • Zaftiguana

              Word. Sometimes the critiques are just random personal stuff that she confuses with being good empirical criticism (no one cares that you don’t like green, girl!), but all in all, I feel like since she calmed down and stopped going the Soundbite Hungry Duchess Kors route, she really does give a lot of good feedback. And she clearly really gives a shit, which counts for a lot.

            • MK03

              She’s also wildly inconsistent with it. She hates green when Ben or Madame LaQueer wear it, but she loves it when Darienne wears it. She thinks Chad is “too polished” and she needs to see “The Real You” from her or Bendela, but doesn’t have a problem with Courtney’s plasticky veneer. Gurl, pick a position and stick with it!

            • Raspberry2012

              This exactly. For the most part, I like Michelle, but she’s so totally inconsistent in some of her critiques. This bullshit thing she has against green – really, girl? You’re going to tear apart an otherwise great runway look just because it’s in your least favorite color? And the “vulnerability” critique – in a drag competition. Ridiculous!

              I think the one thing that really got under my skin about Michelle this season was in the Color Evolution challenge when she bitched about Adore and Laganja playing the commercial as bullies. Now, if you know Michelle’s background a bit, she is vehemently anti-bullying, and I applaud her for that. But you can’t come down on two contestants for playing the part of bullies when your show CAST them in their commercial as “mean girls”! What the hell does she think “mean girls” are? They didn’t get to pick their theme – it was assigned to them! The fact that she got borderline argumentative about that during judging actually pissed me off for a moment. Like, “Hold on, are you actually arguing about penalizing them for playing a role that RU cast them in?” I don’t have any real huge issues with her, but sometimes she just irritates the hell out of me with her inconsistencies.

            • demidaemon

              No, she still hated it when Darienne wore it. It just was said with more snarkiness than outright distaste, but you could tell she still didn’t approve.

            • AnotherG

              “Soundbite Hungry Duchess Kors”

              If you’d managed to work in “boobs” (obvious) or “tacky” (implied?), I’d have needed to take off a week from work. As it is, I’m calling in sick tomorrow.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

          Same here. I thought the win was DeLa’s. I was unimpressed with Courtney’s runway, but maybe I’ve been to too many anime conventions… more than ten years ago. Anyway, take away those wings, and what was Courtney wearing? Not much at all, and looking too manly again.

        • Eric Stott

          Courtney’s costume was great, but like the Klaus Nomi outfit last week it looked as if she’d gotten it from a costume warehouse. If she made any part of either of them herself, then I’ll applaud.

          • Jeremy Thomas Porta

            Well, to be fair, it’s not as if Rupaul sews her own dresses.

            • Eric Stott

              True- VERY true…but I doubt that she buys any of them off the rack. Maybe I’m wrong about where Courtney got her stuff, but I’m still loosing interest in her. She’s got some glamour, but in her way she’s as narrow in her range of looks as Jocelyn. I think her best look was Good Penny.

            • Jeremy Thomas Porta

              Oh I agree completely. If someone is a talented costume designer and seamstress, then bravo, that’s impressive on its own, but this isn’t Project Runway so I don’t think it should be a primary criterion.

      • VicD

        Yes, I thought DeLa had it as well, but Ru does like to spread the love around. Shocked the Bianca didn’t do well, but I agree – she going to be the WINNAH.

      • Zaftiguana

        I also preferred Adore. She had just as much fierce energy, but she was a lot more fun. I mean, Trinity is killer, but her lip synch is very “I’m a real, sensual woman.” That’s fabulous (for real!) but also a bit one note the third time around. Adore was giving me everything.

      • somebody blonde

        I think DeLa was better too, but I also think they didn’t want her to have 3 wins.

    • OhSayNow

      There is something about Courtney that just doesn’t click for me, I feel like I should like her…but I just don’t, really. Her talk show performance was definitely one of the top, but just felt a bit flat to me. Her, ‘I saw a rainbow while sitting in the gutter because I was sad at being so famous’ moment on Untucked felt weird and fabricated/exaggerated to me. But, perhaps some of that is editing as the other queens seemed genuinely moved.

      • RussellH88

        I think she just seems kind of removed from the competition. It’s like she’s running on autopilot.

        • understateddiva

          yes exactly! She’s already famous so the stakes are low.

      • http://recapscallion.blogspot.com/ Claire

        I loved Courtney’s story because it was so in the spirit of Drag Race in that it poked fun at the reality TV trope of a contestant sharing a story about overcoming hardship in such an over the top way that it kind of came back around to being sincere. Like I don’t doubt that Courtney probably had a moment where she was getting bogged down and stuff and had to give herself a pep talk, but once she said there was a rainbow I just started laughing so hard.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

        Hot people have problems. They are just like us, but with more rainbows.

      • MilaXX

        I’m going to sound like Michelle Visage here, but she’s too polished. Nothing comes across as genuine.

        • Airkisses

          At first, I thought she was a Ringer, like Willam (with whom she
          appears in many YouTube vids). The editing didn’t seem to linger on her
          that much in the beginning, so I thought she was just in it for exposure
          and would be gone once she got her name out.

          All that aside, I
          like her less and less every episode. She seems VERY full of herself,
          convinced that she’s the best thing that ever happened to drag. Most of
          her confessionals are about how great and pretty and talented she is.
          She comes out in these nothing-outfits even though her body reads “boy.”
          And I hated how condescending she was towards Joselyn. If I were trying
          to gain a new American audience, I’d try my best to be friendly and
          relatable, rather than arrogant like she comes off now.

          • MK03

            She is really toeing the line of “drag is about passing and fooling straight guys.” Sorry, but that is NOT all there is to drag. I don’t especially give a shit if you can trick a straight guy into going home with you. Some of the fiercest queens, right up to Ru herself, don’t pass as women. I am much more interested in talent, wit and the ability to put together a fierce look.

      • girlsaturday

        Given how edited to death Untucked is, and how she didn’t mention any specific fame things while she was telling that story – I’m not sure that it wasn’t related to something else. They seem to be giving Courtney a certain edit, and they may have edited out what the story was really about in order to remove any real poignancy that would conflict with the image the producers seems to want from her. Just my guess, but it seems like the other queens were kinda moved by it so I suspect the real story was a bit different than what we saw.

        • Kent Roby

          I don’t know; I would expect a reality show to edit anything out EXCEPT poignancy.

          • J. Preposterice

            It depends. Courtney’s edits are…hm. Like, I think she gets decontextualized a lot, somehow, because the other queens often seem to be reacting a bit differently than I’d expect from what is shown. Not always — I mean, I think she is pretty full of herself and can be shaaaaaady! — but enough that I suspect she’s being edited to be a hard bitch in a way she’s really not.

            • Kent Roby

              Kinda scary, but in light of what she had said earlier in the season about attracting straight men, I was wondering if her story was going to have her in the gutter on tour (as she said) AFTER being roughed up by a guy.

      • VioletFem

        The RPDR winners I’ve liked the most are the ones who, in addition to being extremely talented, also had to struggle a little bit to win. Somehow in seems more deserved that way. Courtney, has sort of sailed through some of the challenges are landed squarely in the middle of the pack, without really having to push herself.

        • Cambel

          Then again, I got really sick of American Idol because it seemed to be less about talent after a while and more about whatever invented backstory that somebody had. If you could invent a sob story you could win. i.e. I didn’t care what Roxxxy’s past was the other season, she was still a bitch. I don’t care if Courtney has had to struggle or not, if she is good she is good. I happen to think Bianca’s better, but Michelle Visage’s B.S. of “We have to know you” I think is weird. If she wants to get to know the queens, take them out to dinner.

          Your point about Courtney sailing is on point, she doesn’t seem to be pushing herself. Then again, maybe she is and is less of a drama queen than say, Laganga. All in all, she is the only one that has me confused so far.

          • Kent Roby

            I’m with you; I stopped watching AI when they featured contestants sleeping in cars while being recovering alcoholic single moms with 18 children; it seemed to be a huge handicap to make it on the show if you were super-talented but without the drama-filled back story. I actually found it ironic that the twist on “The Voice” was that the judges had their backs to the singers, since I had long since turned my back on Idol.

          • VioletFem

            When I say struggle, I mean, during the competition. I want to see that the winner didn’t just breeze through the challenge but actually push themselves beyond their comfort zone. I’m not interested in a sob story and frankly find it very manipulative when producers try to spend to much time focusing on sentimental backstories. Still, I like Courtney and her lack of fabricated drama, she’s just not my pick for winning (that would be Bianca or Ben de la Creme).

      • Zaftiguana

        As absofuckinglutely ridiculous as that was, I try to cut these reality bitches a little slack on that front because the producers really do sort of twist their arms to get an inspiring hard luck story out of them. I mean, maybe Courtney really does go around talking unprovoked about how famousness gave her a sad but and no one but her personal rainbow knows that troubles she’s seen, I don’t know. But she also really might not. This show doesn’t quite achieve The Voice levels of epic formulaic douchery in this regard, probably because it takes itself a lot less seriously, but it’s right up there.

      • Kent Roby

        I bet that Courtney has always been “the Pretty One”/ “the Talented One” back home; she likely has problems being critiqued for “relying on ‘pretty’” now. I, personally, was devastated the first time that I got a “relying on pretty” comment!

        • AnotherG

          Sigh. I’m still waiting.

          • Kent Roby

            It’s a horrible cross to bear, but it taught me to rely on my considerable talent and intellect. And modesty, of course.

      • Raspberry2012

        She really got the winner’s edit pre-season, but since the show started, she’s been fairly underwhelming in my book. I would have given DeLa her third win, too.

    • NinjaCate

      The second I saw she was up against Adore, I knew she was going home. There’s no way Adore ISN’T going to be in the finale. CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT: I’m almost certain that now things are coming down to the wire, Ru is aggressively thinning her herd, and putting TKB against Adore was a specific more to get the former out of the competition. Which surprises me, because I thought Joslyn was a lock for bottom two, with Adore remaining. All three fucked up their interviews (honestly, only Courtney, didn’t fuck up there) but TKB killed it on the runway, and her lip sync was good. (Though truthfully, I thought Adore’s was better) I didn’t think she’d be in the bottom just yet. Joslyn has kind of been skating by on charm for weeks now and I didn’t mind because she’s so sweet, but I don’t think she should still be there. But truthfully? If I had my way, Joslyn may have gone home this week, but TKB wouldn’t have been far behind anyway.

      • VioletFem

        This was TKB’s 3rd lipsync. Correct me if I’m wrong, but no drag queen after the competition has stayed after having to perform the lipsync three times. Maybe, if she remembered Chaz Bono’s name she might have been able to avoid the bottom two this week.

        • http://recapscallion.blogspot.com/ Claire

          Coco’s the only one who’s done it and really only because they had to make sure that she and Alyssa faced off eventually.

          • VioletFem

            Ah, yes I forgot about that.

            • Raspberry2012

              And also, Coco and Alyssa were both on their third LSFYL. One of them had to go home, which meant the next time, the surviving queen would be on her previously-unheard of fourth LSFYL. If it hadn’t been Coco’s fourth, it would have been Alyssa’s fourth. But that’s the only reason Coco survived her third LSFYL.

        • girlsaturday

          I believe Coco didn’t sashay until her fourth lipsync – but I think that might be the record.

          • VioletFem

            I stand corrected.

          • RussellH88

            And Jujubee had to lip-sync 3 times. She didn’t lose a lip synch, she was just eliminated as part of the final 3.

            • demidaemon

              I posted the same above. Although, most probably thought she should have gone home on her second (against Miss Boxx).

        • demidaemon

          Jujubee is the only other one to survive three lipsyncs, but that pretty much guaranteed that she would not win the entire competition (her third lipsync was the challenge before the finals).

      • Zaftiguana

        Oh man, if it’s a conspiracy theory to believe that Ru will toss a girl in the bottom two and set her up to fail partially on the basis of being tired of ongoing lackluster performance, pass me my tinfoil hat.

      • Eva_baby

        I agree. I think Jos really should have been B2. I call CONSPIRACY THEORY because the upcoming challenges look to be more about creativity and less about performance. These would arguably be more in Trinity’s wheelhouse. She is fantastic at creating looks and would probably KILL at a makeover challenge. If Ru did not intend Trinity to really go far and be a threat, then now is arguably the time to get her out because presumably she would not be really able to get TKB out for not doing well in challenges at which she would most likely excel. It also doesn’t hurt that i really, really feel that Adore is Ru’s pet in a way. Charisma only takes you so far. Adore just looks flat out low rent all the time, imo. I am amazed her look hasn’t been dinged more.

        • demidaemon

          We all know Joslyn is going to fail that challenge based on her taste level unless she has a major epiphany (doubtful!).

    • out for a walk

      I disagree with the uncles on the lip synch… Both queens performed well, but I definitely thought Adore edged out Trinity.

      • VicD

        Honestly, I was stunned at how great Adore was on the lip synch – and she was great. That was one of the hottest LSFYLs ever.

      • VivianAdvanced

        Me, too. Adore seemed more believable in the lip synch. I also didn’t think Ben de la seemed nervous in the interview, and I thought she got more info out of the interviewees than the others. I’ll have to watch them again.

    • Bexxx

      That lip sync was A.MAZ.ING. Every year, as the season goes on, the girls get closer and they begin to play off each other more in the lip syncs. Both Adore and Trinity did great and it was SO much fun watching them work together. What is it with amazing Paula lipsyncs? There was the incredible softcore lesbian porn between Raja and Carmen and the vicious battle between Coco and Alyssa. And Paula herself really was surprisingly lucid, I was expecting more of a Latoya-style judging.

      • Jacob Bowen

        I think we’re due for some LaToya giggling…Paula though was SO sweet and aware that I was shocked as well.

    • Ron Slomowicz

      “You do enough of that, Logo, and we won’t have to suffer through so many painfully earnest HIV med commercials.”

      Thank you for mentioning this.

      • Paigealicious

        True dat.

      • zenobar

        Or that never-ending Orbitz spot with Manila and Alyssa. Jesus, I love both of those queens but it’s gotten so I have to literally look away from the screen when it comes on – which is at least EIGHT TIMES PER EPISODE.

        • RussellH88

          Even Manila tweeted about many times they played it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

            Guess there are no sweet Orbitz residuals…

          • VicD

            Look at is this way, at least those girls are getting paid every time that it airs. And that’s a nice thing. Wigs and gowns don’t grow on trees.

            • RussellH88

              I like to think they do in heaven.

        • PeaceBang

          I wonder why Orbitz only uses Manila and Alyssa? Where’s Jinxx, for instance?

          • demidaemon

            That girl has so many gigs lined up she doesn’t have time for a commercial shoot.

        • Eric Stott

          If you’re watching on the computer you have to refresh after each segment – that cuts the commercials to one per break. It helps a lot.

        • Linderella

          I dvr the show, and start watching it about half an hour after it starts, so that I can fast forward through the ads. It has saved my sanity.

    • hughman

      “we won’t have to suffer through so many painfully earnest HIV med commercials.”

      Oh child. I say this as a person who has lived with HIV/AIDS for 30 years now, if there’s one thing those commercials have taught me is never take off your clothes in public. I hope the Children gather good from the ads but I am always just “no”.

      • RussellH88

        I don’t really see the point of it because the guys are still clothed. Don’t talk about laying yourself bare when you’re standing there in your boxer briefs. You can see in a department store shopping for underwear.

        it just seems like something that someone thought would be poignant but it’s just kinda silly.

        • Jacob Bowen

          The firefighter ad is the only one who needs to to fully bare…but even his commercial TOTALLY loses impact now because it is shown so many times every episode. That, and the Oraquick commercials almost cause me to hit mute. Both are important yes, but drilled into my brain unnecessarily.

          • RussellH88

            The one with the musician is really weird in that he adds music metaphors when referring to sex and it comes across as cheesy as opposed to “We’re addressing a real issue”.

          • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

            I’ll say this about the Oraquick commercials: they prove without a doubt that Shangela is the most polished and comfortable on camera of all the RPDR queens.

            • VioletFem

              There is a troll on this comment section that just posted something very vile.

          • Zaftiguana

            Coco’s Oraquick spot hurts my innards. I don’t know what they were thinking.

            • demidaemon

              SO AWKWARD.

        • MK03

          They can’t get away with full nudity on basic cable (even extended basic cable like Logo).

          • MilaXX

            some carful shading/shadows would take care of that

            • RussellH88

              Yeah, they could do something. Just stopping at the underwear makes the whole “There, now I’ve bared myself” seem half-assed (or no assed I should say *rimshot*)

            • MK03

              Rimshot. Heh.

              sorrysorrysorry

            • RussellH88

              I’m a huge cornball. I love bad jokes and puns.

              But to make it better, I always speak like Valerie Cherish when I make the horrible jokes.

          • hughman

            But why should they? Why is nudity even in the picture? I’ve been open about my status for 20 years and I promise I’ve worn clothes every time I told someone. You’re already as naked as you can be on the inside at the time, you sure as hell don’t need to be fretting over your muffin top or whatever. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              Every blogger needs a hughman to say the inappropriate things you want to say but you know you’d get torn a new asshole if you tried it.

            • Raspberry2012

              It’s true, it’s true.

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

              I look forward to everything you say.

          • Kent Roby

            Discovery Channel’s “Naked And Afraid” shows butts, blurs the rest, and they’ve had butts on SciFy (body painting) and on a tattoo competition show recently. I’m not advocating full nudity for those commercials, BTW.

          • trapperkeeper

            I guess I don’t really get why, if they’re wearing boxers, they have to be such fugly boxers.

        • MilaXX

          It’s too earnest, like a Lifetime movie.

          • Kent Roby

            Those ads are as bad as an episode of “Glee”.

      • StellaZafella

        We are sister/brothers in that I also prefer to say that I have LIVED with HIV since ’84…(lost all my freinds by ’89, etc.) but I find the bare nekid truth ads to be compelling…maybe because I work daily in HIV prevention education.

        PS: I thought DeLa was gonna say she was a TseTse Fly.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      Darienne’s elephant gown was so witty. She even had the glitzy headpiece worn on circus elephants. I loved it so much.

      I loved Untucked his week. Not a lot of anger but a lot of good talk from many of the queens there. More like this please.

      • Qdahling

        My thoughts exactly! I wonder if some of it has to do with Laganga being gone, they can focus on having somewhat normal conversations with a side of shade.

        • Raspberry2012

          Well, with Laganja being gone, there was considerably more oxygen in the room, so they could probably think a little more clearly during their conversations.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

      First off, Sirs T&Lo, bravo. BRAVO.

      Watching this show is an education on production for me. I’ve been doing videos for a few years. For the “International Model” videos, I noticed something was missing and turned to Drag Race to help me. So for the next big video, I grabbed one of my friends who is good looking, stuck him in a leather vest and mesh shirt and named him “Meat”. I expect better results. Hell, even the video is inspired by one of the challenges. The struggle for fame continues…

      My husband also had a similar assessment about Chaz Bono – he kept commenting on how comfortable in his own skin he seemed and how he spoke with confidence. This is from a man who has no idea why Cher is a gay icon (and thinks of “Moonstruck” as a Nic Cage film) and couldn’t name Bette Midler but swore she was in “Death Becomes Her”. This show is bringing us closer and closer together.

    • zenobar

      “Give me Chad Michaels or don’t bother.” YAASSS.

      I just fell so in love with Trinity over the last few episodes. You get the feeling that she genuinely wants to be the best she can be. She was a class act and handled her departure so beautifully – I felt like she meant every word she said about being so grateful and ready to apply what she’d learned to the next leg of her journey. Love to that queen.

      Bianca’s makeup was never better than this week’s catwalk…her face was gorgeous. She may call people out and stir the pot sometimes, but she is an avenging angel when she’s had enough of one queen mistreating another. (Case in point, Darienne’s nastiness.) And I love her for it.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        I found it weird that DeLa mentioned in the confessional that she did not want to confront Darienne, but was hoping a lot for Bianca to do so in her place. Stand up for yourself, girl!

        • zenobar

          I think DeLa has some big confidence issues (she mentioned struggling with depression and I know that can really knock the wind out of a person’s sails). And Darienne is very intimidating. She literally looks down her nose at everyone when she’s in one of her Moods.

          I do get Ben’s non-confrontational nature – I’m a complete pacifist myself – but I agree, she’s going to need to take charge at some point.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

            Go take charge at Michelle! Visage actually seems up for it this season. She seems more loosened up than in the past. She even made a crack about getting replaced by Merle if she acts up too much.

            • zenobar

              That was so funny…

          • RussellH88

            Plus, I think she knows that Darienne won’t take her seriously. She’d attribute it to Bianca’s over sized ego being fragile.

        • http://vispreeve.tumblr.com/ Den Milano

          I think she meant that she didn’t want to be the only one who confronts her. Bianca has an opinion about everything, so when she doesn’t say anything about Darienne it makes an impression that she doesn’t see it or that there’s nothing wrong with Darienne’s remarks.

          • Raspberry2012

            Yes, that’s what I got from her. Not that DeLa’s afraid to stand up for herself, but I got that if she’s the only one calling Darienne out on her bullshit, it makes it look like she’s the only one who has a problem with the way Darienne speaks to her. Just like they all called Laganja out on her bullshit, it would be nice if they all took a moment to tell Darienne to take a seat.

        • PeaceBang

          I loved the lack of drama when the queens told Darienne that she was being evil. Darienne said, “yea, I really have been, sorry.” It’s all so much more pleasant and interesting without the high hysterics of a LaGanga or a Coco or a PhiPhi. Note to producers: some of us prefer interesting conversations among the girls to fireworks and waterworks.

          • Cambel

            THANK YOU!!! I blame it all on those idiot producers of MTV’s “The Real World” After they cast that idiot “Puck” it’s like every reality show tries to get bigger and bigger idiots. Frankly, if the fireworks get too bad I’ll just stop watching a show.

      • Krista Nielsen

        Agree with you about Trinity! In the beginning I wasn’t a big fan, but in the last few weeks the viewer got to see that her defensiveness was just insecurity, and she really proved she’s willing to learn and has a sense of humor about herself. I’ll miss her!

    • kduffin7

      Georgia! What an inspiration. Brava, lady.

    • Stella Zawistowski

      So…Courtney just had that thing in her suitcase?

      • MilaXX

        I’m sure they are given a brief outline of what types of outfits they will need

        • RussellH88

          And according to what Joslyn said, they’re given some materials to work with, because she said that’s where she got the fur and the feathers.

          • demidaemon

            Yeah, Joslyn, maybe you should have avoided that stuff this time.

        • Paigealicious

          I think I heard an interview with Willam that they give you basic ideas…animal drag, black and white, old hollywood, etc.

        • Raspberry2012

          Yes, I’m pretty sure I heard that they have an idea of what types of outfits to bring with them. Country themed, animal themed, etc.

      • MK03

        I am positive that the queens ship most of their stuff ahead of them. All those wigs and gowns take up a lot of suitcase space.

      • andcoh

        The queens (at least in past seasons) were allowed four suitcases of costumes, wigs, etc to bring things. There is also material provided for each challenge should they want to make their own (like Roxxxy did a lot). They are given a list ahead of time of potential themes that may occur (western, animal, scifi, pink) and it appears they get more direction for very specific themes.

        • Aurora Leigh

          That’s interesting. I feel like in past seasons there was more emphasis on the queens making runway looks as part of their challenges, but this season (and maybe last season too, I can’t remember) it seems like they are using the drag they brought with for almost every challenge.

    • Marina

      Joslyn should have been in the bottom.
      That lip-synch was great but I thought Adore did better than Trinity.
      My love for Bianca can’t possibly get any bigger, I might explode.

    • MilaXX

      Agreed. Trinity;s story was over as as soon as she messed up the interview portion, I thought she was done. Other than the abortion question Joslyn gave a decent interview, but I would have put her in the bottom for that runway look alone. I am bored with her pile everything on ans show my butt cheeks runway style. It’s not even remotely cute. Adore runway look was tacky as well, but Joslyn has been a repeat offender for far too long. Courtney may go the body route on the runway, but at least her looks meet the challenge criteria. Joslyn’s does not.

      As for Logo’s programming, I cannot figure them out. They just seem to have given up. They won’t let go of Ru because it’s likely the biggest money maker, but they sure aren’t trying to do anything else.

      • Raspberry2012

        Their programming really is horrible, and I say that as a straight woman. Other than Ru, it seems like the ONLY kind of shows they have are tired sitcoms that may or may not slightly appeal to a gay audience. I mean, I get that “Will and Grace” features two gay characters, but other than that, the show wasn’t all that funny.

        Okay, I lied – I totally get why they run “Golden Girls”, because it’s awesome. But the rest of that tired tripe? I just don’t see it. They really need to focus on legitimate LGBT programming, because, “Oh! Hey, there’s one gay character on this show!” doesn’t cut it.

        • MilaXX

          I seem to recall them saying they were moving away from original LGBT programming some time around when they canceled The A-List. I mean, I get why they canceled A-List, it was terrible. It just seems like there is still money to be made with LGBT programming. There are shows flourishing as web series that could work well on LOGO. Not everything will be the lightening in a bottle hit of Drag Race, but I’m sure there’s good stuff out there.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

            I am sure they said that too.

    • Patrick Cleary

      Adore needed to be on the bottom so that she could lip synch Paula Abdul’s song in front of Paula Abdul, who was her judge on American Idol.

      Why Joslyn wasn’t against her is anybody’s guess. I guess it was just Trinity’s time to go.

      • Linderella

        It was another of those situations where the chosen song tells you who’s leaving. Though Trinity did a great job, that song choice was a piece of chocolate on the pillow to Adore. And the instant she did the crazy eyes, that .00001% of doubt evaporated: she had this.

    • girlsaturday

      Honestly, if I had been TKB I might have tried to BS the Chaz/Chad thing as the damn flipper messing my my diction.

      So uh, is it just me or was the lipsync song pretty terrible? I’m not really familiar with Paula Abdul beyond a few big hits but…really?

      I’m honestly surprised that Joslyn wasn’t lipsyncing – her vs Trinity seemed to be a natural ‘thin out the competition and see who wants it the most’ matchup.
      Adore really won it for me when she went from the cartwheel into the little pinup kneeling pose, but I think (as weird as it sounds) that she also had way better makeup for lipsyncing – Trinity’s features were all kind of washed out under that very heavy dark makeup on her forehead and Adore had that very clearly defined eye and lip that really helped her telegraph her performance under the LSFYL lighting.

      • aquababe

        Trinity wasn’t wearing the flipper during the interview though.

        • demidaemon

          I think she gave it up after they critiqued it the first time.

    • Kent Roby

      Last night I hung out with Bianca (and a mutual close friend) for an hour or so in her hotel room sharing champagne as she was “beating her mug” for a meet-and-greet/viewing/performance back home here in New Orleans. I’m in pain today from laughing so much. She said that she is smart enough to stay off blogs, figuring that plenty of people have WAY too much advice/criticism for her, but I assured her that she has much love from Bitter Kittens!

      • VioletFem

        OH MY GOD! I am so jealous of you right now! Her and Jinkx are the two RPDR queens I would most like to meet. Send her my love if you ever meet her again!

        • Kent Roby

          I’ve known her for 20 years; I’m pretty sure I’ll see her again!

          • Imasewsure

            I really hope that Drag Race leads to huge things for Ms. Bianca… she is charming as a man and as a woman and it would be amazing to see that translate in to whatever she wants it to translate in to (I’m good with “Late Night With Bianca” or how about “Mornings with Kathy Lee, Hoda and Bianca” (get the first two drunk and then it’s just “Mornings With Bianca”)… :)

            • Kent Roby

              Hoda is also a New Orleanian living in New York, so that would be pretty cool!

      • RussellH88

        I’m so insanely jealous.

        I want Bianca to adopt me.

        • Kent Roby

          In that case, I’ll share a few spoilers: she promised that someone literally DIES in the next episode, and said something about having a fling with Darienne! (I think she maybe possibly be teasing about one or both of those!). I was particularly interested to find out the logistics of filming (one episode= 2 days, all queens are kept apart when not filming including separate hotels, etc.).

          • RussellH88

            Separate hotels, really? I remember back in season 3, Manila posted videos in the hotel and everyone seemed to share the same space with each other.

            I wonder if they changed it now to keep up the drama? Now no one can resolve their issues without being on camera.

            • Kent Roby

              Separate rooms for sure, but, yeah, probably same hotel. But there is no contact between contestants; it makes a lot of sense, because you wouldn’t want any sort of drama that wasn’t being captured on film.

          • AnotherG

            “Maybe possibly?” LOL! I love the fact that you got to see her in her hometown. Last time I was in New Orleans, it happened to be the summer Season 1 victory tour and I got to see Bebe perform. I have good luck in that city with drag, so between that and the fact that Trombone Shorty seems to be coming up in my music feed a lot today, I think the city is beckoning me once again. It’s been far too long.

      • Qdahling

        Sounds awesome! She’s doing a meet and greet in San Francisco next month and I am so freakin excited to meet her, she’s my favorite this season.

      • LJCdoc

        I want to be you so bad it hurts!!!!!!

      • MK03

        JEALOUS.

        • Kent Roby

          Don’t be jealous; just move to New Orleans, we are CRAWLING with awesome talent!

          • MK03

            Please tell me you’re Bianca. I’mma pretend you are anyway.

      • Raspberry2012

        Ahhhhh!!!! You’re so lucky! I’m so glad you told her how much we love her!

    • jonnyf8

      Josyln shold have been in the bottom.

    • Krista Nielsen

      “YOU’RE A SHADY ELEPHANT!” is just the best thing. Thank you Bianca for being!

      • In_Stitches

        Plus Vivacious’ Shady Apes call out earlier this season. What other shady jungle animals do we have headed our way?

        • LongAl

          I have incorporated Shady Apes into my daily vocabulary. Shady Elephants is soon to follow.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        I thought elephants are supposed to be shady, being so large and able to block so much of the sun in the hot African savannah?

    • Eric Stott

      Oh Darienne….the Big Gal dresses as an Elephant. Not really bad, but honey it wasn’t flattering. Embrace your inner Divine & break out some animal prints.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

        Those tusk earrings needed some elevating – looked too post-Halloween clearance sale. I saw a small row of rhinestones but “a small row of rhinestones” should not even exist on this show.

        • LongAl

          That just reminds me of Manila Luzon when someone (I think it was Latoya Jackson) said something about her hair being too big with her response being ‘HOW DARE YOU?!!?! I’M A DRAG QUEEN!!!’ Darienne should have took that and applied it to rhinestones.

        • Kent Roby

          Tsk, tsk on those tusks; they should have been paved with rhinestones for sure, especially since the dress was basically a so wrong, I mean, “sarong”.

    • Linderella

      As much as I’ve been all about Joslyn this season, last night I completely made peace with the fact that she won’t make it to the end. Because, frankly, if I were in charge, I’d have sent her home last night. It wasn’t that her talk show was the worst, it was the obvious cluelessness behind it. Girl, you don’t know there’s certain things not to discuss? Really?! And I wanted to reach through my television and rip that hideous runway look right off her back. Joslyn, my beloved kitteh, you disappoint so hard.

      • Eric Stott

        These days any decent interviewer would lead with questions that don’t involve Cher. It’s true that she’s the primary reason those two are of interest, but the segment should be about THEM, not HER.

    • hellkell

      Joslyn and Darienne better pack their things, because one of them’s going home next week.

      I can see why Mama Ru felt Adore needed the smackdown, but I gasped when Trinity was in the bottom instead of Joslyn.

    • pdquick

      Dammit, Logo!! Bring back “SHE-MAIL!” I felt cheated all night long.

      • RussellH88

        That’s a whole can of worms, right that.

      • VioletFem

        The show will survive just fine without “She-Mail”.

      • Linderella

        I never minded “She-Mail” only because it was such a silly pun. But the frequent use of “She Male” and “Tranny” needed to go, and I think it’s got to be an all or nothing decision.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        But we had a gigantic Pit Crew! That doesn’t make up for the verbal She-Mail call?

        • pdquick

          I almost missed it. Usually my cue to put down the laptop and look up at the TV for the mini-challenge is when I start giggling at “Ooooh, girl! You’ve got She-Mail!”

          But speaking of misrepresentation and offense, I am pissed that the SCRUFF pit crew is waxed and oiled. As a big hairy sissy, I DEMAND that LogoTV remove from the air any representation of scruffy men as waxed and oiled. And muscular. That should be banned.

      • Kent Roby

        Interestingly, the mutual friend I was with before the show is transitioning, when Bianca got a text from Logo reminding her to avoid “she-male” and “tranny” in her performance to reinforce the new stance. I’m fine with avoiding something that offends some of the transgender community.

        • DonnaL

          Thank you. I get so upset sometimes when people are so dismissive about something so hurtful. Is it really so hard to give up something that makes you laugh for two seconds when that very same word (in its real form) has been used for the last 40 years to attack trans women? (Note the title of the most famously transphobic book ever written, published all the way back in 1979.) I’m a trans woman and my son is gay, and we both love RPDR, and he was as upset as I was at that “female or ——” segment.

          • pdquick

            It’s a drag show. If we’re going to eliminate everything from the show that’s rude, insensitive, or politically incorrect, it will be 3 minutes of a video of a not-entirely-cis-gendered-gay man in male drag watching a video of his family telling him they love him and then having him dab at his eyes with Kleenex, followed by 87 minutes of dead air.

            • DonnaL

              You’re using pretty much the same logic as the people who say, “well, if we let men marry other men, the next thing you know, people will be marrying their dogs.” Apparently, lines are impossible to draw, and allowing or prohibiting one thing means allowing or prohibiting everything. If you’re right, then I suppose the next thing you’ll be doing is to advocate for the regular use of the f word and the n word on RPDR? Really, I don’t think you have to worry; I trust RuPaul and the other people behind the show to still be able to make the show entertaining and funny without using slurs. They actually have more talent than that.

          • somebody blonde

            Just to understand better, was the game itself offensive? I fully understand why the word is offensive, but now I’m kind of wondering how a trans woman might feel about the entire concept of trying to clock whether a specific body part belongs to a woman or a drag queen.

    • MzzPants

      How Joslyn didn’t end up in the bottom two is beyond me. And while Courtney’s overall performance this week was great, she has never looked more masculine than during her runway walk. No hips, no waistline, the body piece could be a sculpted man chest, the slicked back hair read as bald. I think the theatrics of the look is what wowed. Why is she not being read for body shape?

      If I could be Ru for a day, and how I wish I could, Ben would have won and Joslyn would’ve gone home.

      • Linderella

        I still don’t get why they aren’t reading Courtney for that body-ody-ody. She’s got a great body, but it is a man’s body, pure and simple. She’s not even dude in a dress, because there is no dress! She’s just dude.
        ETA: Oh, crap, did I just quote Gia Fucking Gunn?!

      • CelandineM

        Adore got bitched out more than once for not being cinched so it boggles my mind why Courtney gets a pass.

        • NeenaJ

          I don’t understand why they didn’t read Darienne about the underpinnings (lack thereof) of that dress! That fabric is so unforgiving for showing the jelly. For all the fake nipples in the world – she couldn’t score a body shaper to smooth things out?

      • Drunken Housewife

        I was staring at Courtney in disbelief on the runway. Of course I liked the wings, but what i saw was a man with wings (like that ancient Led Zeppelin cover). If she’d had different shaped underpants, it would have helped (these were really shaped like a man’s bikini briefs; a high cut over the thigh would have helped her look more feminine). Larger breasts on the breastplate would have helped. Flowing hair or larger hair would have helped. Some kind of corseting would have helped immensely.

        A pair of thigh high boots does not turn a handsome man into a woman.

        I strongly felt Ben de la Creme should have won. She was so humorous and skillful at the interview (I was pleasantly surprised), and her insect drag was so fully realized. Courtney was good at the interview, but I feel the runway look was over-praised. And Courtney’s “I want to see this on Facebook, I want to see this on blogs” was really obnoxious. Honey, IT WASN’T THAT GOOD.

    • Jacob Bowen

      I totally though Adores lip synch was better, Trinity seemed to just be giving her same schtick, which, granted, was appropriate for a Paula Abdul song. Adore is continuing of surprise, her lip synch was MILES better than I assumed it would be!

      I wasn’t that shocked that Bianca wasn’t as great at this challenge, because she wasn’t able to be her sassy self and not having to worry about offending her guests. But she did look FABULOUS on the runway!

      • somebody blonde

        I don’t think there was a true quality difference between Trinity and Adore’s lip syncs- they were both great, it just depends what style you’re into. I preferred Trinity’s (more specifically choreographed and extremely polished), but I can see why someone would like Adore’s more spontaneous-looking style.

      • Imasewsure

        I think the talent was there for Trinity for sure but Adore’s personality really came through to make that lip sinc her own. Yes it was not her time to go but I also thought she deserved the win there anyway. Uniqueness…. love love love Adore

    • Linderella

      Oh. Paula. How. I’ve. Missed. Your. (allegedly) Painkiller-Addled. Brain.
      C’mon, you just KNOW she had no clue who Adore was!

    • GiraffeCat

      I love how good Joslyn is at defusing awkward conversations. I wonder if she is a middle child.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        She is pretty good at that. Her biggest regret that Cher will be told she’s an a-hole? LOL!

    • ScarlettHarlot

      There is no way Joslyn should have stayed last night, I can’t believe it. I really like her, but she fumbled both the interview and the runway. Trinity only messed up (albeit tremendously) during the interview. Her runway look was so much better than Joslyn’s.

      That was a hell of a lip synch, though. Too bad Ru already used up her “Shante, you both stay” for the season. (For a much less impressive set of performances, in my opinion.)

      • Linderella

        Totally agree. It kills me, because Joslyn’s emerged as my favorite queen, but she deserved the boot.

    • http://vispreeve.tumblr.com/ Den Milano

      The reason why I love this season so much is because it’s mostly drama free. The biggest bitches are already gone (Gia and Laganja) and they weren’t a real treat in the first place. In that sense is different from previous seasons. Raja was constantly attacked by Shangela, Sharon by Phi Phi and Jinkx by Roxxy. This season there are no big rivalries. I mean, who can come for Bianca? Darienne knows to be mean, but she chickens out whenever someone confronts her. It’s refreshing to see that all remaining queens made it this far because they’re talented and not just because they bring drama.

      • In_Stitches

        Raja was constantly attacked by Shangela? I’d reverse that. Raja was the shady elephant of her season.

        • Imasewsure

          Yes but I was attacking Shangela through my screen each week and I refuse to apologize for that!

      • VicD

        Yes, I hate it when they are tearing each other down. It is so much better when they are building each other up… one of the reasons why we are all loving Bianca so much! She has the inner security to help all boats rise with her tide.

    • Sif

      I want Courtney to be in the top 3.

    • indigospade

      I love Ben Delacreme so much and I think this episode finally brought up to me why that is. She’s mentioned it before on instagram, but hearing her mention to Ru how she battles with depression, introversion,n and anxiety through hsi bubbly character really stuck with me. Like him I suffer all those things, sometimes to an extreme that at any moment I can be a bundle of nerves scared of himself and what I might do. But when I need to put on a brave face for work or my family, the Dela side of me comes out and I put extra effort in being bubbly, funny, and engaged. Yes it’s fake, but in a lot of ways it helps. I’m glad Ben mentioned it because it kind of eases me knowing that someone on TV I admire does the exact same thing (just through drag), and it helps.

      I think Bianca will win, but I hope Ben makes it to the top 3. <3

    • PeaceBang

      Can someone remind me of the expression Michelle used for Joslyn’s bad tuck? Was it “meaty tuck?” I was laughing too hard to mentally record it.

      • Aurora Leigh

        Yes, “meaty tuck” was the phrase.

    • Zaftiguana

      Huh, I’d disagree that Courtney was head and shoulders above BenDeLa. I thought they were at least even, though my personal taste runs more toward Ben (but I was a-okay with Courtney’s win). She got funnier bits in and made her guests laugh while also touching on their projects in a way that tapped into their excitement about them. Michelle’s right that she really nailed the balance between her stage character and the much more relatable person we see in interviews. Courtney was also fabulous, but she felt a little blasé after the initial excitement wore off. And frankly, I’m a bit bored with Courtney being a bit bored.

    • Fall

      The only thing I loved about Adore this week was her Mortal Kombat inspiration if just for #fatality
      Also “What’s a The Depression?” lol
      I’m so glad Courtney Act won! I honestly don’t see the “mean girl” everyone else does, I just see a dry Aussie humor. Kinda like Ja’mie Private School Girl. I loved the look this week though, although I didn’t like where the top sat on her (also what was up with visible nips this week?)
      Joslyn my dear, you lack tact. No lady wants to talk about their abortion just because. Also your tuck was gross. You’re too sweet but step it up please.
      Poor Trinity K. Bonet, RuPaul has set you free to do good. Not well. Good. :)

      • In_Stitches

        Ja’mie IS mean. I mean, Ja’mie a character and a farcical one at that, so there’s wit and intelligence to it, but with Courtney, she’s a real person in a non-fictional environment. She can’t get away with the same things.

      • cassandu

        oh no, you did NOT just compare courtney act to ja’mie! adore’s bitchy-mean-girl-commercial is closer to ja’mie. ja’mie is HILARIOUS! courtney is just… ZZZZzZzZzzzzz

    • Cambel

      Does anybody else hate the phony reality show set up’s as when they pretended that Paula didn’t know anybody from Idol was on the show and pretended to just recognize Adore’s voice?

      Come on Logo, we aren’t stupid, there is nothing wrong with Paula being real and saying “When they told me you were on here I couldn’t wait to see you in Drag!” Or something like that.

      That said, good show, Chaz Bono finally seems comfortable. Was odd to hear him say he was hetrosexual, but he was a great addition to the show and the Chad Michaels comment was hilarious!

      My guess for bottom two next week is Darienne and Joslyn.

      • Eric Stott

        If that is true it will definitely come down to the lip sync skills. I like Joslyn as a person, but Darienne’s makeup skills are far superior, and while her costume choices are unexciting at least they are appropriate and flattering. Joslyn has serious taste issues.

        • Caity

          That, and Darienne is a hell of a lip syncher.

    • W A

      LOGO’s problem is that it wants to be gay TV for straight people.

      • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

        It kind of has to be that. The gay demographic is too small to support an entire roster of programming devoted to it.

        • Cambel

          Not really, but why bother to watch it when all they have a reruns of 16 and pregnant?

          • Linderella

            And reruns of “Into the Blue,” which is on at least 3 times every 48 hours.

        • Jeremy Thomas Porta

          That, and I’m not sure that besides something like Drag Race or a possible Hung Man game show that I’d be interested in watching just gay gay gay gay gay tv all day long.

        • somebody blonde

          I don’t know about that exactly- it’s just that it has to advertise better to straight people. Most of my straight friends didn’t know anything about RuPaul’s Drag Race until I made them start watching, and now they’re addicts. I think straight people (straight women especially) can be perfectly happy to watch gay programming for gay people once they start, but they need a push to get into it in the first place.

      • Caity

        I’m a woman in a hetero marriage (not hetero myself, but I guess I like guys enough to have married one). I would watch the shit out of a channel filled with Hung Man and The Snatch Game.

    • AnotherG

      And now we know why Courtney and Ben are still in it. Courtney is so even-keeled, that even when she’s being shady, you get a sense that it’s not too harsh (unless you’re Joslyn), and that challenge was really perfect for her. And Ben’s look was Mummenschanz realness in the best possible way.

      Also, that was another excellent LSFYL. Trinity is one of the consistently best lip-synchers I think the show has seen. Trinity, when Bianca asks you what you do best, you can say that, with your head held high.

      Adore’s story, yes, not done yet. But the narrative of Adore cuts both ways: from another angle, I think this was also Ru’s way of saying to Adore, “Girl, I’ve stuck my neck out here for you. Bring. It. And show me you deserve to stay.” I think given the redemption storylines were ripe for either contestant, if Adore hadn’t matched energy with Trinity, I suspect that Ru was perfectly willing to let her go. Admittedly, I don’t think it was much of a gamble, because Adore would probably have done nearly anything at that moment to stay. And the result was amazeballs.

      And Trinity, I will never think of you as another Tyra Sanchez again. Twice the class and imagination, and a transformational attitude to boot. May they serve you well. Brava, queen.

      • Eric Stott

        I think we’ll be seeing Trinity on Logo announcements and commercials very soon.

      • CelandineM

        Trinity’s exit was also very classy. I as well offer an apology for calling her a Tyra 2.0. I look forward to seeing her again somewhere in the Ru-niverse.

    • AnotherG

      Also, I can’t help but think Joslyn was paying some kind of (cute but awkward) homage to Alaska: “Chaz Bono came out of Cher’s vagina!” Wasn’t that the quote?

      • LongAl

        I’m glad someone else saw that! I don’t know if it was intentional, but I liked that… Not a big enough homage to make it good enough though. Sadface.

    • Jacqueline Wessel

      I agree that the Logo Network could be so much better, and they have everything they need with all the talent that has come out of RPDR. They could certainly use more programming considering that they run repeats of RPDR practically every day for hour on end. I don’t mind seeing them more than once, but there’s so much more they could do. Lazy Logo.

      I was surprised Joslyn didn’t have to lipsync, but she is so sweet that I’m glad she’ll be there for another week. I think Adore being in the bottom two was a warning to her, but I knew she would be spared. Trinity should definitely take the advice of that lovely woman (who’s name escapes me) who told her to “put a cork in it”. She is a mush-mouth, but with some practice and maybe some diction exercises she could really shine and also overcome some of her insecurities. I really thought the win should have gone to DeLa, her runway look was far superior to Courtney’s weird mechanical wings and I thought they were pretty much equal in the interviews. I was surprised that Bianca didn’t perform better, I think Bianca was surprised as well. I have to give it up for Darienne, it takes a lot of nerve to wear an elephant ensemble when you’re a large person. Most of us wouldn’t go near the elephant motif for fear of all those elephant comparisons (I’ve had my share).

      Last, but not least, Cher’s mom is awesome. (And that’s not a word I use lightly.)

    • LongAl

      It pains me to say it, but Joslyn really should have sashayed over Trinity. I adore my ‘little drag queen who could’, but oh my GOD how awful. On the other hand, Trinity really didn’t have much more ‘reality TV growth’ left in her after the past two weeks so it was probably her time to go. Even if she did lipsync better than Adore but, as you said earlier TLo, definitely not Adore’s time to go.

      As much as I loved Courtney’s runway look this week, I REALLY wish she had cinched her waist in. Beautiful look but I just got boxy from her from that. I honestly preferred Ben’s runway look, but I am not angry with Courtney’s win.

      SO glad Darienne got called out for her meanness on Untucked too. Time to ‘read her beads’, Bianca!! Got to love Bianca saying ‘You know you’re a hateful bitch when a hateful bitch is telling you this.’ (or something)

      • http://cheeriosnotapplejacks.tumblr.com zob rombie

        This is not meant as shade, but could you explain the appeal of Ben’s runway look? I really have been trying to get behind it as a sci-fi fan and a fan of high-concept drag, and don’t get me wrong the initial movement was amazing, totally sold it. It’s just that once she went from fly to fly girl the silhouette didn’t quite translate (the best part was probably the peplum-esque wing/shell details aroudn the hip area for me). I think she really ran with the runway theme this week and that’s commendable, I just don’t know that she looked good so much as she looked memorable.

        • LongAl

          No shade taken from it, I understand that some can’t get behind it. My personal reasons for preferring Dela’s look to Courtney’s was that the concept was much more considered and thought out, and above all more unexpected than her other looks. Courtney reverts to ‘body-ody-ody’ and beautiful as she is she’s just ‘boy-oy-oy’, and Dela did give a more feminine figure when stood up. That’s not saying I prescribe to the Gia Gunn school of drag but if you’re trying to be feminine, I prefer someone who actually achieves it than someone who thinks she has and falls flat.

          • http://cheeriosnotapplejacks.tumblr.com zob rombie

            Okay, that all makes sense (I can appreciate the merit of Dela taking a risk) and of course personal taste is personal :). Although, I’m going to go on record saying I didn’t prefer Courtney’s necessarily (I thought it was impressive, but there were fitting issues, makeup issues, you know, detail stuff). In general I’ve thought her body-ody-ody has been cleverly varied amongst other things and a lot of the body looks have been successful (the bedspread/sleepmask reveal still strikes me as clever/polished), but this week I have to agree that there was boy body almost filling out a very hard to work lady costume. I honestly didn’t care for much of anything on the runway this week, except for maybe Trinity (whoops bye) and Bianca’s body/face makeup with that hair.

        • girlsaturday

          I really liked the outfit, but I had Don Bluth’s Thumbelina on video as a kid and it reminded me so much of Thumbelina’s beetle dress – so my reaction may have been nostalgia bombing more than anything else.

          • http://cheeriosnotapplejacks.tumblr.com zob rombie

            WHAAATTTTT I remember that video, I totally see that now.

          • Jeremy Thomas Porta

            That was my first thought when I saw it. I LOVED that movie. I was kind of thinking maybe Ben was paying that a purposeful omage with her makeup, but that might just be my imagination.

      • Lara

        I’m so glad I’m not the only one getting boxy from Courtney. Every week, I think “this queen thinks she has a great body, but she has to do something about that waist!”.

        • VicD

          This look from Courtney would have totally been boy if it weren’t for the freakish breastplate. The pretend breasts were the one visual trigger… “oh, this is a female.” The sleeked back hair was another detail that did not help the femininity of the look. Perhaps some sort of feathery headdress / wig could have added to a more feminine aspect. It was spectacular – but in the way that Cirque du Soleil costumes are spectacular. It wasn’t so much that it was spectacular drag. Bianca, Trinity, and DeLa all did a better job of capturing the spirit of this runway, IMHO. Even Darienne’s funny take on the theme was more appropriately drag to me, although it wasn’t as pretty or spectacular as some of the other looks, it was creative and witty.

        • Siege

          I’m shocked that Michelle hasn’t read her for it, since Adore (in full clothing, no less) was apparently just unbearable uncinched.

    • Chevalle

      This episode was generally abysmal. No one really wowed me in the main challenge, even Ben and Courtney. The runway looks were fabulous, though.

      Much more interesting, I think, is that as of this episode Drag Race will no longer have the “She-Mail” segment. What does TLo think about the mud-slinging that Drag Race and RuPaul are transphobic and offensive? Personally, I’m really upset by these accusations. RuPaul has been such a trailblazer for every aspect of the community and has always accepted trans contestants on Drag Race with open arms. To say that RuPaul is transphobic is really appalling. I feel like people throw around the -PHOBIC and -IST trigger words far too flippantly. It comes off as manufactured outrage and is tired and trite. People are not unintentionally racist, or sexist, or homophobic, or transphobic. These are conscious, demeaning choices. Drag Race never referred to trans people as “tranny” and “she-male.” We queens have always referred to each other by these words. It’s tongue-in-cheek. It’s subverting offensive words by transforming them into terms of endearment.

      This is not the battle that needed to be fought, in my opinion. RuPaul is not an enemy of the trans community, and it really saddens me to see those accusations thrown at him after everything he has done for all of us. It’s clear that RuPaul is upset about this, as well. I think he really summed it up on Twitter yesterday when he posted:

      “Orwell’s book ANIMAL FARM: The rebels eventually forgot the purpose of the revolution #LibraryIsOpen”

      • In_Stitches

        I wish one of the queens had taken the opportunity to address those kinds of issues during the challenge considering they were interviewing a trans man. On paper, to the uninformed they’re very similar things, but in reality they have absolutely nothing in common. It would have been cool to have seen that dialogue from those two very different vantage points.

        • Nathan

          The problem is a lot of gay people don’t even really understand being trans. I was completely clueless until I happened to meet a trans woman who talked to me about her past. The gay and trans communities may both be included in LGBT, but sometimes gay people aren’t really equipped to be proper allies for trans people.

      • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

        I think trans people and gay people are natural allies with very different experiences and I think there needs to be understanding and respect on both sides.

        • Steve Ek

          I would agree, because all of us in the LGBT world start from that “not fitting in” to gender norms place. And irreverence is not disrespect – as you two beautifully demonstrate on a daily basis. My problem is with any member of any group that has no ability to laugh at themselves and cannot decipher when others are laughing with them not at them. I’ve always found one of the benefits of being gay is that I could revel in the irreverent and it was in a strange sort of way expected of me. To me, the thought police are the thought police no matter what group the officers are from. Every group has its extremists (and its humor challenged members). If we give in to them then funny is dead.

          • Susan Velazquez

            This isn’t an issue about trans people not being able to take a joke. Trans people should not have to be the butt of jokes to be accepted in the LGBT community. If you think humor will be over because you can’t use transphboic language anymore, you probably weren’t very funny to begin with.

      • hellkell

        I don’t even know what to think, except this whole thing makes me want a vat of martinis. The mini-challenge with “Male or She-Male” was in bad taste, so OK, that needed to be addressed. But “Girl, you got she mail?” No.

        I think a lot of this is to the tumblrisation of social justice issues (I once called a transphobe for using the word “dick” on another website. I am not making that up), and I also think it’s falling along generational lines. Those of us with a few more miles on the odometer seem to be more willing to pick our battles. I don’t consider Ru an enemy of the trans community, she’s been very supportive of the queens who’ve come out as transitioning.

      • Cambel

        I think Chaz saying he was heterosexual puts the differences into stark relief.

      • Chartreusite

        I do think RuPaul has been really iconic and important for the LGBT community, and I think that’s proven by her (or the producers’) willingness to drop something that a group of people find very hurtful. It’s not about saying “you’re awful people” I think the outrage has been about educating and trying to help the community as a whole figure out how to best stand solidly with its various demographics.

      • Zaftiguana

        But at the end of the day, what was it about those jokes that was so fantastic that made them worth the hurt they caused many trans people, who already probably have kind of enough on their plate? What’s wrong with the show determining that just dropping them was the way to go?

        It’s also worth listening to trans people, including contestants and would-be contestants, who don’t agree that they’ve been accepted with open arms. And prejudice can absolutely be unintentional. Intent matters, but it’s not magic.

        • Chevalle

          Because tranny and she-male has never, ever been applied to a transgender person on the show. If you have evidence of the contrary, please let me know. I don’t know how familiar you are with drag or ballroom culture, but we call each other “tran” and “tranny” all the time. That’s because we’ve been called that by others, often in a derogatory way. Drag queens have always taken offensive things thrown at us and subverted them into entertainment and endearment. That is the cornerstone of the art form.

          Once again, I repeat that these words have only ever applied to drag queens on the show. That’s, to me, the important part. If it has ever been used to talk about an actual transgender person, then I apologize and completely concede the point. But I really don’t think it has. THAT would be completely offensive. But, as drag queens, we call each other bitch, cunt, fag, tranny, hag, and a whole slew of traditionally horrific words as terms of endearment. That’s our culture. Are we not allowed to use those other words, either? It’s part of our mission to empower ourselves through owning these negative ideals. That’s why we raise the middle finger to gender stereotypes, after all!

          I also really think it is telling how RuPaul has reacted to the horrific mudslinging in his direction over this. Have you looked at the #WeHateRuPaul tag on Twitter? If you look at Ru’s messages over social media, you can tell that he is very upset over being called transphobic, offensive, bigoted, and worse.

          At the end of the day, if people think RuPaul is the enemy of the community, then I truly feel sad for them.

          • Zaftiguana

            What does who it’s applied to have to do with it? I think it’s who’s saying it and in what context that’s a bigger deal. I mean, we certainly don’t say it’s totally cool when dumb white suburban kids call each other the n-word because hey, they didn’t refer to a black person, you know? And I have to say that it’s interesting that of all of the words you listed, the only one I haven’t seen the show use, even spelled out, is fag, the one that unequivocally applies just to gay men, the group predominantly represented on the show. I hadn’t thought about that before.

            But that aside, you’re kind of side-stepping my initial question. In a case where the disagreement is over a pun on a reality show, what’s wrong with the producers deciding it isn’t worth any hurt it’s causing? Is that really a case over which it’s worth shaking a fist at the kids these days?

          • DonnaL

            Go read Monica Robert’s blog. She’s a very well-known trans woman of color, who’s been calling out Ru’s repeated transphobic comments, and extremely rude dismissiveness of trans women’s feelings, for years. It’s nothing new, believe me. And I like Ru. But please don’t pretend she knows what it’s like to be trans, or has the right to tell trans women what words are hurtful. I understand that “tranny” has roots in both communities, but that doesn’t give her the right to reclaim it for anyone but herself, or to criticize anyone who finds it upsetting.

            As for “she-male,” that word has never, ever been associated with drag — it has always, for at least the last 40 years, been used to refer to trans women who have breasts but haven’t had genital surgery. (Not a common look among gay men, the last time I checked.) The same as “chicks with d—s.” It’s been used that way forever in porn and prostitution (I’ve known sex workers who are trans who use it for advertising purposes because it brings in customers, but it isn’t how they identify), but it’s also been used over and over again for decades as a term of hatred; sometimes that word and the T word are the last words trans women hear before they’re savagely beaten or murdered.. Look up Janice Raymond’s book, probably the most horribly transphobic book ever written, the one that says all trans women rape women’s bodies. “She-Male” is part of the title. And people have the unmitigated nerve to say that trans women should “lighten up”? So what if the word wasn’t specifically being used to refer to trans women? It’s not Ru’s word to reclaim. Anyone who makes that silly argument has no right to complain when Anne Coulter uses the “f” word and claims it’s OK because she wasn’t talking about someone gay. And has no right to complain when people excuse saying “it’s so gay” by claiming that the way they use it has nothing to do with gay people. The hypocrisy is staggering, and I’m grateful that there are actually plenty of gay men — like my own son, although I admit he’s biased! — who “get it.”

            • Chevalle

              I took the time to read Monica Robert’s pieces at your suggestion. Thank you for posting that! I am always interested in reading other opinions in discussions like this. Likewise, I encourage you to read a piece by Our Lady J, a transgender artist, published by Huffington Post, on this subject as well.

              I understand where you’re coming from, and I think I know where there is a key difference. RuPaul is not pretending to know what it’s like to be transgender, nor do I think he has ever said that he has the right to tell trans women what words are hurtful. Instead, I think RuPaul’s use of the word “tranny” specifically applies to drag culture, which, as many trans writers (including the delightful Parker Molloy) have specified, is not the same as the trans culture. Ergo, because of the inherent mercurial nature of language in differing cultures, words take on differing meanings. In trans culture, “tranny” is negative. In drag culture, “tranny” is positive. We cannot, then, use our categorical definition of the word and apply it to the other culture. I cannot apply my positive definition of the word, as a term of endearment, to a transgender person because they have a different categorical definition. Likewise, a transgender person cannot do the same thing to me. The word is the same but the meaning is different. That’s why it absolutely matters where (context) and to whom (culture) the word “tranny” is said. I ABSOLUTELY agree with you that RuPaul (or any drag queen, but RuPaul is naturally seen as a public microcosm of drag culture due to the power of celebrity) has no right to criticize anyone who finds the word offensive. Likewise, I do not believe anyone has the right to criticize my culture, which finds the word empowering and beautiful.

              With regard to she-male, I have to conclude that we have differing experiences with the word. My community has a show that we do called “Call Me She-Male,” which is a play-on-words from the opening lines of Moby Dick (Call me Ishmael). It is a drag performance piece. I cannot speak for your community. I can only speak from my experiences, so I imagine that is where there is a disconnect in our history with the term.

              Also, there is a key difference between RuPaul (and drag’s) uses of the words we’ve discussed and the Anne Coulter reference you make. RuPaul’s uses of the words are meant to be positive. Coulter’s are clearly insults. That is why saying “it’s so gay” is still not okay, because the use of the word is in a demeaning, insulting connotation. As I said earlier, drag queens use the word tranny to refer to our friends, just like we call them girl, bitch, cunt, kween, mama, et cetera. It is used with affection, not hate. With friendship, not insult.

              I know there is so much that we do not understand about each other’s cultures, and I truly believe that issues like this are due to a lack of conversation between us. Hopefully, if we facilitate more conversation with the frame-of-mind that our intention is not to be hurtful, offensive, or attacking, we can come to learn more about the beautiful diversity that is LGBT.

            • DonnaL

              I think one problem is that the audience for RPDR goes way beyond the gay community and trans community (as much as those two communities intersect in the first place). The show is on national TV, and a lot of people who see it have no idea (if they care at all) that those words are so hurtful to so many people, and have been used against so many people in such a horrible way, and think that because they’re used on national TV, it’s OK to apply them in any context. Not only in the context you’re discussing. And that’s not OK.

        • http://unbornunicorn.wordpress.com/ Amanda Gun

          Yeah, I’m just like… I thought She-Mail was a cute play on words and at first I was a bit like “oh, seems a bit unnecessary to remove it, I’m pretty sure it’s tongue in cheek”. However, seeing all these bitter people being like “OMG IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME! MY ENJOYMENT OF THIS SHOW HAS BEEN DIMINISHED A THOUSANDFOLD!” is just so embarrassing I can’t take it. Seriously, the show is significantly different to you because 1.5 seconds of audio was cut? Okay then.

          • Zaftiguana

            Right. My other favorite is getting mad at the whole trans community about it while saying that the whole reason the joke was okay was because of being perfect and unquestionable allies to the trans community.

          • Raspberry2012

            That’s exactly what I found really embarrassing. I don’t mind that they figured, “Ok, it’s a hurtful phrase to some, and it doesn’t hurt our show at all to just remove it.” Obviously, it was an issue or it wouldn’t have gotten so much attention. And if a group is feeling hurt and marginalized by it, I don’t have a problem with them losing the phrase. Quite frankly, as a straight woman, I have no horse in this race. I’m an ally, but I sure as hell would never go around saying, “Oh, you’re being too sensitive! Have a sense of humor!” If it’s something that’s hurtful, then lose it. But what really horrified me was the number of people screaming about how their enjoyment of the show was ruined by the loss of this phrase. It’s a fucking intro to a mini-challenge – if that’s the main thing a person enjoys about this show, then I just don’t know what to think about that.

          • pdquick

            I may have overstated my case in an earlier post, but we’re talking about a drag show. I falsely assumed that people would appreciate satire. Never a safe bet.

        • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

          This became an issue because two groups of people – drag queens and trans people – claimed ownership of the words. One group took a humorous “reclaim the slur” approach and the other group didn’t agree with that. But the anger came because neither group appreciated the other group telling them what language they could use to define themselves.

          • Zaftiguana

            Sure, and they both have a point, both in terms of etymology and the fact that John Q. Douchebag who’s actually throwing these terms around in the pejorative isn’t making fine distinctions like,”Hmm, this drag queen is actually statistically likely to be a cis male, so I do not believe I will call her a tranny.” And in cases where it’s a question of people being policed about how they can identify themselves or something similar, it gets rightly sticky. But I appreciate that in a case where it was just about a goofy pun on a reality show spinning of a bit from another reality show, the producers apparently thought, hey, not worth it. So it’s hard to see people taking umbrage with the trans community when it really seems to be a less a case of the PC Police or whatever and more a case of…manners? Healthy priorities? Etc.?

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              I kind of don’t understand your point. The show did right by the trans community. If we want to start talking about rude reactions on the internet we’ll be here all day and we’ll wind up pointing out that both sides had people who said really nasty things. The point is, a change was made and it was the right one.

            • Zaftiguana

              Right, but I’m only talking with/about the people in this thread here (the one who thinks comedy is dead now without she-male puns notwithstanding, because I can’t even with that this early in the morning). I’m sure you’re 100% right that there’s just as much bullshit on the opposite side elsewhere. But not here, so yay Bitter Kittens? 50% fewer flavors of unnecessary internet drama than the rest of the lowly interwebz? And hopefully I didn’t just jinx us?

              But yeah, full agreement that they did the right thing and that should be that.

          • Chevalle

            I think, ultimately, that it was the right thing to do. I don’t really think anything in the show is lost by dropping the “She-Mail” pun. That’s not seeing the forest for the trees. I think it’s the context in which the change occurs and what it means in the bigger picture that matters.

            You’re definitely right about the source of the friction in the community in this particular instance. The particular, though, is that the drag community is being told that we can’t use a word for *each other* that we identify with. If a transgender individual does not want to be called that word, I will absolutely respect that. I completely understand, and I would not cross that line. That isn’t what is happening, though. We’re not using a word they find offensive and applying it to them. That would be wrong. We’re using a word we find endearing and applying it to each other.

            • DonnaL

              Again, I don’t believe for a moment that that’s really true of “she-male.”

    • Steve Ek

      Chaz may very well be more comfortable now, and Grandma is what all women in their late 80′s should aspire to, but I found them both rather dour and humorless for the venue. You’re on RuPaul’s Drag Race. Lighten up for God’s sake. Also, I think the reason Adore and Jocelyn are still there and Trinity was sashayed boils down to charisma. As sweet and talented as she was, that was her limit. She developed some nerve along the way (thanks in part to the tutelage of the supposed bitch Bianca) but the charisma was just not there. Adore and Jocelyn have charisma. There is a reason Ru’s criteria start with a C.

      • DinahR

        I also thought they were a bad choice. Chaz especially was tough on people who are not professional talk show hosts. They wanted it kept light and fluffy? Why didn’t they respond that way? The Depression and Transgender issues aren’t naturally lighthearted — they CAN be, but it’s up to the guests to set that tone, not the interviewer. As for Joslyn… yikes! I did cringe and she should not have done it, but when I realized this topic had been covered in their own documentary it made more sense. Still can’t believe she did!

        Compare them to Tori Spelling also had some clunker interviewers, but she took it in good stride.

      • understateddiva

        I felt bad for the queens who misinterpreted the challenge and tried to give a campy interview. Some of them seemed to think they were meeting some sort of Betty White-like lady who would be all about bawdy humor and double entendre. I thought the guests, especially Georgia, were funny in a quiet, droll way, but no one adjusted fast enough to their tone.

      • Cambel

        It’s also weird, they didn’t want a campy interview, but then complained when somebody actually asked a serious question. So in other words they wanted a complete non-interview fluff piece but it couldn’t be funny.

    • http://cheeriosnotapplejacks.tumblr.com zob rombie

      Bummed out that Trinity is gone (she grew on me so much and then poof bye) and Joslyn seems to be losing momentum as a dark horse. I agree with TLo that Joslyn has to turn it out or she’s easy fodder for next week. The silver lining (for me) to this is that since so many of the younger queens with “potential” are getting weeded out it is abundantly clear that Adore is going to be the representative of younger drag aesthetics in the final three. As for who else rounds out that trio I honestly cannot say at this point. Bianca seems like a shoo-in but nothing’s a given (I did think her runway this week is the closest to versatility in look she’s displayed). The last thing I want to bring up in this thoughtdrop is De La. She wore a fly costume and suddenly it was all okay for the judges? I thought she had to have more of an arc than that but I guess she’s sufficiently proved herself for now in their eyes. I thought it was a gutsy look but I thought it went straight to genre fiction costume which is her fallback when she doesn’t default to the vintage period piece schtick, so I just wasn’t as impressed. I also thought Courtney’s look was amazing in concept but needed a few execution tweaks on the fit and makeup.

      • http://cheeriosnotapplejacks.tumblr.com zob rombie

        Afterthought: Trinity and Milk have my votes for being S6′s representatives for All Stars 2, so far none of the other eliminated queens even register as having something specific in them that deserves to be further developed. Of course, we don’t know which of the rest of the S6 queens will be eligible for All-Stars 2 in the end, but about half the season’s cast is already on the voting board so there’s no reason to wait to start gunning for your favorites from any given season (I could rant about who from other seasons I think should make all-stars 2 but no that’s another time).

    • Stubenville

      I was sad to see Trinity sashay – the girl has really improved over the last couple of episodes and her runway looks are almost always flawless. I wish Ru had cut Darienne or Jocelyn loose instead; they’re both treading water and their runway looks range from boring to trashy.

      • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

        DITTO.

    • In_Stitches

      I’m a fickle bitch; I’m already over Joslyn. To be honest, I think her funniest lines have been planned. Cup of soup felt a little too contrived for me. It didn’t feel natural. If it’s not, if it’s planned, that’s great, but the intelligence behind those kind of moves isn’t showing anywhere else.

      • Lara

        Both people watching at my house gasped when Trinitiy was bottom over Joslyn, and I had previously been pulling for her. The past couple episodes have kinda showed me that she is not, in fact, hiding smarts or talent in those layers of bikini. She 100% deserved to be in the bottom. She screwed up both runway and challenge, where Trinity only screwed up the challenge.

        • Raspberry2012

          Exactly this, and I hate to say that, because I love Joslyn. But if there was ever a queen who deserved to be in the bottom two AND lose the LSFYL, it was her. No way was Trinity worse.

    • dumblesinwinter

      I cannot believe that Chaz let Trinity call him Chad throughout the whole interview. Why didn’t he correct her after the first time? Conspiracy theory time: I feel like Trinity wouldn’t have been in the bottom if she had just messed up the name once so the producers somehow told Chaz not to correct her.

      • somebody blonde

        The theory in my living room was that Chaz is such a Bitter Betty than he demanded that Trinity get sent home for fucking up his name. It would explain why Adore was in the bottom instead of Joslyn- Adore could give a good enough lip sync to send Trinity home, whereas I’m pretty sure Joslyn’s not capable of that.

    • t bell

      This may be off the topic but am I the only one that noticed the major beefcake at the beginning of the article? I want them all with no eliminations but not at once since I am no longer 18.

    • Jeremy Thomas Porta

      I loved Ben’s comment during Untucked about his costume, “Oh I got this at Forever 21.”

      I nearly fell out of my chair.

    • Alice Dennard

      Yeah I think part of the problem was with Chaz and Georgia. How many times have The Great Depression and abortion come up in Drag Race herstory? Not a lot? How shocking. It’s also a pretty interesting bit of baiting for the queens- interview two people related to Cher but who really don’t want to talk about Cher.

      Painful to watch but it all ended very nicely with a beautiful and classy exit by Trinity. Adore also handled the criticism maturely realizing she fucked up and needs to get better. Snaps to all you shady elephants.

    • Caity

      Adore is smarter and more self-aware than I thought she’d be at the beginning of the season (and mind you, I was a fan of hers at the beginning because she’s so goddamn charming). She flopped during the main challenge but she managed to come off as likable anyway. I also think the LSFYL was a good kick in the ass for her. She’s still one of my two favorites for the big winner along with Bianca.

      Ben’s costume was my favorite of them all. I can picture other glamorous insects, like bees and dragonflies. But a glamorous fly? Genius. And she gave Courtney some stiff competition with the talk show.

      I would have sent Joslyn home. I like her, but I thought Trinity’s look was so fucking fabulous that it merited a get-out-of-jail card.

    • http://www.ueberdesuper.net/ Ueber de Super

      Worst episode of the season so far, except for the mini challenge. Reasons:
      1) Chaz Bono. He is a glum bore. He does not get more “interesting” by his transition. What talent does he actually have?
      2) The editors seem to have forgotten most of the storylines. The Bianca/Trinity drag mother plot went nowhere because in this episode there was not one scene in which they interacted. Courtney/Josyln: also went nowhere. Ben/Darienne: at least that was picked on on Untucked… by Trinity and Bianca.
      3) There seems to be almost no chemistry between the remaining queens. Maybe it is the editing as well, but they all seem to ignore each other and only care for their own issues. Maybe in the remaining episodes they will all just talk to themselves à la Ben de la Creme.
      4) Santino has become a nonentity, and Michelle is not always as charming as she could be.
      Still, it is the best show on tv at the moment. And the she-mail thing is ludicrous. I hope Rupaul does not throw in the towel, he seems to be upset about it.

      • http://cheeriosnotapplejacks.tumblr.com zob rombie

        I don’t think it’s a matter of strictly talent with Chaz, it’s a matter of experience (including a lot of hardship) and his being a spokesperson for a community. I do think he was pretty boring in this episode, but that’s a matter of personality. It has nothing to do with his transition being “interesting” (that would sensationalize it), it’s about him representing yet another facet of the LGBTQetc community on the show. In a RuPaul episode about an interview challenge, he makes total sense as a choice because he’s a positive figure in the trans* community, which is woefully underrepresented/misrepresented in media today (as evidenced by the She-Mail issue caused ultimately by a general societal ignorance of the language and culture surrounding both trans* people and drag performers).

        • http://www.ueberdesuper.net/ Ueber de Super

          Do you really believe he would have been invited to the show if he was not Chers son? If you want representatives of the transgender section of the LGBT community, there are other people that come to mind. Candis Cayne, Lady J, etc. And the She-Mail issue… sorry, but she-mail is not shemale, and I think it is a matter of context whether a word is derogative or not. In this context it was a play with words, exactly like shelarious, herstory or shemergeny.

          • http://cheeriosnotapplejacks.tumblr.com zob rombie

            Well, no, but if he wasn’t the son of someone famous he wouldn’t have had his transitioning (and everything leading up to that point) scrutinized by the public eye either, so if he wasn’t Cher’s son he would have lost his other “reason” I proposed for being on the show anyways. It doesn’t have to be “educational” and we all know that’s not the show’s goal, that doesn’t mean there isn’t thought behind decisions like having Chaz on the show. He just wasn’t entertaining as a person so his judging stint felt incongruous and awkward because he didn’t gel with the camp elements you were referring to.

        • Cambel

          Also, Chaz considers himself a hetrosexual man at this point. Not the usual judge for a drag show.

          • http://cheeriosnotapplejacks.tumblr.com zob rombie

            True, it is atypical for the show in that sense, I hadn’t thought about that since I was thinking about gender identity rather than orientation.

      • Cambel

        By Michelle not being charming do you mean that she is irritating and acts as if her job is so difficult? Ugh, the judges this season have been horrible, frankly I would rather have them bring in Leah Rimini or Bring back Merel Ginsburg.

        • http://www.ueberdesuper.net/ Ueber de Super

          Depends on who you compare her with. I think compared to Santino she is actually much wittier and has better one-liners. I think Merle did not have the same chemistry with Rupaul that Michelle has.

    • Geoff Dankert

      In the moments after the episode aired, I shared the opinion that Joslyn deserved to be in the bottom two, both for her car crash of a runway look and an interview that turned into Must-Flee TV. However, I came around. Trinity really did boot that challenge (and in the world of “real” television, blowing the subject’s name is worse than asking bad or inappropriate questions), and that may have been enough to convince Ru that she had seen the best that Trinity could deliver and it was time to send her home. In other news, Courtney appears to have figured out that they’re not just going to hand her the damned thing and she might have to DO something, which is nice. I absolutely agree that the meter is running for both Joslyn and Darienne; neither of them can win, and I think they both know it, and it’s a matter of how they want to go out: working hard and getting better (Joslyn, bless her pointy little head) or as bitchily as possible.

    • DinahR

      Regarding Trinity v Adore. Trinity deserved bottom 2 for the challenge over Joslyn for the same reason Adore did. Both of them have been told *many* times to prepare, prepare, prepare for these challenges and they just seem incapable of grasping what that actually means. Joslyn did prepare something… egads!… but she did clearly have a direction, did her homework, and was very familiar with who her guests were.

      I think Ru is keeping Adore and Josyn around simply because she’s not done teaching them and thinks they can still be learning from her.

      But Trinity… I will miss her, but I’m not sad for her. Because she killed that lip sync (sorry Adore) and if all things were equal she would have send Adore home. I’m so glad Trinity went home on a high note she was rightfully proud of. Yes, she made a big mistake with ‘Chad’ – but it’s not the *same* mistake she’s been struggling with (her confidence). So Trinity leaves like a classy lady, one we still want to see more of. I hope this is reflected in her professional success and good for her!

    • MandaK

      I wish Jocelyn would stop wearing that same damn rhinestone necklace in every episode. Although it has been incorporated into my Drag Race drinking game, so there’s that to look forward to.

    • Cambel

      I didn’t have as much of a problem with Joslyn’s interview. Frankly I get tired of people writing books and putting it all out there then not wanting to talk about it. Hey, you came on the show to promote your book and your CD, so don’t get too pissy when people ask you about something that was a big revelation in your book.

    • shehungthemoon

      Maybe it was just the costume, but Courtney’s tuck looked quite a bit meatier to me than Joslyn’s.

    • http://www.JohnVasko.com jvasko

      Tom & Lorenzo, Couldn’t agree with you more on Logo creating shows like Hung Man and Snatch Game. I tweeted this to @logotv!

    • Daktari100

      Regarding the first part of this great recap, about LOGO being the “only real attempt at gay-specific cable marketing and programming,” that has recently changed. My cable provider, Comcast, is now offering HereTV, which seems to be another attempt at it and might give LOGO the motivation they need to step up their game.

      • Cambel

        Here has been around for a while and Logo has continued to get less and less gay. I hope you’re right, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • JaCory Deon

      IMHO none of them really excelled at the main challenge though Courtney and Ben did well enough. Courtney, however, is coasting by and prior to tonight has been blown out of the water by Trinity in the runway department. As far as the lipsync, they both did well enough to stay but unless I’m mistaken, no queen on this show has had to lipsync three times and come back. Trinity went out the right way even if it should’ve been Jocelyn on the bottom.

      Now a word about judging: it is very random and arbitrary. Ben is suddenly “real” because, um, what? Bianca is never read for what is basically the same dress in different colors while they give Jocelyn a hard time about all the bikinis? Michelle is as inconsistent as she is grating…can they please bring Merle to replace her S7! Or better yet, add Lady Bunny to place her (someone with real wit, humor, and style). Santino adds nothing to the panel, no insight, no wit, nothing but a washed out visage on the tv. Paula Abdul was more qualified than both Chad and Cher’s mom to judge this sort of reality tv…Chaz added what he always does (nothing). Cher’s mom seems nice enough though. I don’t know, at this point none of them are knocking it out of the park for me.

      • Sif

        Totally agree. The show needs better judges

        • DonnaL

          Have they ever had another drag queen (in drag) on the judging panel? I don’t remember one. Perhaps Ru likes the spotlight on her alone!

          • Cambel

            Get rid of Michelle and bring on Lipsynca, Coco Peru, Lady Bunny etc… Why in the world should some angry straight woman who thinks a boob dress and spikes is the height of fashion be judging drag queen?

            • columbinnati

              They’ll never get rid of Michelle.

      • somebody blonde

        I’d want Billy B to replace Santino. He was a great judge, plus it makes sense to have a makeup artist on the panel anyway.

        • columbinnati

          Hmmmm, interesting idea

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      I don’t see a visit to my house on there!!
      :(

    • Chevalle

      You make a really good point about the medium in which this specific instance occurs. I agree that since Drag Race has a media spotlight, it should err on the side of caution with regard to things like this. Still, the conversation goes beyond Drag Race, because this is a reflection of what is happening in our community.

      The She-Mail thing is not the heart of the issue, but rather a symptom of the bigger picture. I’m sure they’ll have a clever replacement whipped up for next season.

    • Alex Gabriel

      I thought Trinity and Adore were about even in the lipsync. But I also think there’s a certain de facto handicap you gain the more you lipsync, so that if you and your opponent are equally good, you’re still likelier to go. I don’t object to that – it’s what keeps the Alyssa Edwards “suck at everything except the lipsync” strategy from dominating.

    • BobStPaul

      I certainly didn’t think that Courtney was the clear winner. In fact, I’d probably have given it to Ben even though it was close enough that I didn’t mind it being given to Courtney. Courtney’s wings were spectacular but aside from that there wasn’t a whole lot to praise about either the rest of her costume or her make-up. I was sorry to see Trinity in the bottom 2 even though she bombed the interview. Joslyn’s runway looks, however, have been and continue to be tacky and boring and for that reason I’d have had her in the bottom and going home this week. At least Trinity’s runway looks have been very consistently good.

      • columbinnati

        Joslyn and Trinity are both showgirls.

    • bejopu

      Sorry but an angel is not an animal.

      And what a sad little main challenge – when the highlight is three human beings having a half-way normal conversation! I reckon the producers must have been kicking themselves after the first few contestants when they realized their idea of ‘DRAG QUEEN CHAT SHOW’ was falling flat (especially once Bianca found nowhere to go with it)

      • columbinnati

        A drag queen chat show would probably be as vapid as the Wendy Williams show

    • http://ediblecville.blogspot.com Libby

      Joslyn Fox should’ve gone home. Period.

      • Michelle Gennari

        Agreed – 100%

      • Cambel

        Her chat interview was still better than Trinity’s and Adore’s. She asked a question that made the woman uncomfortable, but the flow was still better and she didn’t lose it like Adore did and not know the correct name like Trinity did.

        The biggest surprised was that asking somebody a question they wrote about extensively in a book was somehow offensive. If you don’t want to be asked about it, don’t put it in your book. My guess is, Joslyn or Darienne goes home next week.

        • columbinnati

          Oprah can ask you a serious question about abortion, not a drag queen.

          • Cambel

            Again, don’t put it in your book and then act like it was offensive to be asked. And frankly with all the hair and make-up most talk show hosts are drag queens anyway.

        • somebody blonde

          It’s debatable whether her interview was worse than Adore or Trinity’s, but let’s just pretend that we agree that she wasn’t as bad. Her runway was AWFUL. How can a person come out onto the stage with a silver bathrobe and a black fungus on her pubic mound? And she didn’t even fit the theme! Plus she’s never really had a great runway look- she’s had a couple decent ones, but never a really nice one.

          • Cambel

            Well come on, we all know what goes on with Drag Race. RuPaul picks who she wants in the finals or who she wants to win, she is just more subtle about it then she was during the first two seasons.

            • somebody blonde

              Oh, I know. It’s just infuriating when Ru’s preferences make no goddamn sense. Because Joslyn Fox had “sashay” written all over her this episode, and then she was safe.

            • somebody blonde

              I definitely agree with you, but sometimes Ru’s particular taste in queens makes absolutely no sense to me. Why get rid of Trinity before Joslyn when they were both destined for the ax, in retrospect? Who knows?

    • Zaftiguana

      Right, but that’s not the show using it.

      Maybe others aren’t seeing the forest for the trees, or maybe you’re trying to turn a tree into a forest that isn’t there.

      • Chevalle

        With new articles popping up on The Advocate and Huffington Post almost daily, as well as the amount of social media attention revolving around this issue as the foundation of discussion, I’m thinking the forest’s been planted, grown, and is bearing fruit.

    • Bradio311

      HOW THE HELL DID JOSLYN NOT GO HOME?! (or at least have had to lip sync?!). There, I feel better.

      • columbinnati

        I am shocked too. Why would you ask Cher’s mom if she regrets not getting an abortion?

        • Cambel

          Why would Cher’s mom put it in the book? And she didn’t ask that, she asked if her views on abortion have changed based on having her daughter etc..

      • jjfg

        Yeah, I had Adore and Joslyn down for the lip sync and Joslyn sashaying, and I think it should have gone that way. Still, EPIC lip sync by Adore and Trinity.

    • Alxie

      Chiming in late here, but I found the beginning of this episode really heartwarming. They all acknowledged that LaGanja was a hot mess but seemed genuinely sorry about it. At this point (especially without LaGanja’s fakey/attention whoring presence) they come across as a group of queens who have become close and really care about each other. It was sweet.

    • columbinnati

      Adore served that lip-synch. She was better than Trinity from what I saw.

    • somebody blonde

      Y’know, maybe instead of just “Hung Man”, they could do a gay send-up of many game shows. They could have teams of two, competing in Hung Man, the Newlywed Game, Family Feud-style questions, and then the Price is Right at the end. Each of these would be 5-minute segments, and whichever pair won at the end would go home with some cash money and a gay cruise.