VARIETY Cover: Jean Smart and Hannah Einbinder on the Final Season of HACKS

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In a new cover story for VARIETY, Jean Smart and Hannah Einbinder speak with Executive Editor, TV Michael Schneider on the final season of HACKS, the emotional last scenes, the relationship between Deborah and Ava, the challenges faced by Smart, how the show has impacted Einbinder’s career, and more. 

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Smart on shooting the final scene of “Hacks”:

“The last shot of us was in this long room with huge, high ceilings, and just us on a bench about the size of a couch. We were lying flat on our backs staring at the ceiling, with these 40-foot-high Dutch masters paintings, and ad-libbing. We were just making up crazy shit. It was fun to end it that way.”

Smart on not inquiring with showrunners on how “Hacks” would end:

“I never asked them in all these years how the show was gonna end,” Smart says. “I wanted to

be surprised, but then when I found out, at first I was concerned — and a little taken aback. But the more  thought about it, I thought, ‘OK, I can see that.’ And then there’s a twist at the end. But I won’t spoil it.”

Einbinder on the final American scene of “Hacks”:

“The entire crew was just standing behind the camera watching us, like every department, in a way that’s not typical,” Einbinder recalls later. “It was almost eerie and sad and beautiful and familial. It’s seared into my brain forever.”

Smart on how dark things got between her and Einbinder’s characters over the first four seasons:

“I was afraid people would be turned off by it. Deborah got her white whale, and whatever that thing is that drives Deborah Vance — that demon inside her of needing respect. She was willing to sacrifice just about anything to get that.”

Einbinder on the fifth season of “Hacks” and her ranking of the seasons:

“We go into the year on the same team, totally not adversarial at all like the past,” says Einbinder —

who, for the record, ranks the seasons this way: “I’m a 5-3-1-4-2 girl.”

Smart on her teenage son watching “Hacks” while her character begins a romance with a younger man:

“Every once in a while I have to tell him, ‘Well, there’s a scene you might not love.’”

Einbinder on forming an early connection with Smart:

“The first day shooting ‘Hacks,’ I shared some- thing with Jean in passing, and I didn’t know that she had a similar experience,” Einbinder says. “We had a conversation about something that I think she wasn’t talking to anyone about, and there was an immediate sense of trust between us. We didn’t really have a sense yet of what the show would be, how much of our life the show would be. We were just focusing on doing a good job and making the show day by day. But our mutual vulnerability created a really solid

foundation of love and respect.”

Smart on turning to Einbinder after the unexpected passing of her husband in 2021:

“I really turned to her for comfort and support, and she was amazing,” Smart says of her co-star. “I mean, she’s very wise.”

Smart on finishing the season of “Hacks” when her husband passed away:

“I was just still kind of in shock,” she says, remembering it now. “I said, ‘Let’s just do it.’ The only the day that got me was when we shot Ava’s father’s funeral. I suddenly thought, ‘I can’t do a funeral scene — I can’t.’ I’m not prone to anxiety at all, but that was not a pleasant day.”

Smart on not feeling great four days after shooting a scene with a keg stand:

“I thought, ‘You haven’t seen your cardiologist in a long time. Don’t be stupid. Your kids just lost their dad!’ So I left her a message, since it was after hours. I said, ‘I know I probably can’t get in to see you this week, but maybe I should do a stress test or something.’ Her service called back instantly and said, ‘Yeah, you’re gonna go to the nearest emergency room right now!’”

Einbinder on Smart’s clumsiness and breaking her knee during “Call Me Izzy” on Broadway:

“Oh my God, I was in town to see the show, and she fucking broke her knee that day. Are you kidding me? I’m always giving her grief. Like, sister, watch where you’re freaking going!”

Einbinder on the effect “Hacks” has had on her career:

“I thought I was going to be a stand-up comedian — that was my whole plan,” Einbinder says. “But collaborative, comedic work has been so rewarding. I have come into myself. I was 24 when I got cast. I’m 30 now. I’ve walked through fire to build my self-esteem during this time. I know who I am in this world. The crew of ‘Hacks’ are like my blood relatives. They have changed my life.”

[Photo Credit: Sami Drasin for Variety]

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