Kristen Stewart at the Chanel Fall 2014 Couture Show

Posted on July 08, 2014

Clearly, Kristen was all, “Damn, those bitches at the Dior show are getting to wear ALL the fucked up shit. I gotta snag me some of that.” Imaginary Kristen talks like a frat bro. We don’t know why.

Anyway, feeling the need, like any star would, to grab the spotlight and yank it in her direction, Kristen turned to Uncle Karl, batted her eyes (to the best of her ability) and asked him for the weirdest garment he could think of.

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And that’s the story of how the world’s first tripe pants were made.

So dazzled are we by this new and exciting direction both for fashion and for butchery, that we can’t really process the fact that she cut up one of our old 2xist undershirts and paired it with jewelry she made out of tin foil. We keep staring at the hair to come up with the appropriate bit o’ snark, but to be honest, we don’t mind it. It’s very “3rd year film major.”

And if you don’t know what tripe is, brace yourself before you google pictures. Start with the definition and then decide if you want to go further.




[Photo Credit:, CHP/FAMEFLYNET PICTURES, Chanel]

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  • RussellH88

    This is like an indie-hipster uber-ironic remake of I Dream Of Jeannie

    • Wink

      I can hear the theme song playing now.

    • BayTampaBay

      I think she looks good and is really working it. She’s young and can get away with it.

  • Kent Roby

    Harem Scare’em

    • Constant Reader

      LOL! You are on a roll lately!

  • ChaCha_70

    Tripe pants!!!!!! hahahahahahhahahahhahaha!

    • myandyleigh

      Not just tripe pants, but harem tripe pants. With attached girdle. Awesome.

    • Mrs. C

      And now I’m craving menudo.

  • Danielle

    Of course.

  • sundaynightaddict

    I’m digging the hair and the rare smile. The rest of it can burn in hell, obviously.

    • @Biting Panda

      Absolutely. Love the cut, love the genuine aura of joy, love her face. The rest is a shit show for the ages.

      • Kamilaa

        I agree. She looks happier than I’ve seen her since . . . well, pretty much ever, and the hair really does suit her.

        And as an aside, thank you, gentlemen, for suggesting I go with the definition before I toddled over to the images page. *twitch*

        • misstressofsylar

          Oh. I didn’t realize tripe isn’t that well known. In the tropics (or at least my country), we eat that almost on a daily basis. And call it “towel”.

          • what not

            Tripe is my favorite addition to pho. Mmmm.

  • Paigealicious


  • cmb92191

    tripe pants! To be fair, I saw a similar black pair last week at the hairdressers.

  • Rhonda Shore

    She is embracing the fug and making it ironic.

  • gabbilevy

    Who knew Uncle Karl got his inspiration from the (admittedly very high-end) deli counter. Hey, sometimes ideas are running a little dry.

    Pants fuckery aside, Kristen: that hair. Inexcusable. Even for you.

    • kimmeister

      Charcuterie: The Collection.

      • demidaemon

        Don’t let Gaga know about it.

        • Constant Reader

          OH GOD NO.

  • hughman


    • greymain

      LOVE it!!!!

    • Eclectic Mayhem

      heh – yes! So essentially Unkle Karl is attempting something JPG did better 20 odd years ago…

    • StellaZafella

      I re-watched that movie (The Fifth Element) this weekend…you just made me snort half my iced tea up my nose – now I’m laughing with brain freeze!

    • MilaXX


  • empath

    tripe — such nice South Philly uncles!! hmmm… design inspired by Italian Market entrails… kind of original. Well, she looks comfortable, which is a positive thing, weird though it may be.

  • Glam Dixie

    She stole Rhianna’s outfit.

  • Amelia Ross

    I would actually love this if her hair didn’t look like fried chicken

    • DebbieLovesShoes

      *gasp* hahahaha

  • anneshirley

    Tripe pants over tighty-whities.

    • H2olovngrl

      That’s a whole tighty-whitey outfit, in my opinion! It begs the question, “who would want to make a whole outfit of of my husband’s old Fruit of the Looms??”

      • evave2

        I agree, I thought the solid part of the pants looked like men’s underwear. But she has a toned stomach, that’s for sure.

  • Carleenml

    I see poochy crotch. I just can’t unsee it. Bulgy crotch? I’m at a loss for adjectives right now.

    • Glam Dixie

      Meaty tuck?

      • Carleenml

        I’m in Massachusetts and I can envision Provincetown drag queens gathering up their crochet hooks and macrame yarn.

    • higgledypiggledy

      The Fug Girls call that polterwang. I’m not sure this is a genuine case of polterwang, but even to ask the question is to demonstrate that We Have A Problem Here.

      • Carleenml

        I think they also coined “doirmat” – which is my new favorite word evuh.

        • kimmeister

          Never heard that one. What does it mean???

          • Carleenml

            as in JLaw is a diormat.

          • kimmeister

            Oh yes, that makes more sense than “doirmat.” 🙂

          • Carleenml


      • demidaemon

        I knew there was a better word for it than “faux penis.”

    • demidaemon

      I am glad someone else was seeing the faux penis. Now I know I’m not crazy.

  • Stacy C

    Sheer McHammer pants? NO!

    • 3boysful

      The really bad part is that I was scrolling down thinking, “this is so bad it cannot get worse,” and THEN I got to the cuffs.

  • Jennifer Bober

    Tripe…I hadn’t gone there, but now I can’t un-see it!

    • GeoDiva

      Me either… but it makes perfect sense!

      • Jennifer Bober

        It does…and I happen to love tripe. It’s just that it belongs in a soup, or served braised over pasta.

  • msdamselfly

    Her makeup and hair look good. But I am embarrassed for her in those pants. The crotch is so attention-getting.

  • higgledypiggledy


    And her head looks terrible. The jewelry is actually the best part. Throw those silvery tribal ropes over a tee with some kind of punk feel, some skinnies, and Chuck Taylors (or pointy-toe pumps), and you have got a genuine K-Stew look going. But only if you ditch that Avon-lady lipstick.

  • NMMagpie

    Tripe Pants is so much better a thought than mine. They still look like some wonky Spanx, though.

  • JauntyJohn

    “Hey! Let’s design thermal underwear for ‘I Dream of Jeannie’ cosplay!” said no one EVER.

    • formerlyAnon


  • I really love this haircut for her. Not so certain on the colour, I would much rather this in her natural hair shade. But it is summer, so this is kicky and cute even with the “I was dying my hair one colour but it turned out multicoloured as a surprise to myself” hair colour. 🙂

    I cannot sign off on the here is my crotch take special notice of it granny panties.

    • @Biting Panda

      It is safe to say I rarely, if ever, participate in trends. I am so tickled that I opted for the playful, colorful, bob in April. It is the first time in eons that I have had anything to seek out for inspirational, playful, ideas in magazines and tv screens.

  • schadenfreudelicious

    Her crotch/abdomen area looks like she is wearing those mesh hospital panties they give you post baby delivery..

    • Eclectic Mayhem

      *suffers flashback to the whole post-natal thing*

      • schadenfreudelicious

        I hear you 🙂

      • FibonacciSequins


      • EveEve

        *aaaand…. passes out*

      • SugarSnap108

        *decides to never procreate*

        • schadenfreudelicious

          Yeah, it’s one of those things no one tells you about….

          • CakesOnAPlane

            why do I feel like there are so many more of those??

    • dizzyedge

      This was my thought exactly!

      • schadenfreudelicious

        It’s hard to forget those beauties 😉

        • FibonacciSequins

          I had that memory suppressed until I read your post. You nailed it!

    • MissusBee

      My first first thought. Welcome to motherhood! Here’s something ugly to put on your genitals! Because it’s not about you anymore!

    • 3boysful

      THAT’S what I was trying to think of! You nailed it.

    • @Biting Panda

      AND now I’m dead. How did I not see that right off? Sweet Jesus.

  • Anna

    Huh, when did she get the Clare Arnold haircut? And if you’re wearing Chanel, even if it is tripe, shouldn’t you spring for actual hair dye instead of orange-flavour Kool-Aid?

  • Leah Elzinga

    Miley Cyrus is sooo jelly right now.

  • Denise Rambo

    Hey … she’s actually SMILING in one of these pictures. That’s GOT to be a mistake.

    • demidaemon

      Of course she’s smiling. Everyone around her is probably trying to gouge out their eyes.

  • smayer

    To quote Kors: “The crotch on those pants is insane!”

  • Eclectic Mayhem

    The undies (underwear) have somehow ended up looking like an athletic support.

    • Carleenml

      what the granny panty revolution has wrought. we tried to warn them.

    • rh33

      I was thinking a truss-adult diaper combo.

  • aahlife

    These tripe pants are bringing back childhood memories. Tripe, a prime ingredient of menudo. Although it is a traditional Sunday morning hangover remedy, the entire family enjoyed it. Those days are over for vegan me.

    • Snailstsichr

      If the only meat option was tripe, I’d totally go vegan.

  • teensmom99

    Re hair: it’s already become too common in high schools. No sled respecting art students would have this hair any more. (Yes I’m a suburban mom reporting fr the hs trenches). Next!

  • Terri Terri

    I like the make-up, that’s it. The hair is sorta cute on her. Even though it looks like she went to Supercuts and said “I’m in a hurry!”

  • Hipster nursing home support wear….UGLY

  • colleenjanel

    Those pants make her look like she’s in the beginning stages of muffin top and FUPA development.

  • FrigidDiva

    At least it’s season appropriate. I mean you must get some great ventilation going to your nether regions in those pants.

  • alyce1213

    Her bottom half is everything that women should avoid.

  • Angela

    She looks like she is wearing pull-up diapers under her tripe pants. I guess they will come in handy if there is a long line for the ladies’ room.

  • SAA

    The cut suits her face/look… but those pants and that jewelry are God awful. There’s a pic of her out there from behind – not only are they doing bad things to her crotch, they’re also riding up her a#$. NAGL.

  • Kimberlini

    Wish I could have been there when you two came up with this post. Hysterical!

  • smh4748

    I’m laughing too, Kristin. You can decide if it’s with you or… not.

  • TerryMarie

    I actually like those necklaces, especially the longer one without the pendant.

  • Gatto Nero

    Bare midriff + granny panties + harem pants + ombre hair = WTF.
    Though tripe is really good if prepared well.

  • NBG

    Did everyone attending the Chanel show conspire with each other to troll the world?

    I predict we will be seeing this again on a certain year end list

  • marlie

    So… I like her hair CUT. I think. The color is totally – ‘did it in my sink in the dorm,’ and the clothes? I have no words.

    ETA: I just realized what her pants remind me of… that mesh-like stuff they sometimes use in the grocery store to protect fruit from getting bruised.

    • Fordzo a.k.a. Fancy Mukluks

      Not even the dorm sink, where at least 15 other people would help with the process. This is gas station bathroom work.

    • MilaXX

      Fifth Element hair

    • Accurate knowledge is good

      It was for a movie she just finished filming, I’m sure it is not healthy to keep coloring your hair that mush and she is going to start filming again in a month — I’m sure the hair person on the film set knew just what and how to do it the right way.

  • d4divine

    Tripe…the perfect description TLo!

  • OffToSeeHim

    I like it, and especially the “Please, no pictures” pose. Bitch, you are wearing FISHNET HAREM PANTS. People are going to take your picture. I do think it’s cute and hip, I like it even better with the sweater though.

    • Fordzo a.k.a. Fancy Mukluks

      The pants look like they’d be fun to wear. That waistband looks super comfy. I want a pair for lounging.

  • Bless you, Sirs T&Lo, for the Google warning. One night while making a logo, I Googled “Midge” without the specification of “Barbie” or “Doll”. It is now my Soylent Green.

  • Fordzo a.k.a. Fancy Mukluks

    I’d cut a bitch for that longer necklace. I love me some Bali beads.

  • SewingSiren

    Does anybody remember before adhesive Kotex they had these special panties you wore? I’m betting Kristen doesn’t , or she would be wearing them on so high above the top of her groovy hip hugging harem pants. Not cool.

  • MilaXX

    You know what? It’s ugly as all get out, but I think I like this on her. I don’t know if she trolling us or not but those fugly pants are hers and hers alone.

  • FibonacciSequins

    I can find nothing complimentary or positive to say about the tripe pants. The tripe sheer isn’t even the worst part. Terrible things are being done to her hips/crotch/butt area.

    I like the hair and makeup, although I think Kristen looks better with long hair. I predict she’ll need another cut within a week because pieces are going to start sticking out weirdly.

  • Melanie

    Before scrolling down, she looks like Madonna circa 1984/”Like a Virgin” days with her hair, belly shirt, and long necklaces.

    • FibonacciSequins

      Too bad she didn’t wear a miniskirt and lace capri tights instead of the tripe pants.

  • Joanna

    I don’t care how weird it is . . . it WORKS on her. For the first time, I dig her.

  • Beardslee

    The young woman behind her, with the teal sweater around her shoulders, is sporting more style than is Kristen in this hilariously bad and self indulgent designer getup.

  • Call me Bee

    Oh my sweet Lord on a breadstick. Is it me, or do your eyes go directly to her….um….good china? And white pumps are always ugly.

    • demidaemon

      No, it’s not you. At all.

  • Gerry Coleman

    She’s hung like a guy in a 1950s underwear ad. Who knew?

  • FancyPhilly

    God, she looks stupid. What a horrible outfit.

  • kimmeister

    For reasons I can’t explain, I’m loving the hair – both cut and color. It is her hairdo and no one else’s.

  • Nancer

    The only thing I don’t hate about this is that really genuine smile in the fourth picture down. More of this, please, Kristen! Very pretty on you.

  • DinahR

    Ew. But I do really like the pants as shown on the model with a long coat that covers the business. This really does look like wearing your undies in public. And not the cute flattering undies, either.

  • Jaeda Laurez

    You know what? I like it on her. i hate all that extra fabric at the waist- it looks like the fabric at the top of maternity pants. But the little crop top, and the pants, suit her, and pretty much her alone. If given the choice between Emma’s get up and this, I’d choose this every day.

  • bassfemme

    Hair transformation and a new colorless tatoo. Channelling her inner Miley? Finally getting to that post-breakup chop? Looks good on her. But the ensemble, not so much.

  • Clydette Wantland

    She always looks so TRASHY to me. No matter what she’s wearing.

  • Wink

    Models don’t have much choice when it comes to wearing these awful clothes; it’s their JOB. But actresses should have the guts to say, “Hell no! I will NOT wear a sleeveless belly-shirt with tripe harem pants and big white pumps! No, no, no!”

  • Oh my, that sure is a meaty tuck…especially for a gal.

  • PastryGoddess

    bitch is cray

  • Alyssa

    I really like this haircut on her…she never seemed to be the long, lush hair type to me. More of the punk cropped hair, so I think it suits her. I know the color is for a role, so I’ll let it slide for now. The “pants” are pure evil.

  • Starling

    When she has the sunglasses on, she looks like Meg Ryan in these pictures. A funhouse-clothes-version of MR, maybe, but MR all the same. Something about the smirk and the hair length(s).

  • Krista Nielsen

    I’m trying, but all I’m seeing on the bottom half looks like a very bad tuck. Michelle Visage would read her for that tuck. I can’t unsee it!

  • boweryboy

    How can she think she looks good in this? How. Can. She? Also, I think Uncle Karl has a few screws loose and it is manifested in his designs of late.
    Also also, I think tripe is kina sorta tasty depending on how it’s prepared but yeah, tripe pants for sure.

  • Liz

    It looks like she’s wearing a jock strap D:

  • MightyMarshal

    Send this shit to Rihanna.

  • SugarSnap108

    In that last shot where she’s strutting by, it works for me. In every shot where her crotch is the centerpiece, it absolutely does not.

  • Annmarie Kane

    The smile says the joke’s on us y’all.

  • Annmarie Kane

    Besides the obvious fuggary of it all I must say I’ve never seen anything as aggressively unflattering to her figure.

  • GoAwayKardash

    OMG I knew those pants reminded me of SOMETHING

  • trisker

    Howled out loud at “world’s first tripe pants”!!!! perfect description!

  • E_bee

    I feel like there should be sarcastic ellipses in the photo caption:

    Kristen Stewart attends the Chanel Fall 2014 couture show at Grand Palais in Paris, France in a Chanel Resort 2015… ensemble.

  • Shawn EH

    I Dream of Meanie.

  • dschubba

    This looks like something Jennifer Lopez rejected for the “Jenny from the Block” video.

  • nannypoo

    Omigod is this bad. The pants are not even the worst of it. She seems to have a giant package in her crotch, and that jewelry! That t-shirt! And worst of all is that hair! She used to have lots of hair which could have been pretty if it weren’t so dirty, but what the hell is this? And most fascinating of all is the fact that she is actually smiling in one of these pictures, as though she’s laughing at us.

  • susan6

    Those…are beyond granny panties. They’re….grandpa’s not-so-tighty whiteys. Seriously. That is a mesh harem pant attached to an old man’s pair of briefs. Her hair says “Multipass!” but her pants say “Get off my lawn!!!”
    My….my brain is exploding a little bit.

  • Ann VerWiebe

    That really needs the jacket. It just screams “under layer!”

    • It really needs something. I’m not convinced that granny sweater is something anyone needs.

  • Laylalola

    She reminds me here where’s she’s smiling a teeny tiny bit of Marion Cotillard, which I never noticed before. Though I’d much prefer to see Marion’s take on wearing this her own way.

  • CT14

    Is her hair for a role?

    Because that’s some messed up fug on her head. Like a squirrel died.

  • Milla Kruse

    The offalcore is really taking off. Loving the menudo/Pho ingredient trend.

  • Janet B

    Strangely not the worst thing from Dior.

  • TinyDynamo

    Those pants look like that weird mesh covering on fancy Harry & David pears. WTF?!? And yeah, that jewelry (I’m pretty sure it’s Yemeni silver, possibly a mix of Yemeni & Indian silver) is seriously fantastic. If she had on slim white cigarette pants, this look would be killer.

    • kimmeister

      Those are exactly the covers for Asian pears, you’ve nailed it.

      • TinyDynamo

        RIGHT! It’s the Asian pears. And it weirds me out on freaking pears, much less covering Kristen Stewart’s legs. Blech.

  • Alloy Jane

    That’s high school girl hair. College girls generally won’t go for a shitty hair cut if they have a bad dye job or vice versa. I suppose I don’t mind though, it fits with her “try hard” persona. I suppose if she’s wearing tripa pants her hair would be the color of a menudo-stained napkin.

  • sparkle_burnout

    I just can’t, I don’t know where to start with this. . .tower of fuckery.

  • Columbinia

    I started smiling when I got to the ankle cuffs on the harem pants. The top part looks like a pair of men’s tighty whities.

  • MichelleRafter

    I had to sign into Disqus just to say this: Dior has gone off the rails.

    • ShaoLinKitten

      Except that this is Chanel, if you can believe it.

  • PMC

    it does look like tripe. You got it exactly right.

  • Suzanne Moore

    The outfit is awful, but the jewelry reminds me of some tribal belly dance pieces.

  • crowgirl

    The pants remind me of those little styrofoam nets you get around apple-pears.

  • Mothra

    Is she trying to be Jennifer Lawrence in those pictures and outfit? And hair? Also, is she wearing a really small codpiece?

  • snarkykitten

    thanks for that mental image, TLO! Luckily(?) I already knew what tripe was, so I didn’t have to traumatize myself further…

  • MaggieSays

    It’s so ugly, I don’t hate it.

  • Carrie E S

    Made me think of caul fat more than tripe…

  • quiltrx

    I don’t like the color of the hair but I like the cut–it really suits her face and personality. I had no idea–how long has she had it?
    She looks pretty tough and very ‘her’ from the midriff up…but man it goes WTF down south!

  • JynxTheCat

    loathe everything ESP that damn hair!

  • Peeve

    “And that’s the story of how the world’s first tripe pants were made.” That! Uncontrollable giggling ensued…

  • Haley Buchanan

    Huh. I always knew what tripe was, but I’d neither seen it nor a photo of it until now. And it’s absolutely horrifying.

  • roche

    Thanks TLo for “Tripe pants”. You’re exactly right. I ate it for the first time last year, and y’know? Once is enough, though I don’t mean to slam the people who love it. But as a fabric? Just a big ol’ joke. That outfit is crap on toast. But Kristen appears game, so you’ve got to hand her that.

  • demidaemon

    I do know what tripe is, but really hoped it would not become an inspiration for fashion. Leave it to the French, I guess.

    I just wonder if anyone else is seeing a bit of faux penis in the granny panties or if it’s just a major optical illusion hallucination caused by the WTFuckery of it all.

  • Skippymom1

    And every professional hairdresser in the world just died a bit inside.

  • fromanotherplanet

    Girl, bye!

  • MoHub

    Tripe! You guys nailed it! The least she could have done was wear red velvet Turkish slippers instead of the white pumps.

    And a fez.

  • MoHub

    Project Runway Gristede’s challenge number 3: make an outfit using items solely from the butcher and deli counters.

    And I want to see someone work with beef tongue.

  • TippiH

    Emperor’s New Clothes

  • Coralie Legister

    I googled. And went further…

  • In_Stitches

    I kind of like the pants. I wish they were just mesh and on top of a neon one-piece bathing suit.

  • RedRaven617

    Anyone know anything about her necklace? I think it is pretty fabulous myself.

  • KinoEye

    “It’s very “3rd year film major.” I knew a girl in my film classes who had almost exactly the same hair. I love you guys.

  • yllas

    I’m almost embarrassed to say I like all of it. I always thought she was beautiful. I like all of it, even though I think the pants ARE goofy. It still puzzles this old broad that such geeky eyesores are regularly churned out by what I always thought were ‘classy’ fashion houses. Like, if I had a billionaire sugar daddy who said buy what you will, I would head for Dior or Chanel and expect to pick out some gorgeous, well made, timeless classics. Not ‘tripe harem pants’. Odd.

  • She’s….packing?

    • Tami from Seattle

      Maybe she thought it was a needed affectation of exposed boy-shorts.

  • rebeemoon

    Those “pant” were made to be worn with a loooong tunic over the crotch, as on the model.

  • Tami from Seattle

    How is it that she always looks like she smells something awful even when she’s smiling?

  • LibKat

    I know she and Jennifer Lawrence are supposed to be friends, but did they have to be ugly-ass haircut twinsies? And OF COURSE imaginary Kristen talks like a frat bro.

  • colorjunky

    Tripe pants, love that description!

  • TLJezebel

    Is the next trend sweetbreads skirts?

  • formerlyAnon

    “3rd year film major.”

    Yeah, that is the hair. But I like it on her, it’d go well with something that looked like she was comfortable in. Actually, this could have been that – with better jewelry and jeans. Or, really, just normal clothes, not to dressy.

    She is lovely when she smiles.

  • Melanie

    wow. she looks terrible. and irrelevant.

  • Lilithcat

    Coco is turning in her grave.

  • conniemd

    The way the granny pants show under the tripe pants, she looks like she has a packet.

  • P M

    Oh lord, the jewellery. It looks like something I’d buy at a street vendor in India.

  • frannyprof

    Do those pants(?) have a codpiece underneath? For some reason, I’m getting a “Clockwork Orange” vibe. But not in a good way…

  • I kind of want the pants. But only if they find a way to make them opaque while still having that diaphanous quality. But even sheer, I feel like they’d look delightfully cheeky as a pair of exaggerated bloomers coming out of a mini-dress (sort of like how the model is styled, basically). Kristen’s outfit… mmno.

  • lilazander

    I eat tripe (ok, I know…) and sure does look like it.

  • NinjaCate

    I really like the hair weirdly enough. I wouldn’t recommend it, but it works for her.