Georgina Haig as Elsa from “Frozen” for “Once Upon A Time”

Posted on July 18, 2014

Honestly? We’ve seen much better versions of Elsa than this – and they were all amateur cosplayers.

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This is just… bleh. It’s all right, but it kinda looks like one of those characters you see wandering around Times Square, charging for pictures; like she should have Elmo on one side of her and a cowboy in underpants on the other. It’s just not what we’d call fabulous.

When we were on our book tour, a reader asked us who our favorite Disney princess was. We’re not of that genus of homosexual known as Disney Queens. We don’t own any movies or memorabilia; neither of us have ever been to Disney World, so the question caught us a little off guard. Even so, it took us only a second before we blurted out “ELSA! Because come on, that was a total drag queen moment, amirite? She sang her way into a fabulous gown!” Our point being, of all the Disney princesses, we’d say she’s the most glamorous (we expect vigorous disagreement and debate on this point), so we expected a costume that looked a little more … upscale than this.

Then again, we always thought the costumes on this show were kind of cheap-looking. If Maleficent proved anything, it’s that you can render some astonishingly gorgeous costumes out of classic Disney characters.

 

 

 

 

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    • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ Alicia

      @International Model – now I understand.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

        Bless.

    • http://angrynerdgirl.net/ Jessi03

      Urgh. Ticky tacky. They better CG the mess out of that to make it sing.

    • MilaXX

      I’m fully expecting her to be CGI’d to the nth degree, because this… is disappointing. How does a show that’s almost a commercial for Disney make such a dull reenactment of one of their most popular characters?

      • Supernumerary

        Personally, I feel like she’s going to fit right in. With the exception of the villains by which I mean Lana Parrilla and Robert Carlyle; all others are pale initiations — every character on that show smacks of dullness.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234087433 Jen Freeman

          You are totally right about the key villians being far more interesting than the good guys. Even in Maleficent that’s true.

          Maybe Disney is secretly pro-villian.

          • fursa_saida

            In Magnificent it’s true because Magnificent has always been the most interesting character in that group (i.e. the original movie – in the story I don’t believe the fairy had a name).

          • demidaemon

            I have always been openly pro-villain.

    • http://Reneesance.etsy.com Reneesance

      I have definitely seen cosplayers with better Elsa costume, wig, and presence than this. That being said I’ve always liked Belle because I too would fall for a man who gives me a library, but I think the sassiest is Megaron from Hercules.

      • Whever

        Don’t forget Esmeralda, fearlessly fighting for her people’s rights! Considering she was almost burnt at the stake, I’d say it was a pretty gutsy way to behave.

        • sk8tfan

          In the book, she IS burnt at the stake. I’ve always been surprised Disney picked her storyline for the Disney princess treatment.

          • http://www.belesscrazy.com madge

            lol … and the little mermaid dies at the end of the real story, too, because she’s not capable of killing the prince and the OTHER princess he fell in love with (not her). if the disney movie ended with ariel dying that would be kind of awesome.

            • scoobynacks

              I thought I heard someone was trying to make that version. Would be interesting and kinda depressing. Probably for the best that Fox made Anastasia when they did. You couldn’t do that now without people going ‘well we know what happened to her, they finally found all the bodies.’ Love that animated movie. It’s a shame because Disney didn’t make it that it’s kinda off to the side. That princess was one tough cookie. On the plus side, no stupid Disney vault for Anastasia.

              Belle’s my jam. She gets to ballgown it up, and she can read whenever she wants. I, too, would fall for a man who gave me a library. Frozen’s got a lot of things going for it, but it’s overrated if we’re comparing how people are acting about it to its place in the Disney pantheon. I sat down to watch it amid all the buzz and thought it was nice, esp. the messages to girls, but not top shelf story structure. I love how ‘you’re in charge!’ is pretty much all you need to say to someone who’s not even from the kingdom to make everybody do what they say. The line of succession was pretty much 2 people and out with no regent while they were still too young to rule. I get the songs in my head from time to time so I want to give them props, but it’s no Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, etc. RIP Howard Ashman.

            • Kent Roby

              After seeing the musical of Beauty and the Beast, I told a friend: “It’s about Stockholm Syndrome and concludes with violent murder; it’s more exciting that what I expected from Disney”

            • PinkyAndNoBrain

              Though B&tB is . . . kinda overrated in my opinion too. It’s good, don’t get me wrong, but there’s just something in me that automatically rebels against a girl who decides everyone in her town is too lame to hang out with. It seemed inconsistent with her character, which hardly seemed arrogant, but why else did she just ignore everyone when clearly they were amiable toward her, even if they thought she was odd? Is she just very socially awkward (which I could actually relate to far better than this whole “she’s a perfect woman” thing everyone else keeps throwing at her)?

          • kimmeister

            I was shocked by it too. That book is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever read. I was seriously depressed for a week after completing it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234087433 Jen Freeman

        Meg is the definition of sassy. And I too would swoon for any man or beast who presented me with that library!

        I would say Elsa is the most elegant Disney princess to date.

        • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

          Of course, if you follow mythology, it’s pretty awful what happens to Megara afterwards. I wonder how many kids were scarred by following up that thread of myth…

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234087433 Jen Freeman

            I’ve read a fair share of greek myth, but I’m unfamiliar with Megara’s story actually.

            • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

              Hera strikes Hercules mad (because in the real myth, unlike the Disney movie, Hercules is another one of Zeus’s bastards that Hera hates) and while insane, he kills his and Megara’s son, and, according to some sources, Megara herself as well.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234087433 Jen Freeman

              Oh….ouch….m

      • TM

        Ah yes, I was definitely a Belle girl. (Followed closely by Mulan.) She liked to read, I liked to read. In retrospect maybe that whole “changing guys” narrative is a bit troublesome, but whatevs. (Funny enough–I think they totes addressed that in Frozen, by saying you CAN’T change people in a song. I was blown away.)

        • scoobynacks

          I didn’t see Beauty and the Beast as a changing guys narrative. She fell in love with the person he was inside before he changed physically. The beast was not a good person before. He met someone that made him want to be a better person and ultimately he decides that even if he can’t get her to love him and change him back then he’ll give love himself (so really he didn’t change for her because despite becoming this new person he was willing to let her go). It’s about loving someone for who they are and not what you can expect to get from them–he learned to not only love but be selfless and that’s when he got his “self” back. He only changed physically because the sorceress didn’t want him to get someone to fall for him superficially. She wanted him to have to earn it with being good inside. Once that was learned, he went back to how he was already.

          • oldscrumby

            Yeah but it’s just as easy to read into it a story where an abusive dickhole shapes up for a while to get what he wants and then once the honeymoon is over goes back to being an abusive dickhole, because that’s something that also happens fairly often in reality. Beauty and the Beast’s problem stem from the original fairytale. I give Disney credit for working the story in such a way that you can interpret it in a better light, even if the dark reading is still there.

            • MissusBee

              True story: my preschooler son told me this story the other day. ‘Once upon a time there was a princess who lived in a castle and a knight came and knocked down the castle and took the princess back to his house to do all the cleaning.’

              I was like, dude, I think you’ve nailed it.

            • oldscrumby

              And that right there is probably a big part of the reason I like Frozen despite how simple it is. Because princess crap saturates the culture to the extent that even if you’re not the target, you’re going to pick up on it. I’m glad that my niece is watching a movie where it’s emphasized that you can’t know you’ll really love someone after only knowing them for a day, and where the climax is a woman sacrificing herself out of love for her sister, not being rescued by her love interest. It’s a different kind of princess story.

            • NinjaCate

              Yeah. Frozen had its problems plot wise, but the feminist in me gives it a huge pass because of the underlying message that true love takes more than a day and that there are more important things that getting married. The funniest part of the movie to me is still that Kristoff can’t get over the fact that Anna wants to marry someone she just met! I think that the message actually is pretty empowering for once in a really solid way, and I can forgive a lot because of that. Plus I’m a huge Kristen Bell apologist :)

            • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

              You could read the original Snow Queen fairy tale by HCA, where the protagonist isn’t a princess and it has more than twice as many female characters as Frozen. (I’m still annoyed that they claimed that Frozen is a “loose adaptation” of the Snow Queen. BAH.)

            • oldscrumby

              I’ve read HCA’s Snow Queen, and seen the admirable adaptation the Russians did way back when. I was absolutely dreading the Frozen adaptation because they featured the guys sooo much in the trailer, so I was really quite happy with the actual film and it’s emphasis on the relationship between the sisters. Frozen is not a good adaptation of Snow Queen at all, but as its own thing it’s pretty enjoyable so I try not to dwell on the rest.

          • TM

            Oh, change was the wrong word. “Fix” is probably better. Of course I agree the dynamic was well balanced and sweetly executed in Beauty and the Beast, but as a trope it’s a bit tricky. It can be an unhealthy idea for a young girl. (The Hermione/Draco fans etc.) Dunno, as an uber good girl mom warned me against that dream.

        • conniemd

          My daughter was a total Disney princess. In fact at 28 and a public defender lawyer, she still is. Belle was always her favorite. When she was young, every Halloween I made her costumes of Disney princesses. I made her the most gorgeous Belle dress, which to this day she remembers with total fondness. You’re either a Disney princess fan or you aren’t. Back when I was a kid (50’s and 60’s) my favorite was Sleeping Beauty.

      • kmk05

        Nah, give me Mulan any day! Sassy and she has a dragon, a sword, and the best grandma.

        • fursa_saida

          YES. And I love that the movie doesn’t insist that its heroine has to be femme all the time, or that she had to present that way for a guy to fall in love with her. It’s probably the most gender-progressive of the Disney movies, at least off the top of my head! Which, I want to be clear, isn’t just a political opinion – as someone who doesn’t always want to be typically feminine and has a weakness for Girls With Words, Mulan we always going to be my favorite.

          • kmk05

            THIS x10000. She ran away from home! Impersonated a soldier! Deceived her commanding officer! Dishonored the Chinese Army! Destroyed the palace! AND SHE HAS SAVED THEM ALL (while being sarcastically and not sarcastically super-polite at all times, too!).

            My number one role model.

            • fursa_saida

              And she has such a cute relationship with her dad!!!

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234087433 Jen Freeman

              Seriously. The ‘most beautiful cherry blossom’ speech gets me teary.

          • PinkyAndNoBrain

            You know, I feel that way about Mulan . . . until the last five minutes. Then I turn the DVD off and pretend she became an advisor/warrior to the emperor and had all sorts of badass adventures (like she did in the original tale) rather than going home and getting married. Nothing wrong with marriage, of course, but . . . come on! First female employee of the emperor! Having a child on a battlefield! That would’ve been so much better than what they went with!

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234087433 Jen Freeman

              If it makes you feel better there’s a sequel and Mulan is employed as a guardian and protector of more ‘traditional’ princesses.

            • PinkyAndNoBrain

              Hmmm . . . I’ve never seen it, because after the second Hunchback of Notre Dame I swore I’d never be hurt like that again, but that does make me feel better. Thank you! :)

    • sugarkane105

      Even the hair is a disappointment.

      • MoHub

        Especially the hair.

        • sugarkane105

          I was doing my niece’s hair recently, and while I was fumbling to put up a regular, old ponytail, she asked for an “Elsa braid.” I cracked under the pressure.

          • http://stillmovingswiftly.tumblr.com/ Kate L.

            My daughter requests an Elsa braid on the regular (she is three-and-a-half, so this is SHOCKING, obviously), but only Daddy can do it right. If ABC needs an Elsa Braid Expert, I’ve got one in my living room at the moment.

            • Vtg Fashion Library

              What a great dad.

        • jilly_d

          The hair is the biggest disappointment of all. I liked “Frozen” but I’m certainly no fangurl of Elsa’s, and she’s far from my favorite Disney princess. But that pathetic braid is giving me a serious sad.

          • scoobynacks

            There are so many baby girls being named that this year. Lots of women are fangurling big time. It’s a good movie, but c’mon. I’d rather brand a child with something literary with some time on it, but that’s just me. It could end up being a name people associate with a movie like Aurora or Ariel (you see Ariel for Jewish boys but less so for girls in general without people going ‘oh like the Little Mermaid?’) but not necessarily. So many kids got named “Madison” after Splash came out, and it eventually just became a trendy name.

            • demidaemon

              Funnily enough, I’ve taught quite a few Arielles of varying ages and not once did I think “A Little Mermaid,” even though it was my favorite Disney movie from back when I was a kid.

            • christykins

              One of my best friends is named Ariel and her younger brother is named Eric. However, this was not intentional. The Little Mermaid came out about a year after her brother was born and her mother is deeply disturbed by people commenting, “That’s so cute! Just like in “The Little Mermaid!”

            • demidaemon

              All I can think of how awkward that could become. I’m sure they have gotten very tired of explaining the origin of the name choices.

            • christykins

              Oh yes. It happens less now, but still more often than one might think. It’s too bad because Ariel is a beautiful name and Eric is a very common (but still nice!) one. Mostly their family thinks it’s strange that people think that naming siblings after a famous romantic couple is cute rather than awkward or weird.

      • Christine Hart

        I think the hair is the biggest problem, she needs 5x the volume.

      • FrigidDiva

        You see better recreations on Pinterest.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234087433 Jen Freeman

        A really big disappointment. This was the time for extensions and volume.

        • prettyinmink

          Sadly I think extensions are involved just poorly deployed.

        • Constant Reader

          Even just a good blowout and some texture, combined with a looser braid, might have done the trick.

    • gabbilevy

      Despite my love for all things Disney, I have never felt the least inclination to watch this show. This is why.

    • Aidan B

      I have yet to see Frozen in its entirety, but even I can tell this is going to be a disappointment. My first thought was the hair; that’s a spindly little braid. They couldn’t do any better?

    • Danielle

      Why did this character even need to be added to the show? Let it go, let it go…

      • sugarkane105

        Because MONEY!

    • Kathy Marlow

      That braid is mangy to say the least..

    • Betsy

      The Elsas at the Disney Park Meet and Greets look far superior. This is like the carnival knock-off “Elsia.”

      • Danielle

        Or the ambiguous Elsa you see on the Vegas strip to avoid copyright infringement.

        • demidaemon

          All this talk about various Disney impersonators makes me want to see a fairytale princess challenge on RPDR, even though I know they would never get it off the ground because of possible copyright infringement lawsuits.

          • NinjaCate

            Yeah but DRAG DISNEY. THINK OF THE PUNNY NAMES!!!!
            Now I desperately want this, and when it doesn’t happen I’m going to be mad at you lol.

            • demidaemon

              Well, I’ll be mad at me too if it doesn’t happen!

      • sk8tfan

        Even the Halloween princess costumes at the drug store are of higher quality than this. For shame, costumers. You only have one job to do; get it right.

      • CommentsByKatie

        It’s a Disney show, why aren’t they giving her the same costume treatment as the parks? I don’t get it. The sad little non-glamorous dress and a tattered braid? Just ugh. This is so disappointing that it is actually making me angry, which is crazy.

    • Jessica Freeman

      With the braid fad going on right now, that’s all they got?

      • KateShouldBeWorking

        My first thought was similar to yours but I also appreciate seeing do-able, normal-width braid on TV. It makes a beautiful, blonde, princess I teensy bit realish.

    • Hilda Elizabeth Westervelt

      That is one sad looking, drug store Halloween costume, kind of dress.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

        That’s one sad looking tiny braid.

      • conniemd

        In general the costumes are definitely low budget looking. Nonetheless the show is still a guilty pleasure.

    • sugarkane105

      And stand up straight, Elsa! “Here I stand, and Here I stay!” and all that.

      • SRQkitten

        Thank you! Stand up straight like you have a backbone, girl!

    • In_Stitches

      CoCo Montrese does a better Elsa

    • MK03

      Wow. This is an insult to, IMHO, the most gorgeous Disney dress ever done. Honest to God, *I* did better than this, and I’m not a professional designer.

    • Anna

      Do you wanna build a better costume…

    • FrauKrissie

      THANK YOU. I was entirely unimpressed when I first saw this and wondered if it’s just because I’m such a huge nerd for this movie. Glad to know that’s not the only reason.

      Jeez, at least put a wig on her and get the hair right! An extension at least. That rat tail of a braid looks terrible.

    • MoHub

      There’s a good reason I was never a fan of Disney—not even as a kid—and this crap just tells me my instincts were good.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

      Terrible dresses, embarrassing CGI, and yet, Emma has a collection of coat porn. I do not get this show’s budget.

      • FrigidDiva

        Wasn’t she like The Savior or something ( I gave up watching in season 1)? Maybe being the savior of all mankind warrants her a bigger costume budget on the show.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

          Now she’s a savior with white magic and stuff because she’s the product of true love. Wait, I’m sorry – twu wuv.

    • SeriousStyle

      I’d have to disagree on the costumes, at least for Regina. The costumes they have her in in fairy tale land are simply stunning. To be fair, the modern day clothing she wears in Storybrooke is pretty damn fabulous too. I also LOVE Snow White’s outlaw garb from the first couple seasons.

      • scoobynacks

        I saw on a site that one of the dresses Regina wore was from Castle. Beckett wore it to a red carpet with Rick. I wanna know what they designed her for the show versus repurposed.

    • SewingSiren

      Eww. A cheap copy of the exact costume in the animated movie.

    • Nicola Anna Molly Page

      I don’t understand, the teaser at the end of last season showed her in a completely different, absolutely stunning dress! WTAF OUAT?

      I am disappoint.

    • Alyssa

      That is not Elsa. Nevermind that she doesn’t really look like her in the face, the braid is nowhere near what it should be! My favorite Disney princess was always Belle, because I have a love of reading like she does.

    • AlmostClassy

      They shoved giant square rhinestones into her braid. Giant. Square. Rhinestones. Come on guys, you’ve gotta be better than that!

    • FrigidDiva

      Take off the sheer part of the dress and you would have an absolutely fabulous prom dress from DEB.

      • marlie

        I was thinking Jessica McClintock.

        • FrigidDiva

          Oooh, even better.

    • Denise Rambo

      It looks dirty. In that last picture, you can see spots on the skirt. And my son came home from Warped Tour with better braids than that.

    • Kitten Mittons

      My nephew made me watch this last weekend, and it was cute enough. I’ll never be as emotionally attached to the newer movies as I am to the ones of my generation, though.

      Hmm, as a kid I loved Ariel and Belle. I might pick Jasmine today.

      Elsa’s dress was beautiful in Frozen, though. This does it no justice. It should feel like snowflakes and ice crystals floating around her. This is too heavy and standard to feel like a custom ice princess dress.

      • Anna

        This doesn’t even look good enough to be sold at The Disney Store.

      • scoobynacks

        Fun fact, you know that scene where she morphs into the dress? The one of the writers said John Lasseter imitated how he wanted Elsa to strut. So the body double acting out the sassy movement was the guy running Pixar. I’d pay money for footage of that.

        • Kitten Mittons

          That’s great! Thanks for sharing, I love those kinds of stories.

          I’m going to have to re-watch it now for the giggle factor.

    • fungstyle

      I don’t think you can really beat Jasmine for glam/fabulous factor – bitch has her own tiger.

      • JasmineAM

        I feel bad that I’m not living up to my namesake by not having a tiger. One can dream!

    • colleenjanel

      That hair is terrible. Not only is that an anorexic braid, but the back looks like she threw it up herself after swim practice.

    • Henry Maler

      Isn’t the whole point of this show mildly shitty cosplay?

    • TwiddlyStun

      The only way this could possibly work is if the storyline has her kidnapped by people running a fairy tale sideshow who take away her actual fabulousness and make her go out on Times Square to have photos taken not realizing she is The Actual Snow Queen. Then, the skimpy braid and half-a$$ed gown begin to make sense and the potential is not thrown away.

    • unbornfawn

      My guess is that they don’t make the costumes from the ground up for this show. They pull, buy and add fabric and decoration. This one looks like a cheap prom dress with extra crap added to it.

    • julnyes

      She is a QUEEN, not a pissant Princess :)

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      I think the thing that bugs me most is that they took her character design so directly from the movie. They’ve never put Snow in a blue/yellow dress, Belle hasn’t worn a yellow ball gown, etc. I know they want people to understand that her character comes from Frozen, but it would have worked better if they created an entirely new look for her and perhaps kept the hair (better styled) as a more subtle nod. Wow, I just spent way too much of my lunch time pondering this!

      ETA: Belle will forever be my favorite because she gets the awesome library and lives in France (I was obsessed with France as a child). It wasn’t until I watched the movie again years later that I caught on to the creepy Stockholm syndrome vibe!

      • KinoEye

        Now that I’m older, I’ve noticed all kinds of really screwed up subtext in most of the Disney movies I watched as a kid. But I guess that’s what happens when you’re working with really screwed up — and often gruesome — source material. Hunchback of Notre Dame will always be my favorite, but when you know more about the original story it kind of blows your mind that anyone would read it and think, “Hey! This is the perfect story to adapt into children’s entertainment!”

        • Thomas

          The Grimm Brothers were amazing, gruesome, but amazing.

        • Alloy Jane

          Pretty much every Disney movie centered around humans pissed me off as a kid. Even the movies I liked had points that made me angry. Snow White, for instance. I loved that she died, but still thought she was incredibly stupid for eating that apple. The Little Mermaid was lots of fun but I’m a story purist and was annoyed that she did not die and float around in purgatory for eternity. I loved Beauty and the Beast because Belle loved to read and didn’t want her life being made for her, but then she’s stuck in a castle with a giant jerk and an even bigger jerk is out there trying to assault her. It was gross.

        • demidaemon

          I read somewhere that the writers always through in some sort of gay illusion as, unexpectedly, many of the employees are of the homosexual persuasion.

          I also know that two of my professors (one undergrad; one grad) have written extensively on Disney and Pixar films. Apparently, it’s an easily mined subject.

      • Serenachan

        Belle did wear a yellow ballgown in her very first episode. And Snow once wore something similar to her iconic dress – just before trying to kill a bird!

        • Jarethee

          I remember that. It was kind of hilarious that, SPOILERS, once she went back with Rumple she had to start cleaning house and sleeping in a dungeon in that thing. I imagine it got pretty ratty fast.

          Ariel was pretty much spot on in the same costume too.

      • kmk05

        Can’t appreciate Beauty and the Beast as much now, that’s for damn sure. I saw it again, and not only was there Stockholm syndrome but she starts off more mothering him than anything else? It makes them falling in love even creepier.

        • KinoEye

          I still love the music, but yeah. It’s kind of an irredeemably creepy story. The best take on it I’ve seen — and one of my all time favorite films — is probably the French version from 1946. Doesn’t beat around the bush when it comes to the more disturbing aspects of that story, and is absolutely gorgeous to look at.

          • kmk05

            Oh, I’ve never seen it! Thanks for the rec: I know what I’m watching this weekend.

        • scoobynacks

          Seriously? You can’t appreciate it much? It got nominated for Best Picture back when they did 5 nominees. Not creepy to me. The weirdest thing is if you think about it she’s falling in love with a non-human in terms of appearance but it’s really a metaphor for what he was like on the inside before so even then it’s easy enough to get past.

          • KinoEye

            There’s no doubt it’s a masterpiece of music and animation, and one of Disney’s best. But it does have some problematic implications. The Beast is abusive and controlling (he doesn’t hit Belle, but smashing up the West Wing like he did counts as abuse nonetheless), and among the more plot-related reasons, Belle falls in love and stays with the Beast in the hope that he can change.

            That’s a pretty common situation in abusive marriages (or other relationships), and I think that’s why the Disney version has been criticized so much in recent years. Because of her love, the Beast DOES change into the handsome prince, which is sadly not the case in real-life abusive relationships. Thematically, it’s more about “if you love someone enough, they will change for the better” than “love someone for who they are on the inside,” depending on who you talk to.

            • scoobynacks

              Well, but he wasn’t throwing things and whatnot before he got transformed. He became tormented and angry after the pressures of living like that and not knowing how anyone could possibly love someone that looked the way he did–his superficiality toward others turned on him and he became self-hating. It’s not like he was treated horribly by someone growing up and then is repeating a cycle. As a prince he was raised to be entitled and self-involved to the point of offending a witch when he couldn’t get past her disguise, but he wasn’t raised to hit and rampage. I don’t see it as mirroring an abusive relationship because he was angry and violent based what he felt was almost a prison in his own body. He was trapped and because of the appearance he was almost in solitary confinement but for his staff who seemed to believe that wasn’t the real prince they knew (Carson and Lady Mary-esque perhaps?). Presumably he showed signs of his nicer self before he was transformed.

            • NinjaCate

              Yup. I have a friend who didn’t see the movie until she was an adult because her mom was a DV counsellor and she didn’t want her to pick up on the subtext that “her love can save him.” That’s one of the biggest and most damaging myths when it comes to domestic violence. The women stick around because they think if they just love the guy well enough he’ll transform into a better partner.

          • kmk05

            I said I can’t appreciate it as much now: I used to watch it everyday because Belle was my favourite (she loved to read and spoke French, just like me!). But the animation is not without its problems.

            Belle has little agency throughout the first half of the movie, and she is trapped with a captor whom she fears (Beast yells at her, he frightens her, and he runs hot and cold). It isn’t ‘cute’ even if/when he is infatuated with her. Even though he’s angry at first, he saves her when she tries to escape (because she gets lost in the woods) and she is convinced to give him another chance by his family. As if she owed him.

            And these are only some of the red flags that I think should be discussed. Even if something has won awards and accolades and we enjoy it, it doesn’t mean we can’t critique it.

            • demidaemon

              I don’t know if anyone here knows of the Kingdom Hearts franchise (which smashes together Disney characters with Final Fantasy and original characters in a weird smorgasbord of a game), but this conversation makes me think they are using it to do some major character rehabilitation on the Beast because 1) he’s stuck in his Beast form 2) he still loves Belle and 3) he is never shown being abusive towards her at all; in fact, he nearly sacrifices himself for her multiple times. Hmmmmm….

      • MK03

        I suspect the characters were more original in concept at the start, then when it became a hit and ABC saw dollar signs, they forced them to make the characters conform to the Disney models.

    • StelledelMare

      I was majorly disappointed when I saw these first too. I’m a certified Disney geek and I like Elsa but I have major Frozen burnout and kind of want it to go away for a while (super wishful thinking, I know). But yes, I have seen a ton of cosplayers do this about 100x better. She is pretty glam but my favorite Disney ladies are most of the ones from the 90s, princesses and heroines include because I love myself some Esmeralda and Megara.

    • decormaven

      That is some cheap, cheap fabric. Looks like they went thrifting, picked apart some old gowns, made a new one from parts, with some extra fabric thrown in from the bargain rack. Sad.

    • sienna elm

      I’m sorry – you have cowboys wandering around in underpants in Times Square??? How is this not a major travel promotion? I think I need to book a ticket right now!

      • Thomas

        Yes, he’s called The Naked Cowboy. Are you not from the states? I thought he was quite known. I think they show him on the New Years Eve telecasts sometimes. He’s nothing special. It’s kind of tacky actually.

        • sienna elm

          Thanks Thomas! No, I’m from Canada and I haven’t watched the ball drop on New Year’s since I was a kid (80s). I did assume it was a bit tacky and was being a bit facetious, but if he actually does this at New Year’s his temperature resistance is pretty impressive. :)

          • Thomas

            You’re welcome, neighbor to the north! I love Canada! It seems a lot more socially liberal and accepting and tolerant of different cultures and people than the states. When I saw that there was a show on CBC called Little Mosque on the Prairie, I thought to myself, “They would never air that in America! And if they did, there would probably be an outrage.” I’m jealous of your health care too and that gay marriage is federally recognized. I wish we had just copied your health care system. I’ve thought about living in Canada someday.

        • JohannaEG

          I saw him walk into a deli to buy an energy bar this week. He’s human!

    • luludexter

      that costume designer should be fired and please do something about that sad sad braid

      • http://armchairauthor.wordpress.com/ LesYeuxHiboux

        They should get Blake Lively as a hair double.

    • http://armchairauthor.wordpress.com/ LesYeuxHiboux

      The art direction on Once Upon a Time has been disappointing from the start. Disney could no doubt get anyone they wanted to work on that show, but the costumes and sets always look more suited to a Community Theater production than a major network fantasy epic.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1234087433 Jen Freeman

        This is what I’ve never understood. The park actors get better costumes

    • Thomas

      So I know this is about Disney princesses, but I saw an exhibit of Glenn Close’s costumes at William & Mary’s museum (her alma mater) and her costumes from 101 & 102 Dalmations were FAB. However, the museum is very small and the exhibit wasn’t that large as well, so I don’t think it was worth the $12 or $13 per person.

    • Anne At Large

      First photo: immediate response “WTF armpit cape!”

    • evave2

      I think she is on a par with the guy in all the leather from yesterday. I don’t watch that show, but I would think that Disney would put better costumes on their actors. Do the costumes look good on the show, is it something that shows up better when you film rather than photo? Because this looks cheesy.

    • Hallie

      technically elsa is a queen, not a princess.

      • scoobynacks

        She starts the movie a princess and only comes home to rule at the end. Most of the movie she’s either princess or queen-in-absentia.

    • Shalhevet

      The braid is especially ratty. It’s too thin and brittle looking, how hard could it possibly be for the hair department tp fluff and tease it a bit, even a bit of padding? I doubt that would put the budget over. The dress is pretty disappointing too. Needs more drama.

    • Kimmu

      Best Disney princess is Aurora, as in actual Sleeping Beauty Aurora and not the cheap Maleficent knock off. Aurora had, hand’s down, THE BEST bitch face ever.

    • Angie

      I keep toying with watching the show because I’m a hard-core fairy tale nut so people should feel free to convince or dissuade me but, that said.. Yes, I have definitely seen better Elsa rigs on cosplayers. Then again, most cosplayers border on obsessive when it comes to detail (in a good way!) but this definitely looks cheap beneath all the sparkly.

      Also, dammit, she’s a Queen, not a princess! ;-)

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

        NO.This show was what was in the Ark and why Indy was so vehement for Marion not to look. Because he knew.

      • VestigialMe

        Do you like “So Bad It’s Good” movies? Because if so, I’d recommend this show. Don’t get me wrong, it starts of with a plethora of potential, but the second they decided it was a “family show”, the plots and characterization became some of the most hilariously puzzling I’ve ever seen. Also if you enjoy queer subtext, there is a ton between Emma and Regina, especially when the always lovely Jane Espenson gets her hands on a script.

        • NinjaCate

          Which is odd considering Regina is Emma’s step-grandmother…

          • VestigialMe

            Considering how much of a clusterf*** the rest of the family tree is, it makes a weird sort of sense.

      • Qitkat

        I binge watched the first season and rather enjoyed it; but I thought it quickly went downhill the second season, and I abandoned it part way through. I tried to watch a recent episode and it felt quite flat and uninspired, like the writers have been reaching waaay too hard to connect all these stories.

        • NinjaCate

          I hated the Neverland season. SO BORING. I’m glad they’re finally back in Storybrooke.

      • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

        You should read the Fables comics if you’re a fairy tale nut! It’s fun.

        • Angie

          I’ve actually read that! Or I used to, anyway. Reading Willingham was what gave me a bit of a pause when they announced and brought out Once Upon A Time. Heh, comic geek cynicism!

      • NinjaCate

        Lmao. The costumes are terrible, so if that’s liable to bug you, avoid at all costs. But as a huge Disney nerd, I have loved the way they’ve reworked the stories so that they all exist within the same universe.

    • Deedles

      She’s got nothing on Angela Clayton’s Elsa look/costume

    • YourBaloneyDontGotNoSecondName

      Several of us had to stage an intervention for a Disney Queen once. “Tigger” is not a lifestyle choice.

    • http://www.luxperdiem.com/ Paige @ LPD

      that braid aint chunky enough tho

    • PeggyOC

      I just saw it for the first time recently and during that scene I turned to my husband and said “Somewhere, dozens of drag queens are crying for joy.”

    • frannyprof

      I have an eight year old daughter who would be INCREDIBLY disappointed and underwhelmed by this half-assed Elsa.

    • cocohall

      My daughter loves this show and loves Frozen. I’m having a sad for her that they went so low budget on their version of Elsa. She deserves better (Elsa AND my daughter).

    • VestigialMe

      Oh god, this show. That outfit is so flimsy, but really, that’s to be expected at this point.

      Also, for anyone who’s suffered through the first 2 seasons of the show, the crack video by J2thePower0f3 on YouTube is a thing of beauty. Anytime someone takes the show a bit too seriously (and oh boy, do they exist) I show them it.

    • Pterodactyl111

      The costumes on this show are weirdly terrible. It’s part of it’s charm.

    • http://medium.com/@directordanic Danielle Colman

      Of all the reasons I’ve heard for Elsa being a person’s favourite Disney princess, “She sang her way into a fabulous gown” is the only one that makes the damnedest bit of sense to me. Excellent logic!

    • somebody blonde

      My boyfriend and I are Disney queens, but I have trouble with the favorite princess question as well. The villains have always captivated me more than the princesses.

    • GemFemme

      Not a great execution on the costume. It’s a shame because I’ve loved this actress since her Fringe days.

    • stickee

      This show isn’t really known for its special effects or fabulous costuming. Do they not have the budget for it? Odd, considering it’s one of the network’s hit shows.

    • Sophie

      Does the dress make her arms look short? Something is going on in these pictures.

    • Jacob Bowen

      My friend, whose job it is to impersonate Elsa for birthday parties, has a BILLION TIMES better costume! She made it herself and her braid (of her own hair) is FANTASTIC.

    • ErikaM812

      I love that Belle is so many people’s favorite! She is my favorite too! I saw Beauty and the Beast when it first came out (I was 5) at the El Capitan theater in Hollywood. It’s been my favorite movie ever since. I have seen it so many times, I can recite almost the whole movie by memory, lol. I also love Frozen, but this Elsa has a sad braid and boring dress. I think the costumes you can buy online for about $100 look better.

    • Deneen

      Totally agree. That is one of he main reasons I don’t watch this show. The costumes are always so ordinary. Elsa train looks like they just pinned some yardage to the back of her bustier.

    • http://chadhatter.com Chad Edward Lee Evett

      As a Costume Designer, I want to remind everyone that TV requires an extremely tight turn around, Often you only have a few days to prep wardrobe, and usually on a Limited Budget. The costumes on ONCE are a brilliant example of making a budget work and still doing magnificent things. So Lay off.

      • Ali2044

        Why are you the only one allowed to have an opinion?

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

      I AM STILL ANNOYED THAT THEY THREW OUT EVERYTHING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSON SNOW QUEEN FAIRY TALE.

      Sorry. It’s literally my favorite fairy tale.

      • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

        I was also unimpressed by the melody of “Let It Go” so I’m apparently generally outside the zeitgeist with this.

        • Lulu

          You and me, both. If I never hear that song again it will still be too soon. Third rate musical theatre at best.

          • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

            HIGH-FIVE TO THAT. Sondheim or BUST.

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

      Also (and sorry to be a comment whore here) – c’mon, Jasmine’s the most glam princess. Them HAREM pants. LOVE. Plus she’s the closest thing I had as a Latina child to a Disney princess of my ethnicity. Sigh.

    • Alloy Jane

      Uncles TLo, you’ll be happy to know that Elsa is quite the favorite among the military crowd. There’s a moste entertaining youtube vid of some deployed Marines watching Frozen and singing along, subsequently exploding into cheers when she “lets it go.” Good stuff.

    • CommentsByKatie

      As a cosplayer and a professional seamstress I am offended by this. Most ‘bad’ Elsa costumes use sequins for the corset; the good ones use mixed media cut into irregular squares to create a shimmering texture, or something along those lines. This looks like world’s most boring ice skating bodice, sprinkled with a lazy handful of sequins. Wtf. And THE BLUES DON’T EVEN MATCH or compliment each other!

      • Kimberly

        Also, it looks like they totally left out the high leg slit. Which annoys me for some reason.

    • quiltrx

      The fit on that bustier/bodice is extremely annoying. And it all just looks cheap. I hope some point-and-click will make something pretty out of it.

    • demidaemon

      That is one cheapass looking costume, even for this show and ABC.

      Favorite Disney princess is probably Arielle, but I’ve always loved the villains more in general, because they were much more interesting.

    • Man Dala

      She’s a walking fire hazard. No.

    • Miranda Reseigh

      The hair design on this show makes me want to scream. If a cosplayer can do better, then there’s a problem with your costuming department.

      • Miranda Reseigh

        I just noticed her fugly shoes. It’s a train wreck!

    • Kathy

      Now that I think about it, I don’t have a favorite princess, but I love all the “bad” girls of Disney. But, yes, this Elsa costume is awful.

    • deech_sea

      OMFG! Is that what this show does? Promote Disney characters to grown-ups? As if they need more advertising. Robert Carlyle, you’re dead to me. (Just kidding! I love his films. But, I will skip this series.)

      • crashtestbonnie

        LOL! The first season was a *bit* more obfuscated in its… Disneyana, shall we say, than the later seasons have been. It wasn’t until Belle showed up in the big yellow dress that I was all, “THAT’S a little on pint, no?” and then someone kindly explained to me that this was a Disney vehicle. Ahem. I’m a little slow sometimes. ANHYHOO. Robert Carlyle is GENIUS on this show and his romantic subplot just breaks your heart – you REALLY want him to get his girl even though he’s a REALLY bad man – lol!

    • NinjaCate

      This is so boring. That teenager who was charging for sing-alongs had a better costume. Real talk. That said, I am one of the 5 people who still love this show. I’m excited!

    • ACKtually

      In all transparency I am not a Disney fan, but I am mommy to a fabulous 5 year-old girl who is. We just got back from Disney and I learned something.. there are only 2 Disney princesses that have been portrayed without a love interest. Elsa and Meridia from “Brave.” That said, Elsa transformed into her fabulous self not because of a love interest, (Belle for Beast, Cinderella for the Prince, Arielle for Eric) instead her inner bad-girl-diva was just itching to get out. I love that.

    • Elsewhere1010

      i thought your favorite Disney princess was Cruella deVille (but only when played by Meryl Streep).

    • crashtestbonnie

      I think the dress itself is lovely, but the hair is ABOMINABLE. Seriously, all they had to do was search Pinterest for “Elsa braid” and they’d’ve been INUNDATED with amateur how-tos. Way to drop the ball, Design Dept.

    • Columbinia

      Armpit cape? Bra band cape?