American Horror Story: Fearful Pranks Ensue

Posted on October 31, 2013

AHS+S3E4+1Denis O’Hare in FX’s American Horror Story: Coven

As with any season of American Horror Story, it’s difficult to find the right person to root for in all the goings-on. Sure, we all default to falling at Jessica Lange’s feet like lovesick teenagers in front of a pop star, but in each season she’s played women who could rightly be called downright evil, even if she does manage to make each of them sympathetic in her own way. We loved them all because despite their evil, they lived in Jessica’s body and their words came out of her mouth. It’s an actor-specific kind of love. And while Marie Laveau’s motivations are probably the easiest to accept of all the characters this season,  because – unlike most of the other witches’ self-centered motivations (youth, power, beauty, baby, boy) they’re rooted not only in real grievances  but in historical grievances, our love is more of a fear-based awe spurred on by her bone structure and amazing ability to rock the shit out of a turban. Because let’s face it: no matter how much she has cause for her actions, Marie Laveau’s fucking hardcore and that shit is scary as hell.

And hey, we fully admit to pondering the likelihood that Ryan Murphy and Co. are deliberately scaring the shit out of their predominately white audience by depicting a scarily powerful black woman who’s lived long enough to remember slavery and lynchings in this country and she’s PISSED. THE FUCK. OFF. Let’s not be coy here: the fear of African-American rage is built into the very foundations of this country and still resonates incredibly powerfully today. It’s not a coincidence that the 1971 version of Marie was working an Angela Davis afro. Murphy and Co. are deliberately stirring up some very uncomfortable feelings in a large portion of his audience. The horror in this story isn’t to be found in mutilations or minotaurs or even zombies, it seems. The horror is in our history and in ourselves. That’s the story being told here.

But let’s get back to the idea of who to root for in this story – which is not really a requirement for the story to be good, we should add. We could happily hate all the characters and watch them all destroy each other simply because each of them are so terrible in their own way. Cordelia’s whiny, passive-aggressive and a doormat to everyone. Zoe is painfully, irresponsibly stupid. You get to accidentally cause the death of one, maybe two people before our kindness runs out. Delphine, as hilarious as she is (“Here you go, beggar children”) is the biggest monster of all. Queenie doesn’t seem to have much in the way of motivations at the moment and Misty is a huge (and unsettling) wild card. After last night’s episode? We think we’re Team Nan all the way. Why? Because we think she might actually be masterminding a lot of what’s going on.

No, really.

She was with Madison when the drapes caught on fire and Madison admitted she didn’t know how she did it. Sure, she managed to light Fiona’s cigarette later but that’s substantially less impressive. Nan could’ve done it to ensure that Fiona’s jealousy of the next Supreme would focus on Madison, thereby destroying her. Nan was the one who called the council in over suspicions that Madison is dead, thereby putting Fiona in hot water. She’s got the cute neighbor boy eating out of her palm in a manner that would make Fiona jealous if she paid Nan enough attention to notice. We strongly suspect she may be the person who threw acid in Cordelia’s face (thereby escalating the witch war). If perfect health is a requirement to be a Supreme, she may be automatically disqualified because of her Down Syndrome and she’s resorting to machinations and subterfuge in order to gain control of the coven. You have to admit, it makes a lot of sense. We’d love it if she took them all down.

But what’s Zoe’s role here? And Misty Day’s, for that matter? Right now, they’re both pretty much outside the action on the internal power struggles of the coven as well as the witch war. And why is Cordelia’s husband shooting people in the head? Did that whole sex ritual thing call up something it shouldn’t have? Or has he always been this way and it’s another item to add to the long list of reasons why Cordelia is a doormat?

It’s the questions that keep us coming back, after all. No complaints here, even if this was the least exciting episode so far this season. Just give us more of the council, because we can’t get enough of bitchy Truman Capote warlocks and Grace Coddington witches with lifelong grudges. That shit’s gold.  Also: insane mute butlers having tea parties with corpses. More, please.

Is it bad that we’re pretty bored with the whole Kyle storyline? That one fizzled out quickly.






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  • Eric Stott

    The story arcs are not doing it for me, but the details and the performers are giving me LIFE

  • zenobar

    Frances Conroy made my night with her Gagagauntlets and crimped locks.

    But the cloaked thing that threw acid in Cordelia’s eyes? That was insanely unnerving.

  • Sobaika

    Queenie lives!! Mercifully very little Zoe. And Angela Bassett gives me everything.

    It was on the interwebs recently that Jessica Lange is only signing on for one more season, I hope Ryan Murphy makes Angie his new go-to bad bitch.

    • MilaXX

      There’s been talk of a spin off series of this season, so she may be.

      • Darren Nesbitt

        I loved the zoomed in shot of Laveau in the 1960s at the scene of the boy who was lynched. Her cheek bones scream revenge!

  • SassieCassy

    did they ever explain where the rift between the two covens began or are we just accepting that its racially and historically motivated

    • Sobaika

      I guess they did in the hammer vs. nail scene a few weeks back, but that was a shoddy scene.

      I do think it makes a really interesting metaphor for feminism/womanism, whether or not that was their intention.

      • I think it’s at least partially their intention, although I don’t credit Murphy & Co. with having a deep understanding of the historical divide between white and black feminists in the earlier days of the movement. It’ll be interesting to see where Queenie falls in all of this. Or what Marie will think of her if she ever meets her.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      I may be making this up, but I had the impression that the rift started way back in Salem. Tituba was the only real witch killed during the Salem witch trials, so the animosity may have begun with the white witches abandoning her to the stake.

      • Sobaika

        Historically, Tituba wasn’t killed in the trials. She was jailed and then released, no record exists after that. Creepy and sad.

        • BayTampaBay

          I think it may have to do with the Salem witches being accused of “stealing” magic from the Voodoo witches. There was an argument between Lange and Basset on this matter in I think episode 1.

          • SassieCassy

            yeah they really went ott with the slavery parallels ‘what you have was built on the backs of our power’ and lines like that

            its not a bad explanation so im going to go with it

    • I vaguely recall there being an explanation in that scene with Basset and Lang, but I didn’t understand it. If the racial component is indeed more than just subtext, then Queeny being part of the white girl club doesn’t make sense.

      • BayTampaBay

        Queeny is a descendant of Salem indentured house servant who inter-married with a Salem settler. Therefore, she is part of their Coven/tribe. (I do not know if the indentured house servant was a witch or the Salem settler was a warlock. Queeny did not expound on this) Queeny explained this in Episode one or two.

        • lchopalong

          I thought she said that she was descended from Tituba.

  • jjtxgrrl

    I Loved this episode! Where it lacked in the typical AHS shock value…it made up in richening the story. I’m IN.

  • I think the husband is a serial killer. There were allusions to last year, and how good he was at fishing online. I find it preposterous that Nan could have ever been under the same roof as he and not picked up on that. Then again, if she is the new Supreme, and is being more evil than we know, maybe she’d keep that kind of info to herself? Regardless, it bugs.

    My problem is that once a character is too stupid to be believed, it hurts my enjoyment of the story. Both Cordelia and Zoe are oblivious in a way that is nearly insulting. I can’t take them too deeply into consideration or it all starts to unravel.

    I’m still all in, I’m not going to over analyze and obsess. I’m going to enjoy the performances of women I love to watch on screen and marvel at the world being created for my consumption, like my kid’s Halloween candy.

    • Eric Stott

      If not a serial killer he could be a killer for hire

    • SassieCassy

      the husband was the most random shoved in storyline. like i do not care that he is cheating on her soggy headmistress ass, gimme more bulls head in a box. maybe theyll do something interesting with him? maybe?

      • notterriblybitter

        It’s possible that they’re using his character to highlight the difference between male and female violence. He shot someone that he didn’t really know and to whom he had no real attachment. It was all very cold and impersonal. When the women on the show kill/mutilate/attack someone, it’s VERY personal.

        • So far the men have been: rapists, liars, necrophiliac pedophiles, cheaters, murderers, “animals”, brain dead and soulless.
          The women haven’t been much better, but they’re are being painted differently. They are “women scorned” and having to fight for their power, fight for their rights to exist. Even though they too are murderers, liars, etc., we are routing for them and all their evil glory. Because, Ya-Ya.

          Yep. Sounds about right.

          • Sobaika

            Except Mama Kyle, who is an incestuous necrophiliac pedophile. Nope, I’m still not over that.

          • I do enjoy how quickly the wicked are punished.

          • All_Hail_Great_Satin

            What about Delphine? She’s an unabashedly awful person. She tortured dozens of people for absolutely no personal motivation except that she wanted to. Also, Kyle’s mom was an incestuous child molester!

          • That’s my point. These aren’t nice ladies. Yet we (I) love them!! (Obviously I have no love for Kyle’s mom) The men are being portrayed as easily definable awful. Boy = Bad/Girls = Good in a very simplistic way.

          • All_Hail_Great_Satin

            Hm. I suppose that is true. Maybe that’s just the nature of the season being very female-centric, though. There aren’t a whole lot of male characters to begin with. It’s kind of a role reversal of regular TV!

          • SassieCassy

            delphine is a monster but i can see them trying to redeem her with the apologizing to queenie and all.

          • Eric Stott

            She did apologize to Queenie – but if Queenie was in danger would Delphine risk HER life to help her? I think not – or if she DID she’d say something like “And now we’re even, slave”

          • stiffbickies

            I still don’t quite understand how you save someone’s life who is immortal.

          • Eric Stott

            Getting raped and torn to shreds might still hurt

      • tereliz

        I really hated this storyline, too. It better have a point. And I was wondering what Nan thought of this guy, myself.

    • notterriblybitter

      I was also wondering how Nan could not know. It’s possible that the two have never met. If Cordelia ever talked about “work” at home (and she seems like the type who’d never stop) he would know that Nan was clairvoyant and that he needed to avoid her, which wouldn’t be hard. It also got me wondering what serial killers think about when they’re not serial killing. Anyway, Nan is my favorite character on this show and I love the idea of her pulling everyone’s strings while they all ignore her. Which they do at their own peril since she knows all their dirty little secrets.

      As for Cordelia and Zoe, both are irredeemably stupid. I’ll be very unhappy if Zoe turns out to be the new Supreme.

      • BayTampaBay

        My favorite character on this show is the house! LOL! LOL!

      • Eric Stott

        I think Nan has more conniving bitch in her than anyone suspects

    • Alfie Tomi

      I think the husband is a witch hunter.

  • jeanzhane

    This episode confirmed this season’s place in drag history.

  • TrixieConQueso

    Warning – Name Dropping ahead. Loved that Witch Council – but I am biased. MANY moons ago I played the girlfriend of Leslie Jordan for a failed TV pilot (“Klub Madness”) …and of course, he was a Perfect Gentleman. Just FYI. Thank you for letting me post my “Brushes With Celebs” moment.

    • tessasouthworth

      Love. Him. Such a shame that your pilot didn’t get picked up. Every time I see him, he makes me smile. Last night was no exception. I kept picturing how they must have had to cut filming after every couple of lines to have a giggle over their campy lines, which is generally what I think happens whenever any of these AHS screen legends (Mmes. Lange, Bates, Bassett, Conroy & LuPone & M. Jordan) have a scene together.

  • In_Stitches

    I think they may be setting up a Cordelia as Supreme situation. The frustration of dealing with a scornful mother, a cheating husband, and a failing school will make her snap. Good girl gone bad is a tired tv trope, but look at Glee, that’s a Ryan Murphy specialty.

    • MilaXX

      Supreme’s are supposed to have perfect health. I think her fertility issues rule her out.

      • In_Stitches

        Perfect time for a miracle baby, no? Hopefully I’m wrong. What I’m suggesting sounds fairly trite.

      • tereliz

        Maybe her body knows that her husband is really a serial killer so it “shut down” during the honeymoon so she can’t get pregnant. My Republican Congressman says it’s possible.

        • MilaXX

          HA! and we all know how smart they are.

  • Angela_the_Librarian

    The witch’s council was delightful. I loved Myrtle’s gloves almost to the point of distraction. I thought that Myrtle may have been the acid thrower and had meant to maim Fiona. I am also leaning towards Nan as the real next Supreme. It will be interesting to see how the inner turmoil within Fiona’s coven and her fight with Maria Laveau pans out. The only real dull moments of the hour involved Kyle and the scenes with Cordelia’s husband.

    On a side note, for Halloween I decided to dress in my most killer, work-appropriate black attire and paint my nails black (and even have a fabulous mini-witch hat)…all inspired by Coven! Now if only I could exude half the attitude Jessica Lange does…

    • Eric Stott

      I’m agreeing about Nan- at the very least I think she’d got a revelation in the works

    • BayTampaBay

      I think the Supreme is Misty Day. Do not ask me why…just a feeling.

      I sure hope Stevie Nicks shows up as the long lost mother of Misty Day dragging Tina Turner along with her as a European Voodoo witch!

      • SassieCassy

        she brought herself back to life! that is some shit. beats lighting a cigarette

        • BayTampaBay

          No shit!

        • tereliz

          Reanimation is her gift, and from what it sounds like, it is her only gift (aside from tromping around bayou country in Stevie Nicks garb) so far. It may be that she has other talents and hasn’t been able to access her gifts because she needs training. Although if that were the case one would assume there would be actual classes at Miss Robichaux’s…

    • BayTampaBay

      I do not see direct violence as Myrtle’s mode of operation. Getting the “council” to burn Fiona at the stake or better yet exile her to Peoria, which to Fiona is the same thing, seems more like Myrtle to me. I do not see Myrtle as soiling her hands if Fiona is stacking her own deck against herself with the council.

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        I agree, but I was thinking that she may have broken down for a moment and wanted to maim Fiona in some way that would amount to the pain/suffering inflicted on the butler (and the sting of not getting the answer she expected). Myrtle really lost it at the end of the meeting and I thought that she may be too full of rage to think clearly. I’m probably wrong, but I thought it was a possibility.

    • All_Hail_Great_Satin

      I really hope Kyle’s plotline picks up. I don’t get why they’re dragging it out so much. But I guess we’re still only on episode four here.

      • BayTampaBay

        Definitely Chekhov’s gun!

  • MilaXX

    I find myself having serious eyeglasses envy every time Myrtle is on screen and even the pair that her younger self was wearing had me drooling.

    • SewingSiren

      As someone who could not recognize my own children sitting across from me at the dinner table without my glasses, I wish is could afford a eyeglass wardrobe a la Elton John.

      • MilaXX

        zennioptical. I have somewhere around 15 – 20 pairs because they are so affordable and I have this super weird prescription that is off the charts in one eye and pretty much a reader in the other. If they can make affordable glasses for me, they can make them for anybody.

        • Sumati Thomas

          I second this! I love ZenniOptical for glasses. I have a ton.

        • BookishBren

          THANK YOU for the info. Already looked at the site. It is amazing.I love cat eye glasses!

          • MilaXX

            HAPPY SHOPPING!

    • Robin Murray

      ESPECIALLY the pair her younger self was wearing.

      • SassieCassy

        i really like all of the flashback actresses

      • MilaXX

        YES! Been looking for a similar pair. Most of the ones I come across are too small and I want the larger frame like she had on.

  • libby trible

    I cannot be the only person who called out “Beverley Leslie!” last night….

    • THANK YOU! I could not remember his name on W&G for the life of me and then forgot to look it up. I now want Megan Mullally in AHS.

  • JustSayin’

    Is it just me or would anyone else have killed Madison for those shoes? And I adored Cordelia’s little candle/matchbox thingy.

    Was the ending of the episode supposed to look like the opening to “Thriller”? I swear, the song started in my head as soon as I saw the bride zombie.

    Fiona’s reign as Supreme has been one of ego and will. Bow to her ego and bend to her will like much of the older generation of witches. Also, her reign has been one marked by death and destruction. For the Age of Aquarius witches coming up, a reign marked by life and renewal would be more in keeping. A dual rulership of Nan and Misty? Nice.

    P.S. How nice that Spalding has made a friend.

    • BayTampaBay

      I would definitely kill Madison for those shoes if I had not already bought them…at full price believe it or not.

    • tessasouthworth

      When they cut to a closeup of those shoes and then went back to Fiona, I thought for sure she was going to tell Spaulding to grab the shoes!

      • BayTampaBay

        I could be wrong but I am very confident the shoes came from” Shoedazzle” or at least that is where I got mine.

  • Tricia

    Yeah, the Kyle/Zoe storyline is incredibly boring. I can only trust in Murphy & Co that it will turn into something that ties into everything else.

    Give us more Frances Conroy please!! She was amazing (and hilarious) last night. And Denis O’Hare! Is it too messed up to say that I find him (Spalding) slightly sympathetic? Sympathetic in all his deranged, doll-loving, desperate glory.

  • In_Stitches

    I’m not sure if I missed something…why did Queenie need a rag of Delphine’s blood when she had her…exchange…with the minotaur? I assumed she was going to voodoo-doll up something using it as her connection to Delphine.

    • Sobaika

      She was using it to taunt the bull and get him closer to her. Then she tried to get with him and then he gored her?

      • Eric Stott

        I think it was more than goring…

  • Glam Dixie

    “Here you go, beggar children” was my favorite line of the night. In second place was “If she’s dead it’s probably because she got wasted and offered the grim reaper a hand job or something. That butler is one scary mofo to add to the list of creepers on this show.

  • I like Paulson and Farmiga, but I dislike their characters, and I’m getting the impression that I’m supposed to care for them.

    Question: Is there a in-story reason for Delphine to still be around? Fiona got out of her what she wanted (the information why she’s immortal), and she claims to hate racists, so why doesn’t she just put Delphine back in the box?

    • Sobaika

      I think her original plan was leverage – Give me the secret to eternal youth and you can have this woman you hate so much. Now it’s escalated to a full on coven war.

      And I wonder if Fiona is as open-minded as she insists she is. She was very dismissive of Marie in her salon (messed with the wrong witch for sure) and intentionally led the council to believe Marie killed the Supreme in the 70s.

      • BayTampaBay

        I think Fiona is very open minded. She does not like Marie because Marie is the only “one” she sees as her equal.

        Marie could be a “martian witch” with green skin and Fiona would not like her because she is a true equal.

      • SassieCassy

        yeah i will agree, when she blamed it on the voodoo witches i was majorly side-eyeing

        fiona is very openminded, but about as openminded as a wealthy powerful white woman can be, ya know?

        • BayTampaBay

          Well, yea, but……if Samuel Jackson showed up as a warlock I could see he and Fiona doing the wicked deed with no problem. Fiona lives in LA, the most open minded place in the USA IMHO. If Fiona was a racist in any way, shape or form, I am sure LA is the last place she would live. She would probably live in some place like Houston or Memphis.

          • tereliz

            Or Albany. I hate to say it but in my experience the most racist people I’ve ever met are Yankees who don’t ever come into contact with people of color. Not Southern po-dunk hillbillies. It’s those ignorant Northern rednecks you need to look out for. (my apologies to anyone from Albany. My sister lives in Cohoes, so it’s not like I just threw that out there arbitrarily)

          • BayTampaBay

            Georgia or New York?

          • Eric Stott

            Albany (NY) here- I don’t exactly agree or disagree with you, but i will say that since we are the state capitol we’ve got some seriously screwed attitudes, and every color of the Liberal spectrum you could imagine.

          • BayTampaBay

            Well let us leave it at this ……..”if you are a racist person, the last place you would choose to live is LA, California”

          • a racist in east oakland has a short shelf life.

          • Lea Setegn

            I’m a Western New Yorker who has lived in the South for 13 years, and you’re absolutely spot on about this. In the South, it’s more out in the open – people get along, but rarely mix. And most people are OK with that.

          • YoungSally

            Actually NYC might be perceive as more “difficult” from the racist perspective because we don’t have cars to use as shields.

  • Inspector_Gidget

    I’d bet a cauldron of toad warts they’re setting up Zoe as the Supreme. It was painfully obvious the movie star girl was the wrong target. (Can’t even remember her name, is that telling or what?) Farmiga is a Murphy fave with her name right up front, and she hasn’t done anything interesting yet. Plus: Cordelia is barren, Queenie is obese and Nan has Downs. I guess “boring and mousy” don’t qualify as health defects, right?

  • tereliz

    I felt the same way about Nan being the Supreme until Cordelia’s explanation of “perfect health”. When she and Queenie and the other girls were talking about their virginity, didn’t she say something like “boys just come to me” or something like what Fiona was saying in her “the Dance” monologue? My money’s still on Nan, frankly.

    I was a little disappointed that the opening scene didn’t really have much bearing on the actual plot except to show that Marie Laveau can raise the dead. Duh.

    Yes, it was emotionally gut-wrenching, that’s not debatable. It was useful for some character building for Marie, and as a parallel to the 1971 scenes at Miss Robichaux’s, but I was hoping the scene would do more than just validate Marie’s predictions that white people will hang a little boy because of integration. I’m also disappointed that Marie seems to be the only mambo. She doesn’t need a full-on houngan/mambo school, but what’s the point of her legacy if it doesn’t survive past her? As we’ve seen, just because you’re immortal doesn’t mean you can’t be destroyed—or whatever Fiona did to the minotaur (did Marie call him Bastien?). How does she expect their ways NOT to die out if she doesn’t pass on what she knows to a new queen?

    Does anyone think Spalding should look, I don’t know a little older than Fiona? Maybe he was only supposed to be in his twenties in 1971, but in the present he looks pretty spry, crazypants and all. 😉

    • Eric Stott

      Perhaps Fiona has given him a little help

      • YoungSally

        I think he lives a bit more healthfully than Fiona.

    • webslice33

      i think Taissa is the supreme, she just doesnt know her potentials yet

  • kimbelsp

    What name did the note say? I rewound but couldn’t make it out. (I clearly need fab glasses too…)

    • Sobaika

      Myrtle Snow – the question was ‘who is responsible for your missing tongue’ and he blames her for forcing his hand. Twisted logic, but this is the guy who has the dead body of an underage girl trussed up in ancient bridalwear.

      • kimbelsp


      • Krazilia Love

        Whilst wearing a bonnet and old fashion nightie. lol

  • ovarB

    It was a shit and giggles moment when Laveau opened that cardboard box and there was the Minotaur’s head and then the thing BLINKED!!! I literally jumped off my couched and giggled uncontrollably.

  • Akemi

    I was SO excited to see Frances Conroy again!
    I love your theory about Nan, and the idea that she could be the next Supreme did go through my head as well, but then they brought up the thing about the Supreme being in good health, so, bummer. It had better not be Zoe, is all I’m saying.

    God, that Kyle story line is terrible. I basically end up tuning out the majority of it.

  • Sflewie

    So, is Leslie Jordan playing Quinton Crisp?

    • YoungSally

      He’s a little beefy to play Crisp….he is playing Leslie Jordan….just as Ms LuPone plays Ms LuPone.

  • Robot Housewife

    Marie Laveau’s turban is actually called a tignon, and in antebellum New Orleans all women of color were required by law to wear them. If you want to read a fascinating depiction of her world (including the monstrous Mme LaLaurie), check out Barbara Hambly’s Benjamin January series set in 1830s New Orleans, starting with A Free Man of Color.

  • Terrie_S

    I’m on Team Nan, if only because Jamie Brewer is amazing at holding her own against the likes of Jessica Lange and Kathy Bates. And I mean amazing by any standard, not just “Oh, look at how well she does despite her disadvantages.”

  • ShaoLinKitten

    Those red gloves on Myrtle Snow were to die for. I want them. I too was wondering why Cordelia’s husband was shooting random hookups in the head. Is he a serial killer? I wonder if the name Cordelia foreshadows her being wrongfully killed because of her mother’s sins.

    What exactly happened to Queenie?

    • Fordzo

      You play with the bull, you get the horns.

      • ShaoLinKitten

        Did she get the horns, or did she get the, um, horn? I mean, how much and what kind of penetration are we talking here?

        • Fordzo

          I think we can all just use our imagination.

  • Fordzo

    When Cordelia’s husband was having sex with the girl he met online, were his eyes weird, or was it just my TV?

    • Heather

      I thought they looked black – like Cordelia’s did when they were doing their little fertility ritual. Then I thought I must be mistaken – but if you saw it too, than perhaps they were creepy. Perhaps his killing of girls is some sort of blowback from the ritual? That’s my thinking.

      • Fordzo

        That’s what I thought I saw, too (that his eyes were black). Good! At least we’re having the same hallucinations.

        • LittleKarnak

          I saw it too and for some reason I thought he was going to turn into a werewolf…

  • Bostwick

    Myrtle for Fashion Supreme!

    Conroy’s been flawlessely styled in every season (IMO), but WHAT ARE THOSE RED GLOVES, MA’AM? My eyeballs are in such deep love.

  • lchopalong

    What I got from the “perfect health” thing was that if Madison were going to be Supreme that her body would’ve been healing itself the way that Fiona’s doesn’t anymore. Her heart murmur would have recently resolved itself/been resolving itself. A future Supreme doesn’t have to be born perfectly healthy, but all the issues they have will start “clearing themselves up,” so to speak, just like their powers get stronger. Then as their supremacy wanes, so does their health.

    So with that in mind, if Nan has any health issues, it may be that they’re going away. If you consider individuals with Down Syndrome mentally unhealthy because they process the world a different way (which is potentially dangerous water to tread) it could be that Nan has developed the ability to view the world in the way that individuals without Down Syndrome do. Her physical appearance wouldn’t change.

    • tereliz

      Loe that you posted this, but I’m not sure it’s as simple as Nan’s mental state. Because her chromosomal makeup is atypical—fewer than 700 babies a year are born with DS—is that even farther from the “perfect health” a supreme must have than a simple heart defect? Is that something that could be “cleared up”? What kind of message is Murphy sending if he had to change her in such a way for her to become the Supreme?

      I in no way want to limit Nan’s ability to become the supreme because of her syndrome—she’s my favorite—but Murphy really limited the playing field for who is going to be the new grand high witch with that little tidbit.

      I mean, what RULES OUT perfect health, really? Is Queenie’s BMI too high to be the Supreme? Are Cordelia’s ovaries too fried? What about Myrtle’s bad eyesight?

      • Terrie_S

        I think it would be awesome for Nan to be the Supreme just as she is. While there are health issues associated with Down Syndrome, in particular heart issues, we’ve seen nothing to suggest Nan has any of those issues.

        Of course, maybe Madison was the new Supreme and Cordelia was lying through her teeth.

  • Cate

    Although I’m still hanging in there with the Kyle plotline (pretty much because it’s nice to have a pretty boy to look at during this female-dominated season), I did find it hilarious that Zoe just went back to the school after losing him. And then she was insisting that they go look for Madison? What about the Frankenstein murderous monster that you just let loose among a sea of trick-or-treaters?!

    • BayTampaBay

      Reminds me of the way the average teenager thinks.

  • So, it’s not only women that can be witches, but also gayboys. Which I think is cute.

    LOVE Myrtle, and I hope we see more of her. She is in the opening credits, after all.

    LOVE Marie Laveau!

    Zoe, Cordelia, and Kyle need to become more interesting *fast*.

    Misty is cool, but she needs more proximity to everybody else, story wise.

    I hope to god that they’re not going with a redemption storyline with Delphine. Yes, this show can be gleefully inappropriate and that’s part of what we all love about it… but that would just take it too far for me. I already had a huge problem last season when they almost asked the viewer to symapthize with doctor torture nazi, and gave him a relatively dignified death (especially compared to two of his victims, Shelly and “Anne”.)

    • Matthew Vella

      What? What gay guy was also a witch in this episode?

      • Lea Setegn

        Council guy. TOTALLY gay, in the best queen bitch way.

      • Leslie Jordan as Quentin of the witche’s council.

  • ashlisisk

    I paused the episode when they did that close up of Myrtle’s gloves and I am still searching the internet for them.

  • QueenOfTheWorld

    I think Marie Leveaux is going to put Bastian’s minotaur head on Kyles body. Thinking back to one of the early commercials, there is a white minotaur lying on the front porch of the school.
    I am pretty sure that blinking eye will feature a starring role in my next nightmare.

  • fogharty

    I thought perhaps Darrin, I mean Hank, shot the woman in the hotel (Kaylee) as some type of fertility ritual. Perhaps she made for a better blood sacrifice than a goat.

  • ZnSD


  • Claudia Fernandes

    I have to desagree with you only in one aspect: for me, this was the most terrorific episode this season, and the more exciting because of it…the rest, check, check, true

  • Randy Noak

    I keep hoping they give Cordelia a stronger personality/storyline. They have to, Sarah Paulson is giving first billing, so it would indicate that her character is the protagonist, but so far she’s just been whiny and boring.

  • rosie1843

    [“Voodoo witches.}

    I’ve never heard of this term before. What exactly is a Voodoo witch? I’ve heard of a voodoo priestess or a Hoodoo practitioner, but never a Voodoo witch.