Mad Style: Far Away Places

Posted on April 25, 2012

Let’s go on a trip, shall we?

Before we get into the weeds of it all, we want to point out something that’s not strictly style-related, but since we’re all about the visual motifs here, it’s worth noting. Three parallel, overlapping stories were told this episode. Those stories were bridged through the writing, but there were also some visual cues that occurred in story order, linking each tale.

The episode opened with Peggy in her slip, embroidered with yellow roses:

And then continues with Roger’s story, where a yellow rose figured prominently in the tripping scenes with Jane.  She clutched it through almost all the LSD scenes and the bed was strewn with yellow petals the next morning.

Somewhat more obviously, Roger’s story provided a visual bridge into Don’s as he and Jane wound up on the floor, staring at the ceiling and quietly ending their relationship:

And a few hours later, Don and Megan wound up in the same position – MUCH less quietly – as they came to the realization that their relationship isn’t nearly where either of them wants it to be.

Okay, onto the clothes.

Peggy made it abundantly clear in the opening scene in her bedroom that she was stressed out over the Heinz pitch and that it meant a lot to her. It’s not at all surprising, then, that she’s wearing what looks to us like the most expensive outfit she’s worn all season. It’s definitely her “impress the client” getup, because on days where she doesn’t have to meet with them, she’s usually dressed in far less fussy clothes than these. Tones of mustard or golden yellow have been her signature “career” color since season one. Check out that blue eyeshadow. She’s all dolled up, from her perfectly flipped hair to her screw-on earrings. Bobbie Barrett once told her to make her way to the top by being a woman, and she’s applying the advice here. Six years of working alongside Joan hasn’t hurt either.

But Pegs isn’t Bobbie and she sure isn’t Joan. She’s sporting a business-like black A-line skirt, which allows her to put her hands in her pockets (just like Don does) as she delivers a typical “I’m not here to tell you about Jesus” speech (just like Don does when clients get difficult). Her mentors are visible throughout just about everything she does. Unfortunately for her, no one takes kindly to a woman who acts like a man, which is exactly what Bobbie was trying to warn her about.

We only ever see it when she’s lying down, but that top has some truly unusual detailing in it, another indication that this is an expensive outfit. The shape mimics her crossed arms and increases that sense of restriction that she’s feeling.

We didn’t think there was anything notable about the menswear in this scene until we noted with a laugh that the Heinz exec is wearing a tie the color of the label and the color of baked beans. That’s company loyalty.

Not much to note about her handie, except he’s wearing the trendiest in 1966 pants for the young 20-somethings; early signaling of the hippy styles that are about to explode. Within a year, half the kids in the country (the groovier half) will either be wearing striped pants like these or asking their parents if they can get them.

What’s most notable about Michael’s clothes is that he clearly hasn’t bought many since he took the job at SCDP. The jacket, shirt and jeans (which we still maintain would not have gone unremarked-upon in 1966) are the same he wore for his job interview and have been worn in several scenes since then. Since it’s likely he’s supporting his father (or at least responsible for contributing) he probably doesn’t have much cash to spend on himself. With Peggy in her very best work outfit, the two of them never looked further apart.

Geez, where to begin with Jane’s eye-popping moneyed mod getup? Actually, let’s take a moment to point out that Roger is not wearing his signature three-piece suit here. This less-structured jacket and bright red tie are clearly for evenings and socializing.

Jane is dressing in the most chic, most modern clothing money can buy – and she spent some serious cash on it. This is the very latest in 1966 high fashion. Everything about this look is magazine-current and extremely expensive, from the diamante trim and extremely showy jewelry, to the just-about-to-become-trendy Eastern and Indian influences, like the high collar, exposed strip of belly, and harem pants, not to mention the gigantic earrings. We noted before that the huge earrings worn by the hookers and madame a couple of episodes back were pretty showy for the time and these are no less so. The difference here is that these cost a fortune. Just like Peggy did, Jane is dressing to impress here. There’s no way she did that hairdo up herself. She sat in a salon all afternoon getting that ostentatious thing pinned to her head.

And of course, stylistically (and emotionally) these two are aren’t just worlds apart; they’re galaxies apart. To be fair, they don’t look all that unusual put in the context of a wealthy second-married man and a much younger trophy wife of the period; a point which is illustrated by the costuming of the other characters.

There was an interesting visual motif of mirror and split imagery in this scene (and yes, that’s Ted Knight, who would start appearing in The Mary Tyler Moore show as Ted Baxter four years from “now”).

Which was reflected in the couple on the opposite side of Roger and Jane; a grey-haired older man in a typically Roger Sterling three-piece suit and a much younger, attractive, and glamorous woman in a trendy, glittery, expensive outfit. That these two seemed to be very much in love marks a distinct contrast to the Sterlings, however.

Jane’s therapist and her husband were pretentious as hell, but one look at the large and expensively appointed apartment, with its African and Eastern influences and artifacts (also reflected in her clothing) and you can see both why Jane wanted to impress them and why she hilariously interpreted these ethnic styles by looking to I Dream of Jeannie for inspiration.

The tension in this episode was sky high by the time it got to the Drapers’ story and that feeling was enhanced by Megan’s outfit. She wore this outfit once before, the Monday after she threw Don his surprise party, when they entered the office and walked down that hallway, tense and barely speaking or looking at each other (a moment and shot which will be replicated later in the episode).

Back in the day, Betty had her “sad marriage” coat, a striking royal blue coat that popped up over and over again in scenes dealing with her domestic disappointment. After this episode, we think we can safely call this Megan’s equivalent, although we’d be surprised if she ever wore it again, like Jackie and her famous pink dress.

This look also helps to visually raise the tension in the scene. In the loud and colorful surroundings of Howard Johnson’s she’s a buzzing, angular focal point, demanding to be noticed over the din.

And when she steps outside and you place the camera at a low angle, you get a beautifully represented visual motif of angularity and conflict, reflecting back and forth between the chevrons of her coat and the chevrons of the roof. She’s stuck here; literally and visually.

Unlike the previous time she was seen wearing this look, she is, like all the women in this episode, seriously decked out; in her case with some big pieces of jewelry and stylish sunglasses. Contrast this with how she looked in Don’s flashback, when her only official role in his life was as his secretary and part-time nanny:

Here, she’s fresh-faced, sunburned, and somewhat modestly dressed, in pieces that look sturdy, but not particularly stylish. This is notable because really, Megan never dressed this way, not even when she was his secretary. From the minute she appeared on the scene at SCDP, she was always brightly and stylishly dressed in the latest in 1964/5 styles. They weren’t as expensive as the clothes she wears as his wife, but they sure didn’t look like this. Either a mistake was made in the costuming (which is extraordinarily  unlikely) or we can take this as a visual cue that Don’s memory of her isn’t reliable. Megan was always glamorous, but he’s playing a memory of her as simpler and more maternal than she ever really was.

This whole blowup started over a cruel remark about his mother and it’s clear that on some level, he sees her as a maternal figure for himself; someone angelic and perfect to save him and to be to him what Betty and his own mother and stepmother never were:

Like so.

The irony of this Pieta-like staging becomes apparent with that flash of her child-like butterfly slip.

Because the costuming here is the most juvenile look she’s ever worn.

It was a quirk of mid- late 1960s women’s styles – and you could have a field day postulating as to why; many others already have – that they were largely infantilized; like this schoolgirl dress, sporting naive detailing like bold sash details and big buttons.  She could add some brightly colored hosiery and a pair of Mary Janes and be wearing something perfectly fashionable for an 8-year-old and a 25-year-old at the same time. That she’s standing there crying with a pink hairbrush in her hand only completes the little girl picture. Betty could often be astonishingly child-like in her marriage, but we never saw it represented so forcefully as it is here.

Making that somber post-fight walk down that hallway once again. And after wearing nothing but bold and brightly colored outfits to the office all season she’s in a more dour and serious-looking brown. Things have changed; possibly permanently.

 

[Photo Credit: Michael Yarish/AMC -  Screencaps/Collages: tomandlorenzo.com]

    • PaulaBerman

      I thought it was interesting that, in the HoJo blowout scene, Megan was wearing sherbet orange…

      • Marc Naimark

        Since she’s already worn this outfit, does that mean the costume designer knew back then that there would be action in this ep at HoJo?

        • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

           That’s almost a certainty.

        • Lilak

          And if this is the first repeat outfit, does it signal ‘the honeymoon is over’?

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Yeah, I suspect very strongly that the entire season is plotted out ahead of time, as opposed to shows like, say, GLEE, which seem to be written one week to the next. Otherwise how could they do a Whitney Houston tribute so quickly? There is no other way to have such continuity.

        • rowsella

           This was also the outfit she was wearing when Harry humiliated her in conversation with Stan.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

        Weird, I saw it as coral, and made a mental note that they had her dressed in what is probably the ONLY style crossover between 1966 and 2012. Coral is in every store right now.

        It also clashes hard with the orange of both the sherbet and Howard Johnson’s itself — it’s obvious just seeing her juxtaposed with the restaurant that she’ll hate it there.

    • egl48

      Oh no.  Now I am going to be late to aerobics so I can read my favorite column of the week.

      • Spicytomato1

        Haha, the same thing happened to me last week!

    • SewingSiren

      I absolutely love the costumes for the female guests and host of the LSD party. People used to put so much effort into their evening attire, even just going over to someones house for the evening.

    • laura512


       That she’s standing there crying with a pink hairbrush in her hand only completes the little girl picture. Betty could often be astonishingly child-like in her marriage, but we never saw it represented so forcefully as it is here.”

      I think the difference is, Betty chose to be child-like, enjoyed being doted upon and used it as a tool to manipulate people. I don’t believe Megan wants to be treated like, or thought of as a child. She wants to be an adult and an equal.  We see how badly things end for her when she’s forced into the role of a child.

      • Sobaika Mirza

        Exactly. This was Don’s day, his side of the story. Everything is presented as how he sees it, and he definitely sees her as the embodiment of youth. No wonder he expected her to be overjoyed by HoJo’s and sherbet.

        • aesteve212

           And he gives her the same present as one of his kids, which she says “give to Gene”. He is really really infantalizing her in this scene!

          • P M

             good point! I didn’t catch that!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=739196218 Leah Burns

             And a backscratcher?? He really isn’t that good of a gift giver.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

              I thought they were just poking fun at the kitschy tourist gift-shops of the time. Hell, I remember them from the 80′s. Every truck stop had a place like this (in the south we had Stuckey’s, but it was exactly like this HoJo’s except for the motel), where you could buy cheap plastic junk, eat bad diner food, get gas, and often spend the night. There wouldn’t have been anything there Megan would have genuinely liked, and kitsch, camp, and irony weren’t a lifestyle yet.

      • 3hares

        And yet this is the dress she’s put on with Don not home, to go to work the day he’d arranged for her to have off. Not sure what the symbolism is here, but it just seems hard to say that Betty just chose to be a child (when I think she also had that infantalization forced on her) while Megan’s being forced into it in this scene.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Maybe all her good stuff was packed or at the cleaners.

          • http://profiles.google.com/ameliaheartsu Amelia Logan

            All?

        • Sweetbetty

           I just took it as the brown color matching her mood; the styling of the dress is secondary.

          • 3hares

            Could be–or maybe the young look is her reaffirming herself as being on the younger side of the generation gap so she’s not dressing like Mrs. Draper, married woman.

        • Glammie

          It reads schoolgirl uniform to me–as in young (Don’s perception of her), but also serious.  Megan may be young, but she wants to grow and learn.  Megan truly is younger (and the dress wouldn’t have read as unusually childish at the time), but I don’t think she’s childish in the way Betty is.  Megan wants to be a grown-up, but there’s a learning curve.  

          Some people view Megan as having all sorts of devious motivations, but I think she’s actually pretty straightforward.  However, she really is a different generation with different assumptions about how life is.  She’s someone who might be able to handle Don in 10 years, but is currently way over her head, despite how sophisticated she looks.

          I think in some ways, the serious schoolgirl work outfit is meant to remind us that she’s truly young.

      • LesYeuxHiboux

        Betty expected to be treated as child, she had been raised to believe that was her role in marriage (her father even commented on the error of his ways in that regard, too late to help her actually grow up). She also married younger than Megan by quite a bit, she was a mother of two by the time she was Megan’s age.  Megan was raised in a much less traditional home, in an era that was starting to think that there might be something more for wome who had the guts to reach out and take it.  Let’s not forget that Betty was rather daring for her time, moving to Italy to model and acting as a fashion designer’s muse. She became more childlike after her marriage to Don, in reaction to it (note the trip to Italy and a return to who she was before they married, and Don’s trivialization and infantilization with the Coliseum charm) just as Megan is becoming more childlike in reaction to him.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

          It’s weird. You mention that Betty was educated and well-traveled and then chose to infantilize herself by marrying Don. Maybe I’m just projecting a stereotype of French Canadian-ness here, but I almost see Megan as doing the opposite. Coming from a traditional and unsophisticated life (and remember she mentions in this episode that she’s the BABY of the family) and then moving to New York to blossom into a more cultured person. The Americans she meets assume French = sophisticated, but if my understanding of Quebecois culture is decent, it’s really not and definitely wasn’t in the 50′s/60′s. If Megan is being infantilized now, it’s against her will.

          • LesYeuxHiboux

             No, I didn’t say that and please stop putting those objectionable words into my mouth. Educated, cultured, sophisticated Betty married a man she hardly knew for reasons no better than Megan’s. Due to a combination of social pressure and Don’s emotional abuse she regressed to an infantilized state as a defense mechanism.She expected to be cared for (not necessarily babied) because it’s what her husband and father told her marriage was. Accepting something is not the same as choosing it. She did not choose to be infantilized, she wound up there after years of abuse (the bikini incident, anyone?). We never saw the early days of that marriage. She may have been just as spirited and independent as Megan is now, before being a controlling, self-centered man’s wife wore her down. Megan is at the edge of that precipice now, and it will be interesting to see if she tries to save her marriage or her sense of self.

          • Sweetbetty

             I doubt that Betty ” chose to infantilize herself by marrying Don”.  She was probably bowled over by being pursued by this handsome, charming man who was up-and-coming in his field.  She married him for love, not having any idea what her life was to become (just like everyone else).  She didn’t wake up the day after the wedding infantilized; that took years and happened by tiny bits.

    • http://theargiehome.blogspot.com/ Gus Casals

      Given that this was probably Jane’s sendoff, it was great to see her shine as bright as she ever did. That was some outfit, but it’s the hair that left me speechless.
      The chevron effect outside the HJ is hypnotic. I’d love to know if Janie Bryant took a look at the set and made the connection immediately to Megan’s chevron outfit.
      And you guys, outstanding as always. 

      • aesteve212

         As soon as I saw Jane all I could think about was an Star Trek extra from another planet (one of the dead sexy ones who Kirk ends up with) mostly because of that elaborate hair piece!

        • http://www.katymcdermott.com KatyMightHave

          Exactly what I thought too!

        • lovelyivy

           All she needs is the green paint…

        • http://twitter.com/mediapileup Beth Anderson

           Yes! Me too!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

          Her outfit is also oddly reminiscent of Princess Leia in the first Star Wars movie. The turtleneck and the mega-hair. I also thought she was ridiculously overdressed compared to everyone else at the dinner party/acid trip. I’m honestly surprised TLo didn’t comment on that. When she and Roger were in the elevator I thought they must be going to some kind of gala or maybe off to meet royalty of some kind. (maybe the sorts of people Don fell in with when he went MIA in California?) I was disoriented when they cut to them in a bourgie Upper West Side psychiatrists’ pad.

          • 3hares

            I’m not sure if she is supposed to be overdressed. She’s clearly trying hard, imo, but as she’s wearing a pantsuit I think she’s trying to hit the same level of dressiness everyone else is at.

          • roadtrip1000

             Maybe her psychiatrist was royalty to her. She definitely wanted to impress her.

      • Jennifer Coleman

        When I saw Jane, I immediately thought of Casino Royale, which was released in 1967.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sierra-Delta/100003182924700 Sierra Delta

           The first thing I thought of was Elizabeth Taylor’s hair from her first wedding to Richard Burton (in Rome?).

      • barbarasingleterry

        My parents were friends with a couple who were just like the Sterlings, although there wasn’t the age difference.  He was a silver haired, witty, dapper man always dressed to the nines, and she was a blonde who wore her hair in the exact same style as Jane’s, skiing, glider flying or to an evening gala.  I always wondered how long it took her to do her hair…

      • http://profiles.google.com/ameliaheartsu Amelia Logan

        When you said Jane’s sendoff I thought you meant Janie Bryant, and my stomach turned sour immediately. lol

    • EEKstl

      Brilliant as always, TLo.  Megan’s chevron coat outfit was one of my favorite outfits of the series and the match to the HoJo roofline and orange sherbert was perfect, made more so by the fact that this wasn’t the first time we saw her wear this.

      • Jessi03

         I’ve wondered that, too.  Does it not have a lock?  Is that where everyone goes to sleep?

        • Marc Naimark

          Given Don’s out-of-office shenanigans, they’ve become accustomed to assuming the couch would be free. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558631967 Ivona Foster

          Not everyone, but Megan doesn’t have an office at all and Peggy’s office is not private- it used to be her and Stan in there, and now there’s an addition of Megan and Ginsberg all using her office as the one creative office. Megan goes to type in his office a lot which makes sense since she has no where else to do it, outside of sitting at Peggy’s desk.

          • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

            I think technically Megan shares Peggy’s office? Or if not, then that really does add to the “blurred lines” issue of how Megan fits in the heirarchy.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558631967 Ivona Foster

              Peggy’s office has two desks in it. Presumably Peggy’s desk (the bigger central one) since it has all of her stuff in it and the smaller drawing desk that Stan is normally seen using. But, Megan has been sitting at Peggy’s desk during Little Kiss (when Peggy is trying to find gum ) and in the last episode Ginsberg is sitting at the little drawing desk editing copy or something. 

              They just don’t have space for the new people.

            • Celandine1

              It’s puzzled me a bit, wouldn’t some space have opened up when they had to layoff 

            • reebism

              I don’t think they had that many extra creative staff working there already…Jane’s cousin didn’t seem to have his own office, he hung out with the other guys.

            • Amanda Caldicott

              Where did the “creative lounge” go?

            • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

              It’s probably both.  Megan probably doesn’t have dedicated office space and whenever they need to blur the issue of her hierarchy, she’s sitting at Peggy’s desk.  It’s a neat trick they manage to get so much meaning (confusion of position, awkwardness of supervising the boss’ wife) into a single reality (need moar deskz pleez).

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              They’re brilliant, aren’t they??

      • theotherTLO

        Totally thought the same thing about Don’s office!  It’s where people go to lie down and ponder.

        I agree, TLo, such a great catch on the chevrons in the building.  I knew it was an outfit Meghan wore before, but I did not catch how it matched the HoJo

      • PaulaBerman

         She wore chevron earlier in the season too, on that cheerleader-like outfit.

    • Meklar

      Megan’s bag in that last screenshot is to DIE for.

      • KaileeM

         Agreed!

      • Glammie

        The accessories are interesting there–I notice the scarf–bicycle print and green.  Wonder what that’s about?  Is there life in the marriage still or will Megan be cycling away for greener pastures?  It’s curiously spritely considering what’s been going on and the rest of her outfit.

        • http://www.wordydoodles.com WordyDoodles

           Love that observation about the bicycles.

      • cmb92191

        I love that bag!

    • Marc Naimark

      I’ve been so looking forward to this week’s Mad Styles. So much going on!

      A first comment: Pëggy looked not just restrained, she looks like she’s wearing a straight jacket. 

      • P M

         I think she’s suffocated by the client’s stuffiness.

    • Vanja Wüster

      There was lot of orange color in the HoJo scene.. 

    • Vera L-

      Can I just express my adoration of TLo for a moment? 

      Your writing is brilliant, insightful and I so look forward to these posts!
      Thanks guys, I do not know what I would do without you!  

    • juliamargaret

      Thank you, as always for the recap. Excellent! I was rewatching some of the earlier episodes and noticed Megan’s HoJo dress in the first episode of the season. Janie Bryant really is amazing.

    • aimee_parrott

      I always want to go back and re-watch the episode after reading your Mad Style posts, because you always give me something new and interesting to think about.  Thank you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558631967 Ivona Foster

        hear hear

    • Erica Dorsett

      So THAT’S what was going on in Don’s flashback in the car.  I couldn’t figure out what was going on and couldn’t place it in time–I thought for a while he was fantasizing about some time in the future with him and Megan and the kids.  It’s because she’s dressed and styled in a more maternal fashion than anything she’s actually ever worn.  Thanks for the heads up, guys!  I love these posts. 

      • aesteve212

        In the episode recap a lot of commenters felt Megan was pretty immature in her reactions to Don, their fight etc, but after this post and TLos take on the flashback (and a commenter up thread who points out this is Don’s memory of the day) I think it is just her presented through Don’s eyes. Over the course of their relationship I think she has been quite mature, clear, not holding grudges, etc. When she has a problem she states it, pushes Don if she wants a different resolution, and then moves on. She’s not perfect by any means but she is really swimming against the tide of her situation. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/denise.alden Denise Alden

          Nicely put!

        • http://www.deborahwiles.com/ GoodSally

           And isn’t that Don’s stated M.O.? “If you don’t like what’s being said, change the conversation!” Don has met his match in Megan, but it’s costing her a lot to stand her ground.

        • http://deeplyproblematic.blogspot.com/ RMJ12345

          I was a little disheartened to see people blaming Megan for that fight. Don was pretty explicitly abusive, emotionally and physically. She tried to avoid both of the ugly situations (tried to stay at work, tried to get Don to not drive off and strand her) and he insisted on escalating and stamping his foot. At two different points in this episode, he was behaving in a way that was nothing short of terrorizing her, making her fear for her physical safety.

          I generally think that Don gets too much credit and his wives too little in fights, particularly when it comes to their comparative maturity. Both Megan and Betty could be childish at times – as most people in their twenties are – but in most cases they were also expressing mature and adult needs and trying to have real conversation
          and dialogue that Don would swat away with a dismissive comment or a tantrum.

          While rewatching the series recently, I was surprised at how often Betty attempted to discuss her issues in an adult way with her husband; he stifled her instinct to grow at every turn. Sure, the very young Betty was in many ways immature and petty, but he did the bulk of the work to  keep her childlike. He is doing the same to Megan here, forcing her to play the role of a child getting a treat against her stated wishes to fulfill their adult responsibilities. They seem childish because he keeps dating and marrying women who are too young for him. They are not naturally childish, only young; he is the one forcing them into infantilization while they’re trying to grow up. Especially considering that he’s 40 and significantly older than either of these women, I think he’s really the childish one in both of these
          relationships.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558631967 Ivona Foster

            Absolutely agree, I don’t see how can anyone blame Megan for the fight or say she was being childish. People have even commented that she was being a child when she didn’t answer the phone in the apartment. I don’t get it. 

            I understand Don’s appeal to the audiences a wreck you love to watch, but he is being forgiven way too much.

          • P M

             ‘Forcing them into infantilization’: Which is why I think Megan GULPING down sherbet was the right / only thing she could have done to call out Don’s behaviour.

            • Susan Crawford

              I got that feeling, too! Megan was actually mirroring Don’s petulant behavior when she tried the orange sherbet, found it too “perfume”-sweet, and requested pie. He took it personally, and played the “don’t embarrass me in front of a client” card. He belittled Megan’s perfectly reasonable preference for a different dessert as an assault on HIS values. “You don’t like orange sherbet? There’s something WRONG with you!”

              So the more overheated Don became, the more Megan simply reflected his childish attitude. You can see this behavior any day in any playground in the world, I’ll bet. She responded to him in a dramatic and outrageous manner (in his eyes), but she was simply giving back a scoopful of his own nonsensical tantrum over a dish of sickly-sweet sherbet.

            • P M

               I agree with you (And barbiefish – see below). I think the fateful ‘Mother’ line came as a result of Megan mirroring him. You know, when you have nothing else to say to defend yourself in a fight except literally throw the person’s words back at them?

            • barbiefish

              I agree with your comment and Megan’s approach.  What Don’s reaction said to me is that he is quite humorless and lacking in insight about when he’s behaving badly/picking a fight.  When I’m fussing at or arguing with my husband, of course I think I’m right and he’s wrong, but sometimes he disarms me with the kind of exaggerated response that Megan used with the sherbet and a light bulb goes on:  “gee, maybe I really am acting like an asshole here”.  It’s actually a face-saving (for me) and often amusing way to defuse a “war of words” that neither of us can win, nor claim to be totally right.

            • P M

               You know barbiefish, I think you’ve helped me put my finger on how a person in my life behaves. But back to Don: yes, there is a humorlessness to him when he’s not Alpha Dog, isn’t there? But then, I don’t think he was ever the life of the party.

              I’ve got to wonder about people like that: temperamental, unable to compromise, etc. This raises interesting questions about the effect on his kids. Not a good model for Sally, surely!

          • beebee10

            In fights, people are reactive by definition and most often not their best. Meghan’s behavior in the fight was rather standard bad fight behavior–sarcasm, verbal barb. The way Don lashes out is to squash Meghan, disorient her, then the ultimate, STRAND her. He wants to render her powerless and move on. And he is the older one. Don’s personal/relationship issues are so much more complex than what Meghan’s appear to be. And this makes him the more desperate one as we see him on his knees and her standing. 

          • Sobaika Mirza

            This. THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. It’s surprising the amount of crap Don has gotten away with from the audience.

            • Glammie

              It’s funny, some of the audience reaction is akin to how people in the office on the show react to Megan–as the young second wife who’s getting perqs she doesn’t deserve (basically come out of nowhere, she’s suddenly a lead in the show.)  That she’s young, pretty and glamorous fuels that (particularly as she isn’t being portrayed as a creative whiz kid.)

              I think there’s a gut reaction that she doesn’t “deserve” Don, but MM being the show that it is, twists things around and reminds us that Don’s no prize.  

            • P M

               I was chatting with someone today, and she explained the cognitive dissonance angle to me. She said, in a totally different context, doing X is wrong. Let’s say a person is acting in an X fashion. If I like the person, in order to keep up the relationship with that person, I will think, no no s/he’s not behaving like an X, etc. That person just couldn’t / wouldn’t do that / be like that. No, no; I like / love / have a relationship with that person; they couldn’t do that / be like that. I WOULD NEVER BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH / COULD LIKE A PERSON LIKE THAT.
              And I thought: CLANG!
              I think the Don Mystique seems to take over people, despite this show being about showing how complex, multi-faceted and flawed people can be. 

          • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

            I don’t remember that about Betty. But I will have to rewatch some old eps when I get a chance, since you nailed everything I have been thinking (and commenting. :)

          • KaileeM

             This is one of the best comments I’ve read regarding Don’s terrible behavior in his fight with Megan. Great insight!

          • PaulaBerman

             I feel I understand Don much better now that I think of him as a toddler. My toddler, in his bad moments, behaves exactly as Don behaved his episode: loses interest in what he should be doing, bossy, demanding I do what he wants NOW, running away when he’s mad at me, then panicking and clinging, sometimes violently.  Considering Don’s history, it explains a lot that he would be arrested at about the age of 3 in his emotional development. I hope he grows up, or he will always be miserable and so will everyone who loves him.

            • http://profiles.google.com/ameliaheartsu Amelia Logan

              he even dealt with her leaving the same way a little kid would. he couldn’t think of anything better to do than sit and wait. When I was a kid I would lose my mom in the store then just stand there and cry till an adult came and helped me.

          • clairdelune

            Hopefully, some viewers can start to re-evaluate their “Betty-hate”.  Viewing Don as he relates to Megan shows he’s still the same crippled, self-centered Don, and Betty was just not equipped with the personality – and the back-up of a changing gender narrative – to stand up to him.  I have always seen Betty as a victim of both Don and the time she lived in.

        • 3hares

          So Megan isn’t doing what she’s doing? I mean, I didn’t think she was that childish in things she did in the ep. There were places where she sounded childish, but that seemed due to the situation (and God knows Don was childish). But it seems a serious thing to say that Megan’s behavior, if it seems less than mature, is actually Don.

          • http://www.deborahwiles.com/ GoodSally

             Megan is 26 years old and in a relationship with a 40-year-old narcissistic bully. She doesn’t know when she’s supposed to be a “good wife” and when she’s working. I think she’s doing really well. The comment “Why don’t you call YOUR mother!” is obviously blurted in the heat of argument. She’s been trying to be heard for almost a year now.

            • 3hares

              I don’t think I understand how this relates to what I was saying? I was questioning the idea that “we’re seeing Megan through Don’s eyes” meaning that if she seems immature at any moment in the ep it’s because we’re not seeing the real Megan, but a distorted one that Don sees. I think she’s been doing as well as can be expected too given her situation and experience and the guy she’s married to now. Of the two of them I think Don’s been far less mature, though there are times when Megan sounds very young—and the situation Don put her in in this ep was likely to make anybody sound that way. But, for instance, I don’t think “Why don’t you call your mother” should be stricken from the record of Megan’s character because it was in the heat of an argument and she’d been trying. At the risk of sounding like I’m defending Don’s abuse (or revealing I’m in love with him—neither is true!) he’s also been trying and blurted things out in a passion. It’s just that Don’s “trying”, unlike Megan’s, is desperate and smothering and often disrespectful of Megan.

            • http://www.deborahwiles.com/ GoodSally

               Got it. Maybe typing too fast, thinking too quickly, or putting my reply in the wrong place. I hear you. Maybe we do see a distorted Megan throughout the episode, but I don’t think so. I think we see her clearly, in “real time” the way events unfolded, until the car scene on the way home from Disneyland, when we see her in Don’s idealized imaginings.

      • Cabernet7

        On the commentary track for Tomorrowland, Matt Weiner mentioned a scene that he cut from the episode of Don & Megan going home from the airport.  I think this is that scene, originally filmed in season 4.  The little boy in the back seat looks like 4th season Bobby to me.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          You might be thinking that it because it doesn’t look like Current Bobby. I read here someplace, that there have been “filler” Bobbys, whose faces you don’t see, in addition to official cast members.

          • http://howtofaint.tumblr.com/ How to Faint

            Filler Bobbys? HA! At this point, they should seriously just use a different boy as Bobby for every episode.

            • P M

               That would be an excellent running joke. Too sitcom-y, but a great joke. They might even occasionally show an earlier Bobby, in a family photo, just for emphasis.

    • Sobaika Mirza

      I have never wanted to be Jane Sterling more. What an outfit!

      • P M

         That needs to be worn to a swinging East-West Swinging 60s-Bodacious Bollywood party :). Zeenat Aman forever (sorry).

    • http://twitter.com/RozSeven Roz

      So many extraordinary details–my favorite is that Megan leaves her rose-colored/adorned sunglasses at the restaurant.

      • barbarasingleterry

        Interesting take on the rose-colored glasses.  It is as if she seeing the reality of her marriage and is seeing Don clearly at that moment.  No wonder the glasses are left behind. 

    • charlotte

      Thanks again for the brilliant post (and of course thanks to Janie Bryant for making it possible).
      Especially the bit about Megan and the chevrons on her coat and on the roof- I didn’t notice it while watching, but now it just seems so obvious. And as soon as she is at home she changes into another outfit, the brown dress, that also ties her to her surroundings.

      It is also great to see the contrast between Michael and Jane. Both are Jewish, but they live in entirely different circumstances. I’ll miss her extravagant getups, assuming that there will be no nasty divorce storyline that brings us more of her.
      Someone mentioned in a post that the woman in the blue dress at the LSD party looks like Faye Miller. Looking at the screenshots, I can definitely see a certain resemblance.

      Excuse me now, I have to go eat some orange sherbet.

    • smokyvalleygirl

      The brown dress look – reminds me of outfits Mary Tyler Moore wore in her show – the shot of 

      Ted Baxter pushed that thought.  I was a teenager at the height of the mini dress fad – so I could “pull it off” – but wondered about how older women must have felt to embrace the trend but not have the build for it.  I was thankful by time I had to wear career clothing that knee length and below skirts were fashionable.

      • Lilak

        MTM and Ted Baxter: Absolutely!  

        Another layer added on to Megan dressing like the femme – if not ‘child’ – version of Peggy at the office.   “Work”…not “wife.”

    • choco

      I think her dress in the flashback scene is Don reminiscing about Betty and domestic life. As you say, the gloves, coat, earrings, and just that style is something that Megan would never wear. Even that dainty hand gesture by her ear is something Megan has never used, and I think Don is getting this sense of nostalgia where nothing is as happy and wonderful as the past.

      • P M

         omg that’s right! That’s what I thought! But those are not Betty gestures either: kind of generic ‘sweetness and light’.

    • http://twitter.com/SIxGablesBags SIxGablesBags

      On my screen, Megan’s dress and chevron coat were much oranger.  I wondered why she was being tied to the HoJos and couldn’t wait to see what you guys had to say about it. And I come here and damn if the whole ensemble isn’t pink…Hmpf.

    • Pants_are_a_must

      Megan’s outfit for the majority of the episode and “sad coat” were, for me, an obvious visual cue as to how different she and Don are as people. In past episodes, she’d always match colors with him in some way, but in here she’s all salmon and fuchsia pinks, and they couldn’t look more jarring in comparison to Don’s gray suit.

      Jane’s outfit was particularly interesting, because when you look at it through today’s fashion, she could not look gaudier. The Heidi hair, the cut of the clothes (bare midriff, harem pantsuit) and the fashion concepts aren’t that different from what we see on the red carpet, but all that cream and diamante trim and pearls, pearls, pearls take it all the way to “I Dream of Jeannie” territory, which matches the psychiatrist’s apartment, in a way.

      • BayTampaBay

        I’ll take and wear Jane’s earrings any day.

    • A Reeves

      Thanks for this.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Katherine-Lavender/553350310 Katherine Lavender

      On point, as always!

      On a much less analytical level – I heart Jane’s outfit. I NEED that outfit. I can do without her husband and hang-ups though, fun as they both are to watch. Also, did anyone else look at lipsticked Jessica Paré in those last few scenes, and repeatedly see Anne Hathaway?

    • UrsNY

      Fascinating, especially the note about infantilized women’s fashions! All three women had childlike elements, Megan’s brown dress, Peggy with that collar, and Jane’s cartoonish take on ethnic boho. And all three had crushing disappointments in what they dreamed of achieving, at the hands of powerful men. (Peggy is really married to “client”.) Tragic.

    • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

      Not a style point, but let me just add that the set design, set dressing, and props are just wonderful too.  They seem to me to be spot on for 1966.

      • Pennymac

        I adore TLos screen grabs for this very reason. The interior of the HoJos was perfect, and the exterior was, as well, plus I noticed that GULF gas sign and went immediately back to my childhood vacations, staring out the window of the back seat, looking at these familiar travel signs. Wow.

    • Offbalance

      Regarding the flashback scene – Sally is wearing Mickey Mouse ears, so this might be shortly after the engagement, after they arrive back in New York, possibly hours after the scene in last season’s finale where Don proposes.  Yes, Megan is glamorous, but she also was on a plane for 6 hours AND it’s super-late at night (as they drive the kids back to the new house in Westchester).   I’m guessing she looks a bit beat-up from travel, and whatever makeup or other trimmings she had on are long gone. 

      • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

        Don proposed the next morning, when they woke up in his apartment together. And our note about the unusually simple nature of her look refers to her coat and scarf as much as her “trimmings.”

        • Mefein

           

          I was thinking the flashback scene was deliberately meant to look like it was more from the
          late fifties, like Don was merging a couple of memories, the ride with Megan,
          and an earlier one with Betty and the kids, going to their new home.  Even the padding on the door panel looks like
          an older model car.  And I started to ask
          if Don still wears a hat anymore, because I honestly couldn’t remember and I
          thought that might be a tip-off.  But I
          see in the pic of him coming out of the HoJo’s that he indeed is carrying a
          hat.  So I certainly can be all-wet on the
          whole idea.

          It would be interesting, though, because it
          would mean for the second time that we are in Don’s imagination there is some
          confusion about which wife is really being remembered/talked about.  The first was when he imagined the old flame
          he had met in the elevator was now in his apartment, talking about their tryst
          at Lincoln Center while his wife waited inside, and it left us all thinking,
          whoa, was that Betty or has he already cheated on Megan (and Googling when
          Lincoln Center had opened.)  It WOULD be
          fitting for Don to be merging his wives in his imagination given his penchant
          to turn them into more symbol than people with actual needs.

      • http://twitter.com/roselovec rose l. chou

        I need to watch this episode again because I could have sworn that last season’s Bobby (Jared Gilmore) was in the backseat sleeping next to Sally — perhaps the flashback scene was originally filmed last season?

        • 3hares

          Yes, I think this is the scene MW referred to in the commentary that was originally filmed as part of Tomorrowland. So presumably this is what Megan was really wearing.

      • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

        Speaking for my mother here, but 6 hours on a plane no matter what time was one of the reasons you dressed up.  Plane travel was special and you did it to the nines, or at least the eights.  The “trimmings” might have come off in the car, but she’d still be wearing the makeup.  These also don’t really feel like her colors.

        • Logo Girl

          This is quite true. There is (or was) a photo floating about with my family, more from when the episode took place than the flashback, where my mother, my brother and myself are dressed up in our best. I’m wearing a crisp, pressed, embroidered cotton frock in a chocolate brown, and my mom is dressed very much like Megan at HoJos (sans modish coat), on our way to a cross-country flight. And mine was a bohemian family, not a bourgie one, so this dress up for a flight thing was across the board, socially.

          • Sweetbetty

             “this dress up for a flight thing was across the board, socially.”That made me snort and remember a scene from “Modern Family” where Gloria’s son is dressed appropriately for MM’s current era, complete with plaid sports coat, for a flight and when someone comments on it he says, “I’m just trying to bring style back to travel”.  If you don’t know the show you won’t appreciate it.  But I’m often struck by the contrast of travelers in old movies I watch with travelers of today.  When I got married in ’66 it was de rigueur for the bride to have a “going away outfit” to wear as she left on her honeymoon and much thought was put into it.  Nowadays shorts, tank-top, and flip-flops are considered just fine.

            • sweetlilvoice

              Love the shout out to Modern Family! And I also agree about your other points. I try to evaluate my surroundings, so I dress nicely to go to the grocery and goodwill.

        • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

          Even college kids dressed up for plane flights. Whenever I traveled back or forth to school, I wore heels and the boys wore sports coats.

        • 3hares

          But isn’t she just wearing a coat and scarf and gloves–all appropriate for a weekend babysitting? She’s probably just as dressed up as we’d expect there–she’s wearing earrings and make up. Her lipstick’s a little faded, but it’s there and so is the blush. I think this is just the actual memory. It’s not telling me much of it’s supposed to be distorted. If Don was disorting Megan I think she’d look *more* fresh-faced and pretty, not frumpier. The whole HoJo’s trip he was trying to recreate California, so why would she look frumpy and un-sexy?

    • Frank_821

      I love your comment about the Heinz exec

      and great call about The flashback

      Also saying Betty chose to act like a child I think is only partially true. I think it’s more apt to say she defaulted to that behavior after a while being married to Don. I still recall Don’s description of Betty to Anna when he announced his engagement. he could have been describing Megan.

      • MilaXX

         Betty behaved child like towards her own father as well.

        • Glammie

          And she continues to act like a child with her current husband, who doesn’t appreciate it.

          • Sweetbetty

             Mmm, I’m not so sure about that.  Henry saw himself as her rescuer and protector.  But like everyone else in this show, he’s complicated; he likes certain aspects of her childishness and dislikes other aspects of it.

        • Glammie

          And she continues to act like a child with her current husband, who doesn’t appreciate it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2CNDPMVO4W23R5TVC2QMTJ5BZE Heather

      Incredible post – thanks, TLo!

      I loved the detail of the sugar-cube LSD on the gold tray, passed around like caviar – much different than the cartoon-printed paper tabs that I … um… heard about in college.

      • http://profiles.google.com/ameliaheartsu Amelia Logan

        the paper tabs I “heard” about were just plain white. but I also “heard” about purple gum tabs. I “heard” of a friend that got a whole vial of binaca filled with lsd once and he took 27 hits in one day.

    • http://twitter.com/floretbroccoli Florrie Brafman

      The one thing I noticed that you don’t mention (yes, I’m finally paying attention) is that Peggy and Ginsburg are wearing the same colors.
       

    • BayTampaBay

      TLo stated: What’s most notable about Michael’s clothes is that he clearly hasn’t bought many since he took the job at SCDP.

       

      What is most notable about Michael’s clothes to me is that half of 15-25 year old males, not in the work force, dress exactly
      like this in Florida.  They call it “GEEZER WEAR”.  The colors all match but they put together as many clashing prints as possible to wear at one time and top it off with a tacky golf hat an old Geezer would wear in rain to play golf.  They refer to
      their clothes as a “Stymie” hat, stymie shirt or stymie pants.  I asked one of these dudes, “Where did you
      get those shorts”?  His response, “These are my stymie pants.  I got these pants at a garage sale.  Stymie died and they
      were selling all his geezer stuff.  My mom had to take them in eight inches.  I got a stymie sport coat there too.  That
      old geezer had some great stymie stuff. All the stuff I got would have cost me $500.00 at the mall if I went to Hollister or Abercrombie & Fitch.  I spent $40.00 at the garage sale. Mom can sew so size is not a problem.” 

      Does anyone else (outside of Florida) see young dudes dressing like this (Michael Ginsberg) or is Florida
      really another planet?

      I find it cool as shit.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/M476USE6GD6VEE4RO6JA22VRLI Kriesa

        That’s very interesting, because the geezers the young guys are emulating are probably Jewish retirees who’d be Ginsberg’s contemporaries.

        But, no, I don’t see that style trend at all in upstate NY. Of course, we’re about 5 years behind all trends, I think, but I suspect yours is FL specific.

        • BayTampaBay

          Then again, many old geezers (Jewish, protestant and atheist) die in Florida so I guess they have all their “super expensive stymie stuff” stored in their country club golf course view condo. LOL! LOL!  

        • rowsella

          I’ve seen the high school kids in the plaid golfing clothes one would expect to see on 60-somethings (in Central NY).

      • annrr

        Sort of. My nephew was 14 when my Uncle John (his great uncle) died at age 87 and my nephew kept a bunch of my uncles clothes. My Uncle was kind of stylish tho b/c his daughter liked to buy him clothes and close to same size as my nephew. He is a college student in Chicago now and still wears the clothes, and yes a bunch of it is plaid and a couple old man hats.

      • Sweetbetty

         Where does “Stymie” come from, though?  The only Stymie I know of was a black child character in the Little Rascal films.

        • BayTampaBay

          I have no idea where “stymie” comes from but many of the “kids” I know refer to old geezers as “Stymie” or each other as in “Hey Stymie, quit “geezing” and get over here!

      • Liz French

        I live in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, the capitol of Hipsterville and they do dress “stymie” as all get out. They don’t call it Stymie though, at least not that I’ve heard. FLA is the best place to get the “stymie died” clothes and the “Lila died” clothes and a lot of winter coats that Stymie and Lila were so certain they’d need once they moved outta Cleveland or wherever.

      • Ogden1990

        Saw several young guys in the airport in Miami wearing mid-calf black socks. Should I assume these were their “stymie” socks? Ha.

        • BayTampaBay

          YES!

      • http://howtofaint.tumblr.com/ How to Faint

        Florida is another planet. One I’d like to visit.

    • Silver1117

      It’s interesting that Jane’s “I Dream of Jeanie” outfit acts as a material link between all of the storylines: Major Nelson (Jeanie’s Master) was an astronaut, which fits with Michael’s story about coming from Mars, while Megan’s “Yes, Master,” with Jeanie’s characteristic crossed arms and head-nod, draws a clear parallel between her and Jane. Come to think of it, “I Dream of Jeanie” might be seen as an emblem not just of this episode, but of the entire season. As a show that forces an uneasy marriage between the space age and the archaic past, juxtaposing modern technology with a disturbingly patriarchal social order, IDoJ contains a number of the clashing social forces that are shaking the lives of our SCDP characters. Moreover, the episodes often bend time and space at the whims of Jeanie and NASA, using visual sequences that recall an acid trip as much as sci-fi/fantasy conventions — an echo of the temporal disorientation and social dislocation the Mad Men characters have been experiencing this season.

      • barbarasingleterry

        Science fiction was becoming more and more mainstream in the mid sixties, Lost in Space, Batman, Green Hornet, Star Trek, not to mention Twilight Zone and other anthology shows like that.  I think it was because of the space race and interest in rockets/getting to the moon.  Mad Men is reflecting on those influences both in the style of clothes and style of filming. Remember all those movies of the future at school whewere told by 1985 we would have flying cars? Time and technology started moving incredibly quickly starting around 1965, the changes were so fast it was hard for anyone to keep up except the kids. Quick change became normal for the baby boomers, but has never been comfortable for the previous generation…

        • Glammie

          And, of course, Ken Cosgrove has gone from literary fiction to SF, though he seems to be heading back again.  We’ve had two episodes where Ken’s writing’s been prominent–the last one and the Season 3 one about Sal’s marriage.

    • http://twitter.com/closetcoach Heidi/Closet Coach

      Speaking of Megan wearing much more expensive clothing as Don’s wife, is that an Hermes scarf dangling over her arm in the last shot?

      • http://twitter.com/SIxGablesBags SIxGablesBags
      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        If so, I wonder if she only grabbed it after he came home, in a last-minute attempt to be Sophisticated Mrs. Draper. As if she wouldn’t have worn it if she’d gone to work alone.

        And here’s another thing– how would that have gone at the office if she’d arrived alone? How would she have explained it? I wonder…

        • Sweetbetty

           I’d been thinking about that too, while all the discussion was going on about the argument in the apartment scene.  It’s obvious she was getting ready to go to work as usual the next morning, showing she really did take her job seriously and wanted to be part of the team.  She had no idea whether or not Don would be at the office or not.  Knowing him, he could have gone there rather than home to spend the night so he could either be there when she went in or show up later in the day.  She was probably running all kinds of stories through her head to explain Don’s absence, made more complicated by the fact that she had no idea if he had called and spoken with anyone at the office.  I really, really wish we knew what conversation had taken place between Don embracing her on his knees and their smiling parting of ways at the office.

    • AZU403

      Michael’s outfit is jarring on several levels. First of all, if those are supposed to be blue jeans (I don’t have a large enough TV screen to tell), nobody but nobody wore jeans to the office in 1966, any more than you would wear a T shirt. But I’ll let that go. Then there is the combination of print shirt and plaid jacket – wildly inappropriate, signifying either that he is a total nerd or has to shop at Goodwill. He looks too slight to be wearing his father’s clothes. He is cute, though – in my youth I was always a sucker for Jewish boys

      • Marc Naimark

        He isn’t wearing his father’s clothes. I’m more than willing to believe he is adopted: they look nothing alike. I think he is a total nerd, or rather, he’s someone whose social interactions have been very limited. He knows a lot as an observer, but is not interested in using his observational powers to fit in, either with his clothes or his behavior.

        • BayTampaBay

          I think Michael is ahead of his time.  I have been in the real work motel work force since 1992 and every engineering firm I have worked for had several Michaels.  Most worked in the IT departments or designed weird things like sewage treatment plants.  They even dresses liked him…they wore what looked like new ties, button down shirts three sizes too big and jeans that were two+ sizes two big falling off their hips held up with a belt (better fitted for waist high pants) with an added touch of frayed and distressed hem because they were six inches too long.

          • Sweetbetty

             1992 is a long way from 1966.  I had my first office job in 1966 and I agree, no one would have worn jeans.  In the 80s I worked with engineers and there was one in particular who fit you description perfectly but even he never wore jeans.  Mismatched clothes, clothes that didn’t fit right, clothes that needed mended, yes; but never, ever jeans by him or anyone else in the office.  My last job ended in 2002 and was in an engineering company.  We had casual Fridays where jeans were allowed, and even then they had to be clean and not torn, but no jeans at all during the other days of the week.  And I’m in small-town PA, not NYC.

            • BayTampaBay

              Sweetbetty, I was three years old in 1966 so I cannot comment and did not mean to comment on what is correct in 1966.  I meant to say that some people are so talented and valuable that they are excused or ignored when they violate an an established “office culture”.  Working for a lot less money than you are worth makes you extremely valuable to a company that is selling your work.

              Also, wearing jeans was allowed in my office by people who never saw clients…i.e. design engineers and IT engineers.

            • Glammie

              I think SweetBetty and TLo are right–offices had dress codes–jeans as office wear didn’t happen until the 70s–I think it kind of started in Silicon Valley.  But, as an ad agency brat of an agency that served Silicon Valley clients, I can say that jeans were not okay in my father’s agency until way after 1966 (more like 1978.) Yes, the creatives were able to get away with it first, but it would not have gotten a pass that early.  And certainly not in New York, where work clothes did and do remain more formal than they do on the West Coast.

              I think Stan going without a tie is about as far as it would go at that time.

            • Susan Crawford

              Agreed, Glammie. When I look back to the mid-sixties era, I do recall that the dress “code” for men was not broad enough to allow for jeans at the office. In fact, most adult professional men didn’t wear jeans at all, since jeans were often regarded as limited to teenagers, teen-gang wannabe’s, or blue collar workers.

              Weekends and casual times, young ad men would be wearing relaxed trousers in flannel or linen, maybe a pair of kakhis or golfing pants in bright color.

              Nerdy types went for the Sans-a-belt or Haband slacks – and creative types might be able to pull off a medium-wale corduroy trouser with a tweedy jacket and tie at the office, but only if his status and power was very assured.

              Turtlenecks and ascot ties were making little inroads, but we had pretty rigid “regulations” for menswear back then. And a newby like Mr. Ginsberg would NEVER have been able to roam around in those unkempt jeans.

              So now we need to analyse the semiotics of denim as it relates to potentially delusional young men who may be Martians with abandonment issues and . . . God, I LOVE this blog!

            • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

              Another oldie checking in to say Michael’s clothing would not have been tolerated in most any work situation. Even Stan is too casual with his pullover knit shirts. I hope we hear from Janie on this since she is usually so meticulous.

            • Sweetbetty

               Right.  Even if he made it through the interview by bowling Don over with his eagerness I’m sure after a day or so on the job Joan would have discretely called him into her office and talked to him about appropriate office wear.  If he said they were the only pair of pants he owned, which I highly doubt because he must go to synagogue with his “father”, she may have had Lane give him an advance on his pay just to buy a pair of pants.  Those jeans just don’t fit in with all the meticulous detail of the show and I’d love to hear an explanation.

            • Glammie

              Funny, when my mother was supervising younger lawyers in the 70s and 80s one of the things she had to do was occasionally pull one of them in and tell them how to dress for court.  Some of them were rebelling against the whole formal work clothes thing, (think collegiate Hillary Clinton) and my mother would point out that it wasn’t fair to do that to your client.  

              I remember jeans very definitely being a youth culture thing with when and where you could wear them being sort of an ongoing discussion for years.  

            • 3hares

              It wold be funny if now that Burt told Don to get his head back in the game, if he suddenly looked at Michael and told him to go home and change.

            • Sweetbetty

               LOVE it!

      • sez369

         This interview with a Mad Men costume designer sheds some light on the thinking behind Michael’s jeans.  It seems like it is meant to reflect his extremely eccentric personality… http://www.gq.com/style/blogs/the-gq-eye/2012/04/mad-props-mad-mens-michael-ginsberg.html

    • carolynmo

      Jane’s outfit was fabulous. My first thoughts were: I can’t wait to see what Tom and Lorenzo have to say about THIS and how Talitha Getty-fantastic she looked!

      I’ll chime in with everyone else to say how wonderful these posts are!

      • aesteve212

         Tlo’s recap and mad style post are now as equally anticipated as the actual episodes for me! Sunday night is just part 1, the Monday, then Wednesday. I don’t know what I’ll do when the season is over.

        • 3rdsister

          So true.  However, I suspect I’ll get more work done! :)

    • P M

      Finally – Don got to taste his own medicine! Let him feel how it is to worry about someone who goes AWOL, and to not know if they are okay, or hurt, or worse. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558631967 Ivona Foster

        I don’t think Don learned much. It was very telling that he still felt yelling at her and breaking down the door would get him anywhere, as opposed to admitting you screwed up. Correct me if I’m wrong but the closest he got to apologizing was “I thought I lost you” and again, that statement is all about him in all the wrong ways.

        • P M

           That’s our Don. Avoid responsibility, make the other person take on your burden, and be menacing.
          Sexy in fantasy, not so much in person.

    • P M

      I took Peggy’s Heinz outfit as her version of a suit. She’s even wearing a tie!

      Are Roger’s and Jane’s matching pink towels supposed to signify shared head-space / common mental & emotional ground?

      Megan’s childlike outfit only heightened her sense of vulnerability for me in that scene. Don could have REALLY hurt her.
      And it made me think: *she*, so much younger than him, has to help solve *his* childhood and mother issues (potentially, who knows what the problems really are??)

      Also, too bad we didn’t get to see what Grandma Paulina’s trips might have been like :D

      • Sweetbetty

         The matching towels have me wondering too.  Granted, it was funny as hell to see Roger wearing it, like something you’d see in a sit-com, but I couldn’t come up with any reason for him to actually put it on.  I hope someone can analyze that detail.

        • artstrim

          I imagine that he put the towel as a goof, copying her; that she had to help him, because it’s so perfect and identical to hers.  But visually for us it is the apex of their connection to each other in that shot from above.  for this brief moment, they really are in harmony here.  They are the only ones in harmony in the whole episode, but more importantly, it may be the only truly harmonic moment in their relationship.  They are relaxed and affectionate with each other, and they are speaking their hearts,  also probably for the first time.  So sad that Roger can’t see this as an opening, a maybe new beginning. He can only see it as an ending.  And then he’s so happy and free!  Faye said Don only likes beginnings. Maybe Roger only likes endings.

          • P M

             Yeah, well…… that’s Roger.

    • Jodie_S

      “It was a quirk of mid- late 1960s women’s styles – and you could have a field day postulating as to why; many others already have – that they were largely infantilized…”
      Interesting point for discussion.  It seemed to me that, in the 50s, young people wanted to appear older but, come the 60s, older folks wanted to look younger. I was in high school at the time but felt that the straight lines of the mod looks seemed liberating from the over-sexualized look of our parents’ generation. 

      Peggy, on the other hand, always dresses like a school girl or a working girl (with the emphasis on girl).  I can’t imagine that she couldn’t possibly afford a more fashionable dress from some more budget conscious store such as Lerners.  Her mode of dress reflects her conservatism (“square”).

      • http://www.aquatique.net/ Athena

         Someone on another forum quoted a line from a 1960s memoris “She looked younger as you only could in those days,” much like Roger looked younger in this episode. The 1950s did have a more mature and older look, and the social norms and expectations of socieites made it so but the 1960s were a reaction and people ‘loosened’ up and free themselves of the expectations of the previous decade.

        • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

          I agree that people in the ’50s looked older. I was shocked as a teenager to learn that Miss America was only a few years older than I was. The contestants looked so much older than their years.

      • Sweetbetty

         I’m wondering why Peggy hasn’t transitioned into nice women’s suits, especially for presentations to clients. 

        • Jessica Goldstein

          I’ll take a crack at this. To me, suits suggest authority and adulthood. Dr. Faye wore suits, and she projected authority and owned her adulthood/womanhood. Peggy started out dressed like a school-girl, and even though she wields more power now and had advanced in her career, you still don’t get the sense that she’s owning it. She’s still emulating Don and looking for his approval. I think dressing her in expensive and more sophisticated versions of school clothes underscores this point about her character development.

          • Sweetbetty

             Sounds good.  We, looking at her from our vantage point, would advise her to wear suits to establish her power and authority but since she still doesn’t see herself as having that she continues dressing as a step up from a schoolgirl.  Thanks.

      • rowsella

         I always thought the 1950′s poufy circle dresses Betty and Trudy wore were infantilizing.

        • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

          I always thought the length and fullness of skirts in the ’50s were a reaction to the ending of wartime rationing and the new postwar prosperity. The skimpiness of clothing in the ’30s reflected the depression which segued into WWII and rationing. Women could finally have as much fabric as they wanted and fashion became popular again. I never felt like a little girl in those clothes even though I was in junior high school.

          • Sweetbetty

             Right you are.  You can tell an early 40s garment from a WWII era garment by the amount of fabric used in it.  War-time skirts were shorter and not as full.  Up until the mid 60s there really wasn’t “teen” clothing.  You’ll see images of 50s girls wearing poodle skirts or rolled up jeans with their father’s big shirt and they’ll be accessorized by bobby socks and loafers or saddle shoes, but for the most part once kids started school they were dressed like miniature adults.  And once a woman reached adulthood a young housewife would dress pretty much the same as her mother and even her grandmother, unless those of the older generation were stuck in the styles of their youth.  I guess it was when the baby boomers reached their teens and had the power to influence fashion that “junior” fashion appeared.

            • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

              Sweetbetty, you have described my teenage wardrobe perfectly. However, you forgot to mention that we used red nail polish to write on those rolled up jeans.

              I worked in my family’s clothing store from 1955-61 and there was no difference in style between our teenage customers and the women who shopped there. Everyone wore the same styles. There were junior clothes then, but the designation referred to the size, not the age of the person wearing them. Juniors were the odd number sizes and had shorter waists and sleeves. As I write this, I’m realizing that they were probably the precursor of the petites of today,

            • Sweetbetty

               ” you forgot to mention that we used red nail polish to write on those rolled up jeans.”Well, that a new one to me.  What did you write with that red nail polish?

            • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

              Anything important to a 14-year-old girl, but mostly boyfriends’ names. One time I had run out of nail polish and without thinking of the consequences, used lipstick. Then I laid on the couch. You can only imagine the mess I made of it.

    • Eileen Mannion

      Surprised that you didn’t recognize the film Peggy saw with the stranger ~ “Born Free”, the docudrama about a lion cub raised in captivity and re-educated to live in the wild. Kind of like Peggy.

      • charlotte

        That movie was a flashback for me. Me and my friends used to watch it on VHS all the time when we were kids in the 90s. The lion cub was named Elsa. For some reason we were really crazy about it.

      • Marc Naimark

        Or Michael… 

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Dang. You are right.

      • Diane_Chambers

        I had to crack up at this.  They showed that movie to us in grade school in the early ’80s.  I think we played the theme song in band.  Not a sexy movie at all, Peggy!

        • Sweetbetty

           Yeah, it made me wonder why Peggy and the pot-smoking guy chose that movie out of all that were probably available to go to that afternoon.

    • Merridith Kristoffersen

      Lots of “warning:  danger ahead” orange in this episode.  Does anyone else think it’s weird that a French Canadian who speaks mostly French to her mother is named Megan?

      • Marc Naimark

        “Megan” could be a name she adopted when moving to work as an actress, to avoid being boxed in as “French”. I would have thought it an odd name for an American at the time. “Megan” was a top-ten name in the early 1990s, but back in the 1950s (earliest I can find) it was in the 800s. 

        But Mad Men doesn’t make mistakes… and it can’t be explained as adapting the character to the actress, since from the first episode, she identifies herself as “French”.

      • http://www.aquatique.net/ Athena

        Quebec has significant presence of Irish immigrants since the potato famine so it is not uncommon to have Irish/Gaelic names. I also think that from an educated background and Montreal, it’s not unheard of for her parents to give her a different. 

      • asciident

         Megan is actually Welsh, not Irish, in origin, but I imagine there may have been some Welsh immigrants into Quebec who brought the name over. The name was starting to escape Wales into the U.S. by the mid-century, but it wouldn’t be an especially popular name for decades.

        It’s an unusual choice of name for a French-Canadian family for a girl born circa 1940, I think. But not necessarily a mistake on the show’s part, either.

      • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

        I assumed it was probably a shortened American version of Marguerite, probably taken up for her acting career as an easier, more American name.  It’s a quick way to start assimilating into the culture and de-othering yourself.  I’ve known a Marguerite who went by Meg.  I can’t ever really hear her mother on the phone, because I’ve wondered about the name myself and would like to try and catch what her mother calls her.

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

        Who knows how people choose to name their kids? My Jewish mother, born in Pittsburgh in 1924, was named Gloria Juanita! Where the hell did that come from?

    • http://www.deborahwiles.com/ GoodSally

      Silly me. I didn’t notice Jane’s get-up had an exposed midriff. I thought she was wearing a flesh-colored belt.

      The whole scene in the car after Disneyland must be the way Don imagines it. Don asks her if she’s all right, and Megan responds, “I’m in shock,” which I took to mean she’s shocked about his proposal and the fact that they are engaged. And yet they seem fresh from the plane and on the way to take the kids home to Betty.

      Thank you for these oh-so-smart style posts. I love considering the show through a different framework. It enriches the experience. Sorta like those sugar cubes… 

      • Verascity

         I thought it was a belt, too! I had a “wait, what?” moment when I read the exposed midriff line.

      • astoriafan

        I’m really curious about the “in shock” line. I wonder if the proposal was originally supposed to take place in CA, and then they changed the setting to Don’s apartment–maybe that’s why the ride home from the airport was cut (if that report is true)?

        But then, if this scene is the cut one, it kind of undercuts the theory that the costuming and so on is based on Don’s inaccurate memory. 

        • http://www.deborahwiles.com/ GoodSally

          His inaccurate memory or reverie could include her saying “I’m shocked” in the car and getting the order of events mixed together in an idealized version of how he saw Megan then. In any case, it served as a great call-back to the Disneyland spilled milkshake scene and wake-up call for Don.

      • Sweetbetty

         One more person here who thought it was a belt. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

      Don has a serious Oedipus complex. Kind of fitting that he married his (former) secretary given that Joan said in the very first episode that secretaries were expected to be “something between a waitress and a mother”.

      • sweetlilvoice

        That line is one of the most ultimate truths on the show!

    • baxterbaby

      Sigh, how I love these posts.  There are usually several details I never noticed.

      What I especially appreciate about Mad Men’s costuming and design is that Janie Bryant et al obviously study a wide range of source material.  Sometimes I feel like a parrot cawing “I wore that” over and over, but details hit me viscerally.  Janie and Co. could have been combing through my family albums and school yearbooks.  These are not just cute retro looks crafted to flatter the players.  I often find myself thinking “real people, real clothes”.  Makes you realize how rare this is.

    • Lilak

      Oh my, all the glass and reflections in this episode!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/bob.bellamy Bob Bellamy

        What should also be noted, in almost (perhaps all, I need to re re-watch) of the reflections, the shadows from various sources, all seem to imply the characters are behind jail bars…Ginsberg with the concentration camp story, Don put in “time out” by Cooper, etc. I’m shocked I haven’t seen this brought up anywhere else…then again, perhaps I’m crazy! lol

        • Marc Naimark

          No, not crazy. It was really oppressive when the blinds/bars closed in on Don… a relief when that image changed. 

    • chibiguns

      It also bears mentioning that the husband of Jane’s therapist isn’t just any pretentious LSD user, Roger specifically addressed him as “Dr. Leary,” which has to be a reference to Timothy Leary, famous for advocating LSD’s therapeutic effects.  Yet another example of how Mad Men is great at throwing in cultural references without putting the spotlight on them.  His status would also further explain why Jane tried so hard to fit in at the party.

      • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

        We think a lot of people misread that. He was only sarcastically referring to him as Dr. Leary. Leary wasn’t married to a therapist in NYC.

        • BayTampaBay

          Was not Dr. Leary married to Uma Thurman’s mother, who was a model, at this time or am I on an acid trip?

          • asciident

            Dr Leary and Uma’s mom had divorced by 1965. At the time of this episode (September 1966, I believe), Leary hadn’t remarried yet. Leary was having people over for LSD trips in Millbrook, NY, but by this time he was either preparing or had left for his college tour. And anyway, Leary’s “parties” in Millbrook were described as more of a psychological experiment than a guided tour in expanding the mind. The therapist’s husband/host on Mad Men may have been a Leary friend/acquaintance, but I don’t think it was Leary himself.

      • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

        It’s a joke!

        • Maggie_Mae

          Roger Sterling told a joke?  Big surprise….

    • Lilak

      And that last shot:  Don alone in the conference room, behind glass, in the shadows, as the (younger) office world goes by – Peggy in one direction, Megan walking and talking with others (actually in conference) in another direction.  

      And what a sad silhouette – hunched and downcast – compared to the iconic black-and-white graphic we’ know so well: the relaxed, alpha male Don Draper silhouette.     

    • msdamselfly

      Jon Hamm was amazing in this episode.  Look at him in that last shot looking pale and tired compared to his usual entrance.

    • http://www.wordydoodles.com WordyDoodles

      The name of the host of that party, if I recall correctly, is Dr. Leary. I was racking my brain trying to think of when Jane would have met and befriended Timothy Leary and a circle of vaunted academics in New York, but Wikipedia is offering some very interesting clues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary

    • msdamselfly

      In a recent interview, Weiner said that Don’s love for Megan is true and something we’ve never seen from him.  Whereas most prognosticators are saying there marriage is on the brink. 

      • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

        These two ideas are not mutually exclusive. Not that we’re necessarily predicting the end of their marriage, but being truly in love with someone doesn’t always mean the relationship is healthy or will last.

        • Maggie_Mae

          “Love” is not always good.  It can make people do stupid things. 

          The marriage might still have a chance.  If Don takes Bert’s warning to heart & starts taking work seriously, that will help.  Because the conflict between Megan’s role as wife and her role at the office is one of their big problems as a couple. (That’s the Don/Megan couple, not the Don/Bert couple.)

    • http://twitter.com/cornekopia Shawn EH

      Good Lord, is that Bess Armstrong, hooking everyone up to the drugs? Talk about a flashback! She looks great.

      • BayTampaBay

        Did not Bess Armstrong (and Brooke Adams too) star with Phoebe Cates in a tacky 1980′s TV movie called Lace?  I think Cates played a soft-core porno star in the movie.

        • http://twitter.com/cornekopia Shawn EH

          She was also Claire Danes mom on My So-Called Life! But, yeah, she’s been around since the 1970s I think, hence my praise!

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          I forgot about LACE! I knew I remembered her from somewhere other than MS-CL… 
          That’s a movie I was WAY too young to have watched. :)

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          I forgot about LACE! I knew I remembered her from somewhere other than MS-CL… 
          That’s a movie I was WAY too young to have watched. :)

        • dress_up_doll

          Lace! Awesomely tacky movie. I’ll never forget Phoebe Cates’, “Which one of you bitches is my mother?”

    • alula_auburn

      Ooh, I remember thinking in the flashback scene that I was surprised Megan would wear gloves like that; the unreliable memory thing makes a lot of sense.  

      I immediately thought the same thing about how juvenile (but stylishly so) Megan’s outfit was in that awful apartment scene.  It definitely amped the horror factor (not that it needed to.)

    • BayTampaBay

      I think Michael is ahead of his time.  I have been in the real work motel work force since 1992 and every engineering firm I have worked for had several Michaels.  Most worked in the IT departments or designed weird things like sewage treatment plants.  They even dresses liked him…they wore what looked like new ties, button down shirts three sizes too big and jeans that were two+ sizes two big falling off their hips held up with a belt (better fitted for waist high pants) with an added touch of frayed and distressed hem because they were six inches too long.

    • Jen Miller

      Jane’s get up was VERY similar to a Liz Taylor look (scroll down a bit) http://thejewelryloupe.com/elizabeth-taylor-jewelry-auction-breaks-five-world-records/

    • msdamselfly

      I feel that part of Megans attractiveness to Don was as a playmate–his “inner child” was  finally free from the burden of guilt and shame he had been caring.  In the “milkshake ” scene, when Megan says “it’s only a milkshake”,  it was an attitude that was redeeming for Don as well as the children.
      Don wants to be accepted unconditionally. So when Megan gets angry at him, he feels criticized and punished again.  In his mind, he was only being loving towards her.   

    • theotherTLO

      TLo, totally surprised you didn’t mention the coat Peggy has on in several scenes – the green/blue raincoat she has on when she meets Michael’s “dad” and later when she calls Abe.  It’s her version of the sad blue coat.  She wore it in the Suitcase ep when she and Don had the big fight over her work failure (like her work failure this time, only without the fight yet), her fight with a boyfriend (dumped Mark last time), and her choice to put work before love (just like last time).  Not sure what to think of it beyond that, but in my second watching of the ep yesterday I was struck by the prominence of that coat appearing again.

      • http://www.joannao.blogspot.com JoannaOC

         Yes, I adore that raincoat, and the bluegreen color is similar to the outfit Jane has on in bed with Roger. I’m surprised it’s not included in the round-up.

      • Kathleen Tripodi

         Not only was the coat a callback, there was a very similar-looking scene in the bathroom in both episodes where she’s standing by the yellow soap dispensers.

    • NurseEllen

      Wow, amazing pickup of Ted Knight/Baxter in the magazine photo!  Visually, this was a very rich episode.  I gasped when they walked into the HoJo, remembering how many times we stopped there when I was a child & my family took a road trip.  We always thought it was hot stuff.  The guys with the paper hats behind the counter–the blue swivel chairs–the clam strips!  Wow.  I also loved that the backgrounds were period perfect–note the word “Cocktails” on the marquee–and the Gulf service station sign.

      Jane’s outfit: I have to admit it took a few shots of it before I realized it was two joined pieces.  Initially I thought there was a strip of contrasting color material behind the glittery midsection!  LOL.  The second I read “I Dream of Jeannie” in your recap I slapped my forehad and said, “of COURSE”!  Thanks for pointing out what should have been obvious to me.  Really, it’s right down to the hair.  And Roger is a WWII veteran.  Just imagine him in his uniform, and Jane/Jeannie saying, “Yes, Master”.

      Peggy is really being visually cued as Don Jr., as well as acting like him: vest, pockets, cigarettes, afternoon nap on the couch, afternoon quickie…..is she being set up for a fall, just as happened to Don? 

    • http://asskickingadviser.com/ Ass Kicking Adviser

      If Janie can’t use that coral dress set on Megan anymore can I have it? No? But whyyyyy???? (she whined).

      I love you guys. Great post – thank you!

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Grand analysis, Tom and Lorenzo, and very interesting, though-provoking comments by the Bitter Kittens.  Isn’t it super that this show really makes us think?  The attention to details and the messages that those details send – Weiner and Company must have chunky binders/folders of background material and connections from one episode and season to another.  Wouldn’t it be a blast to mine those?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UXHOYXPNJJ4MQH6IHYSI3G5ILI M

      The therapist was the mom from My So-Called Life!  That is all.

    • mariavii

      I *have* that blue dress worn by the woman crawling on the floor – only it is yellow silk and the jeweled trim is emerald green and deep purple (individually sewn on jewels!).  It was found (along with other fabulous pieces) in my great aunt’s closet and is an amazing treasure.  It has a broken zipper so I have not worn it, but I was thrilled to see one so similar on screen.

      • Kathleen Tripodi

        In the name of all that is good and right in the world, get that zipper fixed!

        • mariavii

           Not until I shed the 10 lbs needed to fit into it!  It’s my carrot.

    • http://twitter.com/AilatanMyopic Ailatan

      I don’t think it’s a mistake in the wardrobe department, they were coming from Disneyland and Don asked her if she was cold, it seems that she threw on whatever warm clothes she could find, when not having a huge selection of winter clothes. Or maybe you are right and it’s a way of making see things through Don’s eyes. 

      • Melissad75

         I’m pretty sure the brownish coat Megan wears in the flashback is the same one she threw over her shoulders when she and Don were on the hotel balcony in “Tomorrowland.”  You can see it here:http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/mmkiss.jpg.  So I don’t think it’s a mistake — on the contrary, it’s good continuity, as I’d expect from Janie Bryant. :)

    • http://twitter.com/zultrablue z

      Megan’s brown and white dress was a great call back to the zebra in “Born Free” — chased by Don, the motherless cub who does not know his own strength, around the savannah of their apartment.

      Also, Peggy in the hand washing scene was visually so similar to the shot in “The Suitcase” — complete with soap dispenser. She didn’t have her hat though. Lost innocence?
      http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2010/09/mad-style-the-suitcase-2.html

      Every time I see yellow this season I think of death.

    • HeatherD9

      I’d love a peek at those “costume binders” as well.  Actually, I’d really love to look at Janie B.s “inspiration boards” for ea character.  Fabric swatches, photos, drawings — oh my!

      On a different note… ITA with the comment re the resemblance to Dr Faye earlier.  Maybe that was because I had her on my mind when I saw Peggy’s Heinz outfit. Most esp the bold scarf in gold, black & white.  It made me think of Faye’s blouse in Season4ep10 Hands & Knees.  Glad to see her looking a bit more pulled together (if tightly wound) than the sloppy Harry shirts & drab skirts!

      Thanks again TLO for making my morning!

    • bellafigura1

      Another brilliant analysis, thank you.  I so enjoy!

    • AZU403

      You guys have us so well trained that throughout the episode I was thinking, “Orange… blue… orange… blue…”

    • Erica Mogle

      I know you usually point out the make-up in the context of what was in style, but I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned how well the make-up techs have handled Jane Sterling/Peyton List through the past few seasons. When you did the Mad Style for Jane, “Jane looks like a girl playing a dress-up” was a theme running through her wardobe stylings, and for the first few episodes, she still looked like a very young lady.

      When I saw her in “Christmas Come But Once a Year”, I gasped. The little girl was gone, replaced by someone who was much harder, much icier, and appeared older than she really was. In real life, actress Peyton List is only 25. In the show, Jane Sterling looks like a trophy wife who has hardened under the pressure of being stuck with Roger. It was finally at the end of Roger and Jane’s little trip that I started to see Jane Siegel again. The LSD stripped those layers away, metaphorically.

      The clothing for this show is fantastic, but the story the make-up department told through Jane is damn phenomenal.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        She looked so beautiful the next morning!

    • http://www.wordydoodles.com WordyDoodles

      I found myself wondering how and when Jane befriended Dr. Leary and this group of academics. It surprised me that she was running with this crowd, which isn’t one that’s normally so open to outsiders. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558631967 Ivona Foster

        Jane is the patient of the female host/ therapist

        • http://www.wordydoodles.com WordyDoodles

           Right! But I still found it interesting that she’d be invited into their home as a guest. This is the famous Dr. Timothy Leary, isn’t it? I guess I thought there’s be more comments about this being Dr. LSD Leary himself. Such a 60s icon.

          • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

            Go up a few posts for some other perspectives. :)

            • http://www.wordydoodles.com WordyDoodles

              Just saw them! Hurrying to post. :)

              Still fascinates me, though, that she was interacting so deeply with this ring of academics and thinkers. This is a world I’m familiar with, and in many disciplines, they wouldn’t invite her to be part of this conversation unless they felt confident in her ability to participate and contribute. I wonder what her background is that inspired that confidence in them. It’d be quite an interesting backstory to know (besides just being a patient of the hostess).

              And after seeing such depth of character and nuance in Jane, I’ll be sorry to see her go.

            • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

              Her therapist had them over. It was in the context of her introducing patients to the then-legal LSD. Totally fits into the context of the times, as unethical as it seems/was. I don’t think Jane needed to be her intellectual equal to be invited.

          • judybrowni

            That’s not Timothy Leary himself. Calling him “Dr. Leary” was Roger’s little joke.

          • Sweetbetty

             And that’s just why I *don’t* think the host is Dr. Timothy Leary.  There would have been much more made of it and outside references, like when Conrad Hilton and Don crossed paths.

          • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

            Argh! It’s not literally Timothy Leary. Just wrote another post about that. 

      • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

        Would that this misconception never arose due to Roger’s joke…. 

        The man in that scene is unequivocally NOT supposed to be Timothy Leary. By 1966 Leary was famous in his own right, a household name in lots of households, and LSD was a big news story (two “Life” cover stories just that year, for example). Roger is joking, talking to no one in particular, when he makes that crack about Leary. It’d be like someone trying a Wendy’s burger and saying, “Your product doesn’t interest me, Mr. Thomas” or whatever, since Dave Thomas is the known face of Wendy’s. Leary is not there; he’s just the most famous proponent of LSD, so Roger invokes his name. 

        If you know this period in history, you know that Leary wasn’t hosting pretentious dinner parties in swank apartments in 1966. And the guy looks nothing like Leary. Jane is “hanging around with” them (not really, she’s just at a dinner party) because the woman in the couple is her therapist.

        Sorry to be so adamant and long-winded, but it’s just so clear to me that it’s not literally supposed to be Leary, and I’ve seen this in several places online now. (I know, I know… “But, but someone is wrong on the Internet!” I should chill.)

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LSGDWPRY6JLBPB43EO6MIAURZI what

           Yeah, well, thanks for the clarification Einstein.

          …heh-heh…get it?…it’s a little joke =)…

        • http://www.wordydoodles.com WordyDoodles

          I’m sorry! I’m sorry! Totally my bad.

        • Sweetbetty

          From an interview in GQ magazine with Mad Men Producers Maria and André Jacquemetton:

           “GQ: And was it your idea to actually throw Timothy Leary in there?

          André: No, it was Matt’s.”

    • http://www.joannao.blogspot.com JoannaOC

      Hah! just noticed that the pills scattered on the magazine in the LSD party scene look like the jeweled ornamentation on the sleeves of the dress. The orange of the HoJo decor and Megan’s dress is also picked up in the orangey panel in the apartment when Megan is dressed in brown, and in the door/wall of the SCDP hallway when Don and Megan walk in together, as if the orange has been expelled from Megan’s person and replaced with the brown.

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      In the leadup to the LSD party, I was almost wondering if they were going to a swinging/key kind of party. Or is it too early for that? All I could tell, is that this was clearly not a typical “hanging out with friends” situation.

    • AZU403

      Wow, I didn’t catch that. So if Bess Armstrong is old enough to be a matronly psychiatrist, I must be…. how old??

      • Logo Girl

        Not sure, but I feel really old that I remember Bess Armstrong not so much from “My So Called Life” but from being on TV in the late 70s. I guess it would have been from a short lived “career gal” sitcom called “On Our Own” from the 70s. I got the details when I looked it up, but she actually played a character who worked at… an ad agency.

        • Sweetbetty

           I remember that show too and I also remember her being in a movie called “The Four Seasons” with Alan Alda and Carol Burnett, among others.  She played a Megan-like young, new girlfriend to a middle-aged man in that.  I never saw one episode of “My So-called Life” so I would never have recognized her if someone else hadn’t brought her up.

    • MaryMG

      My theory about why Michael Ginsberg’s look (so wildly inappropriate for the time and place) is tolerated is that he works cheap. They don’t talk about it much but the firm’s finances can’t be all that great still and considering how unhappy most of the clients are these days, the outlook can’t be that bright either. Layne is still stiffing his wife from writing checks, as far as I know. Don and Peggy have probably vouched for Michael’s worth as a creative and everyone is overlooking the jeans, etc. because he is working for peanuts. Otherwise I can’t see Roger not sending him off to a suit maker ASAP.

      • Sweetbetty

         I remember when Don hired Michael he told him to go see Layne about the salary.  I thought that was really odd, for the salary not to be established at the time of the offer.  True, Michael did seem to almost be willing to work under Don Draper for nothing, so maybe that’s why it was understood they could offer him below standard pay.

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

        Michael would have been expected to wear appropriate clothes. Since most people of the time adhered to the same dress code, those clothes could be found at any price point, even if at a second-hand store.

    • Jasmaree

      I never noticed that the “belt” of Jane’s outfit was actually a strip of her exposed belly. Man, I wish I could pull off something like that today. She looked fantastic and youthful.

      The idea that Don is remembering Megan the wrong way explains one of the qualms I had with that scene. Those fabrics seem too heavy and wintry for the season that this memory supposedly took place (Wasn’t this in the summer?) 

      • Sweetbetty

         I seem to remember it being established that it was Columbus Day weekend.  October can be iffy in the northeast and it looks like the weather took a turn for the cold when they arrived back in NY from CA.

    • http://www.facebook.com/desiree.tinder Desiree Tinder

      Hey look at you guys and your eponymous blog over on Slate this morning! 

    • Anastasia_B

      A question about the LSD party – did anybody else notice that reel-to-reel recorder? We saw it and then we heard music and so at first I thought that was where the music was coming from, but then we saw the record being changed on the turntable and so I realized it was an album. So – was the evening’s trip audio recorded by the therapist?

    • Anastasia_B

      A question about the LSD party – did anybody else notice that reel-to-reel recorder? We saw it and then we heard music and so at first I thought that was where the music was coming from, but then we saw the record being changed on the turntable and so I realized it was an album. So – was the evening’s trip audio recorded by the therapist?

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        Nice catch!!! I did notice both but didn’t put it together!

      • barbarasingleterry

        Probably was being recorded.  Therapists did that kind of thing in those days, especially with being an experimental situation.  Did you notice the note the Roger held?  LSD was such an experiment that it was needed just in case something went wrong. As a kid, we were told scary stories about bad trips and ending up in the psyche ward.

      • barbiefish

        I wasn’t picking up on the recording angle but noted that the type of reel-to-reel recorder the hosts had was a very high-end, audiophile component to have in one’s stereo system in the 60s and 70s, demonstrating their affluence and “trendiness”.

    • BradWatson

      Apologies if someone else noted it – but that capture of Don & Megan speaking with the Hojo guy – FABULOUS!  She’s all boxed in, framed – if you will; and he’s got the word EXIT over his head.

    • Jackie Woodworth

      Love that TLo pointed to the yellow roses – I went ooooOOOOOoooh when I saw Jane clutching that yellow rose. In Victorian painting symbolism a yellow rose stood for “untrue love” or “adultery” – there’s a famous portrait of Lillie Langtry (when she was cheating on her husband with the future King of England, of all people) holding a white rose at arm’s length and a yellow rose to her heart. It just seems right that Jane keeps hold of a yellow rose all night the night her marriage ends.

      • http://twitter.com/duxrock Just Ducky

        That is soooooo interesting! Remember the woman Don strangled (Andrea) In “Mystery Date” . . . yellow dress. Random . . . but I believe the one, lone nursing student who survived the Richard Speck murders . . . was wearing yellow (murders took place in a yellowish brick Chicago townhouse).

    • Jackie Woodworth
    • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

      It worth noting that every man Peggy interacts with that day where she feels in control or comfortable is reinforcing her blue/gold color scheme.  Stan and Ken all call back to it in more muted tones during the pitch.  The guy in the movie theatre’s pants are blue and mustard and orange.  When she interacts with Ginsberg, she has two moments of conflict and one moment of revelation, and it’s in that last moment alone that he’s wearing that blue/yellow jacket that calls back to her outfit.  Even at the end when she calls Abe, who early was wearing no color (or black pants), he’s framed against these blue and gold paisley drapes.  It seems too deliberate to be coincidence.

      • Sweetbetty

         ” Even at the end when she calls Abe, who early was wearing no color”
        Ooo-ooo…I wanted to point out that at the beginning of the show when Abe was getting out of Peggy’s bed that he was wearing tightie-whities.  We hardly ever see that on TV; the guys always seem to be wearing boxers unless it’s played for a deliberate laugh. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

          It’s a shame we don’t see the men of Mad Men in their underwear more often (…for many reasons), because I’d like to see what men’s undergarments were like.  I don’t know when boxers became de rigueur.  I imagine they came more into prominence as clothing became more relaxed, since briefs would keep the line of slacks more natural.

          • Sweetbetty

             When I was growing up in the 50s and 60s my brother and my dad both wore briefs and then my husband and the few other men I’d have occasion to see in that state wore briefs too.  I only ever saw boxers on TV and in movies for many years.  Now it seems that boxers are the thing.  It’s become a tradition for me to give my grandsons (20 and 21) the loudest briefs I can find for Christmas gifts.  But when they were toddlers and grade-school aged they wore briefs.

            • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

              I think it’s partly regional as well.  My family is European and the men (as far as I know from the laundry room) have all worn briefs; every non-American boyfriend I’ve had wore briefs as well.  I wonder if part of the prevalence of boxers on TV is also because they’re less revealing than briefs or their cousins, boxer-briefs.  Then style follows media among the masses.

            • Sweetbetty

               ” I wonder if part of the prevalence of boxers on TV is also because they’re less revealing than briefs”         I always assumed that was the reason.  When you do see briefs now it’s usually for comedic or gross-out effect.  Somehow I just don’t see Don Draper wearing briefs though; have we ever seen his underwear?

            • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

              I never understood that.  Clean briefs on a good butt are way more attractive than boxers, so the comedy is sort of lost on me.  “I see.  He’s wearing underwear.  How humorous.”

              We have seen Don’s underwear, season 4 episode Waldorf Stories, and it’s a big pair of white boxers.  Same for Roger and Duck.  Ken surprisingly wears boxers, but Abe and Stan wear briefs.  A symptom of the younger generation  or counter-establishment?  How many times have we seen the younger guys without their pants on?

            • Sweetbetty

               Barbara, I *love* that you’ve made a study of the men’s underwear on this show :-)  Clean briefs on a good butt are fine but when used for a laugh they usually don’t fit correctly, are not on a good butt, and the front view can be used for great effect.

            • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

              Never before has boxers vs briefs been so fraught with symbolism and cultural import!

              Thinking back, we’ve never seen Pete Campbell without pants.  What does *that* bundle of conflicting self-images wear?

            • Melissa Brogan

               We’ve seen Don in his shorts. He wears boxers.

            • http://profiles.google.com/ameliaheartsu Amelia Logan

              I am in my 20s all the boys I’ve seen in their undies all seemed to have a personal preference, but I see more 45%-boxers/40%-boxer briefs/15%-briefs. It’s kind of fun finding out what kind of underwear someone wears!

            • Ogden1990

              Ha! Do you keep a little spreadsheet on boys undies? ;-)

            • http://howtofaint.tumblr.com/ How to Faint

              That is both the funniest and creepiest question I’ve seen here. :D

            • Sweetbetty

               How many go commando?

          • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

            This is a really interesting topic, I think. I think by the 60s boxers were seen as square and old-mannish by most young people. My father, born in 1940 and fairly attuned to trends, always wore briefs when I was growing up and thinks it’s odd that boxers are now most popular. I find it really interesting that boxers, like manual razors, were once thought to be confined to the dustheap of history and now are far and away the most popular mode d’emploi.

            • judybrowni

              Yes, tighty whities were considered sexier than boxers. Boxers for old men, only.

              Boxers would have bunched up under tight jeans, for one.

              By the ’70s, they’d be tighty colored, even bikini style for men.

        • barbiefish

          I’m a year older than the Sally character and my dad always wore white, baggy boxers.  My brother (Sally’s age) always wore briefs growing up so it seemed like the dichotomy then (50s and 60s) was grown men = boxers, boys = briefs.  (I doubt they made boxer shorts for kids then.)

    • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

      I looked up Roger’s address of 31 E. 66th Street. While that address doesn’t exist in the real world, its closest equivalent is the Oscar de la Renta on the Upper East Side (at the corner of Madison), which Racked says is “the most expensive store in the nation.” You can Google the link.

      • http://twitter.com/duxrock Just Ducky

        Totally random . . . but the 31st week of 1966 (or any year!) is in October. Did they say what month this episode took place in? I just thought the 31 E 66th Street (66 for the year) may be significant some way (metaphorically). I’m sure the address is meant to be literal, as well. We know Roger and Jane would live in opulent fashion.

        • Sweetbetty

           Seems to me is was established somewhere in the discussions that this episode was set in late July or early August.  Maybe it was a bit later, though, since Megan put on her chevron coat and Peggy was wearing a raincoat.  Something tells me it wasn’t as late as October, though the flashback of them returning from Disneyland was in October of the previous year.

          • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

            No, no, this episode is set in September. We’ve already been through early August
            with the last episode (the crash of Braniff Flight 250, briefly
            mentioned by Pete, was August 6th). The biggest clue is the announcer on
            Don’s radio as he’s driving home (“record low temperatures for September for Slide Mountain and Roxbury…”)

            You’re right that “Tomorrowland” was set in October 1965. I’m dorky enough that I looked up the weather in NYC in October 1965, and it’s odd they are wearing those heavy coats, as it never got that cold, especially not around Columbus Day, when it’s supposedly set. Ah well.

            Not really seeing the symbolism of “31″ in relation to a month, but maybe it’s there.

            • Sweetbetty

               Argh, yes, I remember the radio announcer now.  I *knew* that something had established the month; just couldn’t remember what.  So, it was cool enough for Megan and Peggy to put on lightweight coats due to the record lows for September :-).

        • LuluinLaLa

          I think it was September, because when Don was driving, the radio said something about record cold temps for September.

    • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

      It all makes sense now. This must be it. Sally looks younger too.

    • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

      I think it looks a bit more 50s-ish in part because they’re wearing coats, which people keep for years and were not yet super-stylish.

    • http://twitter.com/Fotstan Joe Johnson

      This.

    • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gabriella M

      Just wanted to note – that’s an Hermés scarf she’s carrying in the last scene, isn’t it? I wonder if Megan will wear it in a scene with Peggy and call back to the scarf that Peggy didn’t get to keep and further emphasize the difference in wealth undermining her stature.

      • http://profiles.google.com/ameliaheartsu Amelia Logan

        that’s what I thought.

    • AudreysMom

      Love. this.

      Besides remembering all of those clothes (especially Megan’s final dress that I believe I wore in junior high school about that time), I’m struck by those HoJo colors that appear everywhere, including the pieta shot (lamp, deck cushion). Boy, Megan has that place pegged perfectly: it was a stop, not a destination.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=lf UltimaEsperenza

      And the Howard Johnson trip was meant to be an extension of that perfect Megan that cleaned up Sally’s spilled milkshake in California without having a Betty meltdown….but instead she shoved sherbert in her mouth and had a tantrum.  Not that she was WRONG, but she certainly needs to sit with Joan and learn how to handle inappropriate men/behavior in a fashionable way. 

      • Sweetbetty

         That’s putting the burden on the woman to submit to the man’s bad behavior.  Why not suggest that Don sit down with someone and learn how to deal with his wife without making her feel marginalized.

        • http://profiles.google.com/ameliaheartsu Amelia Logan

          thank youuu

        • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=lf UltimaEsperenza

          But that has been the dynamic of Don’s relationships with women. And it was also a common viewpoint of THOSE times. In this (pseudo) enlightened age, we know that our gender roles don’t include such “burdens” and that we are free to view ourselves as we wish.

        • Maggie_Mae

          It’s too bad that Megan chose to regress to childish behavior with the Sherbet Display.  She would rather demonstrate what it was to be “marginalized” (although that buzzword hadn’t yet been invented), than to continue arguing about the very real problems on her mind. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LSGDWPRY6JLBPB43EO6MIAURZI what

             I think that Don wasn’t “getting it” after all her polite yet very straight talk about how she didn’t want to leave work (which was ignored) didn’t want a plastic back scratcher as a gift (..why don’t you give it to Bobby…) (which was somewhat scoffed at) didn’t want sherbert for desert (which she was chastised for) and when she YET AGAIN conceded and then gave her honest opinion of it, she was set upon as publicly humiliating him.
            She didn’t argue about any of it ever, much less be able “…to continue arguing about the very real problems on her mind” because Don had already made it abundantly clear that what she said/how she felt didn’t really matter to him.
             I think, by that point, Don had made it very clear to her that the only thing that he would “get” or understand would be to actually receive the public humiliation that he already believed he was experiencing anyway.
            Hence the drama with the sherbert.

            When it finally did escalate to arguing and she requested that they stay there and continue the argument on the somewhat neutral grounds of the HJ parking lot, he would only allow it to happen if she got into the car with him while he could be driving because this man is all about control. Naturally, when she refused, he simply disgarded her completely, like a piece of trash, on the side of the road.
            “I’m shocked” said the Megan in the flashback, and no doubt – she was.
            This is what ‘family life’ is really like with the good ‘ol Mr. Don Draper.

            There’s simply no use arguing with people who are like that, and I think by this point in their relationship Megan was smart enough to know that although, up until he abandoned her, she didn’t know to what extent.
            It had literally become ‘my way or the highway’ for Megan.
            So again, I think she fully realizes at this point in the show that there’s simply no point in arguing with someone who’s like that, which is why I also believe that the sheepish grins they exchanged before separating at the office the next day were merely an example of the thin venere that people put on in an act of going through the motions, as nothing more occured between them in terms of resolution other than to pick themselves up off the floor and head out the door forwork after the abusive chase scene.

            IMO anyway.

    • Melissad75

      I tried to post this earlier, but it doesn’t seem to have shown up. Apologies if it’s a duplicate comment!

      Anyway, I’m pretty sure the brownish coat Megan wears in the flashback is the one she threw over her shoulders out on the hotel balcony in “Tomorrowland.” So I don’t think it was a costuming mistake — in fact it’s really good continuity, as we can always expect with Janie Bryant.

      • astoriafan

        You’re right about the coat; I checked. :) Good eye!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=608416678 Jenny Jackson White

      I just love how Megan’s and Don’s clothes matched the Howard Johnson decor.

    • CC06

      Saw exerpt of your Mad Style post on Slate.com.  Congratulations on expanding your audience base even further!

    • http://profiles.google.com/phyllis.craine Phyllis Craine

      If Peggy’s beige top is vintage I bet it has a matching skirt and instead of a silk tie it was worn with a metal chain.  And maybe originally worn sleeveless, hence the tight armsyce.

      • Sweetbetty

         I don’t think so.  Look at the pic above of her lying down; you can see that there are slits in the chest area for the tie to go through.  Maybe you could change out the tie but the top was made to be worn with one.

    • AWStevens

      I KNEW IT WAS TED KNIGHT!  :-)  Thank you again Tlo for helping us linger on and on over the latest Mad Men ep…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sally-Haldorson/1602757343 Sally Haldorson

      Wondering if the orange chevrons of Megan’s outfit were meant to mimic HoJo’s roof because of what she said

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

      I soooo want Jane to run into Margaret (we haven’t seen her in a few years…) somewhere. I know it’ll never happen, but boy do I want to see that.

      • juliamargaret

        Which Margaret? You don’t mean Mona, do you?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

      This was the era when LSD was used as a psychiatric medication and a creative/aesthetic exploration for aging bohemians, not yet a hippy thing. I don’t think the blotter paper thing was happening yet — it was still a liquid that you administered with a dropper. So a sugar cube was probably the ideal delivery mechanism. That said, this is probably less than a year before the Majic Bus, Owlsley, and the events documented in The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.So the blotter paper is on its way…

      • Maggie_Mae

        Owsley Stanley produced his first LSD in May, 1965.  The Wikipedia article states he began supplying Ken Kesey & his Pranksters in September of that year.  But that was Way Out West….  

        Wouldn’t blotter paper be just another way to distribute the drug in liquid form? 

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LSGDWPRY6JLBPB43EO6MIAURZI what

           Yes blotter paper is just another way, but that occurred in order for it to be mass produced. It’s a way that’s cheaper and easier in all respects. The desire for mass production didn’t occur until later on.

          And re: The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, I met Stewart Brand – one of the original Merry Pranksters – (the one who drove the bus) in a hotel in Atlanta a few years ago. Now, this isn’t completely off topic so…hang in there…

          He told me about how he still did peyote occasionally with the American Indians out west, that he lives on a barge out in SF bay (I think?) and also about this very ambitious project he’s been working on called “The Clock Of The Long Now”.
          Now,  as the creator of the Whole Earth Catalog some years ago it wouldn’t be unusual for him to be somewhat familiar with the ins and outs of advertising but, as he went into great detail about this project, he spoke of how important it was for the “participants” to have what’s known as a take away – a tangible memento – in order for the visit to continue to resonate with the person who experienced it. Something physical for them to see and handle, for them to reflect upon.
          When I asked him what he’d like that to be, he went on in depth, like a true marketer/adman (which surprised me for some reason) about how it should be cheap to produce, small enough to carry, preferably made in America, etc., etc., etc., and that ultimately he decided that it would maybe be a pine cone from the surrounding woods where the clock is to be located.
          “A pine cone?” I asked to which he responded “Yes, a pine cone, it fulfills all the requirements and it won’t at all be cost prohibitive to the visitors, although, even the places that are cost prohibitive for some leave them with a somewhat ‘free’ take away in the form of an entrance ticket once they can pay to get in.”
          I thought about this for a moment and then said “oh yeah, like people might save their Broadway Theater tickets…” to which his response was “Broadway tickets? No… I was thinking more like the tickets you get from…”
          ….
          ****WAIT FOR IT****
          …..

          “DISNEYLAND!”.

          LMAO!

          You see what just happened there ^^ ?
          With this ‘bitter kitten’ and this particular Mad Men episode???
          With the Dr. Leary/LSD connection via Stewart (+ personal exper.), and the tie to the episodes time theme via his Clock Of The Long Now, as well as the ‘adverlingus’ jargon he used to explain it all to me, and the final mention of “Disneyland!”…
          Hmmm…does that mean I’m having a ‘Draperesque’ flashback of my own?

          Well, as the ever dapper and eloquent Tim Gunn would say:
           “Everything happens for a reason!”
          LOL Bitches! XD

          • ldancer

            I think the Clock Of The Long Now is a collaboration with Brian Eno, am I right? I seem to remember reading about it in Eno’s book of essays years ago.

            Tangent.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

      This was the era when LSD was used as a psychiatric medication and a creative/aesthetic exploration for aging bohemians, not yet a hippy thing. I don’t think the blotter paper thing was happening yet — it was still a liquid that you administered with a dropper. So a sugar cube was probably the ideal delivery mechanism. That said, this is probably less than a year before the Majic Bus, Owlsley, and the events documented in The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.So the blotter paper is on its way…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

      I can’t speak for guys, but I’m a lady living in Brooklyn (not Williamsburg), and I call this stuff my Dead Lady In Pittsburgh clothes. There’s a vintage shop around the corner from my apartment where the aesthetic is late 50′s/early 60′s, and the woman who owns it has an eerie amount of stuff in exactly my measurements. I tell my friends I have a dead doppleganger in the midwest. That said, wouldn’t Michael Ginsberg be in his 60′s now? While obviously people die, I doubt he’d be the “Dead Stymiee”. HThat would be his father.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

      Michael wore jeans to his INTERVIEW at SCDP. Which I thought was insane when I noticed it. I’ve worn jeans to job interviews a few times (21st century), and I still never know whether that’s appropriate. And I work in a far more creative/renegade field than advertising.

      • judybrowni

        TLo are right about the jeans: highly likely for a job interview, or office wear in 1966. A misstep on Janie’s part.

        Were forbidden even in my public school, and my first year of state college for classes in 1968!

        • AliciaChamisa

          I was in art school/college in ’66 and jeans were only allowed for studio art labs like painting or printmaking, not even for the art history classes. And not to be worn all day, just for the lab…

      • greenwich_matron

        Don’t you mean “dungarees”?

      • sez369

         This interview with a Mad Men costumer sheds some light on the jeans thing:
        http://www.gq.com/style/blogs/the-gq-eye/2012/04/mad-props-mad-mens-michael-ginsberg.html

        • Sweetbetty

           I can understand why Michael wore the jeans but I still can’t accept that he wouldn’t have been spoken to about it.  I also found another interview at the GQ site that answers a few questions that have been posed here.  It seems that actually was Dr. T. Leary (character) and the HoJo is a real building still standing in LA.  http://tinyurl.com/77o2to9

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=584364405 Sabrina Abhyankar

        Advertising is plenty creative. Renegade maybe no. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587271680 Sara Clarke

      I work in the film industry in 2012, and jeans are basic officewear. Especially for men. But it’s an extremely casual, creative, and youthful field. And there are days when I feel like it would be more professional not to wear them.

    • malarkey

      “It was a quirk of mid- late 1960s women’s styles – and you could have a field day postulating as to why; many others already have – that they were largely infantilized; like this schoolgirl dress, sporting naive detailing like bold sash details and big buttons.  She could add some brightly colored hosiery and a pair of Mary Janes and be wearing something perfectly fashionable for an 8-year-old and a 25-year-old at the same time.”

      This is really interesting as it brought up something I noticed: I work with a mix of ages (thank god) and we have casual fridays (because we are a consultancy, we have to dress ‘professionally’ for client meetings Mon-Thurs) So on casual friday, I’ve seen the younger and not so younger wearing this “school girl” look. And I remember hearing someone (who is viewed as very fashion aware) saying to one of her friends “oh what you are wearing is so cute, yes, it’s the school girl look” ~ …

      These women haven’t a CLUE about clothes that infantilize the wearer. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if I brought that up, that they would give me the deer in the headlights look. How quickly we forget. One of these women is 40, or very close to it and I’m almost 55. I’m aware of what that school girl look means, but she isn’t. 

      How sad that women abandoned so quickly the gains of the equality movement.

      • Verascity

         What is this comment? I don’t even understand. I wear “cute” stuff, school girl-type stuff, and I’m one of the biggest soapbox feminists I know. Yeah, my wearing colored tights and ponytails, that really negates the work I do for women’s equality…

      • 3hares

        Why would you think the women don’t know what “school girl look” means or don’t understand infantilizing? They were once school girls. I have some outfits that are somewhat that style–sweater and shorter plaid skirt in my case, with tights. The style can exist outside of the male infantilizing fantasy too. I think we might be also getting into a conflict between women dressing for themselves and dressing for men. (I want to say something about Lolita fashions here, but I honestly don’t know enough about it and I doubt the women in your office would be wearing that.)

    • Lattis

      Love your overview of the visual motifs in this ep, T&Lo – the yellow rose, the floor shots, etc. 

    • Lattis

      A question:

      Is that shot of the Howard Johnson restaurant exterior (with the big orange roof) a location shot or is it photoshopped? It’s been a long time since I have lived east of the Mississippi, and Howard Johnson’s aren’t in the area where I now live. But, it seems like most restaurants from that era have been redone and updated many times since 1966 – so that even places that have some trademark architectural element (like McDonald’s arches) have been redesigned and incorporated in a different way than they originally were. Like the first McDonald’s I ate in the 60′s, which had huge arches that curved up and over the restaurant – now McDonald’s uses the double arches as a logo not as an architectural element. 

      Does Howard Johnson still have those big orange roofs? Did they shoot that scene at a real location?

      • barbiefish

        I live in southern Virginia and there is a classic-look (orange peaked roof etc.) HoJo restaurant in my small city.  It and the accompanying motel stayed part of the HoJo chain until fairly recently.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/BZ4VK5DIV7VMK6OUG7FWHPYXOI Carol

        It’s a real location in the LA area.  It’s no longer a Howard Johnsons but it still has the orange roof.

    • http://twitter.com/jeefington jeff hong

      in the flashback she looks a lot like Betty no? From the hair to the clothes

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LSGDWPRY6JLBPB43EO6MIAURZI what

         I couldn’t help but think that she looked more like Betty’s new mother in law, with that coat, gloves, and those large clip on earings.

    • barbiefish

      I wasn’t really paying attention to the recording part — my notice of the reel-to-reel recorder is that it was a very expensive and high-status audiophile kind of stereo component to own in the 60s and 70s, so I took it to be another clue to the hosts’ affluence and desire to be “trendy” for those times.

    • Maggie_Mae

      Thank you. 

      Janie Bryant has obviously done intense research on historical costume.  But she will depart from the “average” & ignore what “everybody” wore in those days for purposes of character building.  Mad Men is art, not a documentary….

    • http://www.facebook.com/megania Megan Ishler Anderson

      The vesty-jackety-top that Peggy wears to her Heinz meeting is called a jerkin. I realize that this comment contributes nothing but I was obsessed with following the original Bishop Method of Sewing Construction for a while, and fretted over whether I should be such a purist that I would actually make a jerkin (see my abandoned blog <a href=http://messymethodsewing.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/chapter-7-two-blouses-and-a-jerkin-almost-done/poor unloved blog)

      I made the right decision by skipping the jerkin.

    • Glammie

      Thanks for the link.  JB clearly thought about it–and I get her idea that Michael does his shopping at the Salvation Army and doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing.  Nonetheless, I think she slipped up a bit here.  If Michael knows enough to wear a tie, he’d know enough not to wear jeans into an office.  Cords would have been a better bet.  

      It occurs to me that I never saw my father, despite his having been a serious outdoors type in his youth, in a pair of jeans.  He didn’t own a pair.  But anyone who’s a baby boomer or younger it’s a wardrobe staple.  What jeans you wore was a big deal when I was a teen.  

      Jeans were a big Generation Gap issue and JB missed a nuance on this one.

    • Amanda DeBock

      Did anyone else notice while they were fighting in HoJo’s, the cadence of Meghan’s voice turned decidedly Sally like? There was another scene when I noticed it as well. They’re very much highlighting the child/father dynamic of Don and Meghan’s relationship.

    • rosiepowell2000

      I think the difference is, Betty chose to be child-like, enjoyed being doted upon and used it as a tool to manipulate people.

      Which episodes are you referring to?

    • Matthew Cibellis

      I kinda expected your blog to cover the (mostly) jockey shorts-wearing men in the lives of these folks that stand out:

      Peggy’s boyfriend’s briefs seem vaguely not really of the time
      Harry Crane’s from an early season when he is spending the night sleeping in the office is much more in line with the times.
      I think Sterling’s boxers are picture perfect for the times
      Don’s white boxers are fairly convincing.

      But for you guys…well, I expected more on the men in their underpants

      • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

        Why did you expect that?

    • juliamargaret

      That’s so interesting: I really just thought Roger was joking about it being T. Leary.

    • juliamargaret

      Thanks for that link: I appreciate knowing Janie Bryant’s reasoning on the jeans.

    • Derek_anny

       Jerkin.  A pun, perhaps?  She wears it to the theatre.

    • katenonymous

      “This whole blowup started over a cruel remark about his mother”

      Did it? I had the impression that, for Megan, it started when he expected her to have the same attitude about her professional life that he has about his.

    • rachel schiff

      Their table at Howard Johnson reminds me of the table they sat at in California when Don’s kids spilled something and Megan behaved like a really nice mother.  

    • rachel schiff

      And when Megan angrily stuffs the orange sherbet into her mouth, that reminded me of when Bettie force fed Sally at Henry’s mother’s house. 

      A lot of mother themes, right?

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    • Linlighthouse

      I really want Peggy to get over the whole manly look. She looked perfect in that navy dress with the stripe down the front, but ever since, it’s been short-sleeve white men’s shirts, maybe with something vest-like over them, and some sort of tie. I do understand that this fits into the story because she’s trying out mannishness as a career move. I just can’t wait for her to realize it’s not working and go back to the more professional, and flattering, dresses.