Pop Style Opinionfest: Queens Ramble

Posted on April 08, 2016

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Darlings, this week, we offered up another round of Tom & Lorenzo Shoot The Shit About Whatever Pops Into Their Heads, on such weighty topics as the upcoming spring TV season and the return of Outlander, Orphan Black (with a spoiler-free mini-review of the first episode of the new season) and Game of Thrones. Also, why are celebrity fashion mag editorials so awful lately? And what documentaries have you been watching recently, Lorenzo?

And of course, RuPaul’s Drag Race; specifically, the Snatch Game episode (visual aids to follow).

 

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Y’know, the usual shits and giggles. Heavy on the giggles. Thank all y’all now and forevermore for paying any attention at all to these two loudmouths. Luvyameanit.

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  • FluffyHeretic

    They’re just going to keep dangling that win over Thorgy’s dreadlocked head, aren’t they?

    Hopefully she doesn’t have a Shannel-style meltdown later this season.

  • Hellene

    The lack of Madonna looks really disappointed us, too. We were shouting at the TV!

  • librarygrrl64

    Nancy Grace! *DEAD* 😀

    • FluffyHeretic

      …have you watched the episode?

  • Joanna B

    I look forward to the Snatch Game episode each season, and this one was a total letdown. Not very funny at all. Even more of a letdown was the Madonna runway. You have a chance to be Madonna…Madonna!….and all you can do is pull out a sad kimono? Insane.

    • Nancy Arseneault-Heald

      I wanted at least one Material Girl and a Like-A-Virgin… but Nooo, all we get is kimonos.

      • BaltimoreAubrey

        I think everyone’s mindset was that they wanted to do something unexpected, and they all coincidentally landed on the same thing. Chi Chi was the only one who really did a cliched Madonna look.

    • CelandineM

      When I think of a Madonna look, a red kimono is NOT the first image that comes to mind!

    • PinkyAndNoBrain

      So I’m really late because I’m bingeing on TLo…but am I the only one who really never thinks SG is all that funny? Even the great ones like S7 always just strike me as cute, but mostly kinda awkward.

      Totally agree with you on the runway though.

  • stardust462

    I wonder if Chi Chi also had a kimono, which is way she put together that look quickly. Probably not, but that runway was so disappointing.

    • FluffyHeretic

      She did in fact have a kimono, but saw everyone else’s and put her final look together in six hours.

      • FuhUgh

        I was wondering why none of them made the quick adjustment from Kimono to “papa don’t preach”? That’s an easy one to pull off – striped tee, jeans, dark brows and tousled short hair. Derrick could have KILLED that look.

        • Eric Stott

          Maybe, but Derrick paid for that kimono & couldn’t think of anything but wearing it – and besides, with “Papa Don’t Preach” he’d have to act a bit – with the kimono he just walked around like a billboard

        • julnyes

          Supposedly, Thorgy said she was going to change from her kimono look, but the producers told her to keep it.

      • soverybored

        If you watch this weeks untuck she talks about how she put her look together. I thought she went with that look because she did not have enough money to pack a Madonna look.

  • MilaXX

    I though Naomi Smalls was doing Squeak from The Color Purple. (Rae Dawn Chong’s character) but I guess the plaits were more young Celie. Nevertheless I found the brief bit in the workroom actually funny. Much funnier than her dimmed down New York.
    Derrick is boring! None of her runways are even remotely interesting. Victoria Secret underwear is crap. You couldn’t pay me to wear it. Robbie is another one who’s boring. I don’t think I would mind the sameness of the looks, but he’s just not funny.

    • PeaceBang

      How do you NOT GET Diana Vreeland’s hairdo? Queen fail. Robbie is a snooze, and such the ego on that one!

    • Eric Stott

      Derrick is not even interestingly bitchy. Robbie is more interesting out of drag.

  • Freynika

    RuPaul’s suit looks like wrapping paper from Target. (sorry, I’ve been holding that one in for awhile)
    I still think the wrong queen got sent home. I’m trying to do the mental gymnastics to see how RuPaul arrived at that answer, and I just can’t.

    • snevhead

      Really? I was just going to post that suit is giving me life!! Then again, I love wrapping paper. So that probably says more about me than about the fashion.

    • tessa

      Because you thought she did better in the lip synch or someone else should have been in the bottom two?

      • PinkyAndNoBrain

        I would’ve put Robbie in the bottom instead. Acid sucked, don’t get me wrong, but her runway was impeccable and her track record was much better than Robbie’s, and I saw their SGs as on par. I just never can tell when Ru takes past performance into account and when she doesn’t.

        • tessa

          Well the judges liked her snatch game, so they’re not going to put derrek in the bottom two for a performance they liked because their previous performances haven’t been good. Same situation with the smear campaigns

          • PinkyAndNoBrain

            Oh, I know. That’s why I put Robbie in the bottom. But Derrick should’ve been in the bottom for previous episodes (like New Wave? Or RuCo?). Besides, Ru suddenly decided to judge in teams for the smear to save Kim, despite none of the queens in Untucked thinking that was going to happen.

    • If you want to cos-play as RuPaul in that suit you can make your own! The fabric is produced as a quilting cotton by Robert Kaufman (designed by Ann Kelle) and think I’ve got some in my fabric stash (I’m a quilter).

  • Ed Hawkins

    KimChi’s kimono look was NOT from the “Nothing Really Matters” video. It was actually a very accurate tribute to the “Paradise (Not For Me)” short film from the Drowned World Tour. There’s a difference.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64FqRlvPbAg

    • We sit corrected!

    • Man Dala

      I thought he was closest one to Madonna’s look, I loved it.

  • Ramon Figueroa

    So much to say! It seems that Betty just didn’t try with his Nancy Grace. But Robbie was appalling. When Ru fed him that line about what was in this season, and he answered “How the fuck should I know?” I wanted to summon the ghost of Diana Vreeland and have her vanish him from this Earth.

    • Lucía Gavello

      That line was UNFORGIVABLE.

  • GeoDiva

    Was really hoping for a discussion/review of The People vs OJ Simpson.

  • Ben de la Creme and Jinx need to take Robbie Turner aside and tell her she’s adopted.

  • SFbaby09

    I have never been more disappointed in a drag race catwalk in 8 seasons. I was so excited when Ru announce the theme for the catwalk and we get FOUR freaking kimonos. The Snatch Game was okay. Bob and Thorgy brought it per usual. I wasn’t mad at Derek for doing Brittany; it was just BORING. I’m guessing out of respect for her job she didn’t want to push the boundaries to far. Was not sorry to see Acid Betty go. Kim Chi will always serve a fabulous face; Naomi body. I’m rooting for Chi Chi to make it to the top three.

  • Kimberlini

    Cosmo, Glamour and Allure have NEVER been about fashion editorials with actors or models so why criticize them for disappointing in that regard?

  • Eric Stott

    Acid Betty had one great shady move in the lip sync- she kicked Naomi’s kimono off of the runway

    • PinkyAndNoBrain

      That gave me LIFE! Though considering she has a tendency to clean up the runway (like picking up the broken glass in episode 2), that move may have been pure Acid: two parts shady, one part sweet, and fierce as fuck.

      • Eric Stott

        and it meant that Naomi was down one prop for the rest of the sync

  • PeaceBang

    I don’t get all the praise from the judges for Thorgy. She wasn’t in the least bit hilarious, nor did she get anywhere near MJ’s voice. Why are we still made to endure Derrick?

  • hillmeredith

    That was the saddest Madonna round up ever. I was expecting so much better and to at least redeem the girls after such a lackluster Snatch Game. Howevuh, this was my first week listening to the podcast and I just love it, consider me subscribed. I especially love the sponsor announcement they’re so old-timey radio in the best way. Thanks TLO!!

  • tessa

    I actually liked kim chi’s impersonation. I didn’t really mind that it was a made up character, and her ass of destruction was funny. I thought it was right she was safe- she wasn’t the best but she wasn’t nearly the worst.

    I’m assuming the queens all chose kimonos because they thought it would be different for a madonna look. Also, apparently thorgy was thinking of changing her look and the producers talked her out of it

    • bumblebee

      The interesting thing is that the Korean on her name card just says Kim Jong-eun, so I took it as her playing him and maybe using the “Kimmy” thing to cover her and the show’s butt. idk. I mean, considering they only showed one joke from her the entire time, it seems like it was a real concern (unless she was just awful and the producers didn’t want us to see lol).

  • Carly Clement

    Kim Chi’s was based on Kim Jung Un which made it so good – he modified the Korean dictator into a bitchy woman! I thought it was so clever to play up to that and to reference- and I loved how she joked about being killed by the North Korean dictator – SO SO Funny!!! I didnt mind Acid Betty – i liked her far better in her early episodes (especially in bitch perfect). I am also growing sick of bob the drag queen (he is being too cocky). I am hoping for Thorgy to take out this season – I think she is talented, smart, funny and nice!

    O and Milk was part of a Mark Jacobs show- and Pearl is a fashion model now so go Naomi!!

    O and I am using weeble for my teachering website and I can say that it is AMAZING and really really effective and easy to use!!!

  • Kaonashi

    I loved Acid Betty’s Madonna look. It was both beautiful and unique, and the face was actually pretty. Unfortunately, she was at a disadvantage when it came to the lip synch.

    Kim Chi’s take on the North Korea dictator was genius, but I don’t think a lot of people got the reference.

  • Honestly, if male impersonations weren’t gonna be off the table, I thought Acid Betty should have done Santino Rice because there’s a resemblance there both personality-wise and feature-wise, and Santino’s already funny. Gonna miss the runway looks though – I liked Acid Betty’s cirque de soleil-esque vibe.

    Agree with Kimchi getting a pass, though I still love her runway looks.

    As soon as y’all mentioned people who come out with the same face every week, I knew y’all were talking about Robbie Turner. I was hoping for a Madonna take on the face because it’s not like Madonna’s character didn’t wear makeup in A League of Their Own. That’s not a hard drag face. It’s literally a hopscotch away from Marilyn’s face, so.

    I loved Bob’s Boy Scout Madonna (important to note because the Boy Scouts, unlike the Girl Scouts, have the really bad history with the LGBTQ community).

    I sort of assume all the queens thought that kimono Madonna was going to be a unique pick and it was a weird coincidence. The worst thing was that no one course-corrected and pulled something else together – surely someone could have grabbed some tulle and chains, bedazzled a shirt and made anything else from Madonna’s early looks.

  • Pearse

    I think the issue with the kimono look might be the frame of reference of these queens. Most of them who did the look (or brought the look, like chi chi) are my age (early 30s), and I was OBSESSED with that video when it came out. I knew of Madonna before then, but that video was my gateway into Madonna as an Icon. (Though watching that video now, it really just looks like an early Dir en grey video…) It’s an easy reference with a lot of flow, and they couldn’t be sure how much time they’d have to get ready. Sometimes it feels like they have to run from a stage performance to the runway.

    • julnyes

      Though watching that video now, it really just looks like an early Dir en grey video
      Bwa haa haa

  • JynxTheCat

    I was HOPING Betty would do Ann Coulter. That’s a good call right there, No?

  • JynxTheCat

    Does anyone think the low-balling in fashion editorials are a reflection of the loss of readership?

  • Is there a link to the survey? I can’t find it on play.it

    Never mind! Found it! playitsurvey.com

    They should have mentioned from the outset that it’s only intended for US residents.

  • JynxTheCat

    Sorry but Derek always looks Boy Boy Boy to me.

  • JynxTheCat

    Betty should have had a birth prop ready and/or a way to yank that belly off.

  • Joan Of Snark

    I have a feeling that next week Derrick’s out. They kept him along until Snatch Game where he can do his full Britney impersonation, it’ll all be downhill from there. I can’t see how he can compete with the others, he has no personality and his looks are either too Britney or way too forced to be the opposite.

  • julnyes

    My top three haven’t changed this week – Bob TDQ, Thorgy and Chi Chi. I feel Robbie and Derrick should have gone home before Acid Betty even if her Nancy Grace was terrible. I just don’t want to watch them for another week.

    • PinkyAndNoBrain

      Agreed. Also we were robbed a fabulous Oz look from Betty. (Commenting so late, but I’m just catching up!)

  • Coming in belatedly to say that yes, TLo, I will always prefer the bitchy queen banter to a polished podcast where you have all your notes organized ahead of time. 🙂