Pop Style Opinionfest: Of Wonder Women and Neon Queens

Posted on March 29, 2016

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Guess which movie T Lo saw this week? The same one apparently everyone else did! Darlings, you knew we were going to have opinions about the exciting new motion picture The Fabulously Fashionable Wonder Woman and Her Two Supremely Annoying Guy Friends (aka Batman v Superman), didn’t you? Of course you did.

We have much to say about this flick, which has the distinction of being one of those movies the critics hated and the public seems unwilling to admit they enjoyed, but it wound up making a shit-ton of money anyway. However, ticket sales aren’t an indicator of quality, alas, and this flick had more than its share of problems, which Tom (who is recovering nicely from his dental surgery of last week, but will force you all to listen to his poorly formed “s” sounds because of the retainer he’s forced to wear for the moment) lovingly points out for you all. Lorenzo actually liked it much more than Tom did.

Anyway, the upshot is, if there’s any reason at all to see this film, it’s for the ten minutes of Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman. She’s by far, the best thing in the entire overblown 2-and-a-half hours of bro angst. Even though BvS was pretty bad in a lot of ways, we’re really looking forward to the big screen adaptation of Wonder Woman scheduled for next year.

Incidentally, we geeked out momentarily over this promo shot, which depicts some of the Amazons in the currently shooting flick:

 

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Yes, that’s House of Cards’ Robin Wright butching it up badass style on the right. To die, darlings.

And of course, we spend puh-lenty of time talking about those bitches on RuPaul’s Drag Race; specifically how they did in the New Wave challenge and subsequent neon-themed runway. Visual aids below:

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It’s yet another smorgasbord of bitchery and judgment coming from your two favorite bitches. Airkisses to you all once again for all your support, darlings. You can download/subscribe to the podcast here.

 

[Photo Credit: Warner Bros., Entertainment Weekly – Stills: Tom and Lorenzo – Video Credit: CBS Radio/Play it]

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  • 10 minutes? Truly? That’s all the screen time she gets? Yeah, I’ll pass on that at full theater prices. Bring on the Wonder Woman movie.

    The recap pics of RPDR are fucking amazing!!

    • FrigidDiva

      I had briefly thought about going to see BvS with my hubby, but honestly I don’t think I can give a reasonable argument for spending the money on it. I usually like seeing action movies on the big screen, but this one? It just doesn’t have the same appeal as a Marvel movie (and not just because it’s lacking a Chris).

      • I hate Jesse Eisenberg with a passion. Reviews would have to be outstanding to get me there.

        • karinlee

          If you already dislike him, two and a half hours of watching him do some kind of weird low-rent Joker / Silicon Valley bro with terrible social skills will not improve matters.

          • Shawn EH

            Oh, he’s playing Zuckerberg again?

          • karinlee

            Zuckerberg on hallucinogens and/or coke, more or less, yeah.

          • I’m embarrassed to say that I kind of love him, so I should probably avoid this movie and pretend his Lex Luthor never happened.

          • Tatiana Luján

            Same here

        • MilaXX

          Oh me too! He bugs beyond words.

        • Chris

          It was literally painful watching him. Every time he was onscreen it was like torture with all his cheesy tics and quirks. All I could think about was how Bryan Cranston was considered for the role and kept asking myself why they didn’t cast him or anyone else as Lex Luthor.

        • FrigidDiva

          From the reviews I’ve read they’ve been very harsh about his performance and claim he’s ruined the entire movie. I don’t know if that’s a fair assessment, but he definitely wouldn’t have been my first choice for Lex Luthor. I’ve never pictured Lex as Woody Allen, and honestly that’s all I see and hear when I see Jesse Eisenberg in a movie.

      • MilaXX

        I’m gonna catch an matinee because I want to see it in the theater. I probably won’t splurge on a pricey imax tix though

      • Chris

        DC just seems completely unable to get me emotionally invested in their characters and movies. Batman was the only one in this movie I felt anything for and even that was pretty weak. (Apart from excitement over Wonder Woman). Chris Evans can make me cry with one line as Captain America. I got a hundred times more emotional watching the trailer for CA Civil War than I did watching this entire movie.

        • FrigidDiva

          Spot on. Zac Snyder also seems obsessed with destruction porn in his movies, one massive fight scene after another.

      • I also threw the idea of going to see the flick with Mr. Danielle last week, until I saw that Wonder Woman was literally only in the last fight sequence. Nope. Saving my IMAX ticket money for CA:Civil War.

    • She was AWESOME, well worth the price of the ticket. On a far more unpopular note, I loved Ben Affleck as Batman/Bruce Wayne. The film is not great but far better than its reviews.

      • Chris

        I agree 100% with both of these opinions. WW was my favorite part of the movie but Ben as Batman was second. I didn’t like the movie overall as much as you did (I find Superman and Henry Cavill to be a big snore) and they really didn’t need to show Bruce Wayne’s parents get shot AGAIN but I am very impressed with Affleck’s older, damaged Batman.

        • It was the “Martha” scene that I loved most. Ben showed The Crazy Within beautifully. Cavill has always been OK for me as Superman, nothing more.

    • Frank_821

      In reality it’s longer than 10 minutes, She’s got 10 minutes as Wonder Woman and 10 minutes as Diana Prince. In both identities she exhibits a strong character who has depth. Her screen time is relatvely small but important and a little more than Holly Hunter’s

  • Judy_S

    Glad to know Tom is recovering!

  • Latin Buddy

    OMG Christmas on a Tuesday! Was dreading having to wait until Fri to get your thoughts on the bullshit critique by Michelle. I’m sorry, when girls have Vera Wang and expensive shoes on the stage, differences in resources becomes glaringly apparent!

    • Marco Guzman

      *Possible Spolier*

      In Untucked they show the extended version of Michelle’s critique to Chichi, which was quite sweet and helpful. Miss Visage got the bitch edit on the main show. This season is GOOD!

  • Emily Smith

    OH MY GOD ROBIN WRIGHT IS IN THE WONDER WOMAN MOVIE?! I wasn’t interested but now I am!

  • Carrie

    I need to catch up, if only to see Kim Chi’s runway look. I love how she’s always pushing it!

    • You can probably get a better feel for it from these photos, unfortunately–the runway was so crazy rushed that we got *maybe* 10 seconds to appreciate each look. It was frustrating.

  • MilaXX

    So happy to hear you like Black*ish! I haven’t seen BatmanvsSuperman yet. Mostly because I’m not a fan of the 2 lead actors. I do plan to see it, but I’m a little disappointed that they whitewashed the Amazons. Still I haven’t heard anything bad about Gal Godot’s Wonder Woman so I will catch a matinee just for that. Fan reactions that I have heard range from, “Just okay” to “Liked it”. Only 2 people I personally know hated it. My issue with the last Superman movie wasn’t that it was dark. Dark I can do, but Man of Steel was boring! I’m not an Affleck fan, but I’ve hear reports that he’s a pretty good Batman.

    Robbie Turner looked like an extra from Beauty & The Beast. Her vintage stuff has no sense of humor to it. It’s all deadly serious and that makes it’s boring.

    • The director of the Wonder Woman film came out and said after that shot was released that the Amazons are a diverse tribe in the film. It’s just that these women are all related to Diana – her mother and her two aunts.

      • MilaXX

        Fair enough. I haven’t seen the film yet and of course the WW film isn’t out yet. I would have preferred diversity in the promotional pics but I can deal.

  • Gatita

    Why do female superheroes wear sky-high stilettos? FFS. More like super pain, super blisters, super broken tibia from falling.

    • Lilithcat

      No, you don’t get it. The ability to wear those shoes without pain, blisters and broken bones is their superpower.

      • One of my favorite characters (who is admittedly kind of a silly character) noted that her feet hurt when she walks around, not because of the heels, but because she’s not used to walking – in Meggan and Captain Britain’s home life, they usually fly around.

      • Joe J

        That reminds me of an old “Calvin and Hobbes” strip, where Hobbes peeks over Calvin’s shoulder at a comic book he’s reading and asks if the superheroine’s super power is her ability to squeeze her figure into her suit, to which Calvin replies “Nah, they can all do that.”

        Thankfully, the costume designers for the Wonder Woman movie clearly aren’t going that route at all, based on those photos – these are some badass-looking ladies.

    • Very few of them – almost none, actually – wear stilettos.

      • Gatita

        I’m glad but I wish they hadn’t put them on all the women in this photo.

        • Girl, I think I understand what you are trying to say but a stiletto is a slim heel that is at least 2 inches long. You cant even see the heels that two of the four women are wearing and the other two are in boots with thick heels, not stilettos.

          • Gatita

            You’re right. I was looking at it on my phone and I couldn’t see the thickness of the heel. But they are still too high for running and superheroing. And the point I’m making of course is that women superheroes are put in these completely impractical outfits that would make it impossible for them to actually, you know, fight crimes. And it’s kind of insulting. (Referring to movie superheroes, if it’s better in the actual books I wouldn’t know)

  • Almut Weidenprinzessin

    That group pic of the Wonder Women is so heavily photoshopped, they look seriously weird and wrong like sexy, creepy puppets.

  • Eric Stott

    Naysha Lopez annoys me, but I gotta say she pulled out all the stops on that runway, and that lip sync was CLOSE

  • Thom

    RPDR: I agree that Lucian was trying to throw them off, but I think Bob is playing even more to the cameras. It’s kinda fun to see him stir the pot being so tongue-in-cheek.

    About the judge’s critiques: the two that stuck out to me were Michelle’s critiques to Acid Betty and ChiChi. Acid Betty’s performance outfit was great for B-52’s realness, but the fabrics didn’t go with Thorgy’s jumpsuit or Bob’s dress. And Michelle saying that a drag queen doesn’t need money seems tone-deaf. To my understanding, ChiChi *was* utilizing the fabric wall to make that bathing suit, and having to make your own costumes on the fly with less than a day doesn’t seem feasible. Well, at least she can make herself a few new clothes, and maybe steal a bolt or two of fabric to take home.

    Derrick Barry’s singing really sunk the Dragometry performance, because it made the ChiChi’s and Naysha’s robot-singing sound tone-deaf and accidental. Lucian prolly commented on that in some cut-for-time footage, but the “not giving 100%” comment they included doesn’t make for a concise or understandable critique.

  • LorrainePromo

    Lorenzo take those comic book pictures out of the bedroom and give Tom a “mancave” or hang in a hidden hallway.

  • Alberto

    Guten Tag “Jamón”? One would think Lorenzo out of all people would know how to pronounce that word.

    • One would think wrongly since Spanish isn’t my first language. L

  • Steve Shon

    I loved that hyper-competitive lip sync. Naysha does a cartwheel – so Chi-Chi starts spinning, does a motherf*cking backflip down the catwalk. Naysha’s wig falls off – so Chi-Chi gets down on all fours to do some old-school Glee-style hair-ography. Lady just PACKED salt into that wound in the best way.

  • julnyes

    Okay, Robbie remains one of my least favorite queens, but I can’t complain about his win, He did a great job in the challenge. I didn’t get the critique of Acid’s performance look since it appeared pretty darn 80’s to me. The bottom two – I have no clue why Derrick wasn’t in the bottom two. I also am getting a bit annoyed with his little borderline racist moments. No having soul doesn’t mean twerking you clueless little britney.

    • FuhUgh

      I was glad to see Robbie win, but that runway look… He looked like a middle-aged Disney character. I just didn’t get it. I thought it was the worst look out on the runway and that it might bring down his awesome performance in the challenge. Thorgy brought it – AGAIN! But there was no love for Thorgy’s runway look, which I totally did not understand either. Kim Chi pulled off another unusual stunner, and ChiChi … I CAN’T EVEN! That lip-synch was EPIC.

      • julnyes

        I agree about Thorgy and Kim Chi’s runway looks and yes Chi Chi killed that lip snyc. I feel bad for Chi Chi because I don’t think she is going to win, but hopefully appearing on the show will significantly increase her bookings and fees.

        • Eric Stott

          Chi Chi stands a good chance of becoming an underdog favorite like Pandora Boxx

      • Eric Stott

        I agree with the critique on Thorgy’s look – It was a great concept but there was just too much. She needs to learn to edit.

  • Frank_821

    I am glad you you commented about the acting from the leads. I am also happy you credited Holly Hunter. Her role was small but she really gave a full performance. Same with Jeremy Irons and Lawrence Fishbourne and my old high school classmate Harry Lennix

    With you about the awkwardness of that dream sequence. It was unnecessary.

    I do blame Snyder for the bulk of the issues. There are sophisticated themes and ideas that are worth exploring. Ideas that are consistent with the those explored in Nolan’s Bat trilogy. Snyder really does not have the skills to infuse the nuances and subtleties needed for such heavy material

  • IRVN

    Britney boring Berry should go home soon! Am rooting for Thorgy now

    • Eric Stott

      Derrick Berry does seem to be a decent person, though a bit clueless. Boring is not good though- if a Queen is bad she’d better be Memorably Bad.

  • Bellatrix Lestrange

    I saw BvS yesterday and yes, Gal Gadot is certainly a breath of fresh air whenever she’s on screen. And that’s cause the film tries so hard to show the animosity between Bruce Wayne/Clark Kent all the time and fails. I mean come on. And Batfleck is so darn slow, if one thing Batman never was in the entirety of the comics, was slow. I can go on and on, but I guess everyone kinds knows the flaws of the movie

    • Shawn EH

      I think Snyder had two problems: equalling the darkness of Nolan’s Batman movies, and adding it to the cynicism of his own Watchmen film. Of those four movies, I liked three.

  • Shawn EH

    Thanks for the Enfield Haunting tip, TLo! The cast alone looks worthwhile, and any chance to see one of the recent Mr. Darcys!

  • Patricia Groves Dobrowski

    RPDR runway – why was Chi Chi’s look described as basic, but Derrick’s gets a pass? They were both essentially an embellished swimsuit.

    • Eric Stott

      Derrick and his look weren’t worth focusing on- it is obvious (and even brought up on Untucked) that RuPaul has taken Chi Chi under her wing. She was brought up not just for a lesson, but to be in the spotlight for it. I’m pretty certain that Naysha was going to sashay away even before the sync.

  • pherocious cake

    please do these podcasts on drugs more often,Tom
    – i’m dying laughing over here

  • YES, I did miss your podcast last week!

    It’s not just you guys being “old” — I’m a Millennial who avoids superhero/action movies now because Avengers gave me a really bad headache. Too much noise and too many light flashes. Give me quiet dramas any day.

    I’ll go see the Wonder Woman movie next year, though, because the last superheroine movie I saw was Elektra in 2005. There haven’t been any others since, right?

  • Kaonashi

    Even though I loved Les Chicken Wings, I found myself humming the Street Meatz song today, LOL. It’s pretty catchy and I loved Bob and Thorgy’s energy performing it.

    • PinkyAndNoBrain

      What’s that SMELL?! (I loved both, but would give the edge to Street Meatz because the lyrics were just so clever.)

  • I kind of wish Acid Betty could have worn Naysha’s jumpsuit with that makeup.

    • PinkyAndNoBrain

      I think that would’ve been too much, tbh. I liked that the dress was more simple and didn’t fight with that amazing makeup.

  • In re: superheroes and drag queens as a double-theme, I hope you guys have seen Kevin Wada’s art – I want to get his She-Hulk covers framed for my apartment. I’m super obsessed with his work – he does a lot of fashion illustration style superheroes. I feel like all my fellow nerdy fashiony bitter kittens would love.

  • fananafanafophalec

    let’s be real Naysha’s lipsync was a total mess too

  • lisaepc

    I think Dragometry’s song was about different body shapes? ChiChi had a good idea about wearing the shapes but Derrick kept saying he didn’t want to cover his body…sigh Derrick, gurl bye because you just negated what your song was all about.