Pop Style Opinionfest: Pop Culture Potpourri!

Posted on January 08, 2016

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Pat your weave and put on your crowns, queens, because we’ve got some serious chatting to do.

Yes, darlings, we’re back after our holiday break and brimming with 80 minutes of non-stop opinionating on all the things that have happened on the style and pop culture fronts since Christmas. First, we review “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” in a totally non-spoilery way, we swear. Then we review “Trumbo,” the new prestige drama biopic starring Bryan Cranston.

With movie reviewing out of the way, we move on to TV talk, specifically the surprisingly exciting trailer for Netflix’s upcoming series The Crown, in which Claire Foy and Matt Smith make an astonishingly on-point Elizabeth and Phillip:

We found ourselves somewhat shocked by how excited we are for this series. If nothing else, it will be a costuming and art direction feast:

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You can expect future posts on the show once it’s available, we’re sure.

After that, we move on to fashion and first, give our totally pulled-out-of-thin-air predictions for what the red carpet trends will be for the Golden Globes and the rest of awards season and then offer some of our thoughts on Dolce & Gabbana’s hijab and abaya collection and the reactions of the public toward it. Oh, and we also go off on a tangent about Colton Haynes’ somewhat circumspect coming out this week and how it demonstrates a shift in thinking on how and when celebs should come out.

As you can see, we’ve got a lot of ground to cover, darlings. Best grab yourself a cup of coffee and a danish before we get started.

Pardon us for being repetitive, but thank you once again for your support and you can download/subscribe to the podcast here.

Opinionating: COMMENCE.

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  • AlisonHendryx

    Oh, Betty and her head scarf!! ADORBS.

  • MilaXX

    Interesting comments on Colton coming out. I have to admit I was one of the ones thinking his coming out was a non-issue but then I think about every time I read an article that says that studio head till don’t believe a cast of mostly non white actors will sell a movie or a movie with a female as the lead won’t sell and I realize Hollywood is not as progressive as one would like to think and just how courageous a move like that can be for a person’s career.

    • Wink

      The leaked emails from Sony revealed a lot about how the studio heads think.

    • SunDevilWitch

      I loved the comments they made on how important coming out can be for someone’s journey. I too have said “who cares?” to the idea of someone needing to come out, but really took a different point of view when Tom said it minimizes that person’s journey. I never thought about it that way. Lesson learned here.

      • MilaXX

        Exactly. I had to stop and check myself on that.

      • Violina23

        Same here — I don’t think I’ve ever said “Who cares?” but I have definitely shrugged it off as not being newsworthy. Because, to me (and presumably most straight people reading this site and listening to the podcast), the knowledge that a celebrity or public figure is gay doesn’t in ANY way change my opinion on that person. Thus, it’s not a big deal to me. But I didn’t think of it from the perspective of young gay kids, teens, and professionals who may find comfort and strength from seeing someone they admire navigate the minefield of coming out. I appreciate the perspective, TLo.

        Plus, for every person who has the good intentions, there is a homophobe who says “WHO CARES?” because they wish the person would have stayed in the closet and not burdened the world with being open about a lifestyle that they disapprove of. Unless you know the person, it must be hard to know if it’s sincere or not.

        • SunDevilWitch

          Exactly.

  • Anne Silberman

    I’ll take Mew Mew! She sounds adorable.

    • MilaXX

      When she got really loud, Jonsie answered her back. It was funny until she tried to climb on the keyboard.

      • Urchin didn’t answer back but she did try and figure out where the other cat was.

        • Violina23

          I was in the car, and I had a moment where I was wondering if my cat snuck into my minivan… 😉

  • Andrew Schroeder

    The Crown has, I believe, the highest budget of any television production ever. I have high expectations that I suspect will be exceeded.

  • oneWEIRDword

    I look forward to this!

  • delw

    Love the podcast! So rich…I get my fill of movies, fashion, Oscars and everything in-between in one podcast.
    Bryan Cranston does a great job of channeling the real Trumbo (Trumbo’s interviews can be seen on youtube).

    Film writer Karina Longworth has a great podcast called “You Must Remember This” about Hollywood. She did a great Star Wars series about John Wayne’s refusal to enlist during the war, Lena Horne’s struggle and stories about many other classic stars. Hedda Hopper’s name pops here and there too. She also told Charles Manson’s Hollywood story through a multi-episode arc.

    • Walburga

      I LOVE “You Must Remember This!” Karina Longworth is totally brilliant. The John Wayne episode certainly won’t make anyone like John Wayne more…

  • CommentsByKatie

    I loved hearing your take on Star Wars. I felt a lot of the same things but have been unable to clarify and articulate them as well as Tom did.

    No spoilers in this paragraph: Many of my friends have disliked the film because they are nitpicking small dumb things, like Rey being ‘overpowered’, the rehash aspect, dragging BB8 around in public, etc. Sure, the film makes a lot of mistakes (for me the pacing of the middle section is the largest mistake) but what it does right MORE than makes up for it. Namely, it felt like Star Wars! I never thought the new movie would give me those old feelings. Thrilling, beautiful, hopeful, mystic, mysterious. Thank you for the excellent defense of the film; I will definitely use those rebuttals when my friends complain.

  • In_Stitches

    T and Lo were on fire this week. Love the hammy, shameless sponsor promos, almost as much as the very well thought-out insight into Star Wars, Fashion and Coming Out. That was quite the buffet to start the weekend.

  • Alana

    Lovely podcast. Thank you for keeping me company while I cleaned out one of my kitchen cupboards. Trumbo has been and gone from our town, all ready, unfortunately. Just saw Star Wars last night–loved your review. Thanks for pointing out the differences–I was one of those mildly annoyed by the “similiarities” to the original…which I haven’t seen, of course, since I was fourteen.

    I hadn’t heard about the Crown. Now I have my fingers crossed Netflix Canada will carry it, too.

    Thank you again. I love hearing the two of you talk together, over and under each other as you do. I also appreciate your graciousness to one another.

    • SunDevilWitch

      YES, The Crown. Can’t wait. The pics here made it that much more intriguing to me. It’ll be a good rebound after Downton ends, too.

    • M. K.

      It should be available in Canada. Netflix has just started its global expansion and it’s supposedly moving away from selling the rights to any of its content to any thrid parties in the countries where it is present, so that should mean that all its original series should be (theoretically) instantly available everywhere.

      Btw, can somebody help a non native speaker? Is a “sizzle” some kind of new world for “trailer”? Because I only associate this world with cooking and there’s at least one more trailer from Netflix with this mysterious “sizzle” in the name? (Speaking of which, this second “sizzling” trailer is for Baz Luhrmann’s musical drama series set in Bronx in the 70s, it also looks quite interesting).

      • Alana

        Thanks! Fingers crossed. I wasn’t aware netflix actually sold the distribution rights of some of their shows to others here…(though I guess they do) it is more the fact that the offerings of US netflix are different than those here in Canada…because, I’d assumed, the original producers (o r whomever it is who does these things) decided to let Netflix distribute their show in the US but NOT in Canada (and say, gave it to Roger’s or whatever.)

        Isn’t this a BBC production?

        I can google this and find out, I guess, now can’t I?

        • M. K.

          There were some problems before with Netflix selling the rights to their original stuff first and then coming in to the market later as a competition for itself, basically, as far as the given show is concerned, but that was mostly European problem (Canal + had the rights for The House of Cards in many countries, for example). But, yeas, The Crown is their original production so it should be available everywhere – and it sure does look very BBC-like, right? 🙂 It’s all these familiar faces, I guess.

  • shoofly

    Love this podcast! Do any ladies on here use Harry’s razors? TLo make me want to try them! (ETA: I guess I should simpy ask if anyone uses them to shave legs.)

    • tonibaloney

      They are AMAZING! I asked for the Truman starter set for Christmas, due mostly to TLo, and everything that they praise is so true! Great weight and feel to the handle, the shave gel smells great and lathers up so well, such a smooth shave and my legs were moisturized and feeling lovely. STRONGLY recommend for ladies!

      • shoofly

        Thank you! I think I have to give it a go.

  • M. K.

    I really liked you Star Wars discussion. I’ve listened to so many people (critics included) complaining about the similarities between TFA and New Hope that it was nice to listen to somebody who also paid attention to the deliberate differences and riffs on the familair plot points and scenes.

    The Crown looks really interesting, but will probably require some mental exercise in separating my image of the royal family from the fictional version of the pair. Still, the sets and costumes look very pretty and if it’s done well, I will most likely be captivated. And it does help to know that it isn’t going to be focused solely on Elisabeth an Philiph.

    /Side note: a small correction – Stephen Daldry did not direct The Queen (it was Frears), but the showrunner (Peter Morgan) was also the screenwriter for The Queen, so there is a close connection between the two :)/

  • Lauren

    I had to pause after the Star Wars review—which put a massive smile on my face: I said, out loud, “Yay, Tom!”—and share that my (straight) 15-year-old son and his friends are all shipping Poe and Finn! The portmanteau is “Pinn” and they, my son and his friends, are dying for Pinn to happen. Poe’s sexual orientation was plain as day to them, as was his chemistry with Finn, and they think Pinn are “so cute together.” From the mouths of teenagers in 2016!

    • SunDevilWitch

      How funny! I totally missed any indication of Poe’s orientation but that’s probably because I was busy finally realizing exactly why everyone found him so attractive. Yum-y. I don’t care who he gets together with but really hope he’s in the next one with a bigger role and yes, some serious face-kissing 🙂

    • Violina23

      It never crossed my mind that Poe was gay, but if he is, it works for me. I’m being deliberately careful in my wording due to spoilers, but originally his role was planned to be smaller in the original script, so I’m not sure they ever had a huge arc planned for him.

      • Lauren

        It wouldn’t have crossed my mind either, but it crossed the minds of my son and his friends. And they thought Poe and Finn were the obvious romantic pairing, not Daisy and Finn. Which is to say—and maybe this is less interesting than I think it is—that, for this group of 9th- and 10th-grade Star Wars fans, the sexual orientation of the potential romance is irrelevant. I mentioned it here because T and Lo talked about Poe being gay in the podcast.

    • cwade1211

      It briefly crossed my mind that Poe might be gay when I was watching, partly because of the ‘you’re wearing my jacket’ comment from Poe to Finn. Then I thought I was being stereotypical and judge-y.

  • I totally agree about the Star Wars 3D thing, but that’s also because it’s “fake 3d” (post-production, not filmed in 3d with two cameras). I haven’t seen any real 3d films lately, but I wonder if they have less of a “pop-up book” problem (totally agree on that note) than Star Wars did. I think the space scenes were decent in 3D, but I wonder if that’s because they benefit from the 3d basically being done from scratch (since they’re purely digital anyway, basically) rather than post in-production. I will be posting a link in my reply to this of a website that notes which films are filmed in “real 3d” (which includes a lot of 3d animated films which I imagine are easy to make in real 3d compared to live action) and which are post-production “fake 3d.” I’ll probably be checking this site the next time I’m considering seeing a movie in 3D because I hate hate hate that pop-up effect (plus I have a tendency to tilt my head which also ruins the effect).

    • The website in quesiton: http://realorfake3d.com/

    • SunDevilWitch

      I was super grateful for that commentary because I was considering seeing it a 3rd time and trying 3D. Now I’ll skip it and buy some popcorn with my extra $3.

    • Violina23

      I’ve never seen a movie in 3D, partially because I’m cheap, and partially because I find that if a movie is good enough, I’ll feel transported without things physically popping off the screen at me 🙂

  • I don’t love 3D. And where I sat (also IMAX) slightly to the left of the screen, everyone’s heads looked caved in on the right.

    • M. K.

      I hate 3D, it rarely really adds anything to a film and I wear glasses, so it forces me to wear glasses over my own glasses which is mighty uncomfortable.

      Oh, I haven’t noticed the statue – nice catch – I probably need to see the film again.

      • Every time I remember to wear contact lenses to a 3D movie I am ridiculously proud of myself!

  • ConnieBV

    I’m prefacing my comment by saying I am not Muslim, so I don’t want to speak to that culture specifically, but the comment that “an article of clothing is value-neutral” stuck with me. Were you referring to this case specifically, or as a rule?

  • Erica

    I can’t believe I missed the hijab and abaya collection from a few days ago. It so reminds me of this fabulous Iranian woman I met a number of years ago when a friend and I took a tour of part of Spain! The vast majority of the folks on the tour were from Spanish-speaking countries, and my friend is fluent in Spanish as well, whereas my Spanish is merely serviceable. The tour guides spoke in both Spanish and English of course but, when I got tired of thinking too hard, I would spend a fair amount of time speaking with an Iranian couple on the tour because he spoke fluent English and would translate for her. They clearly had a decent amount of money (he was an engineer), and I LOVED her outfits. She had the most stylish hijabs and abayas coupled with snazzy pants and awesome high-heeled sandals. Plus, she was gorgeous. I never felt comfortable engaging her about her style, but I looked forward to seeing what she would wear every day.

    I live in a big city and so naturally see a decent number of Muslim women, including some moms at my kid’s school, but that one experience opened my eyes to hijabs and abayas as fashion with a capital F. D & G’s collection is really cool.

  • MichelleRafter

    I saw the first picture and thought why is Anne Boleyn wearing a 50s cardigan and pearls?

  • cwade1211

    Great poscast, AS ALWAYS, T and Lo. Thank you for letting me know not to say ‘I don’t care’ about acquaintance’s or celebrities’ sexual orientation when they come out. As a straight female, I always meant ‘I don’t care’ to mean 1) their sexual orientation is none of my business, and 2) I really don’t like gossip of that kind, true or false, but now I know that that sounds belittling and insensitive. Thank you!

  • SwanQueen

    OK, so this is a weird comment but here goes….Regarding nipples: T+LO, I only have my own experience to share here, but after nursing my baby (who is now in high school) my nipples never ever went back to being “soft”. I guess my tissues hardened somewhat and they never forgot their new job, they just didn’t realize it was a temp job LOL! I don’t know if this might be impacted by reconstruction surgery (hmmm I know surgeons do a lot to try to conserve the original tissue) but it’s something to think about in the director’s and actress’s choice in keeping those shots…. her nipples may not relax anymore!

  • OH, about women filling out the background in Star Wars — one of my favorite bits of trivia I learned last year was that when they made Return of the Jedi, they actually had some female fighter pilots in the X-fighters! Including an older woman! And then they all got cut for the final version. :/// But you can actually find pictures of them with Google.

  • Walburga

    Finally got a chance to listen to this – great podcast, once again! By the way – I agree totally about what a great presence John Boyega has – and how lovely to look at! If you haven’t seen his movie Attack the Block it is great fun and a clever sci-fi movie. He is fantastic in it as well – definitely worth checking out too. Thanks for the wonderful posts and podcast! You guys are the best!