Project Runway Open Thread

Posted on July 31, 2014

UNCONVENTIONAL MATERIALS CHALLENGE TONIGHT, BITCHEZ!

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Make your predictions now, darlings. Who’s got the target on their back this week? Or is it too early to tell? We don’t particularly care. We just want to see some crack fashion tonight.

 

We will have our thought in the morning, of course. Until then, talk amongst yourselves.

 

 

 

 

[Photo Credit: Barbara Nitke for Lifetime - Video: Lifetime]

    • OffToSeeHim

      I can’t bring myself to watch. The trust is gone. But I’ll be back tomorrow to read the bitchy T-Lo commentary, just like I have been for the past seven years! :)
      (Seven years? Eight? Since the Laura season.)

      • smayer

        Geez, it’s been that long? Laura is the reason I got absorbed. I watched the Season 2 marathon right before that season’s finale and had decided to watch Season 3. Then along comes an architect on the show! I was in architecture school at the time and was excited to see her translate her design skills and methodology to fashion.

    • Call me Bee

      Hello, Dear Uncles. No lounge? Where will I get my vodka?? Oh yeah. In the freezer. Good thing–I had a shitty week.
      I have no opinion on who will go tonight. I can’t keep the contestants straight quite yet. But I hope Herr Grau hangs around for a while; his contribution last week was pleasantly surprizing. Also the tough chick from Detroit. I like her. And the quiet one from Australia (I think.) They all did well last week. Better than the winner, to my eyes.

      • Munchkn

        I like that chick from Detroit, too. I’m watching her audition on Road to the Runway as I type.

      • Call me Bee

        The guy from NZ–that’s who I was thinking of.

      • MilaXX

        I made boozy popsicles again. This time I used bing cherries, pineapple chunks and a merlot. I wish I had added a bit of lime or lemon, it’s good but could use a bit of a citrus pop.

        • Call me Bee

          Do they freeze? Vodka does not. It gets kinda syrupy and smoooooth.

          • MilaXX

            yes but it takes a long time. I’ve only done it with wine. It’s just wine and simple syrup with some fruit thrown in.

            • Call me Bee

              Mmmm sounds yummy! I’ll try it!

            • Barbara Affolter

              I made some with peach purée, peach nectar, rum, line juice, and crystallized ginger. You can use liquor, but you have to keep the mixture under 20% alcohol.

            • MilaXX

              That sounds delish! Totally stealing that recipe!

        • whaddami

          wow — that sounds ridiculously good. Would anyone object to a recipe posting?

        • Alyssa

          I totally will be making some of those! They sound delicious!

      • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ Alicia

        Lounge is for Fridays! I’m sure it’ll be there!

    • Munchkn

      I just watched an episode of Wife Swap with a polyamorous family swapping with some deeply Tea Party people from San Diego. I spent much of the past hour screaming at the TV. That Tea Party mom was worse than Marguerite Perrin, the “God Warrior”.

      • In_Stitches

        Gargoyles?!!!! Psychics!!!? She is not a Christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I normally don’t like reality tv, but she was gold.

        • Munchkn

          Marguerite Perrin was a least fun to laugh at. This woman and her husband were just terribly judgmental and offensive.

          • UsedtobeEP

            I have only seen that show once, by accident, but I think it was that episode. Did she have really short hair and totally lose it at the end?
            ETA: Nevermind. I just Googled her. It was Mrs. Perrin I saw.

            • Munchkn

              Yep! It was actually on Trading Spouses and the families would get a check afterward. She initially tore hers up, but then decided to take the money.

          • In_Stitches

            I’m sure. That show is like a roulette wheel: it’s gonna hit at some point and you don’t want to be watching when it does.

    • bitchybitchybitchy

      I will watch-I can’t help myself. But if it becomes too boring and/or infuriating, then I know of a French crime drama starring one of my favorites, Alain Delon that can be my alternate viewing.

      • conniemd

        The trick to watching and not driving yourself crazy is not caring about who wins, who goes home and why. I enjoy doing the TLo thing watching them work and imagine how I would redo what the designer did. But the definition of insanity is expecting an outcome based on talent and real fashion when we’ve been shown over and over that’s not going to happen.

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          The last time I was actually angry about the outcome was the Anya season. After that, I decided that I’d still watch, but try to keep some perspective about the show being entertainment first, second and third, and if some pleasing design resulted, that was a bonus.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            Everyone who is anyone was angry about the Anya season. It was worse than the Gretchen season because at least she could sew. And had met sleeves.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              Sleeves are sooooooo hard(whispered while batting long, artificially enhanced eyelashes approx. 100 bats per second)-and yes, I was bitter about that season for a long time.

            • Stubenville

              You need some tennis-racket sized-earrings to go with that look Anya

            • MilaXX

              Agreed. Know that I have come to piece with PR casting “types” I just go with the flow.

        • housefulofboys

          I don’t think I would watch anymore without the TLo commentary. It makes me too crazy.

      • Lisa_Co

        Ooo! What crime drama is that? I love Alain Delon, especially in Jean Pierre Melville’s film, Le Samourai.

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          The crime drama is “Frank Riva”, a French miniseries made in the early 2000′s. Delon plays a cop who’s been living incognito for several year who gets drawn back into a battle against a nasty crime syndicate. It’s available on DVD.
          I love Le Samourai-saw it several years ago; and, I just bought the Criterion Collection edition of “Purple Noon”, the movie that put Delon on the map. Delicious!

          • Paula Carr

            Oh, “Purple Noon” is awesome. Even if they totally screwed the pooch with the changed ending.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              On the back cover of the dvd the blurb describes Delon in “Purple Noon” as impossibly beautiful, and I quite agree.

            • Paula Carr

              I quibble about the change to the ending, but this movie, more than any other, really captured Highsmith’s sensibility. Just gorgeous.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I remember when I saw “Purple Noon”, which I saw after reading a rave review when it was re-released-just a great flick.

            • Paula Carr

              TCM happened to be airing it recently when I was reading a biography of Patricia Highsmith, so, at my advanced age, it was the first time I’d seen it. I immediately bought the dvd.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I didn’t know that it was airing on TCM-good to know, even though I have the DVD.

    • Tlazolteotl

      Hooray! I need this tonight- finishing up grading for the summer semester, gearing up for the fall. This is probably old news to the other teaching and higher ed BKs, but I just discovered the “Academic Tim Gunn” tumblr this week. Hilarious. I don’t know why it never occurred to me that Tim Gunn is a perfect mentor for grading as well as fashion- it should have! I will watch tonight, practice all his concerned facial expressions, and mentally convert commentary on fashion to commentary on research papers. “Your bibliography concerns me.” “I think that your paraphrasing of that author is a bit too…literal.”

      • random_poster

        Thanks for sharing that! Off to waste time reading through Tim Gunn memes…

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Looks from the other trailer like Sandhya will be seeking advice from Tim. Drama in teams.

      I really don’t like team challenges. Someone always comes off as a jerk and they don’t produce the most fun garments, either.

      On the other hand, UC. Gotta love the hot glue gun challenge. (Though seriously, pick one where there’s something that can be used as fabric but isn’t fabric — something hard to manipulate — and take away the muslin. And the glue gun.)

    • hughman

      I would pay money for them to get rid of that Florida Queen who thinks she’s Ricky Martin.

      However if this is Unconventional Materials week, I have the sinking feeling his years of sipping screwdrivers while staring at every tacky ass drag queen in the Sunshine State who has ever lypsynched “Harper Valley P.T.A.” in a dress made of Piggly-Wiggly bags is going to pay off and spare him again.

      Blerg.

      • Call me Bee

        Wow–I’ve only been to Disney, but your description of FL makes me want to never go there again. Ever.

        • Pennymac

          I used to live there. Its an accurate description!

          • BayTampaBay

            I still do live in Florida and it is still an accurate description

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        You just know that guy is going to stick around for 5-6 episodes. He’s giving just the kind of bitchy soundbites the showrunners love.

      • http://www.bertkeeter.com Bert Keeter

        Ricky Martin is not paleezed with the comparison!

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I am offended at your dissing of “Harper Valley P.T.A.”. I have fond memories of dancing around in my bedroom singing into a brush with a slip on my head to simulate long hair….oh, to be 7 again!

        • hughman

          I actually saw Jeannie C. Riley perform this song!! When I was a stylist in NYC, one of my friends (who was also a stylist) had a home in upstate NY and we’d go weekend there in the summers. One weekend me, her, another friend who did hair and makeup and some model went to a State Fair up there and she performed! We were entranced! And a little stoned! It was awesome!

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            You have solidified your standing as The Coolest!

            • hughman

              Not so cool but really fun. Did I mention we were stoned? Also we had this running joke about “not being too gay” because frankly it wasn’t a Bryant Park Crowd there. Weee!!! We were UNDERCOVER.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              Really fun = cool. Most people don’t get that. :-)

              Undercover Gays. Isn’t that a sitcom?

            • EveEve

              I am absolutely positive nobody in that crowd had any clue (whatsoever) that you were gay, much less stoned. Nope.

            • hughman

              It was in an outdoor set up and we sat in the front row and smoked cigarettes and ate corndogs while she sang. But when she finished her set we all stood and cheered for her. No one else stood but fuck them.

            • rh33

              My admiration for you increased when I read that you ate corndogs at the fair. Mmmmmmmm. Corndogs….

            • marlie

              As if there was any doubt. :)

          • MilaXX

            please tell me you remember the horrible Barbra Eden sitcom based on that song

            • Call me Bee

              Oh my gosh. I do. It was awful.

        • Call me Bee

          That song was big when I was in junior high or high school. I saw Jeannie C Riley sing it on Ed Sullivan. I liked the idea it conveyed, but the music was too boring for me. I was into psychedelic by that time….

        • Munchkn

          You did the slip on your head, too? I didn’t know anyone else did that!

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            How else could you pretend to have long hair when you had a pixie cut?!?!

            • rh33

              Slips also made good pretend bridal veils.

      • MilaXX

        and you know they’re going to keep him around until at least top 6 just for the drama.

    • Kate Andrews

      I’m sure Sandhya will do great since her aesthetic appears to be arts and crafts (not a compliment). I’ll watch, but I don’t care that much yet about who gets kicked off.

    • Dino Bonačić

      sharkitasharkitasharkita – TEAM SHARKITA!!

    • bitchybitchybitchy

      Well, we know how this will play out. At least one designer will freak out over having to use unconventional materials(have they never watched the show), another will have time management issues and be sewing/taping their model into the garment on the way to the runway, someone will have a melt down, etc. Will Korina and the Mitchell talk smack about Sandhya?

      • Pennymac

        And Good China will (almost) be shown!

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          Most definitely, or, as Faede and Heidi would say “Ohne zweifel”(without doubt)

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            I prefer to refer to him as e.e. umlaut.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              Love this-I am bowing down!

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              ;)

      • marlie

        And someone will throw their teammate under the bus when they get to the critique part of the runway.

    • FibonacciSequins

      That first photo looks like Tim’s visiting a really crappy jumble sale. I just hope Angela doesn’t have her inevitable nervous breakdown this week.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        She’s already teared up, and we haven’t hit the 15 minute mark.

      • MilaXX

        I’m just wondering how much of her twitchiness we’ll have to watch before she gets auf’d. Girlfriend is not made for reality tv.

    • marlie

      Just in time! I got my huge, huge, huge deadline in under the wire, and I’m just getting settled in to settle in to watch PR!

      • Jackie4g

        Atta girl! Have a bit of liquid refreshment.

    • PastryGoddess

      Oooh look

      I have two boxes of wine and a need to be up at 8am tomorrow. What could possibly go wrong?

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I love you. Will you marry me?

        • PastryGoddess

          Sure, if you overlook the drunk singing episodes

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            Certainly. I may even join in.

      • Jackie4g

        Thanks for the laugh.

      • PastryGoddess

        Also, if any of you kittens are in Baltimore. You must eat at The Smoking Swine food truck. I’m eating the rest of the brisket from my lunch today. It is magnificent. Jesus would weep

        • marlie

          Where is it? I don’t live in Baltimore, but I used to, and I still go down there to see friends as much as I can.

          • PastryGoddess

            They are in fells point Tuesday and Thursday. Monday, Wed, and Friday they move around. Like their facebook page. They keep it updated more than twitter.

            • marlie

              Thanks!

    • the webmistress

      This kitten is extra bitter tonight, and hoping for some amazing trash bag couture. *waves to metafilter*

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      I am unreasonably excited. I was in Seattle last week for the premier (for those of you who have been following along, it went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than I anticipated), and, somehow, reading along while watching On Demand just didn’t make it.

      Plaid, plaid, plaid, plaid! So, so plaid!

      • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ Alicia

        Good to hear! We said it would!

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      I’m hoping that fäde (I refer to him as Umlaut) and New Zealand guy and Sandhya do well this week. Hoping The Mitchell gets eliminated, but I’m not betting on it.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Am coming off 6 1/2 hours of IP Central Summer Party beer, wine and (greasy) food ingestion, gossip, team-building and goofing off. Am closing out at ye olde office and heading for the train, so I’ll not see the opening few minutes of this episode, but I imagine it will be wacky, weepy and wild.

      Will be in touch back at The Manse in about half an hour, O BK pals o’ mine.

      • Call me Bee

        When you get home, take a couple of Tums and some nice, clear schnappz to settle your stomach. Works great.

        • NDC_IPCentral

          Water, water and more water…. Boy, I wish there had been some green stuff in the food offerings…..

          • Janet B

            Anytime there’s a potluck – I bring a fancy green salad. There’s never enough green to counter act the chips and desserts.

    • the webmistress

      I know the runway show is supposed to be anonymous but wonder if the judges can tell what’s whose by looking at the designers. They all have the same look of unbridled ecstasy when their model comes out. Not to mention the hand-clapping. And the fist pumps.

      • marlie

        I wonder if they can figure it out in the first couple of episodes, but there definitely comes a time when you can just tell when something belongs to a particular designer.

    • ddfrog

      While waiting for the new PR, I’m watching last weeks edited version and there is all this new commentary added from the designers about who they think will win and be out. Weird. I wonder if that’s going to be a thing now.

      • Munchkn

        I hope not!

      • Kit_W

        I’m so glad you mentioned this. I noticed this happening about 2 seasons ago, that the original airing was way different than any subsequent airings. It seems that any remotely interesting part of the show (at least, according to my taste) that has to do with the designers actually working on their garments has been replaced by inane commentary or worse…more commercials.

    • TDSE

      That’s so nice of them to flash the designers’ names for us haha

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      i want it to be about popcorn.

      • Call me Bee

        Ooooh–we could hot glue a pile of popcorn onto a muslin dress, no? With a Red Vine belt.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          My dream dress! I’d get married in that! (But only to Pastry Goddess)

      • alyce1213

        “Intoxicating” popcorn. I can picture Tim eating one kernel at a time. For sure, he’s never stuffed a handful in his face.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I love Tim, but I can’t imagine him giving in and experiencing anything in its overwhelming entirety.

        • Shibori Girl

          Why am I picturing Tim eating popcorn with a fork and knife? Of course. There. Is a linen napkin on his lap.

      • PastryGoddess

        Now I want popcorn

    • Cheryl

      Teams! Oh, hell no.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Shut up Amanda.

    • ddfrog

      ugh teams…

    • Cheryl

      OK, guesses as to product placement?

    • TDSE

      Teams are the worst. And everyone needs to shut up about Sandhya winning last week. $5 she wins it again this week.

      • Munchkn

        The designers are acting like spoiled brats whining about Sandhya winning last week.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          Seriously. It’s only the second show.

    • UsedtobeEP

      I missed the beginning—what is the source of the materials?

      • TDSE

        “Movie and movie experience items” God love Tim

        • UsedtobeEP

          Umm, popcorn and Junior Mints? Weirdness. I saw them in the theatre but didn’t get it.

      • Call me Bee

        A movie theatre-I think. Or a movie set–props, stuff that the crew would use…like that.

        • Lisa_Co

          I’ve been to that movie theater recently. It’s great. An old-fashioned one; only 2 screens and the interior is still the original with frescos on the ceiling and gilt on the Doric columns.

    • alula_auburn

      I think trying to sew next to a popcorn machine all day would make me hella sick.

    • Chinotto

      This is looking less & less like fashion’s Iron Chef and more like Chopped. :(

    • alula_auburn

      How does ANYONE get on the show this far in and not know Amanda’s deep sekrit wisdom about not using fabric in the unconventional challenge?

    • Roberta Johnson

      I’m watching Twelve Chairs with an impossibly young and beautiful Frank Langella on TCM.

      • UsedtobeEP

        That sounds like an invitation to leave this madness.

      • Call me Bee

        One of my favorite films of all time. He was totally dreamy in that movie….

      • Jackie4g

        He was quite the dish, wasn’t he?

    • alyce1213

      “I’m LITERALLY the only person who’s done this before.” Aw, I don’t want to get a hate on so early.

      • PastryGoddess

        Why not? FEEL those emotions. Don’t let them fester inside. Don’t forget to share

        • alyce1213

          Well, there is the Mitchell — I hated him the minute I saw him.

      • UsedtobeEP

        What’s the phrase? “If you can’t say anything nice, come sit by me.”

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          But only if you can be snarky. If you’re just going to be an asshole, I don’t have time.

          • UsedtobeEP

            Yes. In best Olympia Dukakis style.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      It’s only the second show, and I really, really want Amanda to shut up about all her “experience”.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I would rather have seen Alexander or even Ken than Amanda-she just grates.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I would have gone Alexander. I didn’t think I’d miss Ken, but I think I prefer undoctored aggression to Amanda’s passive-aggressive assholery.

    • Erica

      I love that they are placing their names next to their heads! I’m still going to make up bitchy nicknames but it’s nice to know.

      • ddfrog

        They started that on Under the Gunn. I figured they were using that show to test out new graphics and other ways to change the show up.

    • TDSE

      If someone just strings together popped popcorn together as a dress,
      I’ll declare them the winner regardless of how cracktastic it is.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Only if there are twizzlers involved….

        • TDSE

          I miss Jillian!!!!!

    • PastryGoddess

      We are 11 minutes in and Angela has admitted that she gets intimidated and cried. Girl Get a Grip

      • guest2visits

        I would think Angela would be a good pairing with those two if she would only look up from her trembling scissors.

    • bitchybitchybitchy

      OK, Angela’s already tearing up, and we just hit the first commercial break. It’s going to be a bumpy night, to cite Margo Channing.

      • dash1211

        She’s going to need a straight jacket rather than a seat belt, that’s for sure.

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          Being singled out by Heidi as having the design that brought down her team’s overall score hasn’t helped Angela’s fragile self-esteem. She strikes me as being one of those very bright people who put enormous pressure on themselves.

      • evave2

        I noticed that too. Oh, she is going to be hard to take if she lasts more than half the season. Week after week of weeping. Sort of like Ricky from Season 5.

    • Chinotto

      Tim says “PuPu Platter,” and the designers don’t play well with others. So predictable. I’d love to see a reinvigorated PR.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Okay, so far, Carrie is playing the One Sane Man part. And I like the fact that she’s been looking forward to the unconventional one. A couple of guys seem to be a bit too comfortable with the notion that they’re supposed to be leading those poor little girls around.

    • Theresa Q

      Hi Kittens. I have a feeling the Sandhya group are going to blame her just because of immunity.

      • ddfrog

        She’s not being portrayed as a team player. At all.

        • TDSE

          I think the other two on her team are coming off worse

          • alula_auburn

            The word “stray” is incredibly annoying IMO.

          • evave2

            Sorry, I think she is strong in her convictions BUT in a team challenge she has to find a way for them to look coordinated. I think the other two are trying to get her to see that she could send out a nude model and NOT go home, they are in danger of going home.
            I think Hernan is operating in terror; if somebody came up with a different plan they all agreed on it could work. But nobody has any ideas, well Sandhya has an idea the other two hate and nobody can get from a to c

            • semirose

              So she should have just sat down and shut up like they wanted her to? Her original point, that the looks can’t all be the same, was valid. That came from a wanting to win place and in the end they deferred to Hermann and scrapped everything which was a mistake. Imagine if they’d used her already made circle skirt with the top of her outfit that went down the runway.

            • evave2

              I think Hernan and Carrie were unable to form any kind of “meld” with her aesthetic. Then they both got terrified of going home. Shadhya was unable to compromise usefully with them. They weren’t nice to her because they were both TERRIFIED of being auf’d. I don’t like the scenes of people going to Tim for some kind of affirmation experience.
              Her comment about not being the same was valid, but their comment about not being uncoordinated was valid too.
              And one of them did get sent home.
              The fact that everybody they showed discussing the previous show was shocked and really confused about her win restates that it appeared most of them did not understand the judges reasoning OR feel her garment was well-made or well-done or well-thought-out.
              I think under the circumstances (she was there no matter WHAT) she should’ve been more accommodating and they might’ve been more accommodating. While the skirt was cute it didn’t go with anything at all that the other two were making.
              Also I didn’t think the winning team were all that; I wanted straw-dress guy to win, that was really repurposed with beauty.

            • Eztizen Sánchez

              They tried to have a brainstorming together first thing and she basically said “let’s do our own thing and at the end of the day, try to put something on all three garments”. So no, she shouldn’t have shut up, which is what she did. She should have talked and shared ideas at the start of the challenge so the three of them made a collection, and not three different pieces of shit.

        • Danielle

          Completely disagree. They have been riding her since last week since they (incorrectly) selected her for the auf. They’re being horrid.

          • ddfrog

            I meant the editing, to me anyway, was showing her as not playing along and just doing her own thing. But yes, they were being horrid to her.

        • Jackie4g

          She’s not team player. She encountered resistance rather than praise and went weeping to Tim? Nope.

          • sundaynightaddict

            The tattletale-ing is what sent me over the edge.

            • Jackie4g

              I’m getting a strong weasel vibe from Sandhya, not warming to this behavior.

          • evave2

            I didn’t like that either. I know they are all artists but I don’t think she knows how to do a workaround to get to YES with the other two.

            I wonder if the language barrier between her and Hernan (I find him understandable and Carrie finds him understandable, maybe the fact they are both in their non-first language makes it harder for the two of them to communicate); but personally I don’t think Carrie really has an idea what to do, she’s mostly agreeing with Hernan.

            Do you think Carrie just wants to go along or does she really have her own idea? She latched onto Hernan’s like THAT.

            • Jackie4g

              First of all, I am speaking from no great authority whatsoever, just my gut reaction, so kindly bear that in mind. I get an “entitled” vibe from Sandhya because she couldn’t bear not being praised.
              I liked Hernan, and he’s definitely got a contribution to make, but Ms. Blue Hair (is that Carrie?), was someone I was looking forward to seeing create more designs, so it’s disappointing to see her go.
              But the main thing is that the Unconventional Materials Challenge is always a nightmare, and it’s dumb luck that an otherwise talented designer caught a bum break because someone else had immunity. That’s the premise, though, that kind of thing just happens. Maybe there will be a crisis along the way, and they will ask her to come back.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        They are being stunningly mean to her. She seems to have a plan – that seems to have fit with their initial plan – but because it seems that no one believes that she should have won, it’s clear that no one cares.

        • Jackie4g

          She seems pretty inflexible to me and it’s supposed to be a team challenge.

          • sundaynightaddict

            I agree – and if you have immunity it’s sort of your duty to try to work with the other people. I can’t count how many times I have heard on that show (and others like it) that you shouldn’t let somebody with immunity bring your team down. Of course, they usually then contradict that by telling everybody to stay true to their own aesthetic lol

    • Stubenville

      Sorry I’m late. Backstabbing teams already?

      • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

        Just wait a min or two ….. Or a commercial break.

    • Chinotto

      Two-tone purple hair girl is my early favorite for most tedious. And I like the silver skirt with numbers.

    • Stubenville

      Dead grandfather – take a drink!

      • TDSE

        Escaped semi-dictatorship with nothing, take another!

      • TDSE

        TWO dictatorships, another! God we’re going to be drunk.

    • Stubenville

      Escape communism – take a drink!

    • BuffaloBarbara

      And do we really need subtitles on Hernan? He has an accent, but he speaks perfectly clearly.

    • Stubenville

      Escape communism again – take a drink!

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Communism is bad.

        • Stubenville

          Cocktails are good. =)

          • evave2

            I hear ya, Stubenville. Me, I like Margaritas.

    • Stubenville

      Money was tight – take a drink!

      • Kitten Mittons

        Done and done. And done again.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        I’m just going to bring out my whole wine box and see how much of it I can get through…

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          No point in sharing!

          • BuffaloBarbara

            It’s all in the spirit of the team challenge. :D (Also, the only one to share with is my cat, and I’m told that’s not a good idea.)

            • PastryGoddess

              been there, doing that. constantly reminding myself I have to get up in the morning

            • BuffaloBarbara

              But I don’t — I’m on vacation! :D

            • Janet B

              Yea for vacations!

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              One of my cats likes beer. I try to discourage it, but I did name him Joey Ramone, so it’s probably my fault.

        • Stubenville

          Use a straw; no washing wineglasses after. =)

    • TDSE

      “We kind of went with the the theme of, um, cocktail dresses”

      • Stubenville

        Cocktails are good… LOL

        • evave2

          Are you going to be typing that all night? Probably. BUT I agree.

      • PastryGoddess

        Cocktails were involved in some way for sure

    • Frank_821

      Alexander’s looks pretty cool

    • Stubenville

      Angela seems about to melt into a weepy mess at any second.

    • Frank_821

      Why is that Angela being so stubborn

    • Ellen T

      Where in the hell are they getting these “designers?” Gah!

    • PastryGoddess

      Can I just say that Tim is looking sartorially splendiferous tonight.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        One may always say that!

    • Call me Bee

      Since Tim hates what their team is doing, they will win.

      • PastryGoddess

        Exactly

    • Stubenville

      “I’m being picked on because the other team members won’t let me throw them under the bus.”

      • Frank_821

        Meow!

        but funny

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Possibly. Or it could be because they’re assholes.

        • Stubenville

          It is Project Runway after all.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          If we’re talking about the team I think, there’s a tossup on who’s being an asshole.

    • alula_auburn

      What in the sweet deep-fried HELL was that Raising Asia commericial I just saw??? so. . .much. . .badness

      • Cheryl

        This is my summer of mindless guilty pleasures. I can’t wait!

    • the webmistress

      Know what? It does suck to be on a team with someone who has immunity.

      • ddfrog

        Absolutely. And if you have immunity have the decency to roll with the other designers bad ideas.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          That’s not bad idea since no matter what, they’re going to blame her.

      • Cheryl

        But she’s the only winner so far; maybe they should follow her lead.

    • PastryGoddess

      Raising Asia or How I grew up to be a spoiled vapid drama queen

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Or a PR contestant. I can see why they’re paired.

      • Stubenville

        I crave a mash-up with Dance Moms.

        • PastryGoddess

          The worlds smallest black hole would probably form

        • alyce1213

          There’s already been. That’s where Asia got her TV start. So horrible.

          • Stubenville

            Glad I missed it

    • Frank_821

      Personally I think Sandhya should just try to adapt to their designs and serve as a bridge. This is a tam competition where she has immunity. She’s got nothing to lose except good will

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Sorry for pointing out a typo, but I kind of dig the idea of a tam competition, where everyone is sweating bullets over what to make the pom-pom from, and which direction it should be tilted on the model’s head… ;p

        • Frank_821

          actually I saw that typo and thought the same thing. I wouldn’t put it past them to have a tam challenge and make it a scotsmen challenge

          • Shibori Girl

            With a caber toss using their dressmakers’ dummies!

      • MacFrannie

        I’d like a Tim Tam challenge. Garments made completely out of Tim Tams. Mmmmmmm

    • BuffaloBarbara

      You know what would be fun some year? A team challenge where people get the idea of teams, and everybody competes with other teams, instead of with their teammates. Yeah. Crazy talk, there.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Makes sense = can’t be done.

      • Stubenville

        It’s not reality tee-vee unless there’s a minimum if one weeping meltdown and three conflicts.

        • PastryGoddess

          per show

          • Stubenville

            At least! =)

      • blondie65

        Oh no…that is too much like real everyday life. Real boring every day going to work and fixing/solving/developing, etc etc with your group everyday.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          Actually, I was thinking it sounded like a nice fantasy moment… ;p

      • DollyMadisonWI

        Now you’re just talking whack. It would be the end of the PR world as we know if if someone actually went into a team challenge with a good attitude.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          Oh, yeah. I realized that right after I posted. I mean, what fun could possibly be had by teams working together against other teams? Where on television do you ever see such a thing!? You’d never be able to sell ad space for it.

    • TDSE

      Oh Hernan, stop. Don’t be calling anyone baby. And you’re not in charge, queen. Sit down.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        He’s….something.

        • Stubenville

          A queen not THE queen.

      • alula_auburn

        I’ve done way too many projects with That Guy. Ugh

    • Chinotto

      Sandhya’s skirt is adorable. I wouldn’t want to throw it out for the lame teammates.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Oh no, it’s Tim’s Oprah moment!

    • Stubenville

      Drat, no Kumbaya moment.

    • PastryGoddess

      Why did that tete-a-tete just happen? That was a whole lot of ass kissing going on

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Did you know Korinna is part Native American?

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Really? Why don’t they say something about that?

      • PastryGoddess

        What NO Really! *shock*

      • evave2

        I have been surprised at the sheer number of non-native born Americans this year, it is GREAT. I love New Zealand guy AND German guy. And Angela and Hernan and Sandhya. I don’t remember anybody else right now. If everybody can mention their escape from communism why can’t Korinna mention being her father’s nationality? They are all trying to sell themselves and their aesthetic. I am SO glad we only have the one dead grandfather so far. Personally I HATE dead relative stories.

        • Eztizen Sánchez

          There’s a difference between mentioning you’re from the DR and ending all sentences with “Because I’m part Native American”. I’m making a dress because I’m part Native American. I’m using colour because I’m part Native American. My aesthetic is better because I’m part Native American. I’m a bitch because I’m part Native American.

          • evave2

            I did not get that from her at all. And I didn’t think she was a bitch. But I do think different people see things differently.
            I liked Hernan, I thought Tim was too harsh on him. Both Carrie and he could get auf’d. The three of them could not come together on a plan of action for their collection. THEN Tim gave them a harsh assessment and all three of them freaked. Yeah, I thought he got pushy on his ideas. So what? His butt was on the line.
            I happen to live in New Mexico, and in a pueblo area. LOTS of pueblos around here. People discuss being native American (they don’t use that word, they mention the pueblo they are from) ALL THE TIME and it doesn’t upset me in the least.
            I live near a pueblo of 700 people who are the only ones to speak their language. And they have kept it alive for over 500 years. So hearing somebody discuss being a native American or a puebloan or a Dine is ok by me.
            I watch Chopped on Food Network every Tuesday religiously. I love it. But every cheftestant tells dead relative stories and how they want to win for “blank” and they all cry. Guys, girls, young, old. They all cry. I have gotten rather hard-hearted about dead relatives because of that. It’s like everybody is saying I deserve to win because of “blank” and I can’t judge WHO loved gramma more (on Chopped, it is generally a dead gramma who taught them to cook).
            I appreciated Hernan’s story, I don’t think he overdid it.
            I appreciated Korinne’s story, and did not find it overdone. But I agree she mentioned her father’s background more than Hernan did his grandfather.

            • Eztizen Sánchez

              It’s a reality show. They’re basically required to tell a sob story. The difference is, some of them tell it once, when told to do so, and others can’t stop talking about it. And as you said, “she mentioned her father’s background more than Hernan did his grandfather”.
              Hernan mentioned his grandfather helping him start his career once. Korina’s first sentence in the show was “because I’m Native American” and hasn’t stopped since. Sandhiya is from a whole different culture, country, history, language, and doesn’t constantly remind you that everything she does is because she’s Indian.

              I’m from a small town of 1,000 people, in the mountains, where we try to preserve our local traditions and our local dialect of a minority language that was forbidden until 40 years ago. I don’t explain all of my actions with “because I’m Bizkaitarra”.

            • evave2

              That sounds like where I’m from; could you tell me where Bizkaitarra is?
              I agree she mentioned her background more than once, multiple times. But I already said Hernan only mentioned HIS grandfather once. The fact that the guy helped him start his business well, I fell he wishes his grandfather could see him on the show. It would bum me out anyway.
              In this area people talk about being from their pueblo all the time. It informs somebody like me of what their aesthetic is, it seems like everybody I meet from our closest pueblo is an artist of one type or another and knowing about that helps me understand their art.

            • Eztizen Sánchez

              It’s part of the Basque Country.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      The straw jacket looks really cool

    • PastryGoddess

      Hernan should stop talking now…like really now

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I was more thinking about 15 minutes ago.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Yeah. I was initially inclined to be semi-generous (though I was side-eying the whole “I’ll take charge easily” thing), but he’s not helping himself.

      • MacFrannie

        He is a major dickhead!

      • blondie65

        yep…kind of really done with him. Which of course means he’ll be around for at least 4+ episodes.

    • Frank_821

      Good lord Angela. this is just sad

    • Chinotto

      Amanda is getting the crazy eyes …

    • Stubenville

      Angela = bottom three, escapes the auff by the skin of her teeth.

    • Theresa Q

      I’m afraid to wonder who is coming off the strongest. The Blue Team?1?

    • mom2ajs5

      Angela sort of reminds me of myself when I thought I could just be a fashion merch major without actually knowing how to sew. That didn’t last too long, haha!

    • PastryGoddess

      Is that Shakira or Melanie Griffith?

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Completely off-topic: I live for the day when I can buy Trader Joe’s Cookie Butter and not just eat the jar. I made it with Nutella. I can do it with Cookie Butter.

      • UsedtobeEP

        I just don’t buy either of them anymore. Can’t stop eating it.

    • MacFrannie

      I’m surprised how much I’m liking Fade. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Maybe because he’s dealt with jack booted thugs and this PR experience doesn’t even register on his stress meter.

      • mom2ajs5

        I’m surprised that I like him too. I hope it holds through the season.

      • NDC_IPCentral

        I’ve decided that his name was a fake-out for the viewership. Sounds as though he’ll be a pretentious empty suit, but not at all. Fade is a 40-something German guy, so he has some life experience, some maturity and a sense of humor that seems grounded. I’m rooting for him.

        • Call me Bee

          Yes–he seems to have a typical Euro stoic-osity in that all the emotional junk just doesn’t faze him.

    • Guest

      Which commercial is not like the others?

    • Stubenville

      “Not being in the bottom” instantly means they will end up in the bottom.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      “some tension between Sandhya and I” — Oh, Carrie, take a remedial English class, wouldya?

      • housefulofboys

        I hate that so much, and you hear it so much. Don’t get me started on grammar and punctuation…

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I’m glad I’m not the only one that cringed.

    • Call me Bee

      Awwww Tim didn’t say, “Use the Aldo accessory wall….thoughtfully….” I has a sad.

    • MilaXX

      Just got home. This is the paste crap on muslin challenge right?

      • Call me Bee

        Esxaaaaatly.

      • Stubenville

        Kinda – movie memorabilia crap this time.

    • Stubenville

      Oh Angela, it’s f-ing paper cutouts, not rocket science.

      • johnnyboyjohn

        Yeah, I love it when “designers” get all precious about making snowflakes out of paper like it’s High Art and only the delicate genius can be trusted with this important task, so back off!

    • alula_auburn

      Huh, I missed last week–Mary Kay will always make me think of my unhinged aunt.

      • PastryGoddess

        Every family needs an unhinged aunt..or three

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I AM the unhinged aunt. Yay, me!

          • Call me Bee

            Hey, me too!

          • PastryGoddess

            I’m getting there and I’m not even an aunt merely a cousin

          • alula_auburn

            I like to consider myself unhinged in training (small niece is but three). But I won’t sell my niece yucky coral-orange lipstick that makes her look like she made out with a pumpkin.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              11 grown ass nieces and nephews – 9 of them married, 5 with kids. I’m on my second generation of unhinged aunt.

          • evave2

            God bless you, I will come over for a pat-hug, auntie.

        • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ Alicia

          Depends. I have 2 pleasantly eccentric unhinged aunts and 2 malicious and damaging unhinged aunts.

      • johnnyboyjohn

        At least Hot Make-up Daddy is back.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Why must all the Angelas on this show be unstable??

      • PastryGoddess

        You need to go and school them on the proper way for Angela’s to act

        • Angela_the_Librarian

          Not to mention the obsession with flowers…those are practically paper fleurchons!

          • Call me Bee

            Ahahahahahaha….yeah.

          • Stubenville

            Jubilee Jumbles!

      • Frank_821

        Now let’s be fair, S3 Angela ws passive aggressive not unstable…lol.,, Vincent was unstable

        • Angela_the_Librarian

          I suppose you’re right. I’ve tried hard to block all memories of Vincent and the things that “turned him on”

        • evave2

          God, the florettes. “I am obsessed with florettes.” If I mispelled florettes, forgive me. That was a hoot. I never ever ever met anybody obsessed with florettes Or even heard of anybody obsessed with florettes.

          • Frank_821

            Technically it was rosettes and Fleurchons. It spawned a weekly feature on the BPR blog-Fleurchon Friday

            • evave2

              THANK YOU. I could not remember that word. Isn’t it odd how some things just disappear from your circulating memory? You know she wasn’t really bad, just that she kept taking fleurchons onto everything. I am obsessed with fleurchons. What an odd element to feel obsessive about.

    • PastryGoddess

      Ok kittens go and visit TLo’s twitter NOW

      DO IT!

      • Cheryl

        SHOCK! HORROR! SHOCK! HORROR! – from Nina Garcia.

      • Stubenville

        ROTFLMAO!

      • Theresa Q

        They are on a ROLL!

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        But I don’t want to Twitter! It’s mean to make me sadz.

        • PastryGoddess

          just go and look, no need to tweet. pinky swear

    • oldscrumby

      I miss makeup daddy’s tight t-shirts…

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        We all do….

    • Stubenville

      ROTFLMAO – TLo’s Twitter feed.

    • MacFrannie

      Mary Kay gives me zits. Ugh

    • Theresa Q

      Where the heck did they get those film dresses come from? I turned my head and….

    • Shibori Girl

      I’m on PDT and won’t see the epi for hours. Thanks for the warnings of the horrors to come.

    • Stubenville

      So this time will someone win for making their materials look like fabric, or will someone be auffed for their stuff looking like fabric? (Which drugs did the judges do?)

      • Pennymac

        All of them.

    • ddfrog

      What is Heidi wearing??

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Jeebus, Heidi…. dressed for an Amsterdam red light window???

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Heidi, I don’t mean to alarm you, but someone made you a top that deliberately makes it look like you’re wearing your underwear on the outside.

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      Heidi, sheer is not only not chic anymore, but also not even shocking. Let’s just stop with it.

    • Danielle

      Why are you listening to someone who has previously failed? Hitching your stars to the wrong wagon, Korina and other person whose name I can’t recall.

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      Carrie’s looks like a wonder woman costume made from fruit roll ups.

    • Frank_821

      well that worked out well

    • Stubenville

      Like the Sprouse look.

      • Frank_821

        yes hers was the best of their group

    • Theresa Q

      i’m not seeing Fantasy or futuristic?

    • Stubenville

      WIthout the muslin, Amanda.s model would be naked.

      • alula_auburn

        I thought she looked really uncomfortable.

      • PastryGoddess

        Where was the textile they were supposed to create?

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Where did Sandiyha’s cute skirt go?!

      • Stubenville

        Plastered with film strips.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          So she rolled with her teammates’ horrible ideas….

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      Amanda’s looks inspired by Lupita’s Met Gala outfit from this year.

    • Stubenville

      The panniers! Barf.

    • Call me Bee

      Looks like Green Team nailed it!

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      Alexander’s is really pretty.

    • PastryGoddess

      Kinda liking the green team

    • Stubenville

      Weird bulges on Fade’s

      • PastryGoddess

        He did that on purpose. I forgot what he used

    • Frank_821

      I don’t see strong cohesion with Angela’s team

    • PastryGoddess

      Angela’s look does not go

    • Pennymac

      Dare I say that so far nothing is horrible?

      • UsedtobeEP

        Yeah, it was a good show. Agree. Lots of fun stuff in there. Hey, fashion before drama.

    • Frank_821

      Mitchell’s is actually fun

      • BuffaloBarbara

        I know. I was shocked to think, “I want Mitchell to win this!”

    • Chinotto

      Heidi is so happy with all the tight & shiny-shiny!

    • PastryGoddess

      That team is on the bottom

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      two collections – the first and third? – looked the same.

    • Stubenville

      Is Kini’s model wearing a bath mat?

    • TDSE

      And it’s official, nothing is AWFUL. First non-conventional materials challenge for that to happen?

    • mom2ajs5

      Kini going home?

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Torn between team blue and team purple. I loved the straw dress and the disc dress!

      • Qitkat

        Those were our favorites too. Mr Q just announced he is done, and I will be watching the rest of the season alone :(

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      Kini’s dress looks like someone ate a bunch of school spirit and threw up on a poor defenseless model.

      • PastryGoddess

        Taste’s Like Team Spirit?

        • Slade Thunderdragon

          Yeah. Team Spirit from a restaurant which failed its health inspection, but bribed the inspector so they could still profit off of their E.Coli-infested offerings of pep.

    • TDSE

      That’s some bullshit about Angela’s dress. It was nowhere near that bad.

      • ddfrog

        To be fair it was not finished. 50% muslin.

        • TDSE

          Pretty sure all of the white underneath wasn’t muslin but scripts. She would have been wiser to have the typeface side be the outside, but still.

          • ddfrog

            Good point. Maybe it’s just that it didn’t look finished.

        • TDSE

          ANNNNNND that argument just lost, given Amanda’s look. Judge’s love their crack and all.

      • PastryGoddess

        It wasn’t bad at all, but it wasn’t cohesive either. And it stuck out like a sore thumb

      • Call me Bee

        Not compared to some other the other teams dresses, but it was compare to what the two guys did. Theirs were both outstanding, and hers was boring.

      • TDSE

        It just totally smacked of producer manipulated drama. Heidi was going to say that unless Angela’s dress was spectacular.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          Totally!

    • PastryGoddess

      Fuck me Angela, get over yourself

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      Angela’s was not the worst up there. I don’t feel that the judges really needed to single her out.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Agreed. It wasn’t great, but really, not that terrible, either.

        • Slade Thunderdragon

          Yeah. At least when they called out Patricia’s from a few seasons ago for bringing down Michelle’s during that one round, Patricia’s had a bunch of ugly white leather fringe on it or whatever.

      • evave2

        I think what the judges were saying was that the OTHER two in her group were so good if she had had a semi-good dress they would’ve won.
        Even my husband like the straw dress. Totally cool. But her look dragged the other two down.

        To me it seems like she believes that because she TRIES everybody should give her a trophy. Her idea was not good She did not execute it well. Her teammates did really good work and got screwed by her poor work. So it wasn’t that hers was the WORST it was just BAD.

        • semirose

          I could go with that argument if the winner didn’t have basically the same dress but with lanyards instead of snowflakes glued on. And the other two on that team were waaaaaaaay stronger than the other two on Amanda’s team.

    • Frank_821

      I am surprised they already established the winnign and losing team

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Well, Frau Klum relished giving Amanda a pounding, didn’t she?

      • Stubenville

        She was probably hoping for waterworks.

      • Cheryl

        I don’t like to see her criticized because she seems very fragile. I don’t mind snarking the unjustifiable optimists, but when it’s someone so close to tears, it’s not fun.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          Exactly.

        • PastryGoddess

          If she is THAT fragile, she doesn’t belong on this show.

        • ddfrog

          Agreed. But if you can’t handle criticism, you shouldn’t be in fashion.

      • Gatto Nero

        You mean Angela?

        • evave2

          Yes, you are right. It was Angela. I find I am getting less and less tolerant of criers. And she started crying during the auditions. They put her on to fail. I think third time will be the charm, because they didn’t like her work last week, and they didn’t like her work this week.

          You know, last week somebody suggested no aufs for three weeks. I so agree, but I think with the no aufs for three weeks, the judges should give critiques to every garment. That way they know where they stand.

    • Frank_821

      I imagine the loser will be either Amanda or Korina

      • Call me Bee

        I’d say Amanda, since hers was just strings on a muslin.

      • Stubenville

        I agree, but are they ready to auf the “fan favorite” so soon?

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Sean is very good, but the problem is, he makes unflattering clothes very well.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      WHAT?

    • the webmistress

      The curse of the team member with immunity strikes again.

    • Call me Bee

      Huh–didn’t see that coming!

    • Stubenville

      And Amamda will win for a bunch of strings on a muslin dress. Cracktastick.

    • Frank_821

      really amanda’s team was on top…I think they were daring to fabricate,,but it felt rough

    • UsedtobeEP

      I am surprised about that.

    • Chinotto

      Know-it-all Carrie. Should have let Sandhya keep her skirt!

      • housefulofboys

        Kinda loving that.

        ETA: Loving that Sandhya was right and that Carrie is going to be taken down a notch (I hope).

    • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

      I need another glass of wine!

    • Stubenville

      Hope the Sprouse look wins.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Oh, Carrie. Way to throw Sandiyha under the bus!

    • alula_auburn

      Now let’s see how they will blame Sandhya for eventually going along with their ideas.

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        Especially when they’ll probably criticize them for making too similar dresses (just as Sandhya warned them about)

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          That is completely what the criticism is going to be.

    • Frank_821

      actually I dig the marquee dress a lot! that’s probably made the difference

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      I would laugh at the choice for the winning team, but it’s not funny that they won. It’s sad. They were honestly the worst team.

    • alula_auburn

      Do I sound like a Philistine if I ask WHERE they are taking text and font? I mean, I’m a word geek, so I love me some text or font, but. . .meh.

      Ugh, not loving this “vibed” as a verb.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      With all the SF talk, I assumed they were going for a greenscreen reference!

    • stayl

      How is Amanda’s dress “stunning”?

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Drugs. Clearly.

      • PastryGoddess

        They all drank the Kool-Aid

      • Chinotto

        Stunningly bad.

      • SewingSiren

        In the script.

    • Stubenville

      The coronation of Amanda. Stop trying to make it happen Heidi!

      • Frank_821

        at least Amanda was being gracious about sharing the credit

        • GTrain

          I dunno… saying they should pick whichever is their favorite, when Heidi said hers was her favorite was a lil bit shady to me

          • marlie

            Yeah, she knew that she shouldn’t say “pick me!” so that was her rather insincere (in my opinion) next-best option.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        From now on, we shall christen Amanda “Fetch.”

        • PastryGoddess

          You win

        • TDSE

          YES! TLo needs to make that happen.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          The internet now belongs to you.

    • Cheryl

      Who is the guest judge? Did they identify her?

      • Stubenville

        Some blogger.

      • marlie

        Garance Dore. She’s a fashion photographer and blogger. She’s also The Sartorialist’s partner & girlfriend. She’s a talented photographer, and she has an eye for wearing and catching interesting “on the street” fashion, but I don’t know much that qualifies her to judge “runway” fashion. But the again… what qualifications do most any other guest judges have?

        • Gatto Nero

          Zero.

    • mom2ajs5

      Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results = me watching Project Runway year after year.

      • mom2ajs5

        Except the very early years that is!

    • blondie65

      I kinda like they included as their materials…. “VHS tape”. Can’t remember the last time I’ve heard that….

    • Chinotto

      Ohhhh, throwing Tim under the bus is never the right move.

    • oldscrumby

      Now it’s Tim’s fault for not understanding their genius?

    • Frank_821

      In fairness they do look a lot alike

      • SewingSiren

        But so do the winning collection.

    • TDSE

      Oh Carrie, you’re killing yourself.

      • GTrain

        hopefully

      • MilaXX

        send her home, she bugs!

    • Stubenville

      Thank you Nina!

    • MilaXX

      It looks like Destiny’s Child costumes during the Tina Knowles era. fugly!

    • PastryGoddess

      oh is this Gretchen level justification. Delicious

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        This is just the second episode – I think they win.

    • PastryGoddess

      Do these studded tires make my bus look fat?

      • MilaXX

        Hee!

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      Project Runway: Opposite Day Edition.

    • Stubenville

      This is getting desperate and ugly.

      • alula_auburn

        Getting serious vicarious embarrasment here.

        • SouthernGirlRena

          I am stealing vicarious embarrassment. I have an almost fatal case myself. I can’t even watch shows like American Idol.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I physically cringed.

    • dash1211

      Spittin’ into the wind.

    • MilaXX

      I actually liked the 2 safe collections better.

      • Qitkat

        Absolutely! We are baffled in this household.

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      • Adrianna Grężak

        Throughout the episode I thought “Ok, Project Runway Season 13 is reminding me of older seasons – less personality disorders, more conflict about actual design” – and then the “winning” team was revealed.

        I’m convinced that the producers created a “teamwork” story arch and chose the Amanda’s team to juxtapose the (clearly) worst collection. I found it suspect that there were clips of that team talking about how well they were communicating and getting along earlier in the episode. Tim pretty much summerized it in the judging – he told one team that they weren’t doing well and they still failed, the other team regrouped and were chosen as the winners

        Also, the teams were clearly organized by the producers, and I began to wonder if Sandhya won the first episode because all the designers hated her work and the producers knew that the next episode was a 3-person team challenge. (And therefore they knew her teammates would gang up on her and fight)

        • MilaXX

          I’m certain the teams are grouped for maximum drama. I also think the producers like award early wins to the returning designer like they did Kate last year just to further play with the minds of the other designers by making them believe she knows more about playing the game than they do.

    • MacFrannie

      Ooooo. Nina is PISSED.

    • Slade Thunderdragon

      Nina: “I don’t see the reason we have to explain our decisions to them.”

      Isn’t that what a critique is though? Or is this proof of the fact that theses decisions are arbitrary?

      • Qitkat

        Her arrogance and defensiveness is over the top.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I’m kind of over her as a judge. She’s the one that harps on wearablity and marketability when that’s NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

          • DollyMadisonWI

            I am SO OVER her as a judge. She does not seem open to anything that isn’t mainstream or middle-of-the-road.

    • Chinotto

      Can they send both of them home? Please?

    • Frank_821

      okay now that’s was immature of them to selectively quote Nina

    • Stubenville

      They should all go home for that damn hair.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      OMG. Hernan and Carrie just stooped to new lows. They are complete assholes.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Yup. It was originally a tie, but in the end, they won assholes of the week on a team week, which probably means they win the title for the season.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          Which/if one of them stays can crank out the best, most creative stuff ever and they will still be an asshole. And it is forever captured on tape. Even as they claim “edit!”, they still said it and behaved it. You can’t make an edit that bad if the material is not there.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Wow Sandyha is more gracious than me. I would have yelled “told you so” in their faces.

      • Lattis

        I’m different. Crooooooow!!!!!!!! I love your avatar. : )

      • pdquick

        Oh, wow. I wonder if Sandhya finally just decided, “Screw it. I’ll make what they’re making and let them hang themselves”? That would be kind of awesome.

    • UsedtobeEP

      Nina seems just unreasonably angry this evening. And yes you do have to explain your decisions. It’s kind of your job up there, lady.

      • HM3

        Thank you! I thought Nina and The Posen were being unreasonably biting/cruel. Maybe the judges got together in advance and decided it would be a Bitchy Day?

        • sundaynightaddict

          The fact that she tweeted “Meana Garcia is coming today … @ProjectRunway #getready #ProjectRunway” just shows how happy she is to try to be exceptionally bitchy.

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    • alula_auburn

      Thanks, Tim, for saying Hernan was such an asshole. In your inimitably gracious way.

    • PastryGoddess

      A pair of jeans? WTF you cracked out idiot!

      • Stubenville

        With random crap dangling to your knees. [eyeroll]

    • Stubenville

      Bye Hernan.

      • oldscrumby

        One less person to subtitle.

        • sundaynightaddict

          There was a point last night where they subtitled something Angela said and I couldn’t believe it. Not only does she not have an accent but she wasn’t speaking so quietly that you couldn’t understand exactly what she was saying. I know this happens all the time on PR, but I’m glad I still find it a little shocking.

          • oldscrumby

            They’re subtitling everyone and it actually feels kind of insulting for both them and us as viewers. Hernan might need it a bit, even though he makes a conscious effort to speak clearly, he probably has the thickest accent. But there’s no reason that Angela or Fade needs it anymore than the other English speakers do. Angela is from India, she’s almost guaranteed to have grown up speaking English the same way the guy from New Zealand did, and yet they don’t feel the need to subtitle his non-American accent. As for Fade, maybe we’ve all just gotten dumber since Uli who had the exact same accent and level of fluency yet never needed subtitles unless she was whispering.

    • housefulofboys

      “One…or more…of you will be out.” Oh, please, pretty pretty please?

      • GTrain

        oh to see the look on their faces…

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Even with Angela’s weaker design Team Straws should have totally won.

      • Adrianna Grężak

        I also didn’t think her design brought down the team as much as Heidi said so. I thought the paper texture she ended up with was nice

    • dash1211

      I just keep telling myself that these “winning” designs must look different in person because they certainly
      look like crap on my TV.

      • LovelyIdio

        Okay. I specifically went to TLo to make sure I wasn’t losing it, and the winning designs were…kinda terrible. I don’t mind the ideas, but they look sort of like trash. I haven’t watched PR in a while…I probably won’t be tuning in next week, either.

    • Frank_821

      I have to say that Sandhya may have had the obligatory meltdown but she was way more gracious and supportive than the other 2. Bravo to her for championing the other 2 during their critique.

      I am surprised she didn’t keep her circle skirt. She could have incorporated the gold/bronze elements just to the top without sacrificing that cute skirt. oh well she probably was too tired to deal with it

      • FibonacciSequins

        I don’t understand why none of them tried basketweaving the film strips, for a little variety. I guess Hernan’s nagging wore them out.

        • Gatto Nero

          I think it was also a time issue.

    • Stubenville

      I’m shocked at the win. [eyeroll]

    • mom2ajs5

      Oh for fuck’s sake.

    • Qitkat

      I am stunned alright! :(

    • Frank_821

      eh! I really thought Christine should have won it. hers was the most fun

    • TDSE

      Ugh Fetch. Thanks for outlining the obvious reasons you won that challenge.

    • marlie

      Seriously, shut the hell up, Amanda.

      • MilaXX

        times 1million

        • Fordzo a.k.a. Fancy Mukluks

          To the hundredth power!!

    • alula_auburn

      Is Amanda wearing green bra straps under her jumpsuit? (I can only actually listen to her say the same thing so many times.)

    • MilaXX

      Chile, shut up! Amanda will be a repeat of last years returnee. She’ll win a few unwarranted challenges and go home in the top 5

      • Stubenville

        Yup, it’s like they just keep recycling the same scripts.

      • Slade Thunderdragon

        Amen

      • Fordzo a.k.a. Fancy Mukluks

        Fingers crossed!

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Wow, Amanda’s dress was just slightly more polished than Pepper’s in season 1. What a joke!

      • Stubenville

        And Sosa’s string and washer monstrosity.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        That’s right — that’s who I was thinking of. Though the washer bikini is also a good comparison.

    • Stubenville

      Didn’t expect that.

    • GTrain

      Carrie’s whining REALLY pissed them off. Very immature

      • Cheryl

        And so gracious in defeat.

        • PastryGoddess

          ahem your sarcasm’s showing

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          One needs to know the definition of “gracious” to be gracious.

    • PastryGoddess

      They are all on crack

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      ANNND….she’s STILL an amazing asshole!

    • TDSE

      HAHAHAHAHAHA YES, YES GIRL! GO OUT IN A BLAZE OF BITCHINESS!!!!!!

      • Slade Thunderdragon

        I know I kind of loved it. haha.

      • MilaXX

        I kinda want to follow her on twitter to see how much crap talk she tweets about the show.

        • FibonacciSequins

          Ha, I had the same thought.

      • Gatto Nero

        I don’t blame her for being angry. She could have handled it with more maturity, but she didn’t deserve to go home, and that was clear to everyone in the room.

    • PastryGoddess

      Good for Tim on calling out Hernan’s bullshit

    • Frank_821

      Well let’s be fair, carrie, if Sandhya did what she wanted, she still wouldn’t have been kicked off

      • Gatto Nero

        She wouldn’t, but the team’s collection would have been less cohesive, which was their main concern (rightly or wrongly) after Tim’s critique. Sandhya had nothing to lose, but Carrie and Hernan did.
        It all blew up anyway.

        • Frank_821

          I should say i meant if Sandhya didn’t have immunity, she probably would have fought harder for her original design. That ugly mess only came about becomes she yielded too much to those two

          • Gatto Nero

            Oh, I see. It would have been interesting to see what they all would have come up with individually if they hadn’t thrown the collection together in the last four hours.

    • alula_auburn

      I love how obviously annoyed Tim is with this. No save for you, Carrie!

    • ddfrog

      OOOh mean. No need to end your TV career like that.
      BTW, I recall during the first episode that Zac Posen commented that Nina and Heidi had an allergic reaction to her.

    • MacFrannie

      Ugh. Can’t stand Carrie. Good riddance. Too bad they didn’t get rid of Hernan too.

    • housefulofboys

      That was a pretty cool sendoff from Tim. She deserved nothing more after that childish display.

    • oldscrumby

      Odds on Carrie being brought back for more drama a few episodes down the line?

      • Stubenville

        Only if someone slips on a banana peel or storms off next week.

        • oldscrumby

          This is a noticeably more stable group than the last few seasons. I guess all the near violence of the last one left a mark on the producers. Fragile Chinese girl might even make it to an actual off-ing because her co-contestants haven’t thrown her to the wolves.

          • gitchygitchymama

            near violence? did i miss something?

            • Munchkn

              Ken. Need I say more?

            • Lisa_Co

              And Sandro,too. 2 aggressive crazies in 1 season is too much!

            • kerryev

              yet Ken was in the running for Amanda’s spot.

        • Fordzo a.k.a. Fancy Mukluks

          When I saw Sandhya asking for a sit-down with Tim, I thought she was going to tell him she was leaving and I was so mad. No one better pull that crap this season.

    • UsedtobeEP

      I am so disappointed because I loved what she did last week. Unfortunate.

    • Stubenville

      Kathy Griffin and live TV. This could get funny pretty fast.

    • CT14

      Boo! I wanted them both to go!

    • PastryGoddess

      smooches..going to bed. I really do have to get up in the morning

    • SewingSiren

      What a load of shit. There wasn’t a 1/4″ difference between the top and the bottom group. All of the top looked alike all of the bottom looked alike . The straw dress should have won and Angela’s dress did not bring that group down. The rainbow bright group should have been in the bottom, and I can’t say which should have gone home because they all looked alike too.

      • Laylalola

        It’s so stupid — it’s entirely conceivable that both the best and worst of the night are in the same group. In which case neither would win or be our as deserved.

        • Qitkat

          That is the real hazard of team challenges. I tend to think the risk is part of the judges’ dilemma (and maybe even their delight) and I must say it possibly has never been handled more poorly than in tonight’s decision.

          • Gatto Nero

            The viewers and designers hate it and think it’s unfair, but the producers live for this stuff. It’s precisely the injustice of the team challenges that turns them on.

            • Qitkat

              YUP!

    • BuffaloBarbara

      I loved the blaming it on Tim’s critique. Like it’s his fault that you don’t know the difference between “cohesive” and “identical.” Now, what I wanted after it instead of the interview show, is Tim explaining how he would have done it and turned it into a win. Add a common element? Do it through styling? Inquiring minds want to know. That should be the aftershow: Professor Tim’s Redemption Workshop. At the end of the season, the best redemption gets the TG save (they get a runway walkoff with the judges) and gets to compete as the fourth at Fashion Week, since they’ve been sending four every season, anyway.

      As unconventional materials go, this was not their most interesting choice — things found in a movie theater. They should have done a riff on the car theme, found a theater that was about to be torn down, and made them use the seating, carpets, light fixtures and cords — with the demand that it look like glamorous movie clothes in the end. But then, they might not have had time for all that exciting bickering. (And if it’s a team challenge, maybe the teams should have had time to confer before collecting their materials. Or did they? I had a phone call at the beginning and missed a little.)

      • Qitkat

        This is an awesome idea! The viewers I think would really respond to such a thoughtful concept. Which means it could not happen. I think all of us are getting really tired of the reality show construct which becomes more and more inexplicable or defendable every season. This is such an excellent way for Tim to use his save. Stop The Insanity!

        As for the team challenge, they had 15 minutes to gather their materials which were on the stage and in the lobby, only what they could carry. At some point Tim yells out, have you conferred with your teammates? Which was total BS, as there was no time, there was all the frantic grabbing going on.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          I think it would be fun — just a little half hour production, with Tim spending intense time with the auf-ee and the losing garment, either repairing what was wrong or using it as inspiration for a new one. The garment has to stay put after X amount of time so early aufs don’t have an advantage over later ones, but the ultimate result would be that each auf’d designer would be in the running for the fourth spot. So yeah… it’ll never happen!

          Does sound like BS. Time to come up with a concept before grabbing everything would have made things better. Do they know that it’s not really all that entertaining to watch people look at a pile of crap and say, “Huh — we don’t really have any idea what we’re doing”?

          • Qitkat

            You know, over the years, stretching way back, I’m thinking of the Los Angeles season when so many things went off the rails, there were really long conversations here, back before the blog had the format it does today, when us kittens offered up ideas to “fix” the show. There were so many amazing suggestions, that came up, it was almost like some of us viewers would make better producers than those who hold those jobs in the reality show world. Maybe you remember those times.

            Why oh why can’t there be any shows that are more like what we as viewers want to see? Faux drama has overtaken real talent and creativity and attention to the details we really wish could be included. Have you ever seen a show out of the UK called, I think, The Great British Sewing Bee? It’s a bit sweet at times, but all in all, it is a lot of fun to watch, and the critiques are genuine, the drama is not manufactured, the talent is there. There’s real sewing and design going on. It’s still a reality show, but in a different vein.

            • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ Alicia

              I love Great British Sewing Bee! The judges really know their stuff, and in the two seasons so far, experience and craftsmanship has really paid off.

            • Fordzo a.k.a. Fancy Mukluks

              Where can I watch that?

            • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ Alicia

              I watch it on the BBC – ask @Qitkat:disqus where she gets it in the US! One of the judges, who is EXTREMELY HANDSOME is a Savile Row tailor, and the other has been teaching sewing for 40 years or something.

            • Fordzo a.k.a. Fancy Mukluks

              I just watched series 1 – I loved it! Ann was adorable.

      • Gatto Nero

        All great ideas. And as far as I know, the teams did not have time to confer before the mad rush for materials, though Tim did shout into the fray, “Are you talking to your team members??”

        • sundaynightaddict

          I thought it was hilarious that they all yelled back yes, just to appease daddy, even though they weren’t.

    • sundaynightaddict

      Only two episodes in and the judging is already making me apoplectic. I CAN’T EVEN with Amanda’s dress… so much WTF-ery that I’m just sitting here in disbelief.

      Also, it felt sort of awkward watching Carrie not be a graceful loser, but I was still cheering her on for telling the judges she thought they were making the wrong decision lol

      I don’t think they needed to be so brutal with Sandyha during and after judging. I didn’t think they were “picking on her” in the workroom, but they definitely were at judging.

      • Qitkat

        I’m with you, I honestly thought Amanda’s garment, I refuse to call it a dress, would send her home. Do the judges not remember outfits from the past made of strings and washers that landed designers in the bottom? Hers was just that bad.

        As for Carrie, I was in her camp, she was a sore loser, but she defended her garment, which they used to admire. I think her mistake was in being so negative to the judges themselves, they had to save face and auf her instead of the guy.

        There seems to be a cruel streak in the judges this season that is unwarranted, especially so early in the game. I’m also wondering if there are so many contestants not originally from the US this season, if they really are more unfamiliar with the format of the show.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          I think the problem with Carrie’s defense was that she wasn’t defending the garment on the runway, but giving excuses about the garment that she didn’t send down.

          • Qitkat

            Yeah, on reflection, you’re right. By that point, I was paying less and less attention, as the direction the judging had taken was making me stabby.

      • Gatto Nero

        Amanda’s winning look reminded me of Emilio Sosa’s strings-and-washers disaster from a few seasons ago, when he sent his model out nearly naked. This was not the most inventive or successful use of the materials. Amanda herself said it was “rough.” The judges’ crack smoking continues.
        I have concluded that team challenges and the immunity benefit are both bogus and should be eliminated altogether. (Angela was saved only by the strength of her team members’ designs. And Sandhya was saved only by her prior win.) Carrie didn’t deserve to go home; I was looking forward to seeing more of her work. And as much as I dislike sore losers, I’m glad she expressed herself before packing up to go.

        • pdquick

          She basically just did Emilio’s outfit over muslin. Not even that original.

    • BlackbeardsWyfe

      Tantrums! Tears! Tantrums!………………Not very fond of how the producers have limited the “materials” by setting out “pre-selected” materials. I think these challenges are much more fun when they get some cash and go to a corner bodega………

    • DollyMadisonWI

      Throwing Angela under the bus was a new low by Hernan and Carrie (are those their names?). [ Maybe we should invent a new phrase that is applicable to PR - like throwing someone under the Brother.] That is taking a page out of the Under-the-Gunn booklet when Anya and Mondo said Natalie should’ve been eliminated. It’s shameful.

      I wish someone in the lounge would tell people like Carrie to STFU because it’s a game show and those are the rules and she should’ve thought of that before acting like an asshole. BTW, I wonder when Tim is going to have his “that is utter bullshit” moment.

      • bringbackbeatles

        I thought the treatment of Sandhya was ridiculous, but typical. If people don’t agree with the winner then suddenly she is ostracised and villainized by some of her co-contestants. Like Carrie saying if she hadn’t had immunity she would have been out and it’s not fair and whines. You know if she had the immunity it would have been a totally different viewpoint. If you want to stay in, then work hard, get the immunity and stay. Don’t fault Sandhya because the judges picked her design over yours. I felt like she went out like a toddler having a tantrum. I can’t tell you how many times I heard her whine about how she didn’t deserve this horrible decision and blame it on everyone but herself. And, I love how Hernan and Carrie responded to the who should go home instead of you question. They kept saying that it shouldn’t be either of them, but didn’t have the balls to just come out and say Sandhya. Then, Carrie has to get in another dig before she goes. Sandhya may have blown the outfit this week, but atleast she remained poised and showed her strength of character. So, she still won in my book.

      • SewingSiren

        I don’t think Herman and Carrie coved themselves in glory, but I think the judges flat out ask him who should go home if not him, or who had the worst dress, something to that nature. So he answered and gets blasted by the judges for picking someone not on the chopping block, which is exactly what he was ask.

    • DollyMadisonWI

      I skipped straight to the runway portion of the show because at this point, I don’t really care about anyone’s personalities. But I had to rewind to listen to Heidi’s description of the challenge because it just seemed really, really vague based on the output. (I know – what’s new.) My confusion was magnified when I saw the two teams chosen and even more magnified when hearing the critiques.

      • In_Stitches

        That’s my plan for the season. Watch Big Brother until 10, then immediately switch over for the runway and judgment. I was completely baffled by the ‘top’ team’s placement. The bottom team on the other hand had earned their placement.

    • pdquick

      I thought the skirt Sandhya was making wasn’t bad, minus the numbers and letters, which didn’t really work. If the collection wasn’t cohesive, Hernán and Carrie should have taken elements from her design and incorporated them into theirs, because they were the ones at risk of going home. Instead, they succeeded in pulling Sandhya into a copycat design that crashed and burned for all of them. For a moment it appeared the judges were going to get that Hernán was the culprit and spare Carrie, which would have been the right thing to do. But she’d been getting the winner edit through the whole show, which of course, was really masquerading as the loser edit.

      • Leslie Streeter

        Carrie’s entitlement was…impressive.

    • http://www.bertkeeter.com Bert Keeter

      BSBSBSBSBSBSBS………..AND MORE BS!

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      Two teams of equally messy, odd looks are singled out. For no apparent reason, one is praised to the hilt and the other is criticized like like worthless losers and a designer with potential is sent home. Meanwhile, the worst designer is saved by being put in the strongest team.

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    • Anique Ashraf

      Sandhya FTW

    • Tanya Wade

      If I had taken a drink every time someone said “Cohehesive!,” I would have emptied the entire Napa Valley by now. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means…..Seriously, sad to see Fäde and Hawt Kiwi lose because of the bitter tears of Angela Von Kant.

      • Leslie Streeter

        Girlyfriend…Angela needs some meds, don’t she?

        • Tanya Wade

          As long as she shares with the class, lady!

        • sundaynightaddict

          It is SO uncomfortable to watch her.

    • MilaXX

      Okay finally caught the episode in it’s entirety. The purple team should have won with the iridescent cd dress as winner. I call BS on Heidi’s singling out Angela’s look.

    • Anique Ashraf

      It was kind of hilarious how they had all the contestants from different countries (in this case, Fade, Angela and Carrie) literally use almost the same script back to back in their segments. It all went, “I was born in (insert country here) and came/escaped to the US when I was (insert age/life event) and now FASHION!”

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      I don’t recall ever being so mad at my TV as I was watching this episode unfold. And I watched every episode of ‘Lost’.

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    • Mothra

      I have a couple beefs with the show already. 1. They have this fancy schmancy lounge with a very high end samsung fridge which presumably spits out water in many forms, including seltzer. Yet why are they always drinking from disposable plastic water bottles? Even if they’re recycling these water bottles, why aren’t they using actual glasses, or water bottles that can be washed? So they could get that fridge to be in every episode but they couldn’t get samsung to spring for a damn dishwasher? In addition, the top of the fridge is covered with red solo cups. Seriously? They couldn’t find a dish and cup and tumbler sponsor?

      2. How is it that the producers and their staff are able to sneak into the apartments at night and no one notices? That’s just creepy.

      • somebody blonde

        I believe that was probably fake surprise that we were seeing. The same fake surprise that we saw when they found out that it was an unconventional materials challenge, because how could they not have noticed they had those crates under their seats?

        • pdquick

          That scene was probably shot over several hours. Tables full of crap were moved in, crates were given, etc.

    • CanIbeFrank

      I got a weird vibe when Tim was telling his version of what happened during his mentoring sessions, to the judges when they looked at the garments close up. Now, I’m not necessarily saying that the losing team should have started all over and ditched what they had been doing after talking with Tim, but Tim, who SHOULD be the mature one here, comes across as whiny and defensive more often than not, “Hey, it wasn’t mean who told them to go down this route–you should have seen the mess before. I just guided them and now look what happened!”