T LOunge

Posted on January 10, 2014

Kittens, welcome to the very first T LOunge of 2014!

 

Crimson Lounge, Hotel Sax Chicago

 

We’re in a luxurious spy caper kind of mood and this place fits the bill.

The only news we have in our lives is the only news we’re going to have for the foreseeable future: OUR BOOK OUR BOOK OUR BOOK. We are just a little over 3 weeks away from launch, darlings. We’re nervous and excited. Mostly excited. Okay, no. Mostly nervous. Actually, it changes from moment to moment.

Anyway, if you really want all the updates, you should check out our book page, where you can find out which magazines gave the book a shoutout this week, what some of the early reviews are saying, what we did when we first held a copy of it in our hands, and why we wrote a book on this topic instead of a book on style, with a quote from the book’s introduction. Starting next week, we’ll be dropping daily quotes from the book, just to tease you a little, as well as announce our first contest. Which means you REALLY should be checking out our book page, amirite?

So how were your holidays, kittens? Ours were… well, the best ever, actually. We were in a celebratory mood, what with getting married and writing a book and all, so we went all out on the holidays in a way we haven’t for many years. We made a lot of memories this year. We also bought a ton of shit for each other, but that’s because we have poor impulse control.

We understand there was some sort of Project Runway finale last night, yes? And we trust the final decision was suitably controversial and spawned much rage? Elucidate for us, if you will.

 

 

 

[Photo Credit: Trey Radcliff via Stuck in Customs]

    • Jess

      Korto: robbed again. Discuss. (I loved Korto’s collection, but, actually, accept that the judges could see the weaknesses in the structured pieces better than I could. So I was okay with Seth Aaron’s win. His clothes were gorgeous even if the accessories were ridiculous.)

      • Chartreusite

        Severely robbed. Strangely enough, even though Elena was my favorite all season, I could understand why she lost. I feel like Korto’s collection was lovely and cohesive, with maybe one really weakly designed garment. Seth Aaron’s…he had a couple wow pieces, but the other stuff was bland or really weirdly planned out (that scream print or whatever) And his styling was very odd.

        • ShaoLinKitten

          I loved the styling… the models were all wearing Seth Aaron glasses. I thought it was a send up of “my heritage.” The scarf print dress was killah.

          • marlie

            I LOVED the styling for his collection.

            • @Biting Panda

              If the good people at the Miss Universe Pageant struggle, how ever can mere mortal designers succeed?

          • MilaXX

            I laughed at all his models looking like him.

            • AnneElliot

              Me too! Even the hair. And all of Elena’s models looked just like her. It must be a runway thing, April’s models always had their hair styled just like hers.

        • MilaXX

          Elena basically remade her decoy collection with circles. The fact that she only has 5 days instead of 2 months really showed in her final designs.

          • DollyMadisonWI

            The comment about her making the same silhouette and the same sleeve is so true. And how is it that she’s still making another version of her decoy collection 3+ years later? She is a one-way monkey.

        • DollyMadisonWI

          Gosh, I just have to disagree. She wasn’t robbed because she didn’t present the best collection. The two jumpsuits and the yellow/white skirt ensemble were really lovely and I really liked the scarf top with the lavender skirt. But the two white outfits were near disasters. The peplum on the white dress was weirdly placed and the structure of the white top to the pantsuit was just awful. SA’s on the other hand had multiple wows (the red coat, the white dress, the scarf dress, the black dress). I personally loved the yellow pantsuit for its impeccable structure and the matador-inspired jacket. It may not be to everyone’s taste (just like the mesh garment) but it wasn’t boring. Viva la Seth Aaron!

      • alyce1213

        I don’t agree that she was robbed this time. Her collection had a few great pieces but faltered on the rest.

        • Eric Stott

          I agree- most of her pieces were just clothes – nice pieces but nothing remarkable.

        • Kent Roby

          I completely agree. Her structured parts (football shoulder pads, Peplums from hell) were not flattering for anyone, and much of the rest looked off-the-rack.

      • Inspector_Gidget

        I would have been fine with either Korto or Seth Aaron, though I do feel this collection wasn’t her strongest. (Go figure, 7 looks in 4 days. It’s a wonder they were sewed and not glued.) Love her personally, but she didn’t really show anything she hasn’t done before.
        I think Seth Aaron showed more restraint than he has in the past, which was cool to see. And say what you will about his aesthetic, you never get Marshall’s Rack stuff, you get a runway show. After the last few seasons of the regular show, that’s quite refreshing.
        I’m just glad Elena came in third. I was soooo dreading a win for her. Hey look, more jackets with bright-colored neoprene cut outs!

      • stayl

        Some people expected Korto would lose regardless of her collection because she was on PR during the Bravo years. Let’s not forget the court battle between the Weinsteins and Bravo over PR. In addition to this, Georgina Chapman is married to one of the Weinsteins.

        I liked Korto’s collection but I also liked Seth Aaron’s. The entire finale seemed a bit boring, with the forced inspiration and unusual venue. If the judges are demanding innovation Korto will always lose. I love her clothing but it doesn’t come across as new.

        • kimmeister

          Didn’t you love how Alyssa Milano’s obviously prerecorded spiel about the new Marchesa perfume was even awkwardly spliced into the finale at the UN?

          • Sarah

            SO unsubtle.

          • Inspector_Gidget

            Hahah I did laugh out loud at that. NO attempt was made to hide that it was dubbed later. Like, in the staff bathroom or something.

        • MoHub

          I think that’s the crux of the matter. Korto designs for now; Seth Aaron designs for tomorrow. In a design competition, moving to the next point is what wins.

        • butterflysunita

          Daniel from Bravo won the first all-stars.

          • Ramon Figueroa

            The first all-stars was just Bravo contestants. Actually, that one also seemed a fix. I think everyone wanted really badly to give it to Daniel after passing him over Chloe. I thought Korto and even Chris March were better than Daniel in that all-stars. But after Uli was so totally robbed in that last all-stars, I think a Bravo contestant could come up with the 21st version of the cinched waist, and they still would give it to a Lifetime contestant. How this show has come down.

      • @Biting Panda

        I wanted Korto to win, just because of how much I love her. But yes, I also really liked SA’s collection too. He is always fun.

        • demidaemon

          Agreed. I was rooting for Korto, but PRAS has been consistent in not letting Bravolebrities win. However, I think she definitely has new clientele in Gayle King, which would be a major coup for her business, and she would only be a step away from OPRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

          Of all the PRAS finale’s, I actually like this one the best. It actually felt like a true discussion of who deserved to win, rather than a predetermined outcome, and it really felt like it was neck and neck between Korto and SA. I think the show aspect may have won it for him in the end, even though Korto would probably use the prizes better and build a better business than SA has from his previous win.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Getting an in with Gayle King, and hence closer to Oprah would be huge for Korto, and I hope that King follows through on buying from Korto.
            I’m curious to see how SA does with the prize for this win. The prize for this season seems to have more potential to help the winner make some headway in the industry.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        I would not say robbed, but Georgina was so dead set against her and her comments about Korto’s collection were way too harsh. I had no idea she was such a sour woman. Beautiful, yes, but sour. She was still pregnant at this time? Maybe it was that?

        • bringbackbeatles

          I did agree with her, though. The tailored pieces were weaker. That maxi dress was unbelievably gorgeous, though. I love Korto, but this just wasn’t her best work. The collection definitely had amazing pieces, but it was inconsistent. I loved Elana’s decoy collection in her season. I actually thought it was the best of the bunch, but this collection just wasn’t anywhere near her best. I agreed that her “bottoms” are much weaker than her tops. There were. Execution problems, of course, with only four days, and she needed to edit. I laughed when she made the comment about Seth Aaron not being able to edit when she clearly can’t. There were some great pieces, but it wasn’t enough. Seth Aaron was the clear winner in my eyes and his collection was fabulous. I did not like the yellow jumpsuit though, although I did love the yellow jacket with it.

          And, is it just me, or do they suck at shooting runways on this show?

          • DinaSews

            It’s not just you. My biggest complaint about this show is the ‘artsy’ filming of the runways. Just show me the clothes. Why they can’t shoot from above where the light glare would be diminished is beyond me.

            It seemed that Korto moved away from her style that she portrayed during her season which would have been a home run here. This finale was made for her and she blew it.

      • DollyMadisonWI

        The great thing about this finale was that it was anyone’s to win. Whoever had the best collection was going to win and they did – SA’s was miles ahead of the other two. Korto wasn’t robbed because she didn’t have the best collection. Her two all-white outfits were disasters I thought. The two jumpsuits were really fantastic but they were only two out of seven. I got energy and life from SA’s collection but with Korto’s I got sunny but dreary. She never seems to be truly passionate about her work and it shows in her output.

      • butterflysunita

        I don’t know who deserved to win because I haven’t watched PR in a long time. But it seems harsh for Korto to be the first runner-up three times (once on her own season, twice on all-stars). And to lose this time to someone who’s already won.

      • Inspector_Gidget

        You know, as much as everyone loves to claim that this show isn’t a sewing competition, at this point it really kind of is. The timelines have become so insanely short. Not to take anything away from SA– who I think deserved the win– but his main asset seems to be that he’s hell on wheels with a sewing machine. He may go kookie on designs, but he always finishes his looks. He made some pretty lousy stuff all season, but he never went home because someone else always put forth a raggedy-ass mess that looked like it was made in less than a day (which, of course, they all were.)

        Had they been given weeks for this collection instead of days, I think Korto’s would have looked dramatically different. I’m not so sure SA’s would. Does that make him a better designer, or a better tailor?

        • DollyMadisonWI

          It makes him a better contestant for this particular competition.

          • Inspector_Gidget

            True enough!

    • ShaoLinKitten

      With four days and the inspiration “your heritage,” the PRAS finale show took place at the UN. Each designer had an awkward meeting with the ambassador from their country. This was much more meaningful for Korto and Elena than it was for Seth Aaron, who his apparently of Spanish descent. Seth Aaron beat out Korto and Elena for the win. Honestly, I thought he deserved it though I would have been OK with any of them winning. I loved his collection, even the weird one with the netting. It was polished, cohesive, and edgy. Elena’s coats were kick ass, but everything was very similar in her collection. It was Korto’s season to win, but she fumbled it in the end zone. There were some great looks, but also some real head scratchers (I particularly hated the one with the white peplum). But I suspect I am not in the majority on this one.

      • stayl

        Gayle King was a guest judge. That’s a “head scratcher” too.

        • ShaoLinKitten

          I thought that was odd too. I was like, “Elie Tahari is here but GAYLE KING is the judge?! WTF?” And she made the dreaded “I want one of those dresses right now” comment. That one needs to be banned. Not all runway shows need to be comprised 100% of RTW looks.

          • Imasewsure

            I kind of like the “I’ll take one” comments but only if they actually follow through and actually order the outfit made… it’s great press for the designer anyway (unless it’s Heidi… and then you may want to “question your taste level”)

            • ShaoLinKitten

              It just seems like something they say as praise, not sincere. But I will say this: I do want Seth Aaron’s scarf dress. I wish I could afford it.

          • Inspector_Gidget

            Well, think about it. ELLE and Tresemme and Banana Republic have left the building. In a season sponsored by QVC and Mary Kay, the judging choice makes a sad kind of sense.

            • KateShouldBeWorking

              For real: QVC and Mary Kay?

            • MilaXX

              yep, part of the prize is a contract with QVC. Cheesy, but a definite money maker.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

          I was confused by the digital nameplates showing “Viktor” and “Jeffrey” in some of the audience shots. Did they make the next three designers do dummy collections in order to fool the UN audience??? It’s the only explanation I can think of.

          • helene

            I wondered that too. your explanation makes sense. and contributes to the overall shoddiness of the runway filming/editing. How many times did they cut away just before the model turned so we could see the back?

      • kimmeister

        The judges were raving on her use of that one print, but the want it was draped for the jumpsuit, it made the model look like she had on a weird pointy diaper!

      • lesmaha

        I agree with your analysis. I did find the whole UN thing pretty contrived. Seth Aaron’s collection was pretty stunning.

        • Eric Stott

          I got the feeling that Seth Aaron had a little trouble expressing his “Spanish Heritage” – I mean, a Matador coat?

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Of the three finalists Seth Aaron’s connection to his heritage seemed the faintest-not surprising, given that both Korto and Elena are much more recent immigrants to the U.S., and feel more strongly about their home countries. Seth Aaron appeared to go more for strong colors that struck him as referencing Spain.

      • MilaXX

        I loved that white one with the peplum.

      • Nicole

        Agreed (except I hated the netting garment). I liked several of Korto’s pieces, especially the first dress and the jumpsuit. I am curious about which garment Christopher sewed though – I think his light hand likely elevated whichever piece he helped with.

    • DeTrop

      I watched PRAS last night and in all honesty, cannot fault the judges decision. Seth Aaron really put on a cohesive, stylish and wearable show. His designs were not ‘over-the-top’ and I found them to be the most beautiful. His styling was anything but beautiful, however. His models were wearing those oversized glasses that he has affected for himself and their hair and shoes were meh. The clothes won the challenge for him.

      Korto’s designs were beautiful and I thought she styled her models beautifully. I loved her jumpsuit in particular. She’s a class act and I hope she goes on to big success.

      Elena’s designs were rather futuristic imo. I found them clean and neat but overall too much of the same silhouette.

      • Imasewsure

        I thought it was funny that all three of the designers made their models look exactly like them… even Korto gave them the braided hair she is wearing and of course put them in outfits she would look great in. SA’s glasses cracked me up although Nina I think thought they were awful (they are, but I still think they are funny)!!
        Korto or SA made sense… I was fine with the final three anyway

      • Sabin

        The one reason I kind of liked the glasses on SA’s model was because I find how he laughs at himself appealing, and his styling for the models felt like a piece of that. I find him refreshing personally, and do tend to like his aesthetic.

        • http://phantomminuet.blogspot.com/ MinAgain

          Same here. He seems like a very talented person who takes his own hype with a grain of salt. And I did love the color story in his collection.

          • AnneElliot

            I agree, I’ve always found him charming. There was one episode this time around where he barely made it through and ran off the runway — I think it was the avant-garde challenge. I loved that. Plus, he made Tim Gunn jump on a trampoline, which will make me love him forever.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        I felt Elena’s looks were kind of shabby. The cutouts didn’t quite match on either side of the zippers. That particular wool fabric had a worn look to it that did not match the leather and neoprene very well. Sure it was a contrast, but not really a good one. And of course she did the same ol’ same ol’ silhouettes, which contributes to the feeling of old and worn out looks. She hasn’t grown at all, and needs to do so as badly as Melissa Fleis.

        • Sarah

          The unmatchy cutouts made my eyes tired. Nay.

      • Eric Stott

        Elena is going to have some career problems if she continues to break down and weep at the very SIGHT of a print.

        • guest2visits

          That was as assy as Christopher continuing to whine after Seth Aaron explained to him in a way a child could understand about production costs (last week). Both times I looked around me for something to hit them with.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            IF they don’t understand that kind of basic then Chris and Elena are going to have difficulty making a go of careers in design.

            • Eric Stott

              Both of them seem stuck with the mental outlook of designers with small shops selling individually hand made garments- no concept of how commercial fashion works.

            • guest2visits

              NO LIE. Sometimes various designers make me wonder if they’re ‘ready’, or have the temperament for it.
              Elena flares up into full blown hysteria at the bat of an eye. At least Viktor was kind with sound advice from his mom. That was nice. Seth Aaron tried to advise Christopher too. I don’t know if it actually worked.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              One thing that I took away after watching Joe Zee’s series on Sundance, “All on The Line”, was that there are designers who seriously are not ready to succeed commercially,and there are a variety of reasons-temperament, the ability to accept constructive criticism, an inability to delegate and/or to effectively handle problem employees among those reasons. Elena does at this point seem to be someone who is still learning how to handle setbacks and challenges without having the vapors.

            • DollyMadisonWI

              I wish the third season of All on the Line would come to Netflix. I really want to see Korto’s episode after having read about it here. I’ve searched the net for the full eps to no avail.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              It was worth seeing-I really felt that I learned about the business from watching this series. Some designers are so likable you really want to see them succeed, and to gently knock some common sense into them at the same time.

    • @Biting Panda

      I’m so excited for y’all. I can’t wait to buy it and have it signed, because, surely you’re coming to the ATL.

      My holidays were so great. I took Dec 24 – Jan 3 off to be with my family. We didn’t even kill each other. Having four kids, that’s really saying something.

      PR was usual bullshit, with wrong person coming in second place. Again.

      I’m headed to Mississippi for a funeral. : (
      Extended family, but I’m going for the moral support of my best cousins and to help ease them into the Dead Patent Club. It sucks, but we do have a hand shake.

      Best weekend wishes, Kittens. Come find me on Twitter, I’m horribly followerless.

      • Sarah

        Sorry about the funeral. Nice of you to go. And I would follow you, but I hate the Tweeterverse. I follow you spiritually instead :)

        • @Biting Panda

          I’m not sure how I’m going to feel about it. Mostly though, I really enjoy social media, but my facebook is too full of family and coworkers for it to be much fun. Y’all know how I hate to hold back. : )

          • Sarah

            You make an excellent point, re: FB. I literally don’t know who I am on there. Some weird super-young person who is trying to seem upstanding for my vast collection of religious right-leaning relatives and former work associates. (I won’t be friends with ppl I work with currently.) Maybe tweeter is not bad if I can be anonymous. Sort of…

            • demidaemon

              I basically just use Facebook to play Scrabble, SongPop, and Everything, check on a couple of shows I really like (Longmire and Rupaul’s Drag Race), and follow some of my favorite queens from past seasons of RPDR. I rarely comment anymore, and generally only look once or twice a week. I basically keep it around so that one day–when I publish a book (hopefully)–I can use it for publicity, which is why I’ll probably join Twitter someday as well. When I do, I’ll definitely follow you! :)

            • @Biting Panda

              Do you play MoviePop? It’s my new crack addiction.

            • demidaemon

              Nope. :(

          • marlie

            I certainly follow/am followed by a lot of friends on Twitter, but they happen to be the ones who I feel like I don’t have to censor/filter myself around. It’s nice, sometimes. ;)

            Edited for clarity.

            • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

              What’s your twitter name?

            • marlie

              @msatch. Yours?

            • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

              @foodycatalicia:disqus – I am predictable!

          • formerlyAnon

            I’ll follow you! Though I dunno if you’ll know it’s me . “formerlyAnon” is one of my least-self-edited online personas and I don’t want to make it stupidly easy to tie it to any of my others. It’s a weird decision tree. My FB is strictly limited to people I know and like in real life, or once did and have rediscovered via FB – which excludes many, including relatives. The ones who despise my politics or other life choices are only those I’ve maintained strong emotional ties with and if we choose not to read most of each others’ posts so be it.) I have a twitter that started out “the real me” but has moved to be a kind of fakey “professional persona” and at this point I’m deciding if I should have two separate twitters or just abandon the whole thing.

            • demidaemon

              Ha! I decided recently not to give two fucks about what I post on Facebook. It was a very liberating decision, though it drives my mother crazy.

            • KinoEye

              Same here, though luckily my mom is about as cool as they come and shares my views on the things that usually get me deleted from (conservative) people’s friend lists — aka, politics and other social issues. I’ve kinda tamped that down, though. My facebook is as private as I can make it, but I don’t want anyone from the area where I work to see what I post. They’re not too friendly towards liberals in East Texas, much less liberal newspaper editors ;-)

            • @Biting Panda

              Smiles! Check your messages.

            • formerlyAnon

              Trickily enough, the formerlyAnon on Twitter isn’t me. I’m only on there under a version of my actual name (hence my Twitter becoming a place I rarely post, except in safe-for-coworkers-and-bosses mode. Just follow.)

          • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

            Twitter is great fun. Partly because my mother is not on it, although she’s reasonably relaxed as a facebook friend!

          • decormaven

            Bless all who go all into the social media universe. There are privacy issues that I’m just not comfortable with- and by that, I mean marketing, metrics kind of stuff. It’s got a great potential – for good, and not so good. But for those who choose it, soldier on!

      • marlie

        I’m sorry for your loss. It’s still difficult, even if you’re going to support someone else. xoxo

        • @Biting Panda

          Xoxo

      • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

        Hope the funeral is everything your family needs it to be!

      • KinoEye

        Oh dear. I’m sorry to hear it. Being a 24-year-old who has been to entirely too many funerals for her age, I feel your pain. I’m a partial member of the Dead Parents Club, so I’m glad to hear you’re offering moral support to the new inductees. Although I never learned the special handshake. Sending good vibes to Mississippi!

    • kimmeister

      Seth Aaron’s collection was my choice for the win, so I was naturally pleased with the result. I did think they were going to jump all over him for the yellow jumpsuit, but it didn’t even elicit a mention (at least not in the edit we saw).

      I had a blast skiing on Xmas day, got tons of stuff done during my time off from work (including getting a new roof on my house!), and enjoyed a lovely Pride & Prejudice viewing party on Jan 1 (the Colin Firth version, por supuesto!).

      • Lena Abu-Ali

        I wish they spent more time on the critiques, it’s such a pivotal part in the episode yet it often gets brushed over.

      • Sarah

        We had a P&P party on the first at my library. That is very weird! And sort of awesome!

        • kimmeister

          The same version? Last year was my inaugural event, I’m hoping to keep this up every year, with at least one P&P “virgin” each time if I can.

          • Sarah

            No, Keira Knightly (which it turns out people hate). And Sense & Sensibility on the day before, but the Emma Thompson, which people love, of course. I was surprised at all the KK hateration, because I didn’t know about it. Of course, I would prefer Colin Firth, too, but I just didn’t realize that folks seem to not warm up to her.

            • kimmeister

              My virgin had only seen the KK version, but she did appreciate this one (good thing, or else I’d be forced to drop kick her out of my life!). J’adore the S&S with Emma Thompson! Seeing that movie is what single-handedly made me realize that, as an adult, I love Jane Austen, even though I failed to adequately appreciate her during high school English class.

            • Sarah

              You and Me Both, sister. That movie rocks. I still say “UPON MY HONOR” with my pal sometimes, if the situation warrants it.

            • kimmeister

              I think I cry every single time Elinor erupts hysterically into tears toward the end. I haven’t watched it in a few years, I should test to see if it still works . . .

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I have long lost count of how many times I’ve seen S&S with Emma Thompson-I just adore that movie, and love that Alan Rickman got to be a romantic hero-that final scene with Brandon joyously throwing the coins is so wonderful.

            • AnneElliot

              I love it too — I’ll always love Hugh Grant as Edward — I love him with the little sister. Of course ET’s brilliant screenplay makes the whole movie. I also love Harriet Walter as Fanny, she is deliciously evil.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I agree with you on all counts-brilliant screenplay, superb direction by Ang Lee, as well. I love the scene when Lucy Steele makes her disastrous confession to Fanny, and Fanny twists her nose-but then, I’m just evil like that!
              BTW-Your screenname is one of my two favorite Austen characters!

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I’m with you on all counts-that was a briliant screenplay by ET. That scene when Lucy Steele confesses to Fanny and gets her nose twisted is hysterical-beautifully played by both actresses!

            • formerlyAnon

              I’ve never understood how anyone could concentrate on Hugh Grant with Alan Rickman standing there.

            • DollyMadisonWI

              I can never pass by S&S when it’s on. The sheer brilliance of everyone involved grabs me every time. Emma Thompson is one of my acting heroes and the fact that she adapted the screenplay so beautifully on top of the acting – she’s a goddess.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I never, ever tire of S&S, and yes, Emma is a goddess

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I had mixed feelings about the KK version of P&P, but found that I did like it, and I don’t hate KK. My favorite version is, unsurprisingly, the Colin Firth P&P-love, love that for taking the time to tell the story so completely.
              As for KK, one of my friends said that she found KK too modern to do a period role well.

            • Sarah

              I just barely have gotten over mixing her up with Natalie Portman, so I hadn’t formed much of an opinion, I guess. The calls we had prior to the event –“Oh, Keira Knightly?!? I HATE that version!” made it pretty clear that folks don’t dig her, though.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I know that the director wanted to do a versiion of P&P that didn’t have the “masterpiece theater” feel, but he did take risks in bringing a more contemporary feel to Elizabeth Bennett, et al. For directors and screenwriters who want to do that, they ought to look at how Amy Heckerling took “Emma” and moved it to SoCal in a modern setting-that was brilliant.Granted, not everyone is capable of that, but it beats severely mucking with true classics.

            • Carrps

              Good point, bitchy. My other fav Austen is the Ciaran Hinds “Persuasion.” Just lovely.

            • AnneElliot

              Be still, my heart!! He pierces my soul. That’s my favorite JA adaptation.

            • formerlyAnon

              That “Persuasion” is my very favorite Austen movie adaptation ever. (Yes, Colin Firth is special, but I have never loved P&P.) Persuasion is so full of yearning, which I personally find way sexier than showing off or posturing. Ciaran Hinds has lovely bones in his face which slay me, and I do think that it’s a very good cast overall.

            • rainwood1

              You’re so right about the yearning. The looks Anne and Captain Wentworth give each other are absolutely swoon-worthy.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              Oh, I love that vrersion of “Persuasion”, and Ciaran Hinds as Captain Wentworth-did my heart go pittypat when he and Anne kissed!

            • Sarah

              I just ended up watching Clueless because I was explaining to my fiancé that the Emma with Gwyneth P. was a Jane Austen movie (we were scrolling Netflix choices) and he asked what it was about. I told him it was Clueless, which he did know, and he was surprised to find that out. Of course, then I had to watch. My BFF and Alicia Silverstone are dead ringers for one another, so I always get a kick out of imagining her in the role, kneesocks and all. Fun!

            • rainwood1

              Agreed. Go contemporary or go classic with some lovely and funny additions like Emma Thompson did with S & S. And the actor playing Darcy was just not dashing enough. Colin Firth is hard to follow, but almost anyone would have better than the actor actually cast.

            • kimmeister

              I don’t hate that version and thought KK did fine. It’s just less witty, Bingley was played as a total doofus, and Wickham was relegated to a cameo when he is such a huge part of the story. Also the ” love love love” speech by Darcy is mega cheesy.

            • Sarah

              Yeah, I don’t mind it either, but I guess I just love period films (clothes!) That’s why I was surprised to find out people have Opinions about it.

            • minerrva

              his stuttering and shyness seemed to be a payoff of JA’s initial setup: which is that Darcy ain’t all that when it comes to emotional openness and ye olde social graces.

            • Carrps

              Eh, I think she’s just a very “surface” actress. All tics and techniques and no soul. Elizabeth Bennett also needs a certain level of intelligence that KK just doesn’t have. Her P&P bored me.

            • demidaemon

              I have an anthology of all the Jane Austen novels, which is on my “to read eventually” list. I haven’t seen any of the movies, though. I’m a very bad Austenite.

            • formerlyAnon

              Oh, I hope they work for you when you get to them. If they do they’re such a joy.

            • minerrva

              Oh, but Matthew MacFadyen is SO lovely as Mr. Darcy. He’s a great, versatile actor. I saw him on the stage in London in a comedic role, and he was HILARIOUS. The guy has serious talent. I also like that he was able to find more layers to Mr. Darcy than Colin Firth did (sorry, CF had about one facial expression, one stance, and one tone of voice the entire movie–however beautiful a man he is!)

            • minerrva

              also, Tom Hollander as Mr. Collins in the contemporary (Joe Wright version/AKA KK version) was sheer genius. SO much better than the (sorry) oily, fawning Mr. Collins of the BBC version. And yes, it’s controversial, but overall I liked the casting choice of KK. From what I can tell, Wright was really trying to show that Elizabeth Bennett is NOT the perfect Jane Austen surrogate that we often like to wish she was. Wright showed her with her faults, too, and I thought it opened up some really great new territory into the P&P fantasy. *Caveat*: Joe Wright has a thing for Keira Knightley (not a “thing” thing, but some kind of artistic thing). He has directed her in multiple movies, and judging from the director’s commentary, he just doesn’t have a lot of critical distance when it comes to her performances. I think he could push her more. OMMV, obviously :)

      • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

        There was a documentary on the BBC around Christmas recreating the Netherfield Ball – they got various experts in to do costuming, hair, makeup, teach the dances, make a supper and had music from one of the Austen family music manuscript books. It was lovely. All Austen fans should watch it at some point if they can!

    • Isabel

      Korto has a GoFundMe site. She was very gracious – see her Facebook account.

    • Saturnine

      There’ll never be enough time in the world to visit all these lounges.–but this is the next best thing! How do you find these amazing places?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        Yes, this lounge is especially fabulous! I love it!

      • alyce1213

        Google?

      • decormaven

        Pinterest.

    • Sarah

      OH, gorgeous lounge! Happy happy, gentlemen uncles and Kittens. I thought Korto was more creative and inspired the whole time, and she made the more attractive and wearable collection, but I did see how there were construction issues in her collection. I thought SA’s yellow jumpsuit was hiddy, and felt that his “Spanish” inspiration was a stretch.
      My holidays were tough, and I’m glad they are over. I got to go to a botanical garden light show with my baby niece, and she was cute and suitably infanty-excited, so that was lovely, at least. I didn’t get a job I wanted real bad, and am now realizing that although my current job is most unsatisfactory, I’m lucky to have it bla bla and I will be stuck there indefinitely. AND I’ve started a semester which was supposed to be my final but I couldn’t find one class I need so it’s an exercise in doing the same thing I always do for no foreseeable goal :(
      But, in positive news, I Won the Internet yesterday for calling it like it is, so I can’t complain that much!

      • kimmeister

        How are the 4 kitties doing?

        • Sarah

          The baby blackness gave us a fright and stayed out for a day and a half until this afternoon, I guess for spite since we wouldn’t let her out during the Arctic Vortex or whatever. Didn’t want her to freeze to death, but she decided to paint meow-town red and scare us into thinking she was lost or hurt. She deigned to return unhurt today, though, and is snoozing comfy-like with Daddy now, so I forgive her. Everyone else is good. They are back to two, industrial-sized potties, so that drama is over.

          • kimmeister

            Yay on both counts! Last week Chai got out for like 30 minutes when it was probably 60 degrees, and even then I was nearly freaking out, I can only imagine how you felt! Fortunately he was only over at the next door neighbor’s house, sniffing his tossed out Xmas tree.

            • Sarah

              Tree sniffing is irresistible! Yeah, I had a bad night worrying about her being stuck up a tree or something. She does go out, but usually just during the day so we can enjoy her fuzzytoes at night. She has other designs, clearly. Sheesh. And yes, they don’t go far. T’Challa was under the house, cozy and dry, no doubt.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              Our Genghis has been sadly perching near his favorite window, waiting patiently for his humans to fix the outside so it’s good sitting in window weather…alas…

            • Sarah

              Haha, T’Challa is SERIOUS about her outside-time. It gives her the right to lord it over the other three, that don’t get to go out, since they were grown when we moved to an outside-friendly location. I don’t think it’s right to send grown and even senior cats out into the world when they don’t have the skills, but Titi is very proud of her property rights, and will venture in cold, rain, and even snow if it means she is Queen of Cats.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              Genghis is very pleased that, despite an all day rain that the temps rose enough for him to enjoy some quality window time this evening!

            • Carrps

              Ha, my boy doxie just loves this time of year. He pulls me from discarded Christmas tree to discarded Christmas tree all over the neighborhood. It’s funny to think back to when he had his first post-Christmas with us after his rescue, and he was terrified of (and barked at) the first tree he saw lying sadly on the curb.

          • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

            Dreadful animal – they do love to horrify their parents.

      • formerlyAnon

        You DID win the Internet yesterday. If only that came with an appropriate cash prize.

        Sorry about the job. Once you’re out from under the school requirements you’ll have more time and energy to do whatever seems right to improve things on that front. Also: NO NO. you’re NOT “doing the same thing [you] always do for no foreseeable goal”!!!!! At the end of this semester you have only one more class to take to be done – and that’ll seem easy-peasy in comparison. And if it doesn’t make financial sense to only take one class, you can take something that will be a resume-building skill or let you do a project that will enhance your portfolio, or just that you’ve always wanted to take. And then YOU’LL BE DONE WITH THE DEGREE.

        • Sarah

          OH, thank you. Of course you’re right. It’s just quite disheartening. I just had this plan: get better paying job, graduate, get married. But, there’s no reason why things have to be done in that particular order, and life is nothing if not unpredictable. I will stick with my belief that something is always better on the horizon, and hope for the best, but I just wanted to walk this May so bad. The worst is, I don’t know who WILL offer the class, or when, but it won’t be my school, so it leaves things up in the air. Irritating.

          • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

            That is irritating. My university did something similar when I was an undergrad and I ended up having to take a class I had no interest in just so I could graduate. Hope you find a better solution than that!

            • Sarah

              ‘Tis a class I can’t graduate without, and I’m an online student. They only offer it on campus (which is too far to commute with my full time job) and I never could have gotten it from them – esp. because the prof for it is on sabbatical this year. I knew this, but my advisor assured me that I could get the class – no problem! – at the university by my house. Surprise: they don’t have it. They won’t have it this summer, either. I have systematically gone through all universities with online courses in art history in the US, too, and nobody has it this semester. It’s just a choice of early, high, or Northern Renaissance art, and I am confounded that it is so hard to find. Especially since I have a fine arts education already, and if there was an equivalency test or something, I could nail it. BUT NO, they will make me take it, even though I may have to wait a year or more. AARGH.

            • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

              Frustrating. Good luck!

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              AARGH, indeed-I can’t imagine how frustrated you must be. Good luck,and consider yourself hugged.

          • http://www.GiftedCollector.com/ The Gifted Collector

            We proudly watched our daughter “walk” but wondered why her diploma didn’t come in the mail. For a while I nagged her about calling her school to see where it was.Turned out she had one little class to complete but didn’t want to ask us for more $$ (it’s the most expensive school in our area) and was eager to get on with her career. So she saved up the tuition, took the class in summer school for six weeks before she went to work in the morning and only fessed up once the diploma was in her hands. The point being that you should see if your school will let you walk anyway.

            • formerlyAnon

              Obviously, you did a great job with your girl!

            • http://www.GiftedCollector.com/ The Gifted Collector

              Thank you. I think she’s pretty great.

              She was a Sports Information major at USC with Will Ferrell.It took her five years to finish (all but that one P.E. class) because she wanted to take every class the major offered. Then it took her another several years to get that diploma. Ironically, neither of them went on to careers in that field.

    • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

      I was putting my children to bed during the runway show, and only saw the collections standing still on the runway back at judging. I wonder if one collection (or all?) looked better in motion? Korto’s long yellow dress?

      • Sarah

        Korto’s long dress moved beautifully, as did her other softer pieces. Her constructed ones, like the judges pointed out, were pretty stiff. SA’s stuff was stiff-ish too, except for the full-skirted black dress and the scarf piece. His, however, were tailored to perfection, so the stiffness of his textiles was not so much of a problem but a fact of their nature. I still would rather see Korto’s clothes on someone’s back, but oh well.

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          I wasn’t surprised that Seth Aaron took the win, as he really has a good feel for doing a runway show that is going to grab the judges, plus he has always shown such good tailoring skills.HIs take on a lace pantsuit hurt my eyes-it’s granny panties with fishnet, fercryingoutloud. Korto I think could design for a wider audience, and does more wearable clothes. I suspect that QVC would have been happy had she won.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

            Some of his QVC pieces are already available for sale on their site. They hardly look like Seth Aaron designed them to me.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I just checked out those pieces on QVC. With the exception of the sleeveless dress, they look very toned down for Seth Aaron.

            • NMMagpie

              Agreed. They are pretty bland. :(

          • Sarah

            Yeah, the “lace” pantsuit was weird. I am sorry, but his idea that fishnet translated as “Spanish lace” was off.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              that was a misstep from SA, for me. The white dress didn’t wow me, either, but his other pieces were strong, and offset the pantsuit.

          • GillianHolroyd

            The fishnet suit… I just read an interview where he said that originally the fishnet top was being paired with a leather skirt. When the scarf challenge was announced he decided to make a top (as well as the dress so that the dress would not be the only patterned piece in his collection) and pair that with the skirt. That left him needing to finish off the fishnet top and he made a pair of pants in 20 minutes.

            • DuBey2

              Thanks for the background. That makes sense.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              Whatever I personally think of the suit, Seth Aaron usually demonstrated good problem-solving skills on PR, as well as his sewing skills. I think I would have liked the fishnet top with the leather skirt-that would have been a good look.

      • alyce1213

        Korto’s yellow dress glided down the runway, absolutely beautiful, gorgeous. Unfortunately, it was her best piece — a good way to open but nothing after equaled it.

        • DuBey2

          I can’t get that dress out of my mind. Especially the way it moved and the way it was fitted but NOT tight around the cutout in the back.
          Was angered that they showed even LESS of the collection/backs total shots of the looks head -to-toe than usual. This is why I record it each week, so I can play the runway over and over.

        • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

          Thanks.

    • altalinda

      I didn’t watch PR, so have nothing to contribute there.
      I am getting excited about your book. (Here’s another push for a signing in Philly; I’m planning my signing outfit as we speak.) I pre-ordered a copy for my sister-in-law, and am thinking of as many others to bestow it on as possible.

      • Isabel

        Penguin website hasn’t put up your book tour dates yet. Drat. I moved to a smaller city and might have to drive 2 hours to see you, if you go to Dallas.

    • Lena Abu-Ali

      Alas, the holidays are over. A joyous time was had by all in my family. Time to get back to school!

      As far as PRAS goes, I would’ve been fine with either Korto or Seth Aaron for the win. I think what ultimately led the judges to pick Seth was his polish and consistency. Although Korto’s collection was beautiful, it seemed a little less cohesive.

      Elena got tripped up on her very narrow point of view. Nothing she showed surprised me.

      Is anyone planning on watching Under the Gunn? I’m a little tired out after the PR finale, but I”ll probably begrudgingly watch it online.

      • kimmeister

        I’m planning to watch it! Over the break I did read one of his books and found some parts a little goofy, but I still enjoyed it. I’m about 3/4 way through a Nina Garcia book now.

        • Lena Abu-Ali

          I suppose the format will be somewhat similar to PR, although I’m unsure what roles Anya and Mondo will have.
          A Nina Garcia book? I’m not sure what to expect from that.

          • kimmeister

            It’s called “The One Hundred,” referring to pieces that every stylish woman should have. They’re not all related to attire, there are other things ranging from red lipstick to champagne to mad money, all in alphabetical order. I’m currently in the ‘S’ section. I can’t say that I agree with everything (my face shape looks like crap in aviator sunglasses), but some of the historical footnotes (like the origin of the word “cardigan”) are very interesting.

            • Call me Bee

              That sounds interesting. I’ll have to check it out. (And I look dreadful in red lipstick…so I know I’ll disagree on some things as well.)

            • MilaXX

              I am of the mind that every woman can wear red lipstick. It’s all a matter of finding one’s shade. My advice is find whatever is your go to lipstick shade & adjust from there. If you are a nude /natural lipstick wearer, then go for a brown red. I also find that red lipstick looks better on a finished face. This if for the day your’e wearing blush/mascara/eyeshadow, etc… Try a few brands from CVS or Rite-Aid (I forget which one allows makeup returns) You may surprise yourself.

            • kimmeister

              Rite Aid allows returns.

            • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

              I completely agree. There is a red lip for everyone! Sometimes people just think it doesn’t suit them because they aren’t used to their face in a bold lip.

            • MilaXX

              yep, there are brown reds, orange reds, pink toned reds, blue based red and yellow based reds. Not to mention everything from a glossy to a matte finish. It’s like finding the perfect pair of jeans, you have to shop around.

            • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

              That sounds interesting!

          • Sarah

            I think it’s somewhat similar to “The Voice” in the mentor department. But I am definitely gonna watch it.

      • DuBey2

        1. I liked a few of each of the 3 designers’ collections, so I was ready for whoever to win. I like Seth A. as a person; he just seems nice, so I was happy he won.

        2. I’m recording the 1st “Under the Gunn” and we’ll se how it goes. I hope Mondo will be a judge every week, but I know that probably won’t happen- just saw him on the preview of the season opener so I’m hopeful. My ideal judges panel would be Mondo, Elle Tahari, and that men’s designer (forgot his name) we all liked in last season of PR when he did a guest spot and made intelligent comments.

        • Frank_821

          I was under the understanding that Mondo, Anya and Nick will be mentors to 3 different teams and ultimately it will get whittled down to 1 winning designer. Of course i can see Nick doing well in a mentor role. He is an experienced teacher. I think Anya could fill that role as well. She’s got good insights. I think Mondo could do the job as long as it’s not the dour Mondo of recent times

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

            He’s not dour recently. He was always like that. Rewatch the earlier episodes of his season. Even TLo called him out back then on his high school “no one understands me” attitude.

            • DuBey2

              Yes, I hope Mondo can be a good mentor by channeling his incredible ability with prints and what I found to be more fashion-forward than so many. Perhaps he will relax when not competing and develop an engaging personality. One of the reasons I loved him on his season was how he befriended ?Michael (I think that was his name) who all the other designers hated and dissed. But Mondo showed that he could change his mind about a person once he worked with him and “got” him.
              I also think Anya might be an interesting mentor. I never had the hate for her that some do, and some of her clothes were certainly beautiful.
              Wish they’d get Uli on as a judge or mentor or somewhat. She knew how to put together a runway collection, IMO. I’ll never forget her “winter white” looks in her finale (that wasn’t the actual name, its just what I called it)

            • Eric Stott

              That was Michael Costello- they had one great exchange over a late dinner, sitting apart in the corner:
              Mondo- “This is like dinner with my family”
              Michael- “Pasta?”
              Mondo- “No…Awkward”

          • SouthernGirlRena

            Hasn’t that show already been done on another channel. I forget the name but it had Jessica Simpson. It was interesting. I liked it as much as PR. I’m sure I’ll watch Under the Gunn but it will be more because there is nothing else more interesting on on Thursday nights than because I am excited about the show.

            • kimmeister

              That would be Fashion Star!

      • marlie

        I’ll be watching!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        I’ll watch for Tim and Nick. The show seems like a fashion designer version of The Voice.

        • Lisa_Co

          I plan to watch at least 1 episode of Under the Gunn. However, the show I’m really excited to see is The Fashion Fund about the CFDA/VoguevFashion fund competition. I mean Anna Wintour as one of the judges? How can I resist. I expect it to be a kind of drawn out “Seamless” (Doug Keeve’s 2005 documentary on the competition) and far more serious than PR. I sincerely hope our dear uncles will follow it (live tweet, review, anything). It premieres on Jan. 22 at 10pm on the Ovation channel. Just know you will have to shield yourself from spoilers since the competition (& winner) happened this past November. Still the process and personalities should be interesting.

      • Eric Stott

        I did get to like Elena much more as a person, but she’s got “Niche Designer” practically stamped on her forehead.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I’ll probably check out the first couple of episodes. I still have lots of affection for Tim, and am mildly curious about seeing Nick, Mondo and Anya as mentors. I think I’ll pass on the PRAS reunion, though

      • MilaXX

        I wasn’t going to watch Tim’s show, but the preview have me interested. I’m not committing but I will watch at least one ep before finally deciding.

      • MoHub

        I will probably watch Under the Gunn for Uncle Nick, but otherwise, I don’t have much hope. It appears to be The Voice for fashion, with the mentors competing in addition to the actual contestants.

      • DollyMadisonWI

        It’s going to be 90 minutes. Yikes!

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Alas, they lost my interest a couple weeks ago. Everything was so…so…not interesting. It didn’t seem like anyone was working up to their potential.

      On general principle, though, I’m glad Seth Aaron won.

      • Eric Stott

        I didn’t hate his winning, though he was so lackluster this season (did he ever win a challenge?) that it wasn’t so much him winning as it was him outlasting the others who lost.

        And no houndstooth plaid?

        • demidaemon

          He won the RTW challenge, somehow.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          No one truly understands our plaid obsession.

          • Eric Stott

            It is our secret bond..

    • Imasewsure

      I think I will have a “luxurious spy caper” weekend too… or a drink at least

      • Sarah

        You and me both! Drinks, that is. And if “ghettofabulous” counts as luxury, then I’ve got that too.

        • formerlyAnon

          If it brings you joy, ghettofabulous absolutely counts.

          The two most luxurious moments of my day – and I get to have them nearly every single day! – are the first cup of coffee/stove top “espresso” with real half & half and the slide of my bare feet against my worn-thinner-and-softer-than-anything cotton sheets at night.

          I aspire, some day, to the theater-and-museum-and-food tour of the world, or even the eat-at-good-restaurants-almost-any-time-you-want-to level of luxury, but it’s all good for now.

          • Sarah

            Sounds lovely (I mean home, but tour-of-the-world is good too). And I consider my four cats luxurious, as well as my cups of tea, with real half- and-half, and my cheeses-that-I-can’t-afford, with crackers. All while watching TV on my reclining couch with built-in cupholder for beers. So yeah, I have plenty of joy :)

    • piperkitty

      I really didn’t care who won last night. I did care that the outfit Ms. Milano wore in the opening credits was eye searingly ugly. Why would someone who hosts a fashion show wear that?

      • Lena Abu-Ali

        She’s made some very unfortunate wardrobe choices the entire season.

      • kimmeister

        Even my husband piped up about those ghastly shoulder poofs.

      • marlie

        The one she wore to the final runway show was HIDDY too.

      • DuBey2

        She makes short girls everywhere shudder with her choices.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        Last season, Joanna’s catchphrase was “Hideous… or fabulous?”
        I think she’d look at Alyssa and say, “Hideous… or- wait, no, just hideous.”

    • homofascist

      Wow! A T.Lo lounge I have actually been to…

      • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

        Is it as amazing as it looks? It looks beautiful!

        • homofascist

          It is an amazing space, but way more ‘scene’ than I am used to at my local neighborhood gay bars. Lots of roped of VIP areas and douchebros and women in ridiculous high heels. Good drinks though, and one of the hottest bartenders I have ever seen in my life. So, you know, I made the most of it! :)

          • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

            … I may be too old for it!

    • songstarliner

      The gorgeous Georgina Chapman’s hair shirt.

    • Mary Carpenter

      Oh I want to go to there…

    • Frank_821

      I was non plus with the win. I preferred Korto’s but am not upset SA won. There was little controversy unlike last year. Ultimately none of the collections really wowed me.

      I thought Gayle King was a waste for a judge for the finale. You already had Zac. Why bother with her. Her critiques weren’t bad but they weren’t that great to warrant a 5th judge

    • alyce1213

      I think “heritage” was a shaky inspiration point — heritages can be mixed, they can be distant, they can be less than inspirational. Oddly, the connection to Seth Aaron’s heritage was the most distant, the others being recent immigrants, and he won. Elena’s collection was exactly what you’d expect (she is the girl she’s designing for), Korto’s had a great start abut lost momentum, and Seth Aaron came in with the winning collection. I liked it very much — the colors screamed Spain and the workmanship was excellent. Four days?? Unbelievable. Also, the eyeglasses on his models made me smile.

      • Sarah

        Elena is the girl, all right. I mean, everyone did style their models like themselves, but she REALLY did. I wondered why that collection said “Ukraine” but I guess I don’t know anything about how it is there other than vague ideas about their ethnic dress, which don’t jibe with Elena’s collection.

      • marlie

        And strangely enough, I didn’t see anything to tell me anything about Elena’s “culture.” It told me all about HER, but there was nothing that referenced Ukraine, as far as I could tell.

        • Eric Stott

          I think there was some talk of her patterns being similar to folk designs, such as the ones on Ukrainian Easter eggs. That would be pushing it.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Elena’s collection definitely said “Elena” loud and clear, Ukrainian not so much to me. The judges describing her patterns as being similar to folk designs sounds like a stretch to me. For me the problem with her collection was that the pants/skirts did look unfinished-not surprising, given the short time frame.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

            If she was trying to mimic pysanky then she would use prints and not be so weepingly AFRAID of prints! There is no way she had that in mind. None at all. (Big pysanky fan here, sorry.)

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              The folk arts of the Ukraine-eastern Europe, for that matter can be so strikingly beautiful -I love the use of color.

      • Call me Bee

        I couldn’t get past his Gary Oldmann in The Fifth Element hairdo, though.

        • alyce1213

          Oh, his hair has been seriously bugging me the whole season. But I like him as a person and as a designer.

        • AnneElliot

          Yes!!! Now I see it. I do love that movie though. It’s so over-the-top and bizarre, but I love it.

          • Eric Stott

            At least he’s held back on the mascara lately.

    • Frank_821

      I know some people did not think SA’s collection reflected spanish culture but I thought a lot of the looks had a spanish attitude to them-at least an attitude I’ve seen in spanish films

      • alyce1213

        It’s a slippery slope trying to represent a culture in fashion without going all costumey. Seth Aaron avoided that pitfall and did it with color.

        • @Biting Panda

          If the good people of the Miss Universe Pageant struggle, how could mere mortals manage? : )

          • DuBey2

            Ahhhh, the MIss Universe costumes! How I wish for a show of JUST their national costumes, with TLo’s comments. But, like, monthly. Once/year is not enough.

      • DuBey2

        Maybe SA could’ve borrowed Viktor’s fans and added some black lace to them for that quintessential Spanish touch. (talking to you, Ralph Lauren)

        • DollyMadisonWI

          That made me laugh out loud. What a great idea!

    • Rand Ortega

      Yay Book! Will there be Book Signings? On the Left Coast? Please let us BK’s & PUF’s know where to turn up in droves.
      I bet you’re dying to know what some of us look like! ; )

      • Call me Bee

        Or on the Third Coast. We can all meet at this week’s lounge!

      • Carrps

        Yah, me, too!

    • marlie

      I’m so excited for you guys; I can’t wait to get the book!!

      As for PRAS, Out of the final three, I was sort of OK with SA’s win. I was rooting for Korto, but I can see why the judges went with his collection; it was a touch more interesting, to me. But it really could have gone either way. Elena was definitely in the 3rd place spot.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      I’m happy for Seth Aaron, and definitely happier with this PRAS season’s outcome than with last season’s. Also, Alyssa Milano can stay on as PRAS host as far as I am concerned. Her stylist must go, though.

      Did anyone see the article where he said he was moving to L.A. and was going to have Viktor and Josh Christensen work with him on his line? I had to look up which Josh that was… It’s Mormon Josh that was all giggly in that stiltwalking season. Really? That Josh? He did not strike me as that skilled, but ok, Seth.

      • CommentsByKatie

        Stiltwalking season! I laughed out loud. Such a great descriptor.

      • DollyMadisonWI

        Can you post a link to the article?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

          I did but it hasn’t been approved. Just search these words: seth aaron nbcnews

    • DuBey2

      LOVED: SA’s Red coat and his use of the black netting (would’ve loved a cute short short under it)jumpsuit & the dress w/different prints on back fr/front
      Korto’s Yellow print gown (opening look) and yellow jumpsuit that moved/flowed like a skirt
      Elena’s cropped top with the sheer panel and the scarf print barely visible under it. Also 1 of her dresses that flowed well.

      Disliked how cheaply the episode seemed to be done:
      ?? UN for a Runway with just UN people and former PR contestants in the audience?(Obviously Mercedes wants nothing to do with them – although it may be just timing since MB fashion shows are not year round, much to Lifetime’s dismay)
      “Instead of sending you to Spain. Liberia or the Ukraine, we will let you go to the local UN bldg. Aren’t you thrilled?”
      ?? Only $2,000 total for a final collection and only 4 days?

      • altalinda

        On the plus side, they avoided jet lag by going to the UN Building.

      • GillianHolroyd

        I thought they did better in 4 days than most finalists do in 4 weeks. Or 6 weeks, whatever. Obviously some of the finishing suffered but I liked a higher percentage of the final garments than I’ve liked in previous finale collections.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

          That says something about the talent level, and not a good one regarding the people in newer seasons.

    • NMMagpie

      Can’t really quibble with the PRAS outcome, especially since Seth Aaron did such a great job with coat porn. That white dress was all kinds of awesome! BUUUUTTT… it did bug me that Korto came in second AGAIN.

      As to that, methinks Georgina is a teensy weensy bit threatened by Korto. That was some serious cattiness that erupted form her at judging. If I were her, I’d be smart and offer Korto a job.

      Elena’s collection I did not care for and I though Alyssa’s comment about the lower half of the looks getting less attention was spot-on.

      • demidaemon

        And if Korto is smart she won’t accept it, beacsue Marchesa + Korto = No Bueno.

        • NMMagpie

          I have to agree. It would just give my bitter little heart some massive degree of satisfaction to have it happen.

    • MilaXX

      All Stars is an even bigger crock of ca-ca than the regular show has become so I was surprised Seth Aaron won. I did like his collection, but I also like Korto’s as well. I just want Korto to stop allowing PR to pull away Charlie Brown’s football on her.

      • demidaemon

        yes, I do hope she has learned her lesson this time. The first time around she had the bad luck of competing against Leanne. 2nd time: She was screwed from the getgo. Daniel V. was anointed and that was that. This was her best shot and she seriously could have won it this time, but she is into serious fool me once, fool me twice territory now.

      • DollyMadisonWI

        She did it to herself this time. Her collection had some serious issues, especially the structured pieces.

    • carolynmo

      It’s my birthday, and it’s been a great day! I’m a little tipsy and I should put down the phone. Love you, Uncles!

      • Sarah

        Happy b-day! Glad it was good!

      • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

        Happy Birthday!

    • In_Stitches

      Last night I felt indignant, clearly Korto had been robbed. Looking at the photos today, I’m questioning that judgement. Korto’s two long dresses were great, but that’s about it, and both were basics carried by interesting prints (not that I think to win Project Runway, a ‘design’ competition, you need to make something with so many interesting details and sculpture and pleats and and and…). Seth Aaron played with shape, color, fabrics. It was all drastically different, but it did feel like a collection (kind of an S&M romance vibe). He managed so say a lot in a quick, succinct way and the results were polished.

      Elena made some great unique pieces. Her work is immediately identifiable and that’s a great stamp to have. She just needs to figure out how to make it flattering. The circular cut-outs didn’t really play with the body in an intriguing way. Had they, her work would have been more impressive.

      • Eric Stott

        Korto’s dresses could be adapted to look good on a wide range of women, Seth aaron’s a little less so but still possible. Elena’s outfits will only look good on someone with Elena’s build – and I think she must keep thin through pure nervous tension.

      • DollyMadisonWI

        Elena’s looks are immediately identifiable because it’s all we’ve seen from her. Her collection this week was only a slight variation on the theme she had going in her FW collection. I don’t think it’s working in her favor. It looks like she can only do one thing. Seeing the pics on Rate the Runway shows the exact same silhouette garment after garment.

    • Call me Bee

      Gee this Lounge is beautiful! And I even know where it is. I’ll have to drop in.

      Super excited about the book, Dear Uncles. It’s on my Amazon list. My Christmas was good. Really quiet. And we’ve been stuck in the house for a sold week due to the polar vortex, and I’ve gotten a lot of napping, sewing, reading and TV watching done.

      I really wanted Elena to win, or Korto. SA has already won his season–did he spend all his money already? SA’s styling was laughable and I really wasn’t impressed by his collection. Or any of them, really. I guess I’m burned out on PR (something I never thought I’d say….) But I am weary of all the designers hawking all of the sponsor’s stuff. (Did anyone catch Elena when she asked for a bottle of water. She didn’t say, “Can I get a bottle of water”, she said “Can I get a (sponsor’s) water?” ) Oh brother….
      But I will give Tim Gunn’s show a chance.

    • Sobaika

      Hello everyone! I rarely make it to lounges but I’m having a depressed/restful night in, just me and a bottle of wine. I haven’t kept up with PRAS at all but sad to hear that Korto didn’t win – always liked her.

      Hope everyone’s holidays were fab.

      • formerlyAnon

        Hope it turned more restful than depressed. I always try to stop into the Lounges even if I haven’t watched for the BKs. Real life does sometimes get in the way, which I suppose is healthier than having my life revolve around a blog, but . . . .

      • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

        A restful night with a bottle of wine is a good thing! Hope you feel refreshed.

        • Sobaika

          Very much so! And tonight’s Golden Globes are basically my Super Bowl so this weekend is turning out not so bad at all :)

    • AdamBR

      I only saw the finale collection because, well, I stopped caring about Project Runway after season five (essentially, the post-Bravo years).

      I thought both Korto’s and SA’s collections were good—definitely above and beyond what I was expecting for the few days they got—but I don’t agree with Korto being robbed. Seth Aaron pulled out a better collection that had more cohesion and more vision. Plus, it made me want to see more.

      Korto’s—bless her, this is the third time she came in second (S5, the one when she lost to Daniel V., and AS)—unfortunately felt a lot of the same.

      I really hope she says no the next time they try to get her in another PR-related gig.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I would think that Korto is finished with PR after this. I know that she’s started a crowdfunding thing.

        • Eric Stott

          Maybe they should ask her to judge

      • 1964edithgrove

        Sorry, your response comes across as condescending.

    • frumpybiscuits

      I have worked my little butt off all this week and relaxing with a bottle of wine while reading TLo is just heaven. Thank you, Uncles!
      Question for the Uncles or any of the BKs who got an early book for preview – Is the book OK in Kindle format? Or are there a ton of pictures and a print version is going to be superior? I know it’s more of an advice book – but wondered. Have already pre-ordered on Amazon.
      Thoughts? I hate looking at pictures in gray scale.

      • PastryGoddess

        I read it on my Ipad and it looked great, pictures and all

    • formerlyAnon

      Late to the party and have pretty much abandoned PRAS, but gotta say: Your holidays sound wonderful and nobody could deserve it more.

    • guest2visits

      This feels so much more special than Joe’s. I might try something new. I bet I could get something made with kiwis or pomegranate here….
      I am still out of control over last weeks PR shenanigans. I felt the last minute design-off between Chris and Korto very unfair, as well as the win for Seth’s Beetlejuice cartoon frock. Both were bottom looks for me. If not for the 2nd chance save, Korto’s drab dress would have been out. Her 2nd look was pretty great, Chris’s definitely was not. Still, I’m glad Korto was one of the finalists, and I really liked 4 of her designs; beautiful fabric, beautiful shades of yellow, great construction. The 2 white outfits and the yellow skirt/top set however – not nearly as fresh and cohesive as the rest. Odd peplum and fins.
      Elena’s line up was really pleasing on some level; the calming colors and the silhouette that was repeated on all the pieces is actually very attractive, but it was also not enough. The brief time line to create their collections really hurt her the most – as I knew it would, since Elena’s style usually means lots of pieces in her designs. These kind of looks needed at least 4 days to think about, and a lot more to execute well. The construction had some lapses, things needed tweeking. And she had a motor on that kept churning out too much of the same, she couldn’t get off that track. I still think she did a lot for 4 days. I liked the last 3 looks best.
      First, I DISPISED Seth’s giant empty frames all season. I LOVED them on the models though. I liked the styling for all the collections. While I can appreciate Seth’s strong color blocking capabilities and dramatic flare, and I think he can rip out meticulously constructed work in his sleep…. and I actually love a lot of his designs…. and thought he should have easily taken a few wins during this season but didn’t….I still have a very hard time awarding a second win to a PREVIOUS WINNER. They should never have mixed the winners with those still trying to cash in. Most don’t care, I know. But it just feels wrong. Like the whole show was contrived for the upset or novelty of a double winner (“for the first time ever in PR history….”).
      Oh well. About his collection – I am warming up to it. I think the pieces are made beautifully – except I don’t like the way the front of the purely editorial fishnet suit comes together. But then I don’t really like the fishnet suit.
      The textured materials Seth uses carry a lot of the structure and drama, all on their own. The pretty white shift would be nothing without the heft and nobby texture of the leather and the same for the yolk & belt for the black dress, and the thick red coat. I like most everything actually except the fishnet and the back of the scarf-dress with it’s odd flappy leather panel. The top w/skirt was pretty but not very special, either. I would say I liked the black dress, white dress and red coat best. The line up was cohesive, visually dramatic and had appeal. I can see it as the winning collection; I just don’t feel especially invested in it. Rushing out 7 looks in 4 days also deflated expectations. I would like to see a full collection with the time it takes to make it…. especially from the former contestants that are trying to justify a second prize, and especially on behalf of everyone who wasn’t driven off by crass product placement, Zanna, The Georgina Oath of Fealty, Alyssa’s wardrobe, questionable judging, and the usual PR-BS.

      • Sarah

        I feel the same way about giving the win to a previous winner, but since they put previous winners in the running in the beginning, I had already accepted that it could happen. I liked Korto as a person better, and her designs are more fun to look at, to me, but I saw how SA was skilled at construction with his collection to a higher degree. I didn’t like the red coat as much as others, though – I felt it had too large of a lapel (?) in front, and needed to be cut with more economy. And I really hated the yellow jumpsuit, but that’s just me. For the glasses: I liked them on the models, too, but that is probably because I wear glasses like that every day!

        • guest2visits

          I agree, of course. I just had a little leftover whining to do.
          It would be impossible not to include the winners when judging all the designers each week. True.
          Can’t deny SA has great skills, he always did. I NEVER saw him designing for QVC, though. I pictured a more eccentric niche; like rock n roll celebs….because his looks are so dramatic. I know what you’re saying about the red coat – I looked at it 2 or 3 times for exactly the same reason. I also hated the yellow jumpsuit at first; now I like it more for the art it is, and it does showcase his expertise. UGH. The glasses were intolerable on him. For some reason I could take Mondo’s lederhosen, or Viktor’s fan; but Seth’s empty frames drove me over the wall.
          Korto’s 1st and last designs are dreamy…. feminine, upbeat. Like the little dress with the pebbly shoulders too.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        Zanna! Once again she looked awful. Hmm… Maybe all the terrible looks on Alyssa and Zanna are due to Lifetime filming a new reality competition show while filming PRAS. It’s Project Stylist; 12 amateur stylists have the chance of a lifetime to make it big and win the prize! Except there was no winner. Does it look like anyone would have won this show, based on what we’ve seen on Zanna and Alyssa? :P

    • demidaemon

      I am so with TLo on the poor impulse control and now I (and my bank account) regret it. My bro and sister-in-law visited which is always….eventful. And one of my classes for the spring semester got cancelled, which means I lose half my income for the next 4-ish months. As for PRAS, I’ll just piggyback on other people’s posts when I want to make a comment.

      • formerlyAnon

        Boo hiss on the class cancellation. I hope the universe provides.

      • decormaven

        May a new opportunity arise to fill the time space. January can be the cruelest month; that’s why it’s so fab when February arrives – a short month, with chocolate to boot!

    • DollyMadisonWI

      The lounge reminds me of Twin Peaks.

    • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

      Yesterday I preordered the book! If you don’t get to come to London for a signing I’ll have to arrange for someone to post me a bookplate or something.

    • MilaXX

      Doing a DVR dump. Anyone watching Being Mary Jane? I watched the movie over the summer and liked it.I’m interested in seeing how the series will work out.

      • Sobaika

        Gabrielle Union, right? I was wondering if it was any good.

        • MilaXX

          Yes. I really liked the summer movie. Was disappointed on few points in the first series episode. Still interested though.

    • GinnyThePainter

      Here’s the imaginary runway speech I would have liked to hear from a PRAS contestestant in this last finale:

      “I’m a Brit of Irish descent, so I paid tribute to my heritage by going on a 4-day bender and producing a collection of unrelenting crap. Enjoy.”

      “Thank you, Miss McCartney.”

    • PastryGoddess

      Good Morning Everyone,

      I get to spend my weekend putting together 35 pieces of Ikea furniture. Gin has already been procured

      • decormaven

        You are an adventurous soul! Get some takeout food- you’re going to need solid food as well.

      • Qitkat

        Whew!
        Bless! One of my private pleasures is wandering the aisles of any comprehensive store, be it IKEA, or Crate and Barrel, or someplace higher end, and imagining if I had to completely outfit my (imaginary) apartment solely from the one store, how would I pull it all together with character and wit and eccentricity, satisfying a currently hidden persona from within myself.

        Easy on the gin! Those wordless directions can be challenging at the soberest of times. Celebrate with abandon afterwards. You will have more than earned it.

        • formerlyAnon

          Oh my, a new game! That sounds like fun, though I’ve gone off shopping of all kinds over the last ten years or so, somehow. Even window shopping. I think it’s because while I wouldn’t mind starting over from scratch (new game!) I have so much stuff now and I get bored trying to figure out what to get rid of or re-arrange for any new purchase. (Do not be confused, much of what I own is crap – or barely above first-apartment-out-of-college – but I do *have* it. It works, mostly, and takes up space.)

          • Qitkat

            Oh, I have plenty of stuff too! More than enough for the two people who live in our 2 story with basement house. The kids have declined to take much of what has been offered to them over the years, which was occasionally on that same level of first-apt-out-of-college, because some of it is that old, and crap too, and we haven’t offered them the good stuff yet, as we are still using and loving it. That will come with a real downsize (which gets harder every year rather than easier for me to persuade my husband; how I envy those couples on the same wavelength for downsizing) or when there is only one or neither of us left. And I’m totally with you on trying to get rid of and re-arrange, lol, working on that in between checking out posts here today. And I am off shopping pretty much too, go when I really need to find something specific. So my game is just that–a game, played when I have a little extra time after the specific item is found. But it can be fun, especially to find items that pleasure your soul but absolutely go with nothing else already owned. It kind of falls in the category of “you can never have enough of what you don’t need.” So I pass up almost everything, don’t have the kind of income to casually spend anymore. TMI, but recent freakouts over rising health insurance and medicare. The Getting Older Sucks part. Sheesh, sorry to go on so long…

            • formerlyAnon

              Oh, I understand completely. Trust me.

            • decormaven

              That’s when thrifting/junking/bargain hunting for pieces becomes fun. I can make myself really happy with a bargain find that I can rework/repurpose and bring into the home. I rotate “smalls” (decorative items) in my spaces a lot. As for paring down, when something new comes in, something old goes to Goodwill. I’m also starting to give things to special people that I know they’ll enjoy, but have no real purpose for me now. When I get really serious on downsizing, though, it’s going to be a decorator’s dream of a tag sale.

            • Qitkat

              I rotate decorative items too. I love giving the bones of a room a facelift, moving around pictures and pillows, vases and other small decor. I used to rearrange my furniture a lot too, but have done less of that in recent years. I have a serious addiction to changing pillows (one sofa is grey leather, the sectional is cream fabric, so new pillow covers really make a difference); my husband rolls his eyes whenever I get new ones. I used to do a lot of bargain hunting, and agree with you that reworking/repurposing pieces are what can really give a home character. My garage is currently begging for a trip to Goodwill. I wish my special people wanted more of my things; my style is too different from theirs I guess, I’ve tried.

            • decormaven

              I say every year I will learn to machine sew- just enough to make pillow covers, because I like to rotate pillow fabrics as well. Don’t hold to passing things on to family members- I’m getting ready to bless some close friends with some items. I just want someone to enjoy these things as much as I have. After closing out my mom’s estate, I have truly learned it’s all just “stuff.”

        • Sobaika

          I have an entire Pinterest board dedicated to my fake fabulous apartment!

      • formerlyAnon

        35 pieces? Unless there are many, many duplicates, that is utter madness.

        • PastryGoddess

          8 tables with 4 separate legs, and 26 office chairs

      • PastryGoddess

        We got 9 tables and 9 chairs put together. 17 more chairs to go for this round. We have 24 more chairs coming next week. I foresee a put your chair together party happening next week. We are supposed to have a happy hour for the team on Sunday, they may just have to earn those crabs and beer.

        An impact drill is mans best friend. I’m off to get one tomorrow

        • formerlyAnon

          Ha! You are a chair-putting-together machine! You have CONQUERED the IKEA pictographic instructions! You do sound kinda sick of it, though. Hope it goes well, be kind to less-skilled team members if you involve them.

    • Judy_J

      I wanted Korto to win, but I’m OK with Seth Aaron’s win. That red coat was gorgeous. But you know, I still remember Korto’s seat belt coat from her season of PR. I loved that coat.

      • Eric Stott

        She must hate that coat by now- her most famous piece and it was a gimmick, though a brilliant one.

    • A Shiny O’Connor

      As much as I wanted Korto to win, Seth’s red coat dress shut the competition down.

    • Lilithcat

      We understand there was some sort of Project Runway finale last night, yes?

      There was? I think I stopped watching after the 3rd episode.

      So how were your holidays, kittens?

      Delightful. A trip to Havana, where I bought art, CDs, and books, just before Christmas. Then family in for the holidays. And last Saturday, there were two new arrivals at my house in the form of a Siamese-tabby mix brothers.

    • PastryGoddess

      Anyone else watching the Globes?

      Lupita got robbed. Lets hope that doesn’t happen at the SAG’s

    • Sobaika

      LUPITA WAS ROBBED. WHERE IS KANYE WHEN YOU NEED HIM?