Musical Monday: White Christmas

Posted on December 23, 2013

Darlings, it’s time once again for our annual (now in its SEVENTH year)  T Lo Christmas tradition, the perennial “White Christmas,” done up T Lo-style, reposted once again for all our sisters out there. For there were never such devoted sisters. So many times over the years we wanted to edit this one because we kept thinking of new jokes or because we felt a line didn’t land the way we wanted to, but the more long-term and devoted of our Bitter Kittens would have our heads if we changed a word. Besides, we like that it’s getting so old now it stands as a sort of artifact of our earliest days of publishing together. Enjoy your holidays, kittens! And here’s to a fabulous 2014 for one and all. Luvyameanit.

 

Yes, it’s White Christmas! That holiday classic featuring closeted homosexuals and child abusers and the women with eating disorders who love them!
 


 
Our story starts with Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye as Wallace and Davis. entertaining duo and gay lovers. Okay, not lovers. Instead, they’re old foxhole buddies from the war who later teamed up to sing and dance their way to stardom and that doesn’t sound gay AT ALL.
 

 
Like a lot of former soldiers in the ’50s, they get their kicks by going to drag shows. Unfortunately, this one features real women, The Haynes Sisters, played by Rosemary Clooney and Vera Ellen, in a casting salute to both bulimia and anorexia.
 


 

Honeys, if a gay man over 35 tries to tell you that they don’t know EVERY SINGLE WORD to this song, don’t believe them. Trust us on this.
 


 
Feeling a tingle deep down inside, their inner urges take over and the boys find themselves fulfilling a lifetime longing. Badly. You just know Danny wanted desperately to try on the whole outfit.At any rate, there’s what passes for sexual tension in 1954 between the boys and the girls, and then things happen in the story after that but no one sings or dances, so it’s all a bit of a blur. The boys find themselves sitting up all night on a train to Vermont singing about, of all things, snow.
 


 

This was not Irving Berlin’s finest work. Maybe it was code for cocaine. It would explain a lot.
 

 
“To see a great big man entirely made of snow…”

Judging by her nipplitis, Vera’s been rubbing snow all over herself.
 

 
Hopped up on “snow,” and with no room to dance on the train, the fidgety quartet decides to make a diorama while singing at each other.
 

 
This is your brain on drugs.
 


 
Anyway, they arrive in Vermont and pull up to a charming little inn. Turns out it’s owned by their former commanding officer and it’s not doing so well. Probably because it’s on a sound stage.
 


 
The girls try to mount a show but there just aren’t enough gay men in 1954 Vermont to come out and see their special form of drag. In typical musical fashion, the foursome decide to mount a huge Broadway-style show to bring in the crowds. Because huge Broadway-style shows solve EVERYTHING.
 


 
And thus the grandest drag show Vermont’s ever seen gets mounted in a barn.
 


 
They put poor Rosemary in some of the least flattering clothes possible, but her stage costumes in this film were gorgeous.
 


 
Then Vera comes out. Vera scares us a little. For one, she’s literally built like a Barbie doll and secondly, she appears to want to have sex with everything. All the time.

Bitch can dance up a storm, though.

 

 
Which is more distracting, her bizarre pelvic region or his hot ass?
 


 
See? She wants to rip off that ugly green tuxedo and mount him right there on the stage!

Not that we can blame her. He’s hot. And that tux hurts the eyes.

 

Check it out. It’s the number that makes the picture. In fact, it’s such a fantastic number that it kind of sticks out in such a treacly, mediocre film.
 


 
Just a quaint New England Inn.
 
Hey General! Did you ever think you’re losing money because you apparently built a massive entertainment complex in the middle of the woods? The heating bills alone are probably what did him in. What did they used to keep in this barn, elephants?
 


 
Anyway, later that night, Bing and Rosemary meet in the bar to sing at each other about sheep and blessings while eating liverwurst sandwiches and buttermilk, which explains why she gained 300 pounds and why he beat his kids.

 

 
The next day, Rosemary still has gas from the buttermilk and liverwurst. Bing makes a tasteless joke about her farts in front of the company and she storms off to New York. Because she’s a bitch.
 


 
Meanwhile, Danny will only kiss Vera if she lets him call her “Larry.”

 

 
Sexually frustrated, Vera throws caution to the wind and has sex with Guido right on the stage in front of the whole company.
 


 

Nice bulge.
 


 
Bing runs off to New York in pursuit of Rosemary and finds her cavorting onstage with a gaggle of gay men right after she apparently took a roast out of the oven.

 


 

Fierce dress, girl. And yes, that’s George Chakiris.

 


 
He tries to apologize to her for making fun of her farts, but she won’t hear it.

Because she’s a bitch.

 


 
After Bing leaves, she has a sudden realization. “Shit. These skinny little New York queens I’ve been hanging out with are never gonna give me the long and hard like I know Bing can!”

 


 
So she high-tails it back to Vermont, where she and Vera dress like men to get the boys’ motors running.

 


 
Then, they all put on the gayest costumes ever designed.

 


 
And try to get a 3-way going right there on stage. Vera is hurt and breaks it up. Bing is pissed.

 


 
“Okay kids, I want you to hold those candles nice and straight, you hear me? Or I’ll beat the shit out of each and every one of you.”

 


 
All’s well that ends well and the whole company forces local children to appear onstage with them, all of whom clearly are dying of embarrassment. Except the little boy on the right, who grew up to open a leather bar on Fire Island.

 


 

MERRY CHRISTMAS, POODLES!

 

 

[Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com - Video Credit: Youtube]

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  • http://www.facebook.com/tera.brasel Tera Brasel

    Watching this movie right now, trying to get in the holiday spirit. And your comments are SPOT ON. I’m dying at Vera Allen being “literally built like a Barbie doll.”

  • http://twitter.com/RonPaganoJD Ron Pagano JD

    Now, wait one second…I’m as straight as they come, figuratively and literally, and I know the words to all the songs in this movie!! To prove what I’m saying: No, I don’t think Fosse’s butt is cuter than Vera’s pelvic area…although, I must admit that she is a little strange-looking…Barbiesque!!

    • DeborahJozayt

      Don’t fret. My husband likes Cher, Kylie Minogue, Hercules and Love Affair, The Spice Girls, as well as Madonna. Does he give a damn if others think he’s gay? Nope! Rock on with your musical-loving self!

    • alyce1213

      That’s not Bob Fosse’s butt.  He’s not a dancer in this movie.

      • Call me Bee

        And the funny thing is–the choreographer in the credits is listed as “Vance”, who IS the dancer in both the Abraham and the Mandy numbers, but I can’t find any info about him.

      • joything

        I would love to know that dancer’s name. Howdy DOODY! Maybe he had a ridiculous voice or no acting skills … except when he danced. I barely saw Vera Ellen when he was in motion.

        • calonkat

          John Brascia, I believe

    • StarburstLady

      Did you ever notice that Vera’s neck isn’t visible at any point in time in the movie? In when she’s in pajamas, they managed to find her high-necked pajamas. What was being hidden?

      • MK03

        I think high-necked costumes were her trademark.

      • DTLAFamilies

        She was anorexic and it’s believed that her neck made it obvious something was wrong, hence the turtlenecks.

        • Nicole Little

          Thanks DTLAFamilies. That clears that up.

  • http://twitter.com/Linzenbergy Lindsay Robin

    This was worth waking up early (by accident) for!  I got hooked on T and Lo back in the Project Rungay days, and always loved the Musical Mondays.  Thank you, boys, for this Christmas Eve smile and many, many others. Your bitter kittens love you, Daddy and Papa!

    Also, the costume designer apparently loved the idea of women farting tulle.  Rosemary and Vera’s stage costumes are rife with it.  Apparently, the fins on cars AND women were bigger in 1954.

    • sk8tfan

      I’ve always thought Michael Jackson got his inspiration for the glittery white glove from this movie.

      • JulieTy

        ME TOO!!!!!

    • lovelyivy

       Musical Mondays are definitely the old school TLo feature I would MOST like to see make a comeback!

      • http://twitter.com/TMamBo Therese Bohn

         Yes, I second that! Please bring back Musical Mondays, so many more musicals you haven’t reviewed!   This one is so funny!

        • harmony24

           Yes please, please more of Musical Mondays! Or at least please post the originals. They are genius and I’ve missed them so much! Happy new year, T and Lo!

          • FunButNutz

            I agree 200%! How many years has it been since the last Musical Monday?

      • H2olovngrl

        Can we have Meet Me in Saint Louis for New Year’s? Or maybe The Sound of Music? Those two are my favorites!

        • lillyvonschtupp

          Yes! Besides, I thought that you guys once considered trecking into Fred and Ginger RKO territory.

  • http://twitter.com/Linzenbergy Lindsay Robin

    Note to Self: Do not post before imbibing coffee.  Ever.

    • DeborahJozayt

      I’ve learned to eat and have everything cleared a good 15 minutes before coming to TLo. I’ve gone through 2 keyboards because of this site..

  • HomeOfficeGirl

    Fantastic! 
    Merry Christmas, TLo!  Thank you for bringing joy throughout the year to the all the little bitter kittens of the world.  Hope you have a wonderful holiday!

  • http://twitter.com/foodycatAlicia foodycatAlicia

    Merry Christmas TLo & the pusscats. Merry Christmas bitter kittens and PUFs.

  • http://kingderella.tumblr.com/ kingderella

    LOVE

  • Donald Wannagat

    OMG. My favorite movie and I will never watch it again without thinking about how hard I laughed at this. Yinz guys (I’m from Pittsburgh) are the best. Happy Holidays! (P.S. I’m Mary, not Donald)

    • BobStPaul

       My family always spelled it younz.  :-)

      • AZU403

        I always thought it was “youens”.
        Happy holidays to you and yours, guys!

  • sleepycat

    Since I was a young gay boy, I have always wanted to open a nightclub with floorshows (and now drag shows) and classy dancing. That should have been a signal that I was gay, but alas I was too deep in denial. Thanks to your commentary I think you are spot on. I am going to forward this to my mother. We always put this on to fall asleep and somehow we manage to fall asleep by the two left feet number. Sorry for the long comment, but what about the choreography number. That always spooked me. lol Thanks for your warm and always hilarious Xmas greeting!

    Edit: My ex also staged the Sister’s song for a Sister “Mary Theresa” who was retiring, while doing in habit drag.

  • Corsetmaker

    Aw I love that film. And I’ve always loved that black dress of Rosemary Clooney’s.
    The song Sisters reminds me of my Gran and her sister singing it at my grandparent’s golden wedding anniversary party.

    • akprincess72

      I always wanted that black New York dress, when I was a little girl I loved it & still do now…

      • IMNAngryLiberal

        Same here .. when I was a little girl, that was my idea of GLAMOUR. Now I am a not even close to little girl and it still is!

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        That black dress is to.die.for. Love, love. It’s in my fantasy closet of dresses to wear to fantasy black tie events.

  • pattyw

    OK, TLo, answer me this — why do we NEVER see Vera’s neck?

    • MissKimP

      Perhaps…she has an Adam’s apple!

    • tripletmom96

      pattyw – by the time she made white christmas, vera ellen was thought to be very seriously anorexic.  it is thought that her neck and arms were kept covered to disguise the premature aging that is common with anorexia, not to mention how skeletal her whole chest area must have looked – a particularly undesirable look for that era….

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=513178098 Hannah Shule Katz

      That was because of her anorexia. I read somewhere that her neck was so thin and bony I don’t know the medically correct way of putting that) that even the costume designers knew it wasn’t right, so they and she aways tried to hide it. It’s sad, because she was extremely talented!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

        There’s no proof she had anorexia. People were significantly smaller in the 1950′s and had much lower body fat because the food wasn’t filled with additives/vitamins and because portions were significantly smaller. If you look at any vintage clothing from that period up close, you’ll notice how small people were. Also, she was primarily a dancer for a film studio. She probably rehearsed a ton and that could mean she had a pretty high metabolism because she was simply quite active. Combine all that with weight limits that the studios had back then and you get someone who is pretty darn thin. Another thought – people assume she had anorexia, when a much more plausible reason for her thinness would be a hyperactive thyroid. There’s more than one reason for someone to be thin. I dare any modern woman to dance like that in heels like that and not lose tons of weight. Look at all the celebrities who go on Dancing with the Stars and come off it saying they lost weight.

    • BrooklynBomber
  • http://www.twitter.com/allforusophia AllForUSophia

    Merry Christmas from the old continent guys! All the best to all the BK’s! xx

  • Jennifer Coleman

    Ahhh, some much needed Christmas humor! You’ve captured every off-kilter thought I’ve had about this movie and then some. If I could, I’d pay you two to make an audio commentary to this movie, like you find in DVD sets. It’d be genius. Happy Holidays, Lovlies!

  • http://heartprintandstyle.com/ Vivi N

    That was awesome! Never watched the movie and definitely enjoyed the photo/video recap.

    Meanwhile, thank you for adding another word into my vocabulary list: diorama. Much appreciated.

    Merry Christmas, T+Lo!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1219135333 Alanna Wister

    I saw this movie for the first time last summer at a “Christmas in July” party, and I totally didn’t realize it is, in fact, The Gayest Movie Ever. Then again, the party was full of conservative Christian types. For the record, I am quite the opposite of that, but the hostess is SO sweet and never mentions religion around me. Does that make it okay?  I wonder what they’d say if I showed them this post….

    (Also, I’m heading to Dallas in a few hours, where the forecasts say we might actually have a white Christmas. Imagine that! Thanks for the early holiday present, TLo!)

    • akprincess72

      I’m conservative Christian & I laughed my butt off!  A sense of humor is okay to have & loving all is even better!  MAybe they just enjoy your company?!  Enjoy Dallas in the snow, it’s fun to watch people spin at the lights because they refuse to let up on the gas…  Happy Holidays!

  • captrenault

    I’ve somehow never seen this, and now I MUST.  Thanks, TLo!  This is the bestest Christmas gift EVAR!

  • Anathema_Device

    I love you guys so much. Thanks for keeping this cherished tradition alive.

  • pugluv

    Best Christmas post EVER!!!!!! I know the words to Sisters…What does that say about me???  Nothing better than camp to put me in the holiday mood.  Thank you TLO!!!!

  • https://twitter.com/Gayer_Than_Thou Gayer Than Thou

    It’s awfully early to be putting liquor in the egg nog. But you’ve inspired me.

    • formerlyAnon

      Early?! You come from abstemious people.

  • MoHub

    This posting is the highlight of my holiday season every year! Never stop posting it!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RDEDI3ONWSVDQS5GXKKBIML3H4 Chase

    I love love love your Musical Mondays.  I re-read all of them every few months.

    If you guys ever bring them back and recap Some Like it Hot, I will literally explode from happiness.

  • alyce1213

    Thank you for this hilarious post.  I’ve always thought of this movie as high camp. I much prefer 1942′s Holiday Inn. I never noticed how emaciated Vera Ellen is in this movie, certainly by 1954 standards.  Scary.

  • SewingSiren

    I wonder if the kid that opened leather bar on Fire Island reads TLO. I’ll put money on him being a regular poster.

  • janierainie

    Merry Christmas Uncles! So funny!

  • annieanne

    Ah! My Christmas preparations are complete. TLo’s musical tribute to Vermont this morning. Later today I’ll watch the movie.
    Thanks guys!

    • bitchybitchybitchy

      At some point during this holiday season I’ll be watching this movie and then re-reading TLo’s delicious deconstruction of it! Merry Christmas to TLo and all of the Bitter Kittens!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=513178098 Hannah Shule Katz

    I wish Musical Mondays would come back! They made me laugh harder than anything.

  • Little_Olive

    Oh, such a merry Christmas now! 

    And Marry Christmas to all the unborn fawns out there. 

  • bertkeeter

    Clooney’s black velevet gown is ‘The bomb”! Would enjoy White Xmas if that abusive father and wife beater ,SOB… Bing Crosby, wasn’t in it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1074301175 Beverly Hensley Kozma

    Thank you so much for this.  I’m sending it to my sisters, to make their holidays cheery!

  • MzzPants

    Best Christmas gift ever.  Merry Christmas, TLo!

  • Le_Sigh

    YESSSSSSS!!!!  Oh how I’ve missed these – TLo Classique!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

    Excuse me for having foreign parents, but I used to enjoy liverwurst sandwiches as a child… Never drank buttermilk though.

    • Call me Bee

      I still do!  On dark rye with a slab o’ onion.  Germany on my plate…

  • http://www.facebook.com/lenoradody Lenora Dody

    Thanks for this guys! Oh, how I’ve missed Musical Mondays. Merry Christmas from this Bitter kitten and her cats to you and your cats!

  • Qitkat

    When I was a (very young and naive) 13-year old, my dad’s company threw a Christmas party for all the employee’s kids, and showed this movie in a rented auditorium, more than 50 (ouch!) years ago. My brothers, 11 and 5, and I, did not especially enjoy ourselves, and this Musical Mondays recap has enlightened me in many ways! *Thanks for the memories, she said wryly.*

    Merry Christmas to TLo and their kitties, and to all my fellow Bitter Kittens!
    Looks like Denver will also have a white Christmas. yay!

  • BeaDee

    We watched this the other night and my most repeated comment was, “Why can’t Edith Head costume my life???” I want Rosemary’s black dress. And the dark green one. And Vera Ellen’s black and white skirt… 

    • Lisa M. (ReVoir) Kramp

       Edith Head was one reason I wanted to direct film, so she’d work for me just once before she died! The woman was a frakking genius!

  • http://twitter.com/skinnyrhodes Kate Skinner

    Thank you thank you thank you thank you for reposting this! I was raised watching this movie (along with “Holiday Inn”) every holiday season and can’t tell you how happy your synopsis makes me.  I loved it last year and it’s even better today

    “Okay kids, I want you to hold those candles nice and straight, you hear me? Or I’ll beat the shit out of each and every one of you.”

    DEAD.  I am dead.

    Thank you TLo and please have a happy holiday!!

    • jonnyf8

      Holiday Inn is so much better — if only Danny Kaye and Vera Ellen had been in it.

  • jonnyf8

    You guys need to bring back Musical Mondays — and maybe you could look at some more current attempts.  I would love to see your take on Dreamgirls and esp. NINE.  And I know most of us are going to end up going to see Annie Hathaway and Huge Ackman this week even though we all agree that Les Mis is the most craptastic thing ever to hit the stage.

  • baxterbaby

    “God Bless us, everyone!”

  • http://twitter.com/neeBarbero Debby Griffiths

    Merry Christmas to our Uncles and all the Kittens (Bitter and otherwise) from a grateful lurker.  Thank you for the Musical Monday post.  

  • voter1

    I will never watch “White Christmas” again with out thinking about your post.  Thanks.

  • formerlyAnon

    Thank-you fellas. This has been one of my holiday traditions (and mid-year pick-me-ups) since you first posted it. Somehow it just enhances my annual devotion to the movie itself. (Probably going to watch for the third time this year tonight while last-minute-baking.)

    Merry Christmas (or happy non-Christmas) to one and all!

  • YourBaloneyDontGotNoSecondName

    thanks guys.  

  • Cydne Butler

    Merry Christmas from this long-time unborn fawn who has graduated to bitter kitten.  Thanks for making my days brighter all year long but I expecially thank you for this old Musical Monday post (this is one of my favorites!)  Best to you in the New Year!
    Cyd Charise

  • http://vhanna26.typepad.com Vera

    The BEST REVIEW OF WHITE CHRISTMAS EVER!!! Thanks & Merry Christmas.

  • Markatha

    This is one Christmas Treat I end up re-watching Year after Year. 
    It’s a fun holiday film to have on while Gift-wrapping, Card Writing, Holiday Housecleaning etc. 
     I love the gorgeous colors in this film, the costumes, the music, the camp, the cheese & Mary Wicks. 
     Nothing better.  I try to skip it some years but that little gay boy inside won’t let me.
    It’s just too much fun (we’re watching today). 
    Thanks for the post Boys and have a Very Merry Christmas!

  • http://phantomminuet.blogspot.com/ MinAgain

    I love this movie. My girlfriends and I use to get together every Christmas to watch and to comment on how Danny’s socks always matched his pants.

    • formerlyAnon

      That socks thing is probably one of my favorite things, after the dancing itself.

      • Jackie4g

        What about all those dyed to match shoes? Danny’s grey suede and the Mandy scene dancer’s sage green, not to mention the Mandy scene dancers with their darker green. Loved that detail the most, after of course, Rosemary’s black dress.

  • Kate4queen

    I still love this movie despite agreeing with everything you say LOL Happy christmas everyone!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=11518328 Kim Sheehan

    What is with those sparkly gloves? Did  Michael Jackson win them in a Hollywood auction?
     

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=733516833 Toby Wollin

    OK, guys – you did not mention my favorite fashion moment, which is Danny Kaye dancing with Vera Ellen to “The Best Things Happen While You’re Dancing” because…his shoes match his damn suit. In suede. That’s right – light blue suede shoes and a light blue suit. From the WTF collection…

    • formerlyAnon

      The shoes and the suit AND the socks. Had a conversation with friends the other day about production values and costuming revolving around that very number.

      • Jackie4g

        I just posted about that detail, a full year after you did! I didn’t realize the re-print of the White Christmas review also included the original comments. Ah well, they’re all still true!

    • Kylara7

      That’s a beautifully choreographed and danced number…one of my favorites.  They were pretty progressive/avant garde there in the 50s, combining classical, ballroom, and tap moves with early pole dancing.  ;)

  • Angela Langdale

    Oooooh, I’m feelin’ the Holly Jolly Christmas Spirit now ~ and I’m wishing you both a Big Fat Gay Holiday with oodles of joy!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mary-Elizabeth-Poytinger-Baumer/1516981341 Mary Elizabeth Poytinger Baume

     dying of awesome boys, dying of awesome…

  • BrooklynBomber

    Happy whatever you celebrate (or not), everybody! ♥♥♥ -BB

  • whitrome

    This Musical Monday edition has become a Christmas tradition for me. I drool over Bing and marvel at vera’s acrobatics, but I must admit, your special interpretation is even more entertaining than this, one of my favorite Christmas movies ever! Thanks boys, and Merry Christmas to you!

  • http://www.thirteen.org/insidethirteen Gotham Tomato

    Classic!

    I miss Musical Mondays (vagina hats and all). You should bring them all out of mothballs for a series.

    Happy Holidays to all!

    –GothamTomato

  • altalinda

    Merry Christmas, TLo, you bring me great joy, a lot of laughs, and food for thought throughout the year.  Have a wonderful holiday.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JSGAZPEESHQT47ATH55GNOHHBY Erin

    Aw, Merry Christmas, you two.

  • Lisa M. (ReVoir) Kramp

    This is my favorite Christmas movie, all 50′s kitsch and false wholesomeness. Love a lot of the music, all the choreography (throw Vera down those stairs and catch her, you twinkie bitches!) and the costumes. I still want Rosemary’s black velvet dress, minus the oven gloves!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBGUD7Y6KYRNL7PCKYNPD2UGSM Carol

      I love the gowns she and Vera-Ellen wore in Sisters.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SQZ3CPVWYEYEXTZXEJ3GGJ4MLM Skippy

    I bet that grandest drag show in Vermont is not the only thing that was mounted in that barn in Vermont!! LOL.
    Also, that horrendous song “We Love Him”, as all these soldiers are singing that to the General. Can you imagine men in the Armed Forces actually singing that in real life?? Egads. That and the way Bing wears his officer’s hat cocked to one side……..I keep wanting Dean Jagger to knock it  off of his head, and as Bing goes to pick it up, Dean kicks Bing’s ass and tells him to wear the hat the way a soldier would actually wear the hat.

  • MK03

    We just closed our production of White Christmas in Denver and I thought of this entry almost every day. Never fails to make me laugh.

  • Dagney

    Vera Allen canNOT dance you guys.  She can move decently, but that lady has no dance technique.

    • http://www.facebook.com/fiddlecub Kevin VanOrd

      Of course she has technique. In fact, she was known for having such precision that she didn’t command enough warmth. She demonstrates some pretty fine tap and swing technique in White Christmas, and a lot of range across numerous films. Gene Kelly himself said that Vera was the best all-round dancer he worked with, at least according to his wife Patricia. I think I’ll trust Gene to know what “dancing” is, and that Vera did more than just, you know, “move.”

  • rainwood1

    I love this tradition!!  Lord help the mister who comes between me and my sister, and Lord help the sister who comes between me and my T Lo.  As for everyone else, raindrops on roses and you bitter kittens are a few of my favorite things.

    Merry Christmas and happy hoiidays to all! 

  • TheDivineMissAnn

    Lately I have just been lurking and not posting, but just wanted to wish TLo and all the UBF and BK’s a very, very Happy Christmas and New Year.

    A special shout to NDCCentral, hope all is going well with you!

  • Call me Bee

    I love this movie (and all those sappy 50s musicals…) know every move and every note–even the dialog.  (“You’re much more exciting than my cocker spaniel…”) I try not to get too cynical about them, despite the backstories. 
    Merry Christmas, Gentelmen, and to all the PUF/BK’s, too.  :) 

  • margaret meyers

    I can’t even enjoy how gauche this movie is.  I love old movies, but this is a stinker.  Go with Holiday Inn, even with the Abraham Lincoln dark-face number.

  • LittleKarnak

    LOL! Several of my patients were watching this on Christmas Eve and the whole time I was thinking of your review!!! Merry Christmas!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

    Merry Christmas, y’all!

  • ccm800

    Merry Christmas Philly Fellows!  

  • BuffaloBarbara

    And yes, that’s George Chakiris.

    You guys are scaring me.  When did you learn to read my mind?

  • Melvis Velour

    I could see this as a holiday movie but the Wizard of Oz which has somehow turned into an Xmas tradition?  I would love to see TLo’s synopsis of that…

    Happy holidays BKs and best wishes for a healthy, happy and prosperous 2013!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1266410766 Phyllis Craine

    If we ever see George Clooney in drag he will look exactly like his Aunt Rosemary

  • quiltrx

    You guys are the best!  I love this movie, but it is just sitting there waiting for the gay-MST3K treatment, isn’t it?  Thank you for the HUGE laughs before I go back to work today. :)

  • FashionShowAtLunch

    I’m fairly certain Vera-Ellen had a rib removed.

  • librarygrrl64

    Reading this after stuffing my face with Christmas leftovers was NOT a good idea! I miss Musical Mondays (maybe one for Les Mis???), and I adore you both. THANK YOU!!! xxxooo

  • adnama79

    I sent a link to this post to my sister last year or some other year, and it took her 3 weeks to forgive me.  We watched this movie endlessly (year round) as kids, performed the sisters routine regularly…  I thought she’d love this post.  Apparently I’m not allowed to poke fun.  White Christmas is apparently a sacrament.  I never would’ve known, without this post.  Which made me laugh for 5 solid minutes.

  • Thomas Rosenberger

    Gay and over 35 here. Do not know the lyrics to “Sisters”. Enough with projecting “gay” cliches and stereotypes. You do a disservuce to others and are behaving like Uncle Toms.

    • Pennymac

      And you, Mr. Rosenberger, are a doody head.

    • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

      Get a hold of yourself. Mary. Your slip is showing.

  • Markatha

    I happen to know a lot of over 35 gays, including me, who do know the lyrics to “Sisters” and I love them for it. 
    I grew up when “gay” was another word for “happy” not someone like me. 
    Others like me (stereotypes or not) were invisable, unspeakable & “non-existant”. 
    I’m actually proud of those Cliches & Stereotypes for making me laugh & paving the way. 
    If (prougly) knowing the lyrics to “Sisters” makes me a gay cliche that’s okay with me. 
     
    Be careful Thomas, you seem to be getting dangerously close to becoming the stereotypical, bitchy, “Mean Queen” cliche.

  • Kylara7

    I love this movie, for both the cheesy text and the delightfully subversive (for the times) subtext.  My family watched this movie every holiday season and now I do too.  My dad used to sing the “Sisters” song as an accompaniment to childhood fights between me and my sister…and we still love it!  If only life were more like a classic musical…I want to dress up in fantastic dresses and sing/dance in swanky nightclubs and sound stage farms :P

  • juliesd

    goi

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KCDEX4FOTCFHZP6WLKSOOKUVM Danielle

    Ooh, thank you for this.  I miss Musical Mondays, please bring them back!

  • IMNAngryLiberal

    1) Merry Christmas, T&Lo!
    2) Rosemary Clooney’s black New York dress was and always will be my definition of GLAMOUR!!!
    3) Olivia Newton John and John Travolta are talking about remaking this movie — someone needs to stop them, pleassssse.  I’m pretty sure that would be the end of the world that the Mayans predicted.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBGUD7Y6KYRNL7PCKYNPD2UGSM Carol

      Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta remaking the film would be just horrible.  Olivia N-J can’t sing AT ALL and I don’t think I’ve ever watched an entire movie with J Travolta in it.  Yes, that includes Saturday Night Fever and those Look Who’s Talking flicks.

      • http://www.facebook.com/fiddlecub Kevin VanOrd

        I agree that an Olivia and John remake would probably be a bad film, but I take umbrage with the idea that Olivia Newton-John “can’t sing AT ALL.” She can sing perfectly fine. Without the aid of auto-tune, she sang multiple pop songs while remaining in tune, and had some musical range, demonstrating control of her voice when necessary. (Contrast, for instance, the light soprano of I Honestly Love You with a few throaty moments in A Little More Love, when she reveals more of her lower register.) Her breathless head voice may not be to everyone’s liking, but matters of taste cannot be reduced to “she can’t sing AT ALL,” as if that’s the end of the matter. Do you not like her singing? Sure–fair enough. But she can, indeed, sing; she is not a wailing hyena bereft of an understanding of pitch and rhythm. 

  • http://twitter.com/rawrali Alison

    Yay! I love that you reposted this. I saw it on Netflix a couple weeks ago, watched it, and then found the post in your archives. It was a great reread. Hilarious.

  • Mistie Holler

    When you liten to ‘snow’ and imagine they’re referring to cocaine, it becomes so much more entertaining. “To see a mountain covered with a quilt of snow…”

  • Michelle

    And you say nothing about the butt broach on the black dress?!?!?!  Missed opportunity for sarcasm there.

  • Angela Phebus

    I insist on watching White Christmas every year but your version is by FAR the best!

  • VivianAdvanced

    It’s after Christmas now and I’m just reading this. Thank you, T&L, because I opted not to watch “White Christmas” this year because my sister, with whom I ALWAYS view it, could not be with me this Christmas and I just didn’t want to see it without her. This way, I could relive it in just a few hilarious seconds. I love Rosie’s Edith Head gowns in this movie (it was Edith Head, wasn’t it, who designed them?) and wish that there were really clubs that looked like the Carousel Club where she was dancing with George Chakiris. However, how could you not mention how absolutely hunky Bing looked in his white T-shirt in that dressing room scene? Bing’s built like something a partridge would have been pecking on while sitting in the pear tree! And how could you not mention Danny Kaye’s and Vera Ellen’s delightful dance number, “The Best Things Happen While You’re Dancing”? In all seriousness, it’s one of my favorite dance routines in all filmdom and it’s always bypassed in any old Hollywood classic dance clips. And then there’s Dean (no relation to Mick) Jagger, who refers to Bing as “son” even though he’s either younger or not much older than Bing. And then there’s the picture of Alfalfa as an adult that’s supposed to be Rosie and Vera’s brother. And then there’s annoying Mary Wickes, who’s responsible for the highly infuriating misunderstanding Rosie and BIng have. Actually, the snow song is genius compared to that “What Do They Do with a General?” ditty that Irving Berlin must have composed while he was sitting on the toilet. I love this wonderful, awful movie! Next year, I’ll watch it in its entirety.

  • VivianAdvanced

    It’s after Christmas now and I’m just reading this. Thank you, T&L, because I opted not to watch “White Christmas” this year because my sister, with whom I ALWAYS view it, could not be with me this Christmas and I just didn’t want to see it without her. This way, I could relive it in just a few hilarious seconds. I love Rosie’s Edith Head gowns in this movie (it was Edith Head, wasn’t it, who designed them?) and wish that there were really clubs that looked like the Carousel Club where she was dancing with George Chakiris. However, how could you not mention how absolutely hunky Bing looked in his white T-shirt in that dressing room scene? Bing’s built like something a partridge would have been pecking on while sitting in the pear tree! And how could you not mention Danny Kaye’s and Vera Ellen’s delightful dance number, “The Best Things Happen While You’re Dancing”? In all seriousness, it’s one of my favorite dance routines in all filmdom and it’s always bypassed in any old Hollywood classic dance clips. And then there’s Dean (no relation to Mick) Jagger, who refers to Bing as “son” even though he’s either younger or not much older than Bing. And then there’s the picture of Alfalfa as an adult that’s supposed to be Rosie and Vera’s brother. And then there’s annoying Mary Wickes, who’s responsible for the highly infuriating misunderstanding Rosie and BIng have. Actually, the snow song is genius compared to that “What Do They Do with a General?” ditty that Irving Berlin must have composed while he was sitting on the toilet. I love this wonderful, awful movie! Next year, I’ll watch it in its entirety.

  • JeffNYC

    The guy who dances with Vera-Ellen. His name was John Brascia. He was a phenomenal dancer.

  • KevinRaymondSpicer

    How could you not mention the “Choreography” number?  The send-up of Martha Graham was hysterical!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Norita-Bergmann/755579340 Norita Bergmann

    Thank you, Thank you, thank you…PLEASE bring back Movie Musical Mondays….all the emphasis on no talent tweeners and pseudo actors and actresses is not NEARLY as fun…please go back to your roots!!

  • jennsilentcrow

    aw come on. Have a heart.
    a. You didnt even mention Rosemary’s military cross step. MAybe the worst dancer ever.
    b.Vera is trying her best on 2 stalks of celery and who knows what god awful diet drugs, and treachea clenching necklines.
    c. I’ll never forgive you for making fun of SNOW.
    d. agreed on that black number for rosemary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Joe.Coloff Joseph Coloff

    I’ll tell you all You have to see this movie on Blu-Rey, it is spectacular in a technicolor way. One of my favorite holiday movies of all time, even if it is a lot campy. 

  • Ariel

    I still don’t know how you can have a post about White Christmas and not talk about the weird pole-dancing part on the pier. I’m totally scarred for life because of it.

  • Anna_Cecilia

    This NEVER gets old, I still laugh my ass off at, “Except the little boy on the right, who grew up to open a leather bar on Fire Island.”

    I’m one of the few people (dumb) enough to show up to work the day after an ice storm, so this provided some much needed cheer. Thanks!

  • marlie

    White Christmas is my favorite holiday movie, as sappy as it is, but this kills me every time. Thanks, TLo!

    • random_poster

      Mine too. I have a soft spot for Danny Kaye.

  • Jessica Freeman

    So happy the Uncles introduced me to this movie. I basically watch it on repeat the entire season and chuckle along with TLo’s commentary in my head.

    Merry Holidays to the Uncles and Bitter Kittens!

  • ballerinawithagun

    Thank you and Merry Christmas! My sister and I had the “Sisters” song memorized, of course.
    And Happy Birthday to me! My birthday is Christmas Eve. Fortunately, champagne and cooking go very well together! Any one else with the formerly dreaded Christmas Eve or Christmas Day birthdays?

    • marlie

      Happy birthday!! My sister’s birthday is Christmas Day, so we’ve been serving birthday cake at Christmas dinner for as long as I can remember. (And mine is the day before Valentine’s Day, which is also a “loaded” holiday for a birthday.)

    • random_poster

      Happy Birthday!

    • formerlyAnon

      Happy Birthday! Hope it’s fun even if under-recognized.

    • Suse

      My dear hubby’s birthday is also the 24th. Happy Birthday to you both! My grandparents were married on Christmas day around 1910.

  • ashtangajunkie

    This post is as essential to the holidays as Martha Stewart’s gingerbread recipe and drinking before noon. Happy Christmas!

  • MoHub

    I never get tired of this! Please never stop rerunnning it!

  • Kelly

    “What Do You Do With A General Who’s Retired?” has to be the lowest low-low-low point of Irving Berlin’s career.

    Merry Christmas and happy-whatever-you-celebrate to you all.

  • formerlyAnon

    Thank-you, thank-you! I know I can (and do) go back to the archives but it’s not the same thing as a post with a few words from TLo. This is my very favorite since the very first time, thanks tons and always. And hoping you and yours are having a happy holiday season.

  • boweryboy

    I love this! White Christmas has never been the same since, and that’s a good thing.

  • AuntHo

    TLo, you just gave this scrooge a reason for the season. FINALLY something to squee about with the rest of them! God you’re beautiful.

  • Lucie Smith

    Always my favorite. Now I’m finally in the holiday spirit. My husband finally watched this year with me and I think he found my commentary amusing. (I always have to say ‘THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGS!’) I had to finally tell him while I might be witty, I’m just not that good and read him the full post afterwards.

  • Billie_Dawn

    Even though I know it’s coming, “This is your brain on drugs” gets me every time. EVERY. TIME.

  • Valdri8

    I now refer to this as “Whites Only Christmas”, but I know every word and still cry like a mofo at the ending. Dammit.

    • marlie

      You’re joking about the remake, right? RIGHT?!

      • demidaemon

        I sincerely hope so!

  • mjude

    So excited to see this posted. Cant believe I have been reading it for 7 years! MERRY CHRISTMAS BITTER KITTENS. you all make my day especially on the days I need them! :) TLO thanks for 2013

  • DKBB

    This is the gift that just keeps on giving. Thank you, TLo, and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours!

  • brown-eyed girl

    Oh, how I love you, TLo!

  • MilaXX

    Just remembered who made the original Walter Mitty movie.(Danny Kaye) I’d been meaning to google, but was too lazy.

    • MoHub

      And even that was a distortion of the original Thurber story. I’d love to see Mitty done as written.

      • MilaXX

        I’ve never read the original. Maybe I’ll add it to my book list.

        • MoHub

          It’s just a short story. And Mitty is a middle-aged married man with an overbearing wife who escapes into his imagination because his life sucks.

  • random_poster

    I watched this on TV the other night, and was thrilled to see it re-posted today. Thanks for doing so!

    TLo: I would love to read the new jokes and edits you’ve thought of making. Do please consider a White Christmas v. 2.0!

    • UsedtobeEP

      Agree, agree. New posts are always welcome. How can you tease us like that…

  • IMNAngryLiberal

    I find it hysterical that my tattooed, edgy, cynical daughter LOVES, LOVES,LOVES this movie. Our Christmas Eve movie marathon this year is White Christmas, Miracle on 34th Street (the B&W version, of course), and Christmas in Connecticut.

  • Anathema_Device

    Oh, T Lo. this is a classic for a reason. Even though I’ve read it any number of times, I always guffaw at the line about Clooney taking the roast out of the over. Thanks for the Christmas cheer, Bitter Kitten style!

  • bitchybitchybitchy

    Oh, my! After finishing yet another batch of butter cookies, I needed this! Uncles, you’re right-never change a word-this is a fab Christmas traditon!
    BTW-Vera does look like she’d have done every guy on the stage-and Guido was hot!

    • formerlyAnon

      You’re a one-woman bake shop! Hope you get a breath before the day.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I confess to enjoying the baking, and sharing the cookies with friends, family and neighbors. Later today I’ll be off to see “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum” in D.C., with dinner at Jaleo before the show!

        • demidaemon

          We’re going to be baking up a storm here at Chez Demidaemon as well. Last night we made all the doughs that needed chilling, so this week will be a rollout and bake marathon as well as a couple more cookies that don’t need the chilling, including a new recipe from King Arthur Flour.

  • Alan

    Yes! Musical Mondays were what got me hooked here and I still miss them. While I’ll always wish there were more it’s good to be reminded of the good old days.

  • Jennifer L.

    Vera Ellen could DANCE like nobody’s business!

  • mindo820

    Dear Uncle T and Uncle Lo, PLEASE DO HOLIDAY INN NEXT!!!!! Love, Bitter Mindo

  • meowing

    Every year I laugh harder and harder at this. Just saw the movie a few nights ago, and I wondered when/if you’d re-post this classic. Merry Christmas, TLo!

  • Clueless_Jock

    Hilarious! Merry Christmas :)

  • Daxx2513

    Ah, sweet memories! You’re now right up there with the Rankin Bass specials as something to wait for each year. Has it been that long?

  • Lenora Dody

    I miss Musical Mondays; it always made Mondays so much better and this one is a classic. Thanks for the repost!

  • carolynmo

    Yea!! NOW. It’s Christmas! I love this post. Thanks, guys. Merry Christmas to one and all!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1180174329 Elizabeth Phillips

    Okay. Now you’ve posted the old version, may we please see the new version with the extras jokes? Because I love to compare the old and new.

  • trisker

    LOVE LOVE LOVE this every single year!! Merry Christmas TLo!

  • fnarf

    Bravo! Bravissimo! Your review is perfect, and like all the best TLo action is better than the movie it is commenting on. And in the process shows why movies like this are so fabulous they don’t have to be “good”. Modern movies just can’t compete with magic like this, however ridiculous it may be.

  • Jacob Bowen

    The young gays are memorizing “Sisters” too! My sister and I were going to do a duet of it at my college senior voice recital, but due to a lack of amazing powder blue feathered fans, I couldn’t proceed. Now I MUST watch this movie tonight and read the review along with it!

    • Anna_Cecilia

      I always mean to read the review whenever the movie is on, I need to make more of an effort to remember to do it this year. Those “amazing powder blue feathered fans” are literally made of awesome, I want one for myself. Hope you and your sister get to do the duet one day!

  • Judy_J

    Thank you for this Christmas gift you don’t have to wrap. My favorite Christmas movie done TLo-style. For years my brother and I would watch this movie and make similar comments….it’s just like you were there with us. Merry Christmas!

  • Democracy Diva

    Every year I forget that you wonderful men do this post. And every year it’s the best part of this lil’ Jew’s Christmas. A very happy holidays to you and all of your loved ones, TLo. May the new year bring you even more success and happiness!

  • http://angrynerdgirl.net/ Jessi03

    Hooray! Reading this has become one of my favorite holiday traditions! Also, once again, I am missing Musical Mondays. Merry Christmas, TLo and fellow kittens!

  • demidaemon

    Heee. I look forward to this post every year. We’ll probably watch this movie again post-Christmas and I will have to do my best to not think about this post while watching it. Merry Christmas, everyone!

  • Kate4queen

    Thank you. you just made my Christmas. :) x

  • Lisa M. (ReVoir) Kramp

    Reading this post is one of my newer traditions. And watching ‘White Christmas’ is one of my olds ones. Have a safe and joyous holiday, kittens. Merry Christmas, TLo!

  • Jonquil

    Musical Monday! It’s a Christmas miracle!

  • Suse

    More good Christmas movies: Christmas in Connecticut (Barbara Stanwyck as faux Martha Stewart), Remember the Night (BS as a con, with Fred MacMurray), No Man of Her Own (BS – great noirish flick not totally Christmasy, but sort of). Can you tell I love Barbara?

  • lillyvonschtupp

    I miss Musical Mondays! Can you guys resurrect it in 2014, pretty please?

  • dellagraceslife

    Supposedly Barbie was modeled after Vera Ellen. Too lazy to verify this, however.

    • boweryboy

      Barbie was modeled after the German Bild Lilli doll. I only know this because my very first BF was a Barbie fanatic.

  • CeeQ

    hahahahaha oh fucking hell, I read this every year and every year I give myself an asthma attack laughing. I don’t even have asthma.
    “…gaggle of gay men…” LOL. Best.

  • Jacqueline Wessel

    When I got to my sister’s house today my brother-in-law was watching this movie. I thought of this post and had a secret chuckle. And now here it is again. Love that.

    Merry Holidays, everybody.

  • rainwood1

    I watched WC on TV last week, and looked up the T Lo commentary afterwards just to enjoy it again. The finale number is always where I think of you two the most, T Lo.

    And I learned a fun fact. Although someone I hadn’t heard of dubbed most of Vera Ellen’s singing, Rosemary Clooney actually did both parts of “Sisters” which is my favorite number.

    Have a wonderful holiday, everyone!

  • Sunraya

    Bing Crosby, “or I’ll beat the shit out of each and every one of you”! This line still makes me laugh hysterically even after all of these years!
    Thanks TLo, you are the best!

  • BitterOldQueen

    Greatest holiday movie ever (“It’s a Wonderful Life” is weepy and treacly and full of socialist propaganda about taking care of each other–who needs all that preachiness? “A Christmas Movie” is a direct plagiarism of my childhood in the mid-1960s but set in the 1940s just to make me feel old, so it’s vile and evil; “Miracle on 34th Street” is a preposterous salute to the functionally insane; and Scrooge’s fixation on Tiny Tim always smacked uncomfortably of pedophilia). Also possibly the gayest musical ever (and I’m looking at you, “My Fair Lady”)

  • Elsewhere1010

    The only problem with this movie? No vagina hats.

    Remember when you boys coined the term vagina hat? That’s when I fell in love with both of you. And then immediately watched The Harvey Girls…

  • MarieLD

    I’m going to show the dancing scenes to my 8 year old niece, who loves dance, but her mom has her enrolled in classes called “pom” and they watch Dance Moms. <>

    • MoHub

      Aargh!

    • Guest

      Really?? I mean, Coat Porn and shoe porn are funny for grownups, but associating the word with anything to do with children is appalling.

      • MarieLD

        heehee. POM, not PORN. That would be awful. And pom, which involves pom poms, ala cheerleading, is bad enough. She also does lyrical and ballet, but I would love for her to do tap.

  • Sarah

    Yay TLo and Merry Christmas everyone! Have drinks, get mad for not getting the three-or-four-gay-or-straight-way sex you wanted, then put on a show! THAT’S a holiday! Love to all the BK’s and may your holiday be joyous, for the gifts, the food, the time off, the friends and family, or at least because it’s soon to be over!

  • thehousesparrow

    Always a tradition! This post stands the test of time.

  • joything

    Tears running down my cheeks … just like every year. Oh, Christmas drag shows, why are you so delicious?

  • krystinamarie

    Love reading this every year. Wish you guys would bring back Musical Mondays, even if just once a month or once in a while!

  • http://kingderella.tumblr.com/ kingderella

    woo!

  • Fordzo

    When, exactly, did we go from “poodles” to “kittens”?

    • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

      We used to have a much broader selection of terms of endearment, but I guess like in any relationship you eventually shake down a couple of pet names. My husband tried “pumpkin” and “princess” on me before “crumpet” stuck. Bitter Kitten has such pleasing assonance.

      • Fordzo

        I miss Unborn Fawns.

        • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

          Yes. We do still occasionally get PUFs, which I like.

          • Frank_821

            Yep. I recall that one time when many of the folks were commenting whether they were either a PUF and BK. KInd of like our own Marilyn or Jackie thing.

          • Fordzo

            I’m definitely an Unborn Fawn.

  • http://phantomminuet.blogspot.com/ MinAgain

    Still funny, after all these years.

  • Julie A. Arms Meeks

    Wow, has it really been 7 years? I remember this one the very first time around.

  • alyce1213

    This is classic. I finally got a chance to watch it again, tears are running down my face. I have to say a very touching moment for me is at the end, when Bing tosses the statue/ornament into the tree and kisses Rosemary. Who does that?

    Thanks for reposting.

  • http://www.ueberdesuper.net/ Ueber de Super

    Didn’t the boy on the right also audition for Rupaul’s Drag Race?

  • Fordzo

    2 things let me know that it’s finally Christmas – this post and listening to David Sedaris read from his ‘Santaland Diaries’.

    • Qitkat

      Love DS. The way he reads and tells his stories always cracks me up, even when I’ve heard them many times.

  • Ann VerWiebe

    I swear the Vera Ellen looks like she had her bottom ribs removed. She has 0% body fat.

  • Therese Bohn

    Love this every year! The snow, the buttermilk, Everything! Thanks for our annual Christmas treat, I always share it! <3

    Wish you could bring back Musical Mondays just to do "The Pirate", I'd so love to see that one TLo'ed!

  • http://www.erptraining9.com/ SAP Training

    .Gaggle of gay men. at its best.
    It never fades in its charm.
    Every year I love the way Tlo commentary takes up my senses.
    Now I have a inhaler to cope with the ongoing laughter attack.
    Though I am late here but meant a lot to leave a comment.