Friday T LOunge

Posted on October 25, 2013

Wyld Bar, W Hotel, London

Darlings, we love the nightlife and of course, we’ve got to boogie, so what better setting for our first (of many, we’re thinking) Friday night T LOunges than this disco-fabulous bar? Let’s keep the party going until dawn, Monday morning, shall we? We’ll leave the keys to the place and you can lock up.

Feel free to chat about whatever you want through the weekend, but we’re thinking this would make a lovely spot to watch the Sunday night shows together, as well. We’re always glued to – and live-tweeting –  Homeland and The Walking Dead. If we’re feeling ambitious, we’ll also catch up on Master’s of Sex and Witches of East End. But by all means, if you want to chat your way through Revenge or Once Upon a Time, you kittens should feel free to set that up for here.

In Project Runway news, that was the most utterly depressing reunion special in the history of the show. Not because there was such a high number of crazy, attention-seeking assholes in the cast (more than even we thought, it turns out), but because Tim Gunn, in a total reversal of what used to be his role on the show, literally pitted people against each other to make them fight and then screamed “BULLSHIT!” at them when they claimed the show was rigged. Who one earth thought this was going to go over well? The plot has been lost over there in Project Runway-land, it seems. This is what happens when you shoot too many seasons in too short a time and place too much of an importance on drama and characters. The Real Housewives of Sewing.

And true to our promise, we didn’t watch a bit of Project Runway All-Stars. In a new and exciting development that has us gleeful with anticipation, YOU guys get to tell US what happened on Project Runway last night, because we have absolutely no idea.  Let’s hear your recaps, kittens. Remember all that we taught you.

In non-TV or fashion news, we caught The Conjuring the other night (with the lights off, natch) and holy shit, that’s some good haunted house shit right there.  T Lo recommended. Vera Farmiga is one of the strangest and most charismatic actresses working today and director James Wan keeps the emotional wire taut as a bowstring the whole time and then plucks it furiously and mercilessly to get you to jump out of your seat. Super fun. Better than a half-dozen Paranormal Activity/found footage horror films. Pure old school.We’ve re-watched it twice. And when we say “we,” we mean Tom watched it and informed Lorenzo when he could look up again.

And in other news, we’re having a teeny-tiny little wedding celebration in a few weeks and we’re both excited by it and eager for it all to be over, because of course we planned it right down to the place cards and the color-coordinated candy in the favors. And we only had one small fight that lasted less than five minutes. Then again, that’s what happens when two bridezillas have been together 17 years. You don’t have the energy for a meltdown and besides, the other person will just roll their eyes and walk away if you try it.

And finally, we eat, breathe and sleep our book, which is coming out in February and we just can’t wait for y’all to have a copy (of some sort) in your hands. It’s our baby and we love it and don’t nobody get to say our baby’s ugly.

You will all buy it, right? Because you love us? Completely without shame or dignity here, that’s always been our way and our motto.

So? What’s up with you guys?

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  • PastryGoddess

    Not only will I buy it, but I’m making a road trip up from MD if you guys do a signing.

    I won’t be watching TV this weekend cause I’ll be in VEGAS baby! Anyone wanna be my phone-a-friend for bail money

    • MikeW_Vegas

      Have a great weekend in the REAL city that never sleeps!

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      Yeah Baby!!
      Just remember, the craps tables are hottest after 3am.

    • Stubenville

      Grab a drink on the mezzanine of the chandelier bar at the Cosmopolitan and peek at the hoi polloi below through the Swarofski crystal curtains! I hope you have a blast!

      PS – too broke to be your bail money phone-a-friend, sorry. =(

  • Joan Arkham

    All-Stars is weird and sad and I don’t even know why. It looks like they spent five whole American dollars on it.

    • MikeW_Vegas

      I saw all of 30 seconds of it.. enough to see that Jeffrey Sebalia was on it.. So, I immediately removed it from my TiVo Season pass list.

    • cherbearblue

      It was, however, pretty cool to see Ari. And I would pay very, very good money for a Seth Aaron blazer…doesn’t mean I’ll watch any more though, bleccch

      • Imasewsure

        I would totally buy those plaid pants too. Seth Aaron was my favorite but I also follow the plaid so I was predestined to follow him anyway.

        I didn’t want the season that Ari was on so never saw her before (maybe she was a he then… dunno). The outfit was cute but nothing special. I would have sent Michael home instead but somehow he got a pass for his 80′s disco dress….
        Doubt if I will watch it again either but I was glad I got to see Debbie Harry anyway!

        • mmebam

          Yes, she was Andy on season eight (Mondo’s season). Andy, Mondo, and Gretchen were in the finale.

          • Imasewsure

            Oh thank you. So sad and so typical that I forgot the person who was stuck between Mondo and Gretchen that season! I would have picked a different group for the bottom three this time so sorry to see Ari go!

      • tessasouthworth

        Boy am I late to this party! But, anyway, if anyone is reading this at this late date, during his season Seth Aaron made a gorgeous B & W-blocked cropped jacket during the mother-daughter challenge that was so totally TDF gorgeous that to this day it remains my favorite PR separate. Well, I had my seamstress who is worth her weight in gold copy it for me. It was so intricate that it took her a couple of weeks to complete something the SA whipped up in a day or two.I am still wearing it (every chance I get), and whenever I do, strangers approach me to find out where I bought it!

    • Tracy_Flick

      Yes! It WAS weird and sad. More so than the previous all-stars. I think it’s the inclusion of the winners. It makes it clear what everyone has known for a while – winning PR means nothing. Hearing Seth Aaron (who, IMO, was one of the more talented winners) say he just needed the money was depressing.

      • formerlyAnon

        But props to him for saying it out loud.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        I was on the other side with this. I liked how stripped down it felt. People (mostly) with proven talent, no annoyingly extreme product placement smacking us in the face, it felt more like the original PR. More design, less drama. I liked it.

        • Imasewsure

          You know you are right… the lack of product placement was kind of awesome. The show was dull but not awful and at least for the part I saw, there was no drama except for some happy tears on the runway (tears seem to be a theme with her though). Might watch a second episode if I remember next week…

          • largishbearishAtlish

            Mary Kay as a tie in? if they can rustle up an All Stars next time maybe Sears or Target will have a make-up line….or cross overs! a Ru Paul/ PR might work…’make the outfit out of a drag queens cleavage! or ‘tuckage’…

          • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

            I tried selling Mary Kay for a nano second between jobs when I was very young. That stuff was greasy. I’m not a good sales person anyway, even if the product was better, but I’d never wear it myself.

          • Ginny Ellsworth

            My sister sold Chanel and Lancombe and she loathed Mary Kay. She frightened me out of ever trying it by saying it was made with duck fat. What can I say, she was older than me and I thought she was telling the truth. Gullible Me.

        • Adrianna Grężak

          I agree. I stopped watching PR but tuned in out of curiousity, and I felt that it was better. Granted, I knew Elena was going to win the first episode before she even finished drawing. I’ve watched enough reality TV competitions to know that they are focusing on her past inability to win a challenge for a reason.

          • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

            The winning outfit had to look good on a thicker person or someone with more sophistication than young punk. I can see Debbie Harry choosing the jacket because she could wear it herself.

          • Adrianna Grężak

            I guess I don’t think the jacket is particularly sophisticated, and it was basically the only thing she made.

          • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

            I agree with you about the jacket. I was trying to read the minds of the judges. That jacket was tied with an outfit that was way too young for Debbie Harry. The winning look won because the model suggested she wear it backwards AND a woman of a certain age could wear it.

          • Rhonda Shore

            But don’t forget about all of those neon Stephen Sprouse outfits Debbie wore in the early 80s…that jacket definitely spoke to her sensibilities.

        • CommentsByKatie

          I thought Alyssa Milano was a big part of this change. She had sort of a genuine, eye-rolling sort of delivery, like she knew how stupid the lines were and was apologizing for them, in part. So much better than the previous All Star hosts.

          • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

            I perceived her in a totally different way. I hope your perception turns out to be more correct because I thought she seemed damn foolish. She was too made up with unflattering hair. Her clothes didn’t look good on her, and she seems to take her position awfully seriously. I felt embarrassed for her.

          • zelavie

            ANYONE would have been better than the last All Stars host. Even a rock. And a rock probably would have spoken faster.

        • zelavie

          One of my favorite things was the elimination of Ari. To me, this says “we’re eliminating because she didn’t meet the challenge” instead of “we’ll keep her because she has a story”. A HUGE shift in the right direction.

          • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

            I agree. I was pleasantly surprised.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        I don’t understand how Jeffrey has a children’s clothing line but not Seth Aaron. Seth’s the one who won the kid’s challenge in his season with an utterly adorable girl’s outfit. He needs to look into it.

        • Adrianna Grężak

          Good point! Not surprised Jeffrey has a line, he was all about his kid Season 3

        • manina

          I like Jeffrey. I thought he was an amazing designer and super fast. I know that most people don’t care for him, none of my friends do, but I like him a lot. His children’s clothes line, La Miniatura ( I checked it online), is beautiful.

          • Imasewsure

            I thought he was a bit of a jerk but also kind of straight up which I didn’t mind Plus I’m from LA so got his edge I think. His yellow plaid dress was one of my all-time favorites on PR.
            His personal style this season will be a challenge for me I think but whatever. I like him too.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I was sorry to learn that Seth Aaron needs the $$$, but then it is a reminder of how dificult the fashion biz is, even for talented people.

      • Joan Arkham

        Maybe that’s it. *None* of them seemed really thrilled to be there. More resigned and embarrassed.

      • conniemd

        Totally agree. I always thought Seth Aaron was one of the most talented winners. Perhaps he lacked Sirano’s vision for high end runway, but he should have been able to create a label for very high end department stores like Neiman Marcus as his designs were impeccably tailored, eye catching and made me wish I could have one of them

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          I’d have to do some checking, but I remember Seth Aaron doing something with green or sustainable concepts shortly after he won his season on PR. I don’t know how that turned out;of course, SA also has a family, and he can’t just drop those obligations to pursue the fashion biz.

        • Tracy_Flick

          I actually googled after his season, looking to see if there was anywhere I could buy his stuff. I found some boutique in Portland, but not much more than that.

    • manina

      I liked it, there was no drama; not yet anyway, they are still in their honeymoon. All the garments were well made, although only two and half were punk. I don’t think these designers were aware that there was a such a thing as punk. The least punk were Irina, Korto, Daniel, Michael and Ari.

      • Imasewsure

        It was a tough challenge for the youngsters for sure. You know that Seth Aaron and Jeffrey lived punk and Elena knew enough through her dad to craft a jacket that would appeal to a punk turned Grand Dame (of punk) like Debbie Harry.

      • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

        I was surprised that Seth Aaron did not match the plaids in his pants seams. The crotch had a funny fit as well. I was disappointed; maybe he was having an off day.

    • bitchybitchybitchy

      When Alyssa Milano actually said(tho it was a bit tongue in cheek) “But wait, there’s more”, the shark jumped over the moon and kicked the cow on its way down.

      • CommentsByKatie

        Exactly! I loved how tongue and cheek she was. Like she was was in on the joke. Saved the show, for me.

    • largishbearishAtlish

      and they had 3 past WINNERS? so that means 3 others said no???

      • Claudia

        I was surprised to see 3 past contestants from the same season… I would have thought they’d spread them out a little bit more. I stopped watching after Gretchen/Mondo-gate, so I have no preconceptions about these people, but everyone seems to be on tenterhooks waiting for the girl who won last night’s challenge to lose her shit. Was sad to see Ari go so soon. I love me some Korto, but I kinda thought her dress was no more punk than Ari’s look. Am really wracking my brains….who was the third winner in the lineup? Jeff, Seth-Aaron, and…???

        • zelavie

          Irina

          • Claudia

            Thank you! x

  • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

    Tom & Lorenzo, thank you for this.

    Actually, thank you for this blog, in general. I am not remotely exaggerating when I say it’s my most favorite place on all of the internet. I would facie friend any Bitter Kitten here. Love love love.

    • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

      This, so much this. Let’s drink a toast to T.Lo. I still have a spot of wine in my glass.

      • formerlyAnon

        I don’t yet. But no-one can tell if I’m pouring here at my desk or will raise the glass asynchronously, later.

        • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

          It’s after 11pm where I am, so I’m entitled!

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        Cheers!!

    • hughman

      Asskisser.

      (JK! I know Annabelle IRL and she knows I adore her.)

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        Kissing your ass is how I gots to know you IR, Bitch!!
        Southern Charm is my calling card. And bitchy one liners. <3

      • formerlyAnon

        Y’all stop being cute.

      • marlie

        I’m so jealous that you and Annabelle know each other IRL. You two would be a hoot to hang out with!

        • 3boysful

          I’ve long thought we should have a contest where the prize is drinks with TLo and your 4 favorite BKs . . . .

          • zelavie

            We just need a BK convention. In New York, of course. And with live viewings of PR, Mad Men, etc.

    • marlie

      Ditto a thousand times. xo

  • charlotte

    Of course we will all buy the book and it will beat the Humans of New York book on the NY Times bestseller list. Does that sound like a plan?

    • formerlyAnon

      Actually, IS there a strategic way to time purchases to maximize chances of hitting and staying on the NYT list? Everybody pre-order who can? Do those all hit at once? Or is there some secret optimal week after release when books in XYZ category tend to peak, & everyone needs to buy gifts of the book in that week? Publishing/marketing/authoring BKs? Tips?

      [Austin]

      • muzan-e

        Also curious. Because I’m buying one for me (just to have) and one for my soon-to-be-teenage daughter. You guys are amongst the most empowering, bullshit-free reads for girls that I know of.

      • DamiaRain

        If I remember correctly from the release of the final Wheel of Time book, eBooks sales don’t get counted in NYT best seller numbers (so their answer was to delay the release of the eBook – initially for like a year (!!!) until all the people were like WTF?!) Of course, I think best seller lists need to get it together and start counting eBooks because (a) they’re not going away and (b) the gotta be making up a huge portion of sales!

        PS Can’t wait til February!!!

        • Kate4queen

          yes they do now, there is a separate list for ebooks, and a combined e and print list both for fiction and non-fiction. And don’t forget USA Today, which also has a best seller list. The key to hitting a list is to buy or download the book in the first week of publication so that the sales are all lumped together. (I think pre-orders count on the first day of release too) And it depends on which month the book comes out as to the chances of hitting a list. some months you need a lot more sales than others. :)
          (brought to you by your favorite BK author person)

          • formerlyAnon

            Thank-you!

    • StillGary

      will this be available in Cincinnati?

  • SaraQ

    Already preordered!

    • Margaret Nikoleit

      Ditto! Since when you first shared the book jacket and we could.

  • formerlyAnon

    Plotting to insert not so subliminal book tour stop suggestions in my rather too copious comments. [Austin]

    • boweryboy

      [Seattle]

      • formerlyAnon

        I’m jealous. I suspect your odds are better.

        • boweryboy

          I can only hope!

        • Lori

          I will back you up on getting TLo to visit Austin. I loved my trip there. The food was great, the music was great, I ran along the river & that was great and the bats were one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.

          • formerlyAnon

            Though in good conscience I can’t recommend May-September if you’re going to be outside much, except for swimming in Barton Springs, our spring-fed pool/swimming hole.
            [Fortunately, AUSTIN has air conditioning.]

          • marlie

            I’ve been to Barton Springs! It was cool!

    • muzan-e

      [Hot Springs]

      [ ... Arkansas]

      [..... would you believe it's surprisingly cosmopolitan and pleasant here?]

      • formerlyAnon

        I believe you. [Austin]. I know people who’ve gone there on vacation, and they weren’t even visiting friends or relatives.

        [Austin]

        • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

          I’ve only spent time in the clubs in Austin, while briefly working out of Round Rock, but I loved it there!

          • formerlyAnon

            I haven’t been in a club except to see a band featuring one of my kids or one of their friends in at least 5 years, I’m getting old. But there’s a ton of great community, semi-pro & professional performance in other venues, an awesome weekly Poetry Slam and a boat load of touring stuff that comes in via the University of Texas.

          • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

            ’twas a former life.

          • formerlyAnon

            They do stack up on one, those former lives, don’t they?

          • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

            Add to that, my subscription to the theory of ongoing parallel universes, with a dash of the multiple people living in my head thrown in, and you start to understand my own special crazy.

          • formerlyAnon

            I haven’t heard anything that sounds crazy, yet. My personal version of “6 degrees to Kevin Bacon” is the closest I come to your parallel universe thing. After discovering yet another weird connection between two people who seemingly had nothing to do with each other, except that I’d known one forever and had just met the other, I theorized back in the ’80s that there are only about 600 real people in the U.S., the rest being very convincing holographic constructs. I might be willing to raise the figure to 800, given all the children born since then. [Austin]

        • MarshaMarz

          I just moved here to retire — There are so many vintage and thrift shops, coffee houses, book stores, all kinds of places to eat, all kinds of places to experience – I came here to change the politics and enjoy life

      • UsedtobeEP

        I have had the pleasure of staying in Hot Springs. I stayed in one of the Bathhouse Row hotels. The massage/hot spring treatment I got there was unreal. I think it almost killed me but in a really good way. I felt like a bowl of pudding afterwards.

      • Judy_J

        I love Hot Springs! I lived in Arkansas for several years (North Little Rock and Hebert Springs). It is a beautiful place.

    • Suzanne Moore

      [Tucson] You’ll love it here in February! No winter overcoats needed. Just plenty of Sonoran Desert sun and blue, blue skies.

      • Emmiejaye

        Don’t forget the Gem Show and the Rodeo!

    • OpinionatedMtnGirl

      [Telluride]

      If TLo could the other 2499 folks in this town to care about fashion I would be extremely grateful!

    • Renaissance_Man_ATL

      Atlanta!

      • zelavie

        Ditto Atlanta! No way they’ll go where I live, so the ATL is probably my best shot. And then I can go shop at Ikea.

  • formerlyAnon

    Also: ordered.

    [Austin]

    • GenieinTX

      Another Austinite here. Oh, could you just imagine it? Austin bitter kittens after party at some fab lounge? Brown Bar would be nice.

      • formerlyAnon

        The Mohawk & Spiderhouse Ballroom are the only places I’ve gone with any regularity in past years – and while marvelous in their way, I’m not sure they count as “fab lounge” material. You & others have to choose.

      • Judy_J

        Yes! The Brown Bar! Perfect!

        • formerlyAnon

          I’m down. We can have name tags with our screen names.

  • Denise Alden

    Love you two, and thanks for sharing. I second Annabelle in that yours is my happy internet place!

  • cherbearblue

    Ordered! [CHICAGO!]

    • Margaret Nikoleit

      Another vote for Chicago! Plus you’ll get my boss and several colleagues who all love this blog.

  • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

    I hope there will be a fabulous book tour, and it had better include Atlanta. I will be first in line for an autographed copy!

    • formerlyAnon

      Jeez. You’re so close & in such a big city it’s almost inevitable.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        Fingers are double crossed. Though I don’t know if I could even utter out who I am. I’d be ridiculously shy, and nervous.

        • formerlyAnon

          Well of course. How ELSE does one feel meeting somebody one’s previously never met face-to-face, let alone someone whose work one admires and appreciates. But unless struck with simultaneous blinding migraines I can’t imagine TLo being anything other than warm & gracious, no matter how Awkward Turtle one’s being. I imagine they’ll get a lot of it, if they DO do a book tour.

          • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

            Maybe I can make a Tshirt with my Avatar? Totally dork it out!!

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I called in once when TLo were on Sirius radio and they were absolutely lovely-warm, kind and fun.

    • alyce1213

      Keeping my fingers crossed that the tour includes the Barnes & Noble in Union Sq, NYC. It’s huge and they do a lot of signings there. Whatever will I wear?

      • formerlyAnon

        You KNOW if they sign anywhere outside of Philly they’ll be in NYC.

        • conniemd

          I live in Northeastern PA, which means I can take a bus to NYC for the day or down to Philly and if people want to get together for a signing and lunch I am totally down for it. I was at a get together for a book signing with friends from my Viggo Mortensen fan message board and it was a great experience meeting new people with common interests.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I’m in the MD suburbs of DC, taking Amtrak to Philly or NYC for a booksigning and meet up would be great.

            A Viggo Mortensen fan message board? Where have I been, in a cave?

          • conniemd

            Viggo is so not a pole dancer and avoids blockbuster movies (other than LOTR) that we never get fashion pics of him. But he is such a beautiful man, I hope we get some of his pics on Sausage Friday when he promotes “The Two Faces of January”

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            He is indeed beautiful. Did you see him and Fassbender in “A Dangerous Method”? I like to think of it as the thinking woman’s fantasy movie-two handsome men in an intellectual bromance about Freud and Jung…

  • R.A.

    Of course we will buy it Uncles. We adore you.

  • MilaXX

    Honey that book was bought the minute it showed up on Smazon. My scary limit lies somewhere between a files, Sleepy Hollow & Stephen Aking’s IT. No Conjuring for me. I’ll pop in to chat about TWD and maybe Once Upon a Time.

    • formerlyAnon

      Can agree with all of the above. Conjuring sounds like No Fun At All for wimps.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      I have watched 2 (3?) Sleepy Hollows, it’s sort of calling me back, but not screaming yet. It’s going to be a cold weekend, I predict lots of coffee and snuggles, I hope to catch up with some Parenthood, SH and maybe now the Lifetime witches show, since it’s getting good word around here.

    • muzan-e

      Horror might be my thing, but IT absolutely hit me in my wee little vulnerable spots: there were two segments of that film that I watched literally between my fingers, whimpering quietly in the dark. *g* Sleepy Hollows, though – oh, I wanted to love it, but I think I spend too much of it longing for costume porn.

      • MilaXX

        I slept with the lights on. As a kids I was terrified of sewers for some reason, so having a scary killer clown come up out of them and grab children was all my nightmares come home to roost.
        Sleepy Hollow is really good. I prefer it to Marvel Agents of Shield. I wish they;d drop the dead wife though. The show almost has an X-files like feel to me and every time dead wife appears it feels like a big old needle scratch to me. John Noble from Fringe will be in upcoming episodes. I can’t wait.

    • demidaemon

      I’ll probably be watching tonight because a) it’s the Halloween special, which is always fun and b) my local CW channel isn’t showing ANTM and has replaced it this week with some IheartRadio crap. Boo.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

    Speaking of “The Conjuring”, has anyone else seen “My Amityville Horror”? The real Lorraine Warren is in there and, wow. When she brings out her cross that has a piece of the real cross…wow.

  • Shawn EH

    That’s it, the Conjuring goes on the DVD must-have list. Couldn’t get into Vera as Momma Bates, but scary movies I can do!

  • lexilexi

    Ordered. I live in Palo Alto, so…. please sign here or SF? or Berkeley? or Santa Cruz? You name it.

    • random_poster

      I’m in South Bay Area, so anywhere between SF and Santa Cruz would be awesome!

    • Trish

      I’m in Palo Alto/Mtn View so…ditto!

  • Tracy_Flick

    PR All-Stars: It was all worth it to see Debbie Harry give bitch face. And I DIED when Georgina Chapman told DH what was punk and what wasn’t. It’s not like Blondie was the epitome of the punk scene, but it’s a damn sight closer than Marchesa,

    But for real:

    Chains, safety pins, leather, grommets. Blah blah blah. The challenge wasn’t that interesting and neither were the clothes.

    • MilaXX

      Loved when Debbie reminded them that this wasn’t real punk but a stylized fashion version of punk

    • Imasewsure

      That was funny and I loved that Debbie said nothing in return…. why waste your breath on what the “Gorgeous Georgina Chapman” thinks? Pretty cool too that she is going to wear that jacket… now THAT is something for your design CV!

    • Adrianna Grężak

      Agree, the challege kind of made me cringe. Some of the designers clearly made their career on the aesthetic, but it’s the complete opposite of the judges’ styles

  • siriuslover

    I love, love, love this post!

  • W A

    I agree that All-Stars was kind of sad for some reason. But Debbie Harry! What a great guest judge. That made it worth it.

    • Imasewsure

      I think the judges don’t help either… they are not very interesting and it’s another boring host. Better or worse than the last one who I couldn’t pick out of a line up? Dunno….

  • RL McGruder

    Ordered! (sotto voce: please come to Austin.)

  • SuzyQuzey

    I liked Alexandria’s complete dismissal of the drama at the reunion. Even when fully baited, she passed.

    On PRAllStars, the most obvious thing was the cheek implants on Irina. Bad choice.

    • Saturnine

      Agree on Alexandria. “Flames . . . Flames . . . On the side of my face . . . ”
      It takes serious fortitude (it would for me, anyway) not to jump the couch and throw down.

    • Lisa_Co

      Did anyone read the BPR interview with Alexandria? She actually called Zac out several times, saying he disrespected her because he never got her name right (he called her Alexandra not Alexandria). Not sure that was a smart move on her part.

    • calimon

      I’m glad she was placed sitting *above* those two catty bitches.

    • Qitkat

      And Tim “refereeing” the baiting was particularly offensive.

  • UsedtobeEP

    OK, so get this. I talked the male of the house into making dinner, and he thinks I am upstairs swapping winter clothes for summer ones, when in virtual reality I am drinking with you guys. Aren’t I clever? (Until he walks back into the living room, or one of the kids asks me for something again.)

  • Fordzo

    My son needs a cup for taekwon-do. Where do I buy one, how do I know what size and how does he wear it? Does it go IN his underwear?

    • Judy_J

      Any reputable athletic supply store can help you with this. Just tell them what you need. They will fix you up.

      • Fordzo

        The only sporting good store near me is the aptly named Dicks.

        • Judy_J

          I had to take care of this little chore when my son started Little League. I had no idea what to ask for.

          • Fordzo

            Ah, yes. Just another one of the things I didn’t know I was signing up for.

        • MilaXX

          lol, name aside it’s a good chain. They will have it or be able to order the correct one.

    • SayWTH

      He actually wears it outside his gii and it will be foam, not the hard plastic in the cotton that we enjoy seeing in such classic movies as “Slapstick” lol. It will only be put on when sparring along with the rest of his gear. I am surprised that his instructors don’t have a “kit” to buy. My son’s Grand Master has an entire sparring gear thing that they all get helmet, chest pad, cup, shin and elbow pads in a duffel bag that we got when we signed up (and again when he grew too big and had to order new stuff) Anyway, make sure you tell them it is for taekwon do – not football! :-)

  • hughman

    My “PR : All Stars” recap :

    Contestants : Oh her, her, who is that?, HER?, oh please, gross, who is THAT?, etc.

    Not Tim Gunn (NTG) comes out and blah blah blah. NO IMMUNITY EVER. Thank the baby jesus, we can just lop off this dead weight quickly.

    Debbie Harry : making music before these queens ever saw clothes. Also, Blondie was NEW WAVE, NOT PUNK.

    Sewing : they are forced to sew at Mood because “reasons”. Ugly shit, ugly shit, ugly shit, etc.

    Runway : Absofuckinglutely nothing to do with “punk”. The end. Also, MAKEUP BY MARY KAY. Yikes. NTG announces the prizes are your own kingdom and slaves in hell.

    Judging : Georgina talks too much. Blah, blah, blah, etc.

    Result : “Least likely to be remembered” gets voted off.

    The end.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      Also the recap of the new hostess: Still talks too slowly, could not stop her eyes from rolling when saying “the Beautiful Georgina Chapman.”

    • Inspector_Gidget

      LOL. QVC and Mary Kay! Next season the winner will receive a photo spread in Family Circle.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        With make-up from the Wet ‘n Wild collection from your local CVS.

    • MilaXX

      I think it’s in her contract that Georgina Chapman must be introduced as the “gorgeous Georgina Chapman”. I howled when Alyssa announced her last night with an eyeroll.

    • marlie

      My only disagreement is that a contestant with one of the more interesting back stories got the boot first.

      • formerlyAnon

        I am not sure whether to suspect that it was not a backstory Lifetime wanted to dwell on, or that she (Ari) made it clear that she wasn’t going to have her life choices turned into a dumbed-down and sensationalized PR backstory, and that made her expendable.

        Funny that the possibility that her auf’ing had nothing to do with unreal reality show drama doesn’t even cross my mind.

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          I hadn’t thought about Ari not wanting her gender change to become fodder for the storyline gremlins at PR, but that is a possibility.

      • zelavie

        See, for me that’s a plus. Through my rose-colored glasses, it looks like they eliminated someone because they didn’t meet the challenge rather than keeping them just for their story. I’ll probaby be proven wrong in a week or two, but I was pretty happy about that bit.

        • marlie

          Maybe. I think there were other contestants’ whose work was even worse at meeting the terms of the challenge. And he general consensus seems to be that the wrong person was given the win (and that the win seemed a bit contrived).

          On the other hand, it WAS the first episode, and the first few are almost always about sorting the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. I’m certainly going to give it a little time, but I don’t have too much faith in the producers.

          • zelavie

            Agreed that there were worse garments (DANIEL), and Ari probably wasn’t the worst of them all. I think she was the right choice out of the bottom 3, but there were some safe designers who should have been there instead (DANIEL).

    • Imasewsure

      Great recap. You have made our uncles proud I’m sure and also definitely described the good, the bad and the ugly about the show.

      Gotta disagree about one thing though: Debbie Harry was definitely part of the NYC punk scene although you are right that Blondie was more New Wave than punk, especially in the 80′s. Loved them. Love(d) her!

    • Lisa_Co

      Also with about only 2 seconds of critique from that chirpy twit Zanna Rassi, there is no real mentoring on the show now apparently.

    • SayWTH

      Perfect!
      2 things that made me go WTH? 1) Even though they were using Mary Kay cosmetics (remind me to show you my engagement photo taken when I was MOH at my sister’s wedding. All makeup done by MK consultants and my dad told me I looked like a hooker!) it still looked like the same make up artist from L’Oreal with the mutton chops was in charge or did I imagine him? and 2) They were spraying HAIR SPRAY – and other hair gunk – in MOOD around the FABRICS that people (other than PR contestants) might want to purchase! That stuff doesn’t just go neatly on your hair, it flies everywhere!! What were they thinking???

    • guest2visits

      Thankyou; NEW WAVE is the description I was looking for!
      All work and no play – I lived right through it all with no time to socialize. I just listened to the radio and tapes I bought. I wouldn’t have known new wave from new romantic or British mod.

  • Imasewsure

    Re All Stars:

    I totally missed The Real Housewives of Sewing (tee hee) but the Allstars was worth watching just to see the hilariously pretentious ways in which the various contestants dressed and styled and re-purposed themselves again for the camera. Jeffrey was the clear winner since he looked RIDICULOUS… Can’t find the right words to describe it… Hipster Huck Finn? Hipster Hitler/Mark Twain?

    • Sheokaf

      He says on lifetime he dressed “for comfort” he looks like my grandpa back in the 70′s.

  • Judy_J

    I watched the PR reunion show, and it made me very uncomfortable. Then I subjected myself to PR All-Stars, and I’ll be damned if I can remember who was aufed. I’m having my new favorite cocktail, Topo Chico and Deep Eddy Ruby Red Grapefruit vodka. Great start to a lovely weekend. The only show I’m addicted to that airs during the weekend is Boardwalk Empire. It just gets better and better.

    • formerlyAnon

      I’ve been drinking seltzer, grapefruit juice & gin, lately. Yours sounds like something I can make when I’m having to share. (My friends look at me funny when I say ‘”grapefruit juice & gin.” Can’t see why.)

      Also: Topo Chico & Deep Eddy vodka; might you also be voting for a certain special city [Austin] on the book tour?

      • Judy_J

        Absolutely! Bookpeople here has many book signings…I have books signed by Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Also Stephan Pastis. I’d love to have Tom & Lorenzo visit here in Austin!

        • formerlyAnon

          I know, Book People is where their signing should be! (Though I’m sure that’s a business decision, not one under the command of Internet enthusiasts.)

          • Judy_J

            We could bombard them with requests that they bring TLo in. Austin is the perfect venue.

    • Lisa_Co

      Transgendered Ari, formerly Andy, South (S8) was auffed. I think her backstory was simply too “real” because her non punk shorts weren’t any worse than what Daniel, Korto or Mychael produced.

      I thought Elena’s outfit was overrated (I liked SA’s the best). Since Debby Harry was pretty stone faced during the runway, i was surprised she said she’d wear it. But the judging was pretty subdued with Isaac thankfully pretty quiet.

      • demidaemon

        No, they were better. Daniel’s look was the suit he won the first challenge of PRS11 with some pink fringy shit tacked on.

        • formerlyAnon

          Always avoid clothing with “some pink fringy shit” strikes me as important life advice.

          • demidaemon

            Indeed!

        • Imasewsure

          Daniel, Korto and Mychael were my bottom three although Ari’s wasn’t punk either. I would have sent Mychael home for his disco inspired “punk” look

          • Alloy Jane

            Disco-inspired punk look? Oxymoron. I mean, punk was in retaliation to New Wave and especially Disco, so it’s a little bit hilarious that Debbie Harry was the guest judge. I’m not sure I want to watch it even though I love SA’s stuff. And I never hated Jeffery, even though he was bad-mannered. I loved his work as well. Imagine his yellow plaid dress on Iman. How fabulous would that be?

      • Adrianna Grężak

        Agree about Elena vs Seth Aaron. His work is incredibly impressive

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I didn’t stick around for the aufing, but I’m not surprised that Ari is out. It was a well executed design, but it didn’t read punk. It’s a shame, since Ari made the final three in Season 8.

    • MilaXX

      I just caught up on Boardwalk Empire. I love Jefferey Wright so much!

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        Have you ever seen “Ride with the Devil”? Jeffrey Wright had a featured role in that and he is simply incredible. The film was directed by Ang Lee, stars Toby McGuire, Simon Baker, was dumped by the studio, which was criminal. It’s excellent, and worth seeing for Wright alone.

        • MilaXX

          No I haven’t I’ll check and see if it’s on netflix

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I hope it is-Jonathan Rhys Myers also has a featured role.

        • Lisa_Co

          I saw it a few years ago during an Ang Lee retrospective at Lincoln Center. (Lee was there and did a Q&A afterwards). It was a good movie – well worth renting. And I love Jeffrey Wright!

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I would have loved to have been there for the film and the Q and A with Ang Lee. He’s on my short list of favorite directors.

    • Adrianna Grężak

      LOVE BOARDWALK EMPIRE. What’s your opinion about Season 4 – very different tone from Season 3.

      • Judy_J

        It’s definitely darker. I’m so sad about Eddie. That was a shock. I’m impressed with the way the writers keep each episode fresh and interesting.

        • Adrianna Grężak

          I’m happy that there’s a break from all the violent murders (ie: Gyp Rosseti). I also find it interesting that this season isn’t heavily following Nucky (there have been a couple of episodes where he was barely in them), but developing the supporting characters more.

          I loved Eddie too, and I think the writers were in tune to his fandom. But I think the suicide made sense for his character, and Agent Knox (whatever his real name is, haha) did in fact find the weakest link in Nucky’s circle.

          • Judy_J

            What did you think of this week’s episode? My dislike of Agent Knox is growing by leaps and bounds.

          • Adrianna Grężak

            For a minute there my boyfriend and I thought that Chalky was going to meet his demise, b/c of the funeral song. I wonder what Daughter Maitland’s motivation is in all of this, since she essentially was instructed to lead Chalky to his death, but then ultimately saved him.

            I’m happy that Boardwalk Empire is exploring different types of villians. Gyp Rosseti was kind of the stereotypical violent mobster, whereas Agent Knox and Narcisse have very ideological motives.

            Also, Shea Whigham (Eli Thompson) is one of my favorite actors on the show!

          • Judy_J

            Eli has emerged as my favorite character, too! I hate that he is being blackmailed by Agent Knox. I wonder if he will tell Nucky and double-cross Knox. I sure hope so! I think when Daughter was singing to Chalky and saw that the song brought tears to his eyes, she realized she really had feelings for him and couldn’t go through with what Narcisse wanted her to do. Of course, now Narcisse will realize that Daughter disobeyed him, and there will be hell to pay. From the previews, it looks like next week will take place mostly in Chicago.

          • Adrianna Grężak

            Yeah, I watched the “Inside the Episode” clip online after I posted my comment (re: Daughter Maitland) and it’s basically what the producer explained.

            I’m curious if the writers created a complex plan or if Eli made a straightfoward decision.

            I wonder if Boardwalk Empire will wrap up at least one of the subplots. All of the storylines are interesting, but it seems like the show is juggling a lot, and the Gillian story seems a bit disconnected. Margaret’s barely been on the show in comparison.

            Btw, the Afterbuzz Boardwalk Empire podcast is pretty good

          • Judy_J

            I’ll check it out. I’m with you re: Gillian & Roy Phillips. Not quite sure where that is going. I’d like to see more Richard, too. I’m in awe of the writers. They are doing a stellar job of keeping the characters and plot lines believable and interesting. I can’t wait for next Sunday!

        • AnneElliot

          And where is Margaret this season? I realize she’s in New York, but she’s barely getting any screen time!!!

  • LJCdoc

    All Stars: I’m meh on whether I’m going to watch this. The plus: They actually showed them sewing, and what they were thinking of when they made design decisions. Other plusses: ummm. Korto is on it?

    Minus: Everything else: Ari got offed for something that was “too polished”, and for being “too in her head”, which I don’t even know what that means. Meanwhile Elena got the win for the same thing (very polished), for stealing her model’s idea of turning her jacket backwards, and for making something that looked like “2013″, while Jeffrey was in the top for making something that looked like 1985. Daniel killed Abby Cadabby and used her carcass as a belt, and was safe anyway. Victor was in the bottom, also for making something too polished.

    • Lisa_Co

      I really liked Viktor’s jacket and thought grommets were a great idea. But floral pants for punk??? Not so much.

      • LJCdoc

        True, but the vast majority of what was on that runway didn’t seem very punk, and at least his pants were cute and well made. I think Daniel should have been in the bottom.

        • Lisa_Co

          Daniel DEFINITELY should have been in the bottom and IMO the one auffed. Also wasn’t his season just 6 months ago? That’s too soon to be on my TV screen again.

          • LJCdoc

            I could not agree more with all of this.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I didn’t understand who would possibly wear Daniel’s design- a basic black pantsuit with a gaudy pink fringe belt? Mourning wear for Blanche Devereaux, perhaps?

        • Imasewsure

          Floral “cute and well made” is just about the exact opposite of punk. Agreed about Daniel though. Not good

    • OrigamiRose

      I love Korto but suspect she will end up like Uli: Always a bridesmaid.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        I believe she will be giving zero fucks this season. She seems like she is going to be shooting straight and cutting through the bullshit. Bless her.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

          I hope she takes down some of those noobs a notch. Enjoy that, Elena.

        • Adrianna Grężak

          The editors clearly love Korto – she has all the great zingers that transition into/from commercial break

  • Stubenville

    I caught the last few minutes of the All Attention Whores Stars last night. Dear God, MARY KAY is supplying the makeup? Who’s doing hair product – Tresemme?

    • Fordzo

      Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific!

      Please! Someone else remember this along with me.

      • formerlyAnon

        I can recall. I am also ancient of days.

        If I recall correctly, there were a lot of ads featuring 20-somethings portraying teens in which clean cut male model-ish boys were obsessively fixated on the terrific smell of some relentlessly blond girl’s hair.

        • Fordzo

          It was always a relentless blonde.

          And what was that shampoo where the commercial went something like “You tell two friends and so on and so on…” I think it had wheat on the bottle?

          • StillGary

            two different shampoos but the latter premise went on to become a disturbing STD PSA.

          • formerlyAnon

            Google says: Faberge Organics with Wheat Germ Oil!!
            There appears to be a 1972 ad for it featuring Farrah Fawcett on Youtube, though I didn’t watch ti.

          • Fordzo

            Wheat Germ Oil! Now they’d need a Gluten Free version.

          • Imasewsure

            Back when Faberge was a “high end” beauty product! And that’s why our hair always looked like crap in the 70′s…

          • SouthernGirlRena

            Faberge Organics Shampoo with a young Farrah Fawcett. (Full Confession, I Googled it, my memory is not that good).

          • formerlyAnon

            Jinx!

          • Kit_W

            Heh! Jihrmac! (sp?)

            ‘You’ll tell two friends, and they’ll tell two friends, and so on, and so on, and so on….” as the screen splits into 32 little squares of the same chica with a Farrah Fawcett hairdo.
            I always felt like I was suddenly watching tv through a spiders eyes whenever that one came on..

      • Stubenville

        Unfortunately LemonUp! is no longer made.

        (Yea, I’m that old.)

        • Fordzo

          Or Breck.

          • Stubenville

            I remember the “girl next door” Breck models. The whitest women on planet Earth.

          • Fordzo

            What about veterinarian-in-training Donna Alexander?! Unfortunately, she’s the only one I can name who wasn’t blonde.

          • Stubenville

            Oh I don’t remember her; I was thinking of late 50′s early 60′s ads which all seemed to feature platinum blond sorority sisters in angora sweaters and pearls.(As I recall.)

          • formerlyAnon

            Tangential factoid: I was slightly acquainted college with a girl who’d been Miss Teen New Jersey and one of the prizes was a print ad as a Breck girl. She did have the hair for it. (I think she ultimately became a lawyer.)

          • Stubenville

            I am so stealing “tangential factoid” from you. =)

          • formerlyAnon

            Be my guest. Tangential factoids make up an excessive proportion of my conversation.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I love tangential factoids. I once brought down the house by casually bringing in a tangential factoid from the movie “Clueless”-totally nonplussed the gorgeous man sitting across the table from me, which made my day.

          • formerlyAnon

            This sounds like a story worth hearing over a drink.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            It was great fun, especially because Mr. Gorgeous was a very cool, composed sort, and totally nonplussing him was wonderful.

          • AnneElliot

            In my house we call it birdwalking, stolen from my daughter’s third grade teacher. However I’ll now be substituting “tangential factoid.”

          • OrigamiRose

            Bring back Body on Tap! Surely, the craft beer shampoo market would be a gold mine.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Weren’t they, though? Do you remember Kim Basinger as a Breck girl?

          • sisterb67

            After we use our LemonUp or Breck, we can slap on some Tickle deodorant, clean our faces with Bonne Bell 10-0-6, and then do our makeup by applying some Maybelline Kissing Potion. (Then we’ll put in our teeth, grab our canes, and chase some kids off the lawn…)

          • sisterb67

            Steubenville, if you’re willing to pay $15 for a bottle, you can still get LemonUp from The Vermont Country Store’s website!

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            Damn it. I didn’t read far enough down and said the same thing!

          • Fordzo

            Don’t forget to splash on some Jean Nate or Love’s Baby Soft.

          • sisterb67

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Or maybe some Wind Song or Enjoli? Man oh Manischewtiz, those were the good old days.

          • Fordzo

            And get drunk on peach schnapps. Is peach schnapps still a gateway alcohol?

          • sisterb67

            Oh yeah. Bring on the Fuzzy Navels.

          • Fordzo

            We weren’t sophisticated enough to drink Fuzzy Navels. I just remember that at every dance/basketball game/pep rally, someone snuck in a bottle of peach schnapps. But I don’t know why it was peach schnapps? Maybe because it’s sweet? No one ever smuggled in whisky or vodka.

          • sisterb67

            Peach schnapps is booze equivalent of a tricycle :)

          • Fordzo

            Like I said…a gateway alcohol.

          • Fordzo

            Oh! I also remember one time my friend snuck a bottle of creme de menthe from her parent’s liquor cabinet. I can vividly remember the taste after first taking a sip of peach schnapps and then a sip of creme de menthe as the bottles were passed around. It should have been totally gross, but it was the flavor of my youth. I’m going to go buy a couple bottles, put on Stairway to Heaven, and feel 16 again.

          • Imasewsure

            And Alberto VO5!!

          • 1964edithgrove

            We still have a fossilized tube of VO5 in our odds and ends drawer.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          If you go to the Vermont Country Store website you can get both Gee Your Hair Smells Terrifice and Lemon Up! (Both of which I used in my youth.)

    • OrigamiRose

      I don’t believe you. You’re joking, right? Mary Effin’ Kay?

      YOU LIE!

      • Stubenville

        I would not lie to you. Google it babe! F-IN MARY KAY!

        • Fordzo

          Maybe the winner will get a pink Cadillac?

          • Stubenville

            ROTFLMAO! Do they still do that for their top sales people? Who the hell wants a titty pink Cadillac?

          • Fordzo

            In my area, there is someone with a pink Mary Kay Cadillac and someone else with a pink Mary Kay Jeep Cherokee.

          • OrigamiRose

            Ugh. Even visualizing those dredges up unpleasant memories of having the office Mary Kay pusher corner me about the products. It was worse than the annal Girl Scout Cookie shakedown. How do you say, “I don’t put crap on my face?” without sounding like a colossal bitch?

          • Fordzo

            They all ooo and ahhh over the hand stuff, too. I think it’s a set with some exfoliator and a lotion? It smells like an old lady. And not a hot old lady, I mean a dusty old lady.

          • OrigamiRose

            All of the products smell awful. I don’t know what creates the nasty stank in their lipsticks but it’s foul. And the worst mistake to make is to assume by breaking down and giving a courtesy order you’ll get them off your back (rookie first-job error). It took me years to shake the MK lady in the office.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Mary Kay reminds me of the old Merle Norman makeup stores in malls. I once went with a friend, and once I was home I swear I almost needed a hammer and chisel to get that stuff off my face.

          • Katesymae

            My (now ex-) sister-in-law had a Mary Kay party as part of her bachelorette festivities (in 2012! Not 1982!). How can you say, “I don’t put crap on my face?” AND “I’m not buying stupid shit just because it’s your wedding?” at once without sounding like a bitch?

            The answer is: you can’t. The bottom shelf of my vanity cabinet will forever be inhabited by a Mary Kay TimeWise skin set that I don’t want to use yet feel guilty throwing away.

          • OrigamiRose

            Yikes. Can you donate it to charity?

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Wow-who thought that was a good idea for a bachelorette party?

          • marlie

            No lie, I saw someone driving a powder pink Caddy SUV with a Mary Kay logo on the window not a week ago. I was kind of surprised that they still did that. The car was a fairly new model, so it had to be recent.

        • OrigamiRose

          Oh. My. God. This is lower than I realized it was possible to sink.

          • Stubenville

            Yea, missed you and Bee last night since there wasn’t a lounge. Can you imagine the chorus of WTF that would have gone up?

          • OrigamiRose

            I would say “Disqus would have imploded” but it takes so little to make that happen ;)

            At least we have a Friday lounge!!!

          • MilaXX

            Disqus did implode. At least for me. It stopped loading for me and I got a message saying it was down for maintenance until around 9am this morning.

          • OrigamiRose

            They really need to check the prime time television schedule before planning maintenance upgrades.

            The trolls on CNN must have been going bonkers without an outlet to spew hate all evening. I guess that’s a plus :)

          • formerlyAnon

            There was a lounge of sorts – TLo invited us to go at it if we wished on the last post of the day – but it was not obvious. Next week, maybe?

          • Eric Stott

            possibly…

      • MilaXX

        Mary Kay has been trying to step out of their old lady reputation. They had a brief collaboration with celebrity makeup artist Sam Fine. I bought a eye shadow & lipstick from that collection, it’s nice. However Queen LaTifah & Covergirl wooed him away from that. I’m sure the collaboration with Project Runway is another attempt to move away from old ladies in pink Cadillacs.

    • Fordzo

      This makes it safe to assume that Reese Witherspoon will not be appearing as a guest judge, considering her contract with Avon. So maybe I’ll watch now that I know Reese won’t show up.

    • artjournallife

      … or Suave?

      • Inspector_Gidget

        Pert!

        • dharmabum8

          Vo5!

          • Stubenville

            Alberto, is that you? =)

    • bitchybitchybitchy

      I suppose it could be worse-they could be sponsored by whoever makes the shampoo that gives Nicole Scherzinger orgasms in those awful commercials.

    • Alloy Jane

      Haven’t they been a sponsor before? I mean, isn’t the makeup usually L’oreal?

  • pismire

    I was entertained by the PR Reunion. I had never seen Tim Gunn with his claws out before. There TIm Gunn was trying to stir the shit between the contestants and he ended up on the defensive about the production company and their manipulations. Before that, when afterschoolspecial and the back-stabbing brittle one were having their back and forth, I didn’t know who to root for because I disliked both of them so much. At least afterschoolspecial has the excuse of youth, she owned her cattiness (if not her drama queen-ness) and she had forged friendships with several of the other designers. So yeah, I guess I am team afterschoolspecial in that dust-up.

    As for the new All Stars, I am already looking forward to next season which will be sponsored by Arby’s and the makeup provided by the discount bin at a local CVS. The results of the challenge were uniformly between okay and pretty damn good. Yelena was incredibly lucky to be handed the win by her model, who suggested turning the jacket around backwards. Way to take full credit for someone else’s idea Yelena. I thought Seth Aaron was the clear winner, but Deborah Harry really wanted that jacket and and who are any of us to tell Deborah Harry she can’t have the damn jacket? Exactly.

    • formerlyAnon

      “sponsored by Arby’s and the makeup provided by the discount bin at a local CVS”

      You’ve nailed the trend perfectly.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        Designers, your challenge is to create a chic, fashion forward yet comfortable outfit for driving through the Arby’s drive-thru.

    • Stubenville

      And the following season it will be coupons redeemable at a dollar store. Or the change found under the couch cushions in the green room.

      • Fordzo

        Tokens! Bus tokens!

      • Imasewsure

        Too bad they didn’t think to use the Dollar Store for fabrics instead of Mood. Epic (discount) fail!!

    • Fordzo

      I’m hoping Wet ‘n Wild will do the makeup in a upcoming season.

      • Saturnine

        Or Artmatic: Purple eye shadow!

    • Fordzo

      Please God, let there be a Payless Shoe Source accessory wall.

  • StillGary

    Still a little sad that I won’t read “Insane from the Ukraine” on this blog (soeth I quoteth) — OK, you missed that Blooondi was very big Eastern Europe and Jeffrey is not aging well. (I’m sorry, but Laura should have won and he’s already competed in one of these all-stars things). Also, Irina is looking like the lost Kardashian, and Daniel thought a pink rafia twas punk.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      Daniel should have been on the bottom for his stupid black suit with the wind-blown hot pink hula skirt. I cannot understand how he was safe.

      • MilaXX

        Daniel should have been auf’d. The fact that he wasn’t makes me think he’s this season’s drama vortex

        • demidaemon

          I agree with you completely. In fact, I said the same thing last night after poor Ari was auffed.

          • MilaXX

            who, might I add, look smoking hot!

          • demidaemon

            I was taken aback at how strikingly beautiful Ari was in every appearance. I wish she could have graced our televisions longer. :(

          • marlie

            She looked GREAT. I’m going to miss her just because of that!

  • SouthernGirlRena

    Well I am starting off my weekend with a head cold. I’m having peanut butter and wine for dinner. Does that sound pitiful or what?

    Reunion show: HATED IT. I muted most of it and regret the parts I did see. After School Special and Kate are total mean girls. I like Alexandria more because she tried her best not to get sucked into the drama. Sadly, my respect for Tim slipped several more notches.

    All Stars: I liked it more than I thought I would. The drama was kept to a minimum. I am not at all an expert in Punk but not much of what I saw really said Punk to me. I loved Seth Aaron and Jeffery’s jackets. Korto and Melissa’s outfits were really disappointing. Daniel’s look was silly. I don’t remember the others.

  • demidaemon

    I’ve already pre-ordered my copy!

    In life news I think BKs will appreciate, Anya of PR infamy came to give a presentation at my place of work–a community college, natch! I didn’t go–though I was a wee bit tempted–because I go out to one of the other campuses that day of the week and didn’t want to drive all over western NY.

    I also got to have an impromptu, unfun meeting with one of my bosses, the creepy dean. She has the strangest accent that I can not describe or imitate. I wanted to throw up afterwards and may be changing my work plans for the next semester.

    Anyone going to watch Rihanna’s new show on Bravo, Styled to Rock?

    • MilaXX

      hell yeah I’m watching. I think it will be a countrified mess, but I wanna see it anyway.

    • formerlyAnon

      So sorry about the creepy dean. In my observation, academics have so little recourse when something is awry in their chain of command. I’ve gotta ask – what was the purported topic of Anya’s presentation?

      • demidaemon

        Yes, it’s a whole lotta office politics with two deans fighting it out and us instructors (and tutors, in my case) caught in the middle. Fun times!

        So, Anya’s presentation. They were super selling her PR win, so I’m guessing she hasn’t done anything notable since. It was the monthly presentation for our fashion merchandising and fashion design students. I think–and I’m going off of a two paragraph summary thing–it was about how to create a successful business and design effectively. Or something like that. It was open to the public, interestingly.

        Things I learned from Anya’s bio: 1)She became interested in fashion design through consulting for her Miss Universe pageant. 2) She applied for PR on a whim.

        • formerlyAnon

          Thanks for replying. That sounds about right. I don’t know about design effectively, but I’d say she’s got an eye for a business opportunity.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I’d agree-Anya came across as someone who understands networking and presentation.

          • conniemd

            I was never part of the hate Anya crew, simply because she really had a good fashion eye, particularly for prints. I always wanted her and Bert Keeter to create a label together, because their paired designs were gorgeous as Bert knows how to sew and turn the concept into a finished product.

  • Stubenville

    Okay BKs – heading out to dinner here. See you here later.

  • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

    I’m off to embarrass the children at Wii bowling. (I don’t believe in letting kids win on purpose.) Talk to y’all in a while. Carry on!!

    • marlie

      I played with the nephews (~ages 7 & 10) once and got my ass handed to me. Never again.

  • Trisha26

    I skipped the PR reunion “special,” another second of Helen & Kate, aka the crazed twins in the hallway, would have driven me insane. Sorry to hear Tim was still playing his role as producer’s minion, but he’d already dropped a few rungs for me by defending that ludicrous PR nude model billboard months ago.

    I did subject myself to AllStars, despite all the manipulation and drama I love seeing what the designers create – for good or ill. I would have been happy with either Jeffrey and Seth Aaron winning – both were the most punk-inspired and the best execution. Elena taking credit for her model’s “reverse the jacket suggestion” was priceless. Daniel sailing through as safe just indicates how the season’s going to be! And I hate to say why I think Ari was auf’d (do we say that w/o Heidi?), it would have been fascinating to see how or if his design aesthetic changed with his transition. Alas.

    • DonnaL

      “Her.” Her design aesthetic; her transition.

      I didn’t watch, but I certainly hope they didn’t auf her because of her history. I thought they like interesting back stories.

    • Saturnine

      I’m completely with you on all of this. . .

  • MilaXX

    Okay, I’m in for the night with homemade vegetarian chili I think I put too much sriracha in so I added avocado slices and greek yogurt (instead of sour cream) as sides to cool it down a hair.

    All Stars didn’t suck, mostly because they’ve been around enough to know the deal. Appearance wise I think most of the the designers looked okay. Ari looked freaking gorgeous, Irina looks like she’s had a few too many fillers, Jeffrey has not aged well at all.Elena looks more polished. I’m not going to run down each look, but everyone tried to do fashion-y take on punk. A few of the gals like Irina and Korto just made pretty dresses with elements of what punk is best known for like safety pins. Others gave it a go but missed the mark. Dimitri’s top was too restrained, I agreed with the judges the grommets should have been more haphazard, Jeffrey’s skirt was along the lines of something early Madonna would have worn. I liked Micheal’s dress because it was like something Grace Jones would have worn, but it was too short and I don’t think the white leather worked. My top two were Elena and Seth Aaron’s with Melissa in third place. Elena lucked out with her model giving her a helpful suggestion to wear it backwards. Once they said Debbie Harry would wear the winning design I took one look at what she was wearing and knew Elena had it. I would have been okay with Seth winning as well. Melissa’s was okay, but the dress and the jacket felt like 2 different outfits.

    After the pile of BS that was the reunion special, All Stars was actually a breath of fresh air.

    • formerlyAnon

      Gosh your dinner sounds great. I’ve been debating if I can justify eating out just because there are no good leftovers in my fridge and I’m tired of lazy salad (that is: lettuce and maybe sliced pepper, no other addtions) topped with either cheese, marinated tofu or egg whites scrambled with chipotle tabasco. One of those three’s been dinner at least 6 of the last ten days.

      • MilaXX

        Cold weather makes me make pots of chili or stews. I make either corn bread or biscuits of some sort and whatever sides I can cobble together. It’s cheap, lazy, filling and tasty cooking for one that freezes well and last for days.

        • formerlyAnon

          Beans. It’s not yet properly cool here, but you have gotten me thinking about some beans. Now, Dominican red beans or Cuban black beans? Decisions, decisions . . .

          • MilaXX

            I like vegetarian versions of either. One of my favorite easy quick meals is black beans over brown rice topped with a sunny side up egg and cheese. Again a side of avocado makes it delish. I love avocados.

          • formerlyAnon

            One reason I love these bean dishes is the vegetarian versions are just as good as with meat. I admit I worship at the shrine of pork & love many chicken broth-based soups, so I no longer even try to be vegetarian, but I’ve lived with/cooked for at least one vegetarian for years now, so 90% of my cooking and all of my make & freeze volume cooking is vegetarian. (& I’m going with the Cuban beans, fewer ingredients. So lazy.)

    • Adrianna Grężak

      Irina wasn’t looking her best. One of my friends interned for her fashion show in college – she said Irina had a lot of pock marks, so I wonder if she did something to improve that. I once passed Irina on the street in SoHo/NYC, she was actually dressed in the same luxe-style she wore during the PR season.

    • berlinmama

      Viktor, not Dmitri

  • VictoriaDiNardo

    Wow! I just sat down with a vodka martini, waiting for weekend guests, dinner in the oven, and thought I’d check in on what I missed today – and this! So great. Watching – kind of pathetically – PR last night without the lounge, really drove home the fact that it’s the TLo community that makes it a worthwhile viewing experience and not the actual show. It’s what brought most of us here to start with, but now it’s more about the continuing the spirit of what Tom and Lorenzo created here.
    This is a fantastic development. Thanks guys, for sustaining it. – and us!

    ( and yes, signed copies of the book all around! )

    • Lisa_Co

      Actually Uncles TLo were nice enough to make their last post of Thursday Alyssa Milano so that we could chat about all things PR.

      • VictoriaDiNardo

        Yes, I was there and that was nice, but somehow not like the Lounge with the Uncles in charge and PR going full tilt crazy. I think this Friday lounge is an evolution and an acknowledgement of what happens here and the connection we share – with or without PR.

  • formerlyAnon

    Bye for now, fellow BKs. Healthful exercise and traditional face-to-face interaction next on the agenda. Hope to see some of y’all later today/this weekend. [Austin, Austin, Austin]

  • Juan S. Esteves

    Love you too guys!!!!, best wishes on the wedding, hope seeing soon your baby, but im from ecuador, maybe i will have a digital copy??… Do u know this season cast of RPDR, im eager to see it… And on the matter of PR all stars, i wasnt gonna see it but crazy ukraine make it for me

  • Kimberlini

    Sorry but I don’t agree that the Andy/Ari transformation was fabulous. Andy was a great looking guy with a lot of style. I thought he would make a beautiful woman but unfortunately, Ari looks like a drag queen to me. Tacky hair, makeup, jewelry and clothes. And how is it that Ari looks more masculine with those shoulders and legs than Andy ever did?

    • M. H. Leader

      Totally agree. Ari was NOT attractive; Andy was. Looked like some serious cosmetic surgery to give MASSIVE cheekbones that are wildly out of proportion to the rest of her face. It was sad, actually. No one would mistake her now for a from-birth female. She really did look like a drag queen. Where’s Ru Paul when you need her?

      • marlie

        It didn’t appear to me that Ari had any work done; She had the same cheekbones as Andy. Also, the transition was fabulous because Ari seemed so *happy* (though I also thought she actually looked great). And those are her shoulders; that’s not going to change. I know plenty of people who were born women who have broad shoulders like that; maybe that’s because I was a swimmer and a rower for so many years that it’s par for the course.

      • DonnaL

        The same goes for you. Sad? That’s your problem, not hers. In a way, it’s a good thing she was eliminated early. Otherwise, people would be making cruel comments about her appearance as long as she continued. Because that’s how people talk about trans women.

    • Adrianna Grężak

      I was shocked when I saw Ari (my mouth literally dropped), but admittedly had the same thought before I realized it was Andy South. I was just surprised because Andy struck me as somebody who was very comfortable in their body. However, I understand where Ari is coming from.

    • DonnaL

      There are supposed to be rules here about saying nasty things like that about peoples’ appearances. Everybody seems to think they have the right to trash the way trans women look and decide that they don’t look “real” enough.. It’s hard enough to transition without everybody sitting in judgment.

  • M. H. Leader

    All I can say about the All Stars show is…it sucked. Make the designers do their design work in the cramped basement of Mood (but with all the stuff they needed there anyway). What was the point of that??? Why was that a meaningful challenge? They missed the mark entirely–should have had Swatch as the inspiration. Then the bow-wow-winess of the show would have been explainable.

    There was this underlying pathetic trying-so-hard-to-prove-I’ve-made-it aspect from all the participating designers. As if any who was truly doing well would even dream of participating in this train wreck.

    As for our new hostess-with-the-mostest…to me, she either gushed like a teenager, or made absolutely inane comments. And she couldn’t figure out who to look at when introducing the judges–the judges (as Heidi does) or the designers. So she sort of looked at no one. Debbie Harry got maybe three sentences in during the judging.

    Mary Kay cosmetics is part of the $750K prize package. L’Oreal was smart enough to keep three billion miles away from this disaster. For the cosmetic part of the prize package you get a century’s worth of Mary Kay, including majority ownership of the company.

    QVC Accessory Wall. And the designers (JEFFREY even!!) made comments about how QVC was the Ultimate Goal of All Top Fashion Designers. MUCH bigger than, say, Fashion Week. Apparently, not even Belk was willing to sign on for this one.

    That says it all, don’t you think?

    No doubt next season of PR will have:

    Cosmetics featuring Sally Hanson makeup and Head ‘N Shoulders hair care products.
    TJ Maxx department store challenges
    Payless Shoes accessory wall.

    How the mighty have fallen. It was an hour long that felt like it was at least 2 hours. Ugh.

    • http://urban-gypsy.com/ Tess Danesi

      Please tell me someone wrote the “QVC is the dream of all designers” line and prodded him with a hot poker until he agreed to utter it. Isn’t QVC the very antithesis of fashion? It’s mass market appeal schmattas, which if you’re a designer looking to bring home the bacon is probably not a bad demographic to fall in, but it sure as hell isn’t noteworthy for its cutting edge designs.

      Actually, some TJ Maxx’s (in chi chi areas) have a really nice designer sections. I think that would be a cut above a QVC accessory wall.

      And Alyssa Milano was awful. I almost miss the slow talker. Almost.

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I figured Jefrrey and the other designers were force fed the line about QVC.

        • http://urban-gypsy.com/ Tess Danesi

          I can only imagine how many takes they had to run through before no one snickered at the mention of QVC. :-)

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I can actually picture Jeffrey sayng that line and then smirking or snickering.

  • Sheokaf

    Before I read the comments, I just want to thank you for a wonderful website. So happy for your continued success, love to you both.

  • Stephanie

    Pre-ordered that the day it was available! :)

    • veriance

      ditto!

  • majorbedhead

    Well, I FINALLY got a job this week, so my time on TLo is severely limited, and it’s making me crabby. Fridays just aren’t the same without my sausage fix.

    And tomorrow, I am going to be insane and take my two small children in to NYC. By myself. I will either be dead or drinking heavily by this time tomorrow.

    • marlie

      Congrats on the new job, and have fun in the Big Apple!

    • Boulderista

      Hah, I started a new job last week and made it almost 2 weeks without catching up once on the uncles during the day. I finally gave in this afternoon and took a sneak peak at sausage Friday because I just couldn’t wait.

      Good luck with the new job!

    • formerlyAnon

      YAY job.

      By the time you read this, you’ll be post-expedition and exhausted. Just know you’re laying the groundwork for your kids’ future appreciation of the good things in life.

      I vaguely remember my dad rescuing me on a trip into NYC (I was 7 or 8) from a one-sided conversation with an old guy who, for all I knew, I couldn’t understand a word he was saying, could have been homeless or the owner of the Italian deli with in house coffee grinder (VERY exotic in the early/mid ’60s) we had just exited. Pretty sure that trip also hit the Museum of Natural History.

  • Frank_821

    I was amused enough by All-Stars. I realized this All-stars might be better becaase it’s smaller group and the talent level is closer. Although Daniel or Mychael should have been booted

    Personally I find the reunion to be the whiniest ever. It was clear Tim didn’t really care for this group as a whole. His hostile reaction was so un-Tim-like. The sad part is this really is a very talented group of designers but they were comprised of some of the worst contestants ever. And those traits carried over in the reunion

    After 9 years, I am so sick of hearing people complain about the working coniditons and how tiring it is and how harder it was then they realize. This isn’t season 2 or 3, it’s season 12!

    Helen and Sandro were of course true to themselves. Sandro came across as such an insecure egomaniac. Helen is still immature. hopefully she’ll grow out of it

    At least Mirando and UNicorn boy made peace

    Any good will I built up for Kate was dashed when she started drilling Alexandria. It was very hyprocritical of her since most contestants bitch and vent from the stress of the show. she should know better than any of them.

    However I don’t have that much respect for Alexandria’s replies. The truth of the matter is she did say some brutal things about people. Yes it was overall no worse than any one else but she should just admit to it and own it. Instead of claiming she has no recollection of her comments, she should have said things were said in frustration and leave it at that. Even Helen admitted she said some horrible things

    It was surprising to see how ungracious Jeremy actually can be. His critiques on other people’s clothes really left a bad taste in my mouth. He’s a charming guy but he’s pretty catty. And those tweets he made about Bradon were really unnecessary

    I know plenty of folks are cheering on Alexander with his comments but I wasn;t one of them. What does he really have to complain about?. He made fair number of garments that garnered positive feedback from the judges. Outside of the Ken incident, he came across as likable and sane and he made it far enough to show a decoy collection in front of the NY fashion community

    IN fairness, Alexander had a good point to make but the way he articulated it had, for me, the stench of sour grapes. There is bias in the judges without a doubt. There always has been and always will be. We have our favorites. It’s impossible to be completely impartial in such a situation. And I am not dismissing producer manipulation. It’s always been there since season 1. However for Alexander to imply the outcome was consciously pre-determined in the judges’ minds from the beginning is a little incredulous. especially that that decision is based on personality or type rather than talent.

    The fact is the bias comes from their work. You have got the first 2, maybe,3 episodes, to court the judges’ favor. If you don’t make an impact then, it’s an uphill battle. Helen may have become a fave but she didn’t start out that way. Dom was middle of the pack until half-way through. Heidi was the only judge consistently championing Alexandria and it wasn’t due to her warm and fuzzy personality. That faith ultimately was justified but let’s face it, she made a number questionable garments that had viewers crying fowl. She’s talented but she was that great of a contestant

    Ken and Jeremy and Sandro can talk favortism all they like but they were not exactly thrilling the audience with their work

    Of course there is pigeonholing on the show. There’s manipulation by the producers. Duh!That’s what the producers are doing to create drama and a narrative for the finished product. There you can cry fowl. I think it’s too simplistic and easy to say everything was pre-determined. Helen didn’t make it to the final group and Bradon (like Christopher before him) came in 4th. I thought Alexander got treated pretty well on the show

    If you want to cry foul, let’s talk about that Tim save.

  • AnniNoone

    I was about to buy your book, but Amazon helpfully reminded me that I already did that in July. Love you guys!

  • Kwei-lin Lum

    Thanks for hosting this Friday Lounge, TLo! I’m a PR addict and the conversation here is clever and informed. The cast reunion tried to extract the most drama from the season’s several casting mistakes and drag many others into the fray. Few came off well, I suppose Justin did, but then you hope that someone that nice will be tough enough to make it in a fashion world full of characters like the rest of them. It’s too bad Sandro was allowed to participate without showing any personal growth. I enjoyed All-Stars because nearly all of the outfits (save Daniel’s) were competently made and had interesting ideas. The clothes may have not been punk, but no wonder, the idea behind the challenge, current punk fashion trend, is oxymoronic. I liked Jeffrey’s best because it was dissonant, and also liked Elena’s, Seth Aaron’s, and Mychael Knight’s sleek white outfit. Daniel was bottom three material with a poorly proportioned hot pink feather belt slapped on a simple black outfit. Didn’t care for Ari South’s either but the fit was good and she cared about her work.

    • nosniveling

      Great idea for a Lounge. I enjoyed both PR shows, and the discussion that followed-
      however, if one has given up on them, then focus on something else and don’t complain the entire time
      !

  • CatherineRhodes

    Of course I’ve pre-ordered the book. You had me at the Bewitched typeface.

  • MuellersDayOff

    TLo, All the best to you on your upcoming wedding!

  • 3boysful

    If you guys come to Charlotte for a signing, the guest room is yours!!

    • OffToSeeHim

      Raleigh here! So we just need somebody in Greensboro and the North Carolina tour is taken care of! Oooh, then we could finish up in the Outer Banks! I already ordered my copy a while ago, I can’t wait! And my family motto has been, “We’re not proud, bring it on” for years.

  • JasmineAM

    Does anyone here watch Misfits?

    • MilaXX

      I do. Has the final season started yet?

    • nannypoo

      Is that another name for Project Runway All Stars?

    • nancymae

      I loved that series! Thanks to Hulu… I stopped after season 3. If you just started watching, I won’t explain why but once you get there it will all make sense.

  • Saturnine

    Ugh. I caved and watched the Reunion special. *Face palm* I knew it would be a nasty Helen-Kate-Ken-(and-Jeremy) fest, and I watched anyway. The And then Tim on that high indignant horse? I has a sad.

  • GorgeousThings

    I am so disappointed that I won’t be there! That is the one weekend of the year that I am committed to the only charity that I support (breast cancer related) But I’ll think of something brilliant to send. I love you both dearly and I’m thrilled to have been there the night of.
    Oh yeah, this?

    “The Real Housewives of Sewing.”

    WORD
    xoxo to TLO

  • bitchybitchybitchy

    Of course we’ll buy your book-silly TLo! The Real Housewives of Sewing-gack. So glad I missed the reunion show. Still mulling over the first episode of PRAlsoRans and Past Champs.

  • Therese Bohn

    I recorded the reunion show but could only watch 5 minutes of it before I said “enough!”.

  • NMMagpie

    The ONLY reason to watch all of PRAS3 was Debbie Harry. The woman is beyond fabulous and I was squealing like a fan girl with her new music. Alyssa Milano wishes she could be as cool as Debbie.

    What cracked me up was the little tension between Debbie and Georgina Chapman. I was Z-snapping all over the place when Debbie put Georgina in her place for not knowing true punk style. I am old enough to know what that is. :)

    Confession time: the second reason to watch PRAS3 for me is Seth Aaron. I love the guy and yes, I want him to win.

    I also watched the reunion show and was non-plussed by all the whining, backbiting and brattiness. For a pile of folks who got their 15 minutes (looking at you Helen), it’s time to let it go. None of that behavior is going to get you a job. And is that not some of the point for going on PR in the first place?

    Loved Tim’s socks, BTW.

  • jonnyf8

    I enjoyed the reunion show more than I thought I would. I like Ken and I like Helen and I do not like Alexandra and even though she did finally come through with a good final collection the fact that she was final four, when there were at least 3 occasions when she was not even bottom 3 — when she probably should have been auffed is clear proof that there is favoritism. And for Tim to bring up Season 8 and Mondo as another example — I’m really not following his logic that this indicates the judging is fair. Another highlight or “the pot calling the kettle moment” was Jeremy calling out Bradon for his manipulative engagement ploy. Oh Gay Dad, you played the violin more than any other contestant this season.

    • pdquick

      I couldn’t have thought of a more apt mixed metaphor that a violin-playing black pot. Well done.

  • LeSourire

    Ugh, just finished the reunion special and I’m not sure I have the energy to bother with All Stars.

    I have to say I actually really liked how Jeremy responded to the question about his tweet (re: Brandon’s marriage proposal). It was his honest opinion and he stood behind it without drama or backpedaling. Regardless of whether or not agree with his opinion (or the rather bitchy way he originally stated it) I admire standing behind what one says even when it’s unpopular or there is pressure to backtrack.

    • MilaXX

      True, but it was a bit pot meets kettle considering Jeremy’s never ending tribute every week to various family members. My husband, my children, my not mother.

      • jonnyf8

        Wasn’t it his partner’s mum — not even his own. I mean I’m sure they were close but . . .

        • MilaXX

          yep, that why I wrote not mother

          • http://www.GiftedCollector.com/ The Gifted Collector

            Wasn’t she actually his non-grandmother?

    • tixilyttik

      I loved Jeremy for that. I have to say however that I think part of it is because Bradon stole Jeremy’s thunder this season. Jeremy was prepared to play the “gay dad” card all the way into the ground but Bradon trumped it with “gay fiancé who can finally get married”.
      Girls, girls, neither of that beats “deaf gay sweet guy”.

      • leonps

        Very funny, reminded me of the “Modern Family” episode where the Jesse Ferguson character thought his minority daughter had the inside track for an exclusive pre-school, but got trumped by an inter-racial lesbian couple with a disabled child in a wheelchair.

  • VivianAdvanced

    All Stars Recap, Episode 1 – The challenge was to create a look inspired by the punk-revival trend, which is sad because if punk has become a runway trend with clothes costing thousands of dollars, then it ceases to be punk. Accessories were furnished by QVC and makeup by Mary Kaye. What could be more punk than those bastions of cool?A few of the designers make sort of mundane dresses that Nancy Spungeon wouldn’t touch with a 10-foot safety pin, but they’re safe. Jeffrey wins with a semi-Vivienne-Westwoodish creation. Ari, nee Andy, the guy with the puffy jaws and somebody else who I forgot were on the bottom. Ari gets kicked off for a shorts outfit they thought was too well made. The end.

    • http://urban-gypsy.com/ Tess Danesi

      Though Jeffrey didn’t win, Elena with her backwards jacket, the model’s idea, did.

      • VivianAdvanced

        Yes, yes, I stand corrected! I wrote my little recap in a fog, off the top of my head. How could I forget the actual winner? I thought Elena deserved the win. Her look was inspired and not a full-on interpretation of punk. She owes her model for the backwards idea. Elena seems to be a kinder, gentler version of her former harridan self–so far, anyway.

  • Karen North

    RIP Tim Gunn. In ” Mr. Smith Goes To Washington”, I assume a wholesome , fair and honorable Jimmy Stewart goes to Washington to make all things right. Of course they didn’t give us the sequel where faced with a difficult third term election he completely sells out and becomes just another hypocritical politician. Sort of like what happened to Tim. Too much reality TV has been the death of him.

    “Perhaps – I want the old days back again and they’ll never come back, and I am haunted by the memory of them and of the world falling about my ears. ”
    Look for it only in books, for it is a no more than a dream remembered. A civilization gone with the wind.
    ― Margaret Mitchell

  • Sweetvegan

    I would say that the only reason Elena won was because she had never won a challenge and they needed an excuse to call her an “all-star,” BUT Debbie Harry loved Elena’s look. So I can’t say that. I see that a lot of people gave it a shot and decided not to watch PR All Stars, but I think it’s too early to tell.

  • BuffaloBarbara

    Recap:

    Seth Aaron and Jeffrey lost a punk challenge to Elena, whose win was based on turning her run of the mill ’80s jacket backwards. Which was her model’s idea.

    Meanwhile Ari (previously Andy, in case you didn’t know) went home. Pretty deservedly, given the schmatta that went down the runway. Laughably, the judges claimed it was because it was too well constructed to be punk. (I liked her stuff in her season. Wish she hadn’t been eliminated right off, but, you know, schmatta.) Victor Luna was second-to-last, despite another well-made piece with big grommets on the sleeves.

    Seth Aaron admitted that, while the money would be nice, he just wants the double title. I have to appreciate someone who is playing this game because he freaking felt like playing the game.

    Coming up this season: Lots of celebrities I don’t know, people crying on the runway, Elena working up to some kind of meltdown, and I think they go somewhere.

    • Eric Stott

      Seth Aaron has gotten rather smug since his season. Victor’s garment was well made, but it was at best punk lite – rather conservative garments with the punk aesthetic applied to them almost as an afterthought.

  • BuffaloBarbara

    Non-recappy stuff:
    I don’t watch any of the shows mentioned. Oh, well. I did finally catch up on my Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..

    Went to see the Carrie remake — liked it, but did not love it, which sums up the current Stephen King renaissance. I stopped watching Under the Dome one night when I had something better to do, and I don’t miss it. I liked Dr. Sleep quite a lot, though.

  • A Shiny O’Connor

    TLo’s book is on pre-order. I’m killing time by planning the wine and canapes to go with it.

    • pdquick

      She always makes me want to slap that hungry kid. If that kid were in my living room whining like that, I’d tell him to get in the kitchen and cook something. I’m hungry too, dammit. And find me the damn remote so I can shut her up!

  • pdquick

    Alyssa Milano’s voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

  • Michelle Wilson

    All Stars – I’ll probably be watching but the results were pretty shit first episode and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think I hate Alyssa Milano as host even more than the slow talker whom preceded her. Also, whomever is styling her isn’t used to dressing anyone under 6 feet tall and the proportions are all wrong. Skirt too long, shoes too big and chunky, etc. She looked awful and she’s obviously trying to “play” authoritative and it’s unconvincing. Her acting skills aren’t up to the task. I don’t understand why Ari was the one eliminated. Her clothes weren’t punk but were so much more interesting than what Mychael, Daniel or Victor sent down. They were neither punk, nor current. They were just horrible design. Not sure I can take another season of Daniel making an 80′s power suit with strong shoulders for every damn challenge. What the hell was punk about pink rafia.

    Reunion show – All too happy to put Kate, Helen and Dom in the rearview mirror. They were horrendous and I hope they all go on to lives of obscurity. Glad Alexandria was a grownup. Nothing she said during the season was better or worse than what anyone else said and was usually pretty spot on. Kate seems to have a knack for finding the most talented designer in the room and making them a target of her envy and frustration. After last season’s blowback, she was smart enough this season to find an evil minion in Helen to channel her inner bitch. Helen’s too dumb to realize she’s being manipulated and Dom’s too dumb to put the necessary distance between herself and the mean girls club.

  • Lilyana_F

    I cannot wait for the book, guys!

    PR talk – I had no idea u were not going to recap the PRAS 3… but I totally get it. I’ll probably still be watching, but my main incentive is now gone, so who knows if I’ll stick it till the end. So some random thoughts: Alyssa Milano is pretty unbearable, but I actually like Isaac way better than Zac as a judge. Debbie’s awesome. I liked what Ari made, it was one of the more interesting looks design-wise, and I can see it being a 2013 interpretation of punk. Key word – interpretation. How was Daniel’s look more punk than that? And Victor just put some grommets on the sleeves of a pretty generic looking jacket. So yeah. I would’ve loved to see more of what Ari would’ve made.

  • conniemd

    Dear TLo, I have a Barnes and Noble Nook. I note that you only have the Kindle version E-Book. Please, please, please make a deal with B & N to put your book in their format so I can download it!

  • psychoblonde

    I always thought Ari was extremely talent so glad to see her back on All Stars. Same for most of the cast aside from the obvious troublemakers that were planted for entertainment (but even most of those are decent designers). Still, I can’t help but wonder, how many more of these can they do when they are plucking winners? What next, people voted off in round 1?

    • Qitkat

      Not all, but a few have been potentially interesting designers voted off in round one, two or three. Why not do a season, not called All Stars of course, of that bunch? The 2nd Chance season.

      I was sorry to see Ari eliminated. As Andy, I always found his aesthetic interesting, and hoped to see more of what she could offer. While not punk, her quality was high, and others also missed the mark with less success, IMO.

    • berlinmama

      How about all winners competing against each other.

  • formerlyAnon

    You are a public benefactor for posting this.

  • SewingSiren

    A. Thanks for the tip on The Conjuring. I love hauntings, but hate slashings.
    B. So what is the party color theme.
    C. I thought All Stars was pretty good. Did not agree that Jeffrey should have been in the top. But did agree with the win for Elena. Disagree that Victor should have been in the bottom, the only thing wrong with his was the styling. Which of course a “punk INSPIRED” outfit would not be worn by a punk, so you can style it to YOUR customer.

    • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

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      • SewingSiren

        I *think* I have it under control now. I really thought I had dodged this bullet because the kids have had a combination of 31 years of public education and we never had it. Unfortunately I was wrong. Very wrong indeed.

    • formerlyAnon

      Head lice. Reason #897 I do not miss my children’s younger years at all. I do not care who gives me the side eye for saying so.

      Of course, I am fortunate that now that mine are edging into young adulthood I am getting to enjoy bits and pieces of this stage and find that I quite like the people they have grown into.

    • berlinmama

      Elena’s was good because of the MODEL’S idea of wearing it backwards!

  • Charles

    I’m rather annoyed Tim encouraged Helen and Kate to go after Alexandria in the reunion. She looked over to the side at one point, as if to question why it hadn’t been stopped/cut and they let it go on. The two of them were horrible on the show, and Alex proved to be one of the less catty/volatile people on the show but she seemed to get a comparatively hard time over it.
    They were by and large all nuts this year though. A petri dish of people unfit to be in a competition like that or on tv. I’ve watched every year but think that might have been enough for me.

    • GillianHolroyd

      B-b-but Tim said that this was the nicest bunch of designers ever.

      I remain mystified why Alexandria became the brunt of a couple bullies when, by all accounts her chief issue was that she kept to herself and her most derogatory comment was to call someone’s work “student”.

      It’s telling I think that she and Miranda, another outcast, became friends (per her interview on PBR).

      I assume they filmed several hours of reunion so now Tim has fallen victim to the selected editing process.

      • Charles

        You’re probably right with the editing, because I sort of hated Tim by the end of it. He came off really badly (I also didn’t understand his bringing up Mondo to suggest it wasn’t rigged. It almost goes against what he’s said before or even on its own).

        Completely agree about Alexandria. She kept to herself and didn’t engage which might have come off as cold sometimes but it could never warrant that kind of abuse. And they even let Helen and. Kate off when it came to the tweets they read out as being cruel or underhanded!

        • Eric Stott

          When I heard Tim’s denial it was as if all of his statements of the past have been wiped clean. My respect for the man has sunk a few degrees lower.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I think Tim’s reputation among we BK’s has dimmed more than a bit. I still like him, but since he became a producer or whatever of PR he’s lost some luster.

          • Eric Stott

            I’m not even certain about his mentoring advice- he’s gone into ecstasies over some pretty questionable stuff. Joanna Coles was actually much more on point in her mentoring – I’ll miss her.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I agree about Joanna Coles-as much as I like Tim, I think Coles is closer to what is currently going on in the fashion world.

          • Eric Stott

            Also (and I’m on thin ice here) she’s a woman, and there are some things about the fit of a dress Tim will never know first hand (I sincerely hope!)

          • Charles

            My respect sank for him as well. Sometimes I wonder if he’s happy to bemoan the increasing failings of the show whilst taking the money they give him and doing whatever they ask him to do.

          • Qitkat

            I felt as if we finally saw Tim’s really bitchy obnoxious defensive side, and it wasn’t attractive at all. He was actually baiting people to go after one another. I used to find him adorable, really knowledgable, erudite, often unintentionally funny, and empathetic. I think what has happened is the old adage, “you are what you eat.” Tim has been grazing at the reality show banquet for too many years now, especially since he became a producer, and a fundamentally nice guy has gone a bit over into the dark side.

          • Eric Stott

            And the honest truth of broadcasting is: how many viewers would tune into the show if it was all competition with minimal conflict? It would get very flat.

          • Qitkat

            True dat.

          • Wellworn

            Well, compare the earlier seasons to the recent ones. They had some conflict but the level was not nearly as crazy or mean. I found those seasons far more entertaining than the recent ones, especially this one. I really don’t want to watch crazy people acting out every week, or mean people just being mean. I didn’t find those early seasons flat. You can have funny people, or characters, we could also see the fashion and talent being used to good effect. Remember when this was a show about fashion and designing? How about that with minimal conflict. We (not me because I don’t watch it) have been too jaded by all the reality housewife shit to remember what good tv is. And it isn’t seeing a fight every week.

        • tixilyttik

          That was so odd of him to say about Mondo because it’s the very reason a lot of people started suspecting Project Runway was rigged in the first place.
          Mondo was the clear winner, but Gretchen fit what Lifetime saw as their demographic. Lifetime wanted Gretchen to win and she did.
          Let’s face it, as much as we all adore Mr. Gunn, maybe less is more? I kind of od’d on Tim Gunn this season.
          Completely agree about Alexandria. She did nothing to deserve that level of hate.

          • Charles

            Yes and there was that video of Tim at an event saying that Gretchen needed the money but heavily implying Mondo should have won and would go on to better things. So he’s sort of contradicting his earlier statements.

      • berlinmama

        Helen’s nasty attack on Alexandria when everyone else talked far worse smack, and then all her giggling made me want to bitch-slap her.

  • ellabob

    Enjoy your weekend – thanks for making me laugh on a daily basis and looking forward to the book!!

  • another_laura

    Pre-ordered the book for my iPad. Could any book tour be complete without San Francisco? (I hope I hope I hope)

    • unbornfawn

      I’ll be in line behind you. A meet and greet for west coast Bitter Kittens!

  • tixilyttik

    I have to say All Stars was much less obnoxious than I expected. I even enjoyed it. I watch online the day after. I used to read T&L first and then watch, but now I’m on my own I guess.
    I get the reason for bringing back the former winners now. The QVC tie-in package really does have unprecedented value. It could really make a designer a household name. Issac M is on QVC. I think Marc Jacobs and many others have lines on QVC. It’s really made to order and I’ve wondered myself why PR does not tie-in with a shop at home network. Lisa Roberson is a hostess who has a fan base in her own right, and she really is beautiful and appealing. Ok I get it.
    I think having the former winners there is insurance for QVC that they have at least 3 people who have gone on to successful careers after PR and who could handle the pressures of QVC.
    If one of these designers plays his or her cards right (telegenic, likeable, brings in $) then it could be a very big deal, provided they don’t sign their lives away with it.
    As for the show. Milano okay, she’s going to try hard to be a bitch, or maybe she is a bitch, IDK. The new mentor is fine. Issac is fine. Marchesa (I can’t remember her name, Georgina?) is awesome.
    I thought everyone did a good job on the project, some missing the idea of “punk” but tying in with Mood to do punk was really not a great idea. It should have been going to a thrift store with a limited amount and making a fabulous punk outfit. Duh. That’s okay it was still fun. I did not mind Jeffrey or Seth Aaron or some of the others as much as I thought I would. It was fun.
    I will probably watch it all season.

    • unbornfawn

      I totally agree that they should have gone to a thrift store to do punk! That would have been perfect. It is really hard to do punk from the ground up with new stuff. Part of the look is found and reworked stuff. Even though very few of the outfits looked punk, the overall quality on the runway was good. Love the hour format.

      • Eric Stott

        Even though cliches should be avoided, I was looking for a few rips and safety pins – if only to be ironic.

        • tixilyttik

          Safety pins were such a huge part of punk. I was kind of surprised not one designer did something with safety pins. I thought I saw one do something but then it did not appear to be in the final look.

          • Eric Stott

            Went back & looked again, some of them used pins, but none of them with the prominence and flair of Westwood. Still, there’s a problem- how do you reference an old style & still be “Fashion Forward”?

    • berlinmama

      I think QVC and Mary Kay are downmarket. I am sick of and annoyed by the ever BEAUTIFUL Georgina. And Alyssa Milano? Girl been on worst dressed lists too many times!

  • Ballardgranny

    All Stars was so much better than Season 12. The show is better, more focused when it is an hour long.

    • Frank_821

      Well the reason for that is obvious. Most of these All-Stars unlike most of the Season 12 cast know how to be professional.

      • Ballardgranny

        I believe it is partially because there is less time for the producers to fill. The contestants get the challenge, go to Mood, sew, do runway, have judging. No time for extra curricular antics.

        • berlinmama

          What was working at Mood about? just a gimmick?

    • GillianHolroyd

      Well, we do know most/all of the designers already so we didn’t get that meet-and-greet/sizing up the competition shtick and everyone’s back story. That’s a good 15-20 minutes saved right there.

  • OrigamiRose

    Suck it, Cardinals! :)

    • makeityourself

      Oh dear. I’m afraid you’ll have to suck it, Bosox fan.

      • OrigamiRose

        I just sucked it all the way back from our victory parade. Better luck next year!

        ~2013 World Series Champs

  • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

    PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS – I was very impressed with Irina in the past. I sat through half of the Thursday night show with my jaw dropped while I tried to figure out what the heck happened to her face! I thought, maybe she’s older than I think and she had work done but I Googled her and she is still under 30. Is it possible she just changed her eyebrows? She got rid of her natural ones for a more Dietrich effect?

    One episode, and I’m already over hearing Elena speak. Yack, yack. Does she love to hear the sound of her own voice?

  • Lilyana_F

    Is anybody watching Styled to Rock? Thoughts?

    • Qitkat

      I watched it, but was kind of bored. I did find it an interesting twist with the designers chosen halfway through construction for the final special judging. I think watching PR all these years has given us already all the variations of personalities and talent. Which is why I’m kind of burnt out on it too.

  • belfebe

    I actually liked it. Alyssa Milano is doing a credible job as hostess. Much better than her predecessors. She’s no Kluminator, but then no one is. I adore Zanna. Again, she’s no Timm Gunn, but she’s great at being Zanna. The fact that it was one hour helped a lot, which goes to prove that you don’t need 90 minutes of Real Housewives style drama to make an entirely watchable show.

    On bringing back past winners: I don’t have a problem with that. DWTS has done it and it was great fun. Plus you can tell which ones are the pros and which ones are the greens. And even a green one can surprise you here and there.

    I agreed with the top 3. As for the bottoms, I could not disagree with Ari’s schmaufing. I’d love to see more of her, but that dress wasn’t punk at all. Having said that, some of the stuff that was deemed safe was really fugly. I don’t think that Viktor’s was the one to be in the bottom two. But that’s the way the cookie crumbles…

  • bertkeeter

    “The Real Housewifes of Sewing” HA! You got that right! WOW did they nail TG up against the BELKS wall in that the Reunion! He picked the wrong crowd to BS! But Ken should be glad that the producers DO keep the drama Queen’s around regardless of their talent or he may not have even gotten on the show in the first place!

  • kerryev

    Ugh, I just watched the PR reunion special. Helen, that thing you’re wondering about, what “makes you so disgusting?” It was that thing you were doing right there. Fabricating a spotlight as well as an argument.

    • tixilyttik

      Alexandria would have had every right to bitch slap Helen across the room. In fact, she really had the right to bitch slap everyone, Katie especially. She was no meaner than anyone else. She’s just not a (on the surface anyway) warm fuzzy person. Why does everybody have to be a Muppet in order to be liked? She’s that hard as nails Scandinavian stoic woman who lives to be 100 and works until she’s 99. I think that’s why Heidi “got” her, because Heidi is just the same.
      She was absolutely right about Helen. Helen is an energy/attention vampire. The workroom had to be “The Helen Show” every challenge. She proved what an obnoxious little fool she is, and she drug her little mean girl friend along with her. Katie should be ashamed, she knows better.

  • Eric Stott

    Are you going to get around to blogging the decoy collections, or have you already filed this last season away and shut the drawer?

  • tixilyttik

    The most interesting thing about the reunion special…all 16 designers rolling their eyes when Tim Gunn was declaring it was just PREPOSTEROUS that the producers had input on the judging.

    • SewingSiren

      It is actually stated as the credits roll by at the end of the show that the producers have some input to the out come of the challenges.

  • berlinmama

    Miss ‘The White Queen’! Was hoping they were going to do a series ‘The Red Queen’ but BBC nixed it! BOO!

  • guest2visits

    I found the Reunion entertaining at least. It had the usual. Insane reasoning: check. Lingering hate: check. Childish behavior:check. What I see at most of these cozy little get-togethers, turned up a few notches. I almost didn’t blink at Tim sitting in and directing this made to order drama-rama. It’s becoming less of a jolt seeing Tim as a part of the game. And…I think it’s clear the designers found Tim easier to vent or confide in than any of the judges.
    So Alexandria made some uncomplimentary remarks during her capsule interviews. I assume they are always being asked to contribute some snark about their fellow designers. Fine. She didn’t drag it out on the workroom floor; like Helen, Ken, Sandro and others. I think she was way too involved in what she was making to even bother. In fact, that’s one of the things that I sort of disliked most – she was so unwilling to move one inch from her dour, dreary aesthetic. As though her art would suffer if a particle of sunshine found it’s way in. But as many times as I thought Alexandria should have been auft, her finale collection was the best of the group; the winner for me. If by a small margin. Why she inspired so much hate from the others at the reunion, I don’t know. Perhaps they were auditioning for future episodes of the PR soaps. *Sigh* I could write pages about the rest of the reunion antics & dialog.
    I DO know this; there is no reason why the images of the RW each episode should be so difficult to decipher when the amazing camera angles devoted to Helen’s bitchiness were worthy of an Emmy…
    I admit I liked the first episode of AllStars; even while my knickers are still in a twist over using previous winners to fill out the roster. I liked just about all the results of the challenge, even if none seemed to be actually punk. Other BKs have suggested it was more accurately New Wave style. I would have kept Ari, auft Mychael. I would have selected Seth for the win…except he’s a past winner and not ready to give him any points; still doesn’t seem fair. So Elena for the win.
    Saw Capt. Phillips this weekend… very intense and anxiety loaded. Some people on our isle cried at the end.

  • GillianHolroyd

    For anyone watching The Good Wife, tonight’s episode can be described in two words: Scorched. Earth.

    • raeb23

      loved the battle between the firms…i can’t decide who to root for!

  • SewingSiren

    I finally watched the reunion. Ken came off rather well, as did Alexandria and Alexander . Helen was certainly let off the hook for her tweets, instead they busted Jeremy and Justin for tweeting what a lot of other viewers were thinking. It was pretty distasteful they way Tim encouraged Helen to rant at Alexandrea for absolutely no logical reason.

  • Fordzo

    I just watched last night’s Homeland. When are Carrie and Quinn going to have sex?

  • ChrisP

    Re: PRAS episode 1: were there only 3 differenty shoe styles for the designers to choose from? None looked punk to me.

  • CMSmith1848

    February! I was wondering when it would be out. Not only am I going to get it for myself – but also for a few friends. I actually watched The Good Wife last night. LORD that was some good television. On a fashion note: what say you to jacket suits that zip up? The Good Wife has a lot of them.