American Horror Story: The Replacements

Posted on October 24, 2013


AHS+S3E3+6

Denis O’Hare and Patti LuPone in FX’s American Horror Story: Coven

 

We’re afraid there were so many fantastic lines in this episode that we’re all going to have to stop what we’re doing and immediately vote on the best. We’ve narrowed the list down to four entries, but it wasn’t easy. Please vote. In Jesus’ name.

  1. “This coven doesn’t need a new supreme. It needs a new rug.”
  2. “He’s so backed up, all I’d have to do is say “panties” and he’d jizz in his jeans.”
  3. “On the day of, bring two ounces of your husband’s baby gravy in a Mason jar.”
  4. “LIIIIIIEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Wait. Hold up. We’re suspending the voting. Delphine LaLaurie’s poisonous hiss at the news of a black Poet Laureate was the line of the night, not because of how it was written (obvs) but how it was delivered: with grand relish. We actually clapped, because Kathy Bates is so clearly having the time of her life in this role. Of course, she’s not alone in that regard. Angela Bassett seems to be enjoying the hell out of herself (and should get an Emmy in the category of Bone-Chilling, Innard-Shriveling Laugh of Evil Intent) as well, and we’d bet Patti LuPone has not yet begun to chew scenery. Jessica’s never anything less than delicious, of course. It’s Ryan Murphy playing with all his diva dolls this season and to be perfectly honest, we can’t think of one thing on television we love more right now.

And with this episode, we enter the “shit is really fucked up” phase of an American Horror Story season, when Murphy and Co. reveal to you just how far they’re willing to go this season. Last season, it was all, “Pfft. Satan? How about Satan PLUS aliens PLUS mutated zombie freaks PLUS killer Santa PLUS a serial killer psychiatrist, bitches?” With this episode we got, “Witches? As if. How about witches PLUS immortal infamous racists PLUS Frankenboyfriend PLUS minotaur sex PLUS goat-blood-soaked panties PLUS a boiling jar of jizz PLUS pot smoking molesting mom? Oh, and how about three gruesome murders? How about THAT? Episode THREE, fuckers.”

And yeah, let’s get this out of the way: there’s still an issue with how Ryan Murphy shows depict women; the way he reduces them all down to bitchy caricatures, like drag queens. The main plot arcs all still revolve around women feverishly pursuing beauty, boys, and babies, to the detriment of everyone around them. Silly, vain, dangerous women. This is in direct opposition to the underlying theme of this season, which is specifically about womanhood in a patriarchy and the ways in which subtle power is grasped and wielded by the disenfranchised. If you think about it too much (which we don’t recommend), you come away with an indictment of the concept of women with power (How much death has resulted from it in just three episodes?) rather than a celebration of its subversiveness. You come away with the idea that the story is telling us that women wielding power will use it to pursue socially and culturally supported ideals of womanhood – beautiful, young, sexually desirable, in love, and maternal  - and they’ll destroy anything in their way to achieve those ideals; killing and mutilating people to hold on to an idea of youth, stitching together a boyfriend out of bodyparts, slaughtering a goat to get a baby.

Like we said: drag queens.

But then again, drag queen witches. As much as we might furrow our brows at the conflicting messages here, we can’t help but enjoy the spectacle of it all. And besides, conflicting messages is what Ryan Murphy’s pretty much all about, if you’ve ever seen an episode of Glee where everyone momentarily stops being utterly horrible to everyone around them to dramatically intone how important it is not to be mean to each other, you know what we mean.  That fundamental contradiction between wanting to be a witty bitch and wanting to say Something Important is pretty much in the DNA of Murphy’s work. You have to accept it going in.

Anyway, enough pointless navel-gazing. Was Madison the new Supreme? That seems too easy. Then again, she’s dead so that does tend to muddy things up a bit. But while the story seems clearly set up to position Zoe as the new Supreme, and since dead people don’t necessarily stay dead in this story thanks to shawl-wearing, Stevie-spinning swamp witch Misty Day, it looks more and more like the main arc of this story will be the battle over the throne, so to speak. So far, it’s looking like the contenders are Zoe, Misty, and possibly not-dead-for-long Madison.

But won’t it kinda suck if the battle for the Supreme comes down to the three skinny white girls vying for the throne of the skinny aging white woman while the plus-sized black girl and the developmentally disabled girl watch? Or is this all heading toward Nan gaining the title of Supreme in the end? After all, Fiona mentioned she might be the smartest in the coven. And where does Marie Laveau fit into all this? Or Cordelia, for that matter? A lot of major players in and around this coven.

Bottom line: we’re just loving the hell out of it right now, flaws and all. If there’s one image that could sum up the sublime lunacy of this season so far, it’s Marie Laveau, perched on her voodoo throne in the back of her hair salon, an iPad on her knee as she plays solitaire and says things like “baby gravy.”

How can we not love the shit out of that?

 

 

 

 

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  • Jeremy Thomas Porta

    The Minotaur thing and the Jocasta complex shit were so hard to watch. My boyfriend and I were just covering our eyes during both scenes. I just can’t with Queenie right now. Zoe continues to be incredibly dumb, so that’s not surprising.

    Has anyone else been thinking it’s kind of a bitch move not to tell Misty about the entire school full of witches? What Misty wants more than anything is to be with her “tribe” and Zoe is more or less depriving her of that. Though to be fair, maybe staying far away from the Coven will be the only way Misty doesn’t end up burnt again. Also, how much time has passed? Has this all been like one weekend? Days? Weeks? I have yet to see any actual learning of magic or other witch stuff as of yet. It seems like they have breakfast then break up and go all over town doing weird shit on their own. I was really looking forward to more scenes with all the students and Cordelia and/or Fiona.

    • http://www.tumblr.com/tumblelog/lastbutnotleast janinedm

      Thank you! And Zoe knows that Cordelia and Fiona would know exactly who Misty is. They’ve both mentioned Misty’s death in her presence.

    • MilaXX

      I just assumed she doesn’t feel connected to them. Like a city gal vs country (or swamp) gal type of thing.

    • boweryboy

      Maybe Zoe is a bit more calculating than we think….?

      • tereliz

        I think you might be giving Zoe—”I couldn’t toast bread with the heat they were putting on you”—more credit than she deserves. ;) But hell, I would LOVE to be proven wrong.

      • Gil Magaña

        Zoe seems more careless than calculated. Bringing Kyle to his mother was an incredibly ill-judged act of compassion; he’s a shambling corpse for the most part. I don’t think she thought through how someone could react to that. Now we’ll all have that cringe inducing memory of Mare Winningham’s character snuggling up to the guy and talking about her familiarity with his body.

        • Louise Bryan

          I’m feeling sorry for Mare Winningham these days. Her last two characters that I have seen* have been killed off so fast. Talk about a walking victim.

          (Under the Dome [Agatha], AHS [Alicia Spencer])

    • Darren Nesbitt

      Yeah I guess these US schools are nothing like UK schools (Beauxbatons, Drumstrang, Hogwarts..etc.)

  • Emily Smith

    And off I go to illegally watch this show online because I don’t have cable and GOD FORBID they put the damn show on netflix or hulu anymore. Bah.

    • MilaXX

      I don’t understand why shows hungry from viewership refuse to put shows on their website where they can easily track and prove viewership

      • the_valkyrie

        Because LOGIC!

      • UsedtobeEP

        Oh, good, so it’s not my technological ineptitude. I was looking for it all over the place when I finally decided to dive back in.

      • marlie

        Yep. And a lot of people would even pay for it. That was my biggest complaint about game of thrones… I’d be more that happy to pay per episode to watch, if they’d only give me the chance.

        • maritacov

          I pay per episode to watch AHS. It’s available on Amazon, usually early the next morning. Game of Throne is another story.

    • Guest

      It’s available on Amazon.

  • zenobar

    And the award for “Best Hissing of A Monosyllabic Word on Basic Cable” goes to…LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

    • Sobaika

      I was DYING at that entire scene. Kathy Bates weeping over a black president and the lying magic box is something I never knew I needed.

      • zenobar

        There is just nothing that can compare to Kathy Bates’ patented Crazy-Eye. I LOVED that they held the camera on her just that second too long while she was hissing the word “lies”. You know everyone on that set must have been dying of laughter.

        Also: “I voted for him. Twice.” My night was made.

        • Lucas

          I gotta say, I think Kathy Bates is even outshining Jessica Lange this season, which I hadn’t expected. She is knocking this role out of the park!!

    • tereliz

      Bates’ Lalaurie is really growing on me, I gotta admit. That scene felt overwrought, but it was priceless. I really feel like this show would be shit if not for the amazing actors. Sorry, y’all!

      • Terrie_S

        Agreed. The line between horror and comedy is a surprisingly thin one, hence Mel Brooks’ quote about “Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall through a manhole and die.” The acting is what keeps this series on the intended side of the line.

  • http://communionoflight.com/ Frank Butterfield

    Since I’m constantly on the road, it’s hard to catch any show that’s not on a big-four network or TNT/TBS/Lifetime (and that can be iffy). So, I am infinitely grateful for this recap. I’ve not been interested in this show until this season and I have you, dear T and lovely Lo, to thank for it.

    That said… “That fundamental contradiction between wanting to be a witty bitch and wanting to say Something Important is pretty much in the DNA of Murphy’s work. You have to accept it going in.” I’m getting early-warning signs that you might, at some point, throw up your four hands and say, “Enough of this fundamental contradiction,” as you did with Glee. As much as anyone, I know that change is the only constant in life, but please don’t give up too soon!

  • ovarB

    Jessica Lange and her delivery of “the dance” was intoxicating and haunting. So many great lines though!!!

    • Lucas

      Yes!! I think that was an INCREDIBLE intro to this episode. “The dance”…leading her right into that plastic surgeon’s office… that was a really great look into her character. One of the best scenes this season.

      • ovarB

        And when she told the Surgeon “I want to see how the sausage is made,” and then shed TEARS?!?!!! So cold and emotionless while showing she is indeed vulnerable and with an expiration date.

        • tereliz

          I loved the vulnerability contrasted with her toughness in this scene. This episode also showed exactly how superficial and aloof she can be.

          LOL, you know the real reason she killed Madison was because the girl would have just taken the power and poured it back into herself and dressed it in Hervé Léger instead of Chanel. ;)

          • Shug

            All I could think about during A) Madison and Fiona’s little brunch scene and B) the “field trip” scene from the first episode was how I definitely need to start wearing exclusively LBDs with a fabulous black hat, shades, and heels. Ugh. Werk, ladies.

  • TrixieConQueso

    Absolutely on the floor with laughter when Kathy Bates was horrified about having a BLACK PRESIDENT. Mocking certain Tea Baggers like that (“you are like someone from the 1800s”) was a hilarious comparison. And I just can’t get enough of Jessica Lange. Could watch her for days on end. Truly amazing how she has hung on to the Sexy Kitten Vibe for so damn long. Rawr – and You Go Girl.

    • Ramon Figueroa

      But what I loved about bate’s reaction is that what finally sends her over the edge is the mention of a black poet laureate. Is like she could not stand the fact that a black person could be so honored by the culture.

      • ovarB

        I loved that!! So nuanced and calculating in saving that last little tidbit for Ms. LaLaurie.

  • Sobaika

    You know things are craycray when a Minotaur seduction scene is not the most depraved thing you’ve seen.

    • Eric Stott

      When the Mother / Son action started, I stared at the screen repeating “No. No. No. No. No. NO. NO. NO”

      • Sobaika

        There was a collective shudder around television sets everywhere. UGH.

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        That was when my husband gave up watching the episode last night

        • Eric Stott

          I had a clue when she said his body was different, but then we found out how she KNEW that everything was different….evidently the girls selected the best parts.

          • Jeremy Thomas Porta

            Oh yes, honey.

      • UsedtobeEP

        I changed the channel because I was afraid my neighbors could see the screen.

  • Ramon Figueroa

    Love that as horrible as Fiona is, the thing she cannot stand is a racist. And she voted for Obama. Twice. Is that good or bad? And her line, “I’ve lived a disreputable life, but I’ve done it with style.” That’s very Oscar Wilde/drag queen

  • jeanzhane

    “She needs to work on her aim.” ROTFL.

  • desertsweetpea

    Where oh where is Frances Conroy aka Myrtle Snow?!

    • Ramon Figueroa

      I think she is coming back on the next episode, where it seems they are going to deal with the repercussions of Fiona killing Madison. Can’t wait.

      • tereliz

        And was that “The French Teacher” (Robin Bartlett) I saw coming with her to lay the hammer down?

        • Chevalle

          And Leslie Jordan

          • D J H

            Okay, I love these recaps and the comments, but this show hasn’t quite tipped over into “I must watch”. Until: Leslie Jordan. If I were a gay rent boy, I would be SO up in his grill.

          • formerlyAnon

            This blog. Where ELSE do I read/hear sentences beginning “If I were a gay rent boy . . .,” I ask you?

  • JDreesen

    okay, i admitted last week that i have never seen AHS (and still haven’t), but – mostly due to last week’s post – i am now actively reading these recaps.

    and, because i have never seen the show, i originally thought your statement about people not staying dead for very long ended with “shawl-wearing.” which excited me to no end, the possibility of that. then i realized that it was only a partial description of a character on the show. and then the laughter began, and i have yet to recover.

    now the conflict begins over whether to continue being oblivious to the show and entertaining myself instead via misconstruing your posts, essentially writing a new show altogether wherein fashion choices dictate mortality*, or to surrender myself completely to the urge (not to mention what’s left of my DVR’s dwindling cache of available recording space) and just dig in alongside all these other BKs for the scrumptious feast Murphy has set before us.

    decisions, decisions.

    * oh, that’s already been done; forgot about the Rachel Zoe project.

  • http://lazycircles.blogspot.com/ Sam Hawk

    Plus Christine Ebersole! This show is a Broadway queen’s dream.

  • SewingSiren

    My youngest son went to school dressed like the Minotaur today. I hope none of the teachers watch this show.

    • Nikko Viquiera

      OMG! haha.

    • Darren Nesbitt

      My predictions: Minotaur vs. Frankenboy, Laveau vs. Goode, Zoe vs. Her dumb self, Misty vs. Cordelia (maybe). Lalaurie vs. Silent Butler Man.

  • tereliz

    “Great. When’s the next new moon?”

    BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!

    Bitch, you are a WITCH and you don’t know when the next new moon is?

    • Jeremy Thomas Porta

      I know, right? That’s what I said watching that scene. The greatest part was how earnest she looked in those big googly-eye glasses.

      • BayTampaBay

        Is she married to a mortal or warlock?

    • http://victoriapavlova.com Victoria Pavlova

      Exactly what I thought! So silly of her not to know. First second I thought the GrandVoodooB*tch laughed at that.

  • Angela_the_Librarian

    I’m still a bit confused about how the house they’re staying in is a school. I don’t expect it to be Hogwarts, but I thought there would be actual lessons or classroom sessions at some point. Is it just a social club for witches?

    I was left a bit flat by this episode. There was some great dialogue, but didn’t really understand the point of the minotaur scenes (actually don’t understand the LaLaurie plot very much, beyond as an antagonist to Angela Bassett’s character) and not sure where the Frankeboyfriend story is going either. I am much more excited about next week’s episode based on the teasers (Frances Conroy is back and it looks like a coven council is getting together!)

    • Eric Stott

      The place started out as a school, but the Witches eventually took it over, keeping the name as a cover for the public. It appears that lessons are “What can you do?” and “Don’t do it in public”

    • Madam Von Sassypants

      I have to agree. There were so many plot holes, one dimensional characters, unexplained actions, and general what-the-fuckery (the latter of which I know is an AHS trademark) that I was left disappointed. I love the HELL out of this season’s premise and will still watch the shit out of it, but I keep thinking of how much BETTER it could be if so many arcs didn’t revolve around the boys, babies, and beauty.

      Definitely agree with the school concept too. In the beginning Cordelia had a facet other than being baby-obsessed, and that was teaching the girls to control their witchery. Thus far none of that has appeared.

  • Glam Dixie

    I have to admit to being confused as to how the ‘house boy’ became a minotaur. Kathy Bates’ character isn’t a witch, she’s just an awful human being, so how does torturing the slave and then sticking a bulls head on him turn him into some kind of immortal creature? Did I miss something when I was watching through my fingers?

    • tereliz

      That’s something I hope is addressed, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • Sobaika

      I think Marie made him into an immortal minotaur to keep him around..?

      • MilaXX

        that was the impression I got.

      • the_valkyrie

        Can’t understand why she would keep someone she loved in that condition…

        • tereliz

          That’s exactly what I want explained. I mean, were they planning on waiting a whole two hundred years to wake up Miss Pitty-Pat and THEN make her life miserable? Miserable-er? And the minotaur-boyfriend was like, okay, sure, sounds like fun, I’m in. Let’s sew this bull’s head on permanently. Or something. :P

          • Madam Von Sassypants

            And his hands are partially cloven! So it’s gone beyond just the head. I definitely had a creeped-out moment when you saw his hand/hoof on Queenie’s shoulder.

        • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

          i think she may be into bestiality.

          • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

            That’s been my impression.

        • Jeremy Thomas Porta

          Maybe it was the price she paid to keep him alive.

          • the_valkyrie

            Was he dead when they stormed the house? Couldn’t she just remove the bull head and do the spell she did on herself?

          • Jeremy Thomas Porta

            Yeah it doesn’t really make sense. The only thing I can think of is that maybe she found out he slept with that other girl and decided to punish him. Or maybe there’s no reason whatsoever and the writers just wanted a minotaur.

    • Shawn EH

      She seems like a witch to me. Bathing in her victim’ s blood, conjuring a beast from a man, immortal … she’s mythological.

  • KingCrazy

    I can’t believe your recap failed to mention anything about Precious diddling herself in front of a minotaur.

    • MilaXX

      “How about witches PLUS immortal infamous racists PLUS Frankenboyfriend PLUS minotaur sex PLUS goat-blood-soaked panties PLUS a boiling jar of jizz PLUS pot smoking molesting mom? ”
      ^There it is.^

    • tereliz

      I feel like I want to just block the whole thing from my mind until next week when I’m sure she’s not dead. :(

    • BayTampaBay

      She’s a human voodoo doll…she was diddling him…the beast.

      • jjtxgrrl

        Ohhh. I didn’t catch that aspect…. that makes sense though. I think I was so horrified/ confused I didn’t know WHAT I was watching!!

      • KingCrazy

        And in doing this, she still had to diddle herself.

        All I was getting at, is that Precious fingered herself on cable television.

  • TLJezebel

    I vote for line #1 although it was a tough choice. I want to live in that house.

    • tereliz

      The interior is a set, but the exterior is on Jackson Ave. in the Garden District.

      • Jeremy Thomas Porta

        Did you see the behind-the-scenes video about the set on youtube? It was beyond fabulous.

        • tereliz

          No, my good friend is one of the locations scouts. I’ll have to check out that video, thanks!

  • MilaXX

    I get what you are saying about Ryan Murphy’s depiction of women, but I think AHS is one of those shows that require not thinking too much about, much less over thinking. It’s probably best described as a show that is felt or experienced. I for one am loving having all these divas in place and bringing it each week.

    • Terrie_S

      AHS is best appreciated as a series of shocking moments and scenery chewing. Trying to draw those moments together in a consistent manner will just cause headaches.

    • marlie

      This. My boyfriend didn’t her why I was to thrilled… “That’s Patty Lupone!!!” and “Mare Winningham is on this season!!!”

  • Inspector_Gidget

    AHS reminds me of those Andy Warhol horror movies. Getting more and more shocking as they progress, making less and less sense. At this point the plot almost doesn’t matter. With so many moments you’ll never see on TV again, who cares? Fun.

  • http://www.lifeinspice.com/ rose88

    You forgot “‘I’ve led a disreputable life, but I’ve done it in style.” I’m stealing that line on my deathbed!

    • BayTampaBay

      When I was watching, I thought she said…” but I’ve done it in Chanel”! LOL! LOL!

      • jjtxgrrl

        I thought she said Chanel too!!!

  • formerlyAnon

    I am unreasonably fixated on how many climactic events it would require to harvest two full ounces of “baby gravy.” Surely it’s variable. And the mechanics of collection. And imagining measuring and thinking “damn, only 1.85 ounces.”

    • boweryboy

      Right? My partner was all, “2 ounces!? That’s a lot of baby gravy.”

      • formerlyAnon

        Right? And I have this mental image of how, exactly, one instructs one’s partner “now honey, don’t do yourself any personal favors before I get home tonight, it’s important to me that you be maximally, um, productive, um, juicy . . . “

    • Glam Dixie

      And I’m sure it would have to be kept refrigerated….how do you explain THAT jar in the fridge.

      • formerlyAnon

        My thought was “and I bet you have to sterilize the jar, like baby bottles.”

      • Lea Setegn

        But refrigeration would kill the sperm, right? So would heat. Making the inclusion in the ritual make no sense at all. Just sayin’.

        • Glam Dixie

          I don’t think so, horses and cattle are bred via frozen semen so I think it would be viable for a while after refrigeration.

    • tereliz

      LOL, we thought of that too. My hubby was like, “damn, it would take me a week to collect that much baby gravy.”

  • boweryboy

    Queenie is one freaky mofo.
    I mean, she sees a minotaur in her backyard and her first thought is getting some? Damn, gurl. You kinky.

    • Jeremy Thomas Porta

      Well…he does have nice abs.

  • Jumpingjacks

    I just don’t hope that Queenie was seducing the Minotaur just because she also has some special vajayjay power.. I think one sex related power is more than enough

  • Gil Magaña

    ” it looks more and more like the main arc of this story will be the
    battle over the throne, so to speak. So far, it’s looking like the
    contenders are Zoe, Misty, and possibly not-dead-for-long Madison.”
    I’m starting to think the writers are winking at the audience in regards to the answer to this. Mention was made of the “seven wonders”. Fleetwood Mac released a single with that title back in 1987.

    • Jeremy Thomas Porta

      I thought of that song too. I bet they’re going to say that Stevie is a witch for real.

      • Shawn EH

        Misty is sure of it!

      • http://stylingdutchman.blogspot.com/ annebeth

        that would be so cool

    • tereliz

      On a mostly unrelated note, “Dreams” has been playing on repeat in my head for the past three weeks. Except when “Rhiannon” is playing. ;)

  • Shug

    I vote for quote number 2.

  • Tânia

    I don’t think Zoe is set to be the nest Supreme, she’s kind of irrelevant on the show

    • tereliz

      At first I thought Zoe was going to be the audience’s “window character”, the one who guides us through the story, the one we sympathize with, but aside from introducing us to the school, she’s been a mostly passive character so far—the one thing she’s really done to show some ovaries was kill the almost dead frat boy who raped Madison. I hope that changes, but as of now, I really don’t want her to be the supreme. She has ONE power. And it sucks.

      • SnackBandit

        I think this is why I sympathize most with Zoe…in a world of powerful, awesome witches, the only thing she can draw on his having sex to kill people (and so far, it seems she requires the ride on a penis, so she can’t kill cis-women). She’s passive because she has no other choice. How could she take on a telekenetic pyromancer bitch queen like Madison?

        • Jeremy Thomas Porta

          I’m just guessing, but I think that what we’ve seen of her power is just the tip of the iceberg and that there are other applications of it. Death by vagina doesn’t really seem like a power.

          • Shawn EH

            Zoe’s fhe only one with an inkling of morality, so she’s still my window character. Little did she know she was returning Frankenboy to his abuser.

          • Jeremy Thomas Porta

            Yeah, but it was still not very well thought out. I was honestly surprised that the mother didn’t flip her shit and go crazy upon seeing the son she thought was dead. Little did we know she was already crazy.

          • Shawn EH

            Well, confessing to Zoe on first meeting her that she had just fortuitously interrupted her suicide attempt might have been a clue.

  • BookManFilm

    I LOVE THIS SHOW. Last season was television cocaine but this is shaping up to be televisual crack – i cannot get enough. The Supreme? My money is on the beautiful boy next door – but who knows, by the end of next week he could be an immortal dead zombie movie star animal man. just saying’.

  • Agatha Guilluame

    The season isn’t just about powerful women. But about powerless, savage men. Almost, every man we meet is in service to a more powerful woman or women. If these men speak at all it’s in grunts and in violence. When they act at all, its based on instinct or in service to a woman. They have no agency. And consequently little to no lines…the butler, the minotaur, Kyle, the frat boys, even the newly introduced neighbor who’s still on his mama’s teat. Even the three male doctors we’ve met, even these smart men have been exposed as limited, powerless and slow on the uptake.

    • tereliz

      Totally see your point and I don’t want to be dismissive of it. But…

      Isn’t that pretty much exactly how women have been portrayed in media for the past, I don’t know, five-hundred years? Yes, I’d rather have a more balanced cast of characters who act like real people (like Orange is the New Black. While the cast is predominantly women, the male characters are pretty fleshed out by the end of the season), but if the one-dimensional characters are going to be mostly men for once, I guess I don’t really mind all that much. Here’s hoping they get some more development before the end of the season.

      • Agatha Guilluame

        Oh I’m not against the fact that the men are being portrayed as one-dimensional caricatures. The funny thing is it hasn’t taken anything away from the show at all. Jessica Lange, Angela Bassett and Kathy Bates are chewing up the scenery.

    • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

      I honestly don’t think it’s “about” powerless, savage men. I think the powerless, savage men are a direct result of women wielding power. In other words, in my opinion, what you’re talking about is the ways in which the story explores the repercussions of the main theme, which is women wielding power.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOctocornNetwork International Model

    While the objectives are ultimately feminine in nature for the female cast, the way the writers are having the characters go after their goals is more aggressive and ballsy (drag queeny?) than what is usually seen. This is important, but maybe only to me. “Feminine virtue” has been shown only as true if it is come about by not using every trick of Eve. There’s no such thing as feminine virtue on this show – it’s feminine need, for good or bad. I feel that Ryan Murphy is ultimately good at is pointing out that overall, no matter what you look like or where you come from, we all have basic human needs. And if Queenie and Nan get a chance to really shine in this story, that point will be richer.

  • JaCory Deon

    Perhaps it was inevitable that this show would become so campy and self-aware, but I don’t know. I enjoy the scene chewing as much as the next but feel, on some level, it is a waste of these actresses talent to turn them into drag queens (something I never felt while watching Sister Jude from season 2 or even Lana). I like this show but almost want Murphy to go have a Bergman movie marathon then come back and write these female characters. There’s a point where people need to be enlightened, not just entertained (it’s possible to do both though hard to pull off), and I fear this season is treading too far in the later category. (As an aside, he really has little affinity for writing well-developed male characters.)

  • UsedtobeEP

    OK. Was not going to watch this season. I had to give up last season because AHS just wasn’t getting me in the holiday spirit, and because Mr. Quinto just plain gives me the heebs. But, I caved last night. So far, so much fun!

  • marlie

    My favorite line was #2! And I love last night’s episode, even though the scenes with Kyle and his mother, and Queenie and the Minotaur gave me the heebs.

    I’ve also converted the bf. Two weeks ago he was all “what the hell are we watching!?” and yesterday was “when does American Horror Story come on?”

  • Irish Rodriguez Reyes

    Please don’t hiss at me but has anyone else been watching “Witches of East End” on Lifetime? Not as sublime as Coven but not bad either.

    • Darren Nesbitt

      Is it like Vamp diaries?

      • Irish Rodriguez Reyes

        I wouldn’t know since I haven’t seen the show (Vamp) but it’s like a darker, less campy version of “Charmed” and Julia Ormond does a pretty good job as a reluctant witch who has to deal with an evil doppelganger. The other actors aren’t as good but the story is interesting.

    • jjtxgrrl

      It felt a little too “lifetime” for me.

  • Fred Vaughn

    #2, but there were SOOOOOOO many all-star classics!

  • LittleKarnak

    1st: best line for me was “That magic box is full of lies!!” LOL, get it, Kathy Bates! I’m with ya, Jeremy Thomas Porta, most of this ep was very hard to watch…I’ll never look at Mare Winningham the same again. And is it just me or is there a young Eileen Brennan (looks-wise) vibe coming from Lily Rabe aka Misty Day?

  • JustSayin’

    I was disappointed with Laveau. I was hoping with her superior second sight she would be able to see that Cordelia is a kinder, gentler soul than her mother, and as one witch to another suggest that she try the “baby gravy” of another man before taking part in a voodoo pow-wow that has more blood sacrifice involved than Rosemary’s Baby. Maybe Hank is meant to raise the baby but another is meant to provide the seed. Universe works in mysterious ways. Also, Misty has Supreme written all over her. Not only is she looking for her “tribe” but raising the dead single-handed is no small power. This is a hedge witch to the power of a million.

    One of Murphy’s theme this season appears to be hypocrisy. Fiona accuses Delphine of cruelty but sucks the life out of her doctor. She also accuses Delphine of racism but she herself quickly dismisses Tituba as an “illiterate slave girl.” Delphine is constantly harping on the looks and/or weight of others while not exactly being a beauty queen herself. Fiona/Delphine/Marie enjoy imposing their will on others but demand free will for themselves.

  • GeorgiaMaude

    I so want to love this season, what with it being set in my favorite city, and I love all of those actresses (except Emma Roberts, who I so hope remains dead), but my sister and I sadly agree that this writing is a tired retread of a 1950s narrative of bug-eyed black voodooiennes and cheap fat-girl jokes. Queenie? Really? It’s a white gay man’s fantasy of sassy, fierce black womanhood and boy, is it tired. Camp is fun, but this kind of essentialism–not so much.

    • Terrie_S

      I don’t know that I can specifically be irritated Murphy for the whole “I Walked With a Zombie” retread, when everything he writes is at that same level.. The characters on AHS have always been cardboard Hollywood archetypes. Well-acted cardboard Hollywood archetypes, but that’s the best you can say about them. So while I may shake my head at it, I see it as par for the course.

  • bobman59

    My only expectation from AHS is that it is entertaining. And boy, does it entertain. I love the visual signals of the feminine juxtaposed with the brutality of these women. Madison’s beautiful shoes and ankles poking out of a blood soaked carpet roll. Fiona shedding a tear while watching how the sausage is made. Lalaurie applying fresh blood to keep her waddle youthful. I’m drawn in by the beauty and then enjoy the shock when the spectacle unfolds. So if there are plot holes or something doesn’t add up neatly, I don’t really care. This cat has definitely got my tongue.

  • QueenOfTheWorld

    Jessica Lange is a master at her craft. Evil, seductive, brilliant, conniving, beautiful and brilliant!
    Kathy Bates is an artiste at anything she does!
    Angela Bassett is drop dead gorgeous. She may actually know the secret to youth.

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