TLOunge

Posted on September 19, 2013

We’re feeling the need for somewhere dark, Old World, and masculine, kittens.

 

The Library Bar, Copenhagen

Mmmm. Wood and leather. Can’t beat it. Grab a seat and let’s all murmur like gentlemen.

Pictures of things:

Guest judge Zanna Roberts Rassi, Zac Posen, Heidi Klum and Erin Fetherston

Oh, sweet Mary, Mother of Pearl. We’re out. It’s the so-called “real woman” challenge.

 

 

Oh, Christ. Listen, all we ask is that you channel your rage in a healthy fashion, Kittens. Remember to take your blood pressure and check your heart rate on a regular basis, mkay? Perhaps some responsible, non-drinking Kittens can post periodic reminders in the comments section to ensure no one has an anger-induced stroke or heart attack tonight?

Oh, and who are these so-called “super-fans” who came in for a little humiliation? Speak up, ladies. We know you’re out there.

 

 

 

[Photo Credit: Barbara Nitke for Lifetime, librarybar.dk - Video Credit: Lifetime]

    • JDreesen

      murmur murmur murmur what are those, breasts? murmur murmur murmur jersey knit murmur murmur run offstage crying.

      • rh33

        murmur murmur plaid murmur murmur uneven hem line murmur murmur ugh curves

        • JDreesen

          yes yes, true true murmur murmur taxes

      • rainwood1

        Murmur murmur I don’t design for — murmur murmur I’ve never made anything for someone so bi– murmur murmur I don’t know if I bought enough fab– murmur murmur A-line dress imurmur murmur.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      It smells amazing in here. I’ll just grab my riding crop and a Jameson, neat, and be at a nice big table.

      • zenobar

        Like leather and manly vetiver-based cologne.

      • Janet B

        I’ll join you with a Jameson.

    • Brittney P

      I have to admit, I’m being the opposite of a gentleman (or gentlewoman in my case). Sitting in sweatpants and drinking wine (over ice, since I didn’t feel like waiting for it to chill) out of a plastic cup with a straw. It’s my Friday!

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Wrap the bottle in a wet paper towel and stick it in the freezer for a couple minutes. Works wonders. And doesn’t water down the wine. I also swear by plastic ice cubes.

        • Brittney P

          Thank you for sharing your genius ways.

          • kfarrel3

            You can also freeze grapes and use them instead of ice cubes! :)

        • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

          The quality of white wine I buy is often improved by being watered down!

    • Miss_Led

      Methinks Ken’s smile looks a little forced…

      • wontons

        When the clients were first introduced, the shot of the designers could have been used as a visual definition of “fake smile.” You could almost hear them thinking “What fresh hell is this?”

        • AnneElliot

          LOVE the Dorothy Parker quote!! Exaaaactly!

    • Funkykatt

      There is no way in the world ever that I would participate in this. I mean I can be quite bold and mouthy but never ever never, even wasted, would I say “yes”.

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com/ The Gifted Collector

        You’d wonder why anyone, if these are indeed superfans who should know how this inevitably ends, would ever sign up for this torture.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          That’s what I was thinking. We all cringe at this episode every year, and the “real women” are routinely humiliated.

          • AnneElliot

            I would not do this for all the designer clothing in the world, not even to meet Heidi and Nina. (I actually met Tim Gunn at a fashion show and book signing two years ago, he is just as nice in person as he is on TV.)

            • http://www.GiftedCollector.com/ The Gifted Collector

              There’s a new Tim Gunn interview on Larry King’s Ora show. Of course, Tim is charming and Mrs. King is insufferable.

          • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

            This is another one of my unfavorite challenges. It’s always great to see a non-model, non-celeb get the special treatment and have a dress made for her that makes her feel beautiful. I hope the designers are able to succeed, and I hope that none of these ladies have to walk the runway in an unfinished garment.

      • Iva

        I would absolutely participate in this. I would request the absolute bitchiest designer on the body-policing front just so I could destroy him/her on national television. Gurl, you may be a bitchy little princess, but I am the Queen Bitch. The problem isn’t my body, it’s your lack of creativity and construction skills. Burn. Table flip. Mic drop.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I bow to your amazing-ness.

          • Iva

            Haha. I just really want one of the plus sized girls to one day just tell her designer to hush and learn to make patterns.

            • formerlyAnon

              THIS. They AREN’T asking you to make a garment from a photo of the woman, or even from a set of measurements. You get to SEE them and measure them, observe their body language and posture and sketch (if not take photos) of them for reference. It may not be easy, but it sure could be a lot harder to make a satisfactory garment that will work for one particular individual.

        • Victoria S

          I was just thinking this while watching tonight. I would totally sign up for this so I could throw my size 22/24 body at the designer most likely to have a melt down over it and tell him/her that if I could manage to flat pattern pants, a skirt, and a body block using my own measurements with NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE for a construction class I took, then they certainly ought to be able to handle it when it’s supposed to be their JOB. Also I would throw in as much fat acceptance/anti-body-policing rhetoric as I could whenever possible, lol.

          • MegaeraThe3rdFury

            I would so watch that. Of course I would have to re-watch it so I could hear everything over the sound of my own constant applause. Somebody tell Tim this real lady is up for it ^^^^^ !!

    • kimmeister

      Aw, it looks like Zac is on his tiptoes in that picture!

      • TritoneTelephone

        But then, so are the ladies. Their shoes are just doing all the work.

    • MilaXX

      I got this email a while back, rolled my eyes and clicked delete. I am a contest junkie and I would go near this with a ten foot pole. The potential for assholery is too high.

      • BrooklynBomber

        You got an EMAIL about it? That means they know about you! {shudder}

        • MilaXX

          no, just the regular listserve.

          • BrooklynBomber

            I didn’t know there was a listserv.

            Any regrets?

            • MilaXX

              no I just get promo emails and such

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com/ The Gifted Collector

        Are you saying you got an email soliciting contestants for this? Please tell us more.

        • MilaXX

          Nothing special. It was just a general email sent to everyone on Lifetime’s mailing list.

          • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

            They’rrrrrrrrrrrre watching youuuuuuuuu……

            • Sarah

              Yay new avatar! YOU BETTER GET SOMEBODY!!!!!

    • Qitkat

      Scary that one of the women is sobbing in the makeup chair.

      • Qitkat

        And it somehow became her crying with nerves on the pre-runway in the televised ep.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I was wondering where that went…

    • hughman

      “Non-drinking kittens”? That is a world of which I do not wish to belong.

      • zenobar

        Hear, hear.

        • NYCGlamourpuss

          (*Sheepishly raises hand*) It’s okay. I have a really low tolerance – like, I am literally The Human Two Drink Minimum. I got invited to every party in college though – because I barely drank, and I had a car. I was the campus designated driver for four fucking years, y’all. I drove home more people who I’d never even *met* when they were sober! And in my later years after moving to NYC, I poured more drunk co-workers into cabs than I care to count. “Here’s her address. Here’s a $20 from her wallet. Just pull up and roll her out onto the stoop, she’ll be fine.”

    • Funkykatt

      Heidi says some weird stuff but she’s on ‘breast patrol’. What does that mean?

      • unpious

        I’m picturing her in a Sherlock Holmes hat and a giant magnifying glass, inspecting the chests of all those poor unfortunate souls who found themselves on that runway.

    • Anathema_Device

      So the little dickwad who said “I don’t design for 40 year olds” is going to lose his mind….again. Sorry I haven’t learned their names yet. Taking a scattershot approach to this season. My life is the better for it. But I do miss the bitter kittens!

    • Bethany Roullett

      I considered it for half a second. And then I realized you needed a twitter account to enter, which I don’t have. No Twitter has saved me again! But If there was a contest to have lunch with Tim Gunn, then I would have been all over it.

    • Lynn Landry

      I’m taping tonight’s episode and going out to a real bar.

    • valerie747

      Tanqueray martini, straight up, 2 olives.

    • Ros

      OMG, that’s Susi being measured up by Ken. Poor Susi!

    • Sarah

      We had a work party today for a girl who is moving to a new position (with a 14K raise!! I swear I don’t think she’s a BITCH!!) and I ate three different kinds of cake and a marshmallow treat and a huge salad to try and counteract the sugar, resulting in major indigestion. I am feeling like a REAL WOMAN, that’s for sure. I can’t wait to drown my poor ass sorrows in vitriol and beer. Harumph.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        I do. I think she’s a bitch.

        • Sarah

          It is an astronomical raise, for what amounts to very little difference in her job. I am just appalled. And what is crazy, is we work for the local gov’t, and they are always asking us about ways we can save money because times is hard, y’know. I can think of a way….

          • AnneElliot

            $14K is unbelievable. I also work for the city, but I can assure you I am not getting a raise that large.

      • Call me Bee

        Come sit next to me, hon. We’ll have some fun together.

        • Sarah

          Thanks! I’m trying to remember my measly paycheck is at least enough for satellite TV and copious alcohol, so I can’t complain that much.

          • Call me Bee

            Well–sometimes it’s the simple things….

            • UsedtobeEP

              I like your new bee, Bee.

      • zenobar

        I don’t have any beer, but I do have a bottle of IKEA sparkling pear and a bottle of vodka. If you pour in enough of the vodka it makes the pear stuff pretty potable. (I don’t know if it’s 14K worth of potability, but it’s enough to make you relax.) Cheers, and hey: f**k all that noise tonight!

        • Sarah

          Cheers to you as well. And I agree on the noise!

      • AnneElliot

        Today was my last day at my job and we also had three kinds of dessert, but I actually brought two of them — I work with the nicest people in the world and I’ll miss them terribly. We didn’t even bother with salad.

        • Sarah

          The salad was my own lunch. It was a mistake. Too many kinds of food = major stomach upset. Ugh.

    • bertkeeter

      The best thing about the PR finale was there was a no show decoy collection from that FOOL, Ken!
      I trust that this is his exit week. He needs to go home and ponder his ridiculous behavior on season 12!

      • AnneElliot

        That is the best news I heard today!! Woohoo!

      • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

        He’s tweeting that PR is a farce. I think he said it was fixed but I don’t want to quote him incorrectly. I’d imagine that he will start talking at the end of the season or after his exit. I read an interview of him so I can’t remember where I read what. He sounds so sensible and together when he is interviewed. In fact, on the show he has a nice command of the English language. He is an articulate fellow when he isn’t battling frustration and self-loathing. He says he had no idea that he was making the faces he made. His faces are frightening. I hope that PR doesn’t bring him back for an All-Stars show, but I’m guessing that he won’t part with the show on good terms. The previews are scary.

        I notice that my AT&T cable summary for the show lists the designers who appear on the show and the remaining designers, except for Ken.

        • Fanny_Trollope

          Ken’s Twitter feed says: @_KenLaurence_ OMG, if u all really knew how much I wanted 2 go home! LOL I would hve never thrown the challenge w/ tht awful ugly dress if I wanted 2 stay

          • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

            He probably had mixed feelings. He didn’t win a challenge, did he? And he was in the bottom two several times. He struggled a lot. I think it’s a relief–to an extent–for any competitor to be sent home packing but Ken is sour grapes. He isn’t necessarily honest. He hugged Alexander when he left. No hard feelings? I don’t believe that.

            I was surprised to feel sad when he got axed. I’d like to see him do well. I read somewhere that he is going to (design?) school. When he looks relaxed, he has a beautiful face. He is extremely articulate when he summarizes events. He needs therapy or someone to help him channel his anger. As he is now, he can be downright cruel. That was mean of him to stand in front of the hotel room and continue to iron so that Alexander couldn’t get into the room. I have a feeling that even more transpired in order for Tim to be called upon to sort things out.

    • Cele Deemer

      Let the drama fest begin!

    • Call me Bee

      Gee–I was just in Copenhagen and how did I not go to this awesome lounge??!?! Well–next year. Meanwhile, I love all the leather and I feel as though I should have some Glenfiddich or something…but I’ll have my usual vodka on the rocks.

      Re: the upcoming episode–I thought WE, the PUF/BKs, were the Superfans. Who are these imposters?!?!

    • crash1212

      I’m putting my money on Krazy Ken being the one to make his “real life” model cry. Easy money. Also, I guess it was just a matter of time that a full fledged war was declared between cast and Ken.

      • Ros

        No, if you look at the photo of Ken measuring a woman, she’s definitely not the one crying in the video.

        • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

          maybe they all end up crying. i would…

        • AnneElliot

          I didn’t see any of the superfans crying!! I’ll have to go back and watch again.

    • oyeyemi808

      I”be wondered about how they pick those Superfans.

      • Stubenville

        Knowing how cheap the producers are, they probably had an intern sell tickets on a street corner in Times Square.

      • kathy

        They had a contest where you had to submit a video

    • http://communionoflight.com/ Frank Butterfield

      For once I was looking for TLounge because, as I am always a-travelin, I never know if my hotel room will have Lifetime or not and this one does and I’m expecting a delicious evening of dramedy, and it seemed like TLounge was never going to start so I went and read EVERY ONE of the Musical Mondays and drooled, once again, over Stew Pot, but now TLounge is here and all I can say is thank Goddess and make mine a Pisco and Coke, but only if you have the Chilean kind, preferably the rotgut known as Pisco Capel, otherwise make it sweet and syrupy with Chambord and 7-Up, cause I gots to get all kind of drunk in order to watch this show!

    • Cheryl

      IN A WORLD…why does the announcer sound like he’s narrating a disaster epic?

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        Foreshadowing the epic disaster that is The Real Woman Challenge?

      • nancy robinson

        Truth in advertising.

    • BelleBook

      This is going to be a disaster — for Ken! And I’ll probably be saying “What a maroon” to him!

      • AnneElliot

        Thank you for the Bugs Bunny reference. Love it.

        • UsedtobeEP

          An ultra-maroon…

        • BelleBook

          You’re more than welcome. I love Bugs Bunny, and his comment is perfect for guys like Ken (and Ven from two seasons ago, as well as Sandro from this season).

    • Imasewsure

      Ken should have a terminal hissy fit tonight and get auf’d so I’ll watch.

      • Sarah

        I know, but I thought for sure that would happen LAST week, so I am not counting on anything. Although, he doesn’t design for anyone over 40, right? Jackass.

      • zenobar

        I cannot wait for him to lose his shit for good and all, and get his ass auf’d. Y’know, I’ve tried for years to be a more “enlightened” human being, and try to see the wounded little person inside of these types of angry nasty people, and usually it works, but this one: the Force* is strong with this one.

        *And by “Force” I mean the nasty, angry, pissy personality that makes me want to throw shit at the TV.

        • NYCGlamourpuss

          And our wish was granted! Yaaaas!

      • valerie747

        I found Ken Laurence on Facebook. Here’s what he says: Ken Laurence
        September 17 via mobile
        Don’t judge nor question my character / personality based on a television show! This is not a disclaimer at all but do understand that over 15 hours of filming a day is edited into ONE hr of TV. Don’t get confused between my personality and my attitude. My personality is who I am, my attitude depends on WHO YOU ARE! This is my first and last time addressing the issue of the public (Project Runway’s target audience) I suggest you watch TV and continue with your life or “That Character” will arise.

        • Courtney

          Well isn’t he just charming.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            Bless his heart!

        • Frank_821

          SUK :p

        • Jacquelyn

          “That Character” will arise. Like some mythic Leviathan from the sea! RAWR!

        • Sarah

          What if I’d prefer to watch TV without “That Character” on it? How about that, Mr. Multiple Personality Disorder? Jeez.

        • Frank_821

          Personally I think this is a rather immature response from Ken. Of course there’s more to Ken than those temper tantrums. Of course editing is a factor. Even Sue said in an interview she doesn’t hate Ken and it is clear at least some of the people on the show like him.

          However there’s no arguing he’s got issues and he has not dealt with the stress well. A lot of the drama that has been aired can be partly traced to his own behaviour. Even some of the Sandro related drama was expaserated by him

          • Sarah

            I think everybody thinks it’s rather immature ;)

          • MilaXX

            Heather B from Real World original cast had it right years ago when she said, “They only show what you give them.” I believe Ken is not completely insufferable 100% of the time. However, he was insufferable enough to give the editors more than enough to make this crazy guy narrative. In this day of social media. I expect people to know better.

            • AnneElliot

              I agree. I met Chloe Dao a few weeks ago and she was absolutely lovely and charming. She was always one of my favorite contestants on PR and she was even nicer in person than she was on the show. I’m sure the schedule and editing bring out the worst in people, but they can’t blame it all on the editors.

            • Frank_821

              Oh yes Heather. From a time when Real World was interesting-before the hot tub.

              Back when i watched the show she was probably the person i respected the most who appeared on reality tv. I always like how she owned her behaviour-warts and all. She never made excuses for how she came across. Then again she wasn’t a camera whore either

            • formerlyAnon

              I agree they only show what you give them, but given the power to edit both you and the other individuals, they can sure misrepresent. If you filmed me for three days and edited down into an hour or less, I might look like the world’s dullest middle aged woman ever met in a lower middle class but highly educated environment, or that same woman with the clear possibility of earning sainthood in the near future, or that same dull woman with a nasty, sarcastic and inappropriately sexual streak.

            • MilaXX

              I agree. Which is why Ken doesn’t scare me. None the less he has definitely had his moments to put it mildly.

        • Call me Bee

          Uh…wha?

        • MilaXX

          That sounds as batshitty as those crazies who were on Ramsey’s Kitchen Nightmares because of allegedly bad Yelp reviews.

    • Munchkn

      I’m going to watch Inside the Actor’s Studio before Project Runway airs ’cause Jake Gyllenhaal is on tonight. (Ooh, there’s a snapshot of little Maggie and Jake in the bathtub!) His mom is in the audience. Jake Gyllenhaal mmmmm. I’m also cooking some tortellini for supper after a fruitless trip to see the Harvest Moon. It’s too cloudy here.

      • 3boysful

        I’m sorry–the moon is quite orange-y and full. Very Halloween-y.

        • Munchkn

          Hopefully, it will be visible tomorrow evening. If not, there’s always the Hunter’s Moon in October and the full moon around the vernal equinox is pretty spectacular too.

      • Call me Bee

        I always thought the Harvest Moon was the first full moon after the Autumnal Equinox, but I just looked it up. It’s the full moon closest to the equinox. You learn something new every day….Of course, it’s raining like a sommabitch here right now with much lightning and thunder. The dogs are going apeshit… So no moon sighting tonight.

        • Munchkn

          I thought so too, but I checked the Almanac to make sure.

      • UsedtobeEP

        I didn’t know tonight was harvest moon night, until I thought I lost my BRAND NEW phone and had to go driving around in a dark playground looking for it. Phone was home all the time, but I got to see the moon by accident. I consider it a more than fair trade.

    • Poeta Paz

      What is up with Heidi’s clothes? Does that even match? No Nina tonight?

      • Jacquelyn

        I have no idea what Heidi is wearing or why she’s wearing it.

    • Call me Bee

      There is a HUGE storm headed our way right now–I hope the cable doesn’t go out….

    • batshitmomma

      Dear Sweet TLo, It’s been a really horrid week and I’m feeling thankful to make it to the lounge. So as one of your many hoards of BKs, I would just like to thank you for oh so many years of making the unbearable hilarious. If only I could take you two with me into my daily grind…
      (and since I didn’t comment on the “Southern” challenge and I’m from Charleston SC, all have have to say is bless your hearts!)
      Now on with the drinks!!

      • SRQkitten

        Oh bsmama, you called it so right about this week, total + complete twenty shades of non-fun wacko. Today is my Friday and I’m two steps away from forgetting about the glass and just drinking straight from the wine bottle.

        Honestly, don’t think I would continue with PR if it were not for our wonderful TLo and the fabulous BKs who make me laugh, snort and chortle.

        Bless y’all and let’s see how this group manages to screw up the challenge they had to know was coming.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I am not ashamed to say that the TLo Lounge and the Bitter Kittens are the highlight of my week.

        Imagine the joy in the land if we could all have pocket-sized TLos to take with us everywhere!

        • Courtney

          Indeed. I missed the episode because of Back to School Night, and I was sadder about missing the Lounge than I was about the episode itself.

          • AnneElliot

            OT but I love your avatar!!

            • Courtney

              Thanks! I seem to be pulling Hobbes fans out of the interweb wherever I go with him. :)

    • BrooklynBomber

      OH, this is HILARIOUS. I almost want to see it.

    • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

      Ther are always tears for the real woman challenge, or so it seems. Getting the white wine ready tonight. Though the lounge seems to call for a single malt.

    • Jacquelyn

      Oh no. Every year I become enraged at the real woman challenge. Some little diva is going to make a remark about how clothes are meant for these types of bodies but try to say that it’s just not his style and I end up screaming. A lot. Loudly. and Often.

    • Kate4queen

      I’m all on my own in the house tonight apart from Jennifer the cat so I can watch in blessed peace 7678qadfsz this last piece Jennifer actually just wrote by jumping on my keyboard.

      • alula_auburn

        Jennifer’s comments are probably more sensible than most of what is about to be on our TV. .

        • Kate4queen

          TOTALLy-oh she loves putting my caps lock button on too-I mean Totally! :)

    • alyce1213

      Only women super fans?

    • alula_auburn

      Oh, Lord. I spent 4 hours at the doctor this morning to get a prescription refilled–a scrip I’ve gotten for almost ten years, and an appt where I don’t even see the doctor (but they do drug test me!) and now it’s the real women challenge? I haz a grouchy already.

    • M. H. Leader

      OOOHHH.. I’m on travel this week staying at a hotel for a week which is (a) incapable of having rooms a reasonable temperature–either too hot or too stuffy; (b) has the absolute WORST banquet catering, with food that is barely edible (the term rubber chicken was invented here, I believe) and completely incompetent service, and (c) rooms and public spaces that have absolutely NOPLACE suitable for using a computer–the tables are too high or too low or positioned oddly, or all of the above and the chairs are nowhere near as comfortable as they look.

      I’m in the mood to be a truly BK tonight. Expect explosions…

      • Call me Bee

        Oh my. I am so sorry.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        A writers conference in a hotel with no bar?

        Oh, my God. Who scheduled this? That’s just not right.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          ……..Satan?

          • AnneElliot

            I heard the Church Lady’s voice in my head as I read that. Hilarious!

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              I was typing it in that voice!

            • UsedtobeEP

              Is there a font for that?

            • AnneElliot

              I would so buy that font!!

        • SRQkitten

          That is just ….wrong.

          • M. H. Leader

            I’m totally with you! This just is not right.

        • M. H. Leader

          Yes. It’s just wrong on SO many levels.

      • Stubenville

        The tables and chairs are like that for a reason. =/

        • M. H. Leader

          Yes…determined to make it impossible to work. Computers are the tools of the devil…

      • formerlyAnon

        A conference hotel with no bar is an oxymoron. Sort of. If you stretch the definition of oxymoron. Or, actually, ignore the definition entirely and just sort of wave your hands around the meaning.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Oh, dear. I’ll double-up on the blood pressure meds. Or just make a big frozen grasshopper, one or the other.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Can someone explain to me how Joey Ramone (he’s a cat) can open the door on the TV stand and get in, but is unable to open it and get out?! Or is the actual intent to make me annoy me with the push the door open *thwack* push the door open *thwack*….?

      • alula_auburn

        It’s a cat thing. It’s always a cat thing.

      • Stubenville

        Kitty just wants to annoy you.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          And now he is sleeping on his back on the couch looking all cute and stuff.

          • Stubenville

            The innocent act is a scam. He’s plotting to kill you in your sleep.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              I have no doubt.

          • alula_auburn

            The cuter they are, the more they’re plotting.

          • Pril Wood

            That’s how they operate. Clever little shits.

      • MilaXX

        Joey thinks it’s a game. It’s like when babies keep dropping stuff on purpose so you can pick it up.

      • SouthernGirlRena

        I looked for my cat for hours one day and finally found her in the little cabinet over the fridge that I can’t reach unless I drag a chair over from the dinning room. She was perfectly content sleeping on top of my china plates.

      • Pril Wood

        right on that second part. Thwaking is what cats live for, mine likes to add yowling into the mix, at 4am.

    • Pennymac

      Well crap. It’s been a horrid day already, so why not? *clears throat in preparation to scream at the TV*

      • Stubenville

        No throwing hard objects at the TV!

    • Stubenville

      Oh to hell with the theme. I feel like a Cointreau in a snifter. Anyone care to join me?

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      Bitches, start your engines!

    • Fred Vaughn

      Ken meltdown in 3… 2…

    • AnneElliot

      It was my last day at my job before I’m officially promoted (which is wonderful), but I have to transfer to a new library branch, so I was sad all day. Therefore I am planning on finishing an entire bottle of French rose wine that was chilling in the refrigerator. I’m trying to decide which are the Season 10 drinking game keywords. In season 9 it was Patricia and her crazy eyes. I think this time it’ll be whenever Ken gets pissy. Should be drunk within 30 minutes.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        Cheers to your promotion!

        • AnneElliot

          Thanks! It’s taken me more than four years to finally get a librarian job, they’re really tough to get nowadays.

          • formerlyAnon

            True words. Congrats.

      • Cheryl

        Congrats on the promotion! Don’t be sad – this is life.

        • AnneElliot

          Thanks!! I’m thrilled to be promoted, I’ll just miss all my co-workers and patrons, they were wonderful. I coordinated two book groups and did teen programming and I’m going to miss all my regulars. Today I had to say goodbye to my co-workers AND my book group, and it was tough. But it’s all good.

      • SouthernGirlRena

        Congrats on the promotion!

        • AnneElliot

          Thanks! And my new boss is a PR fan too, so that’s fun. I loved my other branch but none of them watched Runway!

          • SouthernGirlRena

            Then your boss should be understanding when you need an extended break tomorrow to read TLo’s review :)

            • AnneElliot

              Luckily I’m off tomorrow, I don’t start until Saturday. :-)

      • BuffaloBarbara

        New branch can turn out fun. Enjoy it!

        • AnneElliot

          Oh, they’re great, I’ve worked with some of them before. I just really, loved, loved, loved, my branch and coworkers. I had an amazing boss, I’m going to really miss them all. I’m sure it’ll all work out though.

      • Munchkn

        Congrats on the promo! How fitting it is for a librarian to have a literary name. My daughter is the coordinator of teen services in her library. Need I tell you that she loves her job?

        • AnneElliot

          Thanks!! I’m glad you got my literary allusion. I was the teen liaison at my branch and I loved the teens. It’s a really fun job.

      • wontons

        Congratulations on the job! My niece is in this field; she’s brilliant and accomplished, but she can’t get hired. I dropped out 6 credits short of an MLS nearly 30 years ago. I sometimes wonder if I should have stuck it out.

        • AnneElliot

          The competition is horrible nowadays. I was four credits short and had to move 2008, just before the economy crashed. I finished my MLS just as the city began a two-year hiring freeze. I ended up volunteering for almost three years, and after multiple interviews, was only able to get hired as a part-time shelver. I was promoted to Library Assistant after a few months but it took two more years, three more applications, and two more interviews before I finally promoted to Librarian. If I hadn’t gotten it this time I was ready to give up and just accept that I would always be a Library Assistant.

          Has your niece tried volunteering? She may not necessarily get more experience but it’s a great way to get contacts. You don’t get paid but at least it’s a tiny little foot in the door.

          • demidaemon

            My brother and sister-in-law are both librarians, and this sounds quite similar to their experience. Congrats on the new gig!

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      These poor women. At least they got a trip to NYC out of it and got the chance to meet Tim Gunn

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I hope they get swag…

        • alula_auburn

          And maybe at least some nice hair styling.

        • MilaXX

          Makeup artist are notorious for giving out goodies.

    • MilaXX

      UGH@! They are squeeing like fan girls. I hate this ep already.

    • alyce1213

      Oh gahd, they’re busing them around Times Square, and they’ll think that’s what NYC is.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      Did Tim really just give them a “nothing tastes as good as being thin feels” kind of moment?

      • Cheryl

        Kind of passive-aggressive to set out unlimited candy bars. And then warn them not to touch.

      • Abigail

        It’s especially mean considering only the size 2’s have ANY chance of still feeling good about themselves after this

        • alula_auburn

          For real.

    • Stubenville

      Is Ken always annoyed?

      • Pennymac

        well, he’s always annoying….

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Yes.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      KEN groans. Of course.

    • Stubenville

      Super fans? I think not.

      • Pennymac

        My fondest hope is that if any of these “super-fans” are BK’s they aren’t on national TV wearing capri pants. Is that bitchy?

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        Let’s find out.. LADIES, are any of you who were THERE, here? NO? Then no.

        • kathy

          My friend Susi was one of the Super Fans. For the last four years she has co-hosted a group that does every Project Runway challenge on dolls. Thats pretty much a super fan. And yes, she reads TLO

          • wontons

            Those must have been her dolls in the video clip! That sounds like a fun idea.

            • kathy

              Yup, those were some of her dolls. We have a great time doing it.

    • Frank_821

      SUK!

    • ThaliaMenninger

      How could these women have seen even one episode and not know they are going to get SAVAGED by the “I only design for thin girls who are 6-feet tall” designers??? HOW???

      • Stubenville

        Hope springs eternal.

        • ThaliaMenninger

          Or maybe stupidity springs even more eternal.

          • Stubenville

            ^1,000.

    • alula_auburn

      Wow, that was an AMAZING amount of obnoxiousness-per-word-capita Ken just crammed in!

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Late arriving here – so wish one of the BK community were part of the “Superfan” contingent.

      Actually, shouldn’t one or both of T and Lo be one of those super fans? (and no, I haven’t read any of the comments already posted, so if someone else has said all this, well, great minds think alike!

      • MilaXX

        we know better

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Yes, Ken. All those models you’ve worked with are fake women.

    • alyce1213

      Poor Stephanie, who is not tall and model-like, got Alexandria.

    • In_Stitches

      two days. I’m feeling foolishly optimistic…

      • Pennymac

        Stop it. You’re gonna hurt yourself.

        • In_Stitches

          The white russian’s will numb that pain.

          • Pennymac

            Pass one over, will you?

    • MilaXX

      I may be premature, but calling this now. Helen wins this. Her model looks like the girl in the movies who is supposed to be ugly and then she takes her glasses off and gets her hair done & suddenly she’s hot.

      • Pennymac

        Jinx! You owe me a coke!

      • In_Stitches

        That or Bradon. His real woman looks like a model.

      • dharmabum8

        She’s All That: Project Runway

      • guest2visits

        Kinda feels that way….

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      At least they have 2 days. And remember, these SuperFans have not seen any of this season’s episodes so they don’t know the specific fuckery they’re walking into. Ignorance is bliss. I guess?

    • Eric Stott

      Superplaid

    • Eric Stott

      It’s also the Hair Challenge – what crackery will result from THIS?

      • NDC_IPCentral

        They don’t have Ted Whatsisname from “What Not To Wear” or Nick Whateverhisnamewas from earlier WNTW, so…. I’m not expecting a Stacey and Clinton transformation.

        • MilaXX

          Ted Gibson and Nick Arrojo

          • formerlyAnon

            During his tenure I always liked Nick Arrojo. I felt like he was the reward women got for the trauma of having their taste gently disparaged and their clothes wrested away from them. Always kind and upbeat and sort of soothing.

            • demidaemon

              I have a theory that something happened with Nick on the legal end, because, in the last season he was in, he had a few ladies who were pretty unhappy with their hair. I’m thinking some suits may have been filed, unfairly.

    • In_Stitches

      Gotta love how all the women said they were comfortable in their skin and just wanted to flaunt what they got.

    • Pennymac

      Oh, that frikkin teaser turns my stomach every time.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      Is he really throwing a hissy fit with a face full of Noxema?

      • Stubenville

        It’s not clown makeup? [innocent look]

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I almost said something very politically incorrect. I was able to stop because I am not (yet) that drunk.

          • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

            If you’re at my table, there is no need to sensor. I don’t believe in PC.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              I knew I liked you for a reason!

    • Cheryl

      Ahh…the feel-good episode.

    • Eric Stott

      Ken- remember: in many of these challenges the client loved the dress, but the judges didn’t. If you really don’t like the color maybe you should find something else.

      • Stubenville

        Ssssshhhh…..

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Stop trying to help him!

        • Eric Stott

          There’s no helping him – and it’s as if it’s fated to happen in EVERY Real Woman challenge. Even if the client adores the dress the judges will scream UNFLATTERING! NOT FASHION FORWARD! HIPPY DIPPY!

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            I don’t disagree. But stop trying to help him.

            • Eric Stott

              I’m just being clairoyant.

              Plaid.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              What is this “clairoyant” of which you speak? Bwahahahahahahahahaha.

              Superplaid.

            • Eric Stott

              Tart…an

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              NOOOOOOOO!

      • MilaXX

        I agree, but in this case, I will almost always side with the designer who wanted their client to feel good.

        • Eric Stott

          I agree – but it is horrible to see a client who loves the dress stand there while the judges rip it to shreds – it’s like the judges are saying “We know that YOU like it, but you know NOTHING about FASHION- Obviously…”

          • MilaXX

            True, but there’s always the chance that a client who loves their dress will sell it on the runway.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            I would have to restrain myself from telling them to fuck off, I’m the client.

            • Eric Stott

              Some of them have made arguments that the dress was exactly what they want – the judges usually use the “well, it isn’t Fashion Forward” argument.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              Would you stop being reasonable? It’s annoying!

    • Stubenville

      How damn many times are we going to see that clip of Angry Little Ken having a meltdown?

    • dharmabum8

      I love the woman who wants to look like she could cut a bitch.

      • Stubenville

        I immediately thought of Serial Mom.

        • dharmabum8

          No wonder Braden blew his budget on her. He feared for his life otherwise.

    • Scoobydrew

      I love Tim. I love Swatch. I love Heidi. But nothing could get me to go on the real woman challenge.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        I <3 your name.

        • Scoobydrew

          thank you thank you … I write mysteries, so I picked my two biggest influences, Scooby and Nancy. Obviously the mysteries are on the “light” side.

          • SouthernGirlRena

            I love mysteries, especially those on the light side. I’ll keep a look out for you at the library!

    • Call me Bee

      I gotta say, though–I could do this. I’m a pudgy middle-aged lady from fly-over country who/s never been to NYC. Of course–I’m much hipper than any of these chicks. (!) They shoulda picked me.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I pick you!

        • Call me Bee

          Thanks! Your next drink is on me!

      • carolclark12

        That makes two of us! Except planes don’t fly over me here in middle Georgia.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        but wait…makeover? does that mean they touch my hair? nonono……

    • MilaXX

      This may be Justin’s second auf’ing. Anytime he deviates from his safe design aesthetic, he goes wrong.

    • alula_auburn

      Whenever they run adds for Feria, it always sounds to me like the voiceover is saying “inferior.”

    • ChristinaRi

      I don’t want to hear one more word about that fabric, Ken.

      But I know I will.

      • alula_auburn

        Except. . .have I gone blind? Because I wouldn’t call that color LOUD, per se.

        • Stubenville

          Neon greige?

        • Call me Bee

          Yeah me neither. It’ll look good with her hair.

        • Frank_821

          no you’re not. it’s not too loud. I like that it has a bit grayer undertone. I think iyou could make a sophisticated outfit

        • ChristinaRi

          No — I wouldn’t either. More ugly than loud. Also a little sleazy looking.

          • Eric Stott

            I can see Ken switching off the nonexistent light

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        i love that green, but it looks like it’s shiny and maybe hard to work with. what was the name of that slippery slimy fabric from the sixties…QUIANA. that’s it. just try to sew on that crap.

        • wontons

          Yeah, Ken has some issues with textures (among other things). It looked almost like upholstery fabric to me! And then with the leather…he could be a fantastic sewer (which he isn’t), and the dress would still be prone to hanging on her body strangely.

          I actually rather liked the design on the tablet screen.

    • blondie65

      Go Justin…very sweet to his PR fan.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      Lumbering L’Oreal product promo…..

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        At least it’s somewhat relevant to the show. Still annoying, but not on the same level as frozen yogurt

        • Stubenville

          Please don’t give the producers any ideas.

    • Eric Stott

      productplacementcrap

    • MilaXX

      Love Johnny Lavoy, but I’d never get picked for this. Very few makeup artist want to tackle dreadlocs. unless it’s a natural hair show.

    • In_Stitches

      Do any of these hair styles sound good for these women?

    • Stubenville

      Okay, thanks for the L’Oreal infomercial… [yawn]

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      She’s All That is a ringer.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      He asked her if she cuts her own bangs like that’s a bad thing? Hmmmm…

      • Pennymac

        uh oh…

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I know, right?

    • ChristinaRi

      Oh dear. An extended L’Oreale commercial

    • Stubenville

      Okay ENOUGH of calling them superfans.

      • M. H. Leader

        Totally agree. Sort of like those “superbugs” that are resistant to all drugs…

        • Stubenville

          I now have “Superfly” earworm.

      • Cheryl

        Soccer Moms.

    • Eric Stott

      “That she could wear somewhere”…..don’t they take away the dresses and sell them?

      • Stubenville

        Maybe they’ll let ‘em keep them this time. But usually, yes.

        • Eric Stott

          and usually I suspect the dresses would fall apart if ther were really worn in public

      • kathy

        They were sent their dresses after the show, according to my friend Susi who was on the episode.

        • formerlyAnon

          Has she worn hers, do you know? (Or was she not supposed to till the episode aired?)

          • kathy

            I think she just got it yesterday. I have a feeling she won’t be wearing it, it was the loser after all.

    • dharmabum8

      Hair makeovers with box drugstore hair color. A dream come true. Hurray?!

      • Elizabetta1022

        I know. And it sounds like some of those dye jobs could go either way…

    • M. H. Leader

      Oh, Ken. STFU. Seriously. Keep your mouth SHUT.

      • Frank_821

        no shit

    • Eric Stott

      This is SO Girls Dormitory

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        More like “Bad Girls Club” dormitory

        • Eric Stott

          That would be better- I’d rather have some good dish than this bitching

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      What a little bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • M. H. Leader

      Oh, Ken you’er being that dick. Alexander isn’t much better.

      • MilaXX

        I think we have a checkmate of dickdom here. Alexander didn’t need to all that.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      He’s ironing jorts?

      • annaplurabelle

        So why was Ken ironing those cutoffs in the entry at 11 pm?

    • Courtney

      I am inclined to agree – Ken IS being a dick – but knocking over the iron was probably unnecessary. And also unsafe.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Ken’s overwhelming charm brings out the best in everyone.

        Though I tend to think that knocking over the iron was accidental.

        • Courtney

          Looked like a pretty clear swipe to me, but it could go either way with this crowd.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            Upon seeing the replay, you are both correct. However, I think the whole incident is entirely on Ken. Especially since the next day, Alexander was still upset by his behavior while Ken was “over it”

        • MilaXX

          No it wasn’t he shoved the ironing board. then swiped at the iron on purpose. I understand his being pissed, I can even give a pass to pushing the ironing board. I draw the line at tossing hot metal around.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        i think alex was within his rights to send a message that he is not intimidated by ken’s constant outbursts of rage. he tries to threaten violence without exactly saying that, and alex was just saying “i’m not afraid of your punk-assed bullshit”.

        • NYCGlamourpuss

          I kind of agree, and yeah, I know, I sound like I’m giving a pass to one of my favorite designers this season. It’s clear that Alexander did it on purpose, which is not cool – I’m not saying that. What I am saying is that this whole room full of designers have had to put up with Ken’s bullshit all season. He purposely ignored and blocked Alexander and Bradon from entering. How long he actually made them stand there, who knows? It may have even been longer than we saw. Ken could have moved the iron, stepped out of the way, let them pass through, and resume ironing. But he didn’t – he ignored them, and kept taking his time ironing his shorts, like they weren’t even there. And while I don’t agree with HOW Alexander sent him a message (I love Drag Brows, but that wasn’t cool), I do agree that a message needed to be sent that Ken’s bullshit wasn’t going to be tolerated.

          Look at all the times that Tim has now had to mediate peace-talks with because of this guy. He had altercations with Sandro (no big surprise there – “tomayto, tomahto”), Sue, Alexandria, Helen, and now Alexander, who has pretty much come across as one of the nicest guys there. Plus the fact that not only were Alexander and Bradon spared from having to live with Ken, they got custody of Justin too, who was already Ken’s existing roommate! What Alexander did wasn’t okay – no argument there. But given past history, plus his behavior last night, I’m having a harder time putting the onus on Alexander.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Barging in?! What the hell?!

    • alula_auburn

      oh, for the love of little baby duckies. . .

    • Scoobydrew

      …and Justin takes out his hearing aid … I hope

      • alula_auburn

        I was wondering if it was incredibly tacky to say that’s how Justin has managed to live with Ken so long. . .

        • Scoobydrew

          I don’t think so, because he said in one of his interviews that he did that in the workroom when the drama went to defcon 5…Living with Ken he has too, I can’t see surviving any other way. And I hope his new solo room is the cleaning supply closet.

          You know, what gets me is that he is from the south, and if there is one thing we are known for it’s our hospitality, shame Ken – you’re bringing us down!

        • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

          i think it speaks of justin’s maturity and sensitivity that he is one of the only designers who can relate to ken. he’s quite a guy.

      • Eric Stott

        Does his female interpreter room in the men’s dorm?

    • Stubenville

      Classy.

      /sarcasm

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      “You get Heidi and NIna up here right fucking now.”

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        and bring the full camera crew! and a makeup artist!

    • Courtney

      I don’t think even Tim Gunn could save that tantrum.

    • Cheryl

      It’s FASHION!

    • Frank_821

      OH SUK!!!!

    • alyce1213

      Does he think this is his apartment?

      • stayl

        Or his castle?

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        or his world?

    • M. H. Leader

      O.M.G. Ken is just a childish brat.
      So…is he bipolar? Seriously? Definitely a Jekyll-Hyde thing going on with him…

      • In_Stitches

        He strikes me as the type that’s always a boiling pot of rage. Sometimes, the top is on, but the rumbling is still happening.

      • Pennymac

        Armchair diagnosis from a psych major: Borderline personality disorder. If you’re buying his “multipoles” Bullshit from his facebook page, he’d be disassociative. But, most true DA’s don’t announce to the world about their alters.

        • conniemd

          I’d say that diagnosis is correct. They are always the loud attention seekers. Look at me, look at me.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        i’m going with psychopath. inability to empathize with others. unable to understand that other people exist.

    • Frank_821

      I’m sorry Alexnader didn’t need to do that, but it was clear Ken chose to behave like a brat-yet again

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Yes. Ironing in the hallway when he knew the others would be moving in…nothing passive-aggressive about that.

    • ChristinaRi

      Well, that was fun.

      I’m with Justin. I don’t want to get involved. Just leave the viewers out of this stuff please.

    • GTrain

      This is Ken’s doing. Don’t start none, won’t be none.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        word.

      • ChristinaRi

        Oh, he was definitely being territorial. Totally rude. But Alexander didn’t need to make a bad situation worse.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          That’s true, but he’s had to put up with Ken’s shit for days.

          • NYCGlamourpuss

            Exactly – I’m not exactly thrilled with Alexander’s behavior, but when you make one of the nicest guys in the bunch pop off like that, I can’t exactly blame Alexander too much.

          • demidaemon

            Weeks at this point. Weeks in a small, hot room all day with maybe 5 hour breaks of sleep in-between and in a high stress environment. I’m surprised more haven’t snapped and to a greater degree.

    • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

      Kev six scaring me.
      I would not want to be ‘talent coordinator’ for this show.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        seriously, i would have brought that up in the group therapy session. being in an enclosed space with sharp objects and a rage filled psych-something is frightening!

        • mike__tv

          lol psych-something

    • ChristinaRi

      Both were wrong. Didn’t our mothers teach us that two wrongs don’t make a right?

      • OrigamiRose

        But Homer Simpson said that two wrongs *do* make a right! :)

      • MilaXX

        and with a hot iron at that.

    • In_Stitches

      I’m fine with what dragbrows did. People who try and assert their dominance with anger, rage and shouting shouldn’t be tiptoed around. They don’t get to win by being dicks.

      • UsedtobeEP

        But he did win. The other three had to room together while he got his own room. That’s what bothers me. They basically rewarded his behavior, in the end.

        • NYCGlamourpuss

          But honestly, I don’t see the point of having to room with that psycho asshole just to prove a point. So he got his own room – GOOD!

    • martha

      When someone is standing in a doorway holding a heavy suitcase a decent person moves out of their way.

    • alula_auburn

      Man, what a tease.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      It was dickish to do the ironing thing. On the other hand, Alexander… first rule of the internet: DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.

    • Bexxx

      As Santino just said, “Fashion, fashion, lighten up, it’s just fashion.”

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        amen, father santino. and also with you.

    • Stubenville

      Oh don’t blame Alexander, Tim.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Oh no, another Tim Gunn Dr. Phil moment!

    • Courtney

      Oh, Tim. Ken is never going to move forward in an emotionally healthy manner.

      • Eric Stott

        he’s getting put in the corner…..and no more gossip and hair braiding

    • alula_auburn

      So Ken is getting rewarded for being an asshole. Awesome.

    • GTrain

      are they REWARDING him with his own room??

      • Eric Stott

        quarantine

      • Stubenville

        As soon as they move out the mops and brooms out of his new “room”.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        let’s hope they lock him in.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      SO HE GETS HIS OWN FUCKING ROOM?!?!?

      • wontons

        Spouse: “So he’ll be going home tonight, so they don’t have to pay for that extra room.”

    • guest2visits

      Ken is beyond help. So much piss and hate in one little pill.

    • BPlease

      Does Ken not literally understand that the room change was mandated, right then, by production? And how exhausted did that P.A. sound, saying, ‘Please, Ken, calm down’?

      I do not agree that Alexander’s behavior was ‘inexcusable’ per Tim. Ken’s behavior, on the other hand, was inexcusable. I don’t know how this can be put as ‘both were wrong.’ So Ken gets his own room from now on? Good GRIEF. Good. Fucking. GRIEF.

      • MilaXX

        Ken was a jerk, that is not new at this point. Alexander didn’t need to compound the issue by slinging a hot iron across the room.

        • BPlease

          That’s a fair point – but it was a flash, in that moment – I don’t know. It doesn’t strike me as equally wrong. (I’m probably wrong for writing that! I don’t know.)

          • MilaXX

            it does to me. I get shoving the ironing board. I don’t get then slinging a hot iron across the room.

          • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

            i’m with you. i think alex had to do something that showed ken he wasn’t taking his crap.

        • housefulofboys

          Ken’s behavior was deliberate, Alexander’s was reactive. Alexander shouldn’t have slung a hot iron around, but I can forgive that sudden kind of explosion more than Ken’s planned insult.

          • MilaXX

            No shoving the ironing board out of the way was reactive. To then sling a hot iron across a room was deliberate. Ken’s assery is not an excuse for Alexander to try and out do him in the jerk department.

          • NYCGlamourpuss

            What you said.

      • Victoria

        Seriously. I was willing to give ken the benefit of the doubt until he started yelling at the EP

      • alula_auburn

        Seriously. KEN started it by not having the common decency to let people with suitcases in their room after a full day of work. Knocking down the iron wasn’t a great move, but Ken was the one who provoked the situation by being an asshole about “his” room.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I’m sure you mean his “temporary home”, don’t you? As he kept insisting.

          • BPlease

            Right – he was in a FACE MASK ironing his JORTS, relaxing a bit after a day’s work — whereas Bradon and Alexander had to go after the same day’s work and pack all their stuff and move – and they were barred from entering their own new ‘temporary home’ by Ken. It’s all a bit surreal.

      • ChristinaRi

        My opinion is that both were wrong, but where Ken went off the rails was when he started yelling at production. It was a tantrum to get his needs (whatever they may be!) met.

        • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

          not to mention the camera time and to have the whole episode center around him, as usual.

      • demidaemon

        To be fair, I think Tim was trying to pacify someone who clearly has problems and prevent future outbursts.

    • Stubenville

      I hope Ken’s new room is in a different state…

      • GTrain

        or at least in the basement

      • alula_auburn

        Possibly with padded walls.

        • Pennymac

          Can I design him a brand new white blazer with special sleeves???

          • Stubenville

            Only if the sleeves tie securely in the back. =)

          • alula_auburn

            As long as you use the Hannibal Lecter accessory wall thoughtfully.

    • alula_auburn

      Why am I suddenly watching The Real World?

      • Call me Bee

        Ahahahahahaha….sigh. You are so right.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        or bad girls club.

    • ChristinaRi

      Helen, STFU. Don’t make a bad situation worse.

      • Courtney

        Eh, I’m not sure she doesn’t have a point. It’s not like he doesn’t blow up at the slightest provocation. Maybe it was poorly articulated, but I wouldn’t want to be around him even if I could take him in a fight.

        • MilaXX

          but she likes to shit stir.

          • Courtney

            Agreed. I’m just not sure she was in the wrong to point out that they have to work with Little Miss Hair Trigger, and she’d like to make sure that doesn’t happen in the workroom. As I said, I think she had the right idea, but said it ineffectively.

            • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

              it i was there, i would have jumped right in it with her. the guy is scary.

    • Call me Bee

      I don’t even care to watch this. I just want to see the creative process in the workroom.

      • Stubenville

        Exaaaaccctly.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

      • Cheryl

        Preschool. With toddlers.

      • blondie65

        With children who have never been introduced to the concept of LIMITS

        • Stubenville

          Or indoor voices.

    • Stubenville

      Have we ever seen a production assistant on screen before this season? Kittens?

      • Eric Stott

        I think you only see them in cases of emergency

      • ChristinaRi

        I was trying to think about that too.

      • marlie

        Nope, I’m pretty sure we haven’t.

      • Call me Bee

        I don’t ever remember seeing one on PR. Once–on Top Model. When one of the gals fainted dead away. I don’t think we saw one when what’s his name cracked his skull on the sidewalk, even.

      • RR May

        On the Lifetime website Kenny states that if he could not be a designer he would like to be a motivational speaker!!!

        t

        • Courtney

          Ken himself IS highly motivated. To be a jerk to get people to give him what he wants.

      • MilaXX

        When Sandro pulled one out to fix the steam iron.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      But Ken: YOU ARE A BULLY!

    • ChristinaRi

      Oh, Ken. Keep having outbursts like that and your destiny is not going to be so great.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        i vote him most likely to go to jail. he may run into sandro there, though.

    • Sonja Brisson

      Disaster in the making. I’m assuming there are no size zeros in that cohort. If there is, then it will be a feeding frenzy. I hear you about the Jameson, but I may make mine a martini.

    • oyeyemi808

      BITCH ASS PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE MOVE MISS KEN!

    • dharmabum8

      Does Ken have compromising photos of Tim Gunn in a safety deposit box somewhere?

    • Miss WKS

      “dark, Old World, and masculine”…..just how I like my mens….

    • blondie65

      and that is a real first for project runway….a designer with “anger management issues” gets his own room. I think that just sums it up.

    • Eric Stott

      Alexander- DON’T give her big hips!

      • MilaXX

        I like his design. If it fits right and Johnny gives her red hair, she could look great.

        • Eric Stott

          Or it could tip over into Dowdy Secretary

          • MilaXX

            I was talking about Ken’s. I’m not loving Alexanders.

    • Bexxx

      “Bradon, how does it feel to have the only SKINNY, PRETTY one???”

    • In_Stitches

      Dom’s fabric is flat out ugly. And she’s going to add flutter sleeves? I’m worried.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      We can take comfort in the fact that Jay McCarroll said in an interview that Ken’s behavior is going to make it very difficult for him to find anyone willing to work with him.

      • MilaXX

        I read that.

      • Pennymac

        Oh, sigh. Jay McCarrolls final collection………..

      • Stubenville

        I hadn’t heard that Jay quote, but it’s totally logical. Who is going to want to hire / invest in / work for someone who keeps throwing temper tantrums? And Ken’s not that talented.

    • ChristinaRi

      Some ugly fabric in that work room.

      • DeTrop

        You said it. It seems the designers, past and present, lose all semblance of taste when dealing with so-called real women.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          They’ve never worked with them before! They don’t know what real women want! Or like!

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Helen’s fan’s hair is hiddy.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        truth.

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        Yeah, I don’t think it’s very flattering. A long bob would have looked nicer.

        • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

          Though really, her bangs were terrible to begin with. It was a bowl-cut mullet.

          • Angela_the_Librarian

            Oh yeah, she definitely needed a new haircut. This one is just not as flattering as it could have been

            • http://gabyrippling.tumblr.com/ Gaby

              I would have gone for a short 1920s bob, personally.

      • alula_auburn

        It’s kind of wig-like.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Oh, thank heaven, I was afraid I was the only one who wasn’t impressed with the haircuts. (I seem to have, um, alternative taste when it comes to hair.)

      • housefulofboys

        Is she the one with the long hair and banks? If so, I totally agree, but with her bangs cut that far back on each side, I can see how that would limit the stylist’s options.

    • MilaXX

      UGH that hair cut looks like the one Sandra Bullock had on the mag cover earlier this week.

    • In_Stitches

      It’ll grow out soon ladies, don’t worry.

    • Wellworn

      Ken should pay for his hotel room. He had no right to be to territorial for a room that he didn’t pay for. The passive agressive way he blocked the door was bullshit. He wanted a fight and he got it. Alexander didn’t touch him or hurt him, and I don’t blame Alexander for being pissed and he didn’t hurt Ken in any way. The iron is probably from the hotel too. Sick of his constant outbursts, and he needs to go. To isolate him as a safety measure says it all. Lifetime, you want drama, but this isn’t the Jerry Springer Runway show.

      • ChristinaRi

        The problem isn’t just with Lifetime. I think of the road Bravo has taken since PR left with a zillion shows with semi scripted screaming and yelling.

        • Wellworn

          That’s why Tabatha is about all I watch on Bravo anymore.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            I love Tabatha. And Interior Therapy.

          • Call me Bee

            Oh yes Tabatha. And (I hate to admit….) Real Housewives of NY–the one where they all have jobs.

          • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

            top chef masters has been pretty fun. they act like professionals.

            • wontons

              YES. Real creativity, people having fun and being competitive…there’s human interest, but not what has come to be called “drama.” Would that PR could be that way.

            • Stubenville

              They were only the slightest bit bratty about catsup. But it was in good fun. =)

            • demidaemon

              Yeah, they have a lot of good-natured ribbing and gauntlet throwing, but nothing quite like what we see these days on PR. Or ANTM this season, which is to see who is going to break their contract by banging a fellow competitor.

      • nosniveling

        and he was ironing his cutoffs??!!

        • wontons

          As you do.

      • NYCGlamourpuss

        The one thing you said – “Ken wanted a fight and he got one” – YES! He’d really better watch it, because one of these days, he’s going to mouth off to someone a lot bigger than Alex, and they’re going to hand his ass to him.

    • MilaXX

      She got the judges down pat! Please let her win.

    • Eric Stott

      Ken is surprisingly good with his client

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        he is also shockingly aware of her feelings.

        • Eric Stott

          Still does look like ugly fabric, but maybe it will turn out well

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Of course, his dress is looking truly awful. So there’s that.

        • Eric Stott

          Lets hope he doesn’t blame the client’s choice of fabric in front of the client.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            We can hope that being on his best Tim Gunn behavior lasts that long.

          • Stubenville

            Do you really think he’d hesitate for a nanosecond before throwing his client under a bus?

            • Eric Stott

              Lets hope that he has enough sense to avoid that, for his client’s sake

            • Cheryl

              Yes, a double-decker sight-seeing bus.

            • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

              i wouldn’t be surprised if he actually did throw someone under a bus.

      • Wellworn

        Oh ya, he’s all calm and nice now that he blew his wad at the hotel. In a couple of days the anger will build up again, and then we’ll have another spectacle.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Why did they take Helen’s fan from hippie hair to Mom hair? (Which is a weird thing for me to say, since my mom still has hippie hair.) She had so much to work with, they could have gone for something really glam. Sigh.

      • martha

        I think her bangs were so thick they were limited in what they could do. that being said, it is pretty bad.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          Maybe they could have done some extensions where the hair was chopped too far.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        i was imagining some elaborate braiding, with the bangs tucked in. not old-fashioned, but the slightly disheveled new braiding.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      You know, Tim Gunn used to be a fashion arbiter and consultant, not a playground monitor. I wonder how often he contemplates the deal he made with the B-M devil to get him to where he is now……

      • blondie65

        I have to believe…he is still trying to help these ‘designers’. But yes, at the end of the day, does he look at the stars and wonder where he stopped and where the “show” took over?

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      i fucking love gina gershon.

      • BPlease

        That movie looks like a good time on the couch with a little wine, etc.

        • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

          absolutely

          • NYCGlamourpuss

            Oh no way am I missing THAT!

    • dharmabum8

      Annnnnd that box hair color looks pretty much the way I imagined. Ms. Cut A Bitch should start with the hair stylist. Wow. Just wow.

      • martha

        Poor ombre lady!

        • dharmabum8

          I know! It looks like they just dipped the ends in bleach. :-(

    • ChristinaRi

      Maybe they will Auf Ken because he is making them go over budget.

    • ChristinaRi

      More L’Oreal!!!! My fave part.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      And Ken continues to be classy “I hope Alexander doesn’t finish his!”

    • Stubenville

      Alexander is walking on eggshells. He may be auf.

    • jtc

      Oof. He said, “Let’s do a beautiful berry lip,” but I heard “beautiful HAIRY lip.”

    • Bexxx

      So what are y’all eating and drinking tonight? I’m having some yellow squash, spicy sausage, asparagus, and avocado over brown rice and quinoa, and drinking a Harpoon UFO. What a lovely dinner party this is.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        yum….on my way….

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I made pad thai, but yours sounds better.

        • Wellworn

          Pad Thai sounds fabulous! I had leftovers :(

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            I’m working on my “recipe”…baby steps.

      • ChristinaRi

        I had chips with hot queso and a beer with lime.

        • Bexxx

          that sounds like everything i love

      • Call me Bee

        I made excellent chix enchiladas for dinner, and I’m drinking virtual vodka (and actual beer…)

      • Stubenville

        Just leftover chicken and some salad. But a rustic berry tart after. Now a bit of Cointreau.

      • NDC_IPCentral

        I’m on my (yikes) third beer, since we at IP Central had a post-work drink and nibble gathering for a paralegal who’s off to a new job in The City. I am going to be so puffy tomorrow, but, O, do I love beer. Your dinner sounds deeelish and healthier than the fried calamari and nachos with spinach dip that we of the IP C crew were scarfing.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I love drink and nibble gatherings. :-) Alas, most of my friends are virtual.

          • NDC_IPCentral

            Well, here’s hoping that some of those virtual friends cross the divide and become real-time, flesh and blood (with all the attendant messiness and joy) friends. Indeed, it’s my wish that some of us BKs who are geographically proximate could figure out a way to have a gathering. Faces (and real names) to go with our TLo monikers. I think it would be as lively as the TLounge. More expensive, as the drinks wouldn’t be virtual, but a whale of a good time.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              That would be Big. Fun. And I suspect that such a gathering would result in being banned from several drinking establishments.

        • Call me Bee

          Mmmmm calamari…

          • NDC_IPCentral

            Bee, calamari is the “signature” appetizer for my firm. And every, every group meal we have fried calamari as one of the starters. And, I have to say, it’s always a pleaser and it gets demolished.

      • Courtney

        We had grilled jerk pork tenderloin, garlic flatbread, and tossed salad. I’m following it with some fudge stripe cookies.

      • SouthernGirlRena

        Grilled chicken on a salad, which sounds really boring but with fresh from the farmers market veggies, it was delish, two Pepperidge Farm Maui cookies,and a glass of cabernet sauvignon.

      • MilaXX

        junk food. veg stromboli and ice tea

    • DeTrop

      I hope Alexander isn’t getting the auf confessional. He really looks to be in trouble. Can’t say I like anyone’s design so far with the exception of Helen.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        And she may have been undercut by the hairstylists.

    • housefulofboys

      I’m comforting myself while watching this show with my screen split between PR and the shiba inu puppy webcam. When Ken gets too obnoxious, I just look at fuzzy puppies rolling around the room. Most satisfactory!

      • Munchkn

        Oooh, that webcam sounds just full of squee!

        • housefulofboys

          Almost unbearably cute and fluffy!

    • MilaXX

      Even those who hate watch?

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      “I want vodka”. We may have a closet BK on the show, after all!

      • BrooklynBomber

        My thought exactly.

      • kathy

        Oh, Miss Susi is a BK!

    • Girl_With_a_Pearl

      Stop trying to make superfans happen.

    • In_Stitches

      Two solid looks so far…

    • ChristinaRi

      Bless me. Heidi’s outfit! Is this ok? Floral print with stripes. And the colors! Also please don’t subtitle Justin. He’s perfectly comprehensible.

      • http://surelysonsy.blogspot.com/ Jessica | Surely Sonsy

        floral and stripes are a fantastic way to pattern mix!

    • Fordzo

      Is everyone associated with L’Oreal pretty? I have such a shameless crush on Scott Patric.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Oh, Alexander.

      • Courtney

        There is nothing about that dress that isn’t awful.

      • Cheryl

        All i can see are hips.

    • Eric Stott

      Even if he’d finished it, that would be hiddy

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        even a little color would have helped. that grey was just nauseating.

    • Stubenville

      Alexander is going to get the Oompa Loompa comment…

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Ooh..Dom may be in trouble..

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      shit. i like kate’s.

      • blondie65

        me too. Which clearly means I need more wine.

    • Cheryl

      Maid Marian, is that you?

    • Courtney

      Kate’s is like a Peter Pan costume gone awry.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        JINX!

        • Courtney

          Great minds and all that. :)

    • Eric Stott

      Peter Pan Costume

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        DOUBLE JINX!

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Kate’s looks like Peter Pan.

      • Call me Bee

        The Hubs said, “Hey, it’s Jiminy Cricket!”

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          That works, too.

      • ChristinaRi

        YES!! Spot on! Now that you said it, I can’t think of anything else.

    • dharmabum8

      Those lace sleeves were a bad idea, Kate.

    • OhSayNow

      Kate’s lace makes her poor fan look like she has a skin disease.

    • Eric Stott

      Ken’s hugs all the wrong curves

      • In_Stitches

        The leather cut across the bust instead of curving under and around it.

        • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

          if he had made the panels go all the way around, it might have been more interesting. but still, it would have to fit.

      • ChristinaRi

        Plus the seams are puckered.

        • Eric Stott

          Too much contrast between the materials – one stretches, the other doesn’t, and you get puckering. The panels are interesting though- a failure but there’s an idea there.

          • Lea Setegn

            I saw that coming when he said he was going to use two fabrics. Unless those fabrics move in the same way, the outfit always fails.

            • Eric Stott

              Might have worked better if he applied the dark over the light, but he cut them together- which does take some skill.

    • Stubenville

      Yes Ken, you should be in the bottom.

      • Eric Stott

        The color AND the material are bad

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          ….I like the color…but I have a weird obsession with acid green.

          • Stubenville

            I like the color too. But I find it more a fresh leaf green.

          • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

            green is my color. you can tell from my avatar.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              I realized that I had a thing for green when a lovely Russian man I used to work with who had trouble with my name started calling me “Green Girl”. I wasn’t quite sure why until, after some reflection, it dawned on my that I wear some shade of green 3 days out of 5.

              I also gravitate to orange. I may have been a pumpkin in another life.

            • wontons

              My colors as well.

    • Stubenville

      Helen or Bradon FTW.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        i was hoping for justin. but i’m probably swayed by his charming personality.

    • MilaXX

      Justin – safe as usual
      Bradon – not loving the haircut – look is okay
      Alexander – dull. Needs accessorizing.
      Dom – Mom clothes – YUCH! dress better w/o jacket
      Kate – Hate to say it, but I like it.
      Ken – Not bad. Also needs accessorizing.
      Alexandria – snooze. Like the dress, not the jacket
      Helen – Wow! winner

      • annaplurabelle

        Bradon’s Superfan’s haircut is more Julie Andrews than Cut a Bitch.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      Relieved for Dom!

      • ChristinaRi

        Me too. I love her so much as a person that I’m too invested. Everything about her is adorable.

    • ChristinaRi

      Dom is LUCKY!! That was the worst thing she’s made.

    • Eric Stott

      Most of the looks are VERY safe

    • alula_auburn

      Oh, God, judging the real women challenge is always awful.

      Alyssa Milano? Really now. OK.

      • Cheryl

        October 24? Do we get a break or go straight through?

        • MilaXX

          I think it’s straight through

    • MilaXX

      Bravo show for not treating any of the clients badly. Either Ken or Alexander can go as far as I’m concerned.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        I admit, I was suitably impressed by the behavior toward the fans. I guess they decided that they got enough drama with their behavior toward each other.

        • Eric Stott

          and none of the outfits were really, really, horrible.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            My mother would call that “damning with faint praise”.

            • Eric Stott

              This was better than some of the previous Real Woman challenges where some garments were so bad that the client was driven to fury and/or tears. With the exception of Alexander’s everything was wearable and the designers worked well with the clients – but it helps that all the women went into this with a positive attitude.

      • marlie

        Seems like the fans got the worst treatment from Heidi, with the way she was cutting them off when they were talking about their outfits.

    • BPlease

      Really, Alyssa Milano and Project Runway All-Stars? Why not a model like Helena Christensen? She’s modeling for Not Your Daughter’s Jeans, and selling an undergarment line on Net-A-Porter.

      • In_Stitches

        She has a new show coming out on Lifetime, ergo the synergy.

      • Frank_821

        from what I understand Milano has her own fashion line

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I like Alyssa Milano. I thought her portrayal of Amy Fisher was the best.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Gotta go with the Peter Pan comments about Kate’s outfit.

      I liked Helen’s a lot. Afterschool Special is growing on me here. Still don’t like what they did to her model’s head, though. Oh, well. Hair grows.

      Alexander never should have tried a suit, and his fan shouldn’t have asked for one… she’s got to know how much time it takes!

    • BPlease

      Is Justin winning this one?

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        Helen’s is probably more chic, but Justin is my sentimental favorite.

      • dharmabum8

        He should win. The signature is a cool idea.

    • In_Stitches

      I think Alexander’s would have been fine without making the peplum in another (significantly darker) color. I mean, it has problems, but it probably wouldn’t have been aufable.

      • Lea Setegn

        But it’s puffy and adds bulk instead of accenting her shape. Not a good look.

    • Girl_With_a_Pearl

      Surprise! The girl with the glasses has turned out to be pretty. Just once I’d like to see someone keep their glasses after a makeover.

      • Munchkn

        As someone who’d worn glasses since she was eight, I gotta agree.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        chic new frames would have been awesome. my new purple titanium frames gave me a real boost.

    • ChristinaRi

      Justin — Don’t tell us about the undergarment!

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I don’t know – he made it and it was very specific to her and her Mormanism.

        • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

          made sense to me

        • Angela_the_Librarian

          But the under garment didn’t have anything to do with her Mormonism, but the access skin remaining from her weight loss. It’s great that he made it, but I don’t think we all had to hear about her skin issue (seemed a bit TMI)

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            I thought it related, in part, to specific underwear that Mormans wear, but I could have misheard.

            • Angela_the_Librarian

              I know that Mormons have sacred undergarments, but other than that I don’t know if they wear anything else different (I’m not Mormon, but I’ve read a few memoirs, etc.) It’s quite possible that I heard wrong, but I just remember having an “ick” moment when Justin talked about extra skin

            • TheAutisticStepmom

              My husband wears the Mormon garments. They are really just a white t-shirt and what, basically, amounts to boxer briefs. They don’t need anything special to be made to accommodate them, other than modest clothing. Justin really was talking about smoothing out her extra skin from such a drastic weight loss.

            • formerlyAnon

              Hi TAS! I remember your on-point comments from a while back. Nice to see you still are following along. If my memory is correct – it makes you’ve been busy elsewhere, I seem to recall you had a baby, (a while ago, so belated congratulations).

            • TheAutisticStepmom

              Hi, there! I DID have a baby, a little over 11 months ago, so busy is an understatement haha. I definitely haven’t stopped reading (and watching), though. Hoping to become a more faithfully responsive BK as the Bot gets older and more independent. She’s certainly seeming to want nothing much to do with me now that she is mobile.

    • Eric Stott

      Justin- TOO MUCH INFORMATION!

    • guest2visits

      I thought Helen and Justin at the top, for fit and impact.

    • Bexxx

      Her body looks slammin in that dress.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      “super frumpy”

    • ChristinaRi

      Ah! She’s 20, but she looks 30 now.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        i thought that skirt was kind of young looking, though. maybe a little shorter would have been better. the closure on the jacket was awkward and unfinished looking. maybe some big cute buttons. alexandria’s not really into cute, though.

    • marlie

      Is it creative editing, or did Heidi actually cut Alexandria’s “superfan” off when she was talking about her outfit?

      • Eric Stott

        Cut. Her. Dead.

        • marlie

          OK, I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed it. RUDE!

      • alula_auburn

        She also just interrupted the woman who was saying she was soft-spoken, lol.

    • alula_auburn

      Ugh, Heidi, rude. It’s a bad enough position to put them in without interrupting them after two words.

    • Stubenville

      Hello judges, can we find another word to substitute for MODERN?

      • Munchkn

        I don’t know how it is in fashion, but with other types of design modern has a very specific meaning. Contemporary and modern are not the same thing.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      I like Alexandra’s model’s new hair. That’s the color I want.

      • In_Stitches

        One of my good friends has it. I think it’s called midnight cherry.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          Thanks!

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        yep. she definitely got the best hair makeover. that she’s a pretty girl helps, too.

    • Bexxx

      “maternity librarian.” he’s workin on those kors lines, isn’t he?

      • Stubenville

        Baby steps.

      • Courtney

        He doesn’t do it with the effortlessness that Kors did.

    • OhSayNow

      As a librarian, I hate how often ‘librarian’ is used as an insult.

      • Stubenville

        It’s a pretty stupid comment, isn’t it. No two librarians at my town library are alike.

        • Cheryl

          But does your town have a MATERNITY librarian?

          • Stubenville

            Not unless he’s the one with the long beard.

          • alyce1213

            Don’t you know, all librarians are spinsters?

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              Hey! I’m a spinster! And I’m not a librarian….or am I?

            • NDC_IPCentral

              I’m a spinster and proud of it. I thought about library science way back in the late years of undergraduate school, but I opted for law instead. No dis on library science though, and that profession has morphed into doggone cool information management and more.

              NO DISSING LIBRARIANS!

            • BuffaloBarbara

              When I was in library school, there were a lot of lawyers in class with me getting the MLS for law librarianship. The two seem to go together quite frequently.

            • NDC_IPCentral

              Law librarianship doesn’t offer the Big Bux, but then again, the legal profession’s in the doldrums now and Big Law’s not hiring the way it did in the palmy days of a decade or (many) more ago. I am sure that law librarians now have far different skills beyond making sure that the subscriptions to Am.Jur. and the Fed. Supp. are up to date!

            • BuffaloBarbara

              Yeah, they generally need to have the JD along with the MLS, so I assume they have to have a pretty solid understanding of the law to get the right documents and cases when needed.

              Most of the lawyers in my classes had been practicing and decided they didn’t want to do law anymore, and wanted a little less pressure as a trade for a little less money.

            • blondie65

              I struggled in college trying to figure out what to major in, so I took one of those personality/skill assessment tests and librarian came out as my #1 match. So, I got a job as an assistant in a library for the last year of my college to test the waters before going into debt for the MLS. Good decision b/c what I learned is that most librarians spend much more time fighting for funds/dealing with budget cuts, etc than actually digging into what is really cool about the job. So they totally have my admiration and I hate the cliches made about them with a passion!! The librarians I worked with were super cool, fun and wicked smart.

            • Munchkn

              Gotta tell that to my daughter. She’s a librarian with a husband and a daughter.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              She is obviously doing it wrong.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Agreed, as a fellow member of the tribe. (Worse, I’m a children’s librarian, which means I’m supposed to wear stupid costumes and talk like a six year old.)

        On the other hand, they don’t exactly pay us enough to wear high fashion, do they? ;p

        • NDC_IPCentral

          You mold minds and instill a love of literature. A LOT more important than some schmatta on your back.

        • Angela_the_Librarian

          Yeah, there is a whiff of elitism at taking cracks at librarians, teachers, basically anyone who can’t actually afford to be super fashionable. I think we do our best to fight the stereotypes, but alas they remain.

          • BuffaloBarbara

            Heh… just a whiff?

            I wonder if they have any idea how many of us watch the show. It’s a major topic of conversation.

          • Call me Bee

            Oh yeah. They have the same attitude about anyone who is not in publishing, fashion or some other “glamour” job, methinks. Or doesn’t live in NYC.

            • formerlyAnon

              Because, you know, the Fashion Industry doesn’t need off-the-rack mid-to-low-end retail to survive.

        • formerlyAnon

          Children’s librarians seem to have (or think that they have) the best jobs, though.

          After much observation (I have an MLIS and work in a library but am more a behind the scenes person) amongst my “real librarian” friends & colleagues, the Youth & Teen Services folk seem to love their jobs the most, out of a group that contains astonishingly few people who don’t like what they’re doing.

          • BuffaloBarbara

            Oh, we absolutely do. I can’t afford great clothes and am at the bottom of the power bracket, but I get to spend two hours a week goofing around with tambourines and telling stories. Then I get to have a Hunger Games fashion show with teens, and do invention club with grade schoolers. In terms of on-the-job amusement factors, we rock. :D

      • blondie65

        If I could like this X1000 I would.

      • MilaXX

        I agree. I have a friend who is a librarian and she’s a cool as they come. Also very intelligent.

      • VeryNot

        I’m just a lowly library assistant, but as far as our patrons know, I’m “the librarian with the glasses who works at that desk over there [circ].” Our library has some of the coolest, hippest people I’ve ever seen, from our cutie librarian who dresses with a rockabilly edge and wears the most fabulous shoes, to my fellow circ clerk with full sleeve tattoos (her day job is school librarian at a middle school, and all her kids are in awe of her). And then there’s our head librarian who likes to wear his Grateful Dead ties — not exactly hip or fashionable, but still doing his part to destroy stereotypes… There’s not a bun nor pencil skirt nor spinster among us! ;)

    • BPlease

      I don’t think Bradon’s dress flatters his superfan at all.

      • Eric Stott

        it’s really basic, the vest is clunky

    • Eric Stott

      Who predicted Oompa Loompa?

      • Stubenville

        [bows]

    • BPlease

      I don’t think that Alexander’s is that bad in theory – yes, it doesn’t look great, but I don’t think it’s even as unflattering as is the waist on Ken’s dress, or the hem length and closed jacket on Alexandra’s 20-year old superfan.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        but why did alexander choose that awful grey? did nothing for his client.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          Because when he heard “suit” that’s where his mind went.

    • alyce1213

      Zac don’t say the fan looks like an oompa loompa, choose a kinder word.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Still hating Helen’s fan’s hair. Other than that she looks great.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        It’s a Great Clip cut, not a NYC cut.

      • guest2visits

        It wasn’t at all what I thought she’d wind up with! Very chunky and a bit dated without the extra styling for the runway.

    • OhSayNow

      Helen’s girl is looking a bit like Kristen Stewart.

      • alula_auburn

        Although she’s smiling.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Don’t say like that! She smiled! And was animated when she talked!

      • annaplurabelle

        I was thinking Julia Ormond as Sabrina. Exactly the same before and after hair, too.

    • Bexxx

      Her glasses were fug, why couldn’t they just get her new, chic glasses instead of canning them entirely?

      • Lea Setegn

        Because it’s never a makeover if a woman is still wearing glasses at the end. *rolls eyes*

        Why yes, I have glasses. Why do you ask???

        • marlie

          Same here. And due to my body rebelling against me (used to wear contacts, and then I developed weird plastic allergies, so I can’t wear contact lens at all), I can no longer wear contacts any more, so I’m stuck with glasses, for just about every occasion.

          • chubby ballerina

            Hey, we’re the same! I was lucky to find a local optical shop that has cute frames that are buy one pair, get one free, so I have a few frames to choose from.

          • Lea Setegn

            I had contacts briefly as a teen and hated how they felt. Then I tried again in my 20s, but I had to have reading glasses as well as contacts – and as a newspaper editor, I read for a living, so why not just have glasses? Now I can’t stand how it feels to NOT wear glasses.

      • Stubenville

        No eyeglasses sponsor?

        • wontons

          They need an eyeglasses challenge. Hell, use the professional models and nonprescription glasses if need be. It’d be a damn sight (sorry) better than the Belk Fugcessory Wall.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      You know… I think I’m going to go with Justin on this one. His client had specific needs, and he met them, and he made a pretty dress with a neat little detail.

    • MilaXX

      Her hair looks great

    • DeTrop

      Really. Kate got by with that travesty? Some woodland fairy is looking for her ‘dress’ clothes. U.G.L.Y.
      Dom has got to step it up. That print and style was hiddy. The two of them must be PR favs.

      • AutumnInNY

        Truly. The judges let Kate slip by every challenge. That looked like a Peter Pan costume. Hideous. And Dom’s print was equally ugly, and not flattering to her client. Tim’s expression when he saw it on the dress form said it all.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      If Helen doesn’t get this, well…. it should be in the bag. Her Fan accomplished an astonishing makeover, and she sold her look and dress.

      As to everyone else, no one else comes close, to my way of thinking. Whoops, I neglected Justin. He is a good second place, but compared to Helen’s outfit and her fan’s transformation, I cannot believe that Justin would be the winner.

    • Stubenville

      Say it Heidi! TITSCREPANCY!

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Maybe if we all shout it at the screen!

      • ShaoLinKitten

        It’s what everyone watching was thinking

    • Eric Stott

      Ken’s concept – from some angles the pattern does flatter her, from others not so good.

      • Cheryl

        She actually needs new undergarments. And better posture. The dress wouldn’t look that bad if it were fitted better.

        • Eric Stott

          Sometimes it would be best if women still wore corsets – dresses could be fitted perfectly over them & the waist stayed smooth.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            It’s called shapewear now. :-) And, like all women’s undergarments, stupid-expensive.

            • marlie

              Macy’s is having a sale on said undergarments right now. I may or may not have broken the bank when I “popped in” on my way home from work today.

            • Call me Bee

              Oh but you can often find it at TJ Maxx and/or Marshall’s. I never pay full retail for my Spanx….

            • Eric Stott

              I mean Corsets – with Lacing and Bones. No one wears them except historic recreators and fetishists.

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              The underwires in my bra are painful enough…

              (And I knew what you meant.)

            • formerlyAnon

              With an inverse relationship between comfort and actual ability to reshape natural contours.

    • alula_auburn

      What is even going on with Ken’s sleeves? Or is it just collateral damage from the titscrepancy?

    • MilaXX

      yeah, he’s gone. They are done with him. I can’t say I blame them but from a design perspective, I think Alexander’s is worse.

    • Angela_the_Librarian

      I think for the bottom looks they should take those ladies out to get a fabulous outfit (and not at Belk)

    • marlie

      Justin for the win, and Alexander for the auf (or maybe Ken, FINALLY).

      • alyce1213

        I’m thinking they REALLY liked Helen’s.

        • Courtney

          And it was a more dramatic makeover.

          • marlie

            Good point. I’m already changing my mind, based on the up-close judge critiques.

    • Stubenville

      Ha! Maybe Ken gets his own room by getting sent home.

      • TigerLaverada

        Gets my vote.

      • marlie

        He gets his own room back in his house in Louisiana.

    • Eric Stott

      Judges are pulling their punches in front of the clients

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Which is really kind of nice of them.

        • Eric Stott

          Maybe it’s because they’re so close the clients could hit them?

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            Excellent point!

    • BPlease

      My husband – who was watching and faking like he was reading something
      on his iPad – pointed out that of course Helen’s client would have the
      most dramatic makeover: darkening the hair of a pale person, chopping
      off well over a foot of hair, putting her in a dark evening dress, and
      removing her glasses. He said ‘it’s cliche. It’s someone whipping off her glasses and the dopey guy saying, ‘But…but…you’re beautiful!’ And then we both realized that Helen’s client looks like the beautiful Bailey Quarters of WKRP In Cincinnati.

      • Call me Bee

        Yes. Yes, she does.

      • MilaXX

        I swear I thought turkey’s could fly.

        • housefulofboys

          Red wigglers, the Cadillac of worms.

      • jillwrites

        I always thought Bailey was prettier than Jennifer.

        • catlover2x

          Well, she was!

      • chubby ballerina

        I love you so much for the WKRP mention.

    • In_Stitches

      “You’re a cool girl, you want something a little more…inspired” You don’t know her, Zanna. How do you know what she wants? That’s the crux of the problem with this challenge.

      • BPlease

        Zanna’s afraid of silence. She’s gotta fill the space with editrix words!

      • Victoria

        I don’t know. She’s a student in modern art and that outfit was boring and ugly. Nothing said ‘modern’

        • Lea Setegn

          I loved the fabric for the skirt, but it’s certainly not modern art inspired.

        • In_Stitches

          I guess what I was trying to hit at was, it doesn’t matter what the client wants-the job of the designer isn’t to make their client happy, it’s to make a dramatic, sexy look that the judges will eat up. That kind of sucks. Maybe they should send the ‘real women’ to a gala after the event, so that all of the designers are at least designing similar looks.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        I kind of agree with Zanna – that SuperFan did not look happy even as she was trying to be a good sport.

      • Stubenville

        What was needed for the edgy art student was a retro mod Mila color blocked dress.

    • BrooklynBomber

      Fuck you, Yoplait.

      • Jacquelyn

        But the cow! It made it! for YOU.

        • BrooklynBomber

          Moo.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          That poor cow is never going to live it down.

    • Stubenville

      “I want to EAT the cow that made this.” Medium rare, with a side of grilled asparagus.

      • ChristinaRi

        I always picture a dear sweet Holstein and think — ewwwww.

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        Hey, don’t blame the poor cow!

      • NDC_IPCentral

        SO my thoughts, Stubenville. I walk beside a cow pasture every Sunday on hikes with my walking g/fs. THEY are cows. And they’d give a big patty of HMMPH to the Yoplait heifer.

      • Munchkn

        You just made this vegetarian laugh.

    • SRQkitten

      How many times do we have to see the yoplait commercial? Have lost track.

    • OrigamiRose

      I hope next year we get a hybrid challenge where superfans get to go glamping with the designers in a brand new Lexus that must be used as inspiration for a yogurt-themed garment.

      • Stubenville

        I’ll buy into it if we can work in jumping through flaming hoops.

        • TonyGo

          On stilts.

          • Swiftlytiltingplanet

            I had mercifully forgotten about that stupid, stupid challenge. Curse you!

      • alula_auburn

        Superfans from the south, right?

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          Of course! Modern Southern SuperFans.

        • OrigamiRose

          Yes! And they all applied to be on the show using their HP tablets!

          • ShaoLinKitten

            Be sure you style their hair with dry oil (whatever the hell THAT oxymoronic substance is)

      • In_Stitches

        The fabrics will be sourced from strangers on the street, with help from heckling drag queens who are their assistants for the day.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I’d watch that!

          • Eric Stott

            Your accessories must be the tear-off foil lids from the containers

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      RINGER!!!!

    • ChristinaRi

      Quel Surprise!! Helen wins. Did. Not. See. That. Coming.

    • Jacquelyn

      Next year: Unconventional materials challenge = design a dress based on the Yoplait Cow who made THIS! Producers can’t go wrong!

    • Stubenville

      Yay!!!!!

    • Bexxx

      Thank the Lord.

    • Courtney

      What a surprise. Ken and Alexander are the ones left on the runway at the end.

      WTF! YAY!

      • ThaliaMenninger

        I thought the same thing. Like, oh, yeah, they maneuvered that one, didn’t they? Except honestly, they were two of the worst. I think Alexandria’s was even worse, personally, but… Hard to argue with either Ken or Drag Brows in the bottom with those garments.

        • Courtney

          No, it really could have been any combination of the three. I’m sure there was some producer relief when both guys made crappy outfits so they could milk that drama for all it was worth.

    • alyce1213

      Yay! Bye Ken.

    • Stubenville

      Ding dong the witch is dead!

    • ChristinaRi

      Budget concerns. Ken darling — Don’t put production over budget.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      buh bye little man

    • Frank_821

      Nothing like a mercy kill

    • Courtney

      Trust me Ken, they’re relieved, too. As is the entire viewing public.

    • Stubenville

      So he gets his own room.

      • OrigamiRose

        Let’s hope the walls are padded.

        • Stubenville

          Heaven help the maid if she forgets the mint on the pillow!

      • Wellworn

        Did he even get his room? Maybe that night. Producers wanted to save the room rate, the insurance liability, and the possible lawsuits. He wasn’t worth the trouble for his designs or drama factor. Whatever happened to fun drama, like Santino? I don’t want scary drama, PR.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          I miss Santino.

          • Qitkat

            He was fun to watch on that Austin and Santino show.

            • Eric Stott

              He’s skeevy on Ru Paul Drag Race

            • Qitkat

              Yes, that’s true, I forgot he has been involved with that show.

          • DeTrop

            But not his voice. Much, much too low. Had me running for ear plugs.

        • 3boysful

          I kinda figured he was out when they gave him the single–one less room, less production cost. “Have a single, crazy person. It’s only for one more night.”

        • formerlyAnon

          But aren’t they all still sequestered in the building after elimination until the filming is done? That’s what used to happen. Maybe I missed something, I don’t watch closely anymore.

          But I think he just gets turfed off to hang with everyone else who’s been eliminated. Who must be overwhelmed with joy at the news.

    • Eric Stott

      He does seem to be leaving graciously

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        which makes me wonder why he didn’t show a decoy collection. maybe he went straight to the looney bin after production was over. or to jail. maybe he was so busy having tantrums he forgot to make a collection.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          Nope. According to several reports, he threw a hissy backstage and refused to show.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      YOU’RE relieved, Ken? Think of us!

    • alula_auburn

      LOL, Tim was so done with him. Did he even get a hug?

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        not a chance.

      • wontons

        How I wish Tim had a VO like Dexter Morgan. “Bye, Ken! Don’t let the Parsons door hit you where the good lord split you! Make it work!”

    • carolclark12

      Notice how Ken says, “Project Roon-way”?

      • marlie

        I thought it was “Rinway.”

      • SinisterKid

        Don’t forget the fRabric he bought…dafuq

    • ChristinaRi

      Pushed him as far as he could be pushed. This is a sad little epitaph.

    • Bexxx

      “I love you too. Now get the fuck out of my face.”

    • marlie

      “go to the workroom to clean up your space, and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.”

    • dharmabum8

      She’s All That takes it, and exactly no one is surprised. Thank heavens Ken is gone though.

    • Eric Stott

      The “Pring an ugly design on cheap fabric” challenge

      • Eric Stott

        PRINT an ugly design

        • Stubenville

          Tomato, tomahto. =)

          • Eric Stott

            Who do you think will do the Personal Confession design?

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              Damn. That would have been perfect for Gay Daddy!

    • jtc

      “I have to send you to the workroom to clean up your space. RIGHT NOW.”

      • Jennifer Ford

        He did not approach Ken at all or say anything about how he’d be missed. Tim is classy but you always know when he’s glad someone’s going.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          That’s the tricky part of being classy. Tim does it very well.

          • marlie

            It’s so subtle, you don’t even know you’re being snubbed.

    • In_Stitches

      Ugh, outside Mondo and maybe the girl with the blunt bangs who quit who’s name I can’t remember, no one has ever made even a decent print in the damn HP challenge…

      • Eric Stott

        It’s hard to estimate the scale it will be printed at, and the material is always a stiff cotton that doesn’t drape well.

        • Michelle Wilson

          Yeah, there’s just not a lot you can do with what is basically quilting cotton unless you are designing pajamas.

          • Call me Bee

            Actually, quilting cotton is fairly high quality, has a soft hand and drapes well. And is getting teriffically expensive. (The cotton at local quilt shops, I mean. Not from Joann’s…)

            • Swiftlytiltingplanet

              And the best prints are on quilting cotton.

            • Qitkat

              I used to quilt many many years ago, and $4-$5 per yard bought the highest quality. I enjoyed my discount when I worked in a quilt shop. It’s hard for me to believe what the quality cotton costs now.

            • Michelle Wilson

              Designer quilting fabric has become such a huge industry. I can’t afford the stuff that I want very often and I use every last inch when I get it.

            • Michelle Wilson

              I’m not insulting quilting cotton, it just doesn’t have the same drape of fabrics that the designers are accustomed to using and instead of accommodating and designing for the fabric they are given, they try to force it to be what it’s not, hence the poor results.

          • In_Stitches

            I don’t think its the designers fault. I think the experiment has failed and it’s time to jettison the challenge. There’s got to be another way to integrate HP without wasting another PR episode on mediocrity.

        • Qitkat

          It would really make a difference if the fabric could even be a nice poly or rayon. I’m sure silk is out of the question.

      • Qitkat

        I’m still looking forward to what they create. Silly me.

        • UsedtobeEP

          Me too. I love DVF.

        • In_Stitches

          Your optimism made me go back and take a look. The Anya season actually had some pretty decent results that took into account the restrictions that exist in making a print made up of repeating blocks of the best ms paint has to offer.

    • Eric Stott

      good night all

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      oh, good times Kittens. sweetest of dreams.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      Create a print incorporating the Yoplait cow.

      • Stubenville

        I’m on board if it includes the actual cow, not an image!

    • Laura Davies

      I’m thinking Ken going home was more about the temper tantrum he threw than that baby poop green dress! (My nephew used to throw tantrums like that… but he was three!)

      • OrigamiRose

        Yes, I had the distinct feeling footage of Tim ratting out the behavior was left on the editing room floor.

        • Swiftlytiltingplanet

          They had to be having insurance/liability concerns.

          • OrigamiRose

            Definitely. This season really needs to be a wake-up call about how they vet designers going forward. Way too much potentially violent crazy was allowed to be cast.

            • Laura Davies

              I agree, though unicorn boy was funny in a painful kind of way. Too much cray-cray on this season. I do wonder if they’re going to have some cray-cray back from previous seasons with All Stars…

            • MilaXX

              Yep, because we didn’t need a season with unicorn boy, Sandro AND Ken. One moderately crazy person per season please.

        • Laura Davies

          Construction wise, the other guy’s looked worse, though the placement of his lines, the color, and the finishing didn’t do him any favors…

      • MilaXX

        YUP

    • OrigamiRose

      *laughs* On Twitter, TLO said of Ken’s auf, “Call security.”

    • http://viridianpostcard.blogspot.com/ viridian61

      Ken I am sorry to sy, glad you are out.
      Bless you’re heart.

    • Qitkat

      I have no problem with Ken leaving. It was his 4th time in the bottom I think, and no doubt the judges heard about the extreme drama. But Alexander’s outfit was unflattering, unfinished, and he is lucky to be safe.

      I didn’t want Helen to win again. While she did a great job, it was pretty standard red carpet. I liked the details on Bradon’s look better.

    • Eric Stott

      PLAID

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        You are an evil, bad man. I like that about you.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Random thoughts (other than the random ones I’ve been injecting all along):
      Superfans: Makes me think of the SNL sketch where the guys worship Ditka and da Bears.
      Ken’s dress: I didn’t mind it that much, but it was badly made and it was stretching across the back in an unflattering way, which gave them the excuse to flush the drama vortex.
      Alexander: Is really, really lucky that they decided to take said excuse.
      I would have given the win Justin. Yes, Helen’s was pretty neat, but her client pretty much gave her carte blanche. Justin worked beautifully within parameters, and made a dress that managed to be both sexy and modest (in the client’s definition of modest, not the NYC fashion world’s). It was a harder challenge, so I think that should be extra points. And could he make a whole line of fabulous modest wear? Because I’d be into that for work in a big way.

      • annaplurabelle

        Yes, I thought Justin deserved the win, too. He was robbed.

        Re: Ken’s dress: The green was actually a good color for his Superfan, but the fit and stripe placement ruined the look.

      • MilaXX

        If they had given Justin the win, I would ave had no problem with it in this instance.

      • Swiftlytiltingplanet

        Count me in as voting for Justin.

    • PittypatBR

      Can’t wait to see the recap tomorrow!!

    • Wellworn

      Buh bye Ken. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Or the iron. Or my remote.

    • SewingSiren

      What ? Helen’s dress won? It was so banal. Her model was cute as hell but the dress was awful and it didn’t really suit her client at all.
      Alexander dodged a bullet and he knows it.

      • AnneElliot

        I wonder if it was because of the transformation. The superfan/model looked so different than from the beginning — though I attribute a lot of that to hair and makeup.

        • SewingSiren

          Just like an After School Special, remove the glasses and cut the hair and ta da a raving beauty.

      • MilaXX

        The most model-y client always wins.

        • Qitkat

          Xactly what I told mr.qitkat.

        • BrooklynBomber

          Yup. Though she did have a big transformation, if in a very obvious way. She almost looked like she was deliberately de-glammed at the start so that they could have the big transformation.

          But I don’t know who should have won, if not Helen. I didn’t think Bradon’s was that flattering to his client. Justin’s was unique but … I dunno. Nobody wowed me.

          • MilaXX

            no wow looks. I wish the judging was somehow different for this challenge. Client satisfaction & challenges like religious restrictions should have counted. Half of Helen’s work was done for her. All she had to do was make a fairly standard gown.

            • BrooklynBomber

              You do not lie.

            • SewingSiren

              There almost never are wow looks in the “real” challenges. But the designers whose clients request evening or cocktail looks , such as Bradon and Helen’s, and the clients who are close to mannequin size (again Bradon and Helen) are always at an extreme advantage.
              Day looks and especially career wear are the kiss of death. (Alexander and Alexandrea). And all the designers who have clients who are not close to the mannequin size are at an extreme disadvantage because they are basically working without a dress form and have only one chance to fit the actual client. Dress forms do come in a vast size range from newborn to women’s size 42 , They really should a variety of standard size dress forms when these challenges are given.

      • formerlyAnon

        The closest to model size, then sorted by most conventionally attractive almost always win the “Real Women” challenge. It’s like these highly skilled judges can’t separate the impact of the wearer’s appearance from the evaluation of the garment.

    • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

      Heidi definitely saves her best clothes for the other show. Can anyone tell me how this striped top goes with her skirt, even for someone who likes combining prints?

      • 3boysful

        I don’t think even Mondo could tell you.

      • Coco Cornejo

        It’s her “everyday woman” look.

    • Michelle Wilson

      LOVED the Super Fans. Hated all the Ken/Alexander drama and feel that NONE of it should have made the show. Glad the designers and Producers didn’t feel the need to subject their super fan guests to all that bullshit and wish they hadn’t subjected us super fans at home to it either. Boooo Producers.

      Glad Ken is finally gone and I’m ok with Helen winning but would have chosen Bradon.

      • MilaXX

        AGREED!! It’s certainly not what I watch for. However, I would have chosen Justin. Helen had a fairly east task aided in large part by hair and makeup. Justin made a dress for a client with both religious and body issues and made a personalized dress and undergarment. It fit the the client and she looked great.

        • Michelle Wilson

          At the end of the day I just found the black very boring. She’s Mormon, not in mourning. A nice purple or a low contrast print would have been so much prettier with her coloring. Justin always defaults to black or white and I’m a little over it.

          • MilaXX

            I agree that black was a safe choice, but Helen’s navy wasn’t that ground breaking either. I just think in terms of effort Justin had a bigger task than Helen.

          • Trickytrisha

            Funny, but purple used to be a secondary mourning color for after the first year, I believe.

        • SewingSiren

          I wasn’t the least bit interested in the drama , and further it seemed as if the producers were deliberately causing it. When have the ever crammed 4 contestants into the same bedroom? The beds were so close together it looked like they would be sleeping in the same bed together.

    • guest2visits

      No surprise Helen’s beautiful gown swept into first place. It was very nice to see how pleased her model was, and actually how well the designers treated and considered each of their client’s requests and concerns. Except Alexandria. – And her model’s expression and outfit showed it. Alexandria seemed to feel her petite, abnormally-normal ‘real’ person was such a difficult concept to design for….are you kidding? An art student wanting a cool day look is a challenge for miss minimalist, severe and arty former model who says she knows what women really want to wear….and yet she is totes mind blocked by someone several inches beneath regulation model height, with no unusual demands…? I was almost as put off by Alexandria as Ken this episode.
      So the best Alexandria could imagine was a combo of mismatched items that simply looked frumpy and weird. She was on the bottom with Ken and Alexander, in my mind. I liked that Alexander tried for something chic and tailored for his client, and I really wish we could have seen the end result. I am probably one of few that liked the shape of his incomplete skirt and jacket.
      Because of that, I thought it was worth a bit more than Ken’s; who’s fabric I LOVED and thought the color and material was perfect for his model. Then he introduced the leather(?) and it got cheap and underwhelming very quickly. So a long overdue auf for Ken. No real thought went into his simple shift, but he was nice to his client – I held my breath.
      Kate and Dom both disappointed, although they were safe. I felt a bit like Tim about Dom’s print, it was slightly oldish, like Jeremy’s print last challenge; and I can’t recall her model’s age! I think the fit was ok. And although Kate whipped out a lot of design elements and elaborate construction – I don’t think it was a style that meshed well with her client, at all.
      Justin and Bradon were at the top with Helen. Loved how well Justin took care of his model; his custom fit made her look naturally stylish and pretty. Like he’s made clothes for ‘real’ people before! Bradon’s was also what his model asked for; with some ‘edgy’ details that suited her wants.

    • SnackBandit

      Aw man, missed out on tonight’s episode. Anyone know what time lifetime posts their full episodes?

      • YourBaloneyDontGotNoSecondName

        Probably it is up by noon the next day. I don’t get cable or TV, so I watch it online the next day usually. I am not sure the exact time they put it up, but I am about 99.9% sure it’s less than 24 hours — I’ve watched it early Friday afternoons when I get up and have b’fast.

        Most network and a lot of the cable shows do that, you can watch it for free at their site or on Hulu. Some wait 24 hours, Glee doesn’t post until a week and a day later. You do need to catch the shows within the week or two, as a lot of them get pulled after a couple weeks. I think South Park has every episode from every season on demand for free. On the other hand, if you don’t have pay cable, then you have to wait for the DVD to come out and rent it, which means you are one season behind.

        Now that I’m retired, I have no reason to not have cable and that really nice couch I’ve been coveting for a decade now. Maybe I’ll order it for my holiday present.

    • Swiftlytiltingplanet

      I am rewatching (for I am a masochist), and I just noticed that Ken has an effing bow tie tattooed on his chest. The hell?

      • Denise Plank

        At that spot, it is sort of a pussy bow.

    • crash1212

      I’m thinking there was no love lost between Tim Gunn and that awful Ken person. Staying classy to the end – Ken snubs Tim on the way out. What an asshat. Good riddance. Show will be better without his hair trigger anger. As for the “fashion” tonight – my eye liked Justin’s the best. Even though it was black, it had some seaming interest, fit her like a dream and I loved the silhouette – I’m a sucker for a flippy skirt! The fact that she was so happy in it was just a really nice bonus.

    • SewingSiren

      Anyhoo, I didn’t agree with the winner or the loser.
      This was a challenge were making wearable clothes really counts. Justin did the best job design and client wise.
      Bradon would be my next choice. His client obviously had modeling experience and requested the type garment that wows the judges so he was about 10 paces ahead of everyone else from the go get.
      I wouldn’t have but Helen in the top. The dress is a sad bore. Further it didn’t suit her client.
      Ken got skinned. His dress isn’t that bad.

      • Eric Stott

        His model was interviewed. He DID throw her under the bus- she says that HE CHOSE THE COLOR AND FABRIC – even though he blames HER.

    • mhleta

      The pretty blonde with Brandon went to nursing school with a friend of mine. I’ll see if I can coax her over.

    • guest2visits

      I love this week’s lounge. I want to pick out an outfit to wear there.

    • Eric Stott

      I just read an interview with Ken’s model – I take back ANY support I gave him. He’s scum and if anything the show’s editing was KIND to him.

    • ballerinawithagun

      I always thought Erin Featherston would be petite, but she is Heidi size.