Jake Robinson and AnnaSophia Robb on the Set of “The Carrie Diaries”

Posted on August 21, 2013

It’s time once again to check in on the CW’s hit show, “Everyone Dressed Like a Blind Clown in the ’80s!

 

Jake Robinson and AnnaSophia Robb film an episode of “The Carrie Diaries” in New York City.

Which, to be fair, is mostly true. People did kind of dress like blind clowns in the ’80s, except they didn’t dress like the blind clowns populating this show, who all seem to exist in an alternate version of the ’80s that didn’t have Flashdance.

Also: Ascots and paisleys and pink pants is just about THE LAMEST GODDAMN WAY TO DRESS A GAY MALE CHARACTER EVER. What is this, The Boys in the Band? Talk about unimaginative. And don’t tell us he’s being ironic. Irony wasn’t invented until the ’90s.

Her dress is almost appropriately hideous in an ’80s way, except sheers (especially sheer tops) were not the thing. Shoes are mostly all wrong.

 

 

[Photo Credit: JT/INFphoto.com, Alberto Reyes/INFphoto.com, ACE/INFphoto.com]

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  • Latin Buddy

    I’m a gay man in my late 20s. I don’t mean to sound obnoxious but genuinely want to know. How did gay men dress in the 80s? I’ve been told of the Castro Queen but curious to know.

    • Eric Stott

      We dressed FABULOUSLY!

      • Eric Stott

        Ok, I have to admit i wasn’t exactly a peacock, but the 80′s were fine for menswear – I still have some great Bill Blass and Alexander Julian neckties…and an Alexander Julian shirt in shades of green, teal & pink that was a knockout back then.

        • Monabel

          Alexander Julian! Best store-bought shirt my man ever had.

        • zenobar

          Deep in a closet there still lives an Alexander Julian Colours canvas knapsack, from my “Heathers” phase in the late 80s :)

    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      Dress pants were super fitted in the crotch and hip, but the legs were a bit more loose than these. The ascot is no way something that would have been worn, and the shirt would have been left open another button, or two. The operative word for men’s wear was “tight”.

      • filmcricket

        What happened when the super-loose Miami Vice look came in? Did gay men just escape that horror altogether? (Well done, if so.)

        • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

          Oh lots of guys I know ditched all their tight stuff and went for the baggy saggy “unstructured jacket thing. ( me included)

          • filmcricket

            Aha. So the beginning of the decade was Andy Travis and the end was Sonny Crockett?

            Good god, what a decade. Why do people want to revisit it again?

          • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

            Because God Forbid we should actually embrace something fully new. lol

        • StellaZafella

          We created it and then abandoned it (to sabotage Calvin Klein wearing straight hipsters)

      • zenobar

        Ahh yes…this is dredging up fond memories of the International Male catalog, which mysteriously started showing up at our apartment in the mid-80s – to a household containing only a thirtysomething woman and her two teenaged daughters. (Might have been because I got the Commander Salamander catalog and there was a list or something.)

        • Sarah

          International Male was highly entertaining. And I still use it as a descriptor, i.e. “I waited on this International Male today, and he grossed me out with his mesh crew-neck.”

      • JosephLamour

        Well that first aspect of the tight fitting pants in the crotch area seem to be *right on point* here. I could basically do an artist’s rendering of Mr. Robinson there.

        Related: Does anyone know if he’s single? LOL

        • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

          Oh if they were correctly tight, you’d be able to tell his religion, from across the street, on a foggy night.

          • JosephLamour

            Gotta love the ’80s.

          • StellaZafella

            ( pssst, Somebody knows their Mae West punchlines)….;>)

    • StellaZafella

      Depending on your crowd…just like today…there were certain styles in every neighborhood. All I can say is: Just like most any other era, some of us kept the pictures and show them proudly and others would rather see them burned. I, myself spent most of the 80′s in and out of drag and my thing was corsets and cha cha sleeves…the shoes (boys’ and girls) were fabulous and dangerous at the same time.

    • Shawn EH

      Used overcoats with brooches, white shirts buttoned to the neck, baggy cargo pants (which initially were made out of parachute material in the early 1980s), lots of black, big military boots. This is while girls were wearing acres of hair, grandma dresses, and also military combat boots.

      • SewingSiren

        Yes brooches many , many , brooches. Usually rhinestone .

        • Sarah

          If you were a girl, you did big permed hair, then put on an enormous silky polyester blouse (with shoulderpads) and put a brooch on it. Preferably one with dangly bits of chain or something. I remember this because Tina Yothers became a “cool girl” and was mean to Skippy in one episode of Family Ties, and the signifier of the change in her social status was said silky blouse, with godawful brooch.

          • Imasewsure

            I forgot about the huge poly blouses (but not the shoulder pads). I invariably wore mine belted with stretch pants and/or a micro-mini… yipes

          • Sarah

            Was your micro-mini a combination belt/tubetop/skirt??? Because, not that I did it, but I had friends who did. I think there was a store in the Mall that sold stuff like that – Multiples or something.

          • Imasewsure

            Actually my tube top days were earlier in the 70′s. The combo thing was brilliant though… Hurray for the 70′s mall “culture” .. how could I have made it through my teens and tweens and pre-tweens without you???

          • doodley

            Ours was called Units. I remember that store well.

          • Sarah

            Yes! UNITS! That was it! All jersey knit multi-purpose stuff. They should bring that back! I would wear it! (Not the tube top as a skirt, though. My grown-up thighs would not allow it.)

        • Shawn EH

          Oh yeah, vintage costume jewelry, all the way! Mounds of it like the Material Girl or a few really cool statement pieces.

        • Eric Stott

          and the women wore them too

    • boweryboy

      My teenaged gay self in the ’80s was living in San Fran studying fashion design, and my way of dress was either blazers or tuxedo jackets with Keith Haring buttons on the lapel over mock turtlenecks worn with black shorts and 14 eye black Doc Martens and a black beanie cap. Oh, and a wrist full of those tiny black rubber bracelets Madonna used to wear.

      Or a black long sleeved T-shirt over a short sleeve white T-shirt paired with pleated front pegged plaid pants (I made them myself and had a rainbow collection of colors) worn with black hightop Chucks and my beanie cap (which I also made myself).

      My style didn’t veer very much from this until the ’90s when I went through my 1950s retro phase. Most of the gay men I knew dressed similarly veering into Buffalo Guy/Boy George/Blitz Kids territory. I

      • StellaZafella

        I saw you…I know I saw you! Coming out of the Academy of Art College on Sutter Street. I was too old to dress like you “kids” then but I remember the drill…you were as cool as anybody I knew in the East Village!

        Thanks for the sense memory flash back! :>)

        • boweryboy

          Oh! That’s too funny.

          Actually, I went to FIDM on Stockton Street, but I had a lot of friends who went to the Academy of Arts College so you very well may have seen me walking out of there.

    • Louise Bryan

      There were Reagan gays; I would think they dressed pretty much suit and tie, at least during public appearances.

      • Eric Stott

        It was a good time to be a closeted gay man in a conservative family – subtle expression was possible in neckties, shirts, a bit of silk in the jacket pocket, but because even conservative styles in the 80′s were a bit dandified you could get away with it. Bucking the styles and dressing in the classic conservative mode was also a bit Gay.

  • Virginia McMurdo

    I don’t watch that show but I mean. Why even say it’s in the 80′s? So weird to me.

    • MilaXX

      Because she’s supposed to be young Carrie Bradshaw before the Sex and the City years.

      • Virginia McMurdo

        I am sorry, I know that. Just making a comment on how it doesn’t look like it is set in the 80s. I wish they would try a bit harder.

        • MilaXX

          I see what you’re saying. I don’t know why they can’t get it right. They need to either hire someone of age during that time or I dunno, look it up?

          • Virginia McMurdo

            Yea! I feel like I could make it more convincingly 80s with not a lot of effort!

          • NoveltyRocker

            I think it’s to do with being able to tie-in with today’s fashion so advertisers can pimp their wares during commercial break. Wedges and color-blocked sandals, little chain-strapped purses, 90′s throwback dresses, even the colored denim in a fitted cut pictured here—it can all be bought and worn today.

          • boweryboy

            Right? If Mad Men can do the ’60s spot-on then there’s no excuse why they can’t do the ’80s. Even with a limited budget they could pull it off. It’s like they’re not even trying.

    • ecallaw1977

      Has it already aired? I never hear anything about it except from TLo, and even they never comment on the content, only the clothes.

      • demidaemon

        Yes. These are scenes from the second season, which is currently being filmed, I believe.

  • MilaXX

    Everything she is wearing is something a (Real)Housewife would wear now.

    • Tom Shea

      And if Mondo had designed it we’d be clapping and spinning with glee.

  • kmk05

    WHY ISN’T EVERYONE SMOKING WHAT TRAVESTY IS THIS

    I am always irrationally angered by these posts. At least do your damn research, costume people! And makeup people!

    • AlisonS

      Carrie practically chain smoked in season 1-3/4. Seriously. She should constantly have a smoke in her hand.

      • kmk05

        She did, and it was totally glam, too. SJP really sold it.

    • barbarienne

      They might as well give them all iPhones. It wouldn’t be any less accurate.

      • Eric Stott

        I want to see her haul out what passed for a cordless phone in those days.

        • Qitkat

          HA! Those things were enormous. And clunky and ugly.

          • decormaven

            I always think of Michael Douglas on the beach in Wall Street, talking to Charlie Sheen on that huge damn cell phone.

        • StellaZafella

          There was a good reason we called them “car phones”: Because they were too big to keep anywhere but in the passenger seat of the Caddie.

    • Sobaika

      But then they’d be accused of glamorizing smoking to the CW crowd – I don’t get why they didn’t just do a reimagining of the show instead of a poorly-done flashback to the 80s.

      • Adriana_Paula

        Or they could have just done a new damn show with original characters.

        • Sobaika

          Unheard of!

      • RebeccaKW

        I was thinking the same thing. It’s already pretty clear that it’s not really an earlier version of the HBO series, with the differences in the sister and the dad, etc., it’s based more on the books, but they want the characters to look like the HBO series cast. I think it probably would have worked better if they just modernized the whole thing and set it in the now, especially if they want to ‘sell’ the fashion.

    • jen

      Ha, me too! The costuming is so wrong!

    • Nicole C

      Not to make everyone feel old, but I teach high school, and they had a 90′s mixer last year. Since the 90′s didn’t have a defined look, they dressed like blind people who tripped in their mother and grandmother’s closet and came out with whatever they fell into.

      YouTube exists people. Watch an Aaliyah, Nirvana, or Spice Girls video, or Clueless on Netflix! It’s not that hard.

  • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

    Those tragic pants are wrong in every respect. Not tight enough in the crotch, too narrow in the leg. And the shoes. Absolutely wrong. Her shoes are amusingly wrong. And that type of stretch sheer employed in the dress, didn’t even exist then.

    • StellaZafella

      If they were trying to be funny, they should have put him in saddle shoes…possibly with a 1″ platform and a 3″ heel. I never wore an ascot…but I wore those shoes.

      • Eric Stott

        I did the Preppy look…Florsheim Wingtips….and I’m still wearing them!

        • Rand Ortega

          Right? But where are the Lacoste sweaters w/ the alligator wrapped around the shoulders? Or the Sperry Topsiders? Or the Polo shirts in pastels?

          • StellaZafella

            Well, now we know what crowd you ran with. ;>)…I had a Macy’s card too, it was for cruising on a Sunday afternoon in Union Square.

          • Rand Ortega

            CAN’T. STOP. LAUGHING!

    • kimmeister

      Are his shoes wrong due to the pointiness?

      • StellaZafella

        Pointiness, yep…but mostly, they’re not speaking to the rest of the outfit as a parody or satire on the fashions of the time…in short, they’re an afterthought on an outfit that is supposed to be evocative of a period of extremes in styles. It’s like they dressed him as Fred in ScoobyDoo and forgot to give him feet.

    • leahpapa

      Also, is it me, or does he have a RAGING wedgie in the penultimate shot? I know nothing about menswear and even less about fashion history, but that looks seriously uncomfortable, in this or any other decade.

    • ryenerman

      And where on earth are the pleats? One could not find a pair of flat-front pants in the 80s.

      • Eric Stott

        You could…but not fashionable ones.

  • MartyBellerMask

    I always pictured Carrie as a thrift store fanatic, is it just me?

    And the shoes. Just… no.

    • filmcricket

      I feel like I say this on every one of these posts, so I apologize for my repetitiveness, but Carrie was one of those club kids whose look Madonna lifted. I’m not sure exactly what part of the decade this show is set in, so whether or not she’d have looked exactly like the lace-and-big-bows iteration of Madge I don’t know. But AS Robb up there is dressed like today’s club-goers, only in 80s colours.

      And I absolutely agree that Carrie would have haunted thrift and consignment stores like a fashion-forward ghost.

      • decormaven

        You are telling the truth. This show annoys because the stylists are getting it wrong. The producers are missing a pretty good-sized audience who would watch this dreck- just to see proper costuming. At least I would. I’ll save my TV eyes for Mad Men- Janie Bryant gets it right 99% of the time.

    • zenobar

      Exactly! I thought she’d have more of a “Desperately Seeking Susan”-era Madonna look.

    • SewingSiren

      DOMSEY’S!

      • julnyes

        OH MY GOD I LOVED DOMSEY’S!
        The bins of clothes by the pound downstairs and the wedding dresses and strange military wear upstairs.

        All of my outerwear in the late 80′s through early 90′s came from that warehouse.

  • kimmeister

    Her hair and bag are the only thing that even come close to our universe’s version of the 80′s, except the curls would have been from an obvious perm.

    • Shawn EH

      And much bigger. I guess she is looking a tiny bit Michelle Pfeiffer/Married to the Mob, though.

    • Sorena

      and been accompanied by an explosion of curly, hairsprayed bangs!! comon! :)

  • barbarienne

    I’m so glad I don’t watch this show. I think I would spend a lot of time shouting, “I didn’t do any drugs in high school! Why don’t I remember it looking like this?!?”

    Sheesh. Is the entire cast and crew younger than 40?

  • rkdgal

    My god, were is the clear plastic ANYTHING?! She could/should have a plastic purse or jelly shoes (which are being sold in stores today, for god’s sack), or at the very least, o-ring bracelets in multiple colors (interwoven, if she knew how to do it…) Is the costume designer a millennial?

    • Rand Ortega

      Jellies!

    • SylviaFowler

      Apparently today is the costume designer’s birthday and he turns 43. I would’ve guessed millennial too.

      On a similar note, how OLD is Baby Carrie supposed to be? Because it looks like they’re doing a (bad, inaccurate) take on 1987, perhaps? And while Carrie from SATC was born in 66, Baby Carrie here looks like she is 16-ish. None of it makes any sense.

  • Rand Ortega

    WHO’S ’80′s IS THIS?
    Where’s the Janet Jackson oversize jackets? The Madonna hoop skirts? The Bryan Ferry/Robert Palmer suits? The Simon LeBon hair? The Denise Huxtable anything?
    There’s nothing worse than a series that can’t set a proper tone to establish time & place, let alone a costumer who obviously has no sense of the period. Janie Bryant should bitch slap whoever should never be called costume supervisor on this show. Painful. Fail.

    • alyce1213

      Eric Daman is the costumer. He was the guest judge on PR (in the ugly camo jacket) who helped auf Kahindo in the diamond challenge. He really sucks all around.

      • Rand Ortega

        Amen, Sister! That gag inducing jacket should’ve been a clue.

      • Jeremiah Capacillo

        His work on Gossip Girl was actually good though.

  • Qitkat

    I guess I’m nuts, or contrary, or cranky, because I completely love what she is wearing. Somebody smack me.

    • barbarienne

      It’s not that anyone necessarily hates what she’s wearing, it’s that what she’s wearing (and what he’s wearing) isn’t even close to what teenagers were wearing in the 80s. All us 40-50 year olds remember being teenagers in the 80s. FFS, I was a teenager in the 80s in New York City where the show takes place. I won’t pretend I was a fashionista, but the costumes should at least make me say, “Huh, that looks kind of familiar.”

      • Qitkat

        Oh, I do get that. I agree. My sons were teenagers in the very late 80s, and I paid very little attention to fashion back then, for myself or teenage girls. Although I’m sure my boys wouldn’t have been caught dead in what the guy is wearing. I’m sad, sort of, haha, that the time has passed me by where I would have loved (could have worn) an outfit like this. Even for the 60s, while I wore mini-skirts as short as anyone’s, I never had any of the really wilder fashions.

  • Shawn EH

    You know they obsess over the shoes because she’s Carrie. Those look more 70s than 80s, like give them to Pam Grier.

    • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

      Could you even buy shoes with more than a 3″ heel in the 80s? I certainly never saw them.

      • MartyBellerMask

        Not even in Robert Palmer videos…

        • http://foodycat.blogspot.co.uk/ foodycatAlicia

          No – those were very sensible courts.

      • Imasewsure

        Fredericks of Hollywood had them I’m sure

  • duchessofjersey

    As if any high school girl in the ’80s would have been caught dead wearing platform T-strap heels!

    • duchessofjersey

      (said in Cher Horowitz voice)

  • Josefina Madariaga Suárez

    The point that AnnaSophia doesn’t look like Carrie at all has been made from before this thing aired, but my first reaction was “Those are so obviously not Carrie’s legs it’s not even funny”.

    • sekushinonyanko

      I feel like they didn’t even try. I mean the hair color, the round cuteness of the face…none of it looks like a young SJP. There had to be some girl with some angles to their face they could have found somewhere…

  • MoHub

    Her shoes are not only totally wrong, they’re about two sizes too big.

    And I wish I could be a podiatrist to the stars. I’d make a fortune!

  • purpleprose78

    This is giving all the CW kids a false sense of what the 80s were. Grumble….

  • MzzPants

    The costuming goal for this episode must’ve been ‘Show off our well-rounded asses’.

    • kimmeister

      Except his appears to be in the middle of a wedgie situation.

  • P B

    All these pictures in that dress and none of a discrete hem adjusting wiggle down. I’d imagine it must be a constant urge, like socks slipping down or a hangnail.

  • greenwich_matron

    I was going to chime in on the faux-80′s of the costume design, but then I remember my mother’s indignation on how tv’s version of the 50′s was completely inaccurate. The Carrie Diaries is this generations Happy Days!

  • Chickadeep

    Shoes are “mostly” all wrong? You’re being too generous. This does not look like the ’80s I remember. The only gay guys wearing ascots in those days were over 60. Nothing about this is period-appropriate…wait, no, Carrie’s earrings are accurate, that’s about it!

  • JanW

    Bare legs is a recent thing. Didn’t everyone wear panty hose back then? I know I did, never would’ve considered bare legs. Maybe just me….

    • greenwich_matron

      I remember a lot of colored hose and ribbed stockings.

      • MartyBellerMask

        Yes! And “suntan” L’Eggs.

    • doodley

      Bare legs were not unheard of. I was in high school in the 80s, and you’d see girls with bare legs, as well as girls wearing hose or tights.

  • SewingSiren

    I think Baby Carrie would be wearing DIY Bodymap and Jean Paul Gaultier. Does anybody else remember wearing extremely long, extremely narrow , rib knit dresses with flat pointed shoes and miles of long fake pearls necklaces? and gigantic rhinestone earrings? and leopard pill box hats? cat cut wigs?

    • greenwich_matron

      I loved the hats! The hair is wrong for her character, too. I know big hair is very 1980′s but it was more of a Texas and B&T thing.

      • Shawn EH

        And she would have avoided B&T like the plague!

    • VictoriaDiNardo

      I must have run up a million knit tube dresses and long tube skirts to wear with my Tous les Calecons knit jackets. I still have those long pearls – just in case I need to go to a costume party as Coco Chanel! And Peter Fox shoes – loved them! Mixed a lot of vintage with those stretchy clothes…and always black rubber bracelets. Of course the leopard hat was a given ( now it’s a leopard fedora! )

      • SewingSiren

        I also had (and still have) a zebra fez.

        • VictoriaDiNardo

          Ah – zebra! And the fez! I think I made them in every conceivable material – those little jaunty hats were so much fun.

          In a related nostalgia/yikes moment, we watched Altman’s “The Player” last night and whoa – I had forgotten just how BIG those 90′s styles were. The shoulders on the suit jackets looked like there was football padding in there.

  • Trisha26

    If I didn’t know better my guess would be she’s a working girl dressed by a gay best friend with no taste. I never watched Sex And The City (know all about the OTT fashion though) but this? I don’t understand…

  • Diego!

    This is disgusting! Both her and his outfits! He is screaming “Bitchy Gay” all over, and her dress is Donna Summer Disco Queen mixed with a market bag, and let’s not even mention her shoes… Oh God… how come nobody watches Madonna’s and Prince’s video from the ’80′s anymore?

  • Imasewsure

    Yes we definitely didn’t have workable platform heels like that in the 80′s… Fredericks of Hollywood might have had those heels but I kind of doubt it and they either would have been huge chunks (Sbiccas) or sleazy stiletos.

  • Aurumgirl

    Even looking at everyone else who’s standing around as extras–nobody wore leggings or ankle boots like the ones they’re showing here. It’s such a lazy show, it’s like they simply got an intern to do the costume design in much the same way publications now “hire” interns to edit all their copy before they publish.

  • lrhg

    I don’t remember the ’80s so I can’t comment on the authenticity of the clothing (though even I know she should have a big ol’ puff of bangs in front- pictures of the’ 80s exist people), but I will take her shoes in my closet, right now, thank you.

    • doodley

      The giant bangs weren’t as ubiquitous as people think. In the fairly close-to-the-city suburb in which I grew up, you didn’t see a lot of them, but further out in the suburbs (further from the city), they were huge (both in size and popularity).

      • lrhg

        Well that explains it- my mom grew up in a small town and all the photos are simply amazing.

  • Donna Tabor

    I had a top with sheer sleeves in the 80′s. Might not have been “the thing”, but they did exist then.

  • alyce1213

    The costume designer, Eric Daman, should be publicly horsewhipped for the shit he makes these people wear on this show.

  • alyce1213

    I hope they framed out the pokpokphatthai.com advertising board on the street. Then again, everything else is anachronistic, so why bother?

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Space_Kitty Space Kitty

    I gotta wonder exactly how awkward this is for SJP.

  • Susan Velazquez

    Still too goddamn modern looking. Okay, seriously the costume designer for this show NEEDS to be strapped down and have their eyelids forced open a la A Clockwork Orange and watch all the essential 80s movies and then there needs to be someone with them who points at the screen and yells, “THAT IS HOW PEOPLE IN THE 80S DRESSED!”

  • Tarquin

    VERY Peter Brant II

  • Cesar Negrete

    Boys, you have to go eat at Pok Pok. Delicious!

  • http://robot-heart.tumblr.com/ heartbot

    That dress is serving up early 90s, Lisa Turtle realness.

  • judybrowni

    Tried to watch this show, boring, at best.

    The fashion is lazy, but the filming worse.

  • demidaemon

    I am a bit distracted by his crotch area. In a good way. Also, doesn’t his outfit seem more reminiscent of the 70s rather than the 80s?

  • Monabel

    Did not know this, thanks so much!