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Posted on August 12, 2013
“Mad Men” star Christina Hendricks attends a party in Los Angeles.
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I don’t even know what to say. Except maybe “And I thought I was white!”
No ruffles, ruching, etc on the boobs when you’re carrying around baby heads. It just emphasizes them.
As a girl with a similar figure (almost exactly the same) I hate everything about this, color, shape. etc.
I like the color of the dress…
… and the fluttery sleeves. The most unflattering dress I’ve ever seen on her.
Umm yeah, I don’t watch Mad Men, so I only see her on this blog and the first thing I saw in the first picture was the baby heads and I was like Yowza. I’m guessing maybe she wanted to emphasize them? Problem is that she looks top heavy enough to topple over on account of them.
She’s never trying to emphasize them. They’re just naturally very prominent. It happens.
But . . . she seems to be completely unaware when something that she wears OVER-emphasizes her breasts in an unflattering way like these pleats and high waist. There are other options for her as a famous woman of means, she just doesn’t have a clue.
The reason those of us with baby heads end up in things like this is because it can be SO HARD to find something that fits the tits and the waist/hips that when ANYTHING fits, it’s sometimes better than nothing. And pleats give more room, thus it fits the boobs better…. yeah. I know, it still looks bad.
Having been a gal who toted around baby heads, I can say with some authority that there are days when you’re shopping or going through your closet that you just say to yourself, “You know what? They’re big. They’re not going to look small. There is nothing I can wear that will not make people think, ‘Wow, she’s got big knockers’. So I’m going to wear this thing that fits, and I don’t give a shit if my boobs look big in it. Because they always look big.”
That’s true. Especially with red carpet gowns where she’s always spilling out of those strapless bodices. Oh, Christina.
Hard for a straight guy to see what’s wrong with emphasizing those puppies.
Show that bag! Ha! Both from the front and behind…
Is she auditioning for a remake of Powder?
UGH… WHY?? The hair, the hose, the sleeves of that dress, the color of that dress. So many times she wears something that seems to scream – my boobs cannot be contained!! And, she does not HAVE to. She doesn’t always look like that. She can look very curvy and full figured and not like a “boob”. SMH….
How is she wearing anything remotely revealing about her boobs? Just because she HAS boobs doesn’t mean they are screaming out for notice. There’s little to no cleavage here. She has on a bra that’s got them secured in all the right places. The dress may not be the best dress in the world but it’s sure not revealing.
No, but it’s a terrible choice for a well-endowed woman…way too many fixy details up top. Horrible.
This assumes there are a lot of choices for a well endowed woman, which is not generally true. She goes against the standard advice, but she’s wearing an excellent bra, she’s got a nice defined waist and long legs, and her breasts are simply a part of the picture.
She isn’t wearing any hose.
I’ve had someone assume I was wearing white hose when I wasn’t. So pale. So so pale.
Christina isn’t wearing hose.
I never noticed how white she was.
To a party she’s going dressed like that? I don’t think so, Christina. Go back home and try again.
Hey, stop the remarks about skin color. She’s pale and lovely, get over it.
I would normally agree. And it makes sense that she stays out of the sun. But something about the light in these photos has made her look downright scary. From the neck up, she’s Michael Jackson in a red wig. It doesn’t help that she’s wearing a color of red that a true redhead just can’t wear well. Too much blue in it. Leave that red to people with more pigment and stick with ones that have more orange in them. Better yet, skip red entirely and wear a bright grass green or a summer teal. That makes everyone look healthy. Besides, the fit on this is horrible, the sleeves are atrocious, and her hair looks like she will be able to take it off and let the other party guests try it on for silly photos after everyone has had a few cocktails.
I’m not saying what she’s wearing is good, I just don’t like people making fun of someone for their natural skin color. Frankly, it’s racist.
I have an olive undertone to my skin, so I know to stay away from yellow and orange colored clothing, as they make me look positively gray. And if what I was wearing made Barbara Hershey (Beaches) say I looked like a corpse, I’d want someone to tell me. This outfit color, literally, makes her look like the undead.
I don’t really like that shade of red, and – as a redhead – would never wear it. However, she’s pretty much going to look at pale as that in bright sunlight in any colour, though.
I do see your point. Although I am pale and redheaded, so maybe I get a bit of a pass (like Oprah saying someone has “ashy knees”)? I will agree that it’s annoying that absolutely everyone feels free to comment about your skin when you’re fair, when they would never make comments about how dark an African American person is. And now that the term “ginger” (shudder) has crossed the pond, I’m constantly having people walk up to me and tell me they “love gingers,” which bugs the crap out of me. The fact that she has (obviously) avoided the sun like the plague is likely going to keep her skin looking young, and she won’t have to worry about skin cancer. This is more about the photos than her actual skin color, though. The photographer caught her at the precise moment when the sun was taking her to a place that looks unreal. She never looks this way on red carpets or on Mad Men. These photos are just odd all around, but then she didn’t ask to have her picture taken when she crossed the street. I promise, I’ll be quiet about it now.
People DO comment on how dark African Americans are….all the time, actually. But I agree, it’s uneccessary on all fronts.
Very true. As a pale redhead, and more importantly a human with skin, I wish people would refrain from criticizing others for daring to show the world their natural skin color. And for those calling her “undead,” she is in the glaring sun during these shots, which has that effect on pale skin. It’s not the dress.
People really think it’s ok to approach you and volunteer the fact that they “love gingers?” I’d start getting punchy. That’s annoying.
It’s not “racist” for the reasons LostInThrace outlines, but I do think the fixation on how “scary” and “deathly” she looks cross into body snark at times.
This is not racist. She isn’t in danger of being denied a home, a job or of being killed because of her skin color. She may be teased, but she has not and will never suffer anywhere near the innumerable slights that POC endure. In other, STFU.
As another pale redhead, I also support this point.
I agree. She will never have to have melanomas removed. Skin that has not been over-exposed to sunlight is healthy skin, no matter what the hue. When she is 60 years old, everyone is going to be saying, my God, her complexion is incredible.
Exactly. I had 2 skin cancers removed at age 19. I am pale and use sunscreen and people I don’t even know come up to me on the street and comment on it. I’m pretty sick of it and so I’ve learned that “well, this way I won’t die before the age of 30” will shut people up pretty fast.
I try that and even that doesn’t work! “Well, you gotta die of something!”
I recommend cultivating a perma-bitchface and a teacher voice. So useful in so many random interactions with rude people.
I’m going to need to borrow your comeback.
Luckily in Asia, pale skin is considered beautiful, so I actually get the opposite: “OMG, your skin is so beautifullllllll can i touch it??????”
Not to mention now! Pretty amazing skin, for people to be assuming she’s wearing pale stockings.
Agreed. People come in all colors, also there’s no such thing as a healthy tan anyway.
She is not a large woman! Why does she keep doing this to herself?
This dress should win the “Girl That Is NOT Your Dress” award for 2013. The most epic “That Is Not Your Dress” in the history of That Is Not Your Dresses…
Also.. that wig is terrible! I feel sad.
Oh, do you think it’s a wig? That didn’t occur to me — I was just going to post something about what a horrible blow-out the has. So I actually feel better, knowing that’s nothing permanent…
I also hope it’s a wig, though I don’t understand why would it be a wig.
Apparently she routinely wears hair pieces and wigs because her own hair is too thin and/or fine for the styles she sports.
Usually the deeper red colors are wigs.
She really needs a TLo intervention. This is just dreadful.
Why is she carrying her dry cleaning pick up ticket as she approaches someone’s garage door?
…that’s coincidentally (or not) blocking a button that seems to be bulging out because of the horribly fitted bust of that god-awful thing parading as a dress.
Oh honey, no.
Some unflattering looks can be partially excused if they are at least on trend. This is neither flattering nor fashionable. And yet she looks much more confident and comfortable than usual. I wince.
The alabaster skin, the gorgeous figure…I would love to see Deeta Von Teese and her get together for a styling party…
She really is pale. I just looked again, and man-oh-man. How much sunscreen do you need to achieve that shade?
Deeta’s is the same skin tone, with Black hair no less… But Deeta and her stylists understand how to dress a comely woman like this…and, importantly, how to edit a look…even day wear is crucial in the lime light. I’m an old Scot’s and would give anything for a complexion this flawless.
Deeta is one of the few celebs who doesn’t use a stylist and can still get it right.
Well, there you go then! It’s true, Deeta Von Teese is the bee’s knees!
I this Dita’s skin tone is a touch warmer (I’ve just been perusing her website, and I’m a little dizzy right now). Christina is bordering on “I’ve been taking pinches of arsenic” pale.
Don’t forget that it’s Dita’s job and source of income to look like she does 24/7. Christina Hendricks is in another line of work (acting). Obviously once you get famous enough you’re expected to glam up a little and she has made considerable effort over the years, but then everyone started to expect her to be this perfectly put-together clotheshorse/poster girl for hourglass figures the way she is on Mad Men, and it’s just not her.
Christina Hendricks and Dita Von Teese are both internationally famous people who are subjected to public scrutiny …it goes with the territory of fame in the internet age. While I hate the body snarking here and elsewhere, the very idea of this site is to opine on the success or failure of any celebrity’s fashion choices when they show up in the media. I think Ms. Hendricks DOES mean to look her best at all times and does not appear to take being an actor as an automatic pass.
Our suggestion in this thread that she and Dita should get together is based solely on the wish that one who rates consistently high on TLo could be a good influence on another who, fabulous as she is, might benefit from a friendly “you’re wearing that?” occasionally. Besides, I’d love to hear the two of them in conversation! :>)
Heh, I see! I just think Dita sets the bar higher, presentation-wise,
than most people including actresses can reach — in terms of commitment
to things like hair/makeup/shaping undergarments as well as having a
defined look. Dita is basically in costume as the Dita persona all the
time while someone like CH is still herself. Or maybe that’s just how I
read it because I find CH’s awkwardness sort of adorable sometimes.
Zero. The sunscreen is not the issue. I have skin like this (although I also freckle, curses!) When you have skin like this, you have two choices: this, or lobster. This is better.
I guess I shouldn’t have said “achieve that shade”, but “maintain that shade”.
Heh, yeah, in that case it’s just pretty normal sunscreen, reapplied often to avoid the dreaded “lobster”.
I wish I knew her secret to staying pale. If I walked out in the LA sun for the length of time she’s out, I’d have a really nice tan. Whatever sunscreen she’s using works!
OH! Deeta would sooooo know what to do with her. She could rock her world! Make it happen, Unvierse! Make it happen.
I would love to see it too, but I don’t think Christina wants any part of Deeta’s schtick. She must know by now how well the Mad Men silhouettes suit her, but I get the impression she doesn’t want to be pigeonholed there, and honestly I can’t blame her. The show’s ending, she needs people to see her as cast-able in contemporary projects. She doesn’t have the luxury of having a fixed persona like Miss Deeta. Maybe once she’s moved on from being “Joan” in people’s minds she’ll start dressing more like her?
I wanna know where she gets her bras, cause those girls are right where they’re supposed to be.
I’m guessing NASA – speaking purely from envy.
I need one of those!
Going against the grain and saying that I love it. As a person with larger breasts, I get really tired of people telling me I can’t wear something or it won’t look good on me because of biology I have no control over. I “can’t wear” or “look slutty” in things that girls with smaller boobs get praised for.
I realize that perhaps a fashion site is not the place for this, but I just want to say that the dress is cute and she looks comfortable and pretty. Not a huge fan of the sleeves but I LOVE the back of it and I like the pleats in the front to give it some shape.
Screw the haters, girl, you work that figure!
Um, no. That’s not hate for the figure. It is hate for her chronic and tragic inability to dress it by herself.
We’ll have to disagree (about this dress, not about her dress sense in general). I like this one. And I have a feeling that if this dress were on some skinny young thing, it would not be getting the hate that it is in this thread.
Well, the reason it doesn’t work on her is exactly because she is well-endowed. Speaking as someone with the same kind of body, you just cannot select the over-fiddly bodices. That’s not hate, that’s reality.
It is about dressing one’s body in a more flattering way. I wear clothes that are shaped like that dress because they make me look bustier, which is something I need and she doesn’t. No body snark involved.
I always like a shirtwaist and speaking frankly, if this dress were on a similarly built woman of color, no one would say a word about the fit over the boobs.
Why throw that in the mix? And if at all, that is only because Octavia Spencer gets it right most of the time.
because a. there have been comments about how white her skin is in today’s responses, and b. because of how we seem to judge body types differently. There is a marked difference in body consciousness in different ethnic groups.
a. was not part of your initial comment, but I totally agree on that.
I completely disagree. The fussy bodice just isn’t flattering, and it wouldn’t be flattering on any ladystar with the same body type, regardless of ethnicity.
I think that if the bodice didn’t have all that unnecessary gathering/pleating/whatever, it would actually look fabulous on her. It’s just that one feature of the dress that doesn’t seem to work for her figure.
I would still have an issue with the wrinkling. There’s a reason we have an entire category of Not Your Dress on this site. Sometimes a perfectly fine dress is simply on the wrong gal.
This is no one’s dress.
I’m a plus sized gal & for me it’s about looking your best at any size. Other than show off her waist this is simply not flattering. The top is too busy, the color is not flattering & the back is a wrinkled mess.
I agree. I have fairly large breasts as well, and although I’m a firm believer in wear what you want, sometimes, it’s not always the most flattering, and we’re just speaking to that here. I love CH. I want her to wear whatever she wants, but this just isn’t… helping her serve it up as awesome as we’ve all seen her in other dresses.
I really like this too. It might not be the most flattering thing for her proportions but it’s not terrible, either, and it’s feminine, classy, and cheerful, and a nice color.
I LOVE her figure, and she’s one of my favorite ladystars out there. What I don’t like is they way that she (or her stylist) don’t always put her in clothes that accentuate her figure in the most flattering way. It’s not her or her body – it’s the clothes. Thus, this is an example of “Girl, that’s not your dress.”
Yow! Just bad from head to toe.
As a full figured woman with ‘vast estates’, I am eternally glad not to merit anyone taking my picture when I go out.
But this is a totally gorgeous woman who cannot seem to find clothes to flatter her. I would love to see what Tadashi Shoji could do for her.
No honey. Color is pretty, pleats are baaaad. I’m also trying to figure out what kind of bra can hoist the girls so well, yet still allows that much nerpline.
“Nerp” is a colloquialism for nipple – the outline is noticeable under that dress, even with a bra.
This is NOT flattering up top, but the length is good on her and I like the shoes and bag. A miss, but not as wide of the mark as she’s been in the past.
I’m not a fan of the shoes matching the bag matching her hair.
But her figure is glorious (see my avatar) and her boobs are defying gravity. I’d like to meet her (bra) tailor.
Wow. Truly. Respectfully. But wow. That dress…is…..her….she’s got….they’re so…..yea, I’m back to wow.
*shrug* I guess I’m the lone dissenter, but I think she looks nice.
Yikes! I had that same mushroom haircut. When I was three. In 1984….
Her skin is amazing. The dress comes off as terminally rumply from the front and much better from the back. Acknowledging the “this is the reality” comments of the larger-chested, I still don’t like the stretched-out-pleats look across her breasts, not so much because it’s her chest but as someone whose weight has fluctuated, I associate it with clothing that doesn’t really fit properly anymore.
Okay, no, this is not awesome. It’s not even acceptable. BUT. Even on her very worst day, Christina Hendricks is still one of the most naturally gorgeous people on the planet. Hands DOWN.
If she is going to wear a clingy dress…girl needs to take a cue from the 60s and wear a slip to cover up those Spanx bands on her thighs.
Sigh. Grading on a curve for her, this isn’t THAT bad. But really, it’s still pretty bad.
The good: colour, general shape, the shades, the shoes. The bad: too many details, especially up top. The combo of that collar, placket, sleeves, and pleats is making me weep. Who designs a dress like that? Also, that is not one of her better wigs. Luckily, she’s still stunning.
Pretty sure your hair should not be the same shape as the sleeves on your dress and your handbag shouldn’t match your hair color. Also, button downs & boobs rarely work.
Dang, Christina is getting a lot of hate. I think she looks great, but I’m such a fan that I’ll probably defend her to the grave. I just hate to think that she’s very much limited in style choices because so many people will criticize her unless she wears a very specific kind of outfit. Girl can’t just wear an easy breezy dress? It just doesn’t seem fair.
We’re not “hating”, we’re criticizing a dress. That’s kind of what the site is for, n’est ce pas?
Sure, it’s also for voicing opinions of all kinds. Mine happens to be that she looks great.
She looks better in the walking away shot. The front of that dress is just too fussy.
Yes, imagine if the front had no buttons, and those ruches just went straight up the middle to a simple scoop neckline. It still wouldn’t be great, but it would be a vast improvement.
So I basically have this figure, only I am a foot shorter (4’11”, 32DDD). And I don’t think the issue with the pleating is necessarily the large chest. It is the large chest in combination with being shortwaisted. So the way the belt hits around her waist makes it look like she’s all chest. I think the pleating would be ok if you took away the belt and had a fit-and-flare thing going on with the rest of the dress.
I agree, I’m an hourglass too – but I’m 5’8” and with a longer torso. A long torso could get away with this – but it won’t be very flattering on a shortwaisted person. Like you say, it would work on her if the rest of the dress was more fitting and minus the belt.
Yeah, she is incredibly short-waisted, all her height is in her legs.
Everything is wonderful except the ruching on the dress. Very unflattering.
frankly, the dress looks like cheap double knit that my mom used to make me wear and the sleeves are straight out of the 70’s as well but that hideous color is the worst and looks especially unflattering on her!
I’m trying to like this but I just can’t. It looks cheap and it isn’t at all flattering.
Christina—Belts are not your friends. They make you look shortwaisted, as if you have no midsection between your girls and your hips. You need a bodice that skims you body to add length in the middle. And the flutter sleeves aren’t helping you either.
This is wrong on so many levels. Not her color. Bag is wrong. This is my mom’s dress, who did not have a rack like Christina’s. For going to Belks to go shopping.
But, hey, I kind of love her hair. Not forever, but for a change-up.
Ha I saw what you did there – Belks!
If this was in any color but red, I would love it. I think the silhouette looks good on her and she looks comfy
I like the dress alright. Except that it is a little too small, the top button is gapping. My other issue is the wig. It must be so uncomfortable to wear one all the time.
The heels are cute, but that top is way too fussy for huge boobs, and I say that as someone who has them. Instead of looking like a design element, it just looks sloppy.
I love her and she’s adorable. But that dress makes it look like she’s got a couple of watermelons in grocery bags. I think a bodice that fit perfectly without the ruching would be much more flattering.
The ruching, the weird placket, the funky little flappy sleeves…it’s a perfect storm of a dress. Color is good, and I do love CH.
Not my favorite look ever, but I’m surprised at how deeply reviled this is. Her boobs look fine to me and her figure is incredible.
I think there’s too much detailing but not enough structure in that dress, if that makes sense. On the other hand, she’s not got the easiest shape to dress, and maybe she just felt pretty in it?
I’m as pale as that, and just as startlingly white in bright sunlight. It used to bother me when I was in my teens, but now I feel it’s my natural colour and I like it. It can actually look great in summer time if you wear really deep hot pinks, and teals. Coral can work, too.
Being large busted myself (though not this large) I would definitely avoid such a bodice on a dress. It really is way to fussy for her size. Love the color, didn’t notice the shoes. Yes, I often cringe when she (or other large busted women) spill out of a garment but this really does appear to be a couple of melons slung over her shoulders in grocery bags.
Definitely getting the melon effect. Not good. Love the contrast with her white, white skin though. It’s a good color, though a little jarring with her hair color.
She’s going to a party and brought her own balloons.
Lexicon check: Breasts are not babyheads. Breasts are breasts, or boobs, or bachongas, or “a rack,” if you choose to use slang. Babyheads refers to the phenomenon that occurs when a woman hefts her breasts up and her dress down, revealing two creamy lumps of flesh that resemble…. all together now… two little baby heads packed into her top. This is not “babyheads.” It’s Christina Hendricks with no cleavage whatsoever in a dress we all agree is not working for her.
Thank you. I am sick of the knee-jerk comments made sometimes.
Maybe I need a break from this site.
Wow, that is one cheap looking polyester mess. Terrible fabric to wear on a hot day and the color and design is working against everything that is beautiful about her. This is upsetting. Let’s never speak of this again.
I’m not a fan of those shoes.
I’m a much less curvy, non-redhead version of her and there is nothing right with this dress. The drape of the fabric, the color, the sleeves, the detailing up top, the high waist are all bad.
It doesn’t have to be retro, but the fabric needs to be thicker and the clothes need structure.
The dress is a great color, but… uh, um… that’s all I got.
I think she looks fabulous. Love the red together with the brown of her shoes and bag.
Love her hair, the dress, not so much.
She looks very polished and pretty, but that red does her no favors in direct sunlight.
Boob pleats! Just no.
she has such a sexy body …in ANYTHING BUT this!
How does her skin stay so creamy? That fascinates me.
Dear god. Christina, I’m shaped very similarly to you, and we cannot wear floofy shit. TAILORED, honey.
Why does she always default to bordello lampshade effects? I can’t even with the red and brown.
Girl, no. Boob drapes.
EVERYTHING is wrong with that dress…Jersey is NOT her friend. And that color with her hair….A designer I worked with called that unfortunate shade of red-coral…”Lena Horne’s Gums”!
The dress looks so cheap, the pleating on the chest and below the waist is hurting my feelings,and the color is a poor choice. The shoes are okay, I guess, considering her history with shoes, and I like the handbag. Does anyone else remember that amazing dress she wore (discussed here on TLo) like a year ago? She should wear that dress everyday, in all the colors. All the colors I say! Except for this shade of red, of course.
I can’t with that hair.
And I don’t like the shoe/purse combo. On the one hand it’s too matchy but at the same time not matchy enough.
I think the shoe/purse combo could work in an outfit with separates but not when they’re the only counterpoints to a solid block of colour, as with this look.
Oh, dear. I actually don’t hate it from the back, but she can’t seriously think that adding pleats = bulk to her bosoms is a good idea? And nthing, yikes, cheap, yikes, hair, yikes bag + shoes.
This looks good on her, IMO. The color is great for pale redheads (of which I am one). And sure, the pleating emphasizes her breasts, but since when is that a bad thing? Rock what you got, CH.
Good heavens, I need her sunblock.
The dress looks beautiful on her shape, although the sleeves are a little frumpy for me. I love that alabaster skin – so jealous!
She’s possibly the fairest (in the sense of light-skinned, although I also think she’s beautiful) person I’ve ever seen.
Drat. I was all eager to hear TLo’s opinion (and snark) of this look. Anyhow, she’s glorious in spite of the pleated bazooms.
hideous dress. and her hair looks just like her boobs. red and round like basketballs.
I’m losing any hope for her. She seems to choose the precisely wrong things for her body — pleated bodice, high waist, poofy sleeves, lightweight jersey (we can see the SPANX bulge line!).
It makes me wonder how she sees herself.
I feel like she wants to wear pretty things, dammit! And her idea of pretty is “fussy”.
right? and that is not a dress that lends itself to lightweight jersey — look at all the details that are meant for a crisp, tailored shirtdress! Just. It would look so much better if it was a tailored shirtdress, maybe in silk-cotton or cotton sateen
I love her. But she has taste issues and needs a stylist pronto.
she needs to leave her husband and start sleeping with a tailor, stat! this has got to stop. her body’s amazing and there’s so much untapped potential for her to look great.
*sigh* Almost, Christina. The color is fine, and the general shape is fine, but the DETAILS. Gurl, no more pleats. That’s all I’m saying.
On Mad Men they want her clothes to be a little bit too tight because she plays somebody who is confident in her body but she’s not necessarily fashionable. IMO, her face and hair are so beautiful that I wish she’d play down her body, period.
I’m flashing way back to a supervisor I had when I worked for the phone company at age 18. She loved men, and she wore her clothes too tight. She was a sweet and loving person, but, man, was she flashy. One evening we were in the break room eating dinner, and she put some money into the jukebox and played a song that she played OFTEN, “Strangers in the Night.” One of the guys said, “That must have been some stranger,” and she said, “Which stranger? Which night?”
Christina as “Joan” reminded me of this coworker of many years ago, probably because this character is well-written My first job was in 1966, so the time is write as well.
Do redheads ever look good in red?
Yes! We just have to be picky about which shade. I’m ginger (although I’m also multiracial so my skin tone is totally different than Ms. Hendricks up there) and I wear red all the time and it always elicits comments like “…I didn’t know you could do that.”
What a horrible dress – truly awful fabric, and I’m sure it’s the harsh lighting but her hair, shoes, etc. looks garish too… but the dress is awful in any light.
Sorry, does anyone know if TLo comments on whiteboard entries eventually?
This dress is not doing her justice. Leave all the heavy bust gathering for the less endowed!
More is wrong about this than needs to be… I’ll leave it up to the rest of you to judge WHAT, exactly.