on Jul 1, 2013 in Whiteboard
Christian Dior Fall 2013 Couture Collection
[Photo Credit: IMAXtree]
You know, I get couture, as in, I think I understand it, what it is and how it works, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.
Row 5, first dress: That is some over the top pixelation they’ve got going on.
Some things look better than others. The clothes are well made, but some of the silhouettes look awkward to me
To quote Dorothy Parker, there is less than meets the eye.
So, this is Dior…
There are some GORGEOUS pieces, but also some WTF pieces. Hit & miss.
That first dress is breathtaking.
As for the rest of the collection, I feel like that’s a lot of tittie for Dior. Is it just me?
They’ll likely all be lined on the red carpet. I understand that they’re sheer to show off the fabric and/or the silhouette, but if a ladystar is actually going to be wearing a garment with a lining, I wish the red carpet version would be lined too, as it can change the look rather dramatically sometimes after it’s added; the designer’s “intent” with the runway version is sometimes lost once it hits the red carpet.
My thoughts exactly. We started out so well and then the train immediately derailed.
I have trouble getting past the model bitchface to even look at the garments. Except, of course, those with the boob exposure, which are hypnotic in a terrible way.
Glad I’m not the only one… it’s like bitchface… bitchface… nice dress… bitchface… TITS…
What happened to the old models, who could deliver bitchface with actual style, like Magdalena and Olga? I don’t believe I’ve seen them ever since Raf Simons stepped in. Instead, we have mostly obscure walking corpses here.
You read my mind.
Picturing Jennifer Lawrence in some of these and cringing.
Agree. She’s so NOT right for these looks. I can see Cate Blanchett, Nicole Kidman, Charlize Theron, or maybe even Kerry Washington in some of these, but Jennifer Lawrence is too “girl next door” for this. I don’t mean it as a slam; but these clothes need someone with Presence and Attitude.
I don’t think she lacks presence or attitude; it’s just that she’s a bit awkward and tomboyish, and anything beyond simple silhouettes is going to cause her to suffer.
Yes. I think you said it a little better than i did.
I completely disagree! I would love to see her rock that first green dress (she’s worn a similar silhouette previously) and both red dresses would look smashing on her.
I could see her in row 11, first picture, and the very last picture, because POCKETS.
Some interesting pieces, but at least half this collection if frankendresses that only the PhD level fashionistas can wear.
i agree. i liked maybe only 1/2?
Half the dresses? Or half of each dress? With this collection, either would work!
Love the marble dress in the 3rd to the bottom row.
This collection (mostly) successfully walks that line between high fashion and classically attractive clothing that women would like to wear. It mostly seems true to the Dior DNA
Really beautiful. Some really interesting pieces, construction and fabrics. Some WTFs, for sure, but overall, really lovely.
Why did they make a dress out of my grandmother’s afghan and who, exactly, is going to wear it in public?
Oh god, please no. She’s been more fashion-y and less stereotypical sad elementary school librarian recently so maybe she’ll skip it.
But this would be a perfect intersection of her style influences. Why would you deny her this!?
Seriously , new rule : NO MORE SHEER W/ GRANNY PANTIES, thank you…
How about “No more sheer with braless tits?”
If my tits stood at attention like that, I might consider it.
What strikes me most about this is that there is so much to see and it seems very complex. I would love to see these in person for a closer look at the fabric, construction, and detail.
There are some technically stunning pieces, some pieces that have interesting ideas in them, and some that should have been left on the drawing board. Not every experiment is a success. Only about 20 percent of this is a win for me. The vast majority goes into the Showmanship For Its Own Sake pile.
Half of this is in the classic lines of Dior…half should have been filed for future reference…like when the designer came down off his caffeine high.
I want to see Tilda in the 9th row and the beige swirl gown. Cate B. might have fun with the voluminous Coat Of Many Stripes. The green gown is classic and I can think of at least 4 women who should strongly consider it for the next season.
I love that beige swirl gown, but I think it’s going to be worn by someone (or several someones) who cannot really pull it off and make it look like an awkwardly fitted bridesmaid dress.
You’re right, someone far too rich, with far too little talent will have made her gays mad at her and they’ll say, “I’m done with this bitch, put her in the beige Dior and start typing your resume, gurl!”
Such a waste of a decent gown.
You SLAY me!
I too, saw a lot of reference to classic Dior. The asymmetrical use of contrast buttons is a technique from the Envol line. The spiral forms are all from another line, and the bodice that is a series of draped bands is also an old Dior notion, re-imagined.
Without question, the green gown, though by no means innovative, is the clear stand out.
I think its less caffeine and more crack, personally.
I want the green one for Uma Thurman.
I so appreciate your comments. You look at things from a much more expert & technical perspective than I can bring. (I know you probably don’t see why *this* particular comment inspires my comment since you’re stating an overall opinion and not talking technical details at all. But the difference in perspective shows & makes this all so much more interesting!)
I’m really very flattered. Thanks so much.
As for not talking technical details, I wanted to stay fairly to the point. There is quite a lot of note amongst the work no display, and I didn’t want to rattle on. I can really geek out on this stuff, given a platform. lol
Hell, I’d listen to the podcast.
I would too! (I am a sucker for sewing geek comments)
In general I like the collection, but some of these fabrics look like the tanned hides of fresh-killed muppets.
Some of the knits remind me of Missoni. And some of this collection is nowaynohow Dior. But what’s left is pretty spectacular.
I need some sheer long gloves. For summer soirees, natch.
With July 4th approaching, I think Little Edie would deem any of these an appropriate Revolutionary Costume.
A few of them look like she cobbled them together for Dior out of old sweaters she wrapped and tied.
Guh. So fugly.
No. Nope. No thank you.
RUB ALL THE THINGS!
Wow — surprisingly unappealing. I’m usually a Dior fan. Nothing here for my fantasy movie star wardrobe.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who has a fantasy movie star wardrobe. I’d take a couple of these pieces for mine, though.
getting better, but still low for Dior.
it reminds me a lot to marc jacobs and prada of recent years,
Some of these make me want to put my eyes out, but the graphic quality of others is gorgeous and unique. Row 5, middle and right, all of row 6, row 7 left, these are my favorites. I love the idea of the sheer overlay dress, if only it had a complete body suit, not that I feel prudish about it, but it is like putting granny panties on a barbie doll, and calling it done.
That’s how I played with my Barbies, because it was just to hard to pull anything else up their rubber legs and stiff arms. Frustrating. They all ran around in shorts and no tops.
I certainly hope i see women everywhere embracing the granny panty with a shoulder to floor shear cover exposing ones tits and of course wide belt. I just hope my tits don’t get caught in the belt
We are all about texture here, aren’t we? Oh, and breasts.
Oh green dress and off the shoulder blue one? Come live in my closet. I promise to love and treasure you.
I’m grateful that I will never have to wear any of the clothes pictured here. Also grateful that I don’t have to walk around in a transparent top with my naked boobs in the breeze.
For the life of me, I can’t find a through line here at all.
I was looking again, and hoping I had been wrong before. You are SOoooooooo right. Its all over the place.
3rd row from bottom, far left: Wingdings dress.
For the discerning lady who demands well-ventilated nipples.
There are a surprising number of nice dresses here, both very ordinary (for couture) and interestingly asymmetrical. There are also a lot of stuff that is way too unflattering for me to want it to ever filter down in a retail version. And lord, can we *please* be done with sheer? Just for a year. Or two.
I think many people equate couture with over-the-top when it’s really about the techniques and fabrics used to create the outfit. Not that I’m defending this collection, but that first dress is stunning and not overdesigned or design for design’s sake, unlike some of the rest, but it is still couture.
I like (like, mind, not love) the green dress and the blue off the shoulder and that’s it. This isn’t working for me at all and I usually really like Dior.
I for one am sitting quietly back, watching for comments from the BKs who truly know fashion. You know who you are. ; )
Dang, I can just hear them discussing the look they want for the runway models “Cherie, I must insist they all look like MALE SERIAL KILLERS. Then no one will notice what they are wearing!”
Being obsessed w/ Janelle Monae, in response to many of my fellow BK’s & PUF’s hoping she would change up her aesthetic while remaining true to it, I see her rocking look #19. It has more of a feminine vibe, yet stays true to her incredible “Sci Fi Soul” mystique.
Well, that first dress is certainly a tease.
I don’t get it. Did they just get a new designer days before the show? It looks like it was put together very hastily, with bits from other designers collections and scraps of other designers fabrics. Some don’t have buttons and it looks like they should. And kind of poorly fitted though out.
I’ve lost track of time and am too lazy to look it up. But Raf has only been with Dior for a year or so. Perhaps this is his first couture collection? I see his influence throughout, but the collection overall appears discombobulated.
First thought- I want Galliano back (yes I know he is crazy, racist, a druggy and Lord knows what else but his collections were gorgeous & entertaining).
Second thought – 99% FUG/Boring/Unflattering/SoNotCouture, 1% WANT (6th row, most right, just ship it over)
Wow. I really don’t like most of this. Feels too PR “avant garde challenge” to me.
The Blue, off-the-shoulder shirt dress in the 3rd row is stunning…without the gloves and softer styling it could really turn heads on a woman who’s not afraid of her curves.
That one (and the first one in green): definitely my favorites. When I saw the blue, my first thought was of HBC wearing it (though maybe with her hair combed). You’re right; it needs somebody who’s voluptuous and proud of it.
I love that dynamic winter white look (7th up from the bottom, left side). It resides next to my not-so-favorite “monsters are such interesting people” coat.
I only like about 10 of these pieces. The collection altogether just looks so haphazard. I don’t find the great majority of it to be of a great design intellect, but undoubtedly some trendy girls and women would look to Dior now, with this “young generation” Simons at the helm, as some bout of refreshing air, which I cannot understand. His portfolio for Dior has quickly become stale.
The green dress is nondescript, but I look forward to seeing a talented stylist and an insightful model pull off a major coup with this one. The three houndstooth suits (17, 18, 20) are not half bad; 20 in particular is very chic. Ming Xi’s gown in 23 and that in 40 are both gorgeous. Fei Fei’s gown in 51 has a great concept, and I’m sure it moves beautifully; I think it would look great with a small black belt. She should have walked with her hands on her hips, too.
I don’t believe it to be a particularly great or even coherent collection, and it was a major snoozefest of absurd and haphazard hallucinations with fleeting glimpses of promise.
“A major snoozefest of absurd and haphazard hallucinations with fleeting glimpses of promise.”
I love you.
I usually love Dior, and when I saw that first green gown I was very excited. Then I scrolled down. There are too many ideas here, many of them poorly executed. I understand the desire to have something new to contribute in the dialogue of fashion and design, but I am firmly of the belief that good design should enhance the beauty of the woman wearing it. It should flatter her in some way. These designs are odd and patchwork, for the most part, although I can see the beauty in the textiles and some of the construction is amazing. Overall this collection looks like they had a team of 20 designers, each with a different aesthetic, who all threw something into the punch bowl.
Some gorgous gowns and jackets, but really dislike the styling and the bitchfaces. The Green gown has an amazing silhuette and the colour would look soo good with some killer jewelry. The skirt of the cream dress is a wonderful sculpture, but I am not quite certain about the bodice (and where is her other leg?). The pale mint green jacket in row 2 would look wonderful with a nice voluminous skirt and not the weird thing it is paired with, but then I am quite a fan of vintage Dior.
And I was just thinking that about half of these look like they’re reinterpreting the New Look… again. I sure hope waist cinchers don’t come back in style! (at least outside the B&D set)
I was getting a Rodarte/Proenza Schouler vibe from some of these pieces. Still beautiful.
Some of these do an incredible job of combining futuristic (now that we’re living in the future, is that even a word any more?) and classic elements. With that said:
Row 1 #1: Bruce Wayne’s secretary gives a subtle wink. “I know who you are, Bruce.”
Row 3 #1: I found these fabric samples on the floor and then my meds kicked in.
Row 4 #1 Love. #2 Love. #3 Not even a size 2 can escape looking chunky. I fear what might happen if Debra Messing sees this.
Row 5 #3: Tilda, this one’s for you.
Row 6 #2 The gloves really sell it. #3 Ditto the jewelery.
Row 8 #2: Is that… bubble wrap?!?
Row 11 #1: Put it in a lavender or another sweet, soft color and that would be a hella princess dress with an edge.
Row 12 #3: In the event of a water landing, my dress can be used as a floatation device. Or to restrain patients during seizure activity.
As for the rest… others have said it better, but sign me up for the Can We Be Done With Sheer For A While Please petition.
Wow. Looks like they covered the models in glue and had them run around the fabric room. Not good.
I would literally not wear a single piece up there.
I couldn’t get past the hair stretched back and tight and totally grim, androgynous & almost identical faces of the models to even look at the dresses. They all looked freaking miserable like the hair pulled tight had given them a humongous headache.
Really? I thought how beautifully the hair showed off the gorgeous bones most of them have. But then, as a young person, I went through an intense ballet-dancer-crush phase, so slicked back hair on persons with less than 8% body fat looks almost normal to me.
Predicting some of those gowns on the RC, especially that glorious first one in green (and excepting the granny afghan, which I wouldn’t give to my dog to sleep on). A lot of the rest look overdone, maybe trying too hard to be ‘couture’, but at least the collection isn’t dull.
Get on Daily Mail and search for this headline “J’adore! Jennifer Lawrence rocks sexy Christian Dior crop top and culottes at Paris Fashion Week”. This look is from the Cruise 2014 collection. It’s not translating well in real life.
all the drags & rags remind me of a homeless guy in Soho near our office, he wanders around with all these hanging pieces around him, he also has a shopping cart that filled up with pieces like this…
Love the gloves, but what’s with all the Frankendresses? A lot of this collection looks really, really awkward.
With only a few exceptions – some of the gowns, which are glorious – I see bathrobes, bath towels, bath mats and vinyl shower curtains.
But not nipples and granny panties? Dearest, phone your ophthalmologist tomorrow morning.
I’m sorry but Dior is not the same without Galliano – These are mostly pretty Meh to me. It doesn’t seem as cohesive as previous collections and doesn’t have that WOW factor that I would expect from Dior. IMHO Dior is the BEST and should stay the BEST – they are just flagging in my eyes.
And still think they should hire Zac Posen for the top job
Flailing about, aimlessly.
I would be embarrassed to give these away. One thing’s for sure, it will be interesting to see who shows up in any of these on the RC, and if they do, how they are altered.
These are seriuosly unattractive looks….not even the models can pull these off! There is zero continuity or vibe. Haute Couture? No way!
Will be interesting to read the reviews from editors…..of course they will LOVE IT….so editorial, blah, blah blah!
On my first scroll, I’d never seen such a uniformly ugly and pointless waste of fabric in my life. Second time around there were 7 really lovely dresses, and another 6 or so that Tilda Swinton could pull off without batting an eye. But then she could wear the phone book.
Did a quick poll of one BK (me). Results: I Love 6 of these, Like 5, find 13 Okay, and Loathe 28.
Admire the deconstruction/reconstruction overall but only a few strike me – love the orange-blue ruffled ombre look, 5th tri-panel down.
Love the emerald evening dress, the mint jacket and I would love to see the 2 striped coats in a better photo. Otherwise, interesting ideas but too much bubble wrap and plasticky(sp) looking fabric, too many frankendresses and granny panties again???
8th row, first two dresses…Is that bubble wrap?
Oh my. No
Row 5. Dress 3 – Reminds me of PR alum Jay McCarroll’s design.
This reminds me of a class I took as a second-grader in “mixed media” (aka let’s gather small children and let them attack a canvas with the contents of your fabric drawer and recycling bin…)
WTF, Christian Dior. I feel like most of this stuff is busy, sloppy, and/or boring. I’m not saying some PhD-level fashionista won’t be able to make one of these items sing, but I’m damned if I can pick out which one.
the only dress I like in this collection is the last orange strip, although looks a little witchy. Overall the collection is erratic. No doubt the designer will be chastised.
I’m happy that each design (and model) is independent of the others. Lately, these collections tend to blend into something very repetitive and forgettable. Here it seems they’re all different enough to be interesting, but similar enough to make a cohesive show.
The sheer one with the buckles over the nips just looks silly, but the rest, I kind of like. Kind of. I’m deciding.
Nope, nope, nope. Too many frankendresses and a lot of the less cobbled-together are still aesthetically not pleasing. I like the far right dresses in rows 5 and 6 though, and some of the dresses/gowns towards the end (sheers in 4th-from-bottom assuming adding a slip; the entire 7th-from-bottom row; I also like the striped patterns though it’s hard to see some of the individual pieces because frankenwhatsits). But there’s a lot of fug for a Dior collection.
There are a couple hits here and there (5th row, 3rd dress and 6th row, first two dresses) but most of this is meh and then BOOBS!
I am in awe. Such originality!
“U-G-L-Y you ain’t got no alibi, you’re just UGLY. Cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye, you’re just UGLY…” Yep, Fishbone was the first thing that came to my head when looking at this.
I love it! Great collection!
Some of the simpler looks of this collection are the most impressive. Photos 13, 14 and 15 would attract Madonna 15 years ago. I can’t think of the name of the French designer who was her friend who designed provocative clothing for her. These remind me of his designs.
I’m more impressed with all the WOC than I am with the clothes. Is that a step of progress for raf that I’m smelling??? It’s hard to believe!
I kept wondering if skin could be lacerated when coming into contact with the jutting clavicles of the first model. The models are really distracting. The only way I could look at the clothing was to use my index finger to cover the heads (and clavicles.)
A precious few of these really ring “DIOR” to me…and a lot of the rest reads REALLY desperate to be ‘hip’. “WE CAN BE EDGY!”
It doesn’t all have to be The New Look…but remember what got you here, ya know?
Blue dress in the third row looks remarkably like a surgery cover-up gown. Otherwise, pretty amazingly fabulous.
I guess I’m finding a hard time seeing any kind of through-line with these pieces; maybe it’s not important, maybe I’m too anal about needing a clear theme of sorts.
Living for that first green dress, though.
This collection makes me ask Project Runway questions: Does it feel like a collection? Well, a few pieces look related to a couple of others, but otherwise seem to come from 3 or 4 collections, at least. Being COUTURE, it may not be germaine to ask if these things are flattering or even wearable. But when the most flattering & wearable pieces are also the most boring and the rest look like multiple personality disorder at play, I lose interest.
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