Cover Girl: Beyoncé for Vogue UK Magazine

Posted on April 03, 2013

Miss Bey plants her flag once again.

 

Beyoncé covers the May 2013 issue of Vogue UK magazine in a Jonathan Saunders ensemble photographed by Arthur Elgort.

On whether she considers herself a feminist: “That word can be very extreme…but I guess I am a modern-day feminist. I do believe in equality. Why do you have to choose what type of woman you are? Why do you have to label yourself anything? I’m just a woman and I love being a woman. I do believe in equality and that we have a way to go and it’s something that’s pushed aside and something that we have been conditioned to accept. But I’m happily married. I love my husband.”

Just once, we’d love to hear a celebrity, male or female, answer the question with “FUCK YEAH, I’m a feminist. Next?” No hedging, no rushing in to assure people that they don’t hate men; just a simple, declarative, “Yes, I am.”

We also wish we could fly, so there’s that.

 

Jonathan Saunders Spring 2013 Collection/Model: Jeneil Williams

Chanel Spring 2013 Collection/Model: Steffi Soede (NATHALIE)

 

We realize these garments are styled and clothes-pinned and photoshopped, like all clothes are in editorials, but she really is working the shit out of those looks and shaming the runway models who wore them first. That Jonathan Saunders skirt looks amazing on her.

 

[Photo Credit: Vogue UK, style.com]

    • Paigealicious

      She forgot the bottom half of the Chanel outfit.

      • Angela_the_Librarian

        Maybe it’s because she appears to be having really bad cramps!

    • charlotte

      I like that she appears to be wearing little makeup. Am I the only one who looked for a “G” shape on Bey’s head because the letter “G” is missing on the cover? Or maybe I’m just weird.

      • Sobaika

        She is so beautiful. There are shots of her in the HBO documentary wearing little or no makeup and she’s damn near flawless.

        Bitch.

    • Lori

      “But I’m happily married. I love my husband.”

      Because everyone knows you can’t be a feminist and be happily married, right? Geez Bey, could you just not?

      • Sobaika

        And yet, I still prefer this to I-Am-Not-A-Feminist-Katy-Perry who had the gall to declare this while accepting a Woman of the Year award.

        In the minds of the average reader (most unfortunately) I think feminist = fire breaking siren from hell. Statements like this will always need to be couched with qualifiers. The only celeb I can think of openly acknowledging her feminism and treating it as if it were no big deal is Keira Knightley

        • charlotte

          And Martha Plimpton. I love how she stepped in against the “labial saturation” comment.

        • Beth513

          And Amy Poehler and Tina Fey.

          • SassieCassy

            yeah but there not in the same wheelhouse as bey and keira. neither is martha. people dont like to hear about feminists from pretty people they want to fck on magazine covers. our culture is really messed up.

            • Beth513

              I see what you are saying. So sad.

          • http://www.facebook.com/sgmitter Sara Gmitter

            Also Zooey Deschanel. http://www.salon.com/2013/01/04/zooey_deschanel_declares_her_feminism/
            She basically does answer the question “Are you a feminist?” with “Fuck yeah!”

        • Sarah

          Reese Witherspoon, Ellen Page, Gabrielle Union, Ellen Degeneres, Geena Davis, Joan Jett, Jane Fonda, Lady Gaga, Angelina Jolie. And any woman who ISN’T a feminist doesn’t appreciate herself enough, and if that’s the case with Beyonce, damn, I’ll take some of her good stuff and flaunt it.

          • SassieCassy

            she clearly states that she is a modern-day feminist. that could mean anything. there is a lot of room and a lot of schools of thought within the feminist movement. for all we know she probably means that shes not into burning bras.

            • Sarah

              I was referring to her need to qualify her statements, and so much. And I did say “IF that’s the case.” I don’t think she’s not probably just as feminist as the next average American woman, but I don’t like the fact that she was given the chance to say something, and felt the need to water it down to nothing – and worse, because as many folks here have pointed out, loving your husband doesn’t revoke your girlpower card.

            • AnaRoW

              She probably feels the need to qualify her statements because so many people (of both sexes) assume feminists hate men. Look at the heat Gloria Steinem took when she married. If Beyonce had said that she was a straight feminist, people on another site would be ripping her apart for saying that. Instead she’s being ripped apart here for calling herself a modern day feminist. She can’t win.

          • rococodada

            Thank you for listing all those great women who proclaim their feminist stance. I am a man and I am a feminist! (It surprises me when that shocks people when I say that)

          • Sobaika

            Lady Gaga has said “I’m not a feminist. I hail men, I love men.”

            There are a LOT of qualifying statements around feminism from the entertainment industry, and they don’t all come from Beyonce.

            • SassieCassy

              SHUTUP. i did not know she said that but google confirms this.

            • Sarah

              True. I’m not a Gaga Fan, so I don’t know what she said, specifically, so I was thinking of strong women who show other girls that they can do what they want and not answer to anyone.

            • kishy

              Beyonce shows little girls the same thing in her image and career. No matter how she phrases it its pretty obvious she is a feminist if she believes in equality and is passionate about womens issues

            • Sarah

              I didn’t say she didn’t. I was offering a reply to Sobaika with some other female celebrities that have been called “feminists” for whatever reason (powerful support of women, outspoken on women’s issues, etc.)

          • Heather

            Didn’t Sarah Palin call herself a feminist? I mean, she may not know what the word actually means (since she reads so many newspapers and all), but… ugh.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jessica-Charlotte-Siewierkiewicz/503556621 Jessica Charlotte Siewierkiewi

          ‘fire breathing siren from hell’ – isn’t that called a Straw Feminist? Also feminist = belief in equality of the sexes. Which would make 99.99 % women feminist in the West?

          • Sobaika

            I was commenting on the perception of feminism. Straw Feminists are tropes within media, and are an exaggerated version of what people think feminists actually are.

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jessica-Charlotte-Siewierkiewicz/503556621 Jessica Charlotte Siewierkiewi

              Ah, so that’s the difference. Thanks, Sobaika :-)

      • maggiemaybe

        Yeah, that line just about made my head explode.

    • http://www.twitter.com/anneofnogables AnneNotHathaway

      If I was a billionaire, I would hire her to wear that skirt in the middle of my grand ball room, and just spin around for hours at a time in the middle. It would be the sexiest disco ball in the world. Queen Bey, never change.

      • Sobaika

        She is werqing it, no doubt. It’s as if it were made for her.

      • Beth513

        This is what JayZ did, no? (as my feminist card is revoked)

    • http://twitter.com/hmbscully WendyD

      She really hates pants, doesn’t she.

    • gabbilevy

      Meh. On a scale from one to Sasha Fierce, this is somewhere around “Video Phone.”

      • Vlasta Bubinka

        That first outfit is a big huh? The top is pure ’80s Jane Fonda aerobics class. The skirt is a Studio 54 disco ball costume for Halloween parties with Liza.

    • Martha Deutsch

      Happily married … to man who waited until he had a daughter to declare he’d stop calling women bitches. Because apparently being borne of a woman or having a woman bear his child wasn’t enough.

      • SassieCassy

        you know the whole ‘bitch’ thing was a rumor, its been debunked for a while now

        still not sure how it reflects on bey. its a word shes used in her own music along with jt, pink, and practically every pop artist

        • Lori

          Yes, apparently having a daughter has no effect on Jay-Z’s use of the world “bitch”. It’ll be fun to see what he has to say the first time someone publicly calls Blue Ivy that.

          • SassieCassy

            yeah – so lets get all judgy!! rap music BAD. rap music SEXIST. jay is the only man to ever bitch in his music!!

            i know the word is complicated and i dont really like it either but have some perspective. tlo use bitch all the time altho in a different context. so do most of the commenters here. i dont see how her husband using it negates beys feminism.

            • Lori

              1. Whatever you’re responding to is apparently in your imagination, because it’s not what I said.

              2. If anyone is negating Beyonce’s feminsim, it’s Beyonce.

            • Bexxx

              There’s a lot of racism in the way that people approach the use of the word “bitch” in hip hop, as if all genres of music aren’t abhorrently sexist.

            • NoGovernmentName

              I love rap music. Listen to it all the time, have been since the 80s. Big fan of Jay-Z. I can flash my creds all day, but calling your wife a bitch in your songs is pretty bad. I have wondered for a while how or why she puts up with it. But hey, it’s their marriage. Who knows.

          • Rand Ortega

            I’m sure she already has. Being African American, I’m sure she’s been called far worse.

        • Martha Deutsch

          Ok, so, happily married … to a man who refers to women as bitches.

          • Rand Ortega

            Out of curiosity, do you feel the same about Gwenneth Paltrow or Quentin Tarantino when they use the word “nigger” w/ impunity? How about their spouses?

        • NoGovernmentName

          Except that he referred to Beyonce as a bitch on the Black Album several times, so this husband she loves so much had no problem labeling her a bitch… but “feminist” is too extreme for her. WhatEVER.

          • Rand Ortega

            Really? Where? The only instance I’ve seen where he referred to Beyonce specifically as a “bitch” is on the track, “That’s My Bitch”, which is from Kanye West’s “Watch The Throne”. It’s really quite a complimentary paean to her talent & beauty & how both buck the mainstream trend.

            • NoGovernmentName

              Just off the top of my head: “The hottest bitch in the game is wearing my chain” and “Me and my beautiful bitch in the back of the ‘bach” in “Dirt Off Your Shoulder.” I’m sure I could find more but not worth the effort. And if you think being called a bitch by your husband is somehow a compliment, then I urge you to see Gwyneth Paltrow’s tweet as also a compliment. Try it. It’s the same mechanism at play in both scenarios.

            • Rand Ortega

              It isn’t. While I know very little about Jay Z or rap in general, I wonder if his using the term when referring to his wife isn’t ironic given he calls her beautiful, etc. or part of the “gansta” culture. I’m not condoning his use of the word. I do know Gwynneth Paltrow, whether you want to accept it or not, given the racist history of this country, was not being “ironic” & has absolutely no right using the n word in any form. But keep trying to convince yourself that it is the same. You’ll sleep better.

            • NoGovernmentName

              I’m not the one who said it was the same! YOU are the one who keeps equating them. Not me. I didn’t bring Gwyneth up or use her or her husband as a way of blocking criticism of Jay-Z and Beyonce. Can you not see the excuse making you are engaging in? He was being ironic? No. Calling a woman hot, and calling her a bitch in the same breath– degrading. You are beautiful and you are MY BITCH. That’s LOVE. Nice. Keep telling yourself that it’s ironic, and if it is, it’s OK. You’ll sleep better.

            • Rand Ortega

              What part of “I’m not condoning his use of the word” don’t you get? Again, read my previous posts. I’m saying if Chris Martin is not responsible for GOOPS actions/words etc. why is Beyonce being held accountable for Jay Z’s?

            • NoGovernmentName

              Can you not see the difference here at all? We have one ill-advised use of the word n***a (note that she pre-censored herself, showing an awareness that the word should be off limits, if not the judgment not to say it) as the title of a song that she was onstage singing. Is Chris Martin of African descent? Was GOOP calling him the n word? So you can see how it might be totally different if you claim you might be a feminist, but your husband regularly, pervasively, and casually uses the word bitch, including ABOUT YOU. See, that is where she gets the right to say something, because it is a regular thing and it specifically involves her. GOOP, however annoying, moronic, or wrongheaded she may be, does not have the cultural power that Jay-Z has, and she is not regularly transgressing Chris Martin publicly. That is why it is not the same thing. Beyonce is NOT (I repeat) NOT being held accountable for what Jay-Z says, only for her own reaction, or non-reaction, to how he chronically talks about her and about women in public.

            • SassieCassy

              beyonce doesnt owe you or the public any explanation. she doesnt owe you shit.

            • NoGovernmentName

              Yeah, not sure where I said she did, but she wants my money, right? And she wants our attention. Not all that attention is going to be positive. And I don’t owe you shit in terms of the judgments I’m allowed to make about celebrities. But thanks for your input.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              Let’s all take a deep breath and step back from the important topic of Beyonce for a bit, okay?

            • Rand Ortega

              “We all have 1 ill advised use of the word n***”? That explains a lot. ABOUT YOU. Again, you’re trying to move the goal posts by implying that because Chris Martin isn’t racially connected to his wife’s use of the worse word you can call African Americans he gets a pass for not saying anything. What about his responsibility as a human being to speak out about using racial slurs? Pre-censored? Now that’s apologist’s terminology to be sure. What’s Tarantino’s excuse? Artistic license? What about his Significant other? Should Uma Thurman, who QT was in a relationship w/ at the time, be criticized for her lack of reaction to the 42 times Tarantino used the slur in “Pulp Fiction”? She was in the movie. She’s not racially connected to the word so she also gets a pass? PLEASE. Beyonce’s “non reaction”? Again, in your desperate attempt to be right, you contradict yourself. Your quote: “one would think that she would have something to say about it.” Are you saying Beyonce’s lyrics of female empowerment aren’t enough? Why? & why, if now you suddenly claim she’s not being held accountable for what Jay Z says, why reply to my asking Martha Deutsch about bringing Jay Z into a thread about Beyonce if she doesn’t condemn Paltrow’s spouse or Tarantino’s? FYI: The only thing totally different– your lack of reaction to the most horrific slur in the English language said by anyone over your reaction to the word albeit wrong used by 1 particular man. I look forward to the next time Zosia Mamet is featured here & you criticize her for her lack of reaction to her father’s regular, pervasive & casual sexism in his plays.

    • http://twitter.com/jelizap Jane Patterson

      I am just very sad at how many people think that loving your husband would ever be a disqualification for feminism. We need way better PR.

      • Lauren Hall

        And that “that word can be very extreme”. Oy. It’s a movement, not a disease

      • Aurumgirl

        Actually, we just need better education. If people bothered to actually read some feminist writings (take your pick from literally millions of feminists’ points of view! From every point of history! In every imaginable discipline! Through every aspect of human interaction! Hot damn, as a philosophy, it’s left no stone unturned!) you’d never hear this idiocy parroted back at you from whatever dark recess of ignorance produces it.

      • Hangry Feminist

        Hell yes we do. I am sick to death of reading pussyfootin’ answers to “are you a feminist?” Deferring to ignorant-ass people who think feminists want to keep all men bound and shackled in vagina prisons for eternity is not advancing the cause.

    • Little_Olive

      I dunno about the faces, you guys. In the cover shoot it’s like she is constipated, in the other one it’s like she needs midol menstrual asap.

      • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

        Yup. There’s a third pic floating around the web (celebitchy) where the cramps/gotta poop face is full on awkward. I thought to myself, the editor in charge is clearly not a fan.

    • crash1212

      Love that Chanel, but her pose makes it look like she has cramps or something.

    • http://twitter.com/foodycatAlicia foodycatAlicia

      I’m waiting to see what Beyonce and Salma’s whole Chime for Change thing is actually going to do for women. I’m not hugely optimistic it has to be said. But they’ll look good whilst doing it.

    • lrober03

      Only Queen Bey could make me like a croptop

    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      In perfect harmony with our esteemed hosts. She looks amazing, regardless of how much real and digital manipulation has been done.

    • http://dontmakeitlikeimdumb.blogspot.com/ annabelle archer

      I like her hair. That’s about it.

    • MilaXX

      I think she looks great and I really don’t mind her comments on feminism. I’m just on Bey overload.

      • SassieCassy

        i think this is only the beginning of her press takeover

        the cover is amazing

        • MilaXX

          *sigh* I know we’re in for a full court press once The Mrs Carter tour takes off.

    • Beth513

      It hurt to read that.
      “But I’m happily married. I love my husband” – sweetie that is not something that is mutually exclusive with being a feminist. You are a feminist, now own it so the little girls who look up to you know that it’s a good thing.

    • Sara

      I’ll never get the pose in the second photo. She looks like she has cramps.

    • elemspbee

      T’Lo, you ARE FLY!

    • dorothea_brooke

      *I’m* an unapologetic feminist. But sadly snarky comments on the internet don’t bring the fame and fortune, nor do middling looks.

      These pictures are meh.

      Ugh on the “I love my husband!” thing. Oh shut up dear. You’re one of the most privileged woman on the planet. What are you afraid of?

    • Kristy Evans

      Love the cover, but that second photo looks like she has gas pains. Just saying.

      And I agree about the feminism question. Hasn’t it been long enough? Can’t you just say you’re a feminist, since all that really means is you think women are equal? Geez.

    • AnnieC

      Those are TOTALLY her thighs. Totally. @@

      • Sara L.

        This whole “We must photoshop space between women’s thighs because ? ? ?” thing is getting out of control, isn’t it? I would love to see the original photos.

        • Sarah

          It is weird. I have a friend who is CONVINCED that all women, if the “proper weight,” would have a gap between their thighs. I have told her over and over that on some people it’s just not physiologically possible, but she persists in thinking its a “fat thing,” and berating herself because her thighs touch. And when I ask her when they ever didn’t, she points out that at age fifteen, she had a gap. Then I laugh…

          • kishy

            its not a fat thing it is a hip bone structure thing

            • 909girl601world

              Agreed! I have wide hips and my thighs – while considerably more generous than Beyonce’s – have never touched.

            • Sarah

              And see, I have wide hips, but even when I was a youthful less-than-a-buck-20 chick, my thighs touched at the top. They did when I was a child, for chrissake. There’s nothing fat about it – just my mom’s genes.

          • NoGovernmentName

            Ironically, when I was growing up, if a girl had a space between her thighs, other girls said she “had a gap” and that meant that she was sexually loose. Maybe I just grew up with fatter girls?

    • Pamela Hunt

      So. Sick. Of. This. Woman.

      • Vickiefantastico

        This. SO this!

    • lobsterlen

      Eh on the clothes and magazine photographs.

      Honestly I just wish these magazine reporters wouldn’t ask such obvious inane questions. I am sure if that question could have been asked to get a more meaningful response. The responses often sound defensive. I am not even sure why she asked about feminism. She is a beautiful woman, with an ok voice but has a lot of stage charisma married to a really rich guy. Its not like she broke any barriers like Lena Horne or something.

      • SassieCassy

        hmm. i think she has a really strong voice and the ‘broke barriers’ thing is disputable. she is a wildly successful black woman with an all female band who came from a super popular girl group all the while singing about female empowerment. to think that her success didnt break barriers or at least wasnt atypical doesnt ring true to me. she has done this while maintaining a cookie cutter family life. she means a lot to black women, and along with teh obamas, will smith, and oprah is the face of “post-racial” america.

        i agree about how the questions get asked tho.

    • alyce1213

      ““That word can be very extreme…but I guess I am a modern-day feminist. I do believe in equality.”

      I don’t know what the fuck that non-answer means. And what’s wrong with taking a stand and defining yourself?

      • Sally Brownson

        I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but there are definitely stars who want to be controversial and discussed for their opinions (Gaga comes to mind), and there are stars who want to be strictly business and as non-controversial as possible- Beyonce is definitely the latter type. It’s why she makes such a poor choice for Snatch Game. She never says anything controversial at all, so there’s not much to make fun of.

    • conniemd

      Beyonce actually has a waist and hips, which is why the skirt looks so much better than the model who has neither, so the skirt slips down crookedly exposing her belly button.

    • decormaven

      That second pose looks a bit forced, kind of ANTM-inspired. The PR engine is really running on all fours now for her.

    • snarkykitten

      “I’m a feminist, but…” no. shut the fuck up.

    • http://twitter.com/PsychicMuppet Joanna Carver

      Here goes: FUCK YEAH I’M A FEMINIST. All it means is that you believe in gender equality (looking at you, Taylor Swift). My dad’s a feminist, my mom’s a feminist, my sisters and friends are feminists, and my boyfriend is a feminist.

      • StelledelMare

        Thank you! The best quote I’ve ever heard/read on feminism is that “Feminism is the radical idea that women are human beings.” I think that if you believe in gender/sex equality, you are a feminist, hands down.

    • Trisha26

      Not feeling anything from her except rigid posing. I love that coral outfit, too bad she had to “look sexy” and couldn’t show us the skirt.

      • SassieCassy

        pretty sure that is the stylist’s call

    • Melanie Schultz

      commenting for the first time to say I love you guys. “that word can be very extreme” made me want to vomit.

    • http://www.facebook.com/oyeyemi.egunlade Oyeyemi Egunlade

      Does she even know feminist means?

      • NoGovernmentName

        Clearly no

        • formerlyAnon

          Though, sadly, she is working from a widely-held and deeply entrenched definition.

          • NoGovernmentName

            It is sad. It’s another failure of message by liberal, humanist movements.

          • http://www.facebook.com/oyeyemi.egunlade Oyeyemi Egunlade

            Ha!

    • carpediva

      “Working the shit out of these looks….” That’s kind of ironic, as she looks like she’s having the exact opposite problem. If suffering from occasional constipation makes you a cover model, hell, I might be ready for my closeup! :)

    • http://twitter.com/DarthJaeda Jaeda Laurez

      I don’t know why what she said is disappointing- unless those “…” concealed some other statements, she never said that’s what SHE believed. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with acknowledging that for some, being thoroughly, unabashedly proud of being a wife is not an acceptable part of feminism. And not to get too deep into it, I know plenty of black women who believe in what some might say are feminist principles, but absolutely refuse to call themselves feminists, preferring “womanist” or not to be called anything at all, so she’s hardly alone.

      But i love the coral top- it almost looks like a fancy sweatshirt, which sounds terrible, but looks great in that photo.

      • Sobaika

        Womanist is something I’ve heard from a lot of women of color. I don’t know that Beyonce was thinking that deep into the politics of feminist theory, but it’s emblematic of what some people feel – believing in gender equality without the label necessarily.

    • guest2visits

      Not every woman is asked that question. It sounded like a compliment. I just assume young women of today don’t
      know it’s a positive, not a negative. Sometimes I’m just surprised it’s asked at all.
      I like the skirt a little better on the model; maybe the less tummy – the better it works. Plus, i love the model’s shoes and
      glasses. And the look would have been stronger with the missing skirt on the second; it’s such a great material.

    • kmk05

      Why yes, equality between the sexes is extreme! Oh FFS, Beyonce. Can’t you be bothered to Google feminism and read the freaking definition?

      And labels ARE important, Beyonce. When you label yourself you become real, you embody an abstract that may be easy for other people to denigrate when ‘they don’t know anyone who is [replace with attribute of your choice]‘. You change other people’s perceptions and force them to reconsider their stance.

      ARGH.

    • Qitkat

      Having glanced at some feminist blogs, which I have found can be very, very angry, I’m not sure I own up to being a feminist. But I sure as hell believe in gender equality.

      I’m not crazy about this fashion spread, Bey has been featured much better elsewhere.

      • kishy

        exactly.

      • NoGovernmentName

        Feminist bloggers do not define feminism. You can be a feminist and not be VERY, VERY angry.

        • Qitkat

          True. But they have done more of a disservice by turning off women like me.

          Perhaps I’m fortunate in that the majority of women I have known have been strong, independent, and resourceful, but not angry, and have seemed to take it as given that they have the right to pursue anything that a man does, and have been wholeheartedly supported by the men in their lives. So I guess you could say we have acted on our beliefs without giving them a label.

          • NoGovernmentName

            Why would it turn you off that some people are angry about the way women are treated? Why is being angry at injustice such a huge problem? And you can be supported by the men in your personal life, but it is by no means a given that you will be supported by men in the wider world, or other women for that matter. In fact, it’s almost a given that you won’t be. The biggest failure of feminism is that people think that saying they are one means that they are somehow anti-man, or are somehow militant. No, really, it doesn’t mean that. No one will think you are going to burn your bra.

            • Qitkat

              Sigh. I’ve been misunderstood before when I’ve tried to discuss feminism. The whole movement, it really, really hasn’t been a part of my life. As hard as it might be to believe, no one close to me has been raped, or battered or forced to bear a child she did not want. Any failures that I have in my own career path I take full responsibility for myself. I don’t blame anything in that realm on sexism. Not everything touches everyone’s lives. So I’m very fortunate that way. Which is most likely why I generally don’t get involved in discussions about it. I don’t have the tools or knowledge to be perceptive enough. But apparently feminism does need a new PR campaign 50 years after the publication of Friedan’s book, which you will probably be shocked to learn I have never read. I believe that the Equal Rights Amendment ought to have become part of our Constitution. I believe that women should serve however they wish in the military. I believe that a woman ought to become president, and not have to apologize if she becomes more emotional than a man. And I’m old enough to have burnt my bra if I wanted to, but I didn’t.

              I am not turned off that people are angry at injustice. There are many things that have upset and concerned me that involve all types of injustice, particularly involving children. In my original comment I was specifically referring to those women who are so angry that nearly any topic they tackle turns into a livid rant eventually coming back around to the lack of freedom and opportunities and the mistreatment of women, no matter how far away from that topic the original subject was. And I have seen such websites, and I never wish to read them again, and I do hope they are in the minority. If you wish to point me towards any website(s) that are not full of misplaced anger, then I might check them out.

            • NoGovernmentName

              Let me put it to you this way: what turned me into an angry feminist was trying to deal with America’s horrendously sexist maternity leave policies, and my challenges with having to go back to work when my child was 3 months old. It damn near broke me, and since then, many aspects of how women are still treated very differently have become clear to me. Then you hear about things that happen in the military, or about the Steubenville rape case, and you see that, you know, it’s still a huge problem. You don’t need to read any websites to be a feminist. There is no required reading or feeling to have or way to be. I just wish that women especially did not feel the need to decide what feminists are based on cultural memes and then dismiss them.

            • Qitkat

              I am sorry that you had such heart-breaking challenges when you had to leave your baby and return to work. This is one of America’s very serious problems. I hope that you have a wonderful relationship with your child in spite of your experiences.

              I don’t think I’m being dismissive. I think if we could have a true conversation face to face that we might find more points of understanding than opposition. I really don’t like being labeled as something I am not when I have not had certain experiences which other women have had. Why should I have to apologize for not ever being in the position of being assaulted, or denied benefits, or losing a promotion because of sexist policies? If you choose to believe that doesn’t make me a worthy participant in this discussion, so be it. Perhaps I don’t have the tools or knowledge to be perceptive enough. But in real life, I am a very empathetic, sympathetic person, even if I have never labeled myself as a feminist.

            • NoGovernmentName

              If it is really true that you have never experienced one iota of sexist language, biased behavior, or institutionalized discrimination (a possibility that I think approaches zero, but maybe you are the luckiest woman alive), then maybe the feminism you could get behind is helping out the 99.9% of women who do experience those things, especially women of color and low SES women. No one said you had to apologize for anything. No one said you shouldn’t participate in the discussion. You seem to be getting awfully defensive, when all I am saying is, please don’t decide that all feminists are angry, or that your lack of anger disqualifies you from being a feminist. It doesn’t. I am trying to INCLUDE you, not exclude you.

            • Qitkat

              I have certainly been in a workplace where sexual innuendos and teasing were present, but not to the point where I or any of the other women felt it escalated to the point of sexual harassment or job discrimination. Getting to know the men as actual people went a long way towards having a comfortable work environment.

              I love men, I had better, with 3 grown sons, and 3 young grandsons. It has always been inherent in how they were raised to give them values that respected both sexes and human rights of every kind. While I am no longer in the workplace, I have two daughters-in-law and friends who are. While we haven’t specifically had conversations about feminism in the past (which may seem odd to many of you), I’ll bring it up with them. It will be interesting to see where it leads.

              I’ll be more questioning about any hype I hear about feminists from now on.

              Peace.

            • formerlyAnon

              The problem with this and all other sincere, trying-to-be-constructive conversations involving the term “feminist” is that there are so many deeply entrenched and widely-held definitions of what that means. I know many, many reasonably intelligent good-hearted people who DO think that if you identify as a feminist you are going to burn your bra – and that you devalue and are condescending about the work a woman does managing and care-taking a family and children, and that you want to be privileged over men by law. (It’s like the divides over what “affirmative action” meant, back in the day, only more so.)

              The fact that these people know me, my life choices, that these include NONE of the above, and that I identify as a feminist doesn’t change their opinion of what a feminist is.

            • Qitkat

              Anon, I recall that you and I once had a similar discussion. Thanks for jumping in.

            • formerlyAnon

              My problem is holding myself back from jumping in. ;D

          • Catiline

            Congratulations on not being angry. I was sexually assaulted in high school and knew three girls who were raped by the time I graduated. Not one of our assailants saw a fucking day in jail. Yes, my feminism involves anger. Anger is an entirely appropriate reaction to injustice.

            • Qitkat

              My heart goes out to you. I am so very, very sorry that this terrible act was forced upon you and your friends, and that no justice was served. I wish you love, and comfort, and peace, and joy in your fife.

            • Jenna Ledford-Millerd

              QitKat, one of the great things about feminism and what it provides for people (particularly women) is a space to express anger and be justified in that anger. Anger is often an emotion that women are socially restricted from expressing – and this is apparent in the way that feminists are always labeled
              as angry in order to discredit them. Anger can be good and powerful – especially when it mobilizes people towards eradicating social injustices. You don’t think queer people are angry because people in society want to deny you basic rights all because you love/desire someone of the same sex. That’s why we
              are fighting right now for marriage equality in the Supreme Court. Anger has motivated and fueled people to make this a national issue in the same way that anger has fueled feminists to dispell rape myths – you know like she was asking for it. I’ve never been a victim of rape, but it infuriates me that rape culture perpetuates the myth that a rape victim actually asks or wants to be raped.

            • Qitkat

              I’m feeling a little overwhelmed by the unexpected direction (from my point of view) this conversation has evolved. I know myself to be one of those people whose ability to discourse with intelligence diminishes the angrier I become.

              I do appreciate your very thoughtful contribution. Your points are valid, and I really don’t disagree with you on any of them.

      • librarygrrl64

        “But I sure as hell believe in gender equality.”

        And that is the core of feminism. :-)

    • Sunraya

      I am just so bored with her. Add her to the list with annE Hathaway of those who I could ever see (or hear, in Bey’s case) again and be quite content. She is beautiful, an ok dancer and a mildly talented singer. She is no Amy Winehouse or Ella Fitzgerald.

    • Jase Sherman

      She looks great but that last piece looks like a car mat.

    • Carrieanno

      That skirt looks amazing on her because she has curves.

    • kishy

      whoop there it is

    • Guest

      I find it very amusing that Bey’s head is a substitute for the ‘G’ on the cover for some reason.

    • NoGovernmentName

      Being a feminist is extreme? Forget you, Bey.

    • NoGovernmentName

      So criticism of Beyonce is negated by the bad behavior of Tarantino and Paltrow? What?

      • Rand Ortega

        Criticism of Beyonce based on her husband’s actions is not only stupid, it’s biblically anti feminist. Is she merely an adjunct of her man, born of Adam’s Rib, therefore responsible for his behavior/words/artistry? Or are they 2 individuals who have the right to express themselves however they see fit? Has Chris Martin been criticized for Gwynneth Paltrow using a racial slur? Of course not. Then why should Beyonce be held accountable for what Jay-Z sings/raps?

        • NoGovernmentName

          Sorry, but there are so many problems with this statement. Where to begin? First: Jay-Z can handle his own criticism for the language that he uses, but one would think that she would have something to say about it. Would a person who genuinely embraced feminism or womanism tolerate her husband calling her a bitch, repeatedly, very publicly? I mean, would you call your partner a bitch, not ironically, not jokingly?Why not? And then her reason for not being a feminist is so much love for her husband, who does not feel the need to belay the use of bitch describing her. It’s hard not to look sideways at that.

          As for Chris Martin: if he were even half as famous and influential as Jay-Z , and if this incident were one tenth as egregious as you are pretending it is (not only did she *** out half the word, but later, as you know, The-Dream said he did the tweet, not her, but whatever for that excuse), yes, the heat would be just the same. Worse, maybe, because no one would say “Well, all those boring radio rock songs use that word, why single out Coldplay?” That is to say, the heat would tepid as fuck, considering that half the posts in this comment thread are defending Beyonce’s half assed quasi-feminist mumblings.

          I hate even remotely having to defend anything GOOP says or does, but you cannot compare the pervasive use of the word BITCH in Jay-Z music to one boneheaded, half crossed out use by someone who was onstage during the singing of the song with the title that she tweeted. But of course you are going to paint me as some sort of apologist, so I don’t know why I bother.

          • Rand Ortega

            I wouldn’t call you an apologist. I’d call you morally &
            intellectually dishonest. You keep moving the goal post in a very lame
            attempt to try to be right. You’re now saying because Jay Z is more famous
            & influential, Beyonce is more at fault than Chris Martin for not
            censoring someone else’s art? Again, you’re putting the onus on her,
            & worse because you’re intimating as if you know for a fact she’s
            never protested his use of the word. You don’t. As for my “pretending” the Paltrow incident is egregious, perhaps when you’re called a racial slur that reaches
            to the heart of this country’s racist oppression that continues & many of us
            still experience to this day, you might understand why Paltrow’s
            privileged obtuseness is so insulting. Or maybe you’re 1 of those ironic
            white people who think because you’re so “post-racial” you have the
            right to use the n word or it’s not such a big deal. Either way, to place the blame on Beyonce for her husband’s actions is ridiculous. PS: She didn’t say she wasn’t a feminist. Her quote is called Public Relations. It’s to ensure pleasing all of her customers, male & female, from all ends of the spectrum of the feminist issue.

            • NoGovernmentName

              Censoring someone else’s art? Gwyneth Paltrow made a tweet (which she censored HERSELF) and you are comparing that to Jay-Z’s regular, casual use of the word “bitch” to describe all manner of women, including his wife, and *I* am the one being intellectually and morally dishonest? And somehow Chris Martin was supposed to make a public statement about this, and because he didn’t, it’s cool that Jay-Z uses that word and Beyonce accepts and condones it. Wow. I am putting the onus on Beyonce in this thread only because a) it’s a thread about her, b) she gave a weasely, lame answer about feminism. If it were a picture of Jay-Z and he said this, I’d be giving him a much, much bigger ration of shit.

              I am not saying that Paltrow was not insulting. Be insulted. You are the one who is killing yourself to make apologia for both Jay-Z’s sexism and his wife’s internalized sexism. I wonder how you know I am white. Did you somehow look at that profile pic of me and use your psychic powers to determine that? I’m just curious, because you are apparently also accusing me of using the n word too. Wow again. Do enlighten me, and make a ton more judgments about me while you are at it. But the bottom line here is that YOU are the one who is making a very dishonest statement. It’s called a tu quoque fallacy. Google it. It’s what you are doing in this discussion to a T. In small words: the Jay-Z/Beyonce situation is exactly equivalent to the Gwyneth Paltrow/Chris Martin situation, and unless the former was handled in the precise way you want it, then criticism of Jay-Z and Beyonce is invalid. It is to LAUGH.

              And I’m so sorry, but selling out feminism by saying “it’s extremist” for the sake of public relations is pretty pathetic. But then, if there is anything worse than a Rihanna Stan, it’s a Queen Beyonce Stan.

            • Rand Ortega

              It appears you’re just pissed you can’t blame Beyonce for her husbands lyrics & she didn’t say what you wanted her to say about feminism in a magazine blurb. You’re evidently so upset you contradicted yourself several times: If the situations are the same, if Chris Martin doesn’t have to put out a public statement, why does Beyonce? Why does she have to speak out if CM doesn’t? If this thread is about Beyonce, why drag Jay Z & his behavior into it? Isn’t she an individual independent of him? How is her sexism internalized? So many of her lyrics are about female empowerment. Again, how do you know she accepts & condones his use of the word? More importantly how am I apologizing for anyone? I wrote in a previous post I don’t condone Jay Z’s lyrics. I simply believe we are responsible for our own individual actions which includes tweets & art. I’m accusing you of using the n word? Where did I do that? I did wonder maybe you believe it’s ok for you & Gwynneth Paltrow to use the n word or why you don’t consider what GOOP did such a big deal (Your quote: ” if this incident were one tenth as egregious as you are pretending it is”) because I hear that reasoning often from hipsters. Obviously I hit a nerve. A sad, angry, defensive nerve that compels you to insult me by “assisting” me w/ “small words” or telling me to Google a term you automatically believe I don’t know the meaning of. Think about how that sounds, then ask yourself if I’m not justified in questioning your rationale re: GOOP using the n word.

            • NoGovernmentName

              The only thing I am pissed about is your arrogant, rude characterizations of me, based on zero evidence. You don’t want to argue my point. You just want to attack me personally, put me into a little identity box, and then dismiss what you think is my point. That is a classic ad hominem attack, and it allows you to keep the focus on me, even though you know nothing about me.

              I never said Beyonce had to put out a public statement. I never said it was OK for me or anyone to say the n word, and guess what? GOOP didn’t say it. So really, your comparison is the utterest dreck, a great way of changing the subject from Beyonce labeling feminists as extreme while allowing herself to be spoken of in degrading terms by the husband she loves so much that it prevents her from embracing feminism.

              The only nerve you hit is the one where I don’t like strangers on the internet being incredibly rude and presumptuous. If you already know the meaning of tu quoque, then I can only assume that you were using it on purpose to shore up an argument that you know has no merit, a false comparison between GOOP and Jay-Z that is outright laughable. You are also showing how much you lack when it comes to awareness of gender equality, when your apologia for Jay-Z includes the absurd notion that being called a “beautiful beeeeeeeeeeeeetch” by your husband is either ironic or flattering or both. That is making excuses. I am wondering if you might not be the type of person who thinks it’s OK to call a woman a bitch, if you feel that she should be flattered by your insult. That is the upshot of your defense of Jay-Z, but I can only imagine your reaction if I made a similar defense of someone’s use of the n-word.

            • Rand Ortega

              More contradictions.
              If the comparison between GOOP & Jay Z is laughable & “utter dreck”, why in an earlier post did you claim “I am not saying that Paltrow was not insulting. Be insulted”?

              Chris Martin isn’t black so he doesn’t have to say anything about his wife’s racial slur? Because it wasn’t not directed at him? Really? But then why Beyonce is “allowing” Jay Z’s sexism? Because she’s a woman? I don’t get that. Enlighten me.

              Where did I attack you personally? How is pointing out the contradictions in
              your posts a personal attack? How does questioning your motivations put
              you into “a little identity box”?

              Your quote: “I never said Beyonce had to put out a public statement”.
              Your earlier quote: ” but one would think that she would have something to say about it”.
              On that subject, aren’t her lyrics of female empowerment enough?

              Again, where am I apologizing for Jay Z? You claim I’m dismissing your point
              (or as you state, what I “think” is your point. But I’m being “rude”
              & “arrogant”. LOL), but you refuse to accept the fact that I have
              written “I don’t condone his lyrics” more than once. I’ve also written I
              know little about Jay Z or rap in general which is why I wondered if he
              was being ironic but that is obviously meaningless to you as you prefer
              to accuse me of making excuses.
              “How much I lack when it comes to awareness of gender equality”? I’ve spent the last 25 years fighting for gender, racial, & orientation equality in an industry that claims because of my race & sex I don’t have a right to be a part of. Don’t get ME started.

              How & where does Beyonce label feminists as extreme? She said THE WORD is “extreme”. She calls
              herself a “modern day feminist” & advocates for equality. You may think the quote is pathetic & while she may want your $ & attention, there are millions of other people whose attention she does
              have who accept (& even agree w/) her statement. She’s an entertainer. Right or wrong, just like w/ any business, neutrality keeps the fans coming back. Just ask the Dixie Chicks.

              “Allowing herself to be spoken of in degrading terms” ? Allowing? Again you’re
              expecting Beyonce to be responsible for someone else actions. Why?

              How does Jay Z’s behavior prevent her from embracing feminism? Her lyrics don’t embrace feminism?

              In conclusion, criticize Beyonce, but do so w/ validity; because of what
              she says & does not because of what you perceive (not know) she is “allowing”
              her husband as he still uses a derogatory term towards women. I’m taking
              this conversation to look inward at my own reactions to media & the
              fair & unfair criticisms of those in that spotlight. I respectfully suggest you do the same.

            • NoGovernmentName

              1. You can be insulted by whatever you want. The comparison, however, is laughable. GOOP didn’t even use the word you are saying she used. Jay-Z has used the word bitch chronically. Can you not see the difference? Gwyneth apologized. Jay-Z seems utterly unapologetic. We have to agree to disagree about the slur. I don’t see it the way you do, but I would never tell you how you should see it.

              2. Beyonce is allowing his sexism TOWARDS HER. Unless you think she has no power in her marriage to get her husband not to call her a bitch.

              3. You attacked me personally by implying that I am a hipster who condones racial slurs, and a white one at that, so of course, disregard what I say. Those are the identity boxes, when you actually know nothing about me.

              4. Having something to say about something =/= a public statement. I imagine she and her husband converse, and as a result, you might see a difference in him, if she is a feminist and interested in gender equality. I do not expect nor have I stated that she needed to hold a press conference.

              5.What difference does it make if he is being ironic? Is it OK to call women, including your wife, bitches if you claim you are being ironic? Isn’t that what hipsters do? Don’t you hate that as much as I do?

              6. The word is extreme? That is ridiculous. I’m sorry, but that sort of thing undermines feminism. Are her songs feminist? I would have to say, eh. Not wildly so. But that’s just my opinion. I am not a fan of hers nor am I a big detractor, but this post did tick me off about her.

              7. I feel that my criticisms are valid. I am thinking about unfair criticisms, such as Beyonce’s of feminism.

    • oldbobbydraper

      i hate beyonce as much as anyone ever has or will, but all of these comments telling her/others what she can/can’t should/shouldn’t say, think or feel because she’s a woman and therefore she has a responsibility to act in X way, are a primary reason why a lot people don’t want to join the feminism club.

      • NoGovernmentName

        What about her characterizing feminists as being extreme? She took the offensive on that one. She can say she’s not a feminist without the negative (misleading, false) comments about feminists.

        • twocee

          “she can say she’s not a feminist without the negative comments…”

          So, if she thinks feminists are extreme she’s not allowed to express that, because she’s a famous woman?

          • NoGovernmentName

            She is displaying a faulty understanding of what feminism is if she qualifies it by saying “But I’m happily married and I love my husband.” So? What does that have to do with being a feminist? Nothing. She can express whatever she wants, and she can take her lumps for it when it’s bullshitty. That’s the price of fame, baby. Like she cares what we say here on this blog… all the way to the bank.

            • librarygrrl64

              Agreed. I don’t think she fully understands what feminism is.

        • oldbobbydraper

          telling other women what they can/can’t/should/shouldn’t say or do because they’re women IS extreme. clawing the president’s eyeballs out because he dared to compliment his close friend, which was actually a JOKE about how unattractive all of the other ag’s (i.e. old men) are, IS extreme. the hypocrisy of feminists (yes, even and especially around here) IS extreme. i’m sorry you all live with funhouse mirrors and can’t see the reality of feminism’s extremism, but the rest of us are not blind and we actually can see it.

          • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

            If you don’t quickly learn how to disagree with people without being an obnoxious asshole about it, you’re going to be banned from this comments section.

    • pookiesmom

      It’s things like this that make it impossible for me to fully understand the Zooey hate. I can see how she could maybe grate since she has such a strong persona, but I fucking love her. Rock on, Zooey, with your giant bows and your black tights. Rock on.

      • Sally Brownson

        Honestly, it’s not really because of who she really is that people hate her. It’s because she is the most visible one who really takes advantage of our culture’s weird obsession with infantilizing women. I admit, I don’t like her because I kind of work that angle in my relationships, and she’s much, much better at it than I am, but other people probably don’t like it because infantilizing women might not be all that helpful for getting us taken seriously, and they might see her work as working against us.

        • pookiesmom

          WARNING! Rant ahead:

          I do find the tendency to infantilize women problematic, but attacking a strong, successful woman who seems to be living out her truth in the extremely harsh public eye seems a really horrible way to critique the system.

          I have the same issue with attacking any number of other famous women for not living up to what is deemed “appropriate” for a strong woman–a narrow and ever-changing balance of talent, grace, femininity (but not too much! otherwise, too twee!), maturity (but she should still look like someone I want to have cocktails with after work!), drive (but not too much! otherwise, DESPERATE, cough cough Anne Hathaway cough cough). Yes, for a celebrity to earn my admiration, she is going to have to do more than prance around in virginal dresses and sing about heartbreak (looking at you, T Swift), but the vitriol against these women seems so far out of proportion to the “crime” (as leveled against them by the public and by many commenters here) that I can’t help but shudder.

          And as far as I can tell, the “crime” of famous women (yes, WOMEN. men don’t undergo anywhere near this level of scrutiny) is no more or less than their refusal/inability to mold themselves into exactly what we want them to be at any given moment, or their inability to do so seamlessly enough that we are not even aware of their artifice.

          I don’t know, maybe I just need to stop reading this blog. I love the fashion, but the vitriol in the comments can be upsetting.

          • Sally Brownson

            No, I totally agree with you there. And I agree, the level of vitriol against her is disproportionate because there’s the idea that women always have to live up to an extremely ill-defined “independent” ideal. I just get why people don’t like her because as you say, she grates.

    • ankali

      The only legitimate reason I’ve ever heard to reject the “feminist” label is that feminism as a movement has historically been way less inclusive than it should have been of people of color and the queer community. There are some who deliberately don’t identify as feminists because they feel that the movement continues to marginalize them while hypocritically espousing egalitarian values. I can’t really argue with that reasoning, even as I embrace the feminist label myself.

      Beyonce’s reason, OTOH, is just moronic.

      • librarygrrl64

        Your comment is EVERYTHING. I identify as a feminist, but, yes, I do think that second-wave feminism had issues embracing POC and LGBTQ. Yet her answer shows little knowledge of what feminism is.

        • ankali

          3rd wave has its issues, too. We white middle class feminists really can get our heads lodged up our asses when it comes to acknowledging our own privilege.

    • MissusBee

      Cynically I’m thinking a lot of these celebrities are told to stay away from the ‘F’ word so they don’t alienate he fans who could care less about the music but will happily buy a calendar of them in their empowered underwear or whatever. That and certain lucrative foreign markets. Which is a shame as I’m sure a track called, “Saudi Ladies: (If you like it you should maybe let it drive, vote and travel without your written permission)” would be massive.

      • formerlyAnon

        “in their empowered underwear”

        You’ve summed a lot of my feelings up. Great phrase.

    • http://twitter.com/miamoreno_ Mia

      It’s why our movement has been hindered. I wish a strong lady star would just OWN the word “feminist” so we can re-group and re-establish our common goal of equality in the world! Ladies like Beyonce are in a prime position to do it. *sigh*

    • Aurumgirl

      I think “Fuck Yeah” is the only acceptable answer to the “Are you a feminist?” question. If you’re going to mince words and bow and scrape and say things like “I’m happily married. I love my husband” as a qualifying response, at least acknowledge your debt and thank the feminists who made your success possible.

      • formerlyAnon

        People have assigned so many different meanings to the term “feminist” that I think the impulse to define what one means when using it for publication is probably overwhelming.

        I can’t say anymore than that without descending into an uncontrollable rant.

    • Super_Red

      As someone who is well-educated on the feminist movement in general, I completely understand and applaud her hesitation to claim the label. I hate it, personally. It’s become a bastardization of what it used to be. I’m a peopleist. Yay equal rights.

      • sekushinonyanko

        If by “bastardization of what it used to be” you mean “not about liberating women from the oppression of patriarchy” then sure, I follow. If not, I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

    • SassieCassy

      i find it very interesting that a post about beyonce, her clothes, her work and her magazine cover is dominated by critiques on her, her supposed low talent level, her husband/marriage, and how much people hate her.

      the same thing happened on the superbowl post.

      • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

        The vast majority of responses have to do with her clothes and what she said in the interview, which makes it no different from any other celebrity editorial post.

    • formerlyAnon

      Good job, team. I’d wear that waffle weave top with jeans, and look square and robot-like just like the model. Only fatter.

      “We also wish we could fly, so there’s that.”

      Thanks for today’s first real laugh, fellas.

    • http://twitter.com/PhDKnitter marlie

      Yep, Bey looks better in both looks than the models do.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Cleary/1201575213 Patrick Cleary

      Both those outfits are hideous, and a multi-millionaire famous woman who hedges on the “feminist” term is just sad.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Julie-Chase/731391326 Julie Chase

      That post in the Chanel should not work, and yet with her it does. SUCK IT B. You and your amazing legs.

      And that skirt is so beautiful.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darva.sutra Darva Sutra

      She does look amazing in the Jonathan Saunders! But please Dear Baby Jesus do NOT bring back bare midriffs! The Chanel is looking “80′s mauve” on her, though, like the way the color photographed on the runway much better.

      Could care less about her “worldview”. Whatevs! Everything she says/does is carefully crafted and packaged for what she believes is maximum appeal to her fan base.

    • JauntyJohn

      Is it a thing with her, not to use strong lip color?

    • Mistie Holler

      I’m seeing that Jonathan Saunders skirt everywhere and I LOVE it.

    • http://twitter.com/xfrannyglassx Lauren Barry

      She looks like she has terrible period cramps in that second photo

    • ccm800

      The cover sucks.

    • Sally Brownson

      She looks great, even with the photoshop, though like others, I’m not so fond of what they did to her thighs.

      In terms of her comments on feminism… what she said is kind of unfortunate, but I’m inclined to cut her a break. When I was in high school, I probably would’ve said something similar, because I wasn’t all that exposed to exactly what kind of shit women go through in reality. I’ve gotten that kind of experience and knowledge in college. But Beyonce has not only never been to college, she has been famous and probably very well-insulated from the real world since she was 16. I’m not surprised that her ideas of what it means to be feminist are not particularly advanced.

    • librarygrrl64

      “Just once, we’d love to hear a celebrity, male or female, answer the question with ‘FUCK YEAH, I’m a feminist. Next?’ No hedging, no rushing in to assure people that they don’t hate men; just a simple, declarative, ‘Yes, I am.’”

      I am loving on you both SO HARD for this!!!!!! YES!!!!!

    • Callie

      So. Sick. Of. This. Woman. And can she please get a GED.

    • http://twitter.com/jalae Janey

      The second photo of Beyonce looks like she has cramps.

    • http://marshmallowjane.com/ marshmallowjane

      Beyonce’s posture on the cover is slightly contorted so that she can hide her stomach. She looks weird, the way she’s standing, with her arms up and her butt out. This is similar to Angelina Jolie’s contorted posture to get her leg to stick out of the slit in her dress. Most women know both of these tricks.

    • understateddiva

      “I’m a feminist, yeah. If you think that’s a good thing. If not, here’s some caveats. I mean, whatever you want is what I want to portray, obviously. What is it you like, public? And what are you willing to pay for me to act like that?” Sorrry to be harsh – she is a very talented and beautiful person, but I wish so much that those things did not neccessarily translate to “role model”.

    • sekushinonyanko

      Well Zooey Deschanel did answer that question “fuck yeah, I’m a feminist.” Literally. So that’s one ladystar.