Cover Girl: Rihanna for ELLE UK Magazine

Posted on March 04, 2013

Miss Ri is feeling mod and blue on the cover of Elle UK.

Rihanna covers the April 2013 issue of ELLE UK magazine in a River Island skirt and Louis Vuitton top photographed by Mariano Vivanco and styled by Anne-Marie Curtis.

She also says things. Silly, celebrity things:

On her style: “High-street shops pay more attention to the kids on the street than to the runways, so in a way I like to mix both. I love a high-end bag or jacket with a simple dress. I just thought, I’m going to make something for everybody – every personality, every body type.”

On her relationship with Chris: “Now that we’re adults we can do this right. We got a fresh start and I’m thankful for that. Right now that’s just what we want, a great friendship that’s unbreakable.”

On Instagram: “Well I Instagram everything about my life, whether it’s smoking pot, in a strip club, reading a Bible verse – how crazy, I know! – or hanging out with my best friend, who happens to be Chris. Everybody wanted to know what was happening in my life. Is she a drug addict? No. Is she an alcoholic? No. Is she a victim? No. That’s when I got the gun [tattoo]. It was a symbol of strength. I’ll never be a victim. That’s why I’m posting pictures of myself smoking pot, to tell the truth about myself. I’ve got so much to think about, why bring all this extra s*** by being dishonest?”

Oh, HONEY.

We continue to recuse ourselves from the Chris Brown conversation, but “I’m posting pictures of myself smoking pot to show my STRENGTH” may just have stripped “As a mother, entertainer, and person…” of its crown for Most Self-Servingly Pretentious Celebrity Statement.

But hey, she wears clothes well and works a lens. Let’s focus on that. Oh, who are we kidding? Let’s all discuss her life and how we disapprove of it. We’ll start the coffee.

 

Louis Vuitton Spring 2013 Collection/Models: Stina Rapp Wastenson and Hollie-May Saker

Prada Spring 2013 Collection/Model: Romy Schonberger

 

 

[Photo Credit: Mariano Vivanco for ELLE UK, style.com]

    • Kate4queen

      I just… speechless…
      she looks great on the cover though.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lucía-Gavello/1253586868 Lucía Gavello

        Yep… let’s just focus on how striking she looks when she’s not dressed like a streetwalker. That makeup is flawless, no?

    • charlotte

      I’m officially tired of that Louis Vuitton collection. I’ll never be tired of pretentious celebrity quotes though. That Instagram part made my day.

      • kimmeister

        I’m hoping someone’s going to try a pair of checkboard print shoes!

        • Kristin McNamara

          Ummmm… Have you never seen a pair of Vans?

          • kimmeister

            I was referring to the ones from the LV collection.

      • JasmineAM

        I LOVE the collection, but it is being overused.

      • MRC210

         My first thought exactly.  Those LV checkerboards are certainly getting a workout.  It  does look good on her, though.

      • Little_Olive

        Ditto with the Prada collection. Actually can’t be tired of that because I plain hated it. That thing she is wearing is hideous both on her and on the runway. 

    • A. W.

      I’ve grown to find her completely insufferable in so many ways. Despite this, I’ll never stop hoping she leaves Chris before he abuses her again.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=610791985 Aniela Marie Perry

        She has become so insufferable, I couldn’t care less about her relationship with her equally (maybe even more so) insufferable “best friend”. I just hope they don’t have children at this point. 

        • Alyssa

          I used to really like her (like years ago), but I too find her insufferable. Children – oh please no! That thought hadn’t even came to me yet.

      • MK03

        A) She won’t.

        B) He’s already abusing her. If not physically, then emotionally. A zebra doesn’t change its stripes.

    • NC_Meg

      The first cover is great, the second not so much. I don’t like that dress or skirt/top or whatever the hell that is.

      As for the quotes, they go downhill so fast. Mixing high fashion and high street? Not revolutionary but ok. Smoking pot to show how strong you are? Are you high right now? Because that makes no sense.

    • aeb1986

      I enjoy her music but I’m so over anything else she does or has to say about herself.

      However, she’s rocking that first cover. Not crazy about the Prada on her

    • Pants_are_a_must

      I’m tired of her. I’m tired of her stupidity. I’m tired of her bad life choices. I’m tired of her inability to stay with the same hair for more than a week. Just. No.

      Also, that is a Prada sofa throw. Don’t act like it isn’t.

      • Kenisha Hill Phillips

        I’ll disagree regarding the hair. It’s nice to see hair treated as an accessory. And she wears many of the styles well, which shows versatility.

    • MilaXX

      She can werq a look, I’ll give her that.

    • bitchybitchybitchy

      “That’s why I’m posting pictures of myself smoking pot, to tell the truth about myself. ”
      Oh, whatever, honey.  As long as Rihanna can give good face and look good in clothes, she’ll be gracing the pages and covers of the fashion mags.

      • H2olovngrl

        Is this medical marijuana? Because, am I wrong thinking it is still illegal to smoke pot and post pictures of yourself doing it, or does the law not pertain to her?

        • snarkykitten

           what if she smokes it in a state where it is legal?

          • H2olovngrl

            So….you think she is partying down in Washington state or Colorado? My guess is more like LA or New York, but I am too lazy to look it up so maybe someone else has time to do the grunt work. I would rather just engage in the business of being judgemental.

            • snarkykitten

               haha I was just asking purely to find out if it is legal to post pics if you’re in a pot-legal state.

              honestly I think the PD in whatever state she’s hanging out in has/should have better things to do than to bust her ass. I mean, we all know how it goes when celebs are busted anyway.

            • H2olovngrl

              Slap on the hand, I am sure.

            • Sara LaBatt

              Technically it’s still illegal, according to the federal government, in all 50 states (and DC).  Some states have voted to legalize it, but that doesn’t protect people there from federal enforcement.  

        • Allyson Wells

          I think, technically, it is illegal to post pictures smoking pot in states where it isn’t legal. However, someone would have to take her to court and prove where the picture was taken, what she was actually smoking, etc. That isn’t likely to happen with anyone, let alone someone like Rihanna.  Eventually it will be legal everywhere and people can stop making such a big deal out of it.

          • H2olovngrl

            I think the authorities would also have to want to make an example of her for that to happen. That being said, i still think it is a boneheaded move and that she is courting danger just by doing that.

        • Little_Olive

          Well, I think the point of it being legal is a minor one (in perspective). I find it incredibly irresponsible of her (an the magazine) to “gamourize” pot, identifying it with strength (!), sending the message that it is something that goes with being creative/ successful/ confident / in a good place. 

          How shallow and self-absorbed of her.   

          • http://twitter.com/DarthJaeda Jaeda Laurez

            I dunno. Maybe it’s because I’m in Canada, but the list of professional, hardworking, career-driven people i know who smoke is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY longer than the list of people I know who don’t (me being one of the few). I don’t assume that because you smoke (in some cases, every day) that you are in a “bad” place. 

            • Little_Olive

              Of course not; but that does not mean you should glorify pot. There is too much misinformation on the subject as it is.  

            • H2olovngrl

              I have several Canadian friends, and my friends there do like their Marijuana. That is true. I think the point isn’t that she is in a bad place because of smoking pot, it is that regardless of whether she can handle it or not, it is for the most part still illegal in the US. Glorifying your use of it is essentially saying the law doesn’t apply to you. Would she post pictures of herself stealing? It is just silly adolescent move on her part. It doesn’t show empowerment to me. There are some things you don’t need to share with the world.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZLU6YVO4BRTELTTH3GRAAMWZQ Dot

          People post photos of themselves smoking pot all the time. I have a cousin (granted, she is an idiot) who does this all the time. It’s really not a smart move.

    • Janet B

      Coffee? I’ll need a stiff drink before we talk about her life!

    • Annabelle Archer

      Will someone please explain the actual meaning of empowerment to this delusional mess?

      • hypeman414

        Actually, I do believe that it is empowering to live your life on your terms.  Share what you want, how you want.  Also, it must be extremely freeing, knowing that some tabloid or unknown source can’t take your actions out of context, because you are open about them.

        • Little_Olive

          Oh yes, freedom as doing whatever strikes the mood, that is mature (of her, I don’t know about you). 

          • H2olovngrl

            Right now, I feel like flying to Hawaii alone. Except my small children would be pissed.

    • ZootZoot

      It’s really nobody’s business what Rihanna does with her life. I don’t agree with her wording or some of her choices but they are her choices to make and people need to stop telling her what to do. She’s not harming anyone. The things I find more harmful are the hateful comments calling her an idiot or saying she basically deserves violence (not on here, in general) because she got back with Chris. He’s definitely a scumbag but domestic violence is a complicated thing, it’s not easy for people to leave or to see the abuser for what they really are.

      Who doesn’t post stupid stuff on instagram anyway? It seems like all Rihanna is saying is she’s trying to share aspects of her life on her terms instead of letting the media/fans/the public etc paint her as a victim when she doesn’t see herself that way. There’s nothing wrong with that.
      Whew!
      Rant over.
      Anyway, she looks stunning here, I love that pixie haircut, I hope she goes back to it, it’s absolutely gorgeous.

      • http://profiles.google.com/singingraisin ali meowmeow

        Just saying, but Instagram tells the truth about your life in about the same way that reality tv depicts actual reality.

        • ZootZoot

          Fine. Let’s edit it to say “as much about her life as she can on instagram and as globally famous popstar”

      • PaulaBerman

        I hate to be all “think about the children!” here, but I remember when Chris Brown beat her up, listening to my female students talking about it. Several of the girls defended him, saying Rihanna was a bitch who deserved it. I was appalled and tried to tell them that under no circumstances was what Brown did OK. When she goes back with him, she turns all those messages into lies. Like it or not, she is an example, and a shitty one at that.

        • Becca Cleary

          So she should alter her life choices for some brats she doesn’t know? I’m prettttty sure that’s where parenting comes in…

          • PaulaBerman

            She should alter her life choices because they are terribly stupid. I thought that was obvious, but I guess not.

            • brokephilosopher

              This kind of comment makes me uncomfortable.  It’s easy for us to say “it’s stupid to go back to someone who abused you” but that kind of stuff happens all the time.  It does.  And pointing her out as an idiot and insulting her is not going to help women who struggle with this who aren’t celebrities–it reminds them that they’re also “stupid,” etc.  I know she’s a rich, gorgeous celebrity but I still can’t help but just feel sorry for her.  Some emotionally broken part of her is pulling her back into her abuser’s orbit, and the rest of the world responds by rolling their eyes and insulting her.

            • PaulaBerman

              Are we doing this again? Wasn’t there a big blowout on Oscar night about people sanctimoniously wagging their fingers about other people’s comments on here? I would say I’m sorry it makes you uncomfortable, but I’m not. I am not insulting her. I am saying that her choices are terribly stupid. I stand 100% behind that statement. I also pity her, but I really despise the message she is disseminating far and wide that you can run into the arms of your abuser, publicly and vocally, while smoking a blunt and talking about wanting to have babies soon. Those are all terribly stupid choices. If you don’t like my comments, you are utterly free not to read them. But you won’t shame me into not making them.

            • brokephilosopher

              wow, that was an overreaction.  I’m not shaming you–I literally said that the comment made me uncomfortable.  People are more than welcome to make comments that make me uncomfortable.  I’m not asking for it to be deleted.  I don’t think she’s disseminating any message about abuse (ignoring the other stuff she said, just focusing on that).  It just pains me to think that Rhianna is constantly being asked to justify her relationship with Chris Brown, while Chris Brown seems to get off scot-free.  I just don’t see the same vitriol heaped onto him.  She’s not a role model.  She’s just not.  Again, this is a thing that happens to non-famous women as well–returning to their abusers time and again.  I wish that people would look at this as a reason to rethink their notions about abuse, rather than as a reason to dismiss and insult an abuse victim.  Not trying to fight here but I’d like to be able to put out my opinion without being insulted and told I’m trying to “shame” people.

            • PaulaBerman

              There are people commenting here who actually called her stupid, likened her to a streetwalker, and called her a slut. I merely said I thought her choices were terribly stupid. It pains you that she’s being asked to justify being with someone who abused her? It doesn’t pain me in the slightest. It’s what happens when you are famous and you put your business on the street in such a flagrant manner. The price of fame and all. She can always quit and return to civilian life, no? And you continue to accuse me of insulting her, when I have done nothing of the kind. She IS a role model, like it or not. And I do feel like you are trying to shame me for my comment, which is mild by comparison to others on this thread, so I hope you are telling everyone else how uncomfortable their much more inflammatory comments are as well.  ETA: As much as you think I’m overreacting, I think you are overreacting. If criticism of Rihanna bothers you so much, then you might want to rethink your notions of what a thread where we are invited to brew coffee and discuss Rihanna might be like.

            • ZootZoot

              Obviously you don’t realise that it takes at least seven attempts on average for an abuse victim to truly leave their partner.
              Or how complex abusive relationships are.
              Or that Chris Brown also has a lot of young fans and is sending a really horrible fucking message to them by his actions and really if anyone needs to be changing it’s him.
              Or that Rihanna does not owe anyone anything certainly not her personal life and decisions.
              Or that just because young people listen to Rihanna that she is responsible for them.
              Rihanna’s life is Rihanna’s life, if you’re not opening up discussions with the children you teach and trying to get them to learn more about domestic violence and how complicated it is, the cycle of abuse (google it since you clearly need a refresher) etc then that’s on YOU, the school and those kids parents.
              It is not up to Rihanna to be the poster girl for domestic violence just because she happened to have to go through an incredibly traumatic and devastating incident in the public eye.
              Is Britney Spears now supposed to be a mental health advocate just because she happens to have mental health problems?

              Stop shaming Rihanna for not being the way you want and let her live her life geez.
              Oh and stop acting so defensive when you’re rightfully called out on your judgemental and gross attitude.
              Ugh I come here for fashion and I love lurking this website but I hate the way people talk about things like this.

            • PaulaBerman

              If this were a thread about Chris Brown, you can believe I’d have plenty to say about him. And really, Rihanna is not answerable for her choices, but it’s on ME if my students get the wrong idea about partner abuse from her behavior? WOW. Really. This is what I get for saying that I think a) Rihanna has made stupid choices, and b) I think being famous puts your life in the public’s eye, and yes, people are going to judge you. WOW. Maybe take a pill and lay down? Because you are seriously overreacting.

            • PaulaBerman

              I’d love to know exactly what my “gross attitude” is. And why you get to call me gross but HEAVEN FORFEND anyone say a damn word about Rihanna. I was right when I said this to a friend of mine: the Rihanna Stans are the looniest.

            • http://twitter.com/graceishuman Grace

              Maybe the answer is to educate your students about partner abuse – including the fact that many people go back – rather than just resting on a simple “she sends the wrong message.” Teaching your students isn’t her job.

            • PaulaBerman

               Well, frankly, you have no idea what the conversation with my students was like. There is an assumption that, because I am expressing my opinions of her behavior in one manner here, that I am expressing them in the same manner to my students. That is an incorrect assumption. Believe that I did not allow her to be deemed responsible for Chris Brown’s actions, and defended her against accusations of deserving it.

              Also, I think this whole “abuse victims go back seven times” thing is not as relevant to Rihanna’s situation as you all seem to think. Abuse victims who go back multiple times are usually women who have children with their abuser, and/or are financial dependent on him. They often lack familial, social support, and feel (sadly, sometimes correctly) that they have no other choice. Rihanna may be suffering from similar psychological issues, but the financial, social, and familial ones are absent. Celebrities can make terrible choices too, but their plight is not the same as the plight of a low SES woman with three kids in an abuse situation, and it’s kind of ridiculous to equate her with them, and then scold me for not making the same equation.

            • H2olovngrl

              For some reason, I couldn’t reply to your lower post, but I agree wholeheartedly with what you said about the social and economic reasons abused spouses stay with their abusers. Rihanna most assuredly does not suffer from many of the same problems as the typical abused spouse. AT ALL. Starting with the fact that she isn’t even married to him.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              Stop telling other people what to think and what to post. We invited people to offer their opinions. If you’d like a site where people only say nice things about your favorite celebrities, start your own. Then you’ll be free to tell people what they’re allowed to say.

            • ZootZoot

              I think that’s a bit of a misinterpretation of what I’m actually saying. I didn’t say I’d only like a site where people are nice, I like that people are snarky on here but I don’t see why I’m being called out for offering my own opinion.
              An opinion that other people on here share and have expressed (but admittedly in more diplomatic ways than I did). I’m not even particularly a fan of Rihanna’s, I like a couple of her songs and her outfits sure but I’m not exactly tattooing her name across my heart.
              What I have a problem with is people who say really offensive things about survivors of domestic violence and I’m very passionate about that which is why I commented.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              “I think that’s a bit of a misinterpretation of what I’m actually saying. I didn’t say I’d only like a site where people are nice, I like that people are snarky on here but I don’t see why I’m being called out for offering my own opinion. ”

              This:

              “Stop shaming Rihanna for not being the way you want and let her live her life geez.
              Oh and stop acting so defensive when you’re rightfully called out on your judgemental and gross attitude.
              Ugh I come here for fashion and I love lurking this website but I hate the way people talk about things like this.”

              Is not merely you offering your own opinion. It’s you telling other people what their opinions should be and how they should express them. There is a huge difference and it’s why you got “singled out” over other people who managed to make similar arguments without lecturing others as to how to think.

            • ZootZoot

              That comment was in response to someone who replied to me, it was part of a debate/argument. I’m not going to be sorry for arguing that someone needs to stop using certain language if they reply to me in a way that I feel is disrespectful of a certain issue.

              “I hate the way people talk about things”
              I was referring to ‘domestic violence’ because there actually is a wrong and a right way to talk about it (as any person working with DV will tell you) just as there’s a right way and a wrong way to talk about many other controversial serious business topics e.g. sexism as I’m sure you already know.

              Anyway, I’ve learned my lesson and I think that I should just stick to lurking in future.

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZLU6YVO4BRTELTTH3GRAAMWZQ Dot

              You complain about Chris Brown sending a horrible message to his young fans, but then say Rihanna doesn’t owe anyone any explanation for her life decisions and isn’t responsible for her young fans. I don’t think you can have that both ways.

            • Airkisses

               Maybe it’s worth differentiating between stupid choices and being a stupid person. A choice is a reaction to a given situation at a certain point in time. Anybody is capable of making a stupid choice, without necessarily being a stupid person.

              So yes, I think her choices are stupid, in the sense that I think she’s making a mistake and that there are better courses of action out there. But I also agree that insulting her and making personal attacks are unhelpful and out of line.

            • H2olovngrl

              Do we actually know whether she really is stupid? Because there are a lot of stupid people out there and she could be one of them. Or perhaps she is a genius. Is she in Mensa with Geena Davis? Does she have a degree? Did she get good grades in high school? What are her SAT scores? Somebody find these things out and get back to us so we can determine whether she is stupid or her choices are just stupid.

            • PaulaBerman

              Which is funny, because I specifically said that her choices were stupid and not that she was stupid. Yet all the people who did flat out say she was stupid skated by with nary a finger wag… I also find it hard to fathom how we can be told not to make judgements and negative comments about celebrities. If you find comments about your life horrendously intolerable, you can always choose to retire from public life.

          • Mistie Holler

            I’m tired of hearing that Rihanna never claimed to be a role model and she doesn’t have to care what her fans think or how she impacts them. When you make music and present an image in such a way that you are directly targetting teenagers – because you know that they’re the market who will idolise you and will can make you a huge pop star – you can’t then shrug your shoulders and say ‘Well, I have no real influence on them and no responsibilities towards them’. It’s not like she’s Leonard Cohen or Kings of Leon or something - she’s just churning out pop for teenagers.

            I agree that it’s ultimately the parents’ responsibility. But parents can’t protect their kids from every bad aspect of the ubiquitous pop culture that fights for their kids’ attention. It’s not asking too much that the pop stars who seek to influence their kids should think a bit about the message they send out.

        • http://twitter.com/graceishuman Grace

          Given that it often takes survivors of intimate partner violence several attempts to leave for good, the message sent by shaming Rihanna for getting back together with Chris Brown is that many if not most victims in similar situations are “not OK.” Like ZootZoot said, DV is an incredibly complicated thing. The constant slamming of Rihanna, predictions of her death, calling her stupid, etc., sends a message to survivors who are far less privileged and visible than she is (in certain ways) that any support they might get as victims of DV is conditional on whether people feel their decisions are “smart.” That’s messed up.

          • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

            So why are Rihanna’s detractors supposed to worry about how their words affect victims of domestic violence but Rihanna herself is supposed to be held completely free from blame and judgment? You can’t argue that she’s not a role model and not responsible for how her actions are taken and then argue that people who criticize her are “sending a message” to victims of abuse.

            For the record, I don’t think she should be held up as a role model (then again, I don’t think any celebrity should), but I also think attempts to shut up her detractors are equally if nor more misguided.

            • FrayedMachine

              Rihanna isn’t a role model, she just simply isn’t. People who place a lot of blame on her for her situation and shame her for her decision because she’s sending out a bad message to a lot of young girls are A.) Displacing responsibility and disregarding the fact that there are positive female role models everywhere, and youth only tend to gravitate towards negative examples if there’s a strong lack of positive examples that exist around them, and B.) In a lot of ways side stepping that actual discussion that needs to occur when it comes to her situation.

              Domestic Abuse is such a weird thing in this country. It’s weird because we, more often than not, blame the victim. It’s HER/HIS fault for staying. HE/SHE is stupid for staying. THEY are just signing their death wish. It’s THEIR fault. THEY are an idiot if they can’t understand how bad this is. The original example for this situation presented is a great example of that. Why would a group of teenage girls think it’s totally okay and justifiable for Brown to beat her? To blame Rihanna in this?

              What she is is a Prime example of how we, as a culture, handle and deal with domestic abuse and violence. Not to make her a poster child for it, because there really shouldn’t be a poster child for situations like this, but what she does do is certainly bring to the forefront the inherent problem with our connections and methods of dealing with it. There’s an inherent lack of sympathy that seems to come about when it comes to discussions like this. We expect the victim to realize the error in the situation rather than make the one who’s acting violently and abusive to realize that what they are doing is inherently wrong. Because at the end of the day, the victim may leave, and the aggressor might just find someone else to abuse and to treat like shit and they may not be so lucky in terms of receiving an opportunity to walk away. 

              This isn’t to say that I think anyone here is letting Brown off the hook, but it is to say that the primary focus on Rihanna in this is incredibly unsettling and disconcerting as a whole since it tends to be the method of dealing with this across the board.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              I think it’s extremely wrong-headed to take this person discussing her abusive relationship triumphantly on the covers of major magazines and hold her up as a “Prime example of how we, as a culture … deal with domestic abuse.” It’s as wrong-headed as holding her up as a role model. She’s a pop star making very bad decisions about her private life and then discussing them openly in the press. While I would think it wrong to shame her for her actions, it’s even MORE wrong to shush people up for pointing out that her actions are stupid and harmful and make a bad template to model one’s own life on.

              It would be wonderful if young people only looked to positive imagery for their role models, but it’s about as likely to happen as a unicorn birth. That’s the reality of it. I see no point in denying it. People shouldn’t look up to celebrities, but they do. That doesn’t necessarily mean Rihanna is required to live her life according to those expectations but again, I don’t see how it does any good to pretend that it’s otherwise. “She just simply isn’t” doesn’t become true because we would like it to be.

            • FrayedMachine

              It’s not as if the discussion of her status in the relationship just started with this magazine cover. It’s been occurring since the moment it was publicly released that she went back to him. The girl certainly has a hint of Narcissism, like every other celebrity out there, but the other reality is that yeah, she knows full well that people are discussing her decision, and whether or not it’s “right” or “wrong, she stands by it, so she’s going to make that clear. 

              Saying that her situation is a prime example of how we as a culture handle domestic abuse is. true. People are getting enraged because she has the audacity to say she stands by the decision, regardless of what other people think, and the bravado of standing by something that is objectively so bad for her makes people incredibly uncomfortable, and rather then discussing WHY it makes people uncomfortable, they label her an idiot. Believe it or not, she’s not the first woman who’s stood by her abusive man so proudly. Will she be the last? Unfortunately no. Is the solution to call them idiots? No. The solution is to help educate people on why this isn’t healthy, and not play the ultimate Judge in these situations. It’s terrible that women, and men, all over get stuck in these situations and it’s something that many people will -never- understand, especially understand why someone could go back with such a strong conviction. But welcome to young love, welcome to infatuation. Welcome to the land of regret. There are many of us who have made unhealthy decisions in our youth, myself included. Should be we labeled idiots for it? No. Should we be labeled as idiots at the time? No. Because a part of growing up is making mistakes. it’s just unfortunate that mistakes also include staying with your abuser.

              The reality of the youth of today is that they’re going to look up to the role model who’s most powerfully presented in their lives. If (and I know this will make me sound terribly old even if I’m only in my mid twenties) the T.V. is constantly on, they’re constantly peeled to their computers and phones, and there’s no adult making a genuine attempt at trying to be a positive role model in their life, then yeah, they’re going to fall into whichever what way they choose and see the most appealing and the problem is THAT. The lack of positive adult influence in their lives. Not everyone can or should be a role model, no, but parents do play a crucial role in how their kids grow up and the paths they go down. There’s a reason why, even though my family grew up in a partially shady area, very close to the party of the city that had gun violence and gang shootings happening constantly, that my brothers didn’t fall into any of that and grew up to be well established men. It’s the reason why many people every where and every day don’t fall into poor situations like this – because they likely had someone positive to turn to who influenced their lives in a good way, who helped educate them, who, in some way, helped deter the draw to these negative influences.

              But at the end of the day, it’s still incredibly dismissive and a massive displacement to expect celebrities to play role models. They are still human beings, regardless of how much of a pedestal some people might place them on. They’re going to screw up, they’re going to screw up bad and that’s not something new or ground breaking to realize because the other reality is that they’re just as lost when it comes to life as we are, especially if they’re younger celebrities who are tossed into frame relatively early. There’s plenty who make it out okay but think of the many who don’t, and won’t, and never will. 

              Basically all I’m saying is that we all needed to be a bit more realistic on the kind of expectations we have on celebrities and how quick we are to cast blame and fault in situations like this. Not to bring about the small violin for them but the pressure of leading their own lives is probably hard enough, the pressure of everything they do being watched even more so, and the reality that what they decide to do can influence so many with little effort is probably unimaginable.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              I’m sorry, but I think holding up pop stars as exemplars of domestic abuse while at the same time admonishing people not to criticize her or express opinions on it is far more damaging than anyone calling her stupid.

              Just as it’s not groundbreaking for celebrites to screw up their personal lives, it’s no more groundbreaking (or shocking, or damaging) for the public to look on and say “Wow. They’re really fucking up.”

            • FrayedMachine

              I’m not diminishing. People who are calling the situation stupid and getting mad at those who don’t agree is diminishing.

              What I’m doing is presenting an argument and providing explanations for where I stand as a means of helping provoke a more positive discussion and a bit more thought in what it is that people are saying.

              You can call someone stupid for getting caught shoplifting because it’s petty, and over all irrelevant in the scheme of life.

              Calling someone stupid because they’re staying in an abusive relationship is quite reflective of a society that is fixated on blaming the victim rather than blaming the abuser and looking for ways of dealing with domestic abuse as it is.

            • PaulaBerman

              She should not be held up as a role model, but unfortunately, because she is beautiful, famous, and successful, kids do look up to her and want to emulate her. This is part of our celebrity culture that is really negative and hard to negotiate, as there are so many celebrities who exhibit bad judgment and bad behavior who kids just love. As a parent and a teacher, man, it’s just tough for me to figure out what to say to kids who ask me about her, especially in light of her very public reunion with Chris Brown.

            • http://twitter.com/graceishuman Grace

              Super late to this, but: because she’s an individual and the criticism of her is a collective, societal response. And because abuse isn’t just an individual problem, it’s a societal one. And because when you say these things, you’re not just talking to Rihanna – you’re talking to any survivor who’s ever gone back to an abuser (or not been able to leave). It’s absolutely possible to talk about the decisions she’s made *in context* without painting her as a “bad role model” for behaving in ways that most survivors of intimate partner violence behave (and under a huge spotlight at that).

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              I’m sorry, but that’s an awful lot of jumping through hoops in an attempt to have it both ways. If Rihanna is not “sending a message” to victims of domestic violence when she trumpets her choices on magazine covers, than neither are the people in comments sections who are saying Rihanna’s actions are idiotic.

              In other words, you’re saying that Rihanna is free to do or say whatever she wants when she speaks to audiences of millions and no one has a right to question her or apply her choices and statements to the real world, but anonymous individual commenters on the internet are responsible for how their words might affect victims of domestic abuse.

              That’s celebrity worship, whether you want to admit it or not.

          • Mistie Holler

            People predict Rihanna’s death because Chris Brown choked her to the point where she began to lose consciousness. If he’d held on a bit too long then she wouldn’t be here. So she’s walking on a knife edge by trusting this guy. It only makes sense that people would predict her death. I can understand why you’d object to calling her choices ‘stupid’ but would have thought that, having grown up in an abusive environment and having voluntarily gone back to Chris, she needs to be hear over and over again that what he did isn’t normal or understandable behavior and that going back to him is a life and death gamble. If she saw it that way – if she saw that she was making excuses for him and putting way too much trust in his supposed change of heart – then maybe she’d leave before it starts again.

        • FrayedMachine

          Can we all take a minute and step back and realize that first of all, celebrities are not where our children should be getting their example and impression of how to live their lives? The number of people who don’t realize how -they- can positively influence a younger person’s life needs to be noted and paid more attention to.

          Not only that but can we all take a step back and realize that this is an abusive relationship and the complex psychology behind that is absolutely painful and, luckily, something that so many of us will never comprehend? I feel bad for the girl. I don’t place the burden of being a role model on her because it’s clear that SHE doesn’t have any. The girl’s a lost Early Twenty-Something mess and it’s just unfortunate that it’s so public. 

          • PaulaBerman

             Of course it’s not where they should be getting their examples! We know this, but it denies the reality that they DO get their examples from famous people. It’s part of modern life, so while we can rail against it, it’s what happens. Then they say things to people like me, and I am in the dicey situation of having to educate them about this very volatile topic.

            Yes, it is absolutely painful. I feel bad for her. But I think some of the attacking on here has gone off the rails.

            • FrayedMachine

              It’s not a dicey situation. It’s our responsibility as being the more mature part of the population to educate the youngers that what they’re following is not, in reality, what they should be following. It’s like people who blame violence on T.V. for violence in youth when in reality all they need is someone to step between the two connectors and educate them on the difference between entertainment and reality. If you’re a Parent, a Teacher, a Preacher, or any kind of Leader in any Youth Oriented Program and you find being confronted with having to explain the facts of life to them uncomfortable then you probably shouldn’t do it. People need to learn to step up to the plate as opposed to wishing they could avoid it. There’s always going to be shittiness going on, and though we can’t protect them and shelter them, we can arm them with the education necessary to not make the same mistakes.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

               “There’s always going to be shittiness going on, and though we can’t
              protect them and shelter them, we can arm them with the education
              necessary to not make the same mistakes.”

              And isn’t that what people are doing when they point out that Rihanna is making a stupid mistake by returning to her abuser?

            • FrayedMachine

              No, people are blaming the victim by calling her an idiot and not actively making the effort to discuss the inherent problem in the situation, including the complex and unfortunate psychology that comes along with being involved in an abusive relationship. It’s easy to say “Walk away” if someone hits you but many people can’t and don’t, and it should be discussed why.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              “No, people are blaming the victim by calling her an idiot and not actively making the effort to discuss the inherent problem in the situation, including the complex and unfortunate psychology that comes along with being involved in an abusive relationship”

              It’s a comments section on a pop culture/fashion web site. You are expecting far too much.

            • FrayedMachine

              Mmmmm… This reminds me of a quote I came across a few days ago – Privilege means being able to police complaints.

              Not trying to make a jab at you guys either, because I do love your site and check this place out regularly. But exchanges in discussion have occurred and to say someone’s expecting too much when there are many people who are putting so much out there already is… quite dismissive. No conversation here is going to change the reality of what’s going on with her, no, but it doesn’t mean that open friendly discussions can’t happen regardless.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

              Hmmm. This reminds me of a quote I just made up – Having your own web site means you get to police the comments to your heart’s content.

              But here’s the thing. I’m not responding to people who are trying to make this conversation deeper and more interesting. I’m responding to people who are wagging their fingers at other people in the comments section for not making the comments they think should be made. If you want to have a deeper discussion about domestic abuse, give it a shot. But if you tell other people how they should and shouldn’t think about it, we’re going to point the futility of that out.

              And we always love it (and by that we mean roll our eyes at it) when we write hundreds of words in conversation with someone only to have them tell us we’re being dismissive.

              If we were being dismissive, we’d probably ignore you completely.

            • FrayedMachine

              I’m responding to people who are wagging their fingers at other people in the comments section for not making the comments they think should be made. 
              Then I am outright perplexed as to why you’re responding to me since I’m not trying to shut anyone up, I’m proposing a different side and providing arguments as to why what they’re stating can be perceived as problematic. I’m not calling anyone stupid, I’m not being condescending or belittling, nor am I stating outright that anyone is inherently wrong in their opinion. I’m just stating that there’s an issue with the mentalities being presented, and the hypocrisy that’s coming from the other side is getting kind of painful.

              You can be dismissive in many ways, and resorting to being passive aggressive and condescending without taking the time to many understand where the other is coming from is one of them.

              I’m going to simply bow out of this unless anyone else feels the need to really discuss this issue because I’m not here to start fires or fan flames. I’m just looking to actually talk about this.

            • PaulaBerman

               All this and career counseling too. This is really a full service blog! It’s not a dicey situation? Really? Have you had to have a conversation like that with a teenage girl, who is telling you Rihanna is a slutty bitch who deserves to be slapped? If not, then don’t tell me how dicey a conversation might be. I don’t love having conversations like that with children who are not my own, because I have no idea what they are being told at home, what they’ve seen, what their preconceptions are, while also trying to teach my mandated curriculum. It must be nice to be able to tell me that it’s my job to educate them with perfect correctness (according to you) about this, while also getting them to pass state tests, do their classwork, and get through their day. Right. Thank god you were here to set me straight.

            • FrayedMachine

              Yes, actually, I have. But I’m still standing by my original statement that if you want to avoid those situations all together then I don’t understand why you’d really outright decide to be a teacher unless it was a last stitch effort at a job. It’s unfortunate that the conversations need to occur but you should be prepared to deal with them.

            • PaulaBerman

              Clearly you are just spoiling for a fight, because you have decided to misinterpret my words willfully so that you can attack me (again, you can attack me, but god forbid anyone throw shade on RiRi). I am not going to defend my career choice to you. I can’t believe that you are telling me that, because I said I found conversations with 12 year old girls about partner abuse “dicey” I shouldn’t be a teacher, but that seems to be exactly what you are saying, so you’ll forgive me if I ignore your presumptuous, rude advice about my career choice, as you hide under a pseudonym. I will say that, if you don’t find them dicey, you probably haven’t actually had any conversations of that nature, despite your protestations to the contrary.

            • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

               ” I don’t understand why you’d really outright decide to be a teacher unless it was a last stitch effort at a job.”

              This is BEYOND obnoxious and will get you banned from here if you make a habit of it.

              Take a deep breath, step back, and realize that you are arguing that it’s wrong for people to have an opinion on a pop star’s private life while you are offering opinions on a total stranger’s suitability for her profession.

            • PaulaBerman

              Thank you. This is why you are my favorite bloggers on the planet.

            • formerlyAnon

               “It’s not a dicey situation.”

              It is if you are an educator. Teachers (especially of K-12) are both explicitly and implicitly expected to provide guidance in a lot of areas that some think “ought” to be the province, primarily, of the family. And sometimes they are held accountable, sometimes fairly and often grossly unfairly, for what a parent thinks of that guidance.

               But life happens, teachable moments happen. As you point out, responsible adults can’t feel good about themselves if they don’t speak up. Sometimes there are grossly unfair consequences.

            • PaulaBerman

              Exactly this. When you veer off the mandated curriculum into areas as personal and sensitive as partner abuse, you never know what the repercussions will be, not only for the person who you are conversing with, but for all the other ears in the room that are listening, whose situations you do not know. When a girl of 12 says Rihanna is a slut who deserves a slap, where do you think she heard that? It’s very painful to have these conversations. I do not relish them, but I have them and do my best. I shouldn’t offer my personal life here, especially under my real name. Might have to look into a pseudonym here.

    • ZootZoot

       Patronising much?

    • Anniebet

      The old saying “pretty is as pretty does” sure fits here. This is one beautiful, wealthy woman presenting herself to the world in a sad and blatant manner. She’s sending the most reprehensible messages to her young fans -”be like me, let your man beat up on you, defy the law, be a slut.” 

      I spit.

      • snarkykitten

         sleeping with one man is slutty?

        • Sobaika

          Seriously. If being with the wrong man (multiple men/women/football teams/whatever you’re into) is the definition of slut then 19-year old me must have been a doozy.

          • SassieCassy

            yooooooooo what were you doing at 19?

            • Sobaika

              Haha, no football teams! And I wasn’t living a fast life, but I was definitely with the wrong guy and pushing the speed limit. Does that put me into slut territory? I just find the word (and a great deal of the misogynistic pearl clutching discussion that comes up with Rihanna) inherently anti-woman.

              Now, back to the clothes! Please :)

        • H2olovngrl

          Hear hear! I completely agree. Women should have the same choices and sexual freedom as a man, without some ridiculous antiquated label put on them. I say if a man doesn’t like my “number” he can just keep walking. Live it up, girls! (Just remember safety first)

      • plzidgaf

        lol fuck off with that “be a slut” bullshit.

        • Kristin McNamara

          We don’t tell each other to “fuck off” on this site, plzidgaf. Cool down, or leave. (Or just keep those types of comments to yourself, please.)

          • urbanamish

            agreed , but we also don’t call women sluts and spit.  

            • snarkykitten

               True PUFs are classy and only deliver backhanded compliments ;)

            • Sobaika

              Sometimes a clever turn of phrase doesn’t quite cut it, you know? The language may not be to everyone’s taste, but I’m firmly in the corner of fuck off with that ‘be a slut’ bullshit. 

            • snarkykitten

              I’m on your side. what I meant that lowering oneself to insulting someone’s sex life is tacky as all get out. There’s a reason why I’m not a comedienne.

            • urbanamish

              i thought your comment was dead on (and funny.)

            • Anniebet

              Okay, since I’ve ruffled sensibilities with using the word slut as shorthand, I’ll retract the S word and be more specific and then perhaps we can close out this thread. 

              For me, the issue is that this woman has the attention of millions of young females including young teens, and preteens. Her Tweets are full of sexual sleaze and half naked pics of herself. I’m not even gonna mention the weed smoking – oops, I did.

              Anyway, what message does all this send to a 12 year old?  Do you want your little girl to emulate that successful singer who’s adored by her fans? Do you think young people actually don’t equate nudity and explicit talk from their idols as permission to act in a similar way?   

              I realize she’s not pretending to be a role model, and yes, it’s the parents’ responsibility to instill values in their children. That said, I personally despair that celebrities use their fame in this manner. Whew.

              BTW, love the second outfit. 

            • snarkykitten

              it’s not her job to be a good role model.

            • H2olovngrl

              I dunno…if you desire fame, and all the trappings that go with it, I think you have to be prepared that you will most definitely be someone’s idol and wield a great deal of influence. It might not be her job, but she gets paid a lot of money to be out in the public eye.I feel the same about famous athletes. The whole world is their stage; they get paid a shit ton of money, it would be nice if they could accept that setting a good example goes with the territory. There are many famous people who do realize this and do a lot of good work through their fame, but I think you also have to have a certain level of self awareness that Rihanna may be lacking. “With great power comes great responsibility” -Uncle Ben

            • Mistie Holler

              It’s not her job, but she should take into consideration that she’s one of the people who is defining popular culture at the moment. Teenagers are often impressionable and she chooses to market herself towards them. She does bear responsibility for what she puts out there.

            • Amelia

              If I ever have a daughter I would certainly hope that I didn’t raise her to believe that having/wanting/enjoying sex and not feeling the need to hide that fact was something to be ashamed of.  I also hope I would raise her to believe that her body is her own and what she does with it is no ones business but her own so long as she isn’t violating other peoples’ rights.

            • Airkisses

              That’s the ideal, but not all children have very involved parents that will try hard to instill in them values and inherent self-worth. Many parent’s, for whatever reason, can’t or won’t. There are many children out there raised by TV, and plenty of tweens and adolescents being educated by popular media.

              I do think it’s the parent’s role to educate their children about such things, but I ALSO believe that popular media should be held accountable for the messages that it sends out.

              Not one or the other, but both.

            • Amelia

               I think you might have missed my point.  Anniebet’s primary objection to Rihanna seems to be that she is supposedly sending bad messages by being sexy in public and thus is sleazy and slutty and should be ashamed of herself.  My point was that it isn’t some kind of moral failing to be obviously sexual and therefore the “messages” being sent out by Rihanna aren’t bad and she and others can quit with the “slut” and “streetwalker” comments.

              I also don’t believe that anyone, even people in the public eye have a responsibility to live their lives for anyone else.  People, even adolescents, make their own choices.  The only power to influence Rihanna has is the power people give her.  She has a right to mess up her own life as much as she wants, regardless of who might be watching.

            • Kristin McNamara

              Okay, that is also true. The original post was not very proper or polite either. But with my comment, I was moreso trying to defend the honor of my fellow BKs than get into trying to combat the slandering (or not slandering) of the various celebrities that get featured on this site.

            • urbanamish

              this isn’t about celebrity. “slut” is anti-woman .  unless you mean it as a compliment (which i do on occasion).  sex is good.  not for nothing, but weed is good too. (which i do on occasion.)

    • jilly_d

      It’s interviews like these that make me glad that when I was her age, no one asked me to explain every bad decision I made to a national audience. I’m sure that, even now, less than 10 years later, I would be horrified at the asnine remarks I would have made. Rhianna, honey, for your sake and ours, just shut your mouth and pose.

    • Sobaika

      I, for one, am very tired of her life and people discussing it.

      Still obsessed with that LV collection.

      • StellaZafella

         Me too with the LV collection…it so takes me back in a good way to the days of Mary Quant, Twiggy and Jane Tree.
        I, for one, can almost hear Petula Clark on the radio….sigh.

      • H2olovngrl

        I am so NOT over that LV collection. One of the most memorable collections I can think of. I see pics of celebrities and wonder why they aren’t begging to wear some of those awesome checkered prints. LOVELOVELOVE!!!

      • PaulaBerman

        She should stop saying stuff about her life, then, because every time she opens her mouth, there’s new craziness to talk about.

        • Sobaika

          I guess that’s it, I just don’t find any of her behavior very interesting. Someone here compared her to LiLo, and while that’s not totally fair considering Rihanna is actually at the top of her career and Lindsay couldn’t get an infomercial made, I similarly shake my head at their antics and move on.

          Rihanna has made her choices and has been very brash about them. One day she will likely learn, but maybe she won’t. C’est la vie. I will bob my head to her songs, hope no one gets hurt, and if and when I have daughters, instill them with a strength and sense of self that doesn’t come from a gun tattoo.

          • PaulaBerman

            Well said! I agree with you, mostly, though I do have to admit, I find her particular train wreck kind of horrifyingly fascinating, much moreso than LiLo because Rihanna has actual talent. I hope she doesn’t get hurt, but I fear that it’s inevitable. 

            • H3ff

              HA. 
              You had me until you claimed that Rihanna has talent. Girl can’t sing, can’t dance, doesn’t write her own songs, and CERTAINLY cannot act. 
              I love a lot of her songs and she is a fabulous dresser (and of course probably THE biggest pop star today), but it’s also hilarious to say that any potential downward spiral is sadder because of her ‘actual talent’.

            • http://twitter.com/DarthJaeda Jaeda Laurez

              I have to disagree- all of us have pictures that attest to how hard it is to take a good picture lol. Giving face is a talent, and one that we express admiration for regularly on this site. And she may not be Patti LaBelle, but she can sing, and her voice has actually improved over the last album. 

            • PaulaBerman

               I didn’t say it was sadder because of her talent. I said I found it more fascinatingly horrifying. Big difference. I do think it’s sadder, because there is physical abuse going on, not because of the talent level. I wish people wouldn’t put words in my mouth. I’m glad you found a moment of hilarity, but you made it up yourself.

            • H3ff

              Fine then, more “horrifying”. Same difference. 
              Although I didn’t mean “hilarious-ha ha” but more “hilarious-completely ridiculous of you to say”.

            • PaulaBerman

              It’s hilarious that I find one person more horrifyingly fascinating than another? OK, yeah. Whatever.

            • SassieCassy

              hahaha ikr? and i think this is stranger because lindsey was considered to be a young up and coming talent esp. after mean girls

            • Mistie Holler

              Rihanna has a lot of talent as a performer. I don’t like her music but whenever I’ve had to sit through a performance of hers on TV, I just feel like she means every word she sings and you get wrapped up in the song with her. 

          • Rand Ortega

             Sobaika w/ the beautiful name, you’re far wiser than your years. Your future daughters (& sons) will be very lucky indeed.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZBFH32YG44LIIZYLSQPMBXMYCU Sarah

            Yeah, what you said, and also the ability to BE THEIR OWN PERSON without the inane actions of one pop star influencing their behavior and life choices. Jesus, it’s like Riri is some kind of a threat to humankind. When I was growing up, I was a juvenile delinquent of the highest order, and I identified with ZERO celebrities (Except Don Cornelius. And maybe Gopher. I loved the Love Boat – not his fault). Pop stars aren’t responsible for raising your children, and if people are terrified that they will somehow sully their offspring, they should look at themselves and their parenting.

            • carolclark12

               Gopher and Don Cornelious.  That has to be the first time EVER they’ve both been listed as teen influences.  In this sea of violence and negativity (deservedly so), you have made me belly laugh.

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZBFH32YG44LIIZYLSQPMBXMYCU Sarah

              Good! But since I really can’t remember ANY celeb influences (maybe that girl in the ZZTop Legs video? With the shoes and ruffly socks?), I was reaching. They just seemed to my memory to be the best guys on TV, but on thought since typing, I guess the problem, nowadays, is that I didn’t know what either of those people were actually UP TO in their private lives. Much too much of that, these days. But my point still stands – kids are sponges, yes, but only sop up what you let them.

    • http://twitter.com/PsychicMuppet Bitsy Carver

      Isn’t this the same interview where she said she wanted to have kids soon?

      • H2olovngrl

        Oh dear god!

      • urbanamish

        yep

    • http://kingderella.tumblr.com/ kingderella

      i really wanted to like her latest album, and mentally separate it from all the chris brown bullshit. except, almost the entire album is *about* the chris brown bullshit. so i just had to delete it again. i cant with her right now.

      well… i like her hair, especially with those lips.
      im guessing the eyes are photoshop rather than coloured lenses, because they look perfectly non-creepy.

    • StellaZafella

      I recuse myself from the Ri-chrisp talk for personal reasons.

      But anytime a celebrity tries to say “I’m a regular person, just like y’all…after all I smoke pot, just like y’all…” etc.
      I reply to my screen: “Uh, no honey, not really. And smoking pot doesn’t make you anything like me. If you want to do it, do it…if you ever get, and stay clean and sober for 30 years like me…we’ll have somethin’ to talk about.”

      She does wear clothes well…and that’s something else that’s a little out of the ordinary – in my life.

      • A. W.

        Congrats on 30 years sober! That’s a monumental accomplishment.

    • Qitkat

      I normally don’t criticize anything a celebrity says, as the questions can be quite foolish, but I think she sounds like a defiant 15 year old, trying to justify her choices. Someone needs to tell her, and many others that they are entitled to some privacy, it isn’t necessary or wise to share all the moments of one’s life. Choosing dignity over so-called dishonesty.

      • snarkykitten

         YOU’RE NOT MY REAL MOM

      • PaulaBerman

        Did you read her Rolling Stone interview? Ugh, she is terribly misguided and self-righteous about it. I smoke pot! I have a gun tattoo! I am dating a guy who everyone knows bruised my face! I’m a GROWN WOMAN! I can’t stand it.

    • Sara__B

      As a person, I gave up smoking pot when I became a mother, as a sign of strength and maturity. (Lucky for me I’m not an entertainer, so I don’t have to worry about the idiot things I said when I was in my 20s being written up in magazines or posted online.) Rhianna is so young– she still has a lot of growing up to do.

      • meowing

        Yeah, I try to give a lot of slack to the youngins’, but I do hope there’s some Old Wise Person in her life to counterbalance her path to self-harm.

        • formerlyAnon

            Hell. Some Old Wise Person, a Hallmark Afterschool Special, a good
          therapist, a damn bumper sticker. What I hope for even harder is she
          arrives at that moment where she’s ready to learn how to treat herself better.

    • snarkykitten

      I wish someone would take her aside and talk to her candidly about her decisions. The weed smoking is like, not even on the list of things I take issue with.

      but  I feel the same way about LiLo so…guess I’m a dreamer.

      she looks phenomenal, so there’s that.

      • H2olovngrl

        Ditto, regarding Lilo. It is a slowmo train wreck, that is for sure. Like one you can see coming for miles but no one listens to you and you can’t stop it

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1401197785 Jennifer Peters-Ahnberg

      I just look at the pictures. She’s a beautiful girl and works a camera but I stopped wanting to hear what she has to say a LONG time ago.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Space_Kitty Space Kitty

      OH, CHILD.  *SMH*

    • In_Stitches

      The idea of a gun signifying strength is perhaps the most angering thought in that rambling mess of dialogue…

      • Eclectic Mayhem

        That’s certainly the bit that turned my stomach the most.

        • BrooklynBomber

          “the bit that turned my stomach most.”  Exactly. One stomach turning bit after another, isn’t it?

      • Mistie Holler

        I don’t find it angering but I do find it confusing, and I suppose it probably says something about her mentality regarding Chris, too. If I were cleverer I could figure out precisely what.

    • YourBaloneyDontGotNoSecondName

      once again we have a coconut…

    • betorah

      The cover photo looks like she’s wearing a talis (Jewish prayer shawl for those who aren’t MOT [members of the tribe]), over a bathing suit. The Hasidim will be out in force to protest. Or not, since they’d have to look at the magazine in secret. Of course she has a gun tatoo. There’s no place to pack one under the tallis.

      • birkatbaby

        It looks nothing like a talis!  It has no fringe, no stripes, and last I heard, a talis doesn’t have a flower on it.  It’s a dress that looks like it’s wrapped around her.  That’s the only talis comparison.  

        • betorah

          It’s true it has no fringe, but there are tallisim In dark blue, red, tallisim in pink and purple, tallisim with appliqued burning bushes, fruit and rainbow stripes on them. As a matter of fact, I just checked and you can purchase a Tallis with lavender or pink flowers, if you’d like.

    • decormaven

      Since that LV collection has made the celebrity rounds already, and that Prada look does not interest me, there’s nothing of style left to discuss. 

    • Sobaika

      Sometimes a clever turn of phrase doesn’t quite cut it, you know? The language may not be to everyone’s taste, but I’m firmly in the corner of fuck off with that ‘be a slut’ bullshit. 

    • Rand Ortega

      Rihanna, I only have 5 words for you, honey: Whitney said the same thing.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCLO5V2YD36T7QMPKOC7YXPOFU Erica

        A long line of women have said the same thing–about the man and the drugs. I was a prosecutor for several years. It kinda makes me glad that Ri is out there, because once of the common lines is that “she can’t leave him because she has no money.”. And that’s certainly part of it for a lot of women who are victims of domestic abuse. But it’s the self-destructive behavior front and center a lot of the times, and a rich woman like Ri, or Whitney, shines a light on that, because money can’t fix your own self-destruction.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JSGAZPEESHQT47ATH55GNOHHBY Erin

      I know you can’t write off every woman who returns to her abuser, but her?  No sympathy.  Hope he doesn’t kill you before you wise up, dumbass.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=805505 Steph Foster

      She’s beautiful, but she’s an idiot and a deluded one at that. 

    • unbornfawn

      This girl is one sick puppy.

    • BrooklynBomber

      I went to this post and had a thought I didn’t expect (because I never think about her): I’m tired of her. And then I read that regressive, idiotic CRAP BULLSHIT (you are so right TLo: “I instagram everything from getting high to Bible study” far outdoes “as a mother, etc.”), and now I’m beyond tired of her. A gun tattoo as a symbol of strength? Give me a fucking break.

      I wish she, Lindsay Lohan, and Britney Spears would retire to a very remote farm and spend their days cultivating exotic orchids or raising alpacas. Anything that will keep them busy, focused, and out of the limelight.

    • BigWhiteGrannyPanties

      Are those camel toe pink boots on that model in the last photo? Please say no.  Someone please say no.

      • Anniebet

        Those look similar to the Japanese tabi style of socks which are worn with thong shoes. They have a division between the big toe and the rest.

        You’re prolly right though. The camel toe pink boot description seems appropriate.

      • BrooklynBomber

        As Anniebet says, below: Japanese tabi socks. The garment she’s wearing (top? jacket? wrap?) shows a very Japanese influence. But, geez, it looks horrible on the model.

    • bertkeeter

      Love her hair and makeup…very Caribe Audrey Hepburnesque!??!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=661875515 Hanoslava Galapagos

      Thank you, guys, for bringing back the fond memories of ““As a mother, entertainer, and person…”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=661875515 Hanoslava Galapagos

      Thank you, guys, for bringing back the fond memories of ““As a mother, entertainer, and person…” 

    • Aurumgirl

      This isn’t the first time I’ve seen Vuitton over-use a collection.  It’s like they’re incredibly insecure, as marketers–buying up magazine space to set up faux editorials, flooding the red carpets with the same one or two outfits every season.  I find it kind of sad.  

      As for discussing Rhihanna’s personal life, no thanks.  I think she’s at an age where she’s going to make those kinds of mistakes again and again, until she slowly realizes what needs to be done and how to do it.  The trouble is, the most dangerous thing a battered woman can do is leave her abuser.  Hope she figures out how to do that because abusers don’t stop till they kill, and I’d hate to see that headline.    

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1266410766 Phyllis Craine

      Annoying as hell but  yes the camera loves her

    • http://twitter.com/jalae Janey

      I thought she had long hair again? 

    • http://twitter.com/katoshicksu Kate

      HOTT MESS.

    • shelley514

      Rihanna is gorgeous.  And young.  She’ll wince in 20 years when she looks back on the DUMB sh*t she said.  But let’s not be too critical; she’s simply a singer and wannabe fashion designer who clearly could have been a supermodel.

    • rococodada

      “when I got the gun [tattoo]. It was a symbol of strength”  Guns are for cowards.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/37TPKASIMXVUPYK5BNQFOL43KU Carina

      She gets more and more beautiful as she gets older. I’m already sick of the LV checks and I just can’t with the Prada.

    • http://twitter.com/watchinginkdry Krysta

      That Prada coat looks way better on her than it did on the runway.

    • http://twitter.com/lisledanielle Danielle Lisle

      Please, please, PLEASE don’t have a child with Chris Brown. You both are still idiot children yourselves.

    • AthenaJ

      Oh RiRi, getting a tattoo of a gun and smoking pot does not show strength… kicking the guy who beat you to a bloody pulp out of your life does.

      As far as the fashion goes, no surprise that she looks great. Still diggin that LV collection, and I actually like the Prada…thing. Of course it only works in editorials and I have no clue who could or would wear it out in the real world.

    • oldbobbydraper

      i wish this girl would crawl back into whatever hole she came out of.

    • ashtangajunkie

      As a mother, entertainer, and person, I got a tattoo of a Japanese symbol when I was 19 as a symbol of my individuality. Celebrities  - they’re just like us! 

      Rihanna looks very beautiful on the cover. I like her more as a model (not role, just model) than a singer.

    • PeaceBang

      I love that color blue and she looks smashing. That is the extent of my fashion critique. Now I’m here with my cup of coffee, my pursed lips of disapproval and my raised eyebrow of incredulity. Stupid remarks are so unbecoming. And this is full of stupid choices and S to the TOOPID comments.

    • http://www.facebook.com/seelebrennt Christina Diaz

      i detest her.  i can’t even begin to talk about chris brown because even just typing his name offends me.  she is a very pretty girl, but her life choices…i just can’t even.

    • formerlyAnon

      I like those covers more the more I look at them.

      Her celebrity bubble world is very apparent. Unmediated social media just invites backlash when you live in a bubble – sooner or later the disconnect between supposedly “relate-able” you and the peons outside the bubble is showcased.

    • MarissaLG

      This is one of the grossest things I’ve ever read, “That’s when I got the gun [tattoo]. It was a symbol of strength.” She’s stunningly beautiful, but that LV look is tired already. There’s nothing more to add. 

    • alyce1213

      I’m wondering what reaction this will provoke in the U.K.  They don’t love guns.

    • libraangel

      Loved the clothes until I saw that stupid hippy-dippy flower!

    • http://twitter.com/aidanboleyn Aidan B

      Hair and makeup are fabulous; better than she’s looked for a long time.
      As for the personal stuff, I will only say this: I hope to God her story doesn’t end like the fictionalized version of it on Law and Order SVU did last week. That was a powerful episode and I hope she wisens up before she suffers the same fate.

    • guest2visits

       She looks gorgeous, but she always does when someone is dressing her for these pictorials.
      She just comes off as more and more childish and immature. This is her way of telling her public that yes she smokes dope, but it’s her
      decision, so it’s ok. And yes she’s back with Chris, but thats her new, more grown-up relationship – so it’s ok. And yes she likes the wild
      life; strip clubs and such are her thing, so thats fine too. If she says it’s all good because she being honest about it, no one should give her

      any grief about it, right?  And a gun-shaped tattoo is giving her some kind of protection against what..?  Bad karma? Chris?
      More likely a symbol that’s supposed represent how tough she stands up to anyone who’s ever questioned her bad choices. Thats nice.
      Yawn. Unfortunately; many young people will be enviable of her lifestyle because of one thing: the power of money and fame.

    • suzq

      Wow.  She’s approaching Gwenyth Paltrow pretentiousness.  At least she looks good doing it.

    • Judy_J

      Whoop-dee-freakin’-doo. 

    • Nonmercisansfacon

      I don’t understand that Prada garment. Is it a dress? Or a coverup? What is it really? As for Rihanna and Chris Brown, I can’t change them or influence their actions, I can only change my actions and my behavior about them. So I don’t buy their sh*t and I don’t listen to their crap voluntarily, since in some ways, what I chose to spend my money on is a reflection of myself.  Next step off the Rihanna-Chris Bown trainwreck: not reading about them. I’m obviously not there yet but I stopped reading anything Rihanna-related on Jezebel! That’s the first big step! 

    • MaryAtRealityTea

      Reading this interview, I thought one thing… ‘Oh kids… Youth.’ Call me in 10 years Ri-Ri so we can laugh about how wise you professed to be. 

    • kathrineb

      I love the first shot and now I feel less inadequate about my posture :s. LOL.

    • ccm800

      pose more. STFU more.

    • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

      “No, people are blaming the victim by calling her an idiot and not actively making the effort to discuss the inherent problem in the situation, including the complex and unfortunate psychology that comes along with being involved in an abusive relationship. ”

      Your words, taking others to task for not responding in the exact manner you think they should.