AnnaSophia Robb in NYC, Shooting The Carrie Diaries

Posted on February 07, 2013

We haven’t seen The Carrie Diaries because we’re middle-aged men.

But because we’re silly, middle-aged GAY men, we know there’s a Saturday afternoon in our future where we’ll wind up speed-viewing all the aired episodes, our curiosity finally having gotten the best of us. Maybe we’ll make a party out of it and drink wine in our sweatpants. Anyway our point is… well, it’s really more of a question. Have any of the kittens seen it? We were surprised to see that the initial reviews were more positive than we would have predicted.

Anyway, here’s BabyCarrie, AnnaSophia Robb, in costume:

AnnaSophia Robb filming ‘The Carrie Diaries’ in New York City.

The show is set in 1984. As two people who were alive, upright, fully dressed and sexually active (sort of) in 1984, we can tell you right now, Annasophia, this is how the dumb, crazy, awkward girl in an ’80s teen comedy dressed; the one in braces who tried to breakdance and everyone laughed at her.

And even then, she would have rather died than worn navy tights. And the silhouette of that jacket is painfully wrong. And, well, basically you look like a candy-colored homeless person, dear.


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  • It’s so dowdy for being so brazenly tacky.

    • NinaBoo

      Oh, Patricia Fields, where art thou?

  • Sobaika

    I haven’t seen it, but I too will spend one lazy afternoon with a bottle of wine and a speedthrough of The Carrie Diaries.
    She looks ludicrous, although I’m ashamed to admit I want that skirt.

    •  I share your shame in loving that skirt. 

      •  The Cindy Lauper-ish skirt is the most accurate part of the outfit, though the hair is pretty close.

      • Sobaika

        It’s just so cute! A sartorial Archie comic. Except with tulle.

        • pop_top

           Yes. Jughead would salivate.

    • RebeccaKW

       I haven’t watched it, but I do enjoy the recaps on the Fug Girls.  And they have much to say about the clothing.

  • LindsayGoon

    Yeah… This is what people THINK the 80s were like.  They need to be a bit more accurate: Just because it’s neon doesn’t make it 80s.

    • Meg0GayGuys6

      That’s what I was thinking. I was born in ’86 so I have no memories of what people actually wore, but I feel this is more the stereotypical 80s outfit, rather than what Carrie (or many people for that matter) would have actually worn all in one outfit.

      • RebeccaKW

        Have you seen the ‘joke’ or whatever it’s actually called in internet language, of a picture from the breakfast club, with the 5 of them sitting on the rail in the library, and a caption that says ‘how people in the 80’s actually dressed.’ and then underneath a picture of a large group of girls in neon tulle skirts and side ponytails with fingerless gloves and the caption reads ‘how college girls think people in the 80’s dressed.’  It’s like this show picked one style of dress and copied it for everything.  Yes, people did dress like Cyndi Lauper (or Madonna, or ).  But not everyone, and not all the time.

        I was born in ’78, so I was in elementary school in this time period, so my memories are of children’s clothes.  I remember a lot of pleats in pants, and I wore keds with everything.

        •  Also born in  ’78.  I remember loud bermuda shorts, jellies, and lots of tapered jeans. The college girls need to watch more John Hughes movies.  (Flashdance, Footloose, Red Dawn, etc are also acceptable.)

          • RebeccaKW

             Oh, the jellies.  I wore mine with socks.  My younger brother had a lot of those bermuda shorts and full on pants.  Jams?  Is that right? 

            I know it’s later than this show takes place, but the styles were still similar, in Mystic Pizza and Some Kind of Wonderful. 

            Ugh, there are so many references they could be using. 

          • SassieCassy

            if you wore jellies with socks then at least your feat didnt get all cut up.

          • RebeccaKW

            I had the slip-on style, open-toe, in that kind of waffle-weave or lattice pattern.  It seems like my baby toe always got stuck in a hole.  Also, those shoes made my feet sweat.

        • peacockprincess

          It’s a ‘meme’  Here’s the link and it is spot on.  Thanks for reminding me of it.

        • kimmeister

          ’79er here.  I think anyone in a professional environment at the time had boxy jackets with gigantic shoulder pads (and possibly double breasted).

          I’ll back you up with the Keds and pleated pants, and add zip-ankle Guess jeans and multiple pairs of different-colored socks (for girls).  For boys, Buble Boy jeans like Slater used to wear on Saved by the Bell.

          • RebeccaKW

            Oh, the zip-ankle jeans!  Ugh, I had blocked that horror out.  I also owned several tiered ruffle skirts.  I loved those things.

          • kimmeister

            I thought I had “arrived” when my mom finally broke down and bought me a pair of zip-ankle jeans.  Then, one day, a grasshopper somehow jumped up my pant leg and GOT STUCK because it was so tight.  Talk about horror!

          • RebeccaKW

             Sorry to laugh at your pain, but that makes me giggle. 🙂

          •  When Harry Met Sally is good for a glimpse of 1980s work wear.

          • barbarienne

             Likewise Working Girl. They exaggerate a little bit on the secretaries, but not much.

  • SewingSiren

    There was already a show about Carrie when she was a teen, what she acted like , and what she wore. It was called Square Pegs. Look it up. That’s exactly what Carrie was like.

    • minnye

      SJP has always had a place in my heart from Square Pegs 🙂

    • Pooja Mirpuri

       Once I found about square pegs a couple years ago I totally marathoned it – it really was more mini Carrie than this

    • mjude

      loved that show! LOL

    • paginatrix

       … AND The Waitresses sang the theme song! At the time, I couldn’t believe it was actually on TV.

    •  I loved Square Pegs!! It captured what I felt like in school at the time! I watched the pilot of the Carrie Diaries; it was ok though nothing too exciting. Frankly, my favorite part was the fact that Martha from Dr. Who is in it.  Though I love being a PUF, I’ve never been very fashionable (I try sometimes but I don’t have the budget for it and I don’t have the eye) so I can’t completely comment on the fashion accuracy. Though, I was in high school at the time this is set (geez, I’m old) and this does look wrong.

      • My favorite part was knives from scott pilgrim was in it.

    • Rand Ortega

       Thank you! I just posted that then read yours. RIP Merritt Butrick (Johnny Slash). He was a wonderful friend.

  • MilaXX

    Watched I think 3  eps, the show is not good. I like the skirt here.

  • Plus, that jacket is Too Tight! Tams were not in style at all.  And scarves were not being worn bunched at the neck in that way. That is a totally 2010 and after look.

    Geez, do they not at least have a 50ish woman on staff to fill them in on this stuff?  Tragic considering that so much of the appeal of this show is going to be around the fashion.

    • Even a 40ish woman could do it.  That is not an 1984 outift in any way.  Dead on about the coat, scarf & tam.  The pattern on the skirt, while cute, is wrong, as is the style and hem length.  Should be a little shorter, with no tulle underneath (on top would be better), and paired with slouch socks (layered) and white Keds.  Navy tights would not have even been considered – they would have been a contrasting neon.  I’d keep the pin (I wore such jewelry then), maybe the shoes (adorable, but still not quite right), and the color sense, but all else needs to go.

      Edited because correct grammar is necessary.

      •  Its particularly irksome, since getting it right would be so EASY!  There are tons of references all over the net, not to mention all the real time advice to be had from women who were budding fashionistas at that very time.  Hell, couldn’t they even screen “Heathers”?

        • Not to mention the plethora of John Hughes movies from then.  If they’d given her a hat like Andie’s in “Pretty in Pink”, and a boxier coat, that would have gone a long way it making this a better look for the time.

        • The fuggirls have made the point that the target audience, presumably late teens, would find it bizarre and alienating to have a character dressed exactly the way we did in 1984 so some of the peripheral characters are dressed more accurately but Carrie is dressed more accessibly. Plausible if irritating!

          •  Yep, really annoying. At least to those of us who did the 80’s in real time.

          • RebeccaKW

            Plausible, and likely, but I find it odd that the audience would find it alienating when most of them have seen The Breakfast Club and Sixteen Candles, etc.  Plus, so much of the accurate clothing isn’t all that odd.  Dressing her up like Madonna in “Borderline” would be a bit out there, but dressing her like anything Molly Ringwald wore in any movie shouldn’t be that bizarre.

          • RaptorSafari

            They haven’t though. The “old movies” a sixteen-year-old watches were made in the late nineties/early 00’s. Their high school romance to watch on cable on a Sunday afternoon is 10 Things I Hate About You or maybe She’s All That. Even Mean Girls came out almost 10 years ago, so it’s always been a Cable/DVD movie for today’s teenagers, not something they saw in theaters. I’m a good ten years older than the target demo for this show, and even I didn’t see the classic 80s movies until I intentionally sought them out and watched them from a film history perspective.
            And honestly, Molly Ringwald’s clothing looks a lot more unappealing to my eye than the more costumey looks, because those have endured as points of reference for stagewear and retro fashion lines, while the understated looks just feel frumpy now, since they highlighted completely different lines and shapes than what we wear today. All the neutral colors and boxy/bulky shapes – they’re being reexamined for adult high-end fashion these days maybe, but not for teenagers. Even period-accurate heels would look bizarrely low and squat compared to today, where 4-inch is standard.

          • Elizabetta1022

            Interesting. If that’s what they’re doing, they aren’t respecting their audience. Teens aren’t morons–they get it. We dressed differently. Do they really need to see people in “faux-80s clothes” in order to make this show palatable for them? 

          •  I wouldn’t have thought so. On the other hand, I know with Mad Men sometimes the fashions are quite jarring because they are authentic.

          • Elizabetta1022

            I think that’s part of the reason I love Mad Men so much, though. I have so many moments where I think, “Wow, that used to be considered hip and edgy!” 

        • altalinda

          I was thinking that the costumers should watch one of my favorites, Desperately Seeking Susan.

          •  Right!  Another one that really gives insight into edgy NYC fashion in the 80s is “Slaves Of New York” with Bernadette Peters

          • Bernadette Peters has been my spirit animal/hero/personal god since I was 7 or 8-years-old. Unequivocally, I adore her. I would pick out the best thermos for her!!!

        • Cold Fire

          I was born in 89 so no memories of the 80s, but I am a very big fan of 80s soul music and None of my soul singers dressed this way. Young or old….The 80s are my favorite decade behind the 50s fashion wise bc ladies were gaudy and elegant again. I just have a huge music collection and tons of photos.  I loved the real fashion of the 80s. Loved it! 

          • Different subculture though – I didn’t dress anything like an 80s soul singer!

          • Cold Fire

            Well you would’ve been a bad bitch if you did! 🙂  

      • I’m in my 30’s and even I could to better than this! Do you think it’s a problem of budget or knowledgeable creativity? The current proportions, cuts and fits have changed a great deal from the ’80s aesthetic and I get the feeling they are just using modern clothes and attempting to style them into the ’80s; it’s not working for me.

        • I think it’s a marketing tactic. For shows aimed at young female audiences, the clothes are practically their own character and I think young viewers are watching and wondering where these clothes come from. I vaguely remember there was an entire blog dedicated to help identify the clothes worn on Gossip Girl. I think the baggy, shapeless, ruffled and neon styles as they were worn in the 1980s wouldn’t appeal or make sense to these kids, so they take clothes that have a general 1980s vibe (look, neon! patterns with ice cream sundaes!) and slap them on the actresses …. then go sell knockoffs at Forever21. But it’s disappointing that they couldn’t even get easy styling touches – like the way that scarf is worn – right.

          • I find it strange though, since baggy 80s/90s styles are so in vogue at the moment (at least here in London it is, and I imagine, NYC). Those styles are going to be back in shops soon enough, why not be ahead of the curve? And if they don’t want to do 80s fashion, why bother making a show set in the 80s?

      • Ding ding ding!  That ‘s what I couldn’t figure out about the tights.  I did love those contrasting colors.

      • zuzu

         Either Keds or Reebok hightops.  I had a pair in bubblegum pink.

        And there’s a dearth of splatter paint print.

        • RebeccaKW

           She’s in desperate need of an acid washed jean jacket with splatter paint.

          • Elizabetta1022

            And maybe a shirt that says, “Frankie Say Relax.” And an asymmetrical haircut.

        • Ah, yes, hightops would actually be better for this, if you’re going to go full-on 80’s.

        • Laurie Bergman

          Yes! I made my own splatter paint jeans in 1984–white jeans with primary paint splatter. THAT and maybe a large-fitting graphic print Esprit T would lend some authenticity.

      • Ali3n Baby

        The coat should have shoulder pads you could discern from space.  It wouldn’t have pleats under the pockets but her pinstriped jeans would have.  Either jellies or hightop Reboks (with velcro closures) would have been much more likely than those dotted kitten heels (did anyone in the entire decade have a kitten heel?) and the bright plastic earrings would have dangled, not been on posts.

        • UsedtobeEP

          I had my first pair of kitten heels (gray, open toe, with big bows on them) in 1985. They huuuuurt when I wore them to school the first time. I had to wear my “Chinese baby doll shoes” for days to recover.

        • not_Bridget

          Kitten heels would have worked with ankle socks. 

          But I have observed style since the days of black beatnik tights. There was never a time when navy blue tights were anything but dreadful.

      • librarygrrl64

        Yes, I am 48, and my brain did a record* screetch when I saw this.

        (*evidence of my decrepitude right there)

      •  In 1984 they wouldn’t have been tights, they would have been leggings.

    • minnye

      I have a suspicion that the show is more about promoting 80’s-inspired trends than aiming for historical accuracy. After all, there’s no markup/ profit if fans flock to thrift stores to copy the styles worn by the characters.

      •  True, so true.  Of course, what the old film studios would do, is partner with manufacturers who would make street ready versions of the fashions seen in a film. That way, the Studio could still do a high end, exclusive look, regardless of whether it was a historical film or contemporary, and the fashion industry got to market  new lines of goods to a great profit.

    • Wendi126

      50ish woman here.. I lived in center city Philly in early 80’s and I remember lots of stretch pants with straps under the foot worn with huge oversized sweaters with shoulder pads and ankle booties. Big ass blazers with shoulder pads and narrow lapels. Paper bag pants worn with skinny belts- the pants waist would ruffle and cinch above the belt. Professionally, blouses with shoulder pads and big floppy bows tucked into long skirts with wide belts. And mullets of every kind. Madonna influences but rarely the whole look- lace gloves, big jewelry..

      • librarygrrl64

        Ahhhhh, stirrup pants!!!!! The bane of anyone with long legs like mine. I had one pair (hunter green) from Lands End because they made them in tall/long sizes.

        • Wendi126

          Stirrups! Could not think of the straps had to do. I’m short and the crotch used to hang down but no worries cause the huge sweater came down almost to the knees. And socks worn over the ankles with short booties! Oh the humanity

          • librarygrrl64

            Sooooo many scary flashbacks, Wendi!!!

        • RebeccaKW

           My aunt (6’1″) would wear stirrup pants, but the legs were always to short to hook the stirrup.  So she’d leave them hanging off and then wear either boots or big slouchy socks to hide it.

    • barbarienne

       A woman who spent every minute of high school in the 1980s would be 47 at most (my sister was class of 1984).

    • pop_top

      Admittedly (and I’m obviously going back through posts and commenting really late so this may have been pointed out), but Carrie is probably one of the only characters whose outfits are clearly 2010s interpretation of 80s. The other characters, especially some of the more minor ones and the extras, have much more 80s appropriate hair, accessories and clothing.

  • 4JJ

    The outfit is too much in all the ways you identified. Looks like a Barbie closet exploded on her.

    As for the show, haven’t seen it yet, but will probably watch it. My 22-year-old daughter and her friends are big SATC fans, and they are irked by how key details have been changed (e.g., Carrie in SATC talked about her father leaving when she was a little girl, but in TCD Carrie lives with her father and her mother is dead).

    What I really don’t understand is how this round-faced little girl with the button nose is supposed to age into Sarah Jessica Parker. I know SJP is very distinctive-looking (and I’m old enough to remember when Darren Stevens the First turned into Darren Stevens II and we were all supposed to pretend it was the same guy), but still…..! Are there not any long-faced, long-nosed, beautiful-eyed young actresses out there who could look just a LITTLE like older Carrie??

    • Adriana_Paula

      I also hate the ignoring of salient details about Carrie’s past; I feel exploited when it’s clear the makers of a show want to capitalize on my fondness for something while completely disregarding that I was fond enough to pay attention.  Which is actually how I feel about the SATC movies too.  (Still mad about them putting Stanford and Anthony together.)

      • 4JJ

        Well said! A few years ago, the author of a mystery series I like very much changed the surnames and characteristics of two recurring secondary characters. I later learned it wasn’t author error – she had just decided to make these changes for (minor) plot reasons – and it was the 4th time readers had met these characters. That’s not okay. Writers of books and TV/movie series have a contract with readers/viewers not to play fast and loose with key details of the fictional worlds they ask us to buy into and care about.

        Whew! Got myself a  bit wound up there!

  • Mismarker

    Right? Nothing about any of these photos screams 1984.  Except, maybe, for the dude in 3rd pic down wearing velcro shoes.  

    • Scott Hester-Johnson

      Ah, the Velcro shoes. As a fashion forward gay boy in 1982, I was the first person at my high school to rock them, and was mocked mercilessly for it. A year later, everyone had them.

      Heavy is the (gay teen) head that wears the (fashion) crown.

      • Mismarker

        Love it! Yes, heavy is the crown.  ; ) Velcro shoes were the pinnacle of cool by the time they hit us in South Dakota.  I had grey KangaRoos in 4th grade (1983-84).  I’m sure my mom bought them at Sears.  The more I look at ASR’s outfit, the more I hate it for its lack of authenticity.  No velcro and no arbitrary zippers? Come on.  

  • LCTerrill

    Yes. This looks like the airhead sorority-girl “80s Dance Party” costumes you see all over the place on a college campus. Pretty much a current style, with brighter colors and slightly crazier hair.

    What always kills me is that these looks are really more similar to the early 90s getups…

  • muelonil

    The show is…not great, not horrific…I don’t love it but I’ll probably keep it in my DVR and watching it for awhile.  Probably a good plan to save them &  just speed through the episides in one afternoon.  There’s not that much going on. 

    Anna Sophia Robb is cute…but best of all, Martha Jones is her New York “companion.”

    • Jessi03

      I’ve considered watching this abomination solely for Martha Jones.

  • MsALVA

    As a female who was a teenager in 1984, I can confirm that is NOT how girls (even baby Carrie Bradshaws) dressed in the 80’s. Yes, neon was big back then, but we did not wear it head to toe. 
    And the coat is ALL WRONG. The proportions back then were baggy, big shoulder pads, faded denim. That coat is straight out of 2013. The scarf, the brooch, the wool hat, it’s ALL wrong.
    If you want to know how a cool NYC teenage in the 80’s dressed, all you have to do is see how Denise Huxtable on the Cosby Show dressed (pre-going off to Hillman and getting dreadlocks). SHE was the epitome of cool teen fashionista from NYC. I coveted her every outfit. She is how Carrie would have looked like.

    I feel like I won’t be able to watch this show because I’ll just be so annoyed at how wrong they are going to get the clothes. 

    •  Definitely. Denise Huxtable (and Winona Ryder in Beetlejuice) were my fashion heroes as a little girl. Even though I was just a sprog at the end of the 80s (I was born in 84), even I know how completely wrong this outfit is.

      • MsALVA

        Yes, exactly.

        Other perfect 80’s teenage fashions: Molly Ringwald in Pretty In Pink and Breakfast Club. The Heathers. 

        • The Heathers.  Exactly.  Way too much waist here and not enough shoulders!  At least the colors approximate what I wore in 1984…

        • Pretty in Pink is everything. Ducky Dale was one of my teenaged crushes (and such a perfect dresser), along with Lost Boys-era Keifer Sutherland. I was a goth growing up, so it was all about Ally Sheedy in Breakfast Club. Thinking about it now, I think 200 Cigarettes, though made in the ass-end of the 90s, had some pretty good artsy 80s outfits, maybe they should take a look at that for inspiration.

    • Jessi03

      I so badly wanted Denise Huxtable to be my best friend.  

    • deathandthestrawberry

      Yes!! As a 16-year-old mini fashinista in 1984 I was totally into vintage. Loved baggy men’s coats. In fact I still own the white tuxedo jacket that was a mainstay in during my high school years. I rolled up the sleeves (of course), wore it over over a t-shirt and accessorized with lots and lots of bangles. Think Borderline and Desperately Seeking Susan-era Madonna.

      I think the only thing in AnnaSophie’s I can kinda sorta see as being 80s appropriate is the skirt. At store like Express would have sold something like that. And maybe the shoes. But that coat is way too tailored to be period appropriate.

      • PeaceBang

        Egggzacklee. She’s not wearing even one piece from a thrift store and that makes this so wrong.

        • deathandthestrawberry

          And if anyone would have been into thrift stores it would have been Carrie Bradshaw. Incidentally, my old favorite thrift store in the town where I grew up closed its doors last summer. I was so sad.

      • Adriana_Paula

        I loved Borderline SO MUCH.

      • YES!  Big men’s shirts & jackets with tight jeans, cuffed and pegged.  And a fedora.  This was me in highschool.

    • filmcricket

      Denise is a good one. I’ve also said, repeatedly, that they should just look at Madonna and tone the outfits down for “acceptable in high school.” Carrie was a club kid who would have been one of the originals Madonna was aping in her look.

      Head bows, big sloppy sweaters, shoulder pads, stirrup pants, long slim skirts (I had a neon pink knitted one that I wore with a sloppy-large grey-and-pink plaid shirt. Belted, of course. I was SO COOL), tulle skirts over bike shorts, lace gloves, long necklaces knotted at least once… These trends did not exist all simultaneously, and yet if you were to put them all on Annasophia at the same time, she would still look more authentic than she does up there.

    • MilaXX

       YES! I once painted and arrow on my face ala Denise thinking I was oh so cool.

  • teensmom99

    actually, I used to like to wear colored tights in the 80s.  I also liked fun shoes but can’t imagine wearing shoes like these.  I also owned a somewhat less wild version of that kind of skirt–but never would have put it together with this sort of outfit.  I would have worn it with a plain top.  I never would have put all the crazy colors together–nor would I have worn a summery skirt with wintery stuff.  So just wrong.

  • 4JJ

    I don’t remember the heavier-weight neckline-filling scarf from the actual 80s, do you? I seem to remember we wore scarves a lot, but it was a silk scarf tied in various ways worn a bit lower down, or a woolen scarf crossed over and tucked into the neckline only with a winter coat. But I was already out of my teens then.

    • I was still a teen – you’re pretty much on the nose.  Scarves really came into vogue in the later 80’s – about 86-87.  (There’s at least one in my Highschool senior pictures from 89.)  I had a couple of those fringe, open-weave numbers, but even then, we wore them more open – it would have been tucked under the collar of the top, usually.

      • AmeliaEve

         There was a fill-in scarf style, but mostly with an oversized cotton scarf or keffiyah. Fold it in a triangle with the point in front, then wrap the long ends around your neck and bring back to the front. Makes a sort of cowl neck, usually worn loosely. Bonus if there was fringe involved.

  • Judy_J

    Looks like the wardrobe department was trying too hard.

  • I was 15 in 1984 and nobody in New york looked like the way she does on this show.   Plus the writers are already making mistakes with references to the time period.   

    • Nancy Dunn

      And the city was filthy!! And pretty unsafe.

  • shirab

    I think I read somewhere that the costume designer for the show was not going to imitate the 80s fashions exactly; rather, he was planning to evoke the decade but with a more modern look. To which I say, what is the point of that? Now the clothes are neither here nor there.

    • Adriana_Paula

      It’s like Donna Reed’s “flapper” outfit when she and Jimmy Stewart are first courting in It’s a Wonderful LIfe: all shape and pointy boobs, not authentic to the period at all.  More geared to hint at the 20s while inspiring fashion dreams in the audience who presumably were meant not to care.  Also like Ann Baxter’s “Egyptian” clothes in The Ten Commandments: completely about what people thought was sexy in the fifties.

  • alice20c

    It’s [the show] inaccurate about both the 80s and NY in the 80s. It’s retconning the city with a scrubbed-up backstory to match the latest influx of upper-middle class suburbanites, who see the city as a staging area for their “Brand Me” nonsense. (I’m a crusty & bitter kitten indeed.) The show is dumb. In the pilot, Carrie congratulates herself on recognizing that her little sister lost her mother too, as well as (finally) showing empathy…without noticing it’s bundled with an eff-load of condescension. Very Mary Sue.

    • I thought that Carrie’s reaction to her little sister’s grief was very in keeping with being a teenager. I distinctly recall not giving a rat’s ass about my family members’ pain when I was a teen – so the fact that she noticed and did something nice, then congratulated herself for it, sounds right to me.

      • alice20c

        Yeah, but the show had zero self-awareness about it. Popped it in the fail column for me. Plus, I am so beyond tired of shows for and about women and girls that rhapsodize about the female experience as a one-dimensional consumption fest, be it shopping or sex. It’s too dumb to love.

  • Scott Hester-Johnson

    I bailed on the show 20 minutes in. I was looking for some 80s style porn and they totally misfired. The clothes are all wrong, the hair is wrong, everything is wrong.

    Oh, and it’s a show for teenage girls.

  • butter nut

    she was clearly dressed by someone who was both not alive during the 1980s, nor has ever been to new york city.  this is what a costume designer wishes a barbie version of Carrie dressed like in the past.

  • schadenfreudelicious

    as someone who was in their early 20’s in 1984, i can assure you NO ONE dressed like that, it’s an insult to the fashion of the era and that is saying something given it was pretty damn hideous even when portrayed accurately! 🙂

  • Cautiously Pessimistic

    Weirdly, this is related to one of the things I appreciated about the first episode of “The Americans” (haven’t watched the second, but it’s waiting on my DVR).  It’s set in 1981, but they’re not trying to hit you over the head with the 1981-ness of it all, especially with the clothes.  The 80s are too close in cultural memory to be costume drama, and trying to pull out the most distinctive features of 80s fashion tends to end like this, with a whole lot of tacky.

    So the clothes in “The Americans” are really uninteresting, but sometimes that’s preferable to the hot mess in these pictures.  (Well, except for the sheer number of leather jackets being worn.)  Although the jacket and the velcro shoes on the guy in the third picture are dead on.  😉

    • insertcleverbit

       I think the Americans is doing a good job of the 80s wear.  Plus that show is AMAZING.  I’d love to see a T-Lo review.

      • Cautiously Pessimistic

        Having seen the second episode now, I concur that it’s pretty amazing.  It’s strange because you know that in less than a decade the USSR will be no more, yet that’s actually heightening the dramatic urgency.

        I’d love to see a TLo review as well.  And not just because I have a minor obsession with the Cold War and want a place to talk about this show.  😉

  • Dot

    I generally hate anything related to Sex and the City and this ensemble is nowhere close to being anything even approaching historically accurate fashion, but I must say that I love her skirt and shoes.

  • I totally love that.

  • I actually look at this and see Gossip Girl, and not a wit of Sex and the City or Carrie Bradshaw, so I have no desire to see it.
    Also, AnnaSophia Robb has none of SJP’s charm or interest, and just strikes me as very smug and annoying. For one thing, I’m surprised they picked a girl with a tiny snub nose when Carrie in one episode makes a point of noting her nose as an insecurity (and SJP being pretty in an interesting unconventional way rather than this very traditionally pretty girl I see here). I also more pictured Carrie going through an exceedingly awkward, maybe even shy adolescence rather than being a glamourous teen debutante. 
    This also looks a little too off-the-rack new; I feel like Carrie would have had a more eclectic, even thriftier wardrobe as a teen.

    But maybe I’m projecting my own awkward, thrift-shopping adolescence onto Carrie. 

    The casting still bothers me though. AnnaSophia Robb just seems annoying, maybe because she was Violet Beauregarde in the recent Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. 

  • drae27

    I saw them filming this one day in NYC. I didn’t know anything about and asked some bystanders what it was and when they said it was set in the 80’s I started moaning and complaining because nothing that I saw was reading 80’s. Even the cars parked on the street. It was some weird combo of 70’s, 40’s and now, with girls in heavy wool jackets and hats like that^. Some guys on the street had to tell me to relax.

  • Allyson Wells

    Why are the costume designers so far off?? I was nearly born in 84, so I can’t speak first-hand on the fashion, but you’d think the people working on this show would have come a little closer than “dumb, crazy, awkward girl in an ’80s teen comedy” since Carrie was supposed to be considered cool for a high schooler. I read the book and have been watching the show… it’s cute and somewhat entertaining. Although there isn’t much of it that makes me think of Carrie or SATC, but maybe that’s not the point.

  • Little_Olive

    Its 80’s-style 2010’s clothes, not really 80s clothes. Don’t love it. 

    And I suppose Carrie grew a nose in her late 20s?


    I watched one episode, too awful to watch again.  They are basically just retooling the story to fit a younger “Carrie” even though one of the major points of the SATC series was the evolution of Carrie and her style.  And, everyone who was ever a SATC fan know, Carrie had no siblings and her father left her & her mother when she was four or five.

    • Anathema_Device

      Thank you. This was my thought, too ( that Carrie was growing and evolving while in New York City as an adult). But as I said in my post, I didn’t watch enough episodes to really understand the backstory.

  • filmcricket

    I mean, this happens with all period pieces. My mother used to say Jan was the only one in “Grease” who looked remotely like she was from the 50s. Diane Keaton’s hair in “The Godfather” is ridiculous for the 40s (hair is usually where they screw up the most, actually – even “Mad Men” doesn’t get the hair totally right). But this looks like they’re not even trying.

  • BayTampaBay

    I was in college in 1984 and no one, I repeat NO ONE!, dressed like this.  

    I remember (FYI: I attended college in the South) that fashionable dressing was still fairly preppy but moving toward the “power suit” look.

    • Nancy Dunn

      Yes, either preppy, with colored khakis, alligator shirts (also known as Lacoste) and Docksides or duck shoes. The fancy girls wore Gloria Vanderbilt and Jordache jeans, boots with the jeans tucked in, gold necklaces – gold was cheap back then! For dress up, we had short, frilly cotton skirts, cotton shirts, Candie shoes. Loved my Candie shoes!!

  • A. Valera

    I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for TV shows — and even some movies — to get the 80s right.   This makes me cranky! That’s almost as bad as how terribly un-50s the women on Happy Days looked.  

  • Anathema_Device

    This is definitely a modern take on ’80s style. I turned 20 in1984, so I remember the younger styles pretty well. For the quirky girls, it was all about thrift and vintage. Repro wasn’t as big of thing back then.

    I am one of the rare women who, with the exception of a couple of episodes, didn’t watch SATC (busy/exhausted with little ones and didn’t watch much TV at all). And this new show certainly isn’t my cuppa. Curious to hear what other BKs think. It hasn’t blipped on my 14 yo daughter’s radar yet.

  • I read the books and have been watching the show. It’s very cute, in the most juvenile sense of the word. Which makes sense, seeing how the books were written for tween-aged girls. Still, I think the show is fun and I it seems to be finding its footing as it goes along. The book was the same way. I keep waiting for references to Sex and the City, but this is a whole new re-imagining of the story.

    On that note, being a fan of the show, the accuracy of the fashion doesn’t bother me. Sure, I was born in ’83 so I don’t remember much of the fashion from experience, but even though it’s set in the 80s, it’s not Mad Men. I think the fashion is fun. And as a late-20s gay man who is still in love with SatC, I think The Carrie Diaries is doing a pretty decent job entertaining old and new fans of the SatC canon. Way better than Sex and the City 2 was.

    • Adriana_Paula

      Well, if you’re going to bring up Sex and the City 2 (shudder)…though I think it’s interesting that SATC2 had an 80s flashback scene, and Carrie was in a Flashdance-esque sweatshirt.  The flashback was ridiculous, but more fashion-accurate than this.

  • BrooklynBomber

    I don’t remember Anthropologie being around in the ’80s.

  • SignLadyB

    Okay, granted the style (especially this one) is totally out of line. I agree with the poster that said the stylist(s) for the show could have so easily referenced any of John Hughes’ movies from the ’80s. But let’s not blame Anna Sophia. And, yes I watched I think the first two as a favor to Anna Sophia’s grandma, whom I know, and I’m sorry AS got roped into such a poor showing for her TV debut. On screen (Winn Dixie, Bridge to Terabithia especially) she is an accomplished actress. Hope the series tanks so AS can go to college and continue her career on stage and good movies. And no, I was never a Sex in the City fan.

  • I’m enjoying the show in many ways. They’ve taken Carrie’s voice from her adult years and done a solid job of infusing it into the Carrie Diaries scripts in a way that’s appropriate for a teenager. Carrie’s friends are likeable (even when being, well, teenagers), and the family drama is believable. What’s happening with Carrie in Manhattan isn’t entirely believable, although I’m willing to suspend my disbelief and enjoy it. Definitely some wish fulfillment there – but then again, wasn’t SATC?

    What IS driving me nuts is the music. They’re using a lot of ’80s stuff, but I don’t think they’re sticking to 1984 and before. I haven’t researched it, but it feels like they’re hopping all over the decade.

    Also, I’m not sure about Carrie being 17 in 1984. Didn’t she party at the Limelight? I thought she was older.

    • 4JJ

      I thought one episode has her describing when she arrived in NYC to live in 1986. I believe she said she was 21 or 22, which would make the new series dates off by a couple of years. If we could time Samantha’s 50th we’d know Carrie’s age, since they have noted more than once that there’s a decade between them.

  • The guy in the background holding a paper map is a nice touch.  That’s a throwback.

  • The jacket is the wrong shape, and I have my doubts about the print of the skirt, having been a 20 year old in the 80’s and having sewn some of my own clothes.  But those polka dot pumps are right on. 

  • sweet_potato

    I was a teen in 1984 and I remember a lot of dropped waists, ruffles, mini skirts, puffy sleeves, baggy pleated pants, oxfords and either skinny or wide belts.  I never wore anything like this. And the high heeled shoes we’ve seen on the show, shoes weren’t that high back then. Just sayin’.

    • kschwarting

      I was just into my teens that year too, and I remember a lot of white and black mixed with neon, along with the ruffles, mini skirts and other atrocities you’ve already mentioned.

    • CT14

      She should be wearing jellies.

  • ThaliaMenninger

    All they had to do was watch Square Pegs to see what Carrie Bradshaw looked like in the 80s. In terms of SJP at that age, I mean. For wardrobe, they needed to pick one of the popular kids (anorexic Tracy Nelson, for example) instead of SJP, but still… The show is sitting there, full of 80s wardrobe. Which did not look like this. And neither did Sarah Jessica Parker.

  • Pants_are_a_must

    I can’t with this. She looks like a toddler in a tiara.

  • tired_mommy

    I was in highschool in 1984 and think for this show they needed to select a more specific style for her (which could evolve)–ie. preppy (early 80’s), new wave, Madonna-inspired, etc. 

  • Zippypie

    The costume designer obviously wasn’t alive in the 1980s in NYC.  What a hot mess.

  • JCWL

    I know that nothing she is wearing is ‘right’ for the time period, but we are talking Carrie Bradshaw here… she wears whatever the hell she wants!  As someone who lived in NYC during the SATC time period, nothing she wore from 98-04 was ‘right on trend’ for that time either. Yes, she set a lot trends, but was also WAY off with some of her more ridiculous get ups.  And NOBODY could get away with those outfits but her.  A lot of women tried and failed miserably. 

    Her crazy fashion sense had to start somewhere, right?  Why not when she was a teenager??

    • AmeliaEve

       It’s not even whether this is in or out — you could not have purchased that skirt or jacket in the 1980s. I remember having to buy a new winter coat because my gorgeous vintage coat was too small in the shoulders to fit all my giant shoulder-padded sweaters and jackets under it.

  • I graduated HS in 82 and college in 86.  Trust me the only thing they got right was the spiral perm hair.

  • It’s so deliberate. Nothing about the costuming feels natural, it’s just desperately trying to ape SJP but in the 80’s. And wrong.

  • rahrahbowbow

    I have in fact seen the show…  Interesting to kill time, but not particularly fascinating…  And “Carrie” is kinda blah…  Not particularly exciting at all…  And while the outfit doesn’t strike me as horrible (I think it looks like a modern teen’s take on 80s fashion…), most of the show is pretty tame in the fashion sense.  Except Carrie’s horrible sweater collection…  Of which I may have owned one or two quite similar…


  • kimmeister

    Yes, they’re totally anachronistic, but the jacket and hat are really cute.

  • Cousin_Rose

    I like it except for the skirt which is ridiculous. The scarf is gorgeous and I want it.

  • KayEmWhy

    She looks more like a young Samantha in the first photo. The only thing they got right is the pin on the coat.

  • ballerinawithagun

    I had my hair long and permed on one side, almost shaved off on the other side. My Fiorucci “Love” boots (plastic fantastic) were my favorite accessory. Loved Cindy Lauper. I’ve saved (can’t part with it) a Betsey Johnson stretch dress with a full skirt, in black with gigantic hot pink cherries and neon green leaves. I had lots of wild tights, plaids and stripes. Girls just wanna have fun.

    • AmeliaEve

       Oh god, Fiorucci!

  • I was prepared to hate the show, but I absolutely love it. AnnaSophia is adorable in it.

  • mhleta

    I lived in the West Village in 1984 when I was in my early mid-20s and I remember the clothing well. This is not it. Big, slouchy jackets often purloined from the Salvation army and black everything. Black tights, EG Smith slouchy socks with Reeboks hightops and an over-sized something on the top. This outfit would have gotten you permanently shunned from hip clubs like Area and The Milk Bar. Having said that, I think this outfit is really fun and her stylist must be having a ball dressing up this cute girl as a life sized Skipper doll. So, I agree with TLo that the proportions are totally wrong, but not about the tights. That was a thing, then. 

  • Renaissance_Man_ATL

    You should definitely check out this show!  I’m a 52  year old gay man who lived through and enjoyed the crazy ’80’s and I think the show is great.  They really use some of the best music of the era and capture the desire and longing to move to the “big city” so many of us experienced, while making it palatable to today’s target teen/young adult audience.  I watched the first episode expecting it to be really bad and I wouldn’t need to bother with watching again.  Wrong!  I immediately set a season pass for it.  Plus there’s some HOT boys, one a gay character.  (Sebastian and Walt). 

  • It’s a cute show.  I was around in the 80s too and blanch when i see pictures of my hair (Fran Drescher territory) and some of my outfits.

  • If it was 1984, I would have worn that jacket. But the skirt is too long and navy is just wrong for the tights – and I would have gone with a flat bootie for the shoe. Of course, I once had a gas station attendant ask if I was wearing a costume (which I wasn’t). I liked to dress a little crazy.

  • I know the scarf is wrong, I don’t remember anyone wearing pashmina scarves like that in the 80’s, unless Carrie’s character is WAY ahead of her time.

  • libraangel

    Never seen the show, don’t want to. Sounds dumb as s*&t. And this is definitely NOT an 80’s look, but a cuckoo Sarah JP look

  • The music makes me want to watch it, but I haven’t worked up the nerve. This looks like a less-tailored version of things I currently wear, soooo yeah. 🙂

  • elemspbee

    Yes, watching it and surprisingly enjoying it. that anna sophia robb is adorbs.

  • Cold Fire

    I was born in 89 so no memories of the 80s, but I am a very big fan of 80s soul music and None of my soul singers dressed this way. Young or old….The 80s are my favorite decade behind the 50s fashion wise bc ladies were gaudy and elegant again. I loved the real fashion of the 80s. Loved it! 

  • RocknRollmom

    Those are 2012 Kate Spade shoes.  No one wore anything like those in the 80’s.  And as others have noted, coat, hat, and scarf all wrong. 

  • Lisa M. (ReVoir) Kramp

    What kind of crack do these stylists going for the ’80s’ look smoke, anyway? I was a baby Carrie wannabe in 1984 (too poor). The only things correct about that look are the neon colors, the wool coat (but the shape is wrong), the shoe shape and the beret. The spiral perm and the crinolines are circa 1992 darlings, at least in the midwest.

  • Rand Ortega

    I think this more how 20-somethings today envision how teens looked in the ’80’s instead of how we actually dressed. Maybe somebody in the costume department needs to watch “Square Pegs” or “Valley Girl” or “Fast Times At Ridgemont HIgh”. Or just google “Denise Huxtable”.

  • 46 year-old here. And I was in New York during this period. And no, I’m so sorry but NOBODY dressed like this. This is such a ass-backwards view of how people dressed in the 80s. It’s like what we 20 year-olds in the 80s thought people in the 60s dressed like. I get that maybe this is more palatable for the demographic, but “real” baby Carrie would be decked out in items from lower Broadway – Canal St. Flea Market, Unique, Canal Jean, the works (ooh, and maybe Merry Go-Round!).

  • Yes! I remember so well those stirrup pants. And worn with an oxford, lots of costume jewelry and flats or low-heeled pumps.
    Oh God, the paper bag pants…. I had a pair of those.

  • librarygrrl64

    1. She looks NOTHING like SJP (and, therefore, Carrie) looked at that age.
    2. The plot seems to completely ignore the Carrie backstory that was set up in SATC.
    3. I lived through 80s “fashion” once. I refuse to do so again.

    • librarygrrl64

      Also, in 1984 I was in college, and that’s when a good number of college and high school girls started haunting vintage stores and flea markets, and when you could really get some primo stuff CHEAP because vintage wasn’t mainstream at all. That’s what I pictured the 80s version of Carrie doing, based on her style as an adult.

      • Yep, she would do vintage. At that time (in college too) we were looking in thrift shops in good areas to try to get vintage looking designer stuff cheap. I question the whole idea of this show. If you watched SATC, you know that Carrie was a mess through most of it and you were hoping she would figure it all out. To see her 20 years before (knowing that she will be a mess for 20 + years), just makes me sad.

  • Sarah Thomas

    Total Kimmy Gibbler.

  • Looks more like baby Samantha to me. Her face is NOTHING like SJP’s, much more Kim Cattrall.

  • jayetyler

    On the shoes– I owned a pair shaped exactly like that in 1983, when I was 12-13, except they were black patent leather. But they were kitten heels & pointed toes. And I hated them, called them “witches shoes.
    And they were not what the popular kids wore or anything I would have picked out (mom bought them).  The jacket/tights/tulle/tam/scarf are all kinds of wrong for the decade.

    The hair is only right if you add in some massive bangs– 1/2 curled up at least several inches & 1/2 curled down (at least where I grew up). And there’s no way the bangs would be hiding under a hat.

  • maggiemaybe

    We may have dressed a little silly back in ’84 but we never looked this hideous. No, really.

  • looks like she’s stuffed into that jacket so tight she can’t breathe. 

  • RebeccaKW

    Yes.  Thank you!

  • LOL.

  • suzq

    I don’t recall jackets being that nipped at the waist.  Everything was slouchy.  In 1983, wouldn’t she have looked like Madonna?  EVERYONE LOOKED LIKE MADONNA IN 1983!

    • ThaliaMenninger

       Desperately Seeking Susan era Madonna. You are SO right.

    • bd73

      i don’t think so. i was 10 in ’83 and Madonna was just coming out. we didn’t even realize she was white when “holiday” hit the radio. and madonna’s early look didn’t stray too far from people like the go-go’s. the early ’80s belonged as much to pat benatar, the disco holdovers, a lot of influences. that’s why all the ’80s teen flicks highlighted the various high school groups.

  • snarkykitten

    Seems like the folks behind the show have the same impression I do of the 80s: big hair and bold colors.  But I have the excuse of only being 2 years old when the Berlin Wall came down

  • She looks more like a young Samantha.

  • My son used that skirt fabric to make a backpack in home ec last year. It’s straight from Joanne’s clearance aisle.

  • ccm800

    An african american girl would look more like SJB in her younger years. Come on. A little veracity. 

  • Julie Parr

    I remember a lot of WHITE stockings being very popular in 1984, when I was a junior in high school. 

  • I really want to see her wearing Candees, because there was that one episode of Sex and the City where somebody says they knew Carrie back when she considered Candees the height of fashion.

  • barbarienne

     Jeezum crow. That’s not even Flashdance-inspired. Those college girls must have gotten their impression of the 80s from Olivia Newton John’s “Physical” video.

    You would think with the dozens and dozens of teen movies made in the 80s, people would have an easy time researching the looks.

  • lrhoff

    So wrong.  They should stop filming now.

  • barbarienne

    Those giant buttons make her look like a character from Robot Chicken.

  • Amy

    It’s a very similar format to SATC and of course, some of the stereotypical characters. The twist, of course, is that they are young. (Anything they talk about is far more tame). She is pretty good and for a younger demographic, I think it’s a really cute show. And of course it’s ripe with good 80’s music!

  • bd73

    this is a caricature of the ’80s. i can’t support that crack about navy tights. i had a vast array of colored stocking then. used to buy them twelve to a box. but no one’s neon was this bright. i’m not sure about that print. it’s in the spirit of the era, but it feels like too much. i remember having a blouse with geometric shapes and swirls and zigzags on an aqua background, a bea arthur-type aqua jacket with those shirttail sides that are higher on the front and curve down to mid-thigh. rolled up sleeves, lots of pink shoes, powder blue, stars and moons cut outs, deck shoes, topsiders, espadrilles, woven sandals and flats.

    the first ep didn’t feel like the ’80s to me. the asian friend had a bedspread that you can buy on pbteen right now. no one had a pompom covered duvet in the ’80s. the problem is that doesn’t feel like an evolution to the fully-expressed carrie of satc. it’s a different concept of her, but it’s still jarring. it feels like this carrie should be more a la andy in “pretty in pink.” very experimental and always sewing, developing her style. thinking about watching tv back then, i used to always be impressed by tv kids’ wardrobes. they always had a pair of shoes and an overcoat to match every outfit. even the “rich” kids i knew didn’t have it that good.

    so, i guess we have to remember this show is supposed to combine those elements of being a trend setter with being a fairy tale of the ’80s and of new york. tough job. (and that jacket confuses me. there was definitely a neo-victorian trend in the ’80s  – see designing women – but i don’t remember it in outerwear for juniors.)

  • neofashionista

    Your “candy colored homeless person” line is fantastic and is a great way to explain MOST of her clothing
    I watch the show and I find her Anna Sophia lovely and endearing and the show silly cliched and very pat
    but still entertaining (if your in the right mood)
    A saturday afternoon will be perfect to speed watch it

  • jmoss1

    I’ve watched it and I was a teenager in 1984. I love it. ;o)

  • Scarlet39

    Graduated high school in 87, and this does not read 80s to me at all.

  • tylka5

    I have watched the first 2 episodes and the show is not terrible, it just skews young.  It’s a teen show. Could be a good rainy afternoon, wine extravaganza.

  • AmeliaEve

    I graduated from college and moved to New York in 1982. It was not like this.

    Coincidentally, last night I watched The Hunger (1983 vampire movie) with some girlfriends. THAT was total grown-up 80s fashion. Catherine Deneuve, David Bowie, Susan Sarandon, and Bauhaus, all in cool grays and blues with sharp touches of red. Sleek lines and crazy haircuts. And a good deal of 1980s New York in the background. Graffiti! Checker cabs! Pay phones! Cigarettes everywhere!

  • Unless everyone on the show has ESPRIT in giant letters all over everything they own, it ain’t the 80s.  

  • glennethph

    The show is surprisingly cute.  80s Carrie has more self-esteem than her much older version, and here she’s a starry-eyed NYC obsessed teen.

  • BrightsideSusan

    I was in my fashionable years in the 80’s – but I went the preppy route.   I didn’t know this was on – I’ll have to record it and check it out.

  • NYCGlamourpuss

    I’ll tell ya what – I was 20 in 1984, and I hit all the neon trends back then, and even I wouldn’t have worn any of this together! A little goes a long way – you used the neon as an accent, not head to fucking toe!  So yes – as a 20 year old who used to wear neon, even I would have recognized – in 1984 – that this would have totally qualified as “trying too hard”.

  • I saw the show…it’s for 12 year olds.  And I watch almost everything on the CW.

  • u love the show, and i watch it. BUT, the fashion is ALL WRONG.

  • kathrineb

    This actress does not even vaguely resemble Carrie at all (in terms of physical characteristics/face) and this outfit does not look like its from 1984. 

  • Marcella

    We watched the first episode and that was enough for us.  It wasn’t sharp and witty at all like the original.  Very disappointing.  As for the clothes (and I graduated high school in ’83 so I was there people) these clothes are today’s clothing trying to be paired together to look like the ’80’s.  The shapes and fabrics are just wrong, wrong, wrong.

  • quiltrx

    I sort of took it as an homage to SJP’s ‘Square Pegs’ days.

    And I wish I were young enough to wear that skirt and not look like a jackass.

  • cmb92191

    As a teenager in 1984, I will say this is all wrong.  The jacket would be considered “old lady” or a “church jacket”.  The navy tights are totally wrong.  Shoes are cute but not right with all that color mess.  She is a walking cliche of the 80s

  • Crystal

    HOT. MESS. What is with the hat? What is that? 

  • shelley514

    NO, high schoolers in the 80s did not dress this way.  Especially fashion forward teen 80s girls, which is what we are to believe was descriptive of Carrie Bradshaw circa 1982.  Show producers and wardrobe need to rethink the costuming for the show.  YES Cyndi Lauper was big in ’82 but girls weren’t really dressing like her just yet and even so, they Cyn had more style than babyCarrie is rocking in this ‘fit.

  • Freema Agyeman’s wardrobe on that show has had me in spasms.

  • Alyssa

    I read the Fug Girls recaps of it…that’s my only plan as of now. I do love that skirt.