PR All Stars: Be All That You Can Be, Bitches!

Posted on January 04, 2013

We don’t really mind it all that much, but nothing says “reality show with many seasons under its belt” than wacky staging. Did we need to be on an aircraft carrier? Not really.

 

We have to give everyone involved some credit; first, for coming up with a worthy twist on the “real woman” challenge, and second, for not tying this in somehow to Lifetime Television’s “Army Wives,” which seemed a near-certainty to us when we first heard the challenge.

 

 

Joshua

So congrats to Josh! No real complaints here. One might be tempted to opine that they gave the win to the designer with the client most likely to evoke sympathy and warm feelings (she comes with a cute dog accessory, after all). We both think there was a better, more fashionable-looking dress on the runway last night, but this represented Josh toning down his natural impulses and actually serving his client’s needs while producing something she looks good in. Like the judges, we would have preferred a dress, rather than seperates, but there’s a lot here to like, from the dyed leopard skin (and the restrained use of it) to the little, sassy strip of sheer near the hem. No, we may quibble over it and think someone else’s was better, but this was clearly a very good job done by Josh.

We apologize for subjecting you to dog anus so early in the day, darlings.

 

Uli

This, of course, is the dress that we both thought more worthy of a win than Josh’s. But Uli didn’t really push herself in any way and her client seemed to have no real needs or desires built in to her. She just wanted an Uli dress like the dress Uli herself was wearing. That’s fine, but Josh had a client who had certain needs, which means the difficulty setting on his dress was a little higher than Uli’s. She technically made a better, more stylish dress, but she could’ve done this one in her sleep.

 

Emilio

Disgraceful. You have to be awfully cocky to believe you can make a dress out of scraps with virtually no time on the clock. And hey, guess what? You wind up with a dress that looks like it was made out of scraps in under a half hour. We probably would have been fine with an Emilio Schmauf, but …

 

Anthony

This was an obvious and clear loser of a dress. There is absolutely no defending this dress, which is what makes the judges’ frantic attempts to do so such an embarrasment for all involved; Isaac especially. So focused was he on what the producers were telling him to say that he didn’t even think to question the line, “This is a young, chic, fresh dress.” Oh ISAAC. PLEASE. Have some dignity. We thought it was painful earlier in the season when you asked Anthony Ryan, “What makes you so good?!?” But this is a new low for your dignity, hon.

We can all joke that Isaac clearly wants to get into Anthony Ryan’s hammer pants, but the fact of the matter is, Isaac is simply doing what he’s told and it’s very obvious that the producers have wanted Anthony Ryan in the finals all along.

Like we said last week, we feel bad for ragging on AR so much because we don’t think he’s a bad guy or a bad designer. He’s just this year’s Anya; an embarrassingly over-praised contestant who’s probably going to win it because that’s who the producers settled on very early in the game.

But truly; that sack is one of the most hideous things we’ve seen on the show in quite some time.

 

[Photo Credit: David Russell for Lifetime - Stills: tomandlorenzo.com]

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    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      mkay, So, when I’m wrong I admit it. I was certain last night in the lounge that Josh would be going home.  Well, boyo managed to actually serve it up hot and delicious last evening. Emilio’s effort was appalling, and Anthony could not have configured a less flattering look for his client if he had tried.  It was eye searingly awful to look at.  Regardless of how, “young’ they claimed it to be. it looked dowdy, ill fitted and made her look enormous, which she was not. 

      • EveEve

        And for those who didn’t watch the episode or follow along in the Lounge:  Nobody was sent home last night. Everybody was a winner, and got a pony!  There was no way the producers were going to sent AR home, despite that heinous embarrassment of a dress. And he obviously knew that.

        • Kayceed

          I think that was the worst part – at no point (as far as we know) did he question his garment, design, etc. He seemed to know that he would do just fine.

          • libraangel

            You are right – I never thought of it, but AR never looked panicked or worried or anything. Does this really mean the show IS scripted?!

            • Lisa_Cop

              Just heard a podcast interview with a former reality show producer. These shows are not only scripted but have “story editors” and acting coaches. Apparently contestants get an early draft script each day, saying what storyline will be emphasized, what drama highlighted. And then directors ask for multiple takes and sit beneath counters (or hidden somewhere) giving more acting instructions.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               A lot of that depends on the show, I’m sure. 

            • berkeleygirl

              Second that… The one show that I sense holds on to a modicum of integrity is Top Chef.  Like all of them, it’s caved some to the personality thing, but it mostly still seems to depend on the last dish.  In fact, the latest episode backs that up.  From what I’ve heard, Colicchio is adamant about this.  At the same time, I do know that they take multiple takes, specifically at the start of challenges.

              Survivor, on the other hand, is another story.  Each contestant is usually even given a wardrobe before the show starts.

            • e jerry powell

              Lisa Whelchel was under-costumed, then.  We all know she’s freaking Blair Warner, and Blair Warner is what we expected!

            • BigShamu

              Bhhahahhahahahahahhahah.  Top Chef…integrity….snort.  See Season Two Head Shaving Incident.

            • http://twitter.com/CaitrinofFenris Caitrin

              I think PR went down that route for sure (regular PR, that is) on Season 8 when it became Lord of the Flies with Michael Costello as Piggie, and all drama from then on has felt very scripted. I think some of it was real, I just believe they tightened the screws in particular with this group until they almost had Michael on the spit. I think that’s why Tim Gunn has stopped seeming to care in the sense that he doesn’t talk all that much about the show at the end nearly as much as he used to. Especially, ESPECIALLY about Anya. Google it. You can hardly find a comment about her winning that doesn’t come across as what he is contractually obliged to say, and that’s all. Nothing about the fact that she looked hand picked, etc. I personally feel that Anya was to keep Heidi from walking since they went over her head about Gretchen. Well, that’s my conspiracy. 

        • allcapsERINN

          Oh WOW – nobody went home??? I fell asleep about 10 minutes before it ended and am lacking the motivation to watch it on DVR. THAT’S SO IRRITATING. That dress was HORRIBLE. She hates her boobs so he magnifies them by 10????? Ugh, I’m disgusted by the injustice of it all. They just made me use way too many question marks before noon. Why do I keep watching this show? WHY WHY WHY?

          • editrixie

            You can do it, Erinn, you can walk away, really. I kept saying that to myself for the past three years, and I did walk away. Now I just read the recaps here and what everyone’s saying, and it seems to satisfy me enough. And I say this as someone who can never give up TV shows no matter how bad they get. I watched all 9 seasons of X-Files!

            • Derek_anny

              I forgot to catch the first two weeks it was on.  Then Wendy was auffed, and was like, “eh, nevermind.”  Haven’t regretted it.  I’ll watch the next real season, but I knew what we were getting with this group.

        • mommyca

           thank you!!! i didn’t watch or could read all the comments, so you save me time :-) that sack from Anthony is definitely disgraceful…

          • annieanne

            The most pathetic part of the whole episode was how much the judges HATED AR’s design (with the exception of Isaac bending over) during the judging, while only being mildly critical of Emilios - then ended up making Emilio the loser.
            If they’re going to script the results they should bloody well edit the judges comments to agree with the scripting. D’oh!!

        • Lisa_Cop

          Of course he knew! What I’m curious about is did AR just get lazy and make an unexpectedly ugly dress or did the producers “want” something hideous (and Isaac to vehemently defend it) so they could generate this heated discussion.

          • libraangel

            A-ha! I didn’t see this on the credits – that the producers and Lifetime had “input” – explains many things!

          • quiltrx

            Does it REALLY say that?  That explains a shit-ton of dumb shit the last several seasons.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             They’ve always had that disclaimer, that the producers have a say.

        • SapphoPoet

          Thanks for clarifying. I didn’t watch and wasn’t in the lounge and it wasn’t clear to me what had happened. What, exactly, was the challenge?

        • briecee

          Ah, thanks for the clarification.  TLo is my only remaining connection to the PR family of fiascos, so I was wondering.

      • BeeBeauNYC

         I agree with you. I thought for sure this episode was just going to be a formality in which Josh was sent home. Maybe the producers thought that as well and then BOOM Josh brings it. I would have had no issue sending Anthony Ryan home for that dress, which also seemed to be an obvious choice to Katie and Carmen, but I guess the producers freaked out at the idea of sending AR home. But what I don’t get is that the premise behind a reality TV competition is that there’s a chance that the person who you think is in the lead stumbles and gets eliminated. It’s not supposed to be an expected result. If the ultimate goal is ratings (and advertising $$), you would think a major elimination would get more people to tune in! My brain hurts.

        • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

          And the really ridiculous thing is, if that HAD happened, they would have had real drama, instead of manufactured drama. Real is always more compelling.

        • Celandine1

          It’s totally in the realm of PR’s fluid rule book to keep a designer in the finale who bombed the last challenge but was generally well liked and won a bunch of challenges during the season (Michael Knight, season 3). The crap spewing out of Isaac’s mouth was egregious. That dress AR made, however, is definitely in the top 5 of most offensive ever made on PR.

          • CozyCat

            The worst for me was (IIRC) the point where the Beautiful Georgina was trying to talk about how unflattering AR’s dress was, and Isaac cut her off and said he didn’t care because it was such a great dress.  (or I think that’s what happened–it was hard to hear what they were saying at times over my screaming at the TV)
            It was SO insuling to the client, like saying that if she didn’t look good in AR’s brilliant design, it was her fault!

        • GretaChristina

          So is anyone else wondering: Did the producers/ judges decide ahead of time that all four contestants would go to the finals? Or did they plan to dump Joshua, couldn’t quite manage it because he actually made a nice outfit this week, and then decide to do the predictable “twist” (I called it, btw, Ingrid will confirm) and have all four contestants get ponies, because they knew AR deserved to be sent home for that dreck but that wasn’t in the script?

          I’m voting for the latter. But I guess we’ll never know. Unless someone behind the scenes spills it.

          And I know I’m echoing what many have said already, but I can’t not say it: The judges should be ashamed of themselves. After that pathetic spectacle of desperately trying to find something to praise in AR’s muumuu-with-a-belt, any respect I had for any of them has flown out the window… to a beautiful, beautiful land where people in the design industry have some integrity and some respect for the art form. PR used to be that land, at least a little bit. I used to tell people who didn’t get fashion to watch PR; I used to tell them that PR was the reality show worth watching, the reality show that seriously explored the creative process. Now I tell them to rent Season 4. I haz a sad.

          • adnama79

            I’m thinking they knew in advance, since they are taking them to Paris for the next episodes.  Seems like it’s been ages since they’ve had fewer than 4 do a finale runway show.

            Still, even if they were planning to do 4, AR should have gone home anyway.  And I like him.  But that mess was elimination material if ever there was one.

        • CT14

          One day you’re in, the next day you’re out, right?

          • Girl_With_a_Pearl

            Now it’s one day you’re in and the next day you’re still in even though you don’t deserve to be there.

        • Why_do_I_even_watch_this_show

           The irony is that I don’t remember loving Anthony Ryan that much on his season or even anything he designed.  Maybe they had to pay him or promise him the win to get him to return?  I also assume that when it comes to Emilio’s eventual sack, the judges will say something like, “Oh, but, you’re already so established…”

      • Stubenville

        And I completely agreed with you. 

      • http://twitter.com/madscntst Ernie Guzman

        All Anthony Ryan’s dress needed was the viking helmet and a spear and she would be all set to sing Wagner’s Brunhilde.

        • annieanne

          What he said.

        • elikit

          HA! So true. She did not have to look that bad and he did her so wrong.

          • Kathy Schrenk

            Even her hair was terrible!

      • tessasouthworth

        While I’m neither an Anthony nor an Emilio hater per se, I agree with the majority that both of these guys’ dresses were horrendous. What would have been really refreshing for me to hear would have been an elimination of them BOTH for foisting these atrocities on these women. Now THAT would have been a REAL PR/PRAS first. It wouldn’t have been difficult to come up with some entertaining filler for the extra week, and think of the respect and credibility  the judges and producers would have gained for acting outside the box.

      • Miranda Prince

        I agree. When she walked out, the first words out of my mouth were, “I hate what he did to her boobs!” I agree with Georgina: that dress makes me very cross.

        • CrazyAuntie

          Yes!!  I’m built like AR’s model – and what he made for her is exactly the style I WOULDN’T wear.  Disgraceful.  AR deserved to go home, because he’s yet another designer who can only dress a woman who’s 5’11 & weighs 100 lbs. I’m disgusted!

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U6HG7ZMBO4D772LQQ52GI6UHUY ElsaRox!

            I agree 100% and I am also built like AR’s client. Altho I don’t hide my chest as she likes to do, I don’t exactly purposely showcase them, either. I’d NEVER wear that. I’ve only liked, maybe, 1 dress that he’s sent down the runway this season, and not much more than that in his own season. Any one of my cats could design better than him.

    • http://twitter.com/foodycatAlicia foodycatAlicia

      Does the dog’s harness match the leopard print on the runway? If so, bonus points for awesome!

      • MilaXX

         Josh made it to coordinate with the dress. I have to give him credit, he shines in the real world challenges. I am always surprised that he can retrain himself enough to met the clients needs.

        • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

           Maybe what’s going on for him is that he needs to have the more rigid constraints of working directly with a client in order to tone down his esthetic to a manageable level.  When he has someone saying what they like and don’t like, he works with it, which is admirable.

          • minnye

            And he’s really nice to his clients. People were talking about Ivy’s attempt at image rehab this time around, but Josh has succeeded in doing so IMO. I couldn’t stand him in his season and find myself actually liking him now.

            • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

               I’m not fond of his design aesthetic, but I will absolutely credit him for being infinitely more pleasant and approachable than in his PR season.  He has actually managed to have nice things to say to, and about nearly everyone.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              It has been a relief to see somewhat less bitchy snark from Josh, and to see that he can work well with a client.

              OMG-did I actually write something mildly pleasant about Josh? I must repair to the couch!

            • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

               you keep this up and you may have to change your screen name to niceyniceynicey

            • libraangel

              Do you think it was that there were “nicer” (well, Ivy – but even she seems to have reformed to being kinder) people that Josh was with this time? Uli is very kind and calm.

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

              Maybe because he saw how he looked during his season (Me! Me! It’s all about ME!!!!) and it provided him with a wake-up call? I totally agree about his aesthetic but he really does have an ability to work with the client – even during his season he won the ‘real woman’ challenge. I think it keeps him from designing things that he would wear if he was a woman -which is how he designs most of the time. 

              Plus, I liked how he poked a little fun at himself by referencing DADT and saying “They wouldn’t even have to ask”.

            • http://twitter.com/lisledanielle Danielle Lisle

              I totally agree with his image rehab. Every time he opened his mouth on his season I wanted to throw something at the TV. He’s really turned it around, and wasn’t obvious about it like Ivy was.

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y3OY6COEVBS2STNCUNIRZ3COUE Claudia

              I was thinking something similar.  I didn’t really mind him in his season; I know boys like him and they love their drama, but when they showed all the designers having their little confabs with the client Josh was far and away the most personable.

            • WhiteOprah

              I remember being struck by how kind Josh was in the “Real Woman” challenge in his 1st season.  Honestly, before that if I had been asked who would have risen to the occasion best and tried to make his model feel fabulous my answer would have been “Not Josh”.  He’s shown on both occasions that working with “Real” women is his forte which will stand him in good stead in the industry.  I truly hope that as he matures as a designer that he recognizes that making more “Mainstream” as opposed to FASHION is where his real strength lies.  

          • MilaXX

            That’s what I think. I know he want to be big name designer, but one on one is where he shines.

          • Indigo54

             Josh wears clown clothes.  Make-up’s clownish too.  Nobody can be rude and obnoxious while wearing clown gear.  Maybe I should…..nah… not worth it. 

            • libraangel

              And AR doesn’t wear clown gear? I don’t know what you mean?

            • libraangel

              p.s. what’s wrong with clown make-up, etc? Just being yourself is o.k.

            • Indigo54

               Absolutely!  What I call clown clothes Josh may call something else.  I figure since he’s not around to hear me, I can call Josh’s outfits whatever I want.  But I don’t mean to put them down.  He wears bright colors and big floral prints, big shoes and thick eyebrows, etc.  Real clowns wear that stuff too – just more of it. 
               
              Maybe I should just shut the hell up. 

            • libraangel

              o.k. I get it. Truce?

            • Indigo54

               Yeah, truce bay-beeeee!!!  Guess what I did?   Just bought myself a big bird yellow sweatshirt and a pretty scarf on sale.  Got some red lipstick too.  Gonna wear both to work tomorrow, I swear!!! Sick and tired of being afraid to wear bright colors!

            • libraangel

              YOU GO GIRL

            • Indigo54

               There’s nothing “wrong” with it.  I’m saying it’s a good thing.  How come you didn’t get that? 

        • WhiteOprah

          ITA.  He suspends his bitchy persona for the “Real Woman” challenges and is kind, considerate, empathetic and a joy to watch.   I wonder if that’s his real personality coming through when he’s not dealing with a competitor and doing the whole “I came here to win, not make friends” schtick?  I certainly hope it is.  

          • MilaXX

            I’m beginning to wonder. Either that or he needs to boundaries to help him reign in his taste issues.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              There have been a number of designers on PR who have demonstrated that when they had definite parameters for a challenge that they were much more successful -MIchael Knight was one, and I think that Chris Palu from last season was another one who needed guidelines .

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             Some of it may be (because there is nothing that I love more than playing Monday morning shrink…) that he doesn’t feel as judged in the Real Woman challenge.  Because the most important part is to make the client feel good, not to win over the judges, since if your client hates it, the judges won’t reward it. 

            The pressure of judging is really tough on some people, especially if you come out really young.

            • Indigo54

               Yeah, could be.  I just think he really loves his brother.   Josh wanted to do his brother and his client proud.  And he certainly did.  His client was beaming as she walked the runway. 

            • Elaine Lang

               And, IIRC, he was really lovely to his client in the “Real Woman” challenge during his own season as well, even when he was insufferable to everyone else.   He’s very charming to customers, and, yes, I think their real-world taste and practicality serves to remind him to edit.   He could probably be quite successful doing custom work for a variety of wealthy women.   He always seems to leave the clients feeling so pretty and happy, which would serve him well in that realm.

            • CozyCat

              Or he would be a good assistant designer in some big name’s shop.  Then he could do his wacky stuff on the side for himself and his friends and earn his living in an environment where he had someone else putting boundaries on his work.

          • sk8tfan

            I can’t believe I am typing these words, but I found Josh to be utterly charming, empathetic, and sensitive. Apparently pigs are flying in droves today.

          • BostonBuddha

            I thought it was really poignant that, when Joshua was asked about his military brother’s view of him and his work, his brief silence and carefully chosen words that followed made it clear that his brother has not been very supportive of Josh, despite Josh’s obvious pride in his brother.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=571205045 Kent Roby

           The dog’s name is Isaac, which seemed to really please judge Isaac.  He (the judge, not the dog) even made a cute comment that he (the dog, not the judge) should have been dressed in something even more fabulous to suit his name!   :)

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

         It uses the leopard print undyed with some green and black edging to tie it to the dress. Nicely done.

        • http://twitter.com/foodycatAlicia foodycatAlicia

          That’s so sweet!

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

           And I loved that he went with leopard in green and black.  With the shape of the spots and the color combo, it’s vaguely reminiscent of camo:)

      • Lilithcat

        I have to say that the minute I saw the service dog, I knew that whichever designer was paired with that vet would do something for the dog as well.  Because, if they didn’t, the judges would notice and comment.  On top of which, the “accessory” challenge from Season 3 had to be in their minds.  (Looking it up, I see that Ulli won that one, so you know she would have decorated the dog!)

    • http://profiles.google.com/padawansguide Maggie *

      You didn’t mention the fact that “surprise!” – there was no one getting the boot tonight. It really fits in with your AR win theory. Because he should be going home for that dress.  But because they wanted an AR win, they couldn’t do that, so no one goes home.  It really is Anya all over again . Anya loses her money, bam.  Everyone gets more money.  AR makes a terrible, unflattering dress (with little design to it), and bam, no one goes home so he stays.  Ugh.

      • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

         Too, too true. (sighing heavily)

        • mini_d

           Agreed. I thought the exact same thing last night. That dress was hiddy.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            AR’s client looks so uncomfortable in that dress, and that makes the overpraising of it even worse. 

            • Indigo54

               Isaac the dog could see that AR’s dress was all wrong for his client!  She looked as inflated as a bunch of helium balloon in that sack.  I felt so embarrassed for her. Isaac the designer should be ashamed of himself.  How many times has he criticized a designer this season for making the model look bigger than she is?  At least twice that I remember.   But he has no problem with AR’s tent of a dress.  Shameless!

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I felt sad for AR’s client because you can tell that she is not liking the way she looks or feels in that mess of a dress. Even allowing for the judges’ restraint in front of the clients on the runway, I don’t think that a woman wants to be patronized or lied to when she knows, in her heart, that she doesn’t look good.

            • roadtrip1000

               She looked better in the air force tee shirt she initially wore. Way, way better.

      • Violina23

        I’ve always shared TLo’s opinion that I don’t have anything AGAINST Anthony Ryan, and I think he deserved SOME of his compliments (I agreed with his win last week, I really thought it was a great, commercial-ready dress).  But when he basically did EXACTLY what his client BEGGED him not to do, and it looked awful to boot, I predicted the judges would acknowledge the failure, but find a way to keep him based on his prior praise (deserved or not).

        So when I saw them fall all over it?  Wow. Just Wow. I don’t even have words that weren’t already said.  

        (And I’m a very busty, full-figured woman, so the pain was even greater…)

        • Lisa_Cop

          My jaw dropped when I heard them praising AR’s dress. Even my husband (who watched the runway portion) commented on how awful yhe dress was and how it made his model look enormous. And even Georgina said the dress made her “cross”. Katie Holmes and Carmen Marc Valvo said they preferred Emilio’s dress to AR and, with Georgina, looked ready to send AR home. Isaac’s irrational defense of that dress was unbelievable. I’ve lost all respect for him. And this show is so clearly scripted it’s become a joke.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            The shameless overpraising and promotion of AR during this season of AllStars tells me that Lifetime has succeeded in pushing the series way, way, way, way over the shark.  I don’t dislike the guy;he seems amiable enough, and has some talent, but B/M and Lifetime appear to have decided that an AR win will please their viewers no matter what he sends down the runway.

        • Indigo54

           Shoot, I wish I had those big bazoomas!  And she wanted to hide them?!  Flatties like us can’t do anything short of surgery to make ourselves look busty and AR went and threw his client’s boobs in our faces like that!! It’s not fair. 

          • Violina23

            I’m a D/DD and I always go for minimizers  because my big chest makes me feel self-conscious (like that’s all anyone will see) and I like a more simple/classy style that bouncing melons just don’t complement. I just want them to stay in place, and for the love of GOD, I wish I could wear a button-down shirt!  What AR’s dress did to that poor veteran is what a good 2/3 of clothing I try on do to me.  The last thing I want to do is look like Anna Nicole Smith.

            I guess we always want what we can’t have! :-P

            • BuffaloBarbara

              A button-down shirt?  :scratches head: Yes, yes, I recall wearing one sometime in sixth grade or so.  Not since!

              But I don’t mind giving the girls a little spotlight, especially on special occasions.

            • Violina23

              yeah, I’m speaking more about career wear. I make do, but it’s hard to find stuff that doesn’t pull or pucker in funny & distracting ways. I’ve personally never felt comfortable in anything where the girls are exposed, but I love things that give them a nice flattering shape: like the difference between how they dress Christina Hendricks in Mad Man vs. her red carpet appearances. I prefer the more subdued sexy boobs if that makes sense. :-)

            • BuffaloBarbara

              Ah, yes.  I don’t work in a formal office atmosphere, but yes, plung necklines are bad for that.  A nice scoop-neck T in a solid color, though, seems to work all right for me.  It’d be nice to have some properly fitted jackets, though, and I would kill for some nice ’50s style sweater sets… if they just made them long enough for my crazy long waist. Everything’s too short.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               You want what my sister-in-law refers to as “business hot”, makes total sense. 

            • http://twitter.com/LAMusing LAMusing

              I too would love a button down that fit!!  The button over the bust always pulls and gaps, but if I go up a few sizes to fit well in the bust, the rest hangs like a shapeless sack!  Basically my breasts wear 2 sizes larger than the rest of me :P   I found a company that custom makes shirts to your measurements – it’s mainly for large busted women.  Fabulous!  Uh… except the shirts were something like $250 each.  For a basic shirt.  Not gonna work on my income.

            • Violina23

              Yes, that’s exactly my problem!  Custom shirts sound lovely, but alas, not in my budget either. :P

          • http://twitter.com/WholeLottaJulie Julie Elder

            Mine are enormous enough that I don’t even bother trying to hide them. The key is making sure I still show my waist…and not by tying a shoelace around me!

        • GretaChristina

          “I predicted the judges would acknowledge the failure, but find a way to keep him based on his prior praise (deserved or not).

          “So when I saw them fall all over it?  Wow. Just Wow. I don’t even have words that weren’t already said.”I know, right? It would have been one thing if they’d said, “Yeah, you dumped it this week,” and then found some way to keep him anyway. It wouldn’t have been great, but it would have been better than what they did. But their ridiculously contorted attempts to find something to praise in that sad, lumpy, ill-fitting sack just tore it.

        • fashionzombie

          AR didn’t just make his client’s breasts look enormous — he made them look unattractive. Droopy. LOAFY. And then compounded the problem by obscuring the rest of her body. For all I know, she has a full set of tentacles wrapped around her midsection, and twelve legs. Who would be able to tell?

      • mike__tv

        Yes Ar’s sucked. HOWEVER, I don’t think it’s fair for someone to go home so late in the game on a real women/please client challenge. They should have done this earlier on in the season. However I stopped caring about who gets the shmauf and who gets the win a long time ago. Uli is in my mind the most talented and the most versatile designer, so I kind of want her to win.

         I do hope that the finale is a normal runway and not a weird 3 week design shitty clothes finale, I don’t want to hear the phrase “Considering how little time they had…” or ” Imagine what X could have done with more time” Because then I have to imagine what the collection would look like with more time instead of just seeing good clothes. 

    • flamingjune

      AR’s is a garbage bag held up by athletic bandages.  His client deserved better. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

         To be fair his client has issues with her present body form- if he had given her a flattering dress that showed some cleavage she probably wouldn’t have liked it.

        • JosephLamour

          At least it would have looked good.

          • WhiteOprah

            For real.  Her sweats and T-shirt were more flattering.  I don’t know how she could be comfortable in a dress that made her look at least 2 sizes bigger.  Maybe she was just trying to be polite?  

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

               I think she’s one of those women who just wants to cover up, and that satisfied her.

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

              Ack! I just matched up the runway ladies to the Intrepid lineup. AR’s client looks so much thinner on the Intrepid in the sweats/tee. For shame, AR! She should head on over to Drag U for some dress-up fun. Even RuPaul knows how to dress a non-stick-sized lady.

        • EditKitten

          Here’s the thing — you don’t have to show cleavage for it to be flattering. As a curvy girl with fabulous(ly large) ta-tas, there are lots of things you can do that don’t make your boobs look like a deflating Hindenburg.

          • Kayceed

            Yes – a really expansive decolletage – without cleavage – is certainly possible and very flattering.

          • belfebe

            Absolutely.  I think that a wrap dress, in the Diane Von Fustenberg style would have looked like gangbusters on her.  And BTW, AR needs to watch a marathon of What not to Wear.  He’d learn something from that.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               When in doubt, a wrap dress looks good on pretty much everyone.

        • flamingjune

          I think I’m coming from a different perspective here–There are flattering dresses that don’t show cleavage.  Cleavage does not equal flattering.  As Georgina pointed out, AR’s client wanted to hide her chest, but AR’s design called your attention directly to it, and in a very unflattering way. 

        • alyce1213

          He could have given her a flattering dress that didn’t show any cleavage. The minute she said yes to strapless, after saying how she wanted to be covered up, I knew there’d be a problem.

        • MilaXX

           If he knew anything about 1)how to talk to clients, and 2)how to dress anyone that’s not a model, he could have discussed ways to de-emphasize  large breast. I can think of several ways beyond showing cleavage that would have solved that issue. AR wasn’t even in the ballpark.

        • snich11

          It wouldn’t have needed cleavage to be flattering.

        • Lisa_Cop

          But AR’s dress made her breasts look huge and, like Katie Holmes said, that’s immediately where your eyes went.

        • libraangel

          How about a nice V neckline with cap sleeves? A tiny bit of cleavage, but coverage.

          • libraangel

            p.s. And no ribbon belt/Empire waist to draw attention to the bust.

        • GretaChristina

          He didn’t have to show off her cleavage. He could have given her something architectural, with some structure, that kept her breasts covered while giving her an hourglass shape. She has a beautiful body. It sucks that he failed her so badly.

          • WhiteOprah

            Esssaaaackly!  Think of Christina Hendricks’ costumes on Mad Men.  She never shows cleavage and still looks like a bombshell.  

      • snich11

        Yes! That is why I feel so angry about this…he did a great disservice to this lady (and was praised for it!). She really did deserve better.

    • Jangle57

      I swear Anthony Ryan could send a model out nude and Isaac would fall all over himself praising AR’s new take on minimalism.  That potato sack of a dress was a new low even for PR and to praise it was a truly ‘jumping the shark’ worthy moment.  What a joke.

      • http://visceralresponse.com Dina dV

        I think my favorite comment from Isaac’s tapdancing was when he explicitly admitted it was not a flattering dress on the client, but then backtracked it and barked at Georgina that SHE wouldn’t make so ugly and unflattering a dress but maybe that’s not the kind of designer blessed Tiny Tim…I mean, Anthony Ryan is.

        Takes a bold person to say flat out “it’s an unflattering dress” and still praise the designer for making it.

        • EditKitten

          Seriously, what the fuck was that moment about? Did he basically just say, “You make clothes that flatter, but *I* am not the designer who makes flattering clothes”? ‘Cause that does not make me want to buy Isaac Mizrahi.

          • cam_lo

             That moment was about Isaac saying “I cannot bear to part with Anthony Ryan and so I will not have this.” Plain and simple. TLo’s observation above is very accurate; I don’t think it’s all the producers telling him what to do. Isaac loves him. I mean, so do I, and I’m in the minority on this board…but I get it.

          • formerlyAnon

             I’d say it was totally about what the producer was screaming in his ear (over the ear pieces they all wear during the judging.)

            • Lisa_Cop

              Yup, left ear. Even Joanna wears one (and if they shoot from the wrong angle you see it)

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               To be fair, they’d all wear them even if the producers weren’t interfering in any judging or advising — they have to be able to get camera angles that will work, and they don’t (in theory) get multiple takes to do it.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             It comes down to the fact that there seem to be two types of designers: those who want to make the woman look good and those who want the woman to make the clothes look good.  Apparently, in Isaac’s mind, Georgina is the first (those who should be employed) and AR is the second (those who should find a new and exciting career in the service industry, maybe behind a bar or carrying an order pad…)

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          A bold person, or someone who has totally sold his soul….take your pick.

        • ampg

          I think my favorite part was when he told AR that, OK, maybe his dress didn’t really work on his client, but he clearly became friends with her and was trying to give her what she wanted, so that made up for it.

          • http://visceralresponse.com Dina dV

            That had me howling with laughter.  So, it’s okay to make her look awful because they were friends. Like the whole point of the exercise was so that the poor woman could be uplifted by AR’s beautiful spirit. Even if the dress was hideous, and dammit, she should proudly wear that ugly tent because AR’s darling little fingers made it for her.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              So AR is such a special, unique, precious snowflake that anything he does is praiseworthy….
              Geez, PR just sank into “Precious Moments” territory….

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               I bet they weren’t friends anymore after she tried on the final dress…

          • annieanne

            And given that EVERY SINGLE American female has exquisite taste in fashion, the job of the designer is to do EXACTLY what the client wants with no editing or judgement required on the part of the designer? Kinda downgrades your job to seamstress doesn’t it Isaac?

        • Indigo54

           Love makes us do foolish things sometimes.  I’m trying very hard to be patient with poor, lovesick Isaac but he really tested my patience last night.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Perhaps Lifetime should be developing a mini-series of “Cocktails with AR and Isaac” where they can just drink and dish about whatever they want to.  It would certainly be less irritating than the producers’ heavyhanded manipulation of PR: AlsoRans.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               I would watch that… I bet they’d be adorable.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I think both Isaac and AR would have fun with that format, and I’d probably put it on my guilty pleasures watch list.

            • libraangel

              I would watch it just for the curiosity factor, but I think I would feel nauseous afterwards.

    • 3boysful

      Spot-on analysis.  In the light of day, I am finding what bugs me about AR’s entry, almost as much as the horrible uni-boob, is the way the white straps contrast against the black edging.  Especially from the rear–it looks like she is trying it on over a sports bra.  Hiddy.

      Like I said last night, might as well show the producers in the auf-ing discussion, because that’s who was calling all the shots.  AR is a fine designer, but if we are playing by any rules, then the one bad dress should’ve taken him down.  Lifetime owes his client a nice shot of her in a pretty dress (not THAT one) at her party during the finale.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H3XBSNN3JLZWI4R2EPZ2BQYT5U Suzanne S

        Good point about the back of the dress-I had seen nothing prior to the runway ‘show’-when that woman came out, I was thinking “Did he even TRY to dress her figure?”-I could not look away from the bad proportions and all around unflattering nature of that thing, the straps ALSO made her look broader on top (to my untrained eye, they were the wrong width, in the worst possible place, and angled in the worst possible way, in addition to the dress being ‘the Hefty bag of doom’). I didn’t even notice that ‘dress over sports bra’ effect you mention until now. There are a million styles (many of them hanging in my closet!) of dress that would have made that woman feel so beautiful and she would have looked divine.  

      • muzan-e

        Sports bra. Thank you. It was bugging me all last night: the white fabric looked so crude and utilitarian and I couldn’t quite work out why. That’s what it is. You just can’t put wide white straps over a woman’s shoulders like that unless you embellish them with something so that they can become decorative instead of so obviously useful.

      • Lilithcat

        I am finding what bugs me about AR’s entry .  .  .  is the way the white straps contrast against the black edging.  

        Yes!  If he was going to make straps, why not use the same fabric as the dress?  They looked so last-minute.

        • MoHub

           The straps also needed to be set broadly at the shoulders. That halter line made her look bigger and droopier.

      • http://profiles.google.com/padawansguide Maggie *

         This.  You called it with the sports bra.

        And yes, AR is a fine designer. I don’t dislike him at all. But yeah, by the rules, one bad dress and you’re out.  We’ve seen nice and talented designers go for one mistake before. Why should AR be above that?  They need to stop picking a winner and then scripting the show around that.  It’s getting more and more transparent.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FBVC5LBEOWEHBYYCH3A2IZGZHI yahoo-FBVC5LBEOWEHBYYCH3A2IZGZHI

          Not that it wasn’t transparent during the Anya season.  But now the producers have done it repeatedly, so we’re used to it.  And factor the manipulation into our comments.  So now that the producers know that we know, I wonder if they’ll do anything about it.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             I know… my mother FINALLY started watching after years of me prattling on about the show.  When did she decide to do this?  S8… she’s never seen the good designers:(

      • GretaChristina

         “…the way the white straps contrast against the black edging.  Especially
        from the rear–it looks like she is trying it on over a sports bra.”

        Hell to the yes. And they didn’t even fit right. They kept puckering. They looked exactly like what they were: an afterthought, tacked on to try to make a bad idea suck marginally less.

    • http://twitter.com/BobbiNJ Bobbi

      Anthony Ryan should have been ashamed of himself doing that to his model. That dress was hideous and highlighted precisely what she wanted to camouflage! I bet anything she never put that thing on her body again. What an embarassment! Even worse for the judges that defended it and actually pretended there was some merit to it! He should have been kicked off, with as hard a kick as possible! 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H3XBSNN3JLZWI4R2EPZ2BQYT5U Suzanne S

        agree wholeheatedly

    • GorgeousThings

      It says something about how far this show has fallen that I didn’t even realize I had missed it until I saw your post. 

      • mjude

        its sad isnt it?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Cleary/1201575213 Patrick Cleary

      This is actually turning out to be the most watchable season of PR, just because the blatant producer manipulation is getting worse and worse. It’s a farce, and it seems as though almost everyone is in on the fact that it’s a farce and not a contest of skills and vision. Watching Isaac turning himself inside-out to praise a dress that is ugly, makes the wearer look horrible, and is frankly badly-sewn is just plain amusing. They must pay him better than Target did.

      • ampg

        My favorite reality show ever is “DC Cupcake,” partly because I live in the DC area, but mainly because it’s so obviously scripted and they don’t even try to hide it.  It makes the show completely hilarious.

      • WhiteOprah

        Do you think that has anything to do with Michael Kors not coming back?  Maybe he couldn’t live with himself giving the win to Anya and decided to pack it in.  

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

           Supposedly it was just a scheduling problem — the two seasons were shot back to back and he needed to work on his own stuff. 

          Which does give me a measure of hope, because if they show at FW for the finale like the non All-Stars seasons normally do, that would mean they had to give them enough time to put together a decent collection.

          • WhiteOprah

            Maybe I’m trying too hard to regain some respect for MK after that Anya fiasco.  ;)  I do hope they give the designers more time for the final collections.  I want to be wowed by what they can do when they have the benefit of more time- not what they can slap together at a moment’s notice.  (But I guess that’s what I want more of in all of the challenges.)  

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

          Couldn’t live with himself giving the win to Anya?  How about Gretchen?  Michael Kors single-handedly overrode Heidi and Jessica Simpson’s vote to give the win to Gretchen.  That was ten times worse than Anya’s win, since at least Anya’s clothes were pretty.  PR should have insisted MK leave the show just to appease the fans after that fiasco.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            As much as I disliked Gretchen’s win, I would take her over Anya, granny pants and all, andthat pains me.
            Anya’s win was a joke. I agree that there is a market for Anya’s type of fashion, but her final collection included dresses in which the prints were badly mismatched and that simply should not have been acceptable for anyone who is trying to get their foot in the door of the fashion industry.

            • libraangel

              I agree, because Anya NEVER made a pair of pants, or even I think separates with sleeves – ONLY those caftans – for almost every challenge, except for one, which she dismally failed in (can’t remember – it was shorts or something) and should have auf’ed.

            • MoHub

              She attempted to make a jumpsuit. It was pitiful, but she got praise for making her first pants.

            • CozyCat

              I think the difference is that Gretchen deserved to be in the finals, but not to win.  Anya should have been eliminated early for not having the skills to really do anything. 

              My personal theory about Anya is that she was deciding what to do with her post pageant life, and decided to do fashion, perhaps as a stylist. Being on TV would help, so she did a crash course in sewing to get on the show. Then the producers fell in love with her “storyline” and pushed her thru to the win.

            • GretaChristina

              My issue with Gretchen’s win isn’t so much that she was a horrible designer. It’s that Mondo was so clearly so much better. They kept gassing on about how Gretchen’s hippie-boho-with-money aesthetic was so cutting edge and “on trend” (please, I’ve see those clothes in Berkeley and Marin for years)… and yet what are we seeing everywhere now? Mixed prints. Gretchen made some nice clothes; Mondo is a visionary.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I remember that when I looked at the final collections online that Gretchen’s clothes were just….there, while Mondo’s put a big smile on my face and just made me happy.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              It wouldn’t surprise me at all if your take on Anya was right. The producers, and Heidi especially just loved that storyline of “I just started sewing FOUR MONTHS AGO”(repeat as needed/ad nauseam).

          • WhiteOprah

            While I was not a fan of Gretchen’s aesthetic, I do think she was much more worthy of the win than Anya.  At least Gretchen could construct a variety of silhouettes.  Anya made a bunch of sleeveless caftans, with extremely plunging necklines.  What really went beyond the pale was that the judges praised Anya for it while they raked Uli over the coals for doing a beachy aesthetic.  (Which Uli did waaaayyyy better.)  The only “Constructed” garments in Anya’s final collection were the garments that Bert made.    

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               I could (and did) make a case for Gretchen’s win.  I didn’t like it and I didn’t agree with it, but I could see some of the judges’ points. 

              I just can’t do that with Anya.  At all. 

          • http://twitter.com/Alloyjane Alloy Jane

            Are you kidding?  Can you imagine any of those home improvement shows hiring a foreman who’d never even put up drywall?  That’s what Anya being on PR was.  Her win was a slap to skilled craftsmen everywhere.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              For me Anya’s win was a big FU to every talented designer who had appeared on previous seasons of the show for the reason you stated.

            • libraangel

              i agree

    • Magpi

      Even though Anthony’s client wanted to be ‘hidden’, as a designer he should be able to figure out that adding layers of fabric make women look bigger.  It isn’t rocket science.

      • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

        And placing a series of arcing pleats right on top of the area your client most wants to dismiss is about as ill-considered as anything could possibly be.  Plus, if you are diminishing the apparent volume up top, you don’t put the DARK end of the ombre there.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

           Actually Joanna Coles said that putting the dark end up there was the RIGHT thing to do.

          • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

             I would have to disagree with her in this instance. Sometimes the eye is drawn to, not away from the darker color, especially when that dark space in the design is given as much structure and emphasis as AR gave it last night.  Ultimately, it was a poor textile choice and a hideous design. It was basically a pleated mu mu with a side slit.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               The dark end has visual weight — while dark colors to reflect more light and therefore visually increase, when you’re looking at this particular ombre on this particular fabric, the dark end just seems more “there” while the light at the bottom is floating and not drawing the eye. 

              I couldn’t believe the way he attached those straps.  Yeah, let’s make the straps look tiny at the point we’re attaching them to her bust.  Because it’s not going to make it look wider by comparison or anything… I think he maybe needs to worry about more with his eyes than mere color-blindness.

            • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

               Plus, if you are committed, as he was, to a strapless bodice, in particular with a woman with as much up top as she has, you must create an immobile, firm understructure from which to allow the remainder of the garment to suspend.  He clearly either did not have enough time for it, or just did it wrong, since the whole top kept sagging, which wasn’t helping matters one bit.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              He was committed and didn’t care what his client, wanted, or looked good in. 

            • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

               Well, she had specifically requested strapless.  which was a bad choice on her part.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               Like I said, I didn’t see it yet, just checking the stills.  But why not tell her that strapless doesn’t generally work well to minimize a bust?

            • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

               He could have, and should have.

            • libraangel

              They compromised with those silly straps which just made everything worse!

            • BeccaGo

              Strapless was not the best style choice, no, but it can be done. At least in a more flattering way than he chose. You need at least *some* structure, and maybe a stiffer material to “hold her in” better.

            • alyce1213

              A very bad choice, but I’m pretty sure he prompted her to strapless and she said yes.

            • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

               He did suggest it, and she did say yes.  Bad choices on both sides.

            • MoHub

               But a sweetheart neckline would at least have worked better than that straight-across line he made.

            • GretaChristina

              Yes, she requested strapless. But it was his job to tell her that strapless was a bad, bad idea.

            • http://twitter.com/TorrinPaige Heather

               Even Josh realized that -I remember him asking AR something like “You’re going to bone it, right?” and it seemed AR said yes and that he had some sort of thicker fabric as well to help make it structured. Yet I couldn’t see where he used any boning at all -or if he did, it was not nearly enough.

            • libraangel

              I HATE AR’s dress, but to be fair, they had less than a day to complete it.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               THEN HE NEEDED TO TELL HER THAT!!!!  He never said to her, “I can’t make you a strapless that fits well and supports you enough in the time I have.  I would love to, but I just can’t.”

            • 3boysful

               I’m with you.  It’s a little counter-intuitive.  Had the skirt been a wild print, then a darker bust might’ve worked.  But with all that white, we only see “BUST!” then “Oh, yeah, and a drab, blah skirt.”

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

               That’s unfortunate- I think that in many ways Joanna Coles is a better mentor than Tim Gunn.

          • TRSTL

            I agree what the basic concept joanna was stating, I have a smaller frame below and carry all my weight in my torso and sholders so I always go lighter on bottom, darker on top to balance.  the problem here is he added all that pleating and busyiness to the dark area.  That totally drew attention to it and made it seem alrger than it should have been.  The “darker to diminsh” rule only works if you keep it tailored and simple.  Leave your embellishments and focus pulling details to the lighter areas.

          • libraangel

            She is correct BUT AR put that awful LIGHT band of white on top of the dark bodice!

        • muzan-e

          The crowning achievement: adding a band right under her chest, so that there were two wide strips of fabric effectively bordering it.  It could only have been more effective and crude a way to draw attention if he’d stuck rhinestones on it afterwards.

          • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

            Hee hee.  How about matching rhinestone brooches on the nipples?

            • GretaChristina

              Or blinky LEDs. With tassels.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              I’m shuddering as I imagine Isaac screaming “Every woman in America will want nipple blinkies this season”!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • MilaXX

           Amem, the moment he pulled that fabric and started all “Oh woah is me, I got to build in support for boobs” and going on the erroneous assumption that darker colors make her smaller, we were doomed.

          • BeccaGo

            Ven Lite.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             Which begs the question: what support?  ‘Cause it clearly wasn’t successful.  Did he try to do one of the silly elastic panels that they try to claim are “built-in bras” in spaghetti strap tank tops? 

            • MilaXX

              looks like it. Again a designer familiar with a non model body would have either instructed her to wear a good strapless bra, or built in a true bra, not what essentially is a tube top.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               To be fair, even if she was wearing a good strapless, it might not have worked, not on a dress with that much total fabric — that’s a lot of weight for it to hold up.  (Also, sometimes clients don’t listen — I’ve had people show up for final fittings in dark bras that are supposed to go under thin white dresses after being told exactly what they needed.)

            • MilaXX

              true, then again I didn’t see AR approach her with any alternative ideas. Other designer who were no the judges pet have been aufed for giving the client exactly what they want when it made for such an ugly dress.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               Oh, that was in no way a defense of AR — I don’t care if she brought in a sketch of that exact dress and told him to make it, he should have known that any woman over a B cup does not want to go braless (okay, MOST women over a B cup) and that a strapless could not be made to function well in the time he had, even if she wanted her breasts emphasized.

    • Carrieanno

      With apologies to Dr. Seuss, my tiny little heart grew three sizes as I watched Josh with his client.  That lady was a real supermodel.

      • Billie_Dawn

        Maybe he mentioned this on the show (I was only half-listening), but I loved how Josh made no effort to try to hide the prosthetic. Certain other designers would have talked her into a floor-length dress inside of a second, but he saw that she was very proud of her role as a wounded warrior, and he wanted to highlight that. Snaps for him.

        • Carrieanno

          One of the judges asked her if she’d wanted her prosthetic visible and she replied that she definitely did.  At that point my admiration for her went through the roof. 

        • muzan-e

          That’s what got me. He wasn’t just allowing it to be exposed. He was making a point of it, and he was making it all beautiful. And he dressed the service dog. Damn. *g* Good for him. 

        • http://www.katymcdermott.com KatyMightHave

          One of the guest judges asked her about that, and she said she’d been very clear that she wanted to show it off – she was indeed proud of her wounded warrior status and survival story. That said, kudos to Josh for asking the question and respecting her answer.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             In fact, not only would a lot of designers tried to talk her into floor length, they would have assumed right away that she’d want it hidden.

            • formerlyAnon

              I give Josh as much credit for simply *listening* to the client here, as I do for the fact that the final result is good.  And his question was about something SHE would be the expert on.

              While AR asked his client about going strapless, he was suggesting something she could reasonably assume that *he* would be the expert on & I get the impression that she trusted him to execute it well. Apparently he didn’t know it would be trouble, especially if he couldn’t execute it flawlessly (that is, properly support and shape her breasts within the garment), so a fail for him.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               I think the fact he listened is WHY the result is good.  Most of the time, when designers fail at the RW challenge, it is because they did not listen to the client.  And not just their preferences for their clothes, but who they are as people.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Josh’s client sounds like a really, really fine woman-I’m blown away.

            • PaulaBerman

               And Josh showed real sensitivity and insight for understanding her needs and making the dress she really wanted and deserved. It was classy, cute, and lovely. Good for him for upending the narrative that I thought this episode would have, which was that Josh was going to let down this worthy client and home. He deserved the win.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               You know, I would love to meet Josh.  Because I think a lot of the crazy, bitchy drama thing is an act and the result of immaturity and fear.  I think there might be a really decent guy in there, based on how he’s handled both of his real woman clients.

    • hyperionic

      God Anthony Ryan’s is awful. But apparently the client herself asked for a strapless dress which was a terrible idea for all involved. Anthony Ryan clearly doesn’t have the technical skills to construct a bodice that would hold up her ample bosom. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

         Then it’s his job to tell her that.  I’ve had clients try to completely redesign pieces — and if they do it in a way that will be flattering, that’s fine — and have had to explain why the changes they’ve asked for are a bad idea.

        • formerlyAnon

           Exactly!

      • formerlyAnon

        I watched while working, so I may have missed something – but I thought he suggested it to her and she agreed. Which, as I said in another comment, makes it his fault in my mind – a client would assume that someone custom designing a dress for them would be qualified to know what would work within one’s stated criteria & body shape- and to explain the choices they were making if they weren’t going to meet the client’s requested parameters.

        The way a good hairdresser will explain why your hair just won’t do what the hair in the photo you bring in is doing.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

           The hair stylist comparison is spot on.  These women may be military, but you aren’t, you don’t have to take orders!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

      Emilio’s concept is good – I sincerely hope he gets to remake the dress before she wears it.
       

      • http://twitter.com/connectinglines Me Again

         That’s what I was thinking, too.  Emilio is actually a good designer if he’s not working with scraps of fabric, and that dress could have been so much better.  She deserves a great kicky little dress for her friend’s bachelorette party, and I hope Emilio takes a couple days to make it for her.  Because no way is she wearing that yellow piece of crap to Vegas.

    • DinaSews

      Ugh.  I almost vomited while Isaac was speaking and rolling his eyes at the other judges.  She wanted to hide her boobs and he highlighted them by banding them top and bottom giving her a huge uni-boob. Not even sure I can watch the last few episodes!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VHOI77V4SGK6ILP5Y4HZIFBEB4 JerryD

      Not only random aircraft-carrier staging, but Treidi was again miles away from the contestants. “Hellooooooooooo designers! Today you’ll be – I said, TODAY YOU’LL BE – “

    • bittersweet73

      As a busty woman I knew immediatly that AR dress was not going to work.  I have a lot of experience with figuring out what is and isn’t going to work on top.  It’s just embarassing and saying anything nice about it is even more embarassing.

      • TRSTL

        Agreed!  I think this same dress with a V neckline and more of a strong vertical line would have been miles better.  But all that gathering and strong horizontal across her bust was just awful!!

      • http://twitter.com/WholeLottaJulie Julie Elder

        When I was a little girl, I wrapped my Barbie dolls in tubes of fabric and belted them with yarn.

        In no way does AR’s dress show more design than what I gave Malibu PJ.

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          Your color choices were probably better, too!

      • Anathema_Device

        I was very surprised when the client said she wanted strapless. Anthony Ryan should have counseled her against that. But he was out of his depth dressing a woman with a large chest.

        • PaulaBerman

          This is the key point: of the four designers, AR is the only one who failed to flatter his client’s figure. Emilio’s was ill-fitted due to lack of time, but in theory it was a cute dress. There was no way in hell AR’s design could have worked no matter how much time he had, because apparently he does not know how to design with a woman who has a non-model body, or an actual bust. He did everything wrong, from fabric choice to the straps to the shape, with very little urge to self-correct. So much for designing for people with different body shapes, AR. The pathetic straps and the waist band just made the failure more obvious. He should have been auf and should have had to apologize to that woman. Too bad Isaac threw a tantrum and saved his bacon.
          ETA: usually when a designer is unable to fit a woman with a non-model shaped body, he is raked over the coals by the judges, but it was barely mentioned as a failing of his as a designer. Bleah.

    • http://twitter.com/ponybaloney213 AnnieN

      The dress that won looks cute and she looks happy with it. That said, all I can think about is how she is NEVER going to keep the dog hair off of it. 

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        True, but that’s why you keep a small lint roller in your purse.

    • MilaXX

      I think unless there is a designer who works with non models next year, I will be skipping the real woman challenge.  They just piss me off.

      • CozyCat

        I think part of the problem was the short time frame.  Uli’s dress was the only one that didn’t have fit issues.  And that makes sense:  they were not working with their usual models, and some of them had very specific measurement and fit issues.  Emilio had to start over because of a fit issue that couldn’t be fixed in time.  And AR’s monstrosity may have resulted, at least partially, from time constraints.  All of the best solutions to minimizing the bust would have required careful fitting, so he just did a dress that covered her up and could be completed on time.

        • MilaXX

          nope, the shape was wrong from jump

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GZETLYE67HA4WXILJ72I7UCCJY Jennifer

      Less than halfway in, when it was clear Josh wasn’t doing something hideous, I knew all 4 would go to the finals. It was just like the season when Jarelle suddenly made something great instead of tacky and they had to promote all 4.
      Also, I liked Josh’s dress, but I thought it was a very young silhouette and not exactly appropriate for that particular woman. Anyone else?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

         Maybe a little young for her, but a pleasant contrast to the uniform- but subdued enough in tone to blend into a military atmosphere. It went well with her coloring.

      • MaryMitch

        I think if the dress was just a bit longer, it would have been perfect.

      • Kayceed

        I really liked Josh’s dress, but I don’t think it was appropriate for a military formal event, where most ladies wear floor-length. Perhaps if it wasn’t separates, and if the material was more luxe – it looked like cotton to me.

        • batshitmomma

          floor length is more appropriate, but I think she mentioned something like it was an affair about wounded warriors and she wanted to proudly show her prosthetic. Good for her. I may may missed the whole statement as I was too distracted (as horrified as a DD) at AR’s uniboob.

          • Lilithcat

            I liked Joshua’s dress (at least, if it had been a dress).  But it didn’t say “formal”, and not merely because of the length.   It’s a great dress for going out to dinner or the theatre, but not for a formal event.  The cut and particularly the fabric were too casual.  

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               If it was for a military formal, and she wanted the prosthetic showing, it’d be pretty tough to find something flattering for HER that would work.

          • libraangel

            We weren’t sure if it was a formal event or a luncheon or..?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KCDEX4FOTCFHZP6WLKSOOKUVM Danielle

      Emilio’s dress was just terrible.  One of the judges said something about it looking home-sewn, which is an insult to home-sewers.

      • Carrieanno

        Yup, and hi def television wasn’t even needed to see that.  It was clear when Carolyn said “you have until the end of the day” to make the garments that at least one technical disaster was about to be produced.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      I wasn’t sure what the deal was with Emilio’s that he had to re-do the whole dress.  He said something about his model’s more petite frame, but wouldn’t that mean taking it in?  Shouldn’t that be easier than taking everything apart?  I was confused.

      I don’t get why AR would do what he did.  At some point in the workroom, he must have figured out the flowy goddess gown wasn’t working, and probably should have realized that before choosing that approach.  Also, black and gray for a 40th birthday party?  Only if it’s a gag party, where everyone is giving her geriatric supplies, and she’s in on the joke.

      Agree with your assessment on Uli v. Josh, as far as challenging goes.  Uli’s was beautiful and seemed to make her model happy.  I’m not even sure what the deal was with the “embellishment.”  I thought it was just straight up beautiful top to bottom.  But Josh’s really served the client’s needs and wants and was a cute, kicky outfit on top of it.  Plus, dog accessory.

      Isaac, when the actress on the panel is making more salient points, it’s time to examine your script.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H3XBSNN3JLZWI4R2EPZ2BQYT5U Suzanne S

      I missed everything but the runway last night-but I have no doubt that AR’s model looked FAR better in the clothes she came in with than that monstrosity. There was no defending it.  I was actually embarrassed for Isaac-yes, he may be doing ‘what he’s told’, but he does seem to have the hots for AR as well. Isaac pulled the diva card last night, BIGTIME over AR. My eyes rolled to the heavens when AR gave the talking head of (something like) “I must have a fairy dragmother, I was in the bottom, and no one ended up going home”. I’m thinking “You think that was just a happy coincidence? And BTW, your ‘fairy dragmother’ put on his special shoes and socks last night to catch your attention” (I only glimpsed them for a second, but something seemed terribly  wrong w/Isaac’s shoe/sock selection or the combination thereof). I would have been enraged had Emilio gone home (I had no idea of the constraints of the challenge other than the broad parameters they mentioned during the runway ‘show’), but the way he cut and sewed the back of that yellow dress was almost as much of a crime against that woman’s body as AR’s dress was to his model’s. Oh, Emilio. : /
      On a positive note, I do like that the judges tempered the comments w/diplomacy while the veterans were on stage, then spoke more frankly during deliberation. (We’ve seen in the past in the ‘real woman challenges’, some cruel comments like “You made your woman look short and wide-right in front of the women). I ~may~ watch the episode later to get some context on the challenge, but the runway really made me not want to watch the entire thing. 

      • ampg

        I appreciated the judges’ diplomacy in front of the women as well, especially since they all seemed reasonably happy with the results (I think Emilio’s woman might have been faking a bit, though – she seemed stylish enough to know how poorly the dress was made).  Especially since AR’s model was admittedly very insecure about her body, it was very good of them to be gentle while she was in the room.

      • libraangel

        This time, I seem to recall, the time restraints were even worse: finish it the same day as when Carolyn announced it. Doesn’t forgive the looks; just saying.

    • TRSmith

      I agree with everything said about the dresses, but perhaps Isaac’s and the other judges’ comments were intended to make the poor women NOT feel ugly? If they had said how hideous AR’s dress was, the woman might have taken it personally, as she is not a professional model.

      • muzan-e

        Absolutely. Every single one of them switched straight into “Lord, that’s some fug” mode once the women left the runway. Except for the fellow reading from the script.

    • barbiefish

      Thank you TLo for being unsparing in your comments on AR’s dress!  It is indeed one of the ugliest, most ill-conceived works ever produced on PR.  The Isaac tongue bath combined with that horrible dress — having witnessed both with a great deal of anger and invective — almost but not quite puts me off the show, but now I’ll have to admit I’m clearly a masochist to keep watching after this.

      • https://openid.aol.com/opaque/50253638-569b-11e2-9c91-000bcdcb471e carolclark12

        “Tongue bath” makes me laugh like Beavis and Butthead.  I feel so ashamed.

    • Judy_J

      As I looked again at these dresses, I couldn’t help but think how much better Uli’s dress would have looked on AR’s model.  That abomination he designed for her was an insult.  I hope to God she didn’t have to wear that sad sack to her 40th birthday party. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

      Pretty sure that the women would not have gone along with a tie-in for Army Wives.  Besides, I thought that show was cancelled already?

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I think that Lifetime ended that series after last season.

      • Lilithcat

        According to Wikipedia, the show will have a 7th season this year.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

           NOOOOO!!!! I was so happy thinking it was cancelled :( 

          (This particular show has very special meaning at our house)

    • Kayceed

      May all the saints in heaven save me, but when I saw AR’s dress, I wanted to kick his smug patootie. Really? REALLY? That poor lady. There were so many bad design choices in play here, the mind boggles. And Isaac needs to take a few more acting lessons to deliver more credibly the schlock he has been given to recite. Harumph.

    • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Tess Danesi

      Noting that the only lady smiling in any of the photo’s is Josh’s girl. I can sure as hell understand AR’s lady’s stiff face, she looks so bad in that dress with his stupid cockatoo hairstyle that I want to cry for her, but the others don’t look much happier. That said, it could be nerves since walking a runway must be pretty unnerving to non-models.

      Emilio’s dress pisses me off now that I see the stills. It was really poorly fitted and essentially a non-dress in that there was really nothing to it. Great color on her, but, damn, it need some freaking design.

      I think Katie Holmes commented that those straps would have been nicer if they were embellished as a way to add a jewelry feel. While that wouldn’t have saved that sad rag, at least it could have added a hint of festiveness to it. As it stands, it’s a sad, sooty, shroud and should have been schmaufed and schmaufed hard. 

      • BeccaGo

        I got the feeling that Uli’s client just didn’t smile much in general. Hardcore Marine. :)

        • swanpride

          I don’t know…Uli’s client has very broad shoulders, and having the same problem, I know that the last thing I would want is a dress, which actually emphasises said shoulders. Uli’s dress would have looked beatiful at the usual “no pound to much and less than no shoulder or bust” woman, but for this particular woman, it’s not the right one…she would look much better with something which doesn’t emphasis her shoulder over her breast, her legs aso. This dress emphasis the one thing about her body which isn’t particular feminine, but if you want to look your best, you normally want to emphasis your feminine side, even if you are actually a soldier. And she didn’t really look comfortable in the dress. To be fair, she didn’t give Uli much direction, but I don’t think the dress really took the character of the client into account at all.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H3XBSNN3JLZWI4R2EPZ2BQYT5U Suzanne S

        ~snort~ at ‘cockatoo hairstyle’. The bad hair was the first thing I noticed, until I saw the “dress”. He gave her ‘pseudo Anya hair’ I haven’t seen anyone successfully rock that look since the group “Bow Wow Wow” in the 1980s.

    • ampg

      I have to hand to you, TLo, you called this from the very beginning.  Of course they couldn’t kick off AR, because he needs to win the whole thing, and now he gets a great “underdog” story to boot.  I hope they’re paying Isaac dump trucks full of money, because he just trashed any and all of his tastemaker cred on national television.  I was hoping against hope for an Uli win, but now I feel like the finale will be just a waste of time.

      • Lisa_Cop

        I hope that anyone who watches HSN watched Isaac make himself look ridiculous.

    • nannypoo

      Anthony Ryan had a very pretty client to work with. But didn’t she say she wanted to minimize her boobs? Instead he made them look like a sack of potatoes. And that huge flowing skirt makes her look like she gained 30 pounds during the filming of the show. The only positive thing that can be said about his look is that her makeup is nice and enhances her beautiful face. I’m sure she will be able to find something a lot more attractive and flattering to wear to her special event.

      This was another case of Uli being robbed, but I was happy for Joshua that he finally won a challenge. I think a full skirt like that needs to be a little longer, but the hem treatment was interesting and pretty and the dress looked great on her.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

         She didn’t say minimize – she said “I’m a boob hider”. It seems she had body issues that overrode any desire to be fashionable- the weight is a recent gain after being immobilized after an injury and she’s obviously not used to it or comfortable with it at all. When she went for strapless I think she was mentally dressing her previous form.

        This doesn’t excuse AR, but he had a lot to deal with and it is to his credit that he didn’t say anything to insult her.

        • nannypoo

           She’s an average-sized woman with big boobs. Why would he say anything to insult her?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

             Nanny, think back to Venn & Olivier – designers can be quite unfeeling when dealing with women who aren’t the size and shape they usually deal with. The insult doesn’t even have to be intentional, but some people can come out with “I’ve never worked with a larger woman before”. At least in the edited version AR was very sweet to her.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H3XBSNN3JLZWI4R2EPZ2BQYT5U Suzanne S

        When you have the body type of ARs model, by the time you are into your 20s you avoid empire type waistline dresses, especially those that cut off right under the breasts and have a ‘line’. Empire dresses have been in fashion at least twice in my adult life-without exception, if I see one on the rack I think “My GOSH that thing would make me look ridiculously proportioned’ And as others have mentioned; the ombre type affect, the strapless/’straps’ debacle, and the yards of gathered fabric also were wrong choices.  To do a strapless dress (a flattering one) with a body type like that, requires VERY careful bra planning in addition to also making sure the top of the dress has some type of internal structure (side boning at the very least).(Note-I blame her for NONE of this disaster).  I missed the episode and the designer/model interactions, but I think of what Kayne or Anthony or Austin S may have done in this challenge, gently steering the client towards a flattering garment,  knowing she’d be so thrilled with the results, even though they maybe weren’t what she originally ‘asked for’. (I put in quotes because I have no idea what she asked for-but I’m quite sure it was not “Make the most unflattering thing you possibly could for me”

        • Lisa_Cop

          Yes, an empire is right when you want to minimize your stomach or hips. It’s often favored by pregnant women.

          • MoHub

             Not even that. I was my best friend’s matron of honor almost 40 years ago, and the gown had an Empire  waist with a scoop neck and layers and layers of chiffon on the skirt, which was gathered and pouffed right over the belly. I can’t tell you how many guests at the wedding asked me if I was pregnant.

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

              MoHub — agreed.  I had an empire dress that I absolutely loved until two different people assumed I was pregnant.  If you forget to really suck in your stomach, even a tiny tummy pooch looks enormous when it pokes through the front of a gathered empire dress.

            • MoHub

               I didn’t even have much of a belly. The gathering and layers of the fabric were doing all the “work.”

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               Apple shaped?  I have a couple friends who get downright violent if confronted with an empire waist for that same reason:)  Especially with all the gathers like that.

            • MoHub

               Not at all. I’m a true hourglass, but with narrow shoulders trying to support larger upper frontals (32D). Overall, I’m a small person—a current size 4—but I have a 12-inch difference between my waist and hips. The pregnancy effect came from the skirt having yards and yards and layers and layers of fabric that was gathered evenly all around instead of being gathered tighter at the back and hanging fairly straight in front. There was no way to tell how I was built under all that chiffon and taffeta as the dress had a life of its own. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

          Did you actually put Kayne in the same group with Anthony and Austin S?

    • Frank_821

      You nailed it about Josh and Uli

      Josh needs to focus on bespoke work.

      I was thinking this was work Uli could do in her sleep. actually I wondered if the producers asked her to wear 1 of her classic dresses to the ship. Think about it. did she wear this at all or anything like it during the season? regardless it was nice to see the old Uli. I will say looking at the still, the judges were right, the embellishment does look like an afterthought

      but the whole saving AR goes down as 1 of the biggest farces in PR history. Part of me feels a little bad for AR since he can probably see from the episodes how much easier they went on him. Also makes me wonder what was goign on in Uli’s mind since she went through this back in S3. At least she’s getting a return trip to Paris

      AR’s dress is even worse in the still. The movement is terrible at the bottom. Uli or Emilio could have done so much better with this woman. Isaac should be ashamed. Even Katie was being more honest.

      I have to agree with the post last night. If it wasn’t for Uli, I would have given up by now. 

      I will say that I do appreciate the judges waiting til after the women left before they stated what they really thoguht of each dress

      • Lilithcat

        I will say that I do appreciate the judges waiting til after the women left before they stated what they really thoguht of each dress.

        That struck me as well.  We’ve come to be so embarrassed for the “real women” models having to listen to their look being torn apart.  It was nice to see the judges keep their crits mild until their private discussion.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

           Well, maybe they realized that all of these women are specially trained in causing pain and damage to people so they should not upset them as much as normal.

      • BeccaGo

        Uli should have just pulled a dress out of her closet and spent the rest of the episode drinking in the lounge.

        • andcoh

          That would have been gold.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

             If the dress she was wearing had fit she should have handed it to her.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            Now I might have watched this episode that Uli had been tippling in the lounge, making droll comments!

    • TRSTL

      Anthony’s clients face says it all, doesn’t it? “I can’t believe that little BITCH put me in this sack of ombre shit!!”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H3XBSNN3JLZWI4R2EPZ2BQYT5U Suzanne S

        Post of the day!! 

    • mjude

      i was so pissed last night with the anthony ryan praise.  good god that dress was awful. who in the right mind who put that on & think it was flattering.  really isaac, really?

    • muzan-e

      Oh, Joshua.  Y’know what kept going through my mind while this played out last night? That old, old line: “I might be an asshole, but I’m not a fucking asshole.”  If you wanted to draw comparisons between Joshua and Ven, you might start with that. 

      I appreciate that he didn’t simper over his client. I appreciate that he very obviously gave a damn, and that he very obviously was all in favour of an asskicker who’s cool with displaying her prosthetic.  And watching him speak about his brother was painful, difficult.  There was a whole wealth of subtext barely-hidden beneath all those awkward words, and watching his facade slip over and over as he tried to find something that he could stand to say that wasn’t an outright lie…

      Whatever else he might have been during his season, his vulnerability right then was piercingly real, and I truly felt for him. 

      • Kayceed

        I was startled and touched by it as well. Much more compelling that Isaac’s histrionics.

      • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Tess Danesi

        Yes, you’re so right. I felt very uncomfortable watching him talk about his brother. He really seemed to be working overtime to find a way to say that his brother was proud of him when he clearly didn’t seem to believe it and I felt really sorry for him for the first time.

      • Lilithcat

        And watching him speak about his brother was painful, difficult. 

        Very much so.  Maybe I’m reading too much into what he said, but I certainly had the sense that Joshua’s taken a lot of shit from his brother over the years.  Macho soldier probably didn’t cotton to having a faggot fashion designer in the family.  It explains a lot about Joshua’s annoying behavior.  

        • ampg

          That’s pretty harsh – you don’t know that his brother’s a bigot just because he’s in the armed forces. My brother’s a Marine reservist but works in the theater, has plenty of gay friends, was fully supportive of the repeal of DADT, etc.  I got the feeling it was more of a career choice judgment than anything else.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             I could see either, honestly.  Though my brother in law, who is in the Army, has no homophobia or problems with gay people or gay rights, (he never commented on DADT because he’s active duty, and didn’t feel it was appropriate) when the idea of his son being gay someday (he’s 2) came up, he spazzed out.  Then both my sister in law (his wife and mother of said 2 year old) and myself told him to shut the hell up and that we’d rather see him gay than shot at in the Army.

          • Lilithcat

            I base my opinion on Joshua’s very emotional reaction.  He was almost in tears, real ones, the kind where you don’t dab your eyes to stop the mascara from running.   That’s not caused by a simple disagreement over career choice.

            • ampg

              It certainly could be if the disagreement takes the form of, “I’m out protecting the freedom of our country and you’re farting around with leopard print fabric. Why don’t you do something that actually matters?”  In other words, I agree that it’s entirely possible that his brother’s an asshole, and maybe also a bigot, but you seemed to be saying that because he’s in service it makes perfect sense that he’d be a homophobe, and I think that’s really unfair.

            • http://twitter.com/cornekopia Shawn EH

               Or, because he’s in service, he’s more likely to be macho and kind of “one of the guys” (because stereotypes and conformity to expectation are almost a prerequisite), whereas Josh is clearly not capable of that sort of gender-normative performance.

            • CozyCat

              Agreed.  Josh could barely talk; he could barely put together full sentences while talking about his relationship with his brother.  It was pretty obvious that Josh loves his brother, but that there are serious issues there.  What they may we can’t tell.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               I have a new theory, since I watched the episode 3 times while doing pilates.  (Yes, based on a whole 60 seconds of airtime — it’s not my fault, I was put into group therapy while I was still young and impressionable, now I can’t help analyzing people! :)

              My guess is that they love each other but that Josh’s brother has NEVER understood him.  I would say that he maybe got it a bit more after seeing the first season, and seeing the importance of it to Josh.  I think this was a chance to bridge more of that gap, which would account for how emotional he was — this was a time he could relate what he does to a world his brother can understand, and anything that makes a soldier feel good tends to be big for all military people.  He saw making a mistake as undoing all of the progress that they had made before. 

              Or I could be projecting based on my own issues, since it was a minute on TV by someone I have never met… that’s a very distinct possibility.  :P

          • muzan-e

            Like Shannon Stewart, I could see it going both ways. I’m not convinced it was fullblown bigotry. Something like that is so aggressive that you can fight against it, can justifiably dismiss the other person as..  well, a callous bigot.

            But it felt to me like it could be something as quiet and horrible as: “My big brother, who I idolize, considers me an embarrassment.” The kind of small, lingering wound that just never stops bleeding.

    • Susan Collier

      Even Mrs Roper wouldn’t wear Anthony Ryan’s dress (since they portrayed her as perpetually horny). Man, his dress was an utter fail: from the straps to not just cinching that muumuu under the boobs to “minimize” it. Disgraceful. And don’t get me started on the patented AR fauxhawk.

      Loved Uli’s. Thought the judges harshed too much on her trim. Man, I’d love to wear that dress!

      I liked Josh’s, but didn’t like that t-shirt top. The sleeves were just too long. She’s turning 40 Josh, not moving into an old people’s home. He treated her upcoming birthday like it was an unbelievable tragedy.

      And the less said about Emilio’s dress the better, although the color and shape/fit in front looked OK and looked appropriate for a Vegas bachelorette party, but yeah, scrappy and homemade.

      • libraangel

        No offense, but it was AR’s client who was going to her 40th birthday. Josh’s client was going to some military event.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000905542323 Rhonda Shore

      As far as I’m concerned, Isaac no longer has any credibility, not after saying “This is a young, chic, fresh dress.”   It could not have been less flattering and it looked cheap.  Beyond hideous.

    • SugarSnap108

      I hadn’t thought of a possible “Army Wives” tie-in … but yes, you’re right that it’s shocking they didn’t go there!

      You know, I really *don’t* think Isaac is just saying what the producers want.  He was really emotional and condescending during that judging session: the eye-roll, the bitchiness to Georgina.  I don’t think he comes off as someone just regurgitating what the producers are feeding him.  For whatever reason, I think he’s legit enthralled by AR’s work (or what may be inside AR’s pants, take your pick).

      I hate Uli’s dress. There, I said it.  Still love her and most of her work.  But she could’ve done this in her sleep, and I don’t think this one is any great shakes.  I hate mullet hemlines, for one.  And that embellishment on the front is tacky.  Can’t stand Josh, but I agree with his win.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H3XBSNN3JLZWI4R2EPZ2BQYT5U Suzanne S

        Here’s an idea I just had about Isaac’s ‘crush’-you like AR so much-GIVE HIM A JOB at your dang company! Isaac surely has the power to do this, no? I actually had the thought last night “Isaac and AR need to get a room”-which I haven’t said since high school. Although all the ‘love’ may be one-sided, since AR seems to be really happy with his boyfriend. 

      • Lisa_Cop

        I agree that Isaac seems to be going beyond any script. Not so much enthralled by AR’s work as by AR himself. Isaac basically said AR’s dress was ugly but don’t you dare criticize him.

        And what is all the love AR generates with men older than himself? I remember Tim Gunn almost cried when AR got auf’d is season 9.

        • MoHub

           Maybe it’s the uniball.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

           He seems like a genuinely decent guy.  Annoying this season because of the judges’ fawning, but a good enough guy.

    • LearnedFoot

      I totally agree that the producers are forcing the results this season, to an embarassing degree. (Come on, Isaac!) But I just wonder… why? I mean, AR doesn’t have a particularly interesting design aesthetic: his clothes are fine, for the most part, but he’s certainly no Seth Aaron or Laura Bennett or Leanne or even Jeffrey. And while he seems like a nice enough guy, he’s not particularly entertaining or interesting. So I just wonder why the producers would jump through these increasingly obvious, ridiculous hoops to anoint AR, especially over a fan fave like Uli.

      • ampg

        Two words: Testicular cancer.

        • http://twitter.com/FunButNutz John Spodick

          But they haven’t mentioned the cancer, OR the colorblindness once this season.   I think this is an obvious reaction to the outrage over Anya winning it all his season, much like Mondo’s win last “All-Stars” was a reaction to the outrage over Gretchen’s win.

          • Lisa_Cop

            Then they should have asked Victor Luna back. He got robbed. AR got auf’d mid season, didn’t even make it to the finale.

            • libraangel

              Victor Luna made divine clothes. Maybe he refused to be on a program with those mediocre morons.

            • libraangel

              p.s. I didn’t mean ALL moronic: Uli is lovely and talented.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

            Joanna mentioned the colorblindness at least once in the workroom in a previous episode.

        • Frank_821

          Yes sadly Uli having grown up and struggling in East Germany and witnessing the fall of the Berlin Wall is no match for ball cancer. Then again Uli was never one to cart out her family history for the sake of screen time

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            No, Uli merely concentrated on trying to design clothes-so much less interesting to the folks at B/M and LIfetime.

      • BeccaGo

        THANK YOU! I’ve been wondering this all season. What’s so special about him? Is it the cancer backstory, maybe? But they haven’t even harped on that like they do the usual weepy subplot. I’m mystified.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FBVC5LBEOWEHBYYCH3A2IZGZHI yahoo-FBVC5LBEOWEHBYYCH3A2IZGZHI

          Anthony Ryan is agreeable, nice-looking, and not particularly controversial.  He gets snippy, but not too much, and still seems like a pretty nice guy.  Possibly easy to manipulate as the show’s spokesperson. Compatible with with the magazine’s demographic.  Able to get along with most people.  This type of personality did very well in my former workplace.  It’s an asset.  

      • libraangel

        Did anybody else see the streaming line at the bottom of the screen announcing AR was fan favorite?!

        • Lisa_Cop

          Yes, I did.

        • MoHub

           Not this fan’s favorite by any stretch of the imagination. But then, I refuse to tweet, and Lifetime won’t let you vote directly on line.

          • bitchybitchybitchy

            I always thought that the fan favorite business was an easy way for the producers to let fans have some fun and recognize a designer who might not make it to NYFW, but silly me, I thought that the more skilled and talented ones would actually win the real prize.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               The last few seasons have had some real manipulation by the designers themselves — like Elena promised to donate at least 50% of the money for it, and I think AR has too.

      • altalinda

        Hear!  Hear!  I can sort of understand loading the dice for Mondo, who was robbed the first time around, but who (besides AR, his family and friends) was upset when AR was aufed?  Baffling.

    • R. L.

      TLo you hit the nail on the head.  I’d have been fine with Emilio leaving.  He’s missing his spark this year and hasn’t come anywhere near the quality of design he showed in his season.  Anthony’s SACK dress was horrifying.  The more he put there to try to hide his client’s boobs the more he drew attention to them.  She looked like she was smuggling watermelons.

      • R. L.

        I am also growing fond of Joshua who irritated me to no end in his season.  He has been funny and playful this season and very attentive to his client during this challenge.  I do like some of his designs more than others and I wouldn’t wear many of his offerings but in the cult of personality that we see with reality TV he seems poised to win with a break-out comeback at the last minute story line.  Uli…now her clothes I would wear.  But she’s so quiet and gets the quiet edit so I doubt she will win.  

      • alyce1213

        I’ve been bemoaning Emilio’s work all season.  Where the hell is he?  He seems intimidated.  He just seems to be making safe, boring choices in an effort to win, but that’s not how you do it. 

      • http://twitter.com/FunButNutz John Spodick

        I’m going to amend my comment from two weeks ago.  Anthony has one Sparkle sack and one grey/black droopy sack.

    • BeccaGo

      My fashion-challenged, non-Project Runway-watching, lesbian co-worker follows you guys on Twitter (initially because I kept retweeting your hilarious Olympic coverage), but I’ve never known her to check out anything but your TV show posts of her own volition, and I just heard her mutter at her desk, “What the hell? Why did he make her look fatter?” So congrats, Anthony Ryan! Your design is universally recognized as horrible!

    • RedRaven617

      Uli’s dress has many of the elements that AR should have used. I think that second dress could have worked well with the last lady, with a few adjustments. Too bad. If I had been her, it would have been pretty hard to get me down that isle.

    • Wellworn

      The cracktastic judging and producer manipulation is what is ruining this show more than anything else.  Maybe they need to start viewer phone in votes or some objective criteria in order to stop the madness.  And I feel bad for Anthony Ryan, he seems like a good guy and a decent designer but too many of his wins shouldn’t have happened, and he has slid past an auf more than once.  And Uli keeps getting robbed every week.  She was my favorite going in, and her overall performance this season deserves a win in the finals.

      • libraangel

        That is a good idea: viewer votes. We bitter kittens seem to have more taste and good ideas than the judges!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        Viewer votes… except Anya won fan favorite her season.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2LIE6ISFQUBIAO7OB6U5TAVXXQ Depot'er

      Anyone else just ready for this lack-luster season to be over? with ‘all stars’ we should be seeing amazing, rapturous, achingly good designs..and what we are getting is ARs ‘bowling bag top’ dress or Anthony’s ‘you could have bought this at a discount place for 20$’ design. I find myself fast forwarding 1/3 of the way thru, the waiting for the Auf, and ignoring the increasingly obvious editing/scripting.

      • libraangel

        I know that I USED to be absolutely rapturous and thrilled by the dresses of Siriano, Mondo, and Austin Scarlett. Now I am just bored and ‘Bleh”

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

          Speaking of Austin Scarlett, am I the only one who really misses the show “On the road with Austin and Santino”?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

            I missed it…as much as possible.

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

              OK, I have to admit, that was funny, Eric.

          • ampg

            I do!  I seriously loved that show and would have watched the crap out of a second season!

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          Bored and Bleh is right on the money. I know that Heidi, the Weinsteins and Lifetime will work to keep this franchise going, but it’s a pale shadow of its best days, and it has become a parody of itself.

    • yulaffin

      AR’s gown was fugly and unfortunately, overemphasized his client’s boobs. It would have been better if he had designed something with sleeves, cap sleeves at least, and a bit of a V-neck to give her some coverage but also to show off her curves.  I’m speaking as a hefty woman who would have been very uncomfortable in that dress.

      Just wanted to add that I loved Uli’s and she was robbed.

      • Laylalola

        Anthony Ryan could have designed any number of sleeveless dresses (with v-necks or any kind of neck, really) that would have done wonders for her figure. She’s not big, she wanted to de-emphasize her boobs after having gained a little bit of weight, he just turned this into the worst nightmare for her.

        • libraangel

          Not to defend AR’s dress, because it was beyond hideous, but didn’t his client say that she wanted a strapless gown?

          • alyce1213

            Well, kind of. Actually, I believe AR suggested strapless (MAJOR mistake) and she agreed.  I don’t know why he’d even suggest it, or why he didn’t talk her out of it.  He’s supposed to be the fashion designer and help his client look her best, not her worst.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               I never understand why these designers won’t say anything to their clients about what is a bad idea.  And it’s not a question of there being something wrong with the women — I don’t care how beautiful you are, there are certain things that are simply not going to work well on you.  (For a fine example, see Heidi Klum in Anya’s jumpsuit from a couple seasons back)

            • formerlyAnon

               Especially since I suspect that the “real women” usually trust the designers to be able to judge what will work on them. If I hadn’t watched so much of this show, I certainly would make that assumption.

            • CozyCat

              And she mentioned that she had recently gained the weight while recovering from an injury.  So, she has a different body which she doesn’t particulary like and she has no experience how to dress in order to flatter it.  It makes sense that she would defer to the “expert”.  And now she probably feels even worse about herself:  “I had a professional deisinger create a custom dress, and look how fat I look!”

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

               Well, how would you react if someone said to you, “You are a beautiful woman, but based on what you’re saying to me about how you want to look, this is not a good idea?”  Is it really that insane?  I can’t imagine being offended by someone going, “I love your curves, I think you look great.  If you want to minimize them, though, a strapless is not going to help you with that.”

            • 3boysful

              Maybe he wanted to avoid making sleeves . . . oh, wait, that was Anya . . . .

            • barbiefish

              I think Anthony Ryan made sleeves maybe one time this season, and I don’t think at all in his season.  I believe that was commented on here at the time.  Whenever it was that he did make sleeves. I recall being dumbfounded (they weren’t anything complicated or earth-shattering but I guess it put him just a fraction above Anya).

          • crash1212

             She sure did. AR’s first mistake was not educating her about the time constraints and that he couldn’t do a strapless dress for her in that length of time. BIG mistake, as that dress was SO bad.

    • cocohall

      The producers do seem to be insuring that AR gets to the finals, but I thought the decision to keep all four designers was out of respect to the veterans.  I don’t think they wanted any of the women to be associated with the word “loser.”  It just would have been cruel, and it seems that the producers intentionally kept this challenge to the end  with only 4 designers still on board so they could send everyone through.  

      I also thought this particular show was poorly edited.  Those judging sessions go on for a long time and it was clear big chunks of the discussion were left out and I think that is what made Isaac’s comments so confusing and his attack on Georgina seem like it came out of the blue.  I suspect that AR’s client made it very very clear that the dress she got was the dress she wanted.  And that Isaac was defending AR because he was attempting to listen to his client.  My guess is Georgina would have FORCED the woman into something that might have been more fashionable, but not to the clients’ liking.  Afterall, she is the same woman who said that Emilio’s model on a previous challenge was wearing a color that was difficult.  Which really meant it was a poor color choice for a white woman.  Because Emilio’s model was rocking the color against her dark skin.  I also get the sense that Isaac is sick to death of hearing the design criticism from  the female judges reduced to “I would wear that,” so he is going overboard to defend looks because they have more to offer than they would look good on Stacy Kiebler or Caroline Murphy.  I know I am sick to death of hearing that poorly articulated praise! 

      • Qitkat

        I do agree completely with your first paragraph. 
        However, when a dress is so blatantly poor as the one Anthony made, this kind of defense of it destroys all of the remaining credibility of both the producers and the judges, as so hilariously demonstrated by Isaac. At that point, since they intended to keep all the designers all along, they are between a rock and a hard place.
        But I just can’t agree with you that AR’s client got exactly what she wanted. She seemed quite unhappy with the end result to me. At the beginning of the judging, Caroline said that they were going to ask the models what they thought of their dresses. That part ended up being ignored, or edited out, or scarcely mentioned. I think on air, we only saw a snippet of one woman’s comment. I think in real woman challenges, they are always fraught with problems; the women don’t want to hurt the designer’s feelings, the judges oughtn’t want to hurt the women’s feelings. So we end up with a lot of double talk, except when there is such an obvious fail, we end up with an indefensible, untenable situation. And any remaining pretense of reality goes down the drain.

    • Laylalola

      There is no way Anthony Ryan’s client is wearing that to her 40th birthday, or ever, and I could feel her cringing as she watched this air last night. She didn’t deserve this — the dress, or the slap-in-the-face implication that she’s the reason she couldn’t pull off this dress, what with all that over-the-top insistence that Anthony’s work on it as wonderful.

    • SewingSiren

      1. I am completely behind Josh’s win . Like I said last night, the only criticism I have is that it’s not quite formal enough. But his client obviously did not want a gown, so’s it’s perfect. Plus she’s a marine. And there’s the dog, and the dog got a dress too. Corny but awesome none the less.
      2. I like Uli’s very much. And it’s cool that her signature is well known enough for a client to ask for it. I am a bit surprised she wasn’t dinged for  repeating. Sometimes that bugs them.
      3. I think that Emilio designed a great little dress for his client to wear to Las Vegas. I think she will wear it. And with a modest about of fit correction I think she will.
      4. Ryan Anthony’s is a mess. No one would wear a dress that makes them look like a sack of potatoes on their 40th birthday. Everything about it is bad. I cannot imagine his client wearing this dress under any circumstances. 

    • Qitkat

      I felt awful for Anthony’s woman; clearly she looked in the mirror, and was horrified that he accomplished the exact opposite of what he promised her. I may not have been able to have sewn a better dress for her, but I think I could have sketched a much more flattering design, as could many BK’s here. He got so hung up on the use of the ombre, which might have worked if fashioned differently, that he lost all sight of the end product. Either that, or AR is a very very over-praised designer. I find it difficult to accept this dress as design; it really is nothing more than a blousey, gathered over-long sack with a very unnecessary slit and a belt and a weird halter. Such a fail. Any of the other three garments would have been more flattering on her, even Emilio’s in a different color, and especially Uli’s. And using no bra was unforgiveable! The poor woman must have been thinking: *but I never ever skip wearing a bra.* If she said anything, it must have been edited out. If this had been for me, I simply would have refused to wear it. Period. I am almost more disgusted with this particular producer manipulation than any other in the entire history of project runway. It no longer deserves capital letters.

      • Laylalola

        I know, there’s something about Anthony skating in this particular episode with this particular woman that has me fuming.  

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

         I like the ombre.  But I would have used it vertically, and with far more structure.

    • Anathema_Device

      I knew going into the episode that there was no way Anthony Ryan would be sent home. At the end of the judging, I turned to my husband and said, “Oh boy, what do you want to bet that everyone gets to stay?” If they are so dead set on keeping AR, then Emilio should have gone. That was a crappy, ordinary, cheap-looking dress.

      Actually, in thinking about it more, I think the judges didn’t want to be harsh with the military veteran clients.

      Plus, they are totally up AR’s butt.

      • Anathema_Device

        P.S. I think Josh’s skirt needed a thicker waistband. Love Uli’s but agree with T Lo’s assessment.

        (Disqus isn’t letting me edit.)

    • LC3203

      I’ll give the episode this: they made sure the judges were nice to the models. Last season’s regular PR was unforgivable in its treatment of the real world ladies. Hell, Korrs made one of them cry. So, yay.

      But that belt on AR’s dress is a boob tourniquet. I mean, what the f*cking f*ck?

    • spooki C

      I wonder is Isaac is intentionally making the producer manipulation so obvious. Either way it’s hilarious to watch. This episode bored me to tears but it was nice to see female veterans highlighted, we’re so often ignored.

      • Lisa_Cop

        I don’t think so. I tweeted Isaac about that and he tweeted back sarcastically and that that was FASHION (and yes he put that in caps).

        • bitchybitchybitchy

          Well, Ms. Mizrahi must have been feeling a tad sensitive-such a delicate flower.

          • formerlyAnon

             I used to love watching his talk show – he could be genuinely interesting and engaging and kind to his guests – but he did always seem to have a streak of vulnerability/defensiveness. The kind that makes a boss unable to admit they’ve been wrong to an underling. I think he is genuinely incapable of managing his reactions when he feels criticized or thrown into the shade.

            Or at least I *hope* so. It would be truly dreadful to think that he’s deploying an intentionally constructed personality that makes him look so bad.

    • siriuslover

      Josh’s girl looks like the only one happy to be there. As you scroll down, they look more and more miserable. Josh has undergone some degree of redemption this season, hasn’t he. Still tacky as can be, but definitely not the catty diva yelling, “I WILL not have it!”

      • alyce1213

        Now I’m confused — did Isaac shout “I will not HAVE it” or “HEAR it” ?? 
        Worth getting right for posterity — a truly outrageous and shameful tv moment to remember. I am embarrassed for him.

        • siriuslover

          I’m sorry. I was referring to Josh’s antics during his season. At one point he got into a disagreement with Bert over something stupid and he put up his little diva hand and said, “I WILL not have it Bert, I will not have it!”

          • alyce1213

            My mistake. Obviously, I thought you were referring to Isaac’s tantrum last night. Equally childish and divatastic.

          • http://twitter.com/cornekopia Shawn EH

             As if all the sangfroid Josh could muster in the world could ever stand up to Bert’s “I Knew Halston, bitch!” disco diva days. I loved it when Bert mellowed out that season and stopped letting the kids ruffle his feathers.

      • Stubenville

        Were you aware that  “I WILL not have it! is a line from Sordid Lives, a movie, which shockingly, is not about Josh?

        • siriuslover

          I was not aware of that.

    • alyce1213

      Bravo to Josh for making his woman look and feel like a million bucks. I also liked the cuff and her heels, and hair and makeup were done well. She looked hot and happy.

      I wanted to shake Uli at Mood, when she put back the colored fabric and said something like, “I’ll do black and white as the color…” Oh, UliUliUli, black and white is NOT a color.   Her dress was lovely, what her woman wanted, but I’d love to have seen a color this time.

      I can’t express how disgusted I am with Isaac’s idiotic display — “I WON’T HEAR IT!”  ????? wtf?

    • belfebe

      That muumuu was disgraceful.  Antony had no understanding on how to dress a lady with large tracts of real estate.  The dress was ugly, unflattering and poorly constructed.  I think that the only reason they ended with 4 finalists instead of 3 is because the guest judges were not onboard with sm’aufing Emilio.  And while Emilio’s dress was poorly constructed and looked amateurish, it was nowhere as hideous as AR’s.  This confirms that yes, AR is the predetermined winner.  I like him, but I hate it when the winner has been handpicked from the start.  

      Josh?  He was awesome.  I want that dress.  And an Uli dress as well.

      • http://twitter.com/cornekopia Shawn EH

         Uli’s just did exactly what her client wanted: made her look pretty and chic. She lucked out with her soldier’s bone structure, but also the “Uli dress” is just a very flattering silhouette that she figured out long ago: all it needs is pretty fabric, and Uli even got to stick to her theme of monochrome this season.

        Josh’s is so nice because it actually has lovely detailing and texture all over; but you can’t see it except in person because it’s almost all black. I can’t believe he toned down that pattern to just expert trim, but he finally did it: he edited! He totally deserved the win, to me!

        • libraangel

          Uli herself looked pretty spectacular on this episode.

      • MoHub

        Had it been an actual muumuu, it would have looked exponentially better.

        And Emilio had a great design; he just fell down on execution, which is not normally an issue with him. The idea of the strap across the back to allow his client to wear a bra should have had Joanna singing.

    • tessasouthworth

      “We apologize for subjecting you to dog anus so early in the day, darlings.”
      At first read, I though the guys were referring to Isaac the so-called Judge/Designer. It took me a few seconds to scroll back up and see that this was a literal reference to Isaac the Dog!

      • l_c_ann

        Something’s missing from the male dog, Isaac.

    • BeccaGo

      ONE DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE BEAUTIFUL GEORGINA CHAPMAN!!

      • pylgrym

         Soldiers don’t cry but I bet she wanted to.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1753538589 Susan Rachel

      AR’s dress was hideous.  He grabbed  fabric and gathered it into a big-ass piece of bias tape.  Wow.  That’s fucking amazing design.  

    • Laylalola

      Look at Anthony Ryan’s client again in the top photo — she is not some massive thing hulking over all the other women (including the model whats–her-name host) and Anthony Ryan just did the unforgivable in managing to make it seem that way, he should have been auffed. 

    • FoxInSocks

      Maybe one of the bitter kitten multitude can explain this to me because I don’t get it.

      Let’s look back at All Stars Season 1, aka ‘We need to give a win to Mondo because it looks like he’s actually going to be successful and we want to look like we called it, even though we actually bet on Gretchen’. Okay, this one makes sense. There was actual outcry over Mondo’s loss in his season (as far as outcry goes with PR).

      Why the championing of AR? I feel kind of bad calling him the Anya, because I think he actually has some talent. But even in Anya’s win… she was the pretty, ‘exotic’ girl with the marketable backstory, and I don’t see how AR clears that hurdle either.

      Has he been wildly successful since his season or something? I am perplexed.

      • Laylalola

        He strategically pulled out the C card at an early runway judging in a way totally unrelated to anything, and come the finals he almost certainly will again.

      • http://twitter.com/cornekopia Shawn EH

         Well, he was ill for awhile, right, so his recovery backstory is marketable too. Though maybe not so much the clown hair and head sashes.

        • FoxInSocks

           Ah, I suppose that’s true. I hadn’t been thinking about the ‘PR winner and survivor!’ angle. I don’t think I’m cynical enough for this season. ;)

      • minnye

        I don’t get it either. His default high necked, fitted size 00 minidress can’t be very marketable, can it?

        Actually, viewed from that perspective, it’s surprising that he was assigned the curvy gal.

    • BrooklynBomber

       this is a new low for your dignity, hon

      I think this needs to be a new catch-phrase. It could be useful in in upcoming red carpet posts.

      • http://twitter.com/cornekopia Shawn EH

         Is it lower than his Chevrolet shilling in the commercials: “I don’t design cars, but I know how to drive … ” or whatever he prattles on about.

    • another_laura

      A sack with a sash around it.  That’s what AR made.  It was truly pathetic.

      I stopped watching Regular PR after season 9 but tuned back for All Stars 2.  I’m sorry to say that reading T Lo’s recaps and the Bitter Kittens is more interesting than the show, for sure.  When do we collectively give up, kittens?

      • libraangel

        This kitten is not giving up, because, as you say, I enjoy reading all the posts and T&L!

    • snich11

      AR’s dress offends me, I mean really offends me. He made an attractive woman look awful and huge when she was NOT. Inexcusable!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1129137319 Paula Pertile

      This show has lost all credibility now as an actual design show. Isaac must need the money really bad to pay for his apartment remodel or something, else why would he embarrass himself like that, praising such a mess. 
      The women were inspiring though, it was worth watching for that.

      • libraangel

        Did any of you think that Isaac seemed tense or something?

        • libraangel

          p.s. I meant tense as in hysterical or out of control.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

        I would give anything to have been a fly on the wall when/if Tim Gunn, Heidi, and Nina Garcia watched last night’s episode.  Do you think that they are starting to understand why the audience has increasingly said the results are manipulated by the producers? 

        • formerlyAnon

           I can’t believe that people as busy and in-demand as those three watch these. (Isn’t that why the well-to-do have assistants?)

    • wawawah

      AR’s Military woman would probably prefer another deployment overseas than be seen in that ombre trash bag again! She is a young woman with a typical full fiqure that’s found all across AMERICA! If AR wants to be a successful designer…he needs to learn how to design for more than a runway model!

    • BrooklynBomber

      I don’t care if it’s PR Regular, PR All-Stars, PR OuterSpace, or PR Special Victims Unit: 3 finalists has long been the exception, not the rule. They might as well give up on that pretense and make 4 finalists official.

      • Qitkat

        PR Special Victims Unit
        Love it! Kind of sums up this season.

        • BrooklynBomber

          And of course we’re looking forward to PR Teams! Oy.

          • Stubenville

            I hope they were shackled together like the chain gangs you saw in old prison movies. That would be reality TV gold! 

            • BrooklynBomber

              Ha ha!  I hope they have to design something for John Garfield and Paul Muni.

            • bitchybitchybitchy

              Rather like PR: The Defiant Ones?  Designers shackled together, ripping errant stitches out with their teeth….love it!

            • formerlyAnon

               Shackled together 24/7! That has possibilities.

              You might get the best “candid” footage since the first season or two when at least some of what went on was actually not intentional posing by the contestants and/or stage-managed by producers.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emily-Smith/12431153 Emily Smith

       LOVE the uli dress.  that’s delightful.  also does the amputee have a leg that has a foot on it designed for wearing with heels, like a barbie style foot?  how do they get the weight bearing in that foot right?  Study the Kardashian’s or SJP’s most assuredly permanently altered feet?  science is fucking awesome.

      • andcoh

        Actually, studying how women walk in heels led to some big improvements in the design of prosthetic feet. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emily-Smith/12431153 Emily Smith

           that’s awesome.  eventually prosthetics are going to be better than the real thing.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PRM766RS56X25A5742XLACK2LM Sam

      It’s simple, Anthony got the “heavy” girl, and he couldn’t be bothered to make an actual dress for her, so he used a sheet. The only definition he gave the thing was from a belt. This is just as bad as the designers who berate the “real sized” actual women because instead of making her a dress that she actually liked and would feel proud wearing, he gave her a sheet, proving that to him her body is disgusting and should be covered up as much as possible.
      He didn’t make her cry like Ven did with his woman, but he probably made her feel just as bad.

    • Super_Red

      AR’s was a TRAVESTY of a dress. As a larger-busted gal who has the same “boob-hiding” tendencies, I would be horrified to have to wear that thing. I’ve tried that dress on at many a TJ Maxx, Marshall’s, and Ross, and I’ve always ripped it off as fast as humanly possible when I see what it’s doing to me. The fact that the judges praised that thing is the first time this season I’ve actually worked up enough to yell at them. 

      Not only would a one shoulder dress have offered her more support, but it would have helped draw the eye elsewhere. If he’d done a black one shoulder dress that was more fitted, he would have been much more successful in dressing her body type and making her feel beautiful. That strap at the top of her breasts was guaranteed to make her look terrible, and once you put the band under it, all it says is “look at my boobs! I even framed them for you in case you missed it!”

      My favorite moment is when Josh and Uli come into the back room after leaving the runway and you can see AR’s girl in the background hiking the dress back up- clearly uncomfortable.

      I really enjoyed Josh in this episode and agree with TLo’s assesment, but my main criticism of his outfit is that it didn’t look as expensive as I would have liked it to. It looks like a great outfit that she could go out to dinner in, or out to lunch to- it didn’t strike me as an ‘event’ outfit. Either way, kudos to him for everything he got right here. I love it when the designers really connect with their models. If memory serves, he’s always done well with “real world” clients.

      I’m honestly glad they didn’t eliminate Emilio. Not that his dress wasn’t auf-worthy, (and I’ve never been a fan of his) but there’s no way he should have gone home over Anthony Ryan, and if they were keeping Anthony Ryan around, well… Hopefully he hangs himself with his design next week. Actually, no, I don’t hope that- because the judges would just embarrass themselves praising it. I hope he does amazingly well to justify all of this.

      • mskgb

        It was all over when AR put pleats above large breasts. Even if, as I suspect, his client wanted such camoflauge, he should have gone back to the drawing board when he discovered his design erased her waist. Emilio didn’t sufficiently execute his solution to a problem that emerged during model fitting, but at least he did more than tie a ribbon around it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QYNAGYILEHAIYAZP2BEIPGJJIQ Cindy

      I hope Anthony’s client found a more flattering dress to wear to her birthday party.

      • snich11

        Me too!

        P.S. I like your doggie.

      • SewingSiren

        She could easily find a more flattering dress than the one Anthony made, at almost any store and in any price range.

        • formerlyAnon

           Ohh, so very, sadly, true.

    • tessasouthworth

      I’m not a “Mary” Claire reader, so can anyone tell me how much, if any, presence Mondo actually has had as guest editor? I ask because it occurs to me that what we see as obvious producer manipulation might just be based on Nina & her colleagues wanting what they might see as a “young and fresh” (to paraphrase Mizrahi) perspective in its pages. If so, I’ll tell you one thing, if Uli were in fact the winner and became guest editor, I’d probably subscribe to the magazine to see her monthly take on fashion! And if Emilio were the winner, I’d at least flip through the pages while standing in line at the grocery store.

      • MoHub

         Ya know, I haven’t a clue. Mondo’s PR blogs aren’t even in Marie Claire; they’re in The Hollywood Reporter, so go figure.

        • tessasouthworth

          Thanks for the answer, MoHub. So I guess the position looks to be just lip service.  I wonder if there’s any pay attached to it for them.

      • Wellworn

        Good point.  I don’t read the magazine, so I don’t know the answer about Mondo.  But if they really want a certain designer to guest edit, then just hire who they want, instead of manipulating a whole show for their preferred outcome.  It’s not like they can’t just hire ex-PR contestants to guest edit their magazine.  If this prize is so influential to their voting process, then maybe they should get rid of it.

    • l_c_ann

      I have something good to say about watching PR on Thursday night.
      It’s one way to remember what day of the week it is, for those of us who are retired.  In a week with a holiday (or two) earlier in the week, followed by college football almost every night,  PR is the way to remember what day it is (without looking at the computer or newspaper).

    • marilyn

      I thought Isaac dummied up over AR’s dress in deference to the model.  It was a horrible dress.  But my read was that Isaac was trying to comfort a woman who felt very overexposed, vulnerable and responsible for the trainwreck of a dress.  She was cleaerly so upset that he did not want to upset her any more.  As one judge pointed out-the goal was to minimize interest in her bust, but the design made it the first thing you noticed.  These are not professional models.  They are people off the street.  While they are aware of their shortcomings, being under that kind of professional scrutiny is very stressful.  I read that she was feeling guilty for causing the bad design.  It wold hae been totally different if she had been mad at AR for the dress, but she was clearly upset at herself for it.  This is what happens when people off the street get in the mix.   

      • libraangel

        I see your way of looking at this, and yes, it must have stressful to be on television and people saying things about your bust.

      • Joyce VG

         I agree with your perspective if that is what was really happening. Sadly that may not be the case. And I feel bad for our wonderful veteran if she felt badly about this horrid dress.  Certainly none of it was her fault. She was hero last night for sure.

      • http://twitter.com/cornekopia Shawn EH

         I think that’s possible, to give Isaac the slightest benefit of the doubt. He may really have liked the dress to some extent. After all, he does like very simple a-line or empire silhouettes, to judge from his bridal collections, etc.

      • pylgrym

         I must have zoned but I thought the IM hissy fit was after the models left.

      • Lisa_Cop

        But Isaac was the same way over AR’s feather capelet 1 or 2 weeks ago. First ” I don’t like it” to an about face “Oh, I love it”.

      • Wellworn

        I think all the judges held most of their criticism until the “models” off the runway.  Issac was effusive in his praise while they were there and after they left.  I think? 

    • Joyce VG

      I just don’t understand why the producers why Anthony Ryan to win so bad?  It just makes no sense to me.  The best designer should win.  And the whole Issac angle confuses me more. Color me naive but I really don’t get it.  I’m glad Josh won last night because it was a great dress she could wear over and over again. Not a formal dress by any stretch of the imagination but still a great dress. Uli’s dress was uninspired but pretty. No way the lady will be able to dance in that dress without snagging it from behind with her heel. Emilio lost his way.  But the color looked great on her. And Anthony Ryan’s dress? Well.  There are no words.  

    • http://www.lifeinspice.com/ rose88

      I would say Issac’s embarrassing display of histrionics over AR’s godawful potato sack of a dress (“HOW DARE YOU SPEAK BADLY OF ANTHONY RYAN’S YOUNG, FRESH AND GLAMOROUS POTATO SACK GOWN!  I SIMPLY WILL NOT TOLERATE SUCH HERESY TO BE SPOKEN ALOUD IN OUR SACRED JUDGING PANEL!”) was the second most pathetic display of whoring I’ve ever seen from a PR judge.  The number one spot still goes to The Duchess when he gushed about Anya’s skills after she sent some poor guy down the runway with his ass exposed in the craptastic jeans she made for him.

      • Lisa_Cop

        After my husband just played a podcast for me, about how fake reality TV is, I have to give it up to Isaac for his acting and saying his lines with such conviction. If memory serves, Isaac went to NYC Performing Arts high school and had a small part in the movie Fame.

    • http://twitter.com/anywhoo Leigh David

      Not only did AR give her a nightmare of a dress, he gave her his horrible hairdo, too! 

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        a hiddy dress AND the Heinous Poufette-that woman should have decked AR on the spot.

    • guest2visits

      I was surprised how Josh came through for his client; it really could have gone so wrong. Initially I thought his color palette was
      too dark and dreary for her, and that the print would be garish, but the garment turned out to be a dignified and respectful little
      frock that was suitable for the occasion, fit her nicely and met her request to show off and not hide the prosthetic. The touch of
      sheer and print at the hem was just enough style element to make it special, too.  Whatever it took to make Josh focus and leave
      the tacky, usually vulgar ick-factor out of his design is probably not something to count on, however.
      Unfortunately; Emilio brought the vulgar ickyness this week. If I didn’t know; I would have thought Josh made the yellow dress from it’s horribly unattractive, tacky, sleezy looking overexposed back with sh*ty looking bra-strap feature. Yikes. She’s going to Vegas;
      not ‘working’ Vegas, for heavensake. The color was pretty and the bodice would have been very nice for the client; but on top of
      everything else – the construction was also horrendous.  I dream of Emilio making final 3 and laying out an amazing collection for
      everyone; but it is only a dream. I am sad.       In my opinion, it may have been worse than Anthony’s disaster.
      At least Anthony’s was a properly sewn and finished garment.  I think if Anthony had disregarded her request for strapless with
      common sense – he might have made a very nice greco-roman gown with gathered shoulder straps that crossed or V-d in the front
      (which would have allowed for a decent foundation-bra) and any belt should have matched the color of the fabric it was over, NOT
      contrasted so starkly.  But if I had a choice; I would have prefered to make a floor length gown with almost a fit and flare shape,
      from a richer looking material like a stretch faux-taffeta or faux dupioni; something with body in a deeper shade. The cost might
      not have allowed it.  The dress would button down the front like a carefully tailored shirt with 3/4 sleeves. Opening a few buttons at the top would allow for some glitzy jewelry.     What he made was really unflattering for his client, needless to say. I would
      be amazed if she chose to wear that anywhere. But the absolutely worst thing about Anthony’s dress was the fake critique the
      judges gave it. That was outrageous.
      Uli’s was just what the client asked for and it fit her beautifullly; I only question if it’s too much open back for a wedding?
      I also don’t know what KH was talking about ‘going big’ on the nice little bit of subtle embellishment for the front. This was from
      someone in the plainest, most severe widow’s dress.  She reminded me of the groovy nuns of the 70s; the ones that played guitar
      and sung the folksy gospel in a knee length habit.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

         She was proud of her service and wanted her prosthetic visible.  Using the sheer and the print at the hem keeps the interest there, and looks great.

      • Lisa_Cop

        My husband just played a podcast with a former reality show producer. These shows apparently have story editors, acting coaches and directors who demand multiple takes. These critiques weren’t just fake, they were probably scripted. If that’s so then kudos to Isaac for stellar acting; and Harvey Weinstein has saved his wife (Georgina) from looking totally ridiculous.

        • GretaChristina

           “…and Harvey Weinstein has saved his wife (Georgina) from looking totally ridiculous.”

          No, he hasn’t. He’s succeeded in making her look ridiculous. The judging on this show is transparently rigged, and it makes the judges lose credibility. Especially this week.

          • l_c_ann

            This after having her share the stage with an actress who was widely reported to have been his mistress for a decade.

            (That was THE episode when the actress was The Lovely and Georgina wasn’t.)

            • guest2visits

              ok… I’m hooked.. which episode? 3,4,5..?

        • guest2visits

          Ugh. I think the behaviors of the designers and the pre-determined outcome of the challenges has been suspicious
          for a long time, no?  I thought Gretchen was wildly obvious in her actions that it was already in the bag.
          The show tries to cover itself with heavy handed editing to the point no one is sure who is saying what to who about
          anything.  And it even tries to obscure the looks on the RW to sway the audience’s impression of what they’re seeing.
          It’s too bad since the idea of the show was already strong enough to gather interest and an appreciative following
          without the circus tricks.  Whatever the results are for PRAS2; I don’t know if I can stomach even one more season,
          … especially TEAMS.

    • annrr

      Unreal AR’s dress is 10 times worse than the one that got Ivy sent home. Isaac Mizrahi should be mortified.  That poor woman, look at how bummed she is. AR did everything he could do to make her look bad, incl. that awful fauxhawk. She is a very pretty woman with great hair. She would have looked beautiful in Uli’s dress with her hair down. I think she should get her own Uli dress for being a good sport.

      • alyce1213

        She surely deserved better.  I always feel so badly for the ‘client’ who winds up with a crappy outfit.  

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

           I didn’t in S4, but that was the only one.

    • libraangel

      Why doesn’t Isaac just book a hotel room for himself and AR and get it over with, then give him the crown before next week’s show?!
      The worst part of AR’s dress was that horrible white halter top and straps that looked like a giant bandage or bra coming out of her bodice. Thought he was using ombre with the dark on top (not white) to minimize her bosom! By putting the belt, that’s all I saw on the poor girl! And Emilio: what happened?! The sewing awful, as if he forgot how to sew, especially that tight back and the sides. And did you notice his model Lisa looked absolutely beautiful in the red (blue? can’t remember) floaty dress when she came in for her fitting? She should have left that on for the runway! Anyway, Instead of keeping them (???!!!!), I would have sent both AR and Emilio home.
      AS for Uli and Josh, yes, they were o.k., but honestly, I wasn’t thrilled by either one. As you said. T&L, just another Uli dress, and I didn’t like the print and besides, the client wanted purple. Josh: loved the skirt, top um. o.k.
      Well. we will see what happens in the grand finale, but I bet we can all guess!

    • http://twitter.com/lisledanielle Danielle Lisle

      I was happy to see Josh won, his client was absolutely radiating joy. I would have liked to see the top of his dress fitted to her body just a skosh better, but overall it was a cute dress, and perfect for her. I loved that she didn’t want to hide the prosthesis,
      AR is killing me. I liked him on his season, but I can’t get behind someone who gives a woman a uniboob.

    • fringebenefit

      Oh TLo, hearing it from you does help a bit, but Isaac has destroyed any credibility he owned as a judge with that defense of one of the worst catastrophes ever to walk the PR runway. The other judges really fought him on it, to their credit. Probably the intention was that Josh would go home this episode, but having the winning ensemble saved him.

      • Lisa_Cop

        Since these shows are so scripted, you have to believe Harvey Weinstein saved his wife (Georgina) from embarrassing herself with ridiculous critiques. Isaac is doing all the heavy lifting, acting wise, with those embarrassingly stupid critiques of AR.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      Oh wow, AR’s client looks like she has a spare tire tucked under her armpits to use as a bra. How awful! If that was me, I would have raged at the judges until they booted AR. Inexcusable.

      The straps on Uli’s dress are lovely and graceful.

    • http://twitter.com/lisledanielle Danielle Lisle

      Also, I noticed that there were an unusual amount of Weight Watchers commercials last night. Interesting for a “real woman” show. Yes, I know it’s more toward the New Year’s Resolution crowd, but it looked wrong in conjunction with Georgina and Carolyn griping about how AR didn’t celebrate his client’s curves.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DBSIHWVY4ECXGNXAXFXJMSCNIE Katrin

        I didn’t like how the client had clearly said that she wanted to cover up and minimize her bust, and then these two stick-figured armchair psychologists come along and tell her to celebrate her curves!  

        • amywinns

          That is EXACTLY what I barked at the TV: Shut up, stick insect!
          Larger women can’t win with these people: “you’re too fat, you should be ashamed!” “don’t be ashamed, get those girls out there!” Whatever. She’s an articulate adult in recovery from an injury… she gets to decide how she feels about her body. It may well have been coming from a sincere place, but seriously.

          • http://twitter.com/lisledanielle Danielle Lisle

            Bravo! Well said.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/DBSIHWVY4ECXGNXAXFXJMSCNIE Katrin

            It really wasn’t the time or their place to make such demands of her, especially as she was being paraded around in a dress that obviously made her feel uncomfortable. 

        • http://twitter.com/lisledanielle Danielle Lisle

          Yes!! I was shouting the exact same thing! It’s all fine and well for these waifs to preach the glory of celebrating your curves, but most real women would rather die than draw attention to the thing that makes them the most embarassed or uncomfortable. Skinny and gorgeous Georgina can tell me all day long to “show off my figure” but I’d rather not wear something that accentuates my love handles and tummy pooch.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I particularly loved it in light of the fact that a lot of Marchesa’s stuff is so overdone as to be unwearable by women over a size 6, and I can almost guarantee that neither Marchesa nor Mizrahi makes anything that fits an even close to plus size woman.

        • CozyCat

          To speak in their defense:  a design which “celebrated” a little bit more and “covered up” a little less would actually minimize her bust more.  A v neck, not necessarily showing a lot of cleavage, and a more fitted design could have been very flattering and showed her that she is a very attractive woman–she just needs to learn a new set of tricks for dressing what is now a curvier body.

      • alyce1213

        Yeah, but it’s only an unfortunate coincidence, I think.  TV is cluttered with stop smoking ads, weight loss, and exercise commercials this time of year.

    • http://www.ellenciompi.com/ NurseEllen

      I think the lady who is wearing Josh’s dress should get the win, for wearing heels with a prosthetic leg.  NICELY DONE!

    • crash1212

      I have no doubt in my mind that Anthony Ryan could’ve created a beautiful, flattering dress for his client – given enough time. I think his first mistake was not talking her out of the strapless idea given his time constraints. Doing strapless on this body type takes some major construction. What he produced was so damned ugly it made me mad.  I thought this would be the twist from the producers – we all think they’ve got AR pegged as the winner….we’ll show them – PACK YOUR BAGS AR! But NOOOOO – they all go to Paris. Any cred Isaak had on this show just went out the window. I could not believe how vehemently he defended this POS. I would love to see the full judging session because there must’ve been more to it than what we saw. Such snark directed to the “beautiful” Georgina Chapman – hasn’t he been replaced in future PR seasons? I wonder if the snark is why. Can’t wait for this season to be over – this show has lost its luster for me.

      • minnye

        I dunno. Even given enough time, I’m not convinced that AR would have had the technical know-how to construct a dress that would have made his client happy… given that he plunged ahead with a cotton mumu and didn’t appear to consider alternatives. I question his range & design instincts.

    • MattCooper27

      I don’t know which was harder to watch: Isaac’s creaming in his pants over that “fresh and young” Empire waisted, shoulderless maternity muumuu, his scolding the other judges that he “will not hear” their criticisms of said maternity muumuu, or the hideous dress itself. All I know is that he comes off as an embarrassing tool.

      Georgina Chapman, by the way, is gorgeous, and dresses flawlessly. Love her.

    • TiaChel

      I totally agree with you guys, being a plus size girl myself there is no way I would have wanted to walk the runway in Ryan Anthony’s sad sack of a dress!  That white stip looked like she was taped into it.  I think project runway shoud consider doing a season of just regular sized people, then we can really see what kind of designers they are. PS love your blog!

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        really, the white straps look like adhesive tape.  or that cotton strapping they use to make patio furniture.  he couldn’t have made a worse choice.

    • Inspector_Gidget

      Anthony Ryan pulled a Kinley!  You know, when a producers’ pet completely fucks up the final elimination challenge, and they can’t really defend sending someone else home instead, so no one goes home.  Yawn.

      I recorded this and haven’t even watched it yet… and now I don’t have to.  Thanks, TLo!  That’s an hour I have back.

      • MattCooper27

        Didn’t the same thing happen when Anya effed up her fabric choices and suddenly everyone was given an extra 300 dollars to buy new material and then, I think, they only had to show one of the looks they had prepared? 

        • Inspector_Gidget

          Yeah, I’d forgotten about that.  But then I’ve forgotten most of that season!  :D

        • Lisa_Cop

          And on the first season of All Stars didn’t Mila mysteriously lose 1 of her bags of fabric? Too bad these shows bind everyone with such strict confidentiality agreements.

    • https://openid.aol.com/opaque/50253638-569b-11e2-9c91-000bcdcb471e carolclark12

      Project Runway has a history of televising “designers” mocking women who don’t have model proportions.  I kept waiting for him to say something bad and was glad when he didn’t.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

      Just imagine how mortified AR’s woman will be if she left the runway thinking her dress was “fresh and youthful” and decided to wear it to the event, only to watch the show later (or read the blogsrds) and find out what everyone actually thought about the dress!  If she didn’t have body-image issues prior to the show, she certainly would now!  Thanks, AR, for sending to this poor woman into years of therapy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

      Emilio’s attempt at salvaging that dress with scraps at the last minute reminded me of his woven “string and nuts” bathing suit (the hardware store challenge during his season) that started out as an evening gown but he ran out of materials.  Clearly he doesn’t do as well in the “make it work” category as some others.

      • http://twitter.com/jen_canary Jennifer Ford

        Ugh! Now I remember why I dislike him so much. He threw his poor awesome model — who basically walked naked like she was wearing the best couture ever — under the bus for that, too. Jerk.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Richards-Rozsa/100000249324206 Regina Richards Rozsa

          I had forgotten how truly egregious that pink string bathing suit was (her entire behind was exposed) until I went to Google Images and searched for Emilio Sosa hardware bathing suit.  I still can’t believe anyone could possibly take him seriously after that.

      • alyce1213

        Yep, it’s called choking.

    • KELLEYKAT

      Josh’s model was the only one who looked remotely happy on the runway!  Of course with the cute dog accessory no one else was gonna win!
      Uli’s gal looked great, but maybe if she cracked a smile she could have scored the win.  
      I wonder if the powers that be at PR will make sure Emilio and AR ladies get acceptable dresses for their events.  Maybe a nice Marchesa??  hehe!  There is no way that either of them will be wearing those pieces of crap!  

      • Carrps

        That’s exactly what my sister and I said — give AR’s model a Marchesa gown!

        • 3boysful

           Let’s start a movement–Georgina, give that poor woman a custom-tailored dress (without quite so much crap on it, please)!

          • tessasouthworth

            I’ll take it a step further- let’s start a movement for the judges to put their money where their mouths are. That is, to show their appreciation for the veterans’ service, all four of the veterans should be awarded their choice of either a Marchesa or a Mizrahi gown/dress. And I’ll give you one guess as to how many of them would opt for the Mizrahi!

    • Celandine1

      I do think Josh deserved the win here, but this outfit reminded me a lot of the dress he did for the real woman challenge in his season. The skirt with the sheer trim and the waist detail are so similar. Still a pretty outfit that really flattered his client. While I liked Uli’s dress, it’s a dress she has done hundreds of times and I found that the bodice did not flatter her client as much as it could have. On the runway all I could see was her client’s rather broad shoulders. The shape of Uli’s dress with a little more coverage front and back would have flattered the hell out of AR’s client.

      Oh and since Army’s Wives ended it’s run last season that probably saved us all from tie-in, thank goodness.

    • SugarSnap108

      I said this back in the TLOunge – apologies for repeating myself.  But the most baffling thing to me about AR’s design is that even if he has never designed for a non-runway-model body, it doesn’t matter.  I’m just a dim layperson and I intuitively know the worst thing you can do for his model’s body type is to slap a sack on her and cinch the waist.  She needs structure, support, a silhouette that defines her waist without inflating her boobs to twice their actual size.  How could a professional designer not realize that?  It makes me feel like he was just being lazy — or assumed that if he passively let his client lead the way he’d be safe.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=571205045 Kent Roby

      I’m giggling at all the comments from the unborn fawns who are blasting the contestant who is “rocking one testicle”, and the judge who loves him!  We all really MUST meet for drinks, and SOON!

      • bitchybitchybitchy

        I think we need a Bitter Kittens Convention!

        • libraangel

          I think our suggestions – and taste level – are better than the judges!

      • mskgb

        I think Isaac wants to personally confirm AR’s “rocking one testicle” claim.

    • http://twitter.com/TrollfaceMcFart Trollface McGee

      What is it with AR’s idea that women want to wear giant grocery sacks on formal occasions?
      And good job to him and Emilio making large muscular arms look more oversized and fatter than should be. If they were honest they should have sent both of them home for those monstrosities (though AR should have had the auf for his previous “red carpet” grocery sack) but it’s PR.
      I’m glad you guys post these pics, the judging on Allstars is bad enough to keep me from watching.

    • Kate4queen

      AR’s was also a drab color. He should have talked her into something with a better neckline and more fitted-any fool could see that. I did shout at the T.V. last night for the first time this series. I also called the-let’s put them all through’ crap early.
      Annoying as Josh is, he does have the ability to listen to his clients and he made exactly what his lady wanted.Uli’s was lovely.Emilio-what were you doing? He either gets it right or he sabotages himself.
      AR should’ve gone home. It’s Anya all over again.

    • ThaliaMenninger

      I forgot to watch. Completely forgot. Oh well. After seeing these things, I’m not in the least sorry I missed it. A-R’s slopfest is a disgrace. He seems like a nice guy, but he’s been given a Get Out of Jail Free card too many times.

    • Stubenville

      Anthony Ryan’s looks like a strapless Korean wedding dress. That poor woman; she was so nice and it was so damn unflattering.

      And how were the clients assigned? Specifically, why did Emilio get the dark skinned client?

    • http://twitter.com/jen_canary Jennifer Ford

      I really just don’t understand Anthony Ryan’s overwhelming appeal even to the producers,though. I got Mondo and even Anya — they had stories,they were personalities, they were super-interesting-looking, but AR? He’s just… he’s *nice*? What am I not getting here?

      • libraangel

        Isaac is in love with him

        • http://twitter.com/jen_canary Jennifer Ford

          That isn’t really an answer since he’s not the producer. What do they think they get out of pushing AR? Because it isn’t interesting or dramatic, it’s just really weird.

    • http://twitter.com/MandySCG MandyJane

      As soon as I saw all four designs, I knew they’d have to let all of them into the finals, because there was no way they’d send Anthony Ryan home. I was really stunned by how bad the dress he made was. I have a similar shape as his model, and a similar desire to downplay my boobs… there’s no way I’d wear a dress like that anywhere.

      I was really pleasantly surprised by Josh. I’ve never been a fan of his, most of his designs seem pretty tacky to me, but that little dress was adorable and his model was super happy with it. I would have been just as happy if Uli won the challenge, they both did a good job. 

    • Kenisha Hill Phillips

      Dear Anthony Ryan,

      If a woman says that she wants to deemphasize her chest, do not give her shelf-boob.

      Pick up the pieces.

      Peace out,

      Nisha

    • j_anson

      …I don’t think the grey dress is very good, but that yellow dress is hideous.

    • rainwood1

      Uli should have won, but I’m not surprised at any of the BS the producers pull these days.  There’s no question that AR’s hideous excuse for a dress would have sent any other designer home.  

      Oh, and I didn’t mind the canine anus.  I have a yellow Lab and I’ve spent a good portion of my life seeing the same view.   

    • formerlyAnon

      Can’t quibble. Anthony Ryan’s committed the cardinal sin: Emphasized the EXACT THING the client wanted de-emphasized and did so in an unflattering way. AUF AUF AUF AUF!!!!

      Josh’s was cute, Uli’s was most appealing. Emilio’s was sloppy but a freaking wild success compared to Anthony Ryan’s.

      Mizrahi is the nerdy picked-upon kid who was his own worst enemy in 4th grade and lo, these many decades later, after considerable professional success, STILL manages to be his own worst enemy.

    • pylgrym

      Definitely convinced it’s fixed now. On the other hand, how could they have aufed any of these lovely, brave women. I think some diplomacy came into play, especially since the bad were just awful! Sometimes  they turn out designs not as good as the winners but those 2 were train wrecks. “oh, yes. My dress was designed by a loser.” I hated Emilio’s color. She looked like a black headed chartreuse bird I saw in Spain and not in a good way. Just because his model can wear garish colors, she shouldn’t have to do it.

      • guest2visits

        I think diplomacy may have played a part in the final decision too. I think Emilio made a harsh and garish looking dress
        from a color that could have looked beautiful on his client if designed differently.  It turned out kind of cheap instead.

    • m0r0

      Never too early in the day for a dog butt. 

    • http://twitter.com/poptartsjen Pop Tarts Jen

      Gah! Anthony Ryan should have gone home. Isaac said something about AR acting as the woman’s friend, and I was like, “Oh, hell no, nobody lets a friend go out in a dress that makes her boobs look like that!” SO unflattering on that poor woman. PLUS, I hate it when they don’t eliminate anybody. I could have watched another one of the bazillion shows on my DVR instead of that, if nothing was actually going to move forward. 

    • StelledelMare

      AR’s client needed a wrap dress in a jewel tone. That would’ve read perfect for a birthday party and still could’ve modestly covered her bust while not being unflattering. It could’ve even been long if she also wanted to cover her legs as well. Unfortunately all either of them kept thinking was strapless and AR just didn’t know how to handle her body type with that request with the time that they had and thus turned out this mess. But even under the time restraints, the basic design was all wrong from the get-go. Plus he didn’t even end up making a true strapless dress with those sad halter things.

    • Diane Lynch

      Anthony Ryan’s dress: A bedsheet wrapped around a pillow and tied with a bathrobe belt. The very embodiment of the term “walking snooze.” That was heinous.

    • OrigamiRose

      My jaw absolutely hit the desk when I scrolled down to Anthony Ryan’s disaster.  I mean… it’s just… so very wrong.

      Edited: Are you seriously saying that he wasn’t sent home for that thing? Oh my word.

    • CC06

      Uli has been on the top for most of the challenges and has never been on the bottom; yet PR has not once deemed her offerings good enough for a win?  Man, I would be so pissed if I were Uli. 

      • alyce1213

        Uli won twice (weeks 2 and 7). Josh was the only contestant who, until last night. hadn’t won.  
        I think she’s going to win the whole show, Anthony Ryan be damned.

        • MoHub

          Uli won’t win. She’s not a Lifetime property.

          • alyce1213

            Probably so, but I’d like her to win.

    • Lisa_Cop

      An interview with a former employee of a reality show. IT’S ALL THEATRE PEOPLE!! All these reality shows have story editors and directors squatting under counters telling contestants what to say. Remember Quiz Show? These shows are just as fake.http://www.onthemedia.org/2012/dec/28/reality-tv-even-faker-you-think/

    • jw_ny

      I haven’t watched the episode yet, but both AR and Emilio really had major fails on this one…both disgraces.  AR’s client looks huge…not so in her tee shirt and pants in the 1st pic.   She does not look happy at all.  Emilio’s seaming at the waist and bust is just awful, and that back is not flattering.  If they’d have sent either of them, or both, home, it’d been justifiable.

    • PaulaBerman

      Completely agree with your assessment from beginning to end. Uli’s was better but it was like falling out of bed for her. Josh really exceeded himself. Also, he toned down the story of his brother, which you could tell was a real source of pain for him, and didn’t make it all about him. I really liked him last night. Emilio’s was bad, but Anthony Ryan’s was ATROCIOUS, and if the game wasn’t rigged, he would have been auf. He made that poor woman look huge. Embarrassing.

    • judybrowni

      I have big boobs, too, and if AR had foisted that schmatta on me, I would have smothered him with them.

    • tessasouthworth

      In the “good old days” I used to be a total PR groupie, but I gave up on watching the series after whatever season Mondo was so wrongfully passed over for what’s her name. Never saw the next two seasons, although I did follow them here, like many others. When All-stars came on last year with so many favorites, I decided to give it a try, and I’ve ridden the wave into this season as well. But I tell you one thing, If Anthony undeservedly takes the whole enchilada, the only thing that would get me to watch a third season would be if Ms. Laura Bennett were one of the designers!

      • libraangel

        or if Laura were a judge!

        • OrigamiRose

          God, I love, love, love Laura.

    • swanpride

      Eh…truthfully, I think 1. That Josh’s dress is definitly the better one. It really compliments the client so much, it does a good job to underline her feminity….and I give him credit that he really heard what she had to say and didn’t even try to hide the prothese in any shape and form. Many other designers would have pushed for trousers, or would at least made the skirt long enough to hide the knees and make the prothese a little bit less obvious. Uli’s dress on the other hand…nice enough and her client is beautiful enough that you can dress her in anything, but putting someone with this kind of shoulders in a dress with actually accentuates the shoulders is badly done imho. It is the one “flaw” in the body of this woman, there was no reason to accent it that much. And between the bottom’s – both ugly, but I think Emilios is even worse. Because he got a perfect body to dress and somehow managed to make her look fat! The potatosack is bad too, but Anthony had the bigger challenge. I guess he learned now that emphasising the breast while hiding the size of the taille is not the right way to make a curvy woman look slimmer.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

      I’m so sick of skinny bitches and piddly ass men putting women over a size 10 in shapeless sacks with no fucking support. UGH. This is why I learned how to sew, people. One day I’ll audition for the show and if I make it, I’ll show them how it’s done. Even if I never make it to a “real woman” challenge, they’ll see how to dress plus-size women well in every damn outfit I’ll wear on the show. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

         I’ve always said that if I ever made it to the finale of this show, I’d want to use models ranging from a size 2 to an 18.  Just to make a point, because they are so damn annoying!

        • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

          Hell, I would because my clothes would probably look and fit better if I did that. SInce I mostly make clothes for myself and I’ve yet to make anything thing model-sized, a collection made by me modeled by larger women would look a lot better than anything I could put on tiny models. 

          • 3boysful

             Mary and Shannon, both of you go for it!  We kittens need someone we can root for wholeheartedly!

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             You and me both — I don’t work for any model shaped and sized people.  I actually think it would be really hard to design for models, because I start at the proportions of a person, looking at what they want to play up and what they want minimized.  I can design for an imaginary body, but it’s never proportioned like a model.

            • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

              If one of the models didn’t show up like that one time in season 1, I would totally pass my model to the model-less contestant and just model my design myself. It would turn out sooooo much better fitted. 

    • Trisha26

      I really didn’t like this episode at all. None of these women saw combat (my definition of a “veteran”) and what “special needs” did Joshua’s client have? She wanted to show the prosthetic – so her special needs were a short dress? It was just another circle skirt – his tired go-to design for his regular PR season. The dress was cute but it looked very junior to me, too young for the woman in question. Uli should have won hands down, even though she too defaulted to her standard design. (“Would have looked MUCh better with a feather embellishment though” – hahahah! Really Katie?) Emilio’s was a disaster – what happened to that cute flirty sketch he kept showing everyone? And Anthony…there are no words for that sack. None. His client deserves a combat medal for wearing that on national television.

      • OrigamiRose

        I don’t know if it is really fair to ‘fault’ the women because they have never been deployed in a combat area and insinuate they aren’t real veterans as a result.  The point of their service is a willingness to fight if needed, which they have demonstrated. Also, someone mentioned down-thread that Josh’s client may have a service dog for mental health reasons, which is a special need.  From the smile on her face in the pictures (confession: I forgot to watch, in case any details are wrong on my part), it sounds like if that was a challenge for her, he succeeded extraordinarily in helping her deal with it through fashion.

        I just wish Isaac the dog bit Isaac the designer on the ankle for that shameful performance on behalf of AR.  Unreal.

        • Trisha26

          Did I “fault” anyone? Not my intention if it came across that way. See my reply above regarding the entire “veteran” issue. We were told Josh’s client had special needs but not what they were and that he designed for them. Not to be flip but to address your point, you can’t design for someone with mental needs. If that’s indeed what her issue is then they shouldn’t have mentioned it – because it was darn confusing. It made Josh seem like a savior – “you designed for the woman with special needs,” especially because she was thrilled to show her prosthetic. If anyone there had special needs it was Anthony’s client – and he made them worse. So, so sad.

          • OrigamiRose

            you can’t design for someone with mental needs

            That’s such a silly statement, I can’t believe it was typed out and posted without hesitation. Fashion, style and beauty are vehicles people use to transcend their circumstances.  They empower, they flatter, they elevate one’s mood, self-esteem and feeling.  For you to blithely dismiss the notion that a veteran with special needs, be they physical (which we saw) or emotional (which we don’t know about for sure), can be designed for because her needs may be mental is unadultered hogwash.  A designer who listens to his or her client and creates a garment that speaks to who she is, inside and out, is doing precisely what you say can’t be done.  

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             A prosthetic is a special need.  The fact she wanted it shown does not change that.  For instance, in this case, he used a full skirt which would be easier to walk in, eliminating a secondary challenge to walking for a woman who already has one.  She also wanted it to be a point of pride — using the trim and sheer at the bottom draws your eye right to it, and the prosthetic joint right under it. 

            He could have chosen not to show it, assuming she wanted it hidden, which would have made her less happy with the dress.  He could have given her something that would be difficult to move in, he could have done a gown with tripping potential, he could have done a miniskirt that would have made it harder to use a service dog…. there were a lot of things that could have tripped him up in this case that would not have existed without her special needs.

            • pdquick

               What Shannon Stewart said. Well done.

      • alyce1213

        It’s unfortunate that you have such a narrow definition of “veteran.”  You must realize, of course, that not every serviceperson goes into combat, but each contributes to the safety and security of our country and supports the efforts of those in combat.

        • Trisha26

          Don’t want to get into an argument about what makes someone worthy of the title “veteran” – I totally understand it applies to all who serve in whatever capacity. However, in true reality show hype they were presented as “all they could be and more.”

          • http://twitter.com/Alloyjane Alloy Jane

            Oh please.  A veteran is defined as a former member of the armed services.  That’s why you have the term “combat veteran.”  There is no argument here.  Your personal semantics do not change the English language.

            One team, one fight.  Everything else is just a pissing contest.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

             So they aren’t all they could be because they didn’t go into combat?  I’ll make sure to tell my West Point Lt. brother-in-law that…

          • http://twitter.com/kerryev kerryev

            If you don’t want to get into an argument about it, don’t say something so asinine & sexist in comments on a blog written & visited by opinionated people.

        • pdquick

           You realize that a) women are not allowed into designated combat positions, and b) people in non-combat positions end up in combat fairly routinely, right? Please tell us you also recognize that your “special needs” complaint makes you a complete douche.

    • Lisa_Cop

      Isaac is not only doing what he is told but saying his lines with extraordinary conviction. His acting is quite amazing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1316070988 Roey Thorpe

      Like you guys, I was horribly embarrassed for Isaac.  I couldn’t believe he would defend such an awful dress that exaggerated the part of that woman’s body she most wanted to downplay.  It was ugly and unflattering and just a shame.  Isaac, you should butch up and stick to your high standards, because last night was just sad whoring for the camera.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      She said formal, but it could well have been day formal, rather than evening formal.

      As to the fabric, they didn’t give them money for good fabric for formals, apparently (Emilio was beside himself about how little fabric money they had, so I’m guessing $150 doesn’t get wonderful silks in great quantity).

    • guest2visits

      Whaaa…?   Don’t make me try to remember… drop a heavier clue!

    • voter1

      I so called that episode.  Anthony Ryan’s dress was a train wreck.  I’m a plus sized woman and if I had a designer making or designing a dress for me and they made me something that qualified for “Omar the Tentmaker” status, I would have walked off.  It was so obvious that he did not want to design for a larger woman.  

    • terpsichory

      I’m still mad they changed the schedule and aired Saving Private Ryan instead…

    • Willette Williams

      This season is truly draaaagggggging on! I actually tuned in at the beginning for a change (I usually wait until it’s half over so I can just see the finished designs) and realized that Peach and Wendy Pepper were on this season. Damn I truly blanked them out because this crap is taking so long to end. Anthony Ryan stole someone’s sheets from Bed Bath and Beyond for that dress! And as much as I love Emilio, that dress was a hot mess and he knew it!

    • Call me Bee

      Wow–I am really late to this party.  Since there are 430 comments already, I’m sure someone has said what I’m thinking:  Uli was robbed of an obvious win, I PO’d that no one (read:  AR and/or Emilio) went home for their absolutley awful dresses, it’s obvious that Isaac is the judge getting the payola from the producers to keep AR in the running.
      In the past, this would have made me acrimounious.  Now?  I couldn’t care less.  Really.   

      • Stubenville

        Well on the plus side, at least the Heinous Poufette knows how to sew a sleeve. 

        PS – I wonder if there’s some magic to the hairdo; it worked for Anya…

    • sweetsadness

      I agree with TLO. That poor lady was concerned about her boobs. Anthony Ryan made a large loose sack for them and then dangled it just below her belly button. He should have been booted like a marmot for that. But, of course, Isaac has the hots for him and the producers want him to win.

    • sweetsadness

      I liked Josh’s dress but it wasn’t a party dress at all or even a cocktail dress. 

    • http://twitter.com/Alloyjane Alloy Jane

      Ugh.  Really?  I’m probably going to actually watch this episode just to see Josh act like a human being.  And to see why the hell Emilio made that eye-searingly unflattering “dress.”

    • greyhoundgirl

      The real loser is AR’s servicewoman, who was quite attractive in her own clothes.

    • Lea Setegn

      YOU DO NOT PUT A PLUS-SIZE WOMAN IN THAT MUCH VOLUME.

      She’s a beautiful woman, but that dress makes her look 10 times her size. Anthony Ryan sucks.

    • Jaime Smith

       

      I didn’t realize how bad Emilio’s
      design was until I saw the stills; this is a dress I would expect to find at
      Rainbow. I’m still shaking my head at how much Isaac praised Anthony Ryan’s
      design, but the look on Georgina’s face was priceless. My DISH co-worker hasn’t
      seen this episode yet but I filled her in on the details. I want to go back and
      re-watch this; I’m glad I’m recording the season my DISH Hopper. There is over
      2,000 hours of entertainment space and since my family likes to watch their
      favorite programs at the same time I do, I can re-watch this episode in my
      bedroom while they watch their favorite programs in the living room at the same
      time, so no more fighting over the TV.

    • DeTrop

      I would have liked to hear what Carmen Mark Valvo had to say about AR’s travesty. They edited out any remarks from him. Isaac made it crystal clear that he’d brook no criticism of his crush so I’m thinking CMV’s remarks were critical.  Nothing like having a judge on stage and then ignoring him.  How insulting.

      Uli’s dress made her client look sexy. Too bad she couldn’t smile a little. I won’t go into her walk. Too many years in combat boots?????

      Josh’s lady looked elated.  The dress was a bit too young for her imo, but she being just a slip of a thing looked great.
      Loved her dog too. Josh came through big time.  Did anyone notice when he was interviewing his client that his eye make-up and eyebrows were so Hollywood?  Yikes!  He’s a good looking guy but his make-up and clothes are so OTT.

    • http://twitter.com/epenthesis Mike B.

      They kind of knew what they were doing by giving Josh a lady with a great sob story (she got about three times as much camera time as all the rest), yet still slender and fully capable of walking the runway. For that matter, giving the frontrunner a model who wants to hide her body is a pretty good way to whip up the suspense at the end. (Though other designers have done much, much better in similar situations.)

      I’m OK with the copout final decision, though. It’s hardly unprecedented for PR to find creative excuses for keeping people around. (Some may think of Uli unexpectedly winning the last S3 challenge, but I’m remembering Chloe’s big-butt dress being safe when Daniel won and Kara was eliminated for practically the same boring black dress.) And I don’t much mind AR because I don’t think he’s actually going to win–he’s less Anya Ayoung-Chee than Michael Costello. Just making it to the finals is his reward.

      • Lisa_Cop

        Chris Palu? Teacher’s pet who doesn’t win? Who knows what the story editors have in mind…..

    • mhleta

      Yes! Yes! Yes! Thank you! I swear, I’d think I was balls out crazy if it wasn’t for you guys reaffirming my every thought, but stating it sooo much more succinctly than the muddy notions swirling amidst my pre-menopausal bog of a brain. Most especially: 1) “this represented Josh toning down his natural impulses and actually serving his client’s needs while producing something she looks good in” 2) “She technically made a better, more stylish dress, but she could’ve done this one in her sleep.” 3) “that sack is one of the most hideous things we’ve seen on the show in quite some time.”
      And finally, muchos besos for this one: “We apologize for subjecting you to dog anus so early in the day, darlings.”

    • kikisayshi

      I HATE it when the judges’ favorite designer makes a dud and they are too sissy to cast an Auf! Ugh! Emilio’s dress was bad, but at least it was a good color and appropriate for his client’s event (if it had been made well). Anthony R just wrapped some fabric around his girl and fastened it with a belt. And if we’re going on history, Emilio has made far better clothes this whole season than Anthony Ryan has, so it is a clear decision to me. 

    • quiltrx

      Okay, Emilio and Anthony Ryan?  There is NO excuse.  I don’t watch the show these days, but when you say Emilio’s was thrown together at the last minute–well, I’d already tagged it as the result of some sort of error!  Embarrassing.

      And AR?  You had that beautiful fabric and managed to make this lovely lady look like an overstuffed couch.  Sometimes you have to step back and see what you’re doing is awful.

      Love both Josh’s (always had a soft spot for his cray, and this is really great) and Uli’s.  I’m a larger ‘real woman’ than these two ladies, and I could see myself in either look.  Nicely done.

    • DinahR

      I cringed when the one judge asked ‘did you want to show your prothesis’.  As if a normal person might want it hidden.  I loved her answer.  And I understand why a judge would want to know, but it would have been better to just ask her opinion of the dress and see where the answer led vs. trying to lead her to it.  It was especially annoying when the one client who did specify she wanted a particular spot downplayed was not listened to and given a ‘you should love your curves’ treatment from two size 00 women.    

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

         I actually liked that he just came out and asked.  I would have taken it that way if he’d said, “why didn’t you go long to cover anything she’d like hidden?” or some such bullshit. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UQHEKG5EDX4T6NMARUC565TPQ Amy

      I kinda figured they were ready to kick Josh to the curb until his client showed up. And they bonded. And the dog kept making appearances.

      I think Emilio is worthy of being in the final 3 but it’s Uli that I have always believed would win. Can any of these boys really create an entire collection where each if not every piece is fashioned with skill and effortless beauty?  And if I hear someone say AR’s design is “young and chic” one more time…it better come with a subtitle that says “translation: redone, probably seen in some capacity at urban outfitters, boring but not hideous”. Bleh.

    • geeeque

      Does Isaac get a cash bonus if AR wins? His behavior bordered on hysterical, I thought he was going to hold his breath or something. And just to give AR the benefit of the doubt, maybe you need to be a girl to know this, but a flat seam followed by fucking pleats across the chest is like pointing a big flashing arrow at one’s tits. And not in a sexy, Marilyn Monroe-plunging neckline way-but in a torpedo tits a la Divine way. Fuck, I’m a 36C and the second I see pleats on the chest I keep moving.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

         No, you do not need to be a girl to know that, not if you expect to make a living off women’s wear.  And I agree on the pleats (I’m a 36 DD and I like them to look it!) — the only thing worse is ruffles.  So, yeah… it could have been worse.  He could have done ruffles all over the bust. 

      • http://twitter.com/LAMusing LAMusing

        I know, right?

    • elikit

      Wow, AR’s dress actually looks better in the pictures than it did in motion on the show… which – still SO NOT GOOD. Shut up Isaac. This dress made his client look like a sack of boobs. This is one where he should have used his design skills and people skills to get his client into something better and instead he just gave up. This was a hideous mess of a dress, and he should be sitting at home right now, weeping. 

      But the show clearly wants to give him the win so ugh whatever. We have to go through this charade. 

      I loved Josh’s look, but probably mostly in contrast to the stuff he usually makes. I honestly think he should have gone home several episodes ago. But this look was lovely, and a great fit for his client.

      Uli’s client was a bit of a cipher and didn’t seem to want anything, but she still got a lovely dress. I’m not entirely sure it’s wedding appropriate but the way it showcased her client’s tattoo was just gorgeous.

      And Emilio? I don’t care for his dress, but it still wasn’t anywhere near as awful as Anthony Ryan’s dress. If anything, they should have had a Project Runway All Stars first and just cut Emilio and Anthony Ryan and let Josh and Uli battle it out. But we all know Uli would win that one.

       

    • R. L.

      Remember Octavia Spencer’s dresses during awards season???  THAT is how you dress a full-figured woman.  NOT in a sack with athletic bandages. Send AR to Tadashi Shoji for a few years.

    • jw_ny

      My opinion of Isaac’s taste level has greatly diminished after seeing how he raved over AR’s design.  His obsession with AR is obvious and ridiculous.  He’s not going to be your little boy toy Isaac, so get over him!  I guess lust is blind…

    • http://www.facebook.com/jacoryd JaCory Deon

      From where I sat, AR’s dress was the worst and easily auf-able but since they’ve decided he was the winner, no dice.  Still it was a bit amusing to see Isaac defending him so tough against the other judges, especially since it was clear they were NOT feeling his dress.  That said, what is happening to Emilio?  Has he seen the writing on the wall and decided to phone it in because he’s really slipping the past few challenges.  Josh was the deserved winner and if only he could use that sort of restraint in all his designs, he’d be a better artist.  Uli’s was good too but she can do that half awake.

    • http://twitter.com/MajorBedhead MajorBedhead

      So late to the party here, but man, that might have been the nail in the All Star coffin for me. How AR wasn’t aufed for that monstrosity is just infuriating. That dress is hideous and the poor girl wearing it looked like…well, I don’t even know what. The straight across the bust strap and the belt right under the boobs was just a awful idea.

      I’m going to have to listen to that On The Media podcast now. That sounds fascinating. I knew there was an agenda but I had no idea the thing was actually scripted. 

    • Girl_With_a_Pearl

      What I don’t understand is why PR as it is now produced, do the producers bother designating a “favorite” and then making sure that favorite will win.  Why don’t they just give the fan favorite some monetary prize at the reunion show (which they seem to have ruined if it’s even on anymore) and then let the best designers compete because they really are the best designers.  There have been many designers that I liked better than some of the winners, even back in the Magical Elves days, but I wouldn’t want them to have won the whole thing just because I liked them or they had a good story.  

      • libraangel

        When were the Magical Elves times?

        • Girl_With_a_Pearl

          Seasons 1-5 and when the show was on Bravo.  I did like the Seth Aaron season (7), otherwise, it’s been downhill ever since the change.

    • libraangel

      Yesterday I watched ‘Fashion Police – trends’ (I know, I know. Guilty pleasure)Anyway, they showed some designers’ Spring runway shows. I know the PR All Stars designers are “newbies”, but this is what they aspire to be, and sorry (and I love Uli), none of them are even half way there – yet?!

    • conniemd

      AR’s hideous design took a woman who looked like a size 16 in her T-Shirt who had big boobs (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing) and made her look like a size 28. Not only did he  not make her boobs less noticeable as requested, he made her look superplus size, which she wasn’t. The boobs looked like a function of her being so heavy. What an embarrassing hideous mess that should no idea how to dress an slightly heavy woman. You’ve featured many red carpet pictures of even larger women who looked gorgeous.

    • ccm800

      AMEN TLo – Esp on the Isaac crit -embarrassing. The real deal to me is that AR could have won nearly any of the challenges that he did win – though I am not personally a fan of him or his work – but the over praise is ridiculous! If you cant deliver producer pushed script without making it SO obvious then you should be replaced as a judge OR the producers should back the fuck off – something other than what is going on now. The thing is. There is no real impetus that I can see to have all the producer steered scripting. None of the contestants bar one or two in PR history ever went on to real success that would benefit the production company and no one is so beloved that they have to win – in fact they choose contestants that are often not fan faves – SO i just don’t get it. No one suffers more from an inability to EDIT THEMSELVES more than Barnum Murray

    • ccm800

      Oh and the AR is indefensibly wretched. 

    • Why_do_I_even_watch_this_show

      As a larger busted woman, it pains me every time I look at Anthony Ryan’s model.   There is no possible way it could be called flattering or modern.  The most painful part was watching her in the “waiting room” constantly tugging and pulling on the top of the dress.  I hope she threw it away and purchased something beautiful and flattering for her birthday.  I also hope larger women everywhere don’t start wearing such things around, citing Isaac as a source.  Now I know why I waited to watch this episode until Sunday…

    • Fanny Wolston

      Josh dresses like a 9 year old boy, pulls out his past sob stories and makes his mascara run. His client looked like little bo peep in mourning too. That outfit was his best effort to date, and he makes it to the final four? BS whose yer daddy josh?  ANthony Ryan’s gal asked for strapless and to hide her boobs, and AR thought that would work? Uli’s dress would have looked great on her instead.

      Josh in the finals, again, undeserved no matter how much he sounds like barbara stanwyck.

      • UglyTalents

        Perfecto! Josh = Barbara Stanwyck’s voice, Joan Crawford’s eyebrows, and Carmen Miranda’s dress sense.

    • VivianAdvanced

      I knew from Carolyn Murphy’s sly little grin when she asked if they’d made their decision that nobody was getting the ax. BOO!!! These are supposedly “all stars” so the bar should be much higher; therefore, either Emilio or Anthony Ryan should have been sent away for their atrocities. Yes, I was thinking that Isaac must be head over heels for Anthony Ryan to keep fawning over that circus tent he made for that poor woman. I didn’t notice that she was that much overweight when she first appeared on the aircraft carrier, yet she looked enormous in that dress. I agree with The Beautiful Georgina that those white straps looked really binding, almost straight-jacket-like. And Emilio’s yellow thing looked like a 7th grade Home Ec project. It really takes away from the intrigue of the contest if the producers are going to determine who should stay or go regardless of who did the best or worst job. Perhaps they were thrown for a loop when Joshua actually came up with the best design. I’m sure they thought he’d be next to go. While I liked Uli’s dress better, Josh really fulfilled the requirements of the challenge. I was actually happy for him getting the win.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPWSQ2BDU5XJIA23AMYVBRWZBA Eric

      Any way I can say I’m sorry & get my block removed?

    • Janet B

      I didn’t watch the episode, again.

      I gasped when I saw AR’s dress.  The poor woman, that dress AND the AR hair?
      Josh had been so darn pleasant most of the season, and now he shines in another “real woman” challenge – congratulations Josh.

      Uli’s dress is a perfect Uli dress.  I can see why T Lo thought she should have won.

      • http://twitter.com/LAMusing LAMusing

        oh heavens – I forgot the hair – wth was that?

    • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

      josh’s look is a hot air ballon.  and the battleship grey color pushes it into dirigible territory.  highly appropriate for the military theme.

      • libraangel

        Do you mean AR’s dress?

        • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

          oops, my bad.  AR’s of course.

    • pdquick

      It’s sort of like when Isaac comes on the Chevy commercial and praises the Malibu.

      • http://frankbettecenter.org/ sleah_in_norcal

        exactly. “it’s a fresh young car, so flattering to a woman’s body…”

    • http://twitter.com/LAMusing LAMusing

      Anthony Ryan’s dress was hideous.  Just a terrible design.  When he first suggested “strapless” I about fell over.  No busty woman wears strapless, they need the support and lift of a good bra.  And frankly any woman not in top shape will have puffy overflow under the arms and at the back.  Then the pleats… oh dear God the pleats… on a busty woman!? Did he think those pleats would lay flat in a long flowing line?  Uh… no.  Her large bust will push the pleats out, distorting them.  And they add even more bulk.  Awful on every level. Most stunning to me however was Mr. Mizrahi’s reaction to this horrible dress.  So are the producers making him say that or does he want to date AR?  Because nothing else explains his heated and near hysterical support of this dress. Shame on him either way.Uli’s was beautiful.  And yet again she’s the bridesmaid.  I must say though that Josh;s was one of his best efforts.  I’ve really been wondering why he was still here, but this was charming.  Loved his restrained use of the print and the flirty hem.  Emilio’s did look very sloppy, but the color looked good and the basic shape was fine.  .

    • UglyTalents

      Schmaufing wouldn’t have been a serious enough penalty for Anthony Ryan. Putting one of our country’s heroic soldiers in that sack surely amounts to some kind of treason. And I’m so sick of the “no one is going home” ploy, which I knew was coming as soon as I saw that Josh was not going to be send-home-able. (‘Cause you know that was the script they had going on.) … I’m surprised the producers didn’t steal his fabric or put bleach in his dye bins or push him down some stairs or something.