Elisabeth Moss Shooting “Mad Men”

Posted on December 05, 2012

Check out Miss Peggy, looking all late-6os fabulous!

Elisabeth Moss filming ‘Mad Men’ at Little Dom’s restaurant in Los Angeles.

Okay, we lied. That’s more late ’60s frumpy, but it would have been considered stylish at the time. We’re pretty damn close to experts on Mad Men costuming, which means we can tell you she’s worn that coat several times on the show in the previous season, most memorably when she told Joan she was moving in with her boyfriend and when she congratulated Megan on acing the Heinz pitch, but we admit, we’re drawing a blank on the suit. We’re pretty sure it’s new, but we’re not a hundred percent on that. Any eagle-eyed Mad Style readers want to chime in and let us know if she’s worn it before? Love how the shoes totally look like they could come from a present-day Prada collection. Check out Beardy McCounterCulture there. And Ted Chaough’s Beatle boots. Must be about ’68 by now.


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  • I hate her hair so much.

    • Pants_are_a_must

      It’s so obvious we’ve arrived at a stage where the Mad Men actresses don’t give a damn anymore and just wear wigs.

      • CozyCat

        Or they’ve found a hairdresser who still caters to the “weekly wash and set” crowd.  Some of my relatives used to look like that.  An ever decreasing number still do.

        It’s an incredibly aging look isn’t it?  But maybe that’s what a woman had to do to get professional respect in the  60s.

        • Pants_are_a_must

          Nah, this is just a full-on wig. As far as I know, none of them are method. 

          As for the “professional” look: Oh, absolutely. In all fields.

          • AmeliaEve

             I’ve actually been a little peeved that they haven’t sprung for more wigs on the second-string actresses. I remember thinking that when Betty went to the Weight Watchers meeting, the other women’s hair mostly looked too modern. They get them dressed right, so they need to get the hair right. Principals may commit to period hair during the season, but the extras should get some help.

          • I’ve actually been an extra on the show and we got full-on hair, make-up, nails, and costuming done for us. Maybe that was just a lazy day…?

          • AmeliaEve

             Interesting! But to really do a style like Ms. Olsen is sporting here, you have to have the shorter haircut and the perm. You can’t get this look as a one-day thing with a normal contemporary hairstyle. Yes, there were some appropriate up-do’s for long hair in the early ’60s, but they weren’t the thing you saw on most women. So a Weight Watchers meeting full of women with French twists is still anomalous.

        • To be fair, it’s only really aging because the only women we see with that hairstyle now are really old. My mom’s yearbook is full of teenagers with that exact hairstyle. It’s crazy ugly to our eyes today, but in the 60’s, that was considered chic. I think this is Peggy in a style revolution.

          • Nelliebelle1197

             But it was aging in the 60s. They just liked it.

            As to the wig issue, EVERYONE wore wigs in the 60s.

          • I can ask my mom when I next see her if she thought it made girls look old at the time. I just know that most of the girls in Bridgeport, CT were sporting that look in the mid 60’s yearbooks.

      • Chickadeep

         Keep in mind that in 1968, lots of younger women actually WORE wigs as a fashion thing — either a wiglet or fall to supplement their own hair or a full-on wig. In part because younger working women didn’t have time for salon styling anymore, and partly because maintaining those styles required sleeping in rollers and/or time under a bonnet dryer, plus truckloads of Dippity Do and Aquanet. Wigs were easy in comparison.

        It seems crazy but I remember seeing wig ads and wigs in editorial fashion shoots in the mainstream fashion mags of the time (Glamour, Mademoiselle) and I remember twentysomething women wearing them. It looks like a cheat to modern eyes, but it’s actually historically accurate!

        • Pants_are_a_must

          That may be, but I really was commenting on how in earlier seasons, the hair was recognizably theirs, wiglets or no wiglets.

          • Chickadeep

            Yep. Probably easier to tame her locks into the short-bangs-‘n-ponytail or short flip than it is to create the late ’60s big hair helmet look. If the show runs that long, I’m expecting to see Peggy in a modified Jane Fonda circa Klute shag.

          • Jackie4g

            That will be closer to 1971-1974. I wonder if the show will go that long. I hope not. They have done such an amazing job with the late 50s and 60s. I hope the show will continue, but I also hope the time frame will not progress into the 1970s. 

          • ecallaw1977

            Ooooh, I think it would be awesome if we got to see them progress over that much time.

          • Jackie4g

            Yes with respect to seeing the characters play out their lives, but not in the respect that living at that time of general ennui was not an easy thing to experience. People weren’t happy. They wanted change, and no one could really put a finger on exactly how to accomplish that.

          • StillGary

            I gotta see Betty in a caftan!

          • Marjean Fieldhouse

            and that silly pink tape you used to tape your bangs to your forhead and your pin curls to your cheeks while they were setting

          • Jackie4g

            Yes, but if you didn’t get that pink tape exactly right, your  bangs would dry with a crimp in them!

          • filmcricket

            Well, Hendricks has been wearing wigs since the beginning, but she frequently wears them out and about in public, too, so.

          • Pants_are_a_must

            From the beginning? Truly? I always had the impression she had to have constant color touch-ups so she could have Joan hair, at least partially.

          • onefifteen

            Yeah, I read an interview with her years back where she said she got her hair dyed every 2 weeks so that it stayed vibrant.

          • filmcricket

            I’m sure she does have touch-ups, as red hair is difficult to maintain; it fades much faster than other colours. But you can tell just by looking at it that it’s not all real, and she has said as much in interviews that there are false pieces used. Here’s a link to her hair in general: http://www.hairlosshell.com/christina-hendricks-loves-hair-pieces  And here’s an interview where she talks about wearing pieces on the show: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/item_m4WiiIQN20sjAUN59aA52H

          • CDL CO

             It is cut and colored frequently.

          • filmcricket

            See above once the comment passes moderation. She’s admitted in print to wearing pieces on the show.

          • CDL CO

             I work on set and assure you, wigs are not used. They’re haircuts. A lot of rollers, teasing and spray are used. The styles are just a bit different this next season.

        • Jackie4g

          Yes, it is acurate. I was there and yes, I wore wigs on bad hair days.

        • Qitkat

          You’ve got the details quite right, down to the bonnet dryers, Dippity Do, and wigs and falls. Good times!

          • ccinnc

             When did the concentrated-orange-juice-can-curlers start? That was my time. 🙂

          • Qitkat

            My first college roommate was already using them in fall of 1964. My first introduction to them. She had naturally curly hair, longer than mine at the time, and the cans helped straighten the hair somewhat. She said her dad “made” them for her. I never did understand out how she could sleep with them. Wish I could post an old picture. It’s hilarious!

          • DeborahJozayt

            A roommate of mine did that (Late 90s, though.) but she used to sleep sitting upright. She used heat rollers and was afraid she’d catch her pillow on fire. There were even burn marks on the walls from her leaning.

          • random_poster

            Okay, that’s just strange. Made me laugh out loud, though!

          • Chickadeep

            It’s funny…I was really young at the time (Kindergarten in ’68) and my mom was a fashion-avoiding Hippie, but I remember being absolutely *fascinated* by fashion magazines and the styles of the big kids on the school bus, older relatives, babysitters, etc. around that time. Maybe because it was sort of exotic?  I even remember trying to re-create the impossible hairdos and begging for white go-go boots and one of those clear plastic mushroom-shaped umbrellas with a matching raincoat…alas, a fashion wish that never came true. 🙂

          • jhedman

             Same age here, same fascination for those bubble umbrellas.  When we finally got one I realized it was dysfunctional because if you were under the bubble too long, it would fog up and you couldn’t see a thing.  But I also wanted the go-go boots, etc… never got those, alas. It’s weird having lived through this as a child seeing it again so accurately portrayed.  I recognize so many things.

        • Corsetmaker

          That’s true. I had a couple of hairpieces in my dressing up box in the early 70s that my mum had discarded. 

          I also remember my mum having one a portable bonnet dryer – you wore the dryer like a shoulder bag and it connected with a tube to a plastic shower cap-like thing.

          • Ozski

             My Mom had one of those! It was big, pink and oval and I remember being fascinated by it as a kid in the early 70’s!

          • H2olovngrl

            We still have one up at our cabin.. a relic from a bygone time. Last time I used it to dry our little dog. He loved it!

          • Chickadeep

             Dog in a bonnet dryer sounds like a photo op to me. 🙂

          • NDC_IPCentral

             *ahem* I had one of those – believe the manufacturer was Sunbeam – and kept it for a VERY long time, into the 80s.  It fit into a round case that looked like a hat box.  that was definitely the way to dry your wet, curler-set hair.

          • H2olovngrl

            Our cabin originally belonged to my husband’s folks, and they bought it in 1980, so clearly my mother-in-law was still using it then, as well. It worked like a charm for drying our bishon-poodle mix, just last year!

          • formerlyAnon

            Yup. Sunbeam. Closet shelf, master bedroom in my mom’s house (probably still there). I remember feeling SO hip when I got a blow dryer and no longer had to borrow it.

            ETA: and you could dry your nails with the exhaust(?) that blew out of a little plastic grill on the part where you set the temperature.

        • shopgirl716

          I remember my mom wearing wigs and frosted hair.  Blech.

        • Jacqueline Wessel

          I slept in rollers for years…giant ones to straighten out my curls. Often my hair was still a little wet when I went to bed. I also used to detach the hose from the bonnet of the dryer and use it like a blow dryer is used today. It’s why I am convinced that I invented the blow dryer.

          • barbiefish

            I think the whole bonnet dryer-blow dryer evolution has been discussed here before — but here goes anyway.  My mom had and regularly used a Wahl blow dryer that she bought in a beauty supply place.  It was a big clunky black plastic thing (very heavy plastic like Bakelite) and it was quite heavy — not nearly as powerful as modern blow dryers but definitely the same animal.  She was using it in the 1950s when I was a kid and for some reason I think it dated back to the 1940s when she was an airline stewardess (“flight attendant” for you youngens).

        • editrixie

          I never could understand the sleeping in rollers thing. When my mom tried to make me do it, it hurt so bad! After that I was all hippie chick kid and they couldn’t get me to cut my hair. But yeah, I remember even girls at school wearing falls and bumps.

        • H2olovngrl

          I Remember my mom and aunts having wigs, and falls. My husband’s mom still has some of hers. (Ew). It was very common at that time. Between 1966 and 1970, my mom went from the full flip to a very short pixie, and i believe when she was not sporting her natural pixie cut, she used falls to make it look like a ponytail. She looked a lot like Anne Hathaway, so the pixie really worked on her, but I also remember a super curly wig that was god-awful!

        •  My mother came home with a wig in 1969-70, probably just for fun. When my little brother saw her he burst into tears. She never wore it again.

      • gabbilevy

        She’s got a visible part. Am I naive, or isn’t that impossible with a full wig?

        •  Possible with a very expensive wig- the best ones can be styled  properly and look convincing unless you’re very close.

        • Dot

          You’re not naive — the front part looks like Lizzie’s own part/hair. She may have a fall for the poof in the back, though. I disagree with the assertions that Peggy is wearing a full wig here.

        • DeborahJozayt

          Wigs nowadays are pretty freaking awesome. You can get netting to match your skintone, or apply powder to make it match. John Travolta’s been wearing wigs for years and I never knew until recently. 

          • onefifteen

            He does? I had no clue!

          • DeborahJozayt

            Ya! If you google John Travolta balding you’ll see all sorts of pics alongside some of the good and bad pics he’s worn over the year. 

      • MichaelStrangeways

        Actors, unless they are HUGE A List stars, don’t get much say in the matter.

        You wear what you are told to wear, though most costume/hair/make-up designers work with the actors so they are comfortable with the design.

    • As one who was around back then — I was in Manhattan, but not in the ad biz at that point — I gotta say that this hairstyle is NOT 1968. It’s difficult now to grasp how incredibly fast styles changed in those days, and how pronounced the difference was between the old guard and the new. The once-a-week wash and set was still popular with housewives and ladies above, say, 30 or 35, but by ’66-’67  women younger than that — and particularly in a cutting edge place like NYC —  were wearing straight unset hair. Young hippie-type women grew theirs long, business types often wore it like Anna Wintour wears hers today (as did I), and quite a few went gamin a la Twiggy. 

      Maybe given Peggy’s conservative Catholic upbringing their keeping her frumpy and out of fashion on purpose?

      •  No offense, but your memories and your singular experiences don’t speak for an entire generation of people. This always comes up in the Mad Men and Mad Style posts; people applying their 40-year-old memories or limited experiences as the definitive take on the styles of the period. People were more diverse than your memories allow and the island of Manhattan was not full of women sporting only Wintour-style bobs, ironed hippie hair or flips from end to end. It was, and still is, more diverse than that. As we noted elsewhere in this comments section, all you have to do is google “1968 yearbook pictures” to see that plenty of young women were still sporting the hair helmet as late as ’68 and you can look at plenty of TV shows from that year to see that plenty of women in Peggy’s age group were also still sporting them. It’s true that Peggy was never the cutting edge type with her fashion, but this still would have been considered fashionable for a career woman in her late 20s at the time.

        • not_Bridget

          Thanks for that Googling suggestion!  Those yearbook pictures were eye-searingly ugly.  Peggy’s hair definitely fits into one of the “conservative businesswoman” categories of the age. I don’t blame the actress if she’s wearing a wig–remember how long it took for her to grow out those dreadful bangs? 

          My own yearbook picture (class of ’66) was so bad that I decided to stop having my hair cut.  Aside from the occasional trim, I just let it go until 1979.  But I was not living a corporate lifestyle…..I still think the Mad Men hairstyles show less high teasing than was common–but that was a damned ugly look.  The hairspray that made those looks possible is probably illegal by now–something about hydrocarbons.  And the actors have enough respiratory problems from those herbal cigarettes.  

        • Qitkat

          In general, I think you are right. The diversity has always been there. However, I think scripted television shows have rarely presented style on the cutting edge, rather, they are looking at the recent past, also considering the time lag for writing and shooting. (An exception might be Laugh-In or live variety shows.) My guess is that if you could poll the BK’s who were coming into the work force in the later half of the sixties, especially college graduates, you might find that in most fields, many of us had moved on from this type of hairstyle, and were trying to be very up-to-date. While we always view the past through our own experiences, doesn’t it mean something that many of us here, from all walks of life, who were twenty-something and working at this time, seem to be saying that this was a dated look, if indeed this is 1968?

          •  We’re not suggesting this look was cutting edge, just fashionable. And TV shows have always been pretty good about keeping their characters fashionable. Besides, if we can find countless yearbook pictures of women ten years younger than Peggy here sporting the same hairstyle, that means she’s doing pretty well for herself on the style front.

            No offense, but no, just because some people in the comments section make a claim that this is dated, doesn’t mean something to us, unless they can prove they’re experts on the period. The costume designers of this show ARE experts on the period and we’ll always place our trust in them over someone’s memories. And while we’d never claim we’re experts on the period, we have done extensive research on it and whenever a claim like the one above gets made, our research almost always proves it wrong. The bottom line: no one can claim their take is the definitive one just by virtue of being alive during that period.

          • Qitkat

            My saying that my experiences were different is far from the same thing as saying that mine is the definitive take, or that I am claiming to be an expert. And I never intended to imply that either. So if you are reading that into my comments, it’s a matter of miscommunication. I have always been very impressed with the extremely high level of authenticity exhibited by not only the costume designers on Mad Men, but same authenticity shown by the set designers. And I do understand that the two of you have done extensive research, and I’ve always appreciated that. I actually love your take on the entire show. It’s very thoughtful and written with much wit and intelligence.

            My point was only that among the women I was associated with during the late sixties, most of us had a different look. I didn’t know anyone in advertising or in a strict corporate setting either, where the dress standards are probably more conservative. I didn’t work in NYC. For a while I sold clothes in a junior department of a fashionable department store, but never considered myself to actually be in the fashion industry, although we were expected to present ourselves as very up to date. I also worked in a federal government office where I suppose we could have dressed as Peggy is here, but most of us in our twenties didn’t, preferring shorter skirts, long straight hair, and shopping in boutiques in Georgetown. I had friends who worked in the airline industry selling reservations, not in the public eye, who could dress pretty much as they pleased. And they wore more cutting edge than this look. I knew young women who worked on Capitol Hill in Washington DC. Some of them got away with wearing mini skirts. 

            So my experience was different. Not definitive. Nor an expert. Different. 

          • I’m not talking about your comments. I’m talking about the one that started this conversation: “this hairstyle is NOT 1968…by ’66-’67  women younger than that — and particularly in a cutting edge place like NYC —  were wearing straight unset hair. Young hippie-type women grew theirs long, business types often wore it like
            Anna Wintour wears hers today (as did I), and quite a few went gamin a
            la Twiggy”

            And other such comments in this thread.

          • Qitkat

            Well, you gave me a direct reply, so I answered it. Thoughtfully, I hoped.

        • NDC_IPCentral

           My 1968 high school yearbook is in the other room, and you bet, there was teasing to raise the crown and helmet hair, too.  In fact, one of my classmates has a version that pretty well imitates Peggy’s ‘do here.  I had already gone to the short haircut that would become my choice for the past 25 years, though I had problems with my bangs back then – needed a curler in them to tame my strong wave.

          Now, of course, I have virtually none – thanks, chemo!

      • Qitkat

        You’re absolutely right. In 1964 I had the teased short helmet hair more like this picture of Peggy for my high school graduation picture, as did most of my classmates. Immediately I began to grow my hair out, long, straight, often ironed, after trying the Twiggy look first, cut by a dorm-mate. I had almost the longest hair of my life during some time I also spent in Manhattan in 1969.

        • H2olovngrl

          Hmmm, I dunno, in my mom’s 1966 yearbook she has a very stylish flip yet several of her classmates, including her best friend, were still sporting the helmet head, but this also could be attributed to having different kinds of hair. My mom had some seriously glorious auburn hair. Another thing to consider is for those of us who are remembering 1966 or so from the age of say a high school graduate, my mom and others around late high school early college years, were not as old as Pegggy is supposed to be here, so it stands to reason she may not be on the cutting edge of style. Incidentally, my mom went to a high school in Southern California, so there is that.

      • MoHub

         I saw the picture and thought more like 1965-66. At least that’s the way I remember it. I had a page-boy with bangs in 1968, started growing it out, and had it long and center-parted by 1970.

        • Sara__B

          That’s what I thought, too, but I was going to a small town high school in 1968, and I have no idea what young career women were doing with their hair.

      •  My mother in law still has a weekly wash & set & she was a chic young matron in her late 30s then.

    • judybrowni

      Yeah, but I can open my high school year book and find it on every other page: in 1968, no less.

  • YousmelllikeAnnaWintour

    Are we sure that’s Peggy and not Alice from “The Brady Bunch”?

    •  It does kind of look like something Alice would wear on a date with Sam, doesn’t it?

      • YousmelllikeAnnaWintour

        That hairdo is giving me some scary flashbacks.

      • Omigod, YES! You guys are awesome.

        I love the idea that Alice and Sam had really hot sexual chemistry.

        •  Alice was just after Sam’s meat.

  • decormaven

    She’s not worn the suit before, or used that purse or shoes. I also recognize the coat and am thankful she’s not wearing that fugly hat with it. Those look like Villager shoes. Will have to do a little checking on the purse. That’s some serious helmet hair, though.

  • miagain

    omg… she looks like all my Junior High lady teachers!! And it was Junior High folks, none of this Middle School stuff!!

  • MissMariRose

    Those shoes look like the ones Queen Elizabeth always wears.

  • Kayceed

    Raising a can of Aquanet in tribute!

  • Le_Sigh

    Maybe its a wig?  Or hairpiece helpers?  I think her actual hair is still a bit shorter than that.  I think.

  • I think my mom had that outfit in a yellow/gold in 1967.  At least I’ve seen pictures of her in something very similar.  I know she had those shoes.  But as for hair, Mom was a “flip” girl.

  • mommyca

     No, I don’t remember seeing that suit before…. I love the purse!!

  • And of course, the shoes and the bag match. 

  • Pants_are_a_must

    60s or nowadays, those shoes are hideous.

    •  Maybe hideous now, but back then they’d have been a welcome relief from stiletto heels.

    • ccinnc

       Terribly unflattering to her legs as well.

      • Melissa Brogan

        That’s all I’ve been thinking. I know Elisabeth/Peggy has some pretty great legs, but her shoes aren’t doing them any favors in these.

  • I think y’all are spot on (as usual!) with the wardrobe observations – older coat, new suit (but I’m not going to claim to be eagle-eyed). I kind of like it – if it had a more closely tailored rather than boxy silhouette, I’d want to snap it up for my lawyer wardrobe (though then it might skew a little flight attendant – reds and blues in a suit always remind me of flight attendants for some reason; maybe because Avianca+Jetblue). Love that stand-up mandarinish collalr. 
    For a hot minute I thought Ted was Ken – they’re kind of similar in their personal color schemes, aren’t they? I wonder if that’s referencing them having a similarly functional relationship together – or if it’s meant to contrast a dysfunctional working relationship against the Ken/Peggy groove. It’s all up in the air as yet.
    Do we know when Season 6 is premiering yet?

    • lovelyivy

       I was just thinking I’d totally rock the blazer, open with a white tank and some jeans and cute red flats. I love the gold buttons!

      • Qitkat

        That sounds like a really cute look, using *vintage*. Though I’m not sure how well the jacket would hang, being open, with the double breast. Sigh, my own high school/college years being vintage. In my head, I’m often feeling that young though.

        • The last time I went into a “vintage” store, in Athens, GA a few months ago, I found things I’d had in college (early 90s). Depressing.

          • H2olovngrl

            Oh no, that was grunge, straight out of the movie “Singles” here in Southern California!

          • Yes, definitely! That’s why it scared me when I saw flannel shirts and flowered rompers from Express considered ‘vintage.’

    • kschwarting

      I wore a blue dress with a red scarf recently (part of my own lawyer wardrobe), and someone thought I was a flight attendant.  Your observation is spot-on.

      • I have this great red, white, and blue chiffon scarf with polka dots and stripes and every time I put it on, I look at myself and see a flight attendant. Le sigh. Just owning it. 

  • Chickadeep

    Is it wrong to have a nostalgic little squee over the matching bag and shoes? The show has caught up to the point in my life where I started noticing fashion (about the time I started school — agree that it must be ’68 here) and it is surprisingly familiar-looking to me now. Not adoring Peggy’s helmet hair and the whole ensemble reads as a little dowdy, but with very few exceptions, Peggy has *always* been a little dowdy…she’s just a more expensive kind of dowdy now. She used to dress a little young in Seasons 1-2, and now it seems she’s overcorrected a bit.

    In other news, Beardy McCounterCulture stole Peggy’s Power Color!  And as for Ted’s footwear: didn’t Beatle Boots have Cuban heels and a stretchy gusset? 

    • Ashley Rae Sebastian

      Yes- those are NOT “Beatle boots”. T&L, come at me. 

  • twocee

    That second picture – what is she holding in her hand?  I KNOW it’s not an I-Phone, but it sure looks like one!

    • shirab

      Cigarette case and a box of cigarettes, maybe?

    • Chickadeep

       It is indeed a smartphone and cigs — probably her own, in between shots.

    • MK03

      Looks like an iPhone to me. They’re on shooting breaks, after all.

  • My mother’s hair was styled like that for her high school graduation picture in 1968. She said her mother took her to a salon and they teased it to heaven and it really was a helmet head. 

    • Qitkat

      Your mom and I apparently graduated together!

  • She has definitely never worn that suit before.

    • Chickadeep

      Yep – the coat rings a bell, but not the suit. Still, the suit *does* have that vaguely military tailoring she’s been gravitating toward in recent seasons, esp. when she’s revving herself up for a big thing at work.

  • teensmom99

    I thought I had seen the suit but can’t remember when. Perhaps towards the end of the season when she was dressing a little better?  And my mom definitely had those shoes!  I was hoping that with her career move, she’d get a little less frumpy . . . now it looks like some more “professional” clothes, but still not a fashion plate.

    • It’s not the same double-breasted suit as the one she wore in The Other Woman for her meeting with Chaough, but it harkens back to (and is a much more conservative look than) that one.

  • rkdgal

    I think that the suit is new, and hope that with her promotion she’ll be buying more new lady-exec wear.  I’m mostly glad that we’re seeing Peggy even though she’s no longer at SCDP!

    • luciaphile

      They talked about her wardrobe at length on TWoP and people who were in the ad business said that back then female creatives did not dress like executives. They apparently went out of their way to avoid looking like the secretaries. So not so much suits. I don’t know if this would apply to creatives in managerial positions though.

  • bertkeeter

    Channeling ” LADY BIRD JOHNSON”?

    • filmcricket

      My immediate thought was Margaret Thatcher.

  • She’s worn something similar to that, when she took a stand against sexual harassment, I believe? You two said it was militaristic.

  • is beardy mccounterculture by any chance rizzo? are they working together again?

    •  I think it is. He’s got a jacket just like that.

      • Chickadeep

        OMG it *is* him! That’s totally Stan’s jacket, the one he trots out for pitches. And unless he’s Jon Hamm, who can apparently grow a full beard over a long weekend, the length of that face fuzz has to put this episode in very late ’67 or more likely sometime in ’68.

      •  I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Paul Kinsey’s beard was strictly an “I’m progressive and artistic” statement, but by the late 60’s beards were edging back into the mainstream. By the 1970’s the unthinkable happened- IBM programmers wore them.

      • MK03

        Oh dear. If it is, that is a DREADFUL look for Jay Ferguson. Or anyone, really.

        •  http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-116448616/stock-photo-los-angeles-oct-jay-r-ferguson-arrives-at-the-paley-center-for-media-annual-los-angeles.html

          I’m all in favor of beards, but coupled with his wolfman hairline this is not his best look. Huggable though.

    • kcarb1025

      OMG he looks like Andrew Sullivan!! Weird!

  • bxbourgie

    Ive not seen the suit before.  Hints of Peggy’s Power Color, definitely a new one.  The hair is atrosh, it ages her.  So does that suit,but that’s always been Peggy’s thing, she seems to always dress older than her years.  

  • formerlyAnon

    Oooohh! We have arrived at the 60s style hair & suit that [almost] everyone was sooo happy to leave behind. Or, if like me you were just about to arrive at “grown up” styles at this time, you heaved a huge sigh of relief as the “younger” fashions became acceptable at work and church (extra special relief over the hair). I’m facing some teeth-gritting this season with the clothing of the less fashion-forward and more middle/working class characters.

  • imspinningaround

    Camel Lights, not Virginia Slims?  You’ve come a long way, Peggy!

  • I’m sorry I was far too busy ogling Beardy McCounterculture. (sigh)

  • Judy_J

    Love the navy & red suit.  I don’t remember seeing it before.  Isn’t it amazing how aging the hairstyles were back then?  I remember when I was 14 and my mom took me to her hairdresser, Mr. Robert, to have my hair done before a school dance.  I came out looking like a 14 year old version of my 35 year old mom.

    • i had a similar experience when i was in 5th grade (1958).  threw me into an ugly phase for years (shudder…)

  • HobbitGirl

    Dreadful hair, dreadful shoes, dreadful coat. But I actually kinda like the suit.

  • MightyMarshal

    I’m 99% sure that’s a new suit. When I saw it under to coat I thought it was a different double breasted suit she’d worn, but without the coat it’s a different suit. Red accents the collar plus the kicky pleated skirt are what set it apart.

  • This is my mom from head to toe, though Mom went in for a red lip till the day she died. Stewardess chic. I remember it well. I’m going to quibble here and suggest Peggy is a bit late to this party. By the late 60s I’d expect to see her infected with a bit of Mod–ie, the shorter skirt, pastels and a frosted lip. She is in NYC after all.

    • MilaXX

       Peggy is a woman trying to make it in  predominately male field. While someone like Megan might go for the MOD short skirts/pastels & frosted lip, I can see Peggy ever dressing that care free.

  • ojosazules

    The suit looks just like every stewardess I ever saw in the sixties. Very Pan Am.

  • msdamselfly

    I grew up in the 60’s and that hairstyle was popular in 1965.  By 1968 it would have seemed kind of square.

    •  And yet, all you have to do is google “1968 yearbook pictures” to see that plenty of young women were still sporting the hair helmets. If you look at television shows from the period, you’ll see that plenty of women in Peggy’s age group were also sporting that hair.

      • Elizabetta1022

        My mom wore a pixie in the late 60s-early 70s, but had 2 different wigs that looked like Peggy’s hair helmet. (One brunette and one red.) She trotted them out for special occasions and said they made her feel glamorous. She was drop-dead gorgeous, too.

    • not_Bridget

      When was Peggy not “kind of square”?  She might smoke a little pot & shack up with her boyfriend, but she has always been more concerned about work than being a fashion plate. She’ll be spending more money on her clothes, but will never be a Megan…..

      • Chickadeep

        Exactly. She may have come a long way Baby, career-wise, but she is, after all, also the girl who allowed her co-worker to give her a kitchen haircut and has gone out on dates wearing dresses plucked from the Mamie Eisenhower collection. Her deeply unfashionable working class Brooklyn upbringing is still calling the fashion shots most of the time…and let’s face it, work has ALWAYS been more important to Peggy than looking fashionable. She’s been letting Joan’s fashion hints fly over her head forever.

        •  Peggy may end up buying some expensive work clothes, but they’ll always be conservative and she won’t discard them the moment they go out of style.

    • Dot

      I remember obsessively browsing through my mother’s very early 70s (1970-72) highschool yearbooks when I was younger and I vividly recall seeing helmet hairstyles like Peggy’s — even in the early 70s.

    • kcarb1025

      I agree. The flip and ironed hair were big by 67-68.. I’m sure that there were still some girls hanging on to the helmet style, but frankly and not to be mean, but there were unpopular/frumpy/unstylish girls back then too. And I bet the girls in the yearbooks with the helmet fell on that (low) end of the spectrum of hip. I mean, Margaret Farquar was in a yearbook then too, but… you know.

    • when i graduated from high school in so.cal. in 1966, the helmet hair was very in with the “popular” girls who were on the drill team.  that was the cool thing to do, the cheerleaders were kind of goody-two-shoes but the drill team girls were bad-ass.  they did huge synchronized marching routines on the football field during half time, and they all had matching “bubble” haircuts.  the helmets were bigger and more exaggerated than peggy’s, and they had “spit curls” that stuck to their cheeks.  the other group of popular girls were the surfers, who wore their hair long, peroxided and ironed.  they were a little more laid back and the beginnings of counter-culture.  the real counter culture kids were in the folk music club.  we wore our hair long and played bob dylan songs on our guitars.  by 1968 i was so stoned i was lucky if i got around to combing my hair.   

      • formerlyAnon

         ^^THIS^^  The mix of styles – from helmet hair to long hippie locks co-existed at least through ’67 or ’68 in high schools and college – basically the older the cohort of women the longer the structured hairstyles stayed au courant. The softer, straighter hair was a young look in the early-mid ’60s. If you had a mom or older sisters to enable you, a few girls moved toward the helmet hair in 8th grade, but for most it was a few years later. And some girls who were in either the fashion or the counterculture vanguard never did do the bouffant thing.

  • I’m definitely going to start calling a number of hipsters I know “Beardy McCounterculture.”

  • charlotte

    The sight of Peggy always brightens my day. Even if she looks middle-aged and frumpy.

    • peggy dresses the way my mom would have liked me to dress in the late sixties.  once i moved to berkeley, that cause was lost forever.

  • Alison Jimenez

    Ugh … I wish Lane was around to punch Ted Chaough in the face. 

  • Peggy … she looks like a stewardess here. Hard at work earning that $18K a year she’s now making. I’m betting Don regrets losing her now.

    Hey TLo, I noticed you changed your site organization a bit? Did you get rid of those great Mad Men fashion posts you used to have filed under “Television”? That’s how I originally found you guys. They were wonderful! Hope they aren’t lost to the BKs forever. Great photos and very entertaining reading. 

    • try looking under tag map, then click on mad men.  i know, i liked the old archives better too, but TLo noted that the archives were just getting too big and hard to manage.  and we don’t want our fearless leaders stressing out, they work so hard for us and we appreciate it!

      • Thanks for the tip!

        For those who haven’t read them … check out those old posts deconstructing the fashions on the show. They really are wonderful and informative. It’s definitely changed the way I watch the show. Now I look at the clothes not just as great costumes but in relation to the setting, the emotions the characters are portraying, and how the colors and styles play off each other.

  • That suit would have been very stylish business wear back then. A little frumpy now, but still cute. 

  • l_c_ann

    I had that coat. 

  • The suit/ dress is new but it’s very similar to her “standing up for herself dress” – the militaristic one she wore when she fired Joey for harassing Joan. This is the grown-up version.

  • bookish
  • tallgirl1204

    There’s a piece to add in here, in regards to why Peggy would have a somewhat conservative look, even at that time and in that profession.  Peggy is in a position of authority– no matter her age, it would behoove her to dress and style her hair accordingly.  So what would that be?  A friend of mine who entered the work force in the early 70’s was subject to egregious sexual harrassment from all directions.  She said that she carefully studied herself whenever she receieved a compliment at work about her looks, and whatever it was she had done differently that day, she never did it again.  When I worked with her, in the 80s, she was always perfectly groomed, with a severe Anna Wintour-type haircut, and wearing simple knee-length sheaths in fashionable colors, that entirely hid her figure.  She was gorgeous, but you would never know it at work.  I think dressing “older” and keeping a conservative haircut is Peggy’s uniform/armor– a way of telling her coworkers to stand back and pay attention to her ideas.  Being Peggy, I expect she will have mixed results.  I can’t wait for the season! 

    •  That was my read too. It’s a look that says, I’m not your friend, I’m not your wife, I’m not your secretary. I’m your colleague or boss.

    • NDC_IPCentral

      You’re absolutely right.  A woman wanting to advance in the late-60s business world (and into the 70s, I know, ‘because mid-70s is when I made my professional debut) didn’t have “Dress for Success” books, articles and columns to guide her.  If she were savvy (and I wasn’t always…) she would opt for the conservative and unshowy.  That would take the focus off her female-ness so that her competence and skills could shine without gender distraction.

  • NYUEmily

    The dress/suit is new but it’s very similar to her “standing up for herself” dress – the one she wore when she fired Joey for harassing Joan. This is the grown up version.

    • bookish

       I thought the same thing! I went digging through the TLO archives and found the photos of that dress to double check, and they are fairly similar. She also wears it when doing a big client presentation that same season.

  • NYUEmily

    The dress/ suit is new but it’s very similar to her militaristic “standing up for herself” dress – the one she wore when she fired Joey for harassing Joan. This is the grown up version.

  • MilaXX

    I’m just excited about the show returning, but I’ll guess that if you don’t recognize the suit, it’s part of her new job wardrobe.

  • Dot

    These photos completely made my day!

  • Love the juxtaposition of a pack of 60’s cigarettes and a (presumably) cell phone in the second picture.  That suit does not look like something she wore before. 

    • EveEve

      Same observation here.  In 2012, holding a cell phone in your hand as you head outside is ubiquitous.  And I was trying to think what, if anything, would be analagous in 1968, and the pack if cigs, or the cig case, was the only thing that came to mind.  I am so happy to see Mad Men posts again!!!

  • annrr

    I am thinking those cigs need to be in a cigarette wallet, my mom and all my aunts always had their Pall Malls or Chesterfields in a cigarette wallet. 
    And my working mom wore wigs into the 70’s when she didn’t have time to set her hair.

    • yes, a stylish woman would never walk around holding her cigarettes like that.  of course, this could be a break and those are her for-real cigs (let’s hope not).  i remember my mom buying a silver leather cig case to carry on a carribean cruise in 1967.  it even had a pocket for your lighter. she smoked tarringtons (?) as i recall. i smoked kools.

      •  My grandmother always kept her Winstons (unfiltered) in a gold stamped Italian leather case, and she had a gold lame one for the evening.

  • sherrietee

    My mother had that exact hairstyle.  I’ve seen so many pictures of her with me as a baby wearing clothes just like that.  We’re finally getting to my years.  🙂

  • Violina23

    At first glance I thought it was a suit we saw before, but I’m no expert. Maybe I’m just recognizing the colors being so similar.  Not lovin’ the look, but Peggy was never supposed to be the most dazzling character in terms of her wardrobe.

    Okay this show needs to come back, like, yesterday….

    Does the new season have a date?

  • MissKimP

    Is Beardy McCounterCulture (ha!) actually Stan Rizzo?  Maybe it’s just the loud mustard jacket that reminds me of Stan…

  • Kate4queen

    Oh my gosh, I remember my mum’s hair looking just like this. 🙂

  • dickylarue

    Shit. She looks like my Mom. 

  • OMG, my father had those Beetle boots!

  • MsALVA

    I almost don’t care so much about what she’s wearing because I’m just so excited that they’re filming which means we’re a bit closer to the next season!! I couldn’t wait for Downton Abbey S3 so I’ve already seen it online which means it’ll be even longer before I can get new episodes of TV I love. 

  • snarkykitten

    there are sooo many photos of my grandmother with her hair styled like that. /useless contribution is useless

  • Ozski

    I don’t think she’s ever worn this dress before, but it’s consistent with the Military style she seems to favor. If this season, is in fact. 1968, the year I was born, I am very much looking forward to Harry and Roger donning hideous sideburns and Joan resembling late 60’s Liz Taylor and Sophia Loren, with teased hair and Cleopatra eyes!

    •  As Tom and Lorenzo posted a while back, we’ll probably see Harry in some very embarrassing outfits. If Roger makes any big changes it will be sat his wife’s urging. (I don’t think that hair dye is completely out of the question)

      • Czarina5 Czarina5

        Jane and Roger are getting a divorce, so Roger might be heading for love beads and a Nehru jacket or a polyester leisure suit sooner than we think.

        • and when will he start tripping again?  i missed the LSD episode due to cable failure, and they don’t seem to be replaying it, even when they replay the other epi.s in the season.  what’s up with that, did they get some flack from the anti-drug lobby?

    • luciaphile

       Have you seen the shots of Pete? They’ve shaved his hairline even further back and he has sideburns now.

  • Can’t wait for Peggy to start wearing slacks, when will she? I’ve never seen her in like pants, except for pajamas and maybe as beachwear. 

    • Laylalola

      Photos of my mother show her with a flip and always skirts or dresses in the 1968 time frame — it was almost the 70s or the early 70s when it seems her winter work uniform became a plaid slack with a turtleneck or cowl neck. 

  • LesYeuxHiboux

    She looks like my husband’s grandmother!

    I love how the suit jacket is so “feminine take on Marine Corps dress blues”. Janie knew what she was doing when she picked parochial school and military influences for this one. I find it interesting that Peggy’s bubble hair and gray overcoat, and now less-than-wide-eyed expression make her look more like Don all the time. Peggy’s on top and she’s worn her armor for the occasion.

    Cannot wait for this show to come back. 

  • that suit is all “Peggy is an Executive” – new.

  • afabulous50

    #3 on my irrational hate list…

  • My aunt still does the wash and set (she’s in her 70s) and wears a scarf when she goes to bed so the pouf doesn’t get smashed. I’ve been convinced for years that her hair is actually about 90% hairspray. 

  • I love how she has an iPhone in her hand in the second picture.

  • The navy blue with red piping trim here is very reminiscent of the job interview suit she wore in “The Other Woman” – maybe she’s leaving behind the mustard/brown/olive combos and going for more jewel-tones, since she doesn’t have to compete with Joan at her new office?

  • nannypoo

    Reading the comments for this post is like a meeting of my knitting group or lunch with a bunch of old high school friends. Great fun.

    I did not know you could google yearbook pictures. I’m going to google my year and hope I don’t find myself.

  • Patricia Gillett

    I have photos of my mom looking almost exactly like this in 68. With a shorter skirt. But same hair and all. 

  • librarygrrl64

    I don’t recall that suit, no. And, wow, is that wig ever matronly!

  • SheenaRamone

    Peggy looks like she could kick someone’s ass in that outfit. Love it. And yikes, poor Stan. He really is the Paul Kinsey 2.0. I hope these pictures mean he (and Ken!) joined Peggy at CGC! 


    I totally read “Miss Piggy” the first time around and was like “Guys! Come on…”

  • breathlss79

    I wonder if Rizzo is still at SCJP (SCJC?) and his wearing mustard represents Peggy’s old life.

  • Gentlemen,  My sisters and I all had (have) naturally curly hair (save for the one who has luscious thick shiny hair that had just enough of a wave so she could wear a headband with bangs and not look like Rosanne Rosanna Danna).  I do recall the days of BIG hair curlers and sometimes even using an iron to flatten the hair. I loved how my sisters hair looked when they set it, flowing in big waves with the flippy curl on the bottom.  I recall in the early 70’s my sisters were still using the big curlers, sometimes those electric curlers, and later those newfangled curling irons (Ironically all used to make the hair straighter, not curly!) I wanted my hair like theirs, but they insisted that I’d look better with curls, they chopped off my thick braids when I was 13,  and I was stuck with a big ‘fro (that I hated) until college!
    To answer your question, Peggy has not worn this dress before, but she did have that navy dress with the red kick pleats. (in the episode where she had lipstick on her teeth) Janie Bryant usually uses one old outfit for Peggy in her first episode of the new  season — maybe she just used the coat this time.  I think the hair is mostly hers, colored, with a bump and tease on the back.
     Now I can’t wait until S6!

  • imakeart

    Love that 2nd shot where she has her phone in her hand.

  • Beardy McCounterCulture — chuckle 

  • oasis double

    She reminds me of my grandaunt who was a headmistress in a boarding school (under a British colonial rule) back in the late 60s….

  • She’s an executive at a New York City ad firm and this is what they wore and this is how they did their hair – it’s spot on as usual but man oh man is it hiddy. I am sure the suit is new also – she will be dressing completely different this season I would assume. Loved that you caught the Beatles boots. My Dad had ones just like those.

  • ShayShay

    I’m so very ready for Season 5 of Mad Men and for more Mad Style with Tom & Lorenzo!

  • sweetlilvoice

    Can I just say how much I miss MM and the great discussions on this blog? Thanks for all the posts and reminisces. 

  • It’s like a frumpier version of the cute red and blue coat dress Anne Marie wears in the opening credits of “That Girl!”

  • H2olovngrl

    She is giving Stan the Beardman some serious bitch face in that last picture.

  • Kaye Evans

    OMG, my mother looked exactly like that in 1968!! The hair, the purse, the shoes!

  • bennie05

    I think it’s her real hair (maybe with some extra added in?) – her hair is awfully short at the SAG awards this year!