T LOunge

Posted on October 13, 2011

Darlings, let’s all spend one night in Bangkok!

Bed Supperclub in Bangkok, Thailand

 

Because we hear the bars are temples but the pearls ain’t free.


The fabulous Zoe Saldana, who taunts T Lo regularly, will be sitting in the guest judge chair. Unlike most actress judges, we’re looking forward to her commentary because the gal is pretty damn stylish. Just look at her. Nina and Heidi better bring their A game for the fashion face-off.


And speaking of fashion face-offs, everyone in this picture is wearing a ridiculous outfit except Viktor and Kimberly.

Now, in past seasons, the final challenge before the runway finale usually yields nothing but crap because the designers are so exhausted by this point. But since we’ve seen such a stunningly high amount of crap already this season, we’re almost afraid to see what they all pull out of their asses.

Question of the Week: What is the ONE thing the show needs to do to get back in your good graces for Season 10?

ONE thing, kittens. Otherwise you’ll all be posting bandwidth-busting manifestos.

[Photo Credit: mylifetime.com, bedsupperclub.com - Video Credit: mylifetime.com]

    • Anonymous

      As soon as you said Bangkok, I started singing that song in my head.

      • Anonymous

        Ditto. Which, given that I’m too young to get a rather large portion of TLo’s references, makes me happy.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK26PHQATX3VMJXUJDYLOC24GE K

        Sad thing is, I own 3 versions of the musical…original London, original Broadway, and the concert version done a couple of years ago.

        • Anonymous

          Ditto. AND I performed in and costumed it. Sadder still. ;-)

      • lilibetp

        Me, too!

    • Kit Taylor

      talent

      • Erica Niemiec

        And there it is!

        Cast for talent, and you’re bound to get at least a few who are also interesting/dramatic. Cast for drama, and there’s no guarantees on talent.

      • Anonymous

        And if I might elaborate just a tad:  More time to create, to allow the real talent to show. So tired of glue guns and cutting the models out of the garments because there was no time for a zipper or a button. More real resources, rather than irrelevant product placements, to allow the talent to be realized.  More individual challenges to give the talent its own recognition. More focus on the behind the scenes creative process rather than on manufactured interpersonal dramas.  More help from Tim to bring out the best of the designers’ talents.  And how about blind judging so the judges reward the talent in front of them, and not the personality of the designer?  But most of all – go back to finding talented people who are already started in the business and could really make the most of the additional boost that $100k would give them.  

        • Anonymous

          Ooohhhhh, blind judging.  Now there’s a great idea.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000166553071 Jennifer Callahan

          Yes to the blind judging!  At least to deterine the top and bottom groups.

          How many times this season have I said “If they hadn´t known it was X’s work, they would have slaughtered it!” Or “If X had made that instead of Y, they would have praised the shit out of it.”

        • Anonymous

          Blind judging definitely gets my vote.

        • http://twitter.com/VicksieDo Vickie Lord

          With blind judging we’d see how arbitrary the judging really is…they really don’t have solid reasons for their likes and dislikes, which change constantly.  

        • http://twitter.com/cheshireb cheshire bitten

          Everything EveEve said!

        • Anonymous

          Yep, blind judging gets my vote, too. Brilliant idea!

    • Anonymous

      Hmmmm…..one thing….how to choose? How about less freaking obvious producer manipulation of their anointed ones, or better yet, producers not allowed any say at all.

      • Anonymous

        I am totally with you on that!
         Back off producers!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Margaret-Carlson-Nikoleit/100002490979930 Margaret Carlson Nikoleit

      Only one thing? Ok, here goes. Devote more screen time to workroom scenes showing creative process — the whole process of sketching, draping and/or pattern making, constructing, listening to Tim, refining. Which kinda requires casting people who can do all of these things.

      • Anonymous

        and enough of cafeteria scenes for crissakes!

    • Alina Badus

      To get back into my good graces, they should make sure Viktor wins. He’s the only reasonable win at this point, imo.

      • Anonymous

        quadruple like! 

      • Anonymous

        Too late.  The winner was chosen last month, remember?

        • Anonymous

          the winner was chosen the second she opened her pretty little mouth & said she just learned to sew 5 minutes ago

          • Anonymous

            snark award of the evening (and i love it)! :)

          • Anonymous

            Actually, that almost got her eliminated in the first batch of designers in the first episode….

    • http://twitter.com/PhDKnitter marlie

      Fewer ‘twist-based’ challenges, and more challenges that force the designers to really THINK (outside the box) about what they’re creating/designing.

      (Heck, at this point, I’d be happy with “make a pretty dress.”)

    • Anonymous

      Kill all the producers and start over with a new batch. I personally offer to strike the first fatal blow.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve got AAA bail coupons I’d be happy to use for you.

    • http://twitter.com/thedogsmother thedogsmother

      Give the designers more time = higher quality of work.

    • Anonymous

      more tim.

      • http://profiles.google.com/singingraisin ali meowmeow

        I think this would do it for me. I think I would deal with tons of bullshit challenges and drama vortex contestants and producer manipulation so the pretty girl wins IF I could just have Tim confessionals every few minutes. Even if all he is doing is shaking his head and saying “I can’t.”
        If I could have two things? More Tim + lots of booze for Tim.

      • Anonymous

        I’m going to go with more Tim too.  Because that means a lot of other things have happened.  As we saw last year (before he got shut down), Tim is sick to death of the producers, too.  So more Tim means there were new producers who actually understood the appeal of this show.  

      • Anonymous

        Tim injected with truth serum before every episode.

        Or at least Tim taking over as head of production with veto power on how the show is run.

        • Anonymous

          HA!  I was just thinking that my second wish would be for Tim AND the judges to have the truth wish from ‘Liar, Liar’ put on them every week.  THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! :)

      • Anonymous

        I’m with you, More Tim, asap. Is it me, or has he been sort of pushed aside this season? It’s not that we don’t get to see him ever, but I seem to remember he had more of a presence before. Now he seems like an afterthought. And at this point I’d rather they dump everyone else on the show and just let Tim Gunn be the star!

      • Now I am The Bee

        I agree–more Tim.  Off the topic:  I just read, in the business section, that Liz Claibourne sold their name and all thier brands  to….JC Penny today.  I wonder what that means for our Mr. Tim….

    • Anonymous

      How about more emphasis on talent and less on [horrible] personality?

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: Question of the Week: What is the ONE thing the show needs to do to get back in your good graces for Season 10?”

      They need to cast for TALENT, not drama (especially the fake drama that rewards people for simply being assholes).

      –GothamTomato

    • Anonymous

      Wow–is it Thursday already? I will be watching online tomorrow morning. Can’t wait to see all the hideous outfits. 

      I think the one thing that this show needs is more talent. I was seriously underwhelmed with the designers this season and felt that, for the most part, I was looking at mall clothes. There must be better designers out there. I still can’t tell any of these people’s designs apart and that’s a really, really bad thing at this point in the season. 

    • Anonymous

      Get it off lifetime.

      • Anonymous

        That was my first thought!

    • http://twitter.com/JoAnnRoss JoAnn Ross

      Since it’s probably unPC to take shears and murder controlling,creativity-stealing producers, I vote for them returning to Bravo. 

      • Anonymous

        If you need a witness, I’ll swear  it was a mercy killing.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Shoot, I’ll give her an alibi.

    • Anonymous

      Get it off Lifetime. 

    • Anonymous

      Just one?  Damn.  I guess it would be: restore the equilibrium between drama and actual skill.  A whole season with no “wow” fashion moments is just not acceptable.

      How about we all grab a drink, gather around the big-screen, turn off the sound and let TLo guide us in a MST3K style viewing of the episode?

      • Anonymous

        I would so join that viewing!

    • Anonymous

      Tone down the “twists” and producer maniuplation. Hire a scriptwriter for the orange one.

    • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

      I think they should do some recruiting for next season.  My guess is that they didn’t have nearly the talent they need show up for casting for economic reasons, as I have previously pondered, and some of the things they’ve done this year have been to try to compensate for that.  When the clothes suck, you need drama to pull people in — hence the editing and the insane twists and the 9 billion team challenges and the manipulations of wins for maximum drama. 

      If they can’t get the people they need to show up at casting, they need to actively recruit some.  You can’t tell me that none of the guest judge designers — who the show already has relationship with — have people on their team that are really good and could use the break.

      • http://modernretrowoman.com DrJulieAnn

        The mother of a young woman at the grocery store I frequent is a designer here in Los Angeles.  The young woman said that her mom’s business/design partner auditioned for the show but it was clear from the types of questions they were asking that they were looking for drama and “story” over design substance.  The partner didn’t make it onto the show.

        So…based on the experience of one person, they probably had lots of people with talent audition but they weren’t dramatic enough.

    • Anonymous

      By the way, I’d like some sort of pink and sparkly drink to match the lounge. Perhaps a gallon or so.

      • Anonymous

        I think you need a kir royale to start. 

        • Anonymous

          yum!

    • http://twitter.com/dodgefan Lisa Weaver

      Less producer manipulation/gyration/obfuscation would go a long way to improving the show.

    • http://profiles.google.com/embersonfire ember beasley

      less product placement. ffs.

    • http://profiles.google.com/embersonfire ember beasley

      Also, go back to bravo. lol

    • http://summerborn.livejournal.com/ Summer Born

      More Tim, and more time!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      Show more Tim, stop manipulating,less product placement, more consistency from the judges, get better designers. Just go back and do season 1 again.

      • Anonymous

        What a great idea!  Wouldn’t it be fun to have the same challenges as Season 1, in the same order?  And wouldn’t it be fun to see how long it would take the designers to realize what was going on?

        • Anonymous

          I like this idea a lot. Or maybe Lifetime should do a viewer poll for top 12 (it is 12, right?) favorite challenges and make a season based on the top challenges of all time. I say do another ‘design for another designer’ challenge & another ‘actually weird materials challenge, like the car part one’

        • Joyce VG

          That’s a great idea!  Go back to the beginning where PR wasn’t broken!

        • Anonymous

          Or to mess with them a little bit more, first challenge repeated from season one, the second challenge the same as the second of season two, etc. It would all seem familiar, but I don’t think any of the designers would clue into exactly what was happening.

          • Anonymous

            ooooh, that’s a really good idea!

    • Anonymous

      That bar is awfully pink, don’t you think?  So I guess I’d better have a Pink Lady!

      ONE thing?  More design, less drama. 

      By the way, does anyone else think that Tim should think about looking for a new day job?  http://online.wsj.com/article/APfcbdc37041394f7d804bf104ba47e3f6.html  When CEOs start talking about “resizing the corporate infrastructure”, it’s time to polish up the resumé. 

      • Lori

        He’s going to be on a live daily talk show on ABC starting in January.  Another one of those group talk shows.  Not the career move I would have him make but hey, it’s his life.

      • Anonymous

        Well, I obviously don’t know where his health insurance and biggest income stream come from (though probably Liz C.), but he seems to have so many irons in the fire that he might not be sorry to have his workload reduced, especially if he qualifies for a nice severance package.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          And as a single man with no dependents, the insurance may or may not be important to him.  My brother and sister-in-law have catastrophic coverage only because they run their own business, and their kids are both covered under their exes’ policies.

    • http://twitter.com/asciident Melissa Della

      New network. Failing that, new production company. What I’m trying to say is: whoever’s making the shit decisions needs to be canned.

    • Anonymous

      Nothing. I gave up. I’m now reading because you all are hilarious, not because I give anything resembling a damn. Haven’t watched an episode since Josh started letting his f*cked-up flag fly. So, nothing.

    • Anonymous

      I won’t be home, and don’t really care. Tomorrow I’ll read the boys and then decide if I will watch.

      *bandwidth-busting manifestos*      You know us so well.

    • Anonymous

      One thing? Open, cumulative scoring for the entire season to determine the bottom three each episode. Then the producers, ahem, judges get to pick which slacker to send home.

    • Anonymous

      Recruit contestants who are genuine “designers” not ersatz wannabes who are looking for their Warholian 15 minutes.  Extra points for a couple with some maturity.  Yes, yes, we need some drama and some wacky, but couldn’t there be a grown-up or two?  And I’m on board with the fellow and sister bitter kittens calling for talent, less producer manipulation, more time devoted to the creative process — let’s see some sewing, cutting, figuring it out, fitting, eh?  And a little less posturing from Frau Seal and the Duchess.  It’s not about them.  Or it oughtn’t to be.

      Just wrote a friend that I’d be watching tonight in order to yell at the TV.  Sheesh, that is not entertainment, that’s depressing.

      All the best, nonetheless,

      NDC

      • Anonymous

        Whoops, T Lo, sorry on my exceeding the “ONE” rule, but I got all exercised about what bugs me about what used to be a favorite show as opposed to something now that is practically an embarrassment.

    • Anonymous

      Yep. Start with more real talent. I mean, sure have some interesting/amusing flakes in the early weeks, but beyond that, I would rather this not be the A-List with scissors.

    • Anonymous

      I’m new to watching Project Runway, so I never watched the show when it was on Bravo… but now reading all these comments, I’m curious how it changed…can anyone enlighten me? I agree that it would be a more compelling show if the designers demonstrated more talent…

      • http://twitter.com/Wild_Horses__ Beth

        You really should watch the first four seasons and avoid any spoilers. They were so much fun. Better garments and better drama.  And you can’t help but love Tim Gunn and several of the designers. It was more of a contest and less reality show bickering. But whatever bickering there was, was pretty interesting or funny.  And speaking of funny – sometimes the designers actually had fun and were hilarious together.

        All this manufactured drama – it actually made the times when they got stressed and lashed out a whole lot more dramatic & suspenseful when you got to know them & like or dislike them through their more composed moments. I’m sure it was manipulated then, but it was more compelling, more interesting, more educational (at least for a fashion noob like me), and TONS more suspenseful.

        ETA: after you’ve watched an episode on DVD, you MUST look up TLo’s posts in the archives. A valuable and hysterical companion piece to every episode.

        • Rebecca Zmarzly

          “more of a contest and less reality show”

          You have hit the nail on the head. That is EXACTLY what the show needs to do to get it back on track for me. Be a fashion show/contest and not another installment of reality-show dreck.

        • Anonymous

          I concur. I watched the Santino season again recently and forgot how much fun they had in the workroom. His impression of Tim Gunn still makes me giggle…and who could forget “Where’s Andre?” and Andre’s meltdown on the runway. All of that drama/fun was organic – it just happened because you have a bunch of creative people in a small space on no sleep. And some pretty good looks were produced that season…and I won’t even go into the other Bravo seasons – worth a looksee serenab44!

        • Anonymous

          Re: reading the archives.  I also highly recommend doing that but unfortunately its a lot harder to do than it used to be.  I REALLY miss being able to see all the posts for each episode.  When I re-discovered PR and got caught up on the seasons I missed (2-6, otherwise known as the years w/o a TV before Internet streaming) it was such a treat to read the posts for each episode once I’d finished watching. 

        • Anonymous

          Also check out the “quality” of models used in the first four seasons. They were fabulous and really added something to the looks and scenes on the runway. Please watch the first four seasons! It’s so much better than what you’re seeing now.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Heather-Waddell/10401341 Heather Waddell

            And the designers actually seemed to recognize that a good/bad model could make or break you. Remember the wedding dress challenge Season 1 when Jay picked Morgan (and called her Morganza!) and then freaked out when he found out that she wasn’t a *model* she was a *client*?? Priceless.

      • Anonymous

        not much really. The talent pool has dried up a little. The last few seasons had less talent. I’d say the few seasons before this had VERY little personality and everyone bitched and moaned about that, so I think Lifetime responded with kicking up the drama now everyone on here is crying about that. Other than tha, its really pretty much the same show it has always been.

    • Anonymous

      Choose designers based on talent rather than potential for drama.

    • Anonymous

      Fewer restrictions on challenges (broader concepts, more time, etc.). How is anyone supposed to turn out anything amazing in eight hours that has to be based on a loaf of bread and surprise athour six you need a second cheese-based look? Creativity can’t live in a crucible.

      • http://twitter.com/Wild_Horses__ Beth

        This. What LesYeuxHiboux said.

    • Lori

      Get rid of B/M and you get rid of most of the famewhores with little talent.

    • Anonymous

      The one thing they could do?

      Fire everyone involved, including Heidi and BM, and start over from scratch. Nothing but a complete overhaul will fix this wreck.

      And since that’s not gonna happen, my good graces will remain PR-free. 

      Just looking at that lineup of douchebags (Viktor and Kimberly exempted) and realizing it’s almost the finale makes me vaguely ill. Or would have, a few weeks ago, before I gave up on giving a shit.

    • Anonymous

      One thing? Cast talented, interesting people. That’s all, give a good cast people care about. Success in this genre is 90% casting, 5% editing, 3% challenge construction and 2% judging. Cast people who are talented and interesting, you get good tv, see early PR US (my preference is seasons 1-4, plus season 7, which was actually pretty good from what I remember) the first two seasons of PR AUS and the first season of PR Canada – all really good TV shows. Cast people who are there solely for their “personality” and drama potential, you get Season 9, which is pretty balls.

    • Anonymous

      *Sigh*

      The show really has turned into Big Brother  or Survivor  with sewing machines and a Piperlime accessory wall. We can only hope that in this episode the other contestants bludgeon Josh to death with a platform shoe and engage in cannibalism.

    • Anonymous

      Show more of the process of creating the clothes that walk the runway: Work room scenes,  some with Tim advising & commenting & show what they do with that advice. They could just as easily create little mini story arcs about DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION as about sleep-deprived emotional fragility. Maybe even show them talking about the WORK in their confessionals.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with your whole post. I think shows like this just have a certain shelf life. PR might just be at the end of its time.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/dLUE.9h6zdoHMLprP6AQrSQpKt0CZys-#e58b4 tom

      People with talent that also demonstrate the sewing skills to bring their design concept to a professional looking reality.

    • Anonymous

      Go back to the Magical Elves as producers. 

    • Anonymous

      I’d like the challenge to make it clear what the judges expect and have the judges stick to it. Challenges where the judges are criticizing contestants for making a stilt-walker look “too costumey” just make me embarrassed for them. 

    • Anonymous

      Put the emphasis back on the CLOTHES!

      I was trying hard to pick just one thing.  Better challenges, less producer manipulation, more workroom and less drama, etc. etc. etc.  I realized that they were all part and parcel of the same thing. All of these problems stem from the fact that that there is insufficient emphasis on the clothing itself.

      The bad challenges and ridiculous timeframes interfere with the designers’ ability to come up with something good (or at least interesting).  The producer manipulation means that the judging isn’t a real critique of the clothes, but an attempt at justifying the producer-chosen winner and aufee.  The endless time spent on real and manufactured interpersonal drama is time that can’t be used to show them making the clothes, receiving critiques, etc.  

      That’s not to say I don’t enjoy a little workroom drama here and there.  But that should be the garnish, not the meal.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erica-Moon/1463257262 Erica Moon

      Go back to Bravo

    • Anonymous

      Have a first challenge with no constraints, sufficient time and money with an elimination of 4-6 designers to weed out the sub-par designers prior to the show really kicking in.It would be much more exciting if it was more competitive right off the bat. This season there were so many weeks where any number of designers could have been eliminated and no one would have complained much. 

    • mc90

      I’d like to see some evidence, somewhere, somehow, that the judges still have integrity and don’t completely pander to producer intervention. –Emmylou

      • Anonymous

        Good luck in finding that evidence.

      • Anonymous

        I think it is interesting that the complaints are about the producers, and not the judges.  I mean the judges are still making these awful decisions (see: last year’s season finale, Bert over Laura last week).  why are we giving the judges a pass in this mess?  

    • Anonymous

      Give Tim Gunn final approval on all production decisions

    • Anonymous

      At least for a couple of challenges toward the end, give them 2 days to do one look with no stupid twists or product placement nonsense. Either that, or cast all to the caliber of Viktor, who seems to be able to turn out decent stuff in the whack amount of time they’re given. I’m tired of looking at crap.

      I know you said one, but my B choice would be fewer team challenges. I hate team challenges.

      All the rest goes without saying – less producer manipulation, fewer product placements that seem to have nothing to do with the challenge….etc.

      More bird challenges!

    • John Manson

      oh please. the designers on the show are ALWAYS TALENTED they need to judge consistently and carefully so that people don’t start making insane/garment ruining decisions against their better judgement in failed attempts to impress the judges. 

    • Anonymous

      Only cast those with strong fashion design skills. 

    • Anonymous

      The show needs to show more of the design process and more of the workroom interactions–and I DON’T mean eye rolling and talking behind each others’ backs. Why can’t they give us a better show in a half hour longer format?

      Oh, and fewer product tie-ins. Okay, that was two, but the second one was small.

      Looking at that group picture, I have to ask, Why does the self-proclaimed “glamorous” contestant (Laura) always insist on stumpifying herself? She never works good proportions at all.

      Lovely lounge. I probably won’t watch the show until tomorrow night, but I’ll check in. I don’t even care about spoilers at this point.

    • Anonymous

      Oh, and bring me something traditional. With gin in it.

      And about 200 hours of cheap labor. I’m sick of looking at chores & projects as I run out the door to the next damn thing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12432538 Nariman Celia Alkhatib

      more tim gunn!

    • Anonymous

      One thing?  Go back to Bravo.
      Can’t have that?  Have Tim Gunn present during the initial designer selection.  He was not there this time, and to my knowledge in past seasons he’s always been there helping to pick the designers.  And you see the results–lack of talent.    I think Tim Gunn’s presence ensures a high level of talent partly because he is the most purist in terms of design.  He doesn’t care whether the designer is going to bring Survivor-level drama or if they’ll make Marie Claire happy.  Also, I think he’s the only one with the clout to stand up to the producers if they try to favor drama over talent.  

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      I don’t care, I can’t think of a thing that would make me want to watch this show next year.

      However, I am wishing now that Olivier was still around and headed for the finals. Wouldn’t THAT be an interesting home visit??? I honestly can’t think of a designer that I would rather visit “at home”.

    • Anonymous

      I loved both Mondo’s designs and Michael Costello’s last year. Two. This year there isn’t even one designer whose stuff I would buy or whose work I enjoy looking at and lusting over.

      • Anonymous

        I actually enjoy most of Viktor’s work. Anya’s obviously gonna win though. The judges just love her.

    • http://masquedbunny.tumblr.com masquedbunny

      The ONE thing the show needs to do: MORE TIM. I MISS TIM. :(

    • Anonymous

      Less drama, more design.

    • Anonymous

      Zoe Saldana is incredibly beautiful. My god.

      What one thing might improve PR? Hmmm. I’m not sure going back to Bravo/Magical Elves would do the trick, even if it were possible and as much as I miss that iteration of the show. I suspect the miles on the PR franchise are starting to show, and moving back to Bravo wouldn’t fix that. I’d say, like so many others, cast for talent not drama, but I think that’s outside B/M’s skill set. All they know how to do is dramatic artifice from what I can see.

      So here’s what I’d like to see: shitcan Nina and Kors and get two new judges who have serious fashion cred and their own fresh perspectives. Seriously. I think Nina’s down-marketed so much over the years that she’s lost her touch, and I think MK has become a one-liner fetishist. And although it’s easy to take Heidi as a lightweight and see her as the problem, I don’t really. When push comes to shove, she’s been on the right side of the issues from my POV, Mondo being a good example.

    • Anonymous

      Sigh.  I guess I am here for the drinks and the company.  Looking at the lineup of the last 5 designers does not excite me.  Who would like to join me in a corner booth – er, bed- and bitch and whine about their week?

    • Anonymous

      If I’m allowed two things, more “innovation” challenges! I love seeing the designers work with untraditional materials; there’s built-in drama but also the results are a lot of fun to see on the runway.

    • http://twitter.com/MandySCG MandyJane

      To get back in my good graces the show needs to focus more on making clothes and much less on the manufactured drama.

    • Anonymous

      Consistent judging.  Either judge on that week’s outfit or judge on the contestant’s body of work. Either approve of an outfit because it is marketable or disapprove because it could be sold in a department store.  Declare your judging criteria and stick with it.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll watch no matter what.  I don’t like the obvious producer manipulation, but it’s par for the course at this point.  I do think they guarantee some of the contestant that already have lucrative business  a place in the finals , otherwise I don’t think they would agree to be on the show.
      I’m drinking whisky sours tonight.

    • http://profiles.google.com/eszubert Elizabeth Szubert

      To get back in my good graces, Anya needs to be aufed.  

    • Anonymous

      Two-parter but really one (?) – take it off Lifetime and take it away from Bunim Murray.

      • Anonymous

        I’ll take one of those Cosmos, Laura.  And I’ll take your suggestions too.

    • MilaXX

      Stop being so obvious. Yes we know it’s a game show, yes we know some contestants are early auf fodder, but may be picked for personality, but at the end of the day the aufs need to make sense. The challenges need to have clear instructions and we want to see a little bit of fashion. Stop casting based on personality first, or who’s the prettiest, and stop thinking we, the viewers who have been watching for the past 9 years are too stupid to know the difference. Give us back the illusion that this is a fashion show instead of a game of hand pick the favorite.

      Stop being so obvious and thinking we are too dumb to it.

    • Anonymous

      One thing: go back to Bravo. No, end the producer manipulation. No…..TLo there are too many to choose from!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      I used to get giddy at the thought of the show coming on — such joy. Then last season brought the first real downers with its bullying, and then this season? There was an episode early on (I can’t recall the details now) that actually left me depressed and feeling physically ill when I turned the set off — that’s all I remember about that episode, the overwhemling DREAD it left with me. That’s NOT entertainment. And how does that even happen to such a show unless something fundamental about the show’s production has been turned on its head.

      • Eclectic Mayhem

        I’m with you Laylalola – I used to get butterflies in my stomach on a PR Thursday.  Not anymore.  I’m not even sure why I’m watching this season anymore – it’s almost a form of sado-masochism at this point!

        The extreme likelihood that Anya will win the whole thing makes me feel sick.

      • Suzanne Heist

        Perhaps it was the Nike challenge? That one was borderline disturbing on so many levels.

    • Anonymous

      Chess reference!  New reason to love TLo!

    • Anonymous

      one thing – not judge so ARBITRARILY.

    • http://www.facebook.com/eujoyuen Eugenia Joyuen

      A slap to de judges panel. Period.

    • Anonymous

      Cast based on portfolios, skillset and not personalities. Case in point Leanne. Mousy little Leanne was a quiet little designer who I was sure was canon fodder due to her blending into the background blew me away and is still one of my top designers. More quiet ones like her and Mondo.

      • Anonymous

        Those two designers are good examples that talented people are able to draw an audience even if they aren’t drama queens (vortexes). The producers should trust that the show set up is going to bring the drama no matter what the personality naturally is.

    • Joshua

      Do I really have to watch it? :P

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

      More Swatch!  Seriously, they should not decide who the winner is before we even get to see the first show of the season.

    • Anonymous

      One thing: can all the personal sob stories. I’m sick of hearing them; we’ve all got problems, I don’t need to spend 90 minutes watching a slew of people oversharing.  Show me some design and clever construction at work. It’s Project Runway, not Project Social Work.

    • Anonymous

      The show needs to ditch the BM bullshit interference and get back to being a DESIGN COMPETITION.  Sorry, but I do NOT like all the bickering drama–ever.  It’s not what I watch this show for.  I’m sick and tired of “reality” tv producers assuming we all enjoy tittering over extremely bad behavior.  I’m here to see fashion and competition–not screaming hysterics.

    • Anonymous

      One thing? Just one? Okay – um, lettimbetimmoretalentlesshistronicsnomoregrannypantydesigns.  I’ll have a lychee martini please. And thank you.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

      Another good thing for this season only…get rid of Saint Anya tonight!!

    • Anonymous

      In addition to more design, more Tim, less drama, less producer manipulation, Laura Bennett as a permanent judge.

    • http://masquedbunny.tumblr.com masquedbunny

      Oh, and given the decor of the lounge this evening, tonight’s concoction consists of: pink grapefruit juice, pink grapefruit vodka, and fresca.

      • Anonymous

        my god that sounds delicious!

    • Anonymous

      Can I go again please?  Please?  How about not ever again (after this stupid season) giving the win to a woman who can’t sew and whose designs are a piss poor imitation of a previous designer’s.

    • Anonymous

      One thing: TALENT.

      And new producers. Sorry…had to sneak in two.

    • Anonymous

      No cocktails for me. I’m on muscle relaxers for neck/back pain.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

        At least the medicine will get you through tonight’s show.

        • Anonymous

          LOL! That’s true. I doubt even Josh can piss me off while I’m on muscle relaxers.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

            I hope you feel better soon!

      • Anonymous

        no fair, must share!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=566983224 Erin Leahy

      get rid of that fucking producer.  I don’t want bull shit, I want design.

    • Anonymous

      Just got back from Vancouver BC, and I think I caught a cold.  Mine tonight is a hot scotch toddy – both virtual and actual!

      Re one thing to improve the show, replace the evil production elves with some elves who remember the original concept – great budding designers, interesting challenges and giving a boost to the lucky winner.  (Oh yeah, and world peace.)

    • Anonymous

      Free cocktails in the T Lounge

    • Anonymous

      hard to say. The whole thing reeks of bored creators and staff. New Judges? One or more? More likely better casting proces for better talent. Maybe more time on challenges. I really don’t think the show is that terribly different then it has always been, maybe it’s had it’s run and we are all a little bored at this point.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        I thought about new judges, but they would just get people who will bend to the producers’ wishes. The only way to fix this show is to leave Bunim/Murray in the dust.

    • kim i

      i quit watching this season.  i didn’t mean to; after, following the show faithfully from season one, i just couldn’t … work up … the interest to tune in anymore.  to get me back?  i honestly don’t know if they could.  in the past two years, they’ve burned up the reservoir of good will that tim had built up.  lol.  i don’t know.  maybe if they went back to the original format — if they actually CHALLENGED the designers with IDEAS that stretched our concepts of fashion (austen’s cornhusk dress always comes to mind), but then we’d still be left with the whack judging.  did the magical elves dictate the wins so obviously?  i don’t remember feeling so … cheated, before. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mary-Elizabeth-Poytinger-Baumer/1516981341 Mary Elizabeth Poytinger Baume

      no more mid challenge twists…
      get rid of the piperlime.com wall…I miss the bluefly wall
      make tim actually help people…
      and heidi can stop wearing her silly jewelery line!

    • Anonymous

      I’m looking at Laura’s outfit and I have an idea about it. Maybe she thinks that her hips/butt/thighs are big so she is wearing a flared shirt and flared pants to help “balance” her out. But her proportions are fine, she’s just short so the effect isn’t working right.

      But Anya and Josh just went for the crazy.

    • Maria Rosenfire

      Oh look, another episode of PR. See my face? This is my not-caring face. You should recognize it by now– I’ve been wearing it every Thursday night since the second episode.

      One thing I’d change? The judges. They’ve run out of funny quips, and they’re left with nothing but mean-spiritedness, hamming to the cameras, and their enormous crackpipe.

      • Anonymous

        I agree, new judges would bring a fresh eye….and newer funnier quips.

    • Anonymous

      OH and less product placement! Lose the commercial segment! There is NO other show that so blatantly sells air time, extends the episode length JUST to accommodate product placement – whores!

    • Donna Schmidt

      Challenges that show whether the designers have talent and can execute their ideas, instead of ones that foster personality drama.

      • Anonymous

        Amen.

    • Anonymous

      Get rid of the producer-controlled replicants that have replaced the judges.

      That said, I will not watch tonight. I have tried and tried, but I just can’t care anymore. It has been obvious for some time that talent has become progressively less important than drama. I can’t even muster up any anger at the farce that the show has become. I am just sad. I will look forward to TLo’s critiques, they never disappoint, but I just can’t watch anymore.

      • Anonymous

        Im kind of with ya.. it takes an effort to watch…. and I work too hard all day to be stressed while watching tv….

    • Anonymous

      Just watched season one again…..  do it again !

    • Anonymous

      Ban corset tops.

      • Anonymous

        And circle skirts. And exposed zippers. And destroy all the Bedazzlers.

    • Eclectic Mayhem

      Show Bunim/Murray the door and don’t let that door hit the company on the backside as it leaves.

      Cast for talent.  Pay the designers if no one with any actual nouse is willing to take part.

      Remove Tim’s gag.

      Here’s a wee treat for the Whovians in the Lounge (I know you’re out there!).  It’s a skit from the UK’s biennial Telethon Comic Relief and it’s worth a watch:

      Comic Relief skit: Bovvered?

      • Anonymous

        Thank you for the laugh! Love the link.

      • Anonymous

        Thanks for the link!

    • Anonymous

      They need to realize that maybe the reason they keep losing the Emmy is because of the more and more obvious producer manipulation and if they let the judges judge, they’ll deserve an Emmy.

    • Anonymous

      Designers who can actually design an entire outfit, not just a little dress!

    • Lori

      Cancel the rest of this season and put All Stars on starting TONIGHT.

      • Anonymous

        Heck yeah!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDI2DLE7DE3YPW2ONIHBWOVHMA ecallaw

      OH SWEET MOTHER OF PEARL.  I haven’t read the comments to see if anyone else (or all of you) have pointed this out, but my directv guide has titled the After the Runway “Lets Hear It For the Girls.”  Does that mean Josh and Viktor are out, and it’s Kimberly, Anya and LAURA???? I just can’t fathom Laura over Viktor!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDI2DLE7DE3YPW2ONIHBWOVHMA ecallaw

        Seriously, replying to myself, but hasn’t anyone else seen this yet?  I’m in a bit of freak out mode here.

        • Anonymous

          I read it, I’m just too horrified to respond.  I need a drink.

          • Logo Girl

            I think it might mean the opposite.

      • Anonymous

        I bet you’re right. Frankly I saw it coming last week.

    • Anonymous

      Hey everyone! What’s good to drink here? I have a feeling we’re gonna need it to get through tonight. To answer TLo’s question; A complete overhaul starting with new Management!

    • Anonymous

      Easy answer to this question!  More face time with Tim.

      • Anonymous

        always a good idea!!!

    • http://profiles.google.com/bratling2 Laura Davies

      Hrm?  How about we all go to bed and find out who posted the least craporific thing tomorrow?  ;) Kthanks.  Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

      • Anonymous

        I second that!

    • Anonymous

      Don’t tell the judges who made what on the runway until after they’ve cast their votes.  

      • Anonymous

        Excellent suggestion

      • Now I am The Bee

        That is a great idea! 

    • Anonymous

      One thing?

      BM, I’m sorry, but you are out! 

      Also, stop sucking. 

    • Anonymous

      Jaw Dropping Designs…not jaw dropping drama 

    • Anonymous

      Stop filling typecasted roles.

    • Now I am The Bee

      Oh my.  Only one thing??!?!  Ok–integrity of the judges without producer manipulation.  NONE!  Let the judges see the fashions and critique them honestly and without fear of someone else (producer!) overriding their decisions. 

      That and better designers.  (Oooops that was two–so shoot me.)   It does seem that since the Christian S season, the caliber of the designers has gone downhill a bit.   Oh–there have been bright spots–Seth Aaron, Mondo, that chick that hung around with Peach–I liked her stuff.  But on average–not as skilled or creative as those of the first four seasons. 

      So–before you call out the firing squad, please may I have a beer?  Specifically a Pilsner Urguell.  I’m feeling rather…light tonight.

      • Anonymous

        Totally agree, first four seasons were the best! Let me get you that beer.

        • Now I am The Bee

          Well–thanks!  And I’ll get the next round.  I’ll need it to get through watching Josh and Anya for the next hour and a half…  :) 

      • Anonymous

        Hubby and I regularly pine (like we’re elderly and talking about the “good old days”) for the Christian S season–the best ever, in our opinion, and it’s been collectively downhill from there.

    • Anonymous

      Time it correctly so we don’t have a dozen contestants at Fashion Week. It makes it all anti-climatic.

      • Suzanne Heist

        Yes!

    • Anonymous

      No love for Josh here, but he’s right about Queen Anya.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

         yah but anya refused to give HIM fabric. personally I call that karma for his bad attitude

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

      rooting for Vincent, Anya, and Kim final 3

      though as long as Josh doesn’t make it ahem

      • Anonymous

        I think it says something about this season that a lot of us still can’t remember their names (especially the best designer left LOL).

    • Anonymous

      “Question of the Week: What is the ONE thing the show needs to do to get back in your good graces for Season 10?”Is it terrible that the only thing I can think of is for the show to just get cancelled already?  Please, just leave us with the happy memories of the good seasons!

    • Anonymous

      So top FOUR? What crap.

      • Anonymous

        I think it’s going to be like previous seasons where four designers show the judges mini-collections in the first part of the finale, but only the final three will be contenders for the win at Fashion Week.

        • Anonymous

          I hate that.  It’s such bullshit…like if I were told all year I was going to the Super Bowl.  And it just turned out that my favorite team is in the game.  Then I get to the gate, and they tell me sorry, you can’t go in.  It’s just cruel, like the thing they did at the beginning of this season.

          • Anonymous

            On the other hand, the way they time it so a ton of people show collections anyway kind of takes a lot of excitement out of the whole thing from the beginning, IMHO. Especially in these past two seasons where the judging has been so uneven that it hardly matters if you win, as long as people who matter can find a way to see your collection.

    • Anonymous

      cancel. (or bring back magic elves.)

      that’s about it.

    • Now I am The Bee

      Every time Josh speaks, The Hubs points to his wrist (where Josh has HIS OWN NAME tatooed) and rolls his eyes.  Makes me laugh! 

      • Anonymous

        At least it isn’t on his neck, where several WOMEN I work with have their OWN names.  Gross.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Really? Do they also have their addresses and phone numbers in case they get wasted and forget who they are and where they live?

    • Joe J

      This visit to Governor’s Island to view artwork is just making me pine for next Wednesday’s “Work of Art”.

      Also, “artillerary”? Shut up, Josh.

      • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

        I was just typing that. He’s such an ass.

      • Anonymous

        I know “artillerary”!!

    • Logo Girl

      I was thinking about this today. Project Runway needs to change networks again. Changing production companies wouldn’t hurt, either. Probably not go back to Elves/Bravo… Andy Cohen would insist they do all their challenges for the Housewives and Patti Stanger. But Lifetime has brought the show down to this dismal “spunky gal” LCD. 

      I think the show is doomed.

    • Anonymous

      Josh’s shorts make my eyes hurt! I need a refill already!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

      Stained glass in old churches is about using light to create an almost metaphysical space and light. 

      however I think the only inspiration he’ll get from the glass is going to be using a gaudy print with black lines and lots of gaudy embellishments

    • Anonymous

      I have a fairly good idea that the ONE thing I needed them to do has already been NOT done.  I need/needed them to award the win to the designer who was the best overall and had the best finale collection.

      Which I’m sure did not happen.

      I’m sure it was handed to someone with a collection of sashes, a sex tape, a nice smile, and no sleeves.

      FML.  No, FO(Our)L.

    • Anonymous

      Has anyone gone over budget so often and by so much as Laura.

    • Joe J

      Hell, I have a feeling that whatever we’re all drinking should just be pumped in intravenously for the rest of the show.

      ETA – this is supposed to be a response to alwaysCoco’s refill request. Damned laptop is already tits-up tonight, it seems.

      • Anonymous

        I’m already there!

    • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

      Oh FUCK! Not another twist. Poor Tim must utterly hate doing this to the designers every freaking time.

    • http://profiles.google.com/gillianholroyd gillian holroyd

      the button bag

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      better contestants, honest & unfixed judging.

    • Anonymous

      I love how the preview doesn’t even try to hide what the button bag is for.  Um, hey! There’s Bryce. 

    • Anonymous

      “When it comes to spending, I like the finer things in life” LOL! Laura is such a tool.

    • Lori

      What Anya really meant:  I’m inspired by sculpture because sculpture doesn’t have sleeves.

      • Anonymous

        I’m reading comments on my break at work, to soothe me until I can get home and watch the nightmare unravel myself.  You just made me spit-take my coffee.  Well done, ma’am, and we are in COMPLETE agreement. :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

        And I can wear it on my droopy ears.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        She must love Venus de Milo. Venus doesn’t even need sleeves.

      • Anonymous

        ROTFLMAO

    • Anonymous

      Ohh.  A peptobismal lounge.

      I may need it after this episode.

    • Anonymous

      Oh Kimberly — NOT orange!   

      I don’t have a good feeling.

    • Anonymous

      I have an unhealthy dislike of Clinique. And I have hiccups. Will gulping sauvignon blanc help with either one of those problems?

      • Molly OBM

        Sounds like important research, try it out and report back!

        • Anonymous

          Well, I no longer have hiccups. I also no longer have any sauvignon blanc. I still have that healthy dislike, though. Perhaps I should open another bottle…

          • Suzanne Heist

            Open it. I will help you drink it.

            • Anonymous

              You are more than welcome to join me. Would you like a glass or a straw?

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              An IV is the way to go. Straight into the bloodstream. No messing around.

      • MilaXX

        Probably not, but if you drink enough you may not care anymore.

    • Anonymous

      I’d say: 

      a more talented selection of competitors, more focus on design which means judges who actually judge based on design instead of whatever crack-notions they’ve worked from this season,no team challenges (I hate those), but I really liked the head-to-head challenge last week (though I hated to see Bert leave…::sob::),and more TIM!!!

    • Anonymous

      This will be great for Anya to have seamstresses.   I’ll bet the others are gnashing their teeth.

      • Anonymous

        Exactly what I was thinking. 

    • Anonymous

      If Anya has any brains, she’ll pick Bert!  he’s got the design & construction skills

    • Anonymous

      Yeah Kimberly for picking Becky! Viktor I would not have picked Oliver, he is soooooo slow.

      • Anonymous

        and he’s lost any kind of accent!

    • Anonymous

      Smart choice, Anya!!!

      • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

        She is a smart cookie, that Anya.

    • Anonymous

      Why would you pick Bert last? Even if you don’t like him, he’s pretty good at sewing. If it were purely on technical ability, I would guess that Olivier would be last. He’s just so slow.

      • Anonymous

        I can see Viktor passing him over because they haven’t communicated well.  I’m not sure about his picking Olivier tho

        • Anonymous

          I think Precious Moments is the one who most appears to need a punch in the face, so maybe Viktor wants to have him around for that…you know, just in case.

    • Anonymous

      Lucky Anya for getting Bert. Wonder if he’ll make her a jacket?

      • Anonymous

        he will make all of her clothes!

    • Lori

      Olvr?  For real?

    • Anonymous

      The dice just got loaded in Anya’s favor, I think. Bert is the perfect complement to her because he knows how to construct the designs she creates.

      • Anonymous

        Pisses me off… he will do all the sewing and he is excellent at construction… Damn, I bet this was not so random….and I cant stand her!

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, but why didn’t anyone else pick him??  She picked FOURTH…he’d have been the first one I grabbed…

    • Anonymous

      Why would Victor have picked Olivier? I’m scared! 

      • Anonymous

        I know..is he stupid??? how does that help him??

    • Anonymous

      Should Viktor have picked Olivier?  Olivier is soooo slow.

    • Anonymous

      Stained glass *eyeroll*

    • Joe J

      Becky, TOTALLY empathizing with you, girl.

      Oh, fuck – AGAIN with the “aggressive” bullshit, Joshua?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IHWCJIMARF4OOW6PQZQS3RFOOA JillK
    • Eclectic Mayhem

      Heaven forfend that Anya should have to do her own fucking sewing at this stage in the game…!

      Argh!

    • Anonymous

      Kim was smart in picking Becky because Bec can sew her ass off!

      • Joe J

        And has the perfect “go along to get along” attitude for an assistant.

        • Anonymous

          Exactly! WTH is Viktor thinking??!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IHWCJIMARF4OOW6PQZQS3RFOOA JillK

      “Question of the Week: What is the ONE thing the show needs to do to get back in your good graces for Season 10?”Stop casting for drama and start casting for talent. THEN, start JUDGING for talent and not for “ratings.” The ratings WILL follow if they do those two things.

    • Anonymous

      More focus on the creative process and creative freedom to balance out the dramalama and ridiculous challenge twists( a second look created in pairs inspired by one of these exotic insects made to fit a muppet model) please and thank you.

      Why did Viktor pick Olivier? Dumb move. Sads.

    • Anonymous

      I’m not Josh’s biggest fan, but he speaks the truth. I don’t know if it’s the beauty or her design either.

      • Joe J

        Eh, even stopped (and tacky) clocks are right twice a day, as that old saying goes. 

    • Joe J

      Hmm, so losing a challenge where you win $20,000 is more upsetting that losing a challenge where all you get is bragging rights?  Thank you for that BLINDING flash of the obvious, Bryce.

    • http://www.facebook.com/samuel.j.donovan Samuel Joesph Donovan

      MORE DARING CONTESTANTS!! I mean, this season was better than the past three in terms of challenging construction (for the most part) but when was the last time we REALLY saw someone pull some really unusually beautiful thing out of their ass? I’m thinking the Saturn challenge from season five, with Leanne and Korto.

    • Anonymous

      a drink isnt gonna get me through this tonight. I need a jug of moonshone and a puke bucket.

      • Anonymous

        im so upset, i cant even spell…. moonshine!!! or a gallon of Everclear.  either one will suffice.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

          May I suggest novacaine?

    • MilaXX

      I would feel sorry for Josh if he hadn’t also benefited from producer manipulation. He’s just pissed that beauty queen trumped drama queen. I’m also getting tired of him calling someone “aggressive” every time he doesn’t like the conversation.

    • Anonymous

      Josh accusing others of being “aggressive”. LOL! I WILL NOT HAVE IT!

      Laura working outsider her “box”. LOL!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

      Hating Laura’s already. As a graphic designer, it GRATES on me so much when graphic prints like the circle print she’s using aren’t lined up. They really mess with how the eye moves around the garment.

      • Anonymous

        That fabric annoys me so much — and why as a designer would you leave the design of the circles up to the fabric maker.

        It’ looks sloppy.

        And tacky.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDI2DLE7DE3YPW2ONIHBWOVHMA ecallaw

      I already wrote this once earlier but only a couple of people noticed it and I need more reassurance that I’m wrong! On my DirecTv guide, the After the Runway is called “Lets Hear It For the Girls.”  Does that mean Josh and Viktor are out, and it’s Kimberly, Anya and LAURA???? 

      Edited for typo

      • Anonymous

        Not seeing it on my cable guide. I don’t know what the deal is with directv

      • Anonymous

        To be fair, they probably all love to hear “It’s Raining Men”–so can’t we consider them ALL girls? :)

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDI2DLE7DE3YPW2ONIHBWOVHMA ecallaw

          Ha, makes me feel a LITTLE better.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe it just means that the girls will be the guests tonight. 

      • Now I am The Bee

        That’s what my cable info says:  Let’s hear it for the Girls” . Sigh. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/samuel.j.donovan Samuel Joesph Donovan

      Also, is it just be, or is there really no one worth rooting for at this point? I’ll illustrate my thinking:
      Kimberly–such a perfect contestant, with a great taste level, and an interesting aesthetic, but…is it too spoiler-y to say that her finale collection was disappointing?
      Viktor–he’s kind of whiny, and tacky/boring/cliche, and all over the place as a designer
      Laura–Also all over the place and tacky, but honestly just kind of boring and I have no idea why she’s still there, especially given some of the eliminees
      Anya–CANNOT SEW OMG
      Josh–Rofl.

      • Anonymous

        no you nailed it…No one is worthy!

      • Joe J

        Totally pulling for Kimberly, but I just don’t think she’s impressed the judges enough.

        After her, based on merit, I would have to say I’m rooting for Viktor.  But man, his bitchery and hissing seems to have come back in full force lately and I’m just wanting to mute every one of his interviews.

      • Anonymous

        At this point I want Anya to win just to see Josh’s head explode. But yeah, there’s really no one to root for. Viktor, by default.

    • Anonymous

      Kimberly!   More plastic!!

    • Anonymous

      Tim’s expression about Laura’s looks is PRICELESS…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

      Is ti just me, or have the editors been trying to paint Viktor as the villain for the past couple episodes?

      • Anonymous

        I think they’ve been gearing up for the battle of the mean, err, pretty gis. Sux for Viktor.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

        They have really focused on his “snark”.

    • Anonymous

      I still love Tim!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Viktor putting his palm on the mannequin’s boob.  lol

    • Anonymous

      What do they need to do to gain my trust back?  Bring the talent back!  Unfortunately, that probably isn’t going to happen.  The show has lost it’s integrity.  Much like actual models avoid Tyra’s carnival, I imagine designers with true talent and vision see joining Project Runway as a black mark against their credibility. 

    • Anonymous

      Oooh, No Kimmy! Listen to Tim! I love Becky’s facial expression, it reads ” This is a hot ass mess”!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

      Anya, I dare you to make sleeves.

    • Anonymous

      A wrap pant?

    • Anonymous

      Is Josh obsessing about jackets or what?

    • Anonymous

      Everyone’s already mentioned my top choices, more Tim (unleashed) and more talent, but I also would really like a muzzle for Kors. I truly can’t take him anymore — he just spouts random crap in that screechy voice in a vain attempt to be funny when he’s not just repeating the same old Kors-o-Tron Quip-o-matic insults. So tired of his schtick. It might be nice to inject some new blood on the judging panel.

    • Anonymous

      Oli and his boob issues!

    • Anonymous

      It’s been bothering me that Tim said Bert was his least favorite, but maybe we’ll learn something about that tonight. I know that Tim also does not like Anya, and was especially irritated with her in this episode, according to what I read.

      • Anonymous

        Where did you read that?   I think he’s irritated at her lagging behind and stretching the time limit.

        • Anonymous

          A reporter was on set for this episode back in August:

          http://tinyurl.com/3jxwoav

           

          • Anonymous

            That gives me a new answer to today’s question: Fire Sara Rea. Her comments about the process of putting the stuff together being “like watching paint dry” is evidence that she should not be in charge of this show. Get someone who is interested in the process.

            • http://modernretrowoman.com DrJulieAnn

               I was shocked by her extremely negative comments.  But, I have to add that I was laughing at how the key players were saying that there emphasis was on clothing construction and not drama.  I had to double check to make sure I hadn’t accidentally gone to an interview about a different show.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Jeez, I know it. There’s no one at Bunim/Murray with any interest in the show?

          • Anonymous

            Thanks for the link – very interesting.  So when Tim pointed to the design he absolutely hated, the reporter said “I am forbidden to describe it in detail, but let’s just say it looks like something from Madonna’s “Like a Virgin” days. Gunn folds his arms and frowns. Then he reaches for the garment’s collar: “What is this? It
            looks like a cupcake sleeve. Dreadful.”   Which outfit do you all think he is talking about? 

            Favorite quote was from Heidi “Not that Project Runway is in danger of descending into the gutter of train-wreck reality TV. “The core of the show is how clothes are made and the passion of the designers.”

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Duena-DeSiner/100000055863425 Duena DeSiner

              It has to be Josh C.’s Goth cocktail waitress abomination from the art student challenge.

              And yeah, I almost burst out laughing at that quote. Although, to be fair, she hadn’t yet seen the edit job done on this season, but she had to have been aware of how very much talent and skill were overlooked in favor of “personality” (*cough*DramaVortexPotential*cough*) during the casting process…

          • Anonymous

            Thanks for the link.  That article reinforces what a lot of people here are saying about PR.

      • Anonymous

        Tim is usually irritated by people who consistently don’t listen, especially when their obstinacy is to their detriment – see Collins, Kenley and Sosa, Emilio. Bert never gave much indication that he was listening to Tim, the pet store challenge being the most obvious example of this.

        • Anonymous

          That’s true. I hope that’s all it’s about.

    • Anonymous

      The one thing the show needs to do: no more hairy butt shots, okay? I haven’t recovered from the trauma.

      • Anonymous

        HAHA

    • Anonymous

      Kimberly is in trouble unless she can pull it out of her hat at the last second.

      And Josh is completely focusing on Anya instead of worrying about his own stuff.  Viktor is also dissing her. Sheesh….

      But…Laura and Kimberly are shooting themselves in the foot.  

      If I had to guess at this point, not even seeing the mini-collections, it’ll be Josh, Viktor & Anya…

      • Anonymous

        I just want to tell him to shut up and concentrate on his own stuff.   He’s such a victim.  Drives me crazy.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Bryce has the patience of a saint. He did his best to keep Josh focused.

    • MilaXX

      Unless Laura pulls a rabbit out of a hat I think final 3 are y final 3 as Viktor, Anya and  Kimberly. Laura simply has no taste and isn’t aware of it.

    • Anonymous

      My one thing I’d change is to bring back the Magical Elves.  If they became the producers again, everything else could be fixed except for the sucky commercials on Lifetime.

    • Anonymous

      oh, poor Laura.   

      Destiny.  

      Overrated.

    • Anonymous

      To be back on BRavo

    • Anonymous

      Oh, Kimberly… Please pull it together.
      Josh… Shut the fuck up
      Laura…Shut the fuck up
      Vicktor..just keep sewing

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

      “They all look like they have goiters growing out of their waists.”  Oh, my!

    • http://twitter.com/Alloyjane Alloy Jane

      Question of the Week: What is the ONE thing the show needs to do to get back in your good graces for Season 10?
      This show needs to inject some integrity into itself.

    • Anonymous

      So did the producers do this “bringing back the other designers” so that Anya had a chance of doing something a little more complicated?  This show is making me cynical.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

        They did it so someone could do all her sewing.

        • Anonymous

          For Anya anything more than a straight seem is “complicated”.

      • Anonymous

        They often bring back the other designers to help at the end.

      • Anonymous

        Except they do it almost every season (possibly actually every season but I can’t be sure). 

        • Anonymous

          True, but I think(?) they usually do that when it’s down to the final 3 and they’re getting ready for Fashion Week.

    • Anonymous

      No respect for the women, eh, Viktor?

      • Anonymous

        Seriously!!! What WAS that???? I’m insanely crazed by that whole little speech of his!!!

        • Anonymous

          Men.   Where do they get this idea they are innately superior to women?    I mean it starts in the sandbox.

    • Anonymous

      VIKTOR!!!!  JOSH??? at Fashion week?  NOOO!!!!!

      • Joe J

        You know, I’m thinking it might be quite delicious if those two are the ones sent home.

    • Anonymous

      What is that horizontal strip red top????

      ohmygod.   hideous.  Whose was that?

      • Anonymous

        Josh, I think. Heinous.

    • Lori

      I’m so freaking sick of  the constant interviews where the designers rag on each other. 

    • Anonymous

      Good gawd – Josh’s is hideous. Is he going to be auffed?

      • Anonymous

        From your key board to God’s eyes/ears!

      • Anonymous

        Could the fashion gods be so kind?

    • Anonymous

      Damn, Anya’s dress is a bit revealing, no?

    • Anonymous

      The show should go back to having judges that are fair in their assessments. They should change their focus from liking looks that are on trend to looks that are new and great designs. As you all have mentioned before, many of the looks that have won this season and last were looks that had just previously been seen on the runway. They have been poorly made knockoffs of other looks. 

      Execution definitely goes hand in hand with design. If you cannot execute your vision with perfection, then I believe you would not be able to effectively communicate and delegate your design to someone else. This season, the judges have been (over)praising looks that are poorly executed. It has just been so aggravating to watch this season. 

    • Anonymous

      I’m gonna blindly guess that Kim and Josh are going home. 

      • http://twitter.com/Kamilaahh Kamil

        I think you’re right. Which makes me *headdesk* because that means privilege!Barbie is going to Fashion Week – but I’ve had a while to get used to the idea, as I’ve thought that since I saw her collection. Not because it’s so omg amazing! but because it looked like it cost more than they usually give the decoys to spend. 

        I’ve been keeping hope alive by telling myself she’ll be the last one eliminated (a la Michael C. last season) and that designer usually gets almost as much cash as the others. 

        That said, it really looked to me like Kimberly shot herself in the foot tonight, so I will be sad, but not too surprised, if she’s sent home as well as the vortex.

    • Anonymous

      Everytime Viktor and Clinque say they’re definitely in I get a bad feeling that the producers are lumping them together for a fall, in which case, nooooooo! Not Viktor!

      • Anonymous

        Well, I think its will probably be a case of one is in and one is out. Now let’s guess who it will be? Of course with the way the judges have been going I wouldn’t be shocked if Josh was kept over Viktor.

    • Anonymous

      I think Viktor has good taste.   I put Viktor and Anya on the top for their taste level.

    • Anonymous

      Good God, Heidi looks like shit warmed over. What the heck?

    • Anonymous

      Zoe is amazing!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      They’ll probably pick two for fashion week and have two do a sudden death match just before… AGAIN,

    • MilaXX

      I follow myFDB on twiter. I had no idea Zoe was a part of it.

    • Anonymous

      The proportions on Josh’s second look are all wrong, and the third look is a tanktop and a sheet.

    • Anonymous

      Josh’s stuff looks terrible!!

    • Anonymous

      Josh’s looks are awful.

    • Anonymous

      Kimberly’s looks are too origasmic.

      • Joe J

        “Origasmic”?  STEALING that.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

      Josh

      boring canvas bag
      bulky avril lavinge barbie
      sequined toga party after a few drinks

      • Suzanne Heist

        LOL! Spot on!

    • Anonymous

      My EYES.   

      Laura’s gown. 

      If the judges like that — omgod

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

      With Anya, I like the red look a lot, the black one is a little simple but good, the white one is not so interesting :

      • Anonymous

        Special panties only with that white dress.  :p

    • Anonymous

      LOVE Anya’s looks.

    • Anonymous

      Can Anya sew f-ing sleeves?

      • Anonymous

        No.

    • Anonymous

      Anya: “I found something in myself i didn’t know i had.”
      Yeah, Bert.

      • Anonymous

        I can assure you that Bert would never be found in Anya.

        • Anonymous

          OK, that made me laugh out loud. : )

        • Anonymous

          superlike

      • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

        Perfect comment. I’m still laughing.

      • Anonymous

        Anya’s collection was PURE Bert. I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt, since she bought the fabrics, but I can’t help but notice her aesthetic went from tropical/easy/prints to simple/classy/solids as soon as she paired up with Bert.

        • Anonymous

          Wait a minute, do you not remember the last challenge though? Anya just did a solid/simple dress for the bird thing without Bert present at all.

    • Anonymous

      It’s all crap. None of you are going to fashion week. A Project Runway first.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor & Laura – meh.

    • Anonymous

      Love Kimberly’s coat, but that second look is verging on tacky. The skirt is too busy. Same with the third look

      Laura’s first skirt needs to be a little longer, but it’s fine. The second is boring and kind of ugly. LOVE the gown.

      Can’t really see many details on the first dress, but it looks fine. The other two are simple,but fine. The white dress seems to have some construction issues. None are cohesive. I can defnitely see Bert’s influence.

      Victor’s first look is alright, and his second and third are snoozefests. The third makes her ass looks huge.

    • Anonymous

      Josh’s looks are BAD.  First one is poorly fitted,2nd is just ugly and unflattering, 3rd is bizarre.  Huh.

      Kimberly’s coat is good, the skirt is just strange, I kind of like the 3rd look–it’s strange but interesting.

      And here’s Laura’s:  first look not bad, 2nd just looks poorly fitted and sad, 3rd is way too busy and there’s something weird about the fit over the abdomen.

      Anya’s 1st look is nice, 2nd is really nice–I like them, 3rd gown is very nice.  She’s the best so far.

      Viktor:  1st look is really good; 2nd I like too, though I don’t like the zip down the butt, 3rd is plain but nice, though it makes her butt/hips look HUGE.

      Okay, I think Anya & Viktor are shoo-ins.  Not sure about the 3rd.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

      Nina has got that “I smell a rat” look.

    • MilaXX

      Bert served Anya well. That collection is definitely going to get her to fashion week.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Making a hanky would have gotten her to fashion week, but I agree. It’s a good collection.

    • Anonymous

      Josh’s stuff was hiddy. Kimberly didnt really reference the source material and her stuff looks overwrought. I’d go with Anya, Viktor and Laura.

    • Anonymous

      So, my ranking would be Viktor, Kimberly, Anya, LauraK and then Josh. Both Laura and Josh had one absolutely hideous look. Anya’s was all kinda simple and Season 1, Project Runway when no one had sleeves and it was all dresses wall to wall. I think they may tell Viktor that his second look was too secretary at an insurance office in Teaneck, but hey, he had prints, he had sleeves, he had structure. Anya is such smoke and mirrors.

    • Anonymous

      Thinking about it:  Viktor, Anya & a design-off between Kimberly & Josh.  Laura–auf…(and it’s about time!)

    • Anonymous

      Viktor and Anya’s were definitely the best although I suspect Anya will be criticized for lack of range.  The other three are pretty bad and it’s hard to pick the single worst one – though if forced to, I would probably pick Laura even though the first look wasn’t bad.

    • Anonymous

      double post, sry

    • Anonymous

      I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine. I’d like to see less obvious producer manipulation.

    • Anonymous

      The only thing I liked was Anya’s red look. And it pains me to say that I liked something of hers. The rest I just thought ranged from awful to boring.

      This show really brings out the worst in me.

    • Anonymous

      Please, PLEASE, for the love of Fashion, please give these people longer challenges.  I am not interested in seeing crap pulled out of asses.  I want to know what people can make in 2-3 days, not 12 hours for fuck’s sake!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Josh’s gown looks like a bathing suit with a cover up.

    • Anonymous

      Josh actually called his stuff “really beautiful”  He’s delusional.

    • Anonymous

      Did he just say the shine was turning Josh on? Is he channeling Vincent?

    • Anonymous

      Kimberly – Issey Miake or fabric goiter?

      • Anonymous

        Seriously.

    • Anonymous

      My one wish is pretty much the same as everyone else’s. Tell the producers to take their thumbs off the scale.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

        Love your name!  Dobie Gillis

    • Anonymous

      Disco Halloween! The braying tangerine strikes again.

    • Anonymous

      Exchange student from…Holland! 

    • Anonymous

      Kimberly is busy shooting herself in the foot-in-mouth…

    • Anonymous

      Laura: “I saw a lot of circles, so I made a lot of circles. Impressed?”

      No, honey.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        OMG, she’s such an idiot. I think she always sees a lot of circles.

    • Anonymous

      Blenley – matchey, matchey!

    • Lori

      I’m sure it’s a huge coincidence that Mondo’s circles gown was probably the most discussed garment last season.

      • Anonymous

        I was thinking of that dress too!

    • Now I am The Bee

      Ooop there it is.  MK used the words disco pumpkin.  We knew it was coming! 

    • Anonymous

      Nina likes Anya…Heidi likes it…Duchess likes it…and Josh is about to have a hissy fit.  get over yourself Josh…

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

        His head is about to blow.

    • Anonymous

      I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing kool aid. 

    • Anonymous

      I can’t believe Nina just complimented Anya on matching hair and makeup on her models.

      • Anonymous

        really, truly–that girl can do no wrong in their eyes.  wtf?

    • Anonymous

      Laura Kathleen’s dust cover/baggy housecoat from a Depression-era housewife who found out her husband was cheating on her, so she jumped out of her wrinkled, angst-filled bed and shot him and then took off for the Dustbowl, well, it doesn’t work for me.

      • Anonymous

        Was that thing hiddy or what?

    • Anonymous

      That vast sucking sound was the judges adoring Anya.

    • Now I am The Bee

      Oh fer…just shoot MK now.  Anya is pushing herself?  There are NO SLEEVES.  Never has she made sleeves. 

      • Anonymous

        Wait….she has made A sleeve, hasn’t she? Wasn’t there one sleeve on that kimono dress thingy? So she has showed a lot of range. /end sarcasm

        • Anonymous

          Laura sewed that sleeve I think.

          • Anonymous

            NO she didn’t.

    • Anonymous

      And I called the secretary comment! WOOO!

    • Anonymous

      I think I’m going to drink heavily after this episode.

      • Anonymous

        After? Why not during?

        • Anonymous

          In addition to during.  =)

    • Anonymous

      Huh.  Josh gave up bitch-fest to recommend Anya.

      • Anonymous

        Only because he thinks left on her own she won’t be able to sew her collection and he’d be able to beat her.

      • http://twitter.com/jce0211 Jamie Epley

        He did that probably to underhandedly remind the judges that Anya has no sewing skills.  They have been giving her the underdog cut that producers have been wringing all season so as to give the Drama Vortex something to bitch about. We all know she’s going to the finals, judges, now swat the producers away and say what’s REALLY on you mind.

    • Anonymous

      Kimberly–LAURA and Anya??? If those two went to fashion week, YOU would win!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Heather-Waddell/10401341 Heather Waddell

      They need to give Tim the respect he deserves. He needs to be back on the contestant-choosing panel, they need to give him back his old job of actually MENTORING the contestants and not acting as exposition, and they should let him plan some of the challenges because he could plan some of this stuff better in his sleep

    • Anonymous

      Um…the other designers are picking Anya….ooookay. 

      • Anonymous

        I think Josh did it because he knows he can sew better than her when it comes down to it.

    • Allison Woods

      I get my kicks ABOVE the waistline, Sunshine.

      One of the best songs from a musical, ever, from one of the worst musicals, ever.

    • Joe J

      Which two should go home?  Oh, just throw darts at a wall.  With the five designers tacked onto it.  First two to die from blood loss can’t go.

    • Anonymous

      Pretty sure it’s Anya and Viktor.  Still think there will be a design-off between Josh & Kimberly.

      • Anonymous

        Definitely Anya & Viktor. And I can totally see the design-off between Josh & Kim.

    • Anonymous

      A TLo retrospective of MK’s comments (all of which seem to use the word “disco” as an adjective): this needs to happen.

    • Anonymous

      ARE THEY BEING PAID TO SAY THIS SHIT OR WHAT?!? josh was literally just talking shit about anya ~ ugh, the producers have made me hate this show so much.

      e tu viktor?

      • Anonymous

        What do you think Anya did with her 20k.

        • Anonymous

          bahahaha, +1.

        • Anonymous

          Earrings, definitely earrings

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

          Bought really crappy earrings.

        • Anonymous

          made more copies of her porn tape to put out!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QVNXE5PQQVTSQHG77WZA3VRL5Q Alli Lon

          She’s using it to start a foundation in Trinidad that mentors and funds people engaged in creative enterprises…e.g. designers, film producers, artists etc. You can look for the article in the Trinidad Guardian newspaper. 

    • Anonymous

      Interesting that though everyone has been dissing Anya, 100% of them said she should go to Fashion Week.

      Wow.

      • MilaXX

        THIS! They were all hating ion her, yet they all pretty much just sent her to fashion week.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s black dress was GORGEOUS??  WTF.

      They must have some pretty damn good crack back stage for the judges.

      • Anonymous

        now, it was a nice black sack……

        • Anonymous

          Did she have to sew her model into it?  =)

          • Anonymous

            No, Bert did that for her…. if Bert was not there, she would have stapled her or glued her in!

        • Lisa

          It was a *fabulous* pillowcase, wasn’t it?

    • Anonymous

      Just skip the next episode and give it to the porn star, I mean beauty queen.

      • Anonymous

        And people wonder why she shaves one side of her head. :p

    • Anonymous

      For chrissakes, Anya can’t make sleeves, she can’t make pants, Bert made her fricking clothes for her. They are all his aesthetic, also. What I want are judges who pick designers who know clothes, know how they are constructed, know how to manipulate fabric and don’t pick winners because they are good looking.

      • Anonymous

        AMEN!

        • margaret meyers

          Bert did say their taste matched, and I liked that he was excited to work with her.  The silhouette, the use of solid colors, the narrow fit — all Burt.   Still, she got an assistant who could sew and she still didn’t add sleeves or tailoring anywhere.

    • Anonymous

      GOOD GOD IN HEAVEN. They are complimenting Josh’s trash-fest. And HAHAHAHAHA, they just said Laura K has no range. After Anya sent three tablecloths in pretty colors down the runway. They are so gonna pick Viktor, Anya and Josh to go to fashion week and boot Kimberly and LK. And they are SO gonna get what they deserve on the runway. The sad thing is, I watched The Office and completely forgot PR was on tonight. The road to the finale, and I forgot it was on. Well, you know, reap what you sow and all that shite.

      • Anonymous

        The way Nina was complimenting Josh’s stuff!  What?!  What an absolute turn around from the rest of the season.

        And seriously, three tablecloths in pretty colors is probably the most appropriate description for Anya’s crap.

        • margaret meyers

          Josh’s skirt, tank top and vest were hiddy.  His model looked awful.  Poor girl.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=49702581 Susan Bullard Mayer

        Me too!  You can’t deny a episode with Schrute Farms!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

      Not understanding the anya hate

      I’m just glad victor and anya are clearly going to the finals. They’re my favorites.

       

      • Anonymous

        It’s mainly because it appears that Anya can’t sew very well and her designs often look very similar to each other. Sure, today she changed it up a bit. But I don’t think it’s a coincidence that on the day she works with Bert, her collection turns out very Bert-like. If that collection hadn’t been labeled, I would have thought it was Bert’s collection. She also has a kind of quiet manipulation that comes out every now and then (like when Josh asked for fabric or Becky being tormented). And finally, people are upset that the judges seem to realize none of this and praise her to the heavens.

        • Anonymous

          You are correct  Jasmaree….. She is such a player, it makes me sick!!!!

          • Anonymous

            She’s a player with a really fantastic eye.  I don’t get all the Anya hate.  I like her.  She’s competitive.  She wants to win.  Viktor and Josh spent too much time bitching about her lack of skill instead of focusing on their runway looks. 

        • Now I am The Bee

          Yes–Laura was sent home saying she didn’t have any range in her designs–and yet here’s Anya whose three looks were almost identicle save for a few details.  No jacket.  No sleeves.  No pants.  No nothing except simple dresses of different lengths.  Arrrgh. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EYYAY25W7VS5BYCOCTK62SSUBI tw125

            I get what you’re saying but from what I’ve seen of the show this season. Anya’s lack of range is still way more interesting than just about anyone else’s lack of range except maybe Victor. Bert’s okay (Although he’s guilty of all but refusing to participate in some challenges and of being much nastier to his competitors but he’s apparently been forgiven for that.), but I haven’t seen anything he’s done that couldn’t be purchased at Macy’s (except for that Avant Garde look).

            It seems to me that Anya’s been made a symbol for all that’s wrong with the show these days even though most of the blame lays at the feet of the producers and judges.

    • Lori

      Screencaps, please please please.

    • Anonymous

      In fact ALL of you will be creating collections.

    • Anonymous

      bye bye Kimberly   

      Shoulda cried.

    • Joe J

      Oh, cut the shit, Klum.  Even people who DON’T watch this show know all these designers showed at Fashion Week.  

    • Anonymous

      Anya and Viktor – in.
      Blenley, Miss Clinique Counter- death match
      Kinberly – auf.

    • Anonymous

      God I hate this show. Bye bye Kimberly. You are the best, but the judges are trying to find any way they can to get rid of you, while justifying all over themselves why they would keep tacky Josh around. Why do we put ourselves through this every year?

    • Anonymous

      Oh for Christ’s sake, crown Anya now and STFU!!!!! and she needs to give Bert half for sewing the best shit she put out all season!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

         just like the OTHER 4 should give credit to those that helped them?

        do you honestly think any of them would have credited their partners had they been praised?

        • Anonymous

          No because the rest of them know how to fucking SEW!!!!

    • Anonymous

      LOL since they are not the best designers the series has ever had, let’s just send all of them to fashion week and maybe, just maybe, we will get one decent outfit!

    • Carla Williams

      They also just laughed at Laura’s gown, which they praised on the runway. As many others have already said, if it weren’t for this blog, I couldn’t sit through this show.

      One thing for next season? Let the designers design clothes and sew. Why can’t they simply compete based on challenges that aren’t absurd?

      • Anonymous

        Absurd challenges are part of the show.  But they have to be absurd in the right way.  Make a dress out of car parts–good.  Make a 6-piece collection in 15 minutes with a budget of 3 dollars–bad.

    • Anonymous

      You know, the judges are talking me into *gulp* Josh instead of Laura- you could often restyle his stuff and find the occasional interesting piece among the penchant for OTT ooo shiny, whereas Laura’s moments of inspiration are a little more boring.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, that outfit with the Wonder Woman t-shirt underneath some clunky, bunchy jacket and a skirt made for a pregnant girl competing in a jitterbug contest in 1945? There is nothing there you can take anywhere except a rummage sale.

    • Lisa

      SO SICK OF ANYA.  I mean, the automatic masturbatory mode the judges go into over her is gross.  They may as well just collectively  take off their underpants when she and her one-note clothes hit the runway.  

      Of course, I do have to give her credit for one thing – she’s dumb like a fox.  She chose BERT, because why?  *BECAUSE BERT CAN SEW AND CONSTRUCT CLOTHES BEAUTIFULLY*.  Does anyone think Little Miss “I Just Learned To Sew” could have constructed three garments in two days without the help of the undisputed king of construction in her corner?

      • Anonymous

        Yes, I think she could have. But just barely, lol.

    • Anonymous

      Anya is in (Big Duh!), Viktor is in, Josh in, Kimmy to battle her way in, Barbie auf’d

    • Joe J

      Calling it – next designer called is out.  Final two have to compete against each other.

    • Anonymous

      Say, Thank you, Bert, Anya

      • Anonymous

        she owes him more than that!     but fact is she could have put her models in filthy paint tarps and secured them with duck tape and Nina, Heidi and MK would have had orgasms and sent her to Fashion Week.

    • Anonymous

      WOW. Josh is in. Just…wow.

      • margaret meyers

        unbelievable

    • Anonymous

      Wow, delusion much, Josh?

      • Now I am The Bee

        I just can’t wait for him to write his book!  Hahahahahahaha……oh my Lord. 

        • Anonymous

          So that people can research him for him after he’s dead – what the hell was that?!

          • Anonymous

            He needs rethink his impulse to speak, like, at all.

    • Anonymous

      F-ing Josh.

      • Anonymous

        My thoughts exactly.

    • Joe J

      Well, as long as Kimberly is still here, I’ll still watch.  

    • Anonymous

      KIMBERLY! GIRL YOU ARE MY FAVORITE FOREVER!

    • Anonymous

      WOW

      I did not see that coming.

    • Anonymous

      Years after you’re gone?? Try 10 minutes after this show is over no one will remember your name.

      –GothamTomato

      • margaret meyers

        The whole room snorted at that one.   History?  People researching you?  Josh is always good for a laugh.  Just let him talk and you’ll be slapping your knees (or him) in no time.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Wait, what? How did I miss that?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        Somebody really thinks highly of himself doesn’t he. I get this picture in my head of people in the distant future researching the beginning of the end of civilization and his name comes up. 

        • Anonymous

          That was a fall-off-the-sectional moment for me.  The first image that popped into my head when he began going on about his book and his role in civilization was a team of 19th century British archeologists unearthing Egyptian tombs and finding…Oh, dear GOD!…Josh and some of his more famous designs, including the hideous plaid pants. More terrifying than the Mummy’s Curse!

          What a complete and utter dipshit he is.  Certifiable.

    • Anonymous

      Told Ya!!

      • Anonymous

        Sorry, that was so very 10 year old of me ( and a lot of drinkypoo)! Like Josh said, I’m sorry. Did you smell the Sincerity?…me neither.

    • Anonymous

      Well that was a surprise. I’m happy for Kimberly.

    • Anonymous

      Anya had to put her hand over her mouth to hide her dismay.  lol

    • Anonymous

      Wow. I thought Laura had one of the best collections. Possibly THE best collection. Did not see that coming.

    • MilaXX

      BTW LOVE Anya’s dress tonight.

    • Anonymous

      Is there going to be a reunion for this season?

    • Anonymous

      Laura did make a good collection though.   So much different than what she showed during the show.

    • Anonymous

      oh… the fun starts now…. with uncle Nick! 

    • Anonymous

      Why is it final four instead of final three?  Did they have an actual reason or just for the hell of it?

      • Now I am The Bee

        I’ll bet they make Josh and Kimberly compete for the third spot on the runway.  They’ve done that for 4-5 years now–since Chris March and Rami wnet head to head for the 3rd spot. 

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, but usually they tell them before they all go home to work on their collections who is going to be competing for the 3rd spot so it’s just kind of weird this season. Or maybe it’s all just going to be part of the manufactured drama. They all come back to NY for Fashion Week and they’ll be like, JUST KIDDING, none of you are guaranteed a spot!

          Granted, everything is weird this season so I guess it’s to be expected.

          • Cautiously Pessimistic

            I think last season all four competed for the three finalist spots, didn’t they?  I remember that some people were calling shenanigans when Michael won the last proper challenge but was booted from competition before the actual runway show.

      • Eclectic Mayhem

        The producers – even back in the days of the Magical Elves – are under the belief that we – the viewing public – NEED to see an elimination in every episode.

        Personally I think they are wrong.  Generally speaking I’d be happy to see more of their process and more of Tim with the designers during the home visits.

        This season?  Ugh.  I don’t really want to see Tim with any of these people. 

    • Anonymous

      This After The Runway looks like it’s going to be good….

    • Anonymous

      Now for the real horrible drama of after the runway.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

      I’m glad Laura thanked Tim.

    • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

      I really need to find someone play some BDSM games with and soon otherwise my masochistic desires get played out by watching this after the runway crap. Ugh.

    • Anonymous

      So, who is this hostess with the low class British accent? What does she have to do with the show again?

      • Anonymous

        Some nobody from “MaryClare” magazine

    • Joe J

      Wow, Kimberly is a bit prickly tonight.  Laura’s out and she is FAR from the only designer who talks shit about everyone, so unclench.

      • Carla Williams

         Wull, to be fair, Laura did just sit there and say she should have gone home–she didn’t have to name names. Team Kimberly (even if there’s no hope)!

      • Anonymous

        I know, it’s like, “Kimberly, welcome to Project Runway! Ever heard of it?”

      • Anonymous

        But Kimberly is just now finding out along with viewers that “The Girl Pact” only existed in her mind after a certain point. I think she feels betrayed. 

        Admittedly, she should have known not to trust any of them. This was the bitchiest, most mean spirited cast EVER. I would have liked to have taken Bert and Viktor and put them in the Seth Aaron season. 

    • Nicole Howard

      I am so bummed about this show.  I think that Laura showed some cool stuff today. And to be honest (although I am kind of embarrassed to admit this) I like her final collection the best out of all of them.  I was really pulling for her.  I truly think that she should be going to fashion week instead of Josh, but at least she did get to show her collection! I can’t wait to hear the critiques that Josh will get about his final collection!

    • Anonymous

      Kimberly is so beautiful.  

      “Clearly quite sensitive.”   

      Ohmygod.  Laura was bitching all the time about others.

    • Deborah Bonner

      Am so fed up with the ugly clothes this season. I agree with you all that the show needs to choose people with sewing and design skills next time. I hate it that all Anya’s clothes looked like she took a sheet and draped it and pinned it in place.  She could probably do wonderfully if she had more construction skills but this is just not good enough for me. Not looking forward to the finale …

    • Anonymous

      Laura’s hair looks like a bad wig, Kim Zolniak-style.

      • Anonymous

        Wow, and now Becky’s hair?! This is awful!

      • Anonymous

        I know!   I’m fixated on her hair.   It’s so ugly.  How does she do that to it?

        • Anonymous

          Industrial strength chemicals. And possibly a deep fryer.

          • Anonymous

            Laura’s hair: Paula Deen approved!

            • Anonymous

              Only if she uses butter (or buttah)

      • Now I am The Bee

        Hey Toni Baloney–they used to call me that, too, in school.  My name’s Antonija aka Toni.  Toni Baloney loves Eddie Spaghetti.  Ahhh those were the days… 

        • Anonymous

          That’s so funny: I’m Antonia, aka Toni. Hi, name (and nickname) friend!

    • Anonymous

      Fashion Design.

    • Anonymous

      One of the things that bugs about Anya is that her two best friends on the show are Laura and Josh.

      • Lisa

        I think it says a lot about her character.  And that’s not complement. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

        Josh is also Victor’s friend. Laura got along very well with Kimberly.

        Seriously, having asshole friends doesn’t make you one too.

        • Anonymous

          I’ve found that birds of a feather do flock together.  There are exceptions, but people’s associations are clues to their characters.    Yes, Josh is Victor’s friend, but I was talking about Anya.   Viktor’s character is pretty much an open book to me.  

    • Anonymous

      What is Viktor wearing? Doilies?

      • Anonymous

        I try never to look at what Viktor is wearing.

      • Anonymous

        The tassles! He looks like a confused bullfighter.

        • Anonymous

          LMAO!  “Confused bullfighter” indeed.  Thanks for my first really good laugh of the night! :)

    • Joe J

      Josh. HATE. RAGE. SURGING.

    • Anonymous

      he is something else…… like disgusting…. (thanks for replaying the bit with Becky)….. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        I had an anxiety attack watching that montage from hell. He makes me sick. Knowing that he’s insecure doesn’t make ME feel any better. He got off too easy!!

    • Lisa

      YEAH BECKY!!!  Serve that bitch up!

    • Anonymous

      Josh you are a B**CH plain and simple!! Becky dear, you are right on the money regarding karma!

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Oh great. Now I have to go watch it.

        • Anonymous

          Oh, Hon No,no,no. OK, then close the curtains/sheds/blinds,lock the door (home or office), take phone off hook, turn off cell, cancel appointments, pour glass of wine or something, I don’t care what time it is that you watch this shissshh, because this is embarrassing to the brand that PR used to be and that deserves a very stiff drink!

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            Yikes. That bad? Maybe I won’t watch it. After last week, I’m not sure I have the stomach, or the alcohol, for it anyway.

            • Anonymous

              Let me put it this way, tomorrow I’m gonna be nursing a hellva hang-over. Yes, it took that much liquid, “you can watch this sheeesh”, to view this mess. And , I’m only doing it at this point because, I’m not a quitter(??). So, save yourself ! Or, power it out with the rest of us sad sacks!

    • Anonymous

      Tomorrow, I am going to drape one of my screen windows over me, tie it with a sash, and call it a gown. Just like Josh.

      I am truly surprised that Kimberly, whose designs I find boring and not too tasteful was added as a fourth. 

    • Anonymous

      Does anyone else get the distinct impression from what is brought up on these after-shows the producers read this blog? I don’t think it’s a coinky-dink they bring in two of the most popular past designers to be on the show. Or are Nick and Laura both on the Lifetime site?

      I’m rambling. I think it’s time to quit drinking.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i’m pretty sure they both write PR blogs for lifetime.

        • Anonymous

          Yep. Nick also does blogs on his personal site/blogspot.

    • Anonymous

      Josh, shut up!

    • MilaXX

      Becky you are way too nice. I’d still be telling him to kiss my  butt.

      • Anonymous

        Becky’s too passive aggressive.  She was giving these little veiled messages.  

    • Anonymous

      Of course, Josh, you want to pretend that it didn’t happen.  All bullies do that.

      • Anonymous

        Right?  I don’t think he actually offered an apology.

        EDIT: Oh, NOW he apologizes. After first making a stink about how he was perceived. Always all about him.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          Because it IS our fault for the way we percieve him right? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CJ2DQZARBUBUUGHOQAHU4JVULI Heather

      I think I’ve become immune to the bullshit, the judging didn’t even bother me. 

      I don’t get how a draped black sheet is fashion forward, but that’s me I think :)

      • Anonymous

        Undoubtedly Target will sell out of black sheets tomorrow.  
        /sarcasm

    • Anonymous

      Josh wants to put it (his nastiness, ie; bad PR) in a box and make it disappear — BUT HE DIDN’T APOLOGIZE!!! Natch.

      –GothamTomato

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        But he REALLY feels bad!! Oh Becky how could you be so mean by showing how bad you feel? I mean my heart was beating really fast when I had to watch myself acting like an ass!!! MEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!

        Is it just me, or did he have an extra layer of yuck on his face? He seemed highly bronzed.

        • http://naturallyeducational.com/ CandaceApril

          This is like my five year old (the tantrums, not the make-up).  I point out she’s done something irresponsible and she tells me I am mean for making her feel bad.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

            Except with your five year old she’ll grow out of it. 

          • Anonymous

            Possibly Josh was not raised right.

    • Anonymous

      3-D. NO, no no… a laugh track. NO, 3-D. Ah, fuck it. 

    • Anonymous

      I feel bad for Kimberly. She thought those two bitches were her friends.

    • Anonymous

      Gawd, I hate Anya’s haircut. She looks like she just had brain surgery.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        it’s all of a piece w/ her name, or her company’s name, or whatever it is–anya de rogue–which, oh bite me, just makes me wanna upchuck.

        • Anonymous

          The better to film those all important profile shots without all the hair getting in the way.

      • Anonymous

        I love her haircut, lol. It’s rather unique looking. 

        • Anonymous

          Her hair isn’t unique – it’s an 80′s style (Bow Wow Wow – anyone remember?)  She is really good at draping, I’ll grant her that.  And given the competition this season – her looks are pretty.  But, I wouldn’t bet on her against anyone from season 1 – 4.  

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sharon-Miles/100001870246509 Sharon Miles

          There is nothing unique about Anya’s hair.  P Diddy’s girlfriend Cassie has been rocking this hairstyle for about five years.  One more example of Anya being all “smoke” and “mirrors”.  Man that girl is such a fraud.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t know, I’d never seen it before. And it looks good on her. Usually, the partially shaved head looks terrible on anyone, but it works for Anya. Why is this one more example of her being all ‘smoke and mirrors’? Because she has a hairstyle that someone else has as well? Please…

    • Anonymous

      Anya is still the only one who appears happy.

      • Anonymous

        Probably because the producers have already told her she’s won.

        • Anonymous

          This was filmed a few weeks after the winner was chosen, which probably was not a good idea. Anya always looks happy though so… eh… I think Viktor could’ve won though.

    • Jean Albus

      The judges need to cut the crap. 

    • http://twitter.com/IvyTurnstyles Cyd Paiva

      I don’t know if anything will get through to these people. They seem so blissfully ignorant of the fact that their once-great show now SUCKS. But I’d say the one thing they need to do is get rid of all the judges (including Heidi!) and start from scratch. Michael and Nina seem to suffered a disconnect from reality which is not good for a REALITY show and Heidi just seems clueless to me.

    • Anonymous

      Its all about me, I’ve had it so hard, no one understands me. Other people are so sensitive and just don’t get how hard it is to be me.

      Becky accepted your apology so you’d shut up.

    • Anonymous

      Ugh. I sat through this whole thing for Nick and he’s only going to be on a few minutes? And Josh, I think everyone already knows you are really, really insecure.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1386785487 Lee Graham

      I wish Becky would have kicked him in the balls.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        Ah, yes that would have been choice. She had really big shoes on too. 

    • Anonymous

      I think what hurt Kimbrely is that she thought she was part of a group and they were all friends, and then she found out that really only Anya and Laura were friends — they were just being friendly toward her.  There’s a difference.   I’ve been in that position before.  Not really a good feeling.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I would never be good at that part of PR — you aren’t my FRIEND unless I’ve known you for a really long time and exchanged low level secrets with you, establishing trust and boundaries.  Until then you are my friendly acquaintance. 

        Which explains why I have 2 friends…(though I have 2 sisters-in-law that would be friends if they hadn’t been upgraded to family).  Interestingly enough, both of them say the same thing.  Apparently we all have trust issues:)

      • Anonymous

        I agree and I think she is actually right. Kimberly was DEAD ON when she called Laura out for being a phony b*tch. It WAS Laura and Anya who ganged up on Becky in the lounge that time. And they only had a pact until the two Mean Girls decided to just look out for each other. 

      • Anonymous

        Anya and Laura weren’t really friends, either. 

      • Anonymous

        Seemed to me that the girls had a pact to pick each other when the time came. Kim stuck to it even though Anya already picked the boys. Laura still picked Anya, but screwed Kimberly even though Kim picked her.

        I don’t know why the designers get so worked up about it , because the judges do not take it into consideration AT ALL. It is strictly to cause drama amongst the designers. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jin-Ong/584903214 Jin Ong

      More time for the finalists for their finale collections. And less decoys.

    • Anonymous

      I wasn’t the least bit surprised by the outcome tonight. Anya wins. but the othershe did make it easy for her. I actually thought Anya did have the second best collection to Viktor. I thought Kim and Laura would be fighting for the final spot and Josh would go home.
      I did think it extremely odd that all four designers picked Anya to show at fashion week, even though they had all cast shade on her ability just hours beforehand.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        In a cynical world someone would say they wanted her there to lessen the competition. Or maybe in a round about way, to suck up to the judges. 

        • Anonymous

          However, by the way the judging has gone so far, you would think that they would realize with Anya in the finals the best they would get is 2nd place.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

            You would think. But then you probably don’t have an ego the size of Wyoming giving you an overinflated opinion of your ability to sew trumping her (Anya’s) ability to schmooze.

    • Anonymous

      Nick looks so pretty!

    • Anonymous

      OMG! I can’t believe what Uncle Nick is asking! Too funny!

    • Anonymous

      Anya is usually well dressed, but that jacket or vest or whatever looks moth eaten.  

      In deference to Olivier, British bra sizes don’t do the double letters.  It’s just A B C D E — or at least it is for a lot of the brands I’ve looked at

    • Anonymous

      I love Uncle Nick!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

      Anya probably just let it slip that she won the whole shebang. Like anybody’s surprised.

      • Anonymous

        I can’t watch the show. What, exactly, did she say?

        • Anonymous

          I thought that, too. She was talking about how she just learned to sew and yet ended up winning..pause..a lot of those challenges. I thought I heard a little pause as she thought quickly to add ‘those challenges.’

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

          Nick was questioning Anya about how viewers were wondering if she’s lied about her 4-month sewing experience.

          Anya replied with something to the effect of, “Well I was always pressed for time and I was always last fitting my models, so that’s probably why everyone else was so surprised that I won……. some of the challenges.”

          • Anonymous

             I personally don’t think it matters one way or the other  how long she has been sewing, she’s not very skilled at it that is for sure. But, she didn’t answer Nick’s question.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor did not look happy…. did he just lose the whole thing? suspicious….. 

    • Anonymous

      Change the channel!!!  Quick!!

    • Anonymous

      I can’t wait for this season to be over.  It’s like a bad relationship. 

    • Anonymous

      Nick is such a class act compared to the current gang.

      • Anonymous

        And a way better designer than any of them.

        • Anonymous

          Plus he had to put up with Santino for a whole season!  

    • Anonymous

      We will all be shocked if Anya doesn’t win.

      I wonder how the judges will react to her “resort” collection.

      Anyway, the preview is a total fake-out.

    • Anonymous

      I cannot believe that three sleeveless dresses with zero tailoring = variety. Yet the judges slammed Kimberly for not mixing it up with the f*cking pants.

      • Anonymous

        That made me laugh.

        Well, Anya’s looks were very dramatic and different.   Girl has taste.

        But every time I say something about her I feel like I’m making a porn double entendre.

        • http://www.facebook.com/eujoyuen Eugenia Joyuen

          Weeeeell, the *porn double entendre* is the default after the sex tape scandal… but we’re not for that, do we?

        • Anonymous

          The only true variety in Anya’s looks was in the color. Black, white, rust.

      • Anonymous

        I thought it was more that she didn’t play up to her strengths. She’s amazing at pants, so why didn’t she make pants? 

    • Anonymous

      Really sad mini-collections.  Go, Viktor!  The show feels bloated with BS at 90 minutes.  Not enough time watching the kids actually at work, ridiculous and impossible challenges (ANTM), not enough opportunity to really see the finished products on the runway, and too little time devoted to what the judges have to say.  Have to wonder if young designers with an eye to really making a name for themselves have just decided that the show is poison and a career killer.  Feels like with few exceptions, the last two or three years have not been kind in terms of contestants. 

      In happier news, Josh was LOL ridiculous tonight on both shows.  Anya’s haircut is starting to make me feel slightly ill, and it was wonderful to see Nick V again.  He handled himself beautifully.  Sad to think that he was number 5 on Season 2 and that the utterly untalented Laura took that spot many seasons later.  Kind of says it all.

    • MilaXX

      I wish someone would tell Becky that streak of blue is not edgy, it’s aging and the way she styled it tonight added a good 10 years.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, I cannot wait until those cotton candy Kool-Aid colors go out of style!  I cringe for everyone I see it on.  Laura’s hair extensions weren’t doing her any favors, either.

        • MilaXX

          I don’t mind wacky hair color, but jeep in mind who you are and how you look. I wish I could give Becky a makeover because I think she’s trying for edgy and really just fulfilling the dowdy moniker.

          • Anonymous

            ,,, she’s trying for edgy   Unfortunately she ended up looking like the Cookie Monster’s mom.

    • Anonymous

      The ONE thing the show could do to get back in my good graces: It could try casting for actual design ability instead of phony, overhyped drama, but that ain’t gonna happen.

    • Anonymous

      magical elves.

    • Leonardo Alves

      More design, less drama!

    • Anonymous

      Oh, look. The producers decided Anya needed someone to help her sew.

      • Anonymous

        EVERYONE got help. Ugh…. I am hating the “Everything’s manipulated to help Anya!” which clearly isn’t the case. Whenever they have mini-collection challenges, the designers NEVER do them alone. Also, I do think that the “extra look for fifty dollars” thing was odd BUT I doubt many of the outfits that were being made at the time were able to be produced at the price point that Piperlime was going to sell them at hence a last minute second look. 

        Anya has talent and I swear people don’t want to recognize that just because the judges are crazy about her which isn’t her fault.

        • Anonymous

          Not everyone thinks shapeless bath towel dresses look like talent.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry that you feel that way.

    • Anonymous

      One thing: ONLY forward people who deserve it. STOP letting the drama queens pass because they make good television.

      • Anonymous

        I knew they’d keep Clinique Counter around until the absolute last possible moment which will be the final showdown before wherever the hell they shot the final shows.  Both he and Anya are total pawns in this one…I’m also betting Piperlime has the final say as they need to be able to crank out the winners stuff cheaply which immediately rules out everyone but Anya.

    • Anonymous

      Oh, look. The producers decided Anya needs someone to help her sew.

    • Anonymous

      The MINUTE I knew they got assistants it truly felt like it was so someone was there to help Anya. I wish they had kept assistants out of it. I think that would have made for a MUCH BETTER final challenge. 

      • MilaXX

        They do this every year.  It’s just these designers don;t seem to learn and none of them wanted to work with Bert, which turned into a benefit for Anya.

      • Anonymous

        I have to say this had nothing to do with Anya, but they got help because they were three look mini collections. They’ve had the designers do two pieces in two days before, but never three -on their own- IIRC.

        • Anonymous

          No, but you can’t deny that she benefitted the most from the expertise of the help. And Bert was showing her how to create her garments, teaching her about the different ways to put something together. Yes, Anya has interesting ideas as a designer, and yes, this is Project Runway, but in most previous seasons, ability to sew and construct a garment were important as well as the vision.  Heck, in the earlier seasons, Nina and Michael would go ballistic on someone for one or two loose threads hanging from their outfits.

    • Anonymous

      Challenges that, even if they’re wacky, showcase fashion and not costumes or the social disorders of the contestants. Extended judging comments.

    • Anonymous

      Auf Josh this episode (unless by some miracle he doesn’t deserve it), and give an internally consistent set of critiques.  

      Damnit, that was two.  I tried.  I really did.  

    • Anonymous

      The reality is, folks, that the aufed designers have ALWAYS been brought back at this stage to provide extra help;. Conspiracy theorists much?

      • Anonymous

        Exactly. It sucks that someone like Anya has to get such a bad rap simply because the judges respond well to her.

        • Anonymous

          I think there is a general expectation that the judges will be fair and even handed. By all appearances, Anya was judged on a different curve than the other designers. The anger should rightly be directed at the judges, but unfortunately it is misdirected at the person who has (IMHO) unfairly benefited, Anya. 

      • Anonymous

        In the past though the helpers got the basic work and the designers did the detail work, while with Anya she was getting sewing tips from Bert rather then instructing Bert on how to do her design. This is what is annoying. In all past seasons, construction was very important, being able to sew your garments means you understand what can and can’t work.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      Was everyone as shocked as I was that Anya was a favorite of Heidi’s from the beginning? OMG! 

      • Anonymous

        Heh. Well, no one wanted Anya to be on the show because of her lack of experience, but Heidi was keen on letting her in just to see how she’d do… and look where she is now! 

        • Anonymous

          Oh, bless your heart!  Do you really believe that Heidi wanted to let Anya participate “just to see how she’d do?”  Heidi is a producer.  What she was salivating over was having a pageant-bot with a sex tape on the show.  To go with Heidi’s own naked photo ad for the show. In the ongoing effort to grovel for the gigantic and lucrative “Jersey Shore” demographic.

      • Anonymous

        I wasn’t.  Did you watch the very first episode, when they immediately eliminated four designers?  A couple of the audition judges, including Tim, were highly dubious about accepting someone who had just learned to sew, but Heidi fought tooth and nail to keep her.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        Hello? I was being sarcastic.

    • Anonymous

      I dont think there is anything they can do at this point to win me back for next season.  I swore off PR after last season, but let my daughter talk me into watching again with her.  Love the bonding time with my daughter, but we can have more fun with Fashion Hunters and Mad Fashion.  The only things I like about PR any more are TLo (whom I’ll read anyway) and Tim Gunn, (whom I will miss).

      • Anonymous

        Are you going to try to at least watch All-Stars?

    • Dan Jednorozec

      Someone tell me Anya’s first look isn’t a mullet dress, business in front party in the back.

    • MilaXX

      I think Zoe Saldana’s red Michael Kors look with a matching red lip wins this weeks fashion face off.

    • Anonymous

      I am sad that PR: Allstars was pushed back to 2012. :(

    • http://twitter.com/centerstage01 Britt Graves

      I absolutely hate this After The Runway show.  It’s thirty minutes of whining and trying to excuse everyone’s bad behavior, and ‘how can we stir up even more sh**?”.  Egg it on if there’s not enough happening.  I’m not going to say I’m quitting PR yet, but this emphasis on personality over performance is SO LAME.  I don’t watch the Real Housewives or Jersey Shore or any of the other innumerable crap reality shows.  I watch PR and Top Chef and So You Think You Can Dance because I want to see truly talented people in their optimal environment!  If cat fights are all Lifetime are interested in, I’ll take this show off the DVR schedule.  I have better things to watch.

      • http://profiles.google.com/grandiva1968 e jerry powell

        BLAME JON MURRAY.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017585103 Kanani Fong

        It’s crap. I sure hope each person leaves that little show with at least 2k in their pocket.

    • http://profiles.google.com/grandiva1968 e jerry powell

      Umm, they need to anesthetize Jon Murray. Like, permanently.  That would probably alleviate some of the Real-World-ness of the show.  Y’know, cut down on the “conflict focus.”

    • http://twitter.com/LAMusing LAMusing

      Wow.  That overall sucked. 

      Okay – I’m in the minority I guess, but I really liked Anya’s 3 pieces.  I thought hers were the most collection like and had modern but clean lines.  Was a nice shift from her patterns and flowy stuff. I’d wear any of them.  Viktor’s were meh, but I get that they are sellable.  Also they take into consideration what they’ve done in the past, and Viktor deserves to be there.  Josh’s pieces?  HATED THEM! The white dress was the least offensive.  The silver toga over a leotard was absurd, ugly, poorly made (what little sewing there was) and cheap looking. Then there was that HORRIBLE third outfit.  I can’t even find the words. How the h*ll is he in the finals?  Honestly, it’s not just because of his hateful personality – his designs are awful.  Lots of ideas and all of them bad. And that bit about the book that will be written about him was so out of touch with any known reality I was gobsmacked.  The other two were a mixed bag.  Neither was terribly impressive so I frankly didn’t care much which stayed.  I thought both of them have been solidly middle of the pack contenders since the beginning.

      Can’t watch that awful post show snipe fest. Nasty.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017585103 Kanani Fong

        I liked Anya’s pieces but they were largely made and influenced by Bert.

        • margaret meyers

          The finished garments were very Bert:  narrow profiles, solid colors, supple fabrics, elegant and simple.

      • Anonymous

        You took the words right out of my mouth.

    • http://twitter.com/ShelfAfterlife Shelf Afterlife

      I haven’t watched it yet because “Grey’s Anatomy” takes presidence over PR these days, so I’ll tivo the 1 am showing.  If we’ve already been getting crap, and this episode yields more crap…well I guess the models will be wearing actual crap.  Can’t wait!

    • Anonymous

      They just need to scrap the whole thing. None of them are into it anymore; they’re all going through the motions. The challenges are terrible, the clothes are terrible, the judging is terrible. It’s not the drama that’s killing the show, it’s the manipulation and the unoriginality.

      Too bad the show is taped and no one can ask Heidi about her hubby’s little trip to Chechnya. Might get some sparks. These people are all, of course, despicable.

    • http://www.fatladysings.us/ TFLS

      It was nice to see Bert again.  Love how he didn’t get in Anya’s way – just did his stitch magic.  I really liked Anya’s collection too – her and Viktor both.  They stood head and shoulders above everyone else there.  And Josh made top three????  Really?????

      Lord.

      • http://profiles.google.com/grandiva1968 e jerry powell

        Top four.

        • http://www.fatladysings.us/ TFLS

          I meant he was third one picked.  He may not make the final three – but the judges obviously felt his collection was third best overall. 

          • margaret meyers

            It was more like the judges held-out that Josh was capable of good garments.  His Fashion Week show was awful, so their gamble didn’t pay off.

            • http://www.fatladysings.us/ TFLS

              They were awful.  God-awful.  So I’m guessing he doesn’t make the final cut.  If he does, and that was his idea of a final runway show……  Bad taste doesn’t even come close to describing it.  I must say I did like that little white dress that was part of his mini collection (very commercial) – but that was kind of an anomaly as far as his design aesthetic.  It’s not just his personality that’s turned me off all season.  I don’t have a positive reaction to his clothes.  And that final collection really hit me as a slap in the face to PR – a giant FU in a way.  I can’t believe he was in any way serious.  My assumption was he didn’t make the finale.  If he does, and that’s what he submitted…..Wow. 

    • Robert Wilson

      Honest feedback. PRwy is supposed to put talent into a pressure cooker of producing work quickly combined with professional feedback. When the judges and Tim offer comments, it really illuminates the creative process and is what makes the program worthwhile. The challenges were supposed to encourage the designers to stretch and overcome their weaknesses with creativity. Players with poor construction skills or a limited design range were eliminated early, rather than kept on for dramatic reasons. I’m interested in the design process, how a designer expresses their taste and vision while still conforming to the challenge. Or how a judge spots a lack of taste and then expresses how its absence has caused the problem. But now, I wonder how Tim feels about being encouraged to push the conflict, to hold back on feedback that would actually help a designer back onto the right track, and to sell obvious interventions by the producers to steer the outcome. If I just want to watch women judging other women, I’d watch Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. At least on that show, the weak and unprepared are kicked off quickly.

      • yuju ti

        I guess Tim just gave up and roll with the producer. They must have given Tim a BIG raise to make him agree to be a puppet/mascot of the show.

        • Anonymous

          There is another possibility, that the producers feel Tim’s interactions with the designers are “irrelevant” to the drama and have simply edited them out the episodes. 

          • Anonymous

            That was my idea.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Oh my god, if that’s the case, then Bunim/Murray’s Evil Emipre really doesn’t know anything about the show, isn’t interested in learning.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s black dress looked like it was an updated mumu, plenty of room for the belly to hang out, damn Rachel Zoe would have loved that during her final trimester, very “snake that swallowed a basketball”. The rust colored mess looked like sweat pants and a shirt created out of an old belt and a 70′s poly sheet set, and the white dress looked as Zoe said like a condom. Winner winner chicken dinner!

    • http://www.facebook.com/eujoyuen Eugenia Joyuen

      Now that the outcomes are like this… My preferences for the winning (based on the collections) are like this:

      1. Viktor
      2. Anya
      3. Kimberly
      4. Josh

      Now, there’s about this thing with Josh and Kimberly: Josh lacks of fabric taste and is tacky as hell (but the last pieces look pausible at least), while Kimberly feels a little conventional. Which one wins for 3rd place? Dunno…

      About the winning: Viktor looks more original and edgy, while Anya has more trends going on and has lots of catchy and fresh colors. With the actual judging, I don’t know either of them, but those two are my final 2 here.

      About Laura losing and delivering a great collection… Yeah, I’m disapointed too because I bet her for the win :S. Thing is that it was nice and the jewelry was beautiful, but the last pieces were too much of greek goddess. Maybe that was the inspiration, but it’s still too literal.

      I’ll watch the episode tomorrow to understand the angrish from tonight.

    • Anonymous

      In any other season, Anya’s inability to make sleeves and pants would’ve been noticed several challenges back.  However, this year the lack of stellar designs by the other competitors makes her stuff look amazing in contrast.  There’s no one else, besides Viktor maybe (and he’s hit and miss) that’s providing any kind of wow factor.  So she has skated by with a nearly sleeveless output.  I like what Anya produces.  I think she’s got a terrific visual eye.  She was smart enough to know that her skills might betray her so she focused on bringing interest into her entries.  That makes her a smart competitor.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017585103 Kanani Fong


      Question of the Week: What is the ONE thing the show needs to do to get back in your good graces for Season 10?

      A:  Fun, talented people. There hasn’t been a fun, humorous bunch who made us laugh for a very long time.

      • Anonymous

        Don’t know if it’s THE one thing, but you’re so right.  Recent seasons have been more about flinching and cringing than enjoying the designers.

        • Anonymous

          When your goal in casting is to create the kind of insane drama that occurs on the dumbest, lowest-level “reality” shows, you’re going to end up with narcissists, sociopaths, and other seriously not-fun kinds of people. If you want exuberance and joy and humor, you cast artists.

    • http://twitter.com/eddiecheddar Liz D

      Stop eliminating designers because they aren’t RTW-friendly or don’t make a woman’s body look “good” based on arbitrary of-the-moment gender norms. Julie showed promise as a DESIGNER. So did many others eliminated early.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i agree w/ you about julie & her promise & also the potential design skill of some of the early, even pre-show, eliminees. but i would bet you anything from dollars to donuts that the reason they were so heartily & easily exeunt so early on has more  to do w/ televisual garbage & scenehogging personality than anything to do w/ clothes they did or did not make.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      i’m surprised laura is not one of the finalists. it’s not that i love her final collection; i dont, i just think it’s one of the most competent. it’s very– referential, i guess. & it goes off in all kinds of somewhat incompatible directions. but anyway. i guess we’ll see it critiqued w/in the week. & it’s not–not–that i like laura. i would wanna strangle her after about, oh, seven minutes in the same airspace. i definitely think she is more delusional about her own appearance than the appearance of the clothing she designs, however– at least when she’s not on PR.

      my other comment is only:
      isnt anya’s win really bert & anya’s win? cos, while of course i didnt watch this foolishness, i have read many of the belownoted comments & seen the garments produced & never in a million years would she have come up w/ the first, white, piece– which, regardless of whatever yak was spewed is better than the others– & she would never never have come up w/ that w/o him. the black one’s a revamp of her übercrow & the red pantsuit is indefensible.

      then again, none of the judging has anything to do w/ the clothing any more, does it?

      • margaret meyers

        I thought Laura made a good showing with her Fashion Week collection — I thought it was an attractive, strong collection.  Perhaps she didn’t respond well to the time pressures and competition aspect, because her clothes on the show were bad.

        • Stefanos Mantyla

          I think she did not really know how to create design as much as she knew how to course-correct. Looking at her pre-season bio, she was a “design teacher”. You know what they say; those who can’t do teach! She could never make the best thing in any episode, but because she could course-correct, she never wound up making the worst thing in any episode until now.

          Her collection is just OK, really. She has a semi-attractive design-gimmick that permeates itself throughout the collection to unify it, and that is really it.

          • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

            but almost nobody else has even that. thats the issue.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QVNXE5PQQVTSQHG77WZA3VRL5Q Alli Lon

        Anya specifically said while referencing her inspiration and buying her fabrics at mood that she did not want to do what she normally did. She said she wanted to stay away from prints and do something different from her usual style. That was before she knew who her assistant was going to be. If you don’t like her and don’t like her design style just say so. There is no need to try to disregard her input into her work. You have no evidence that those weren’t the looks that she intended to do.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          if it didnt look as if he designed it himself, maybe.

        • Anonymous

          I suspect she knew there was going to be a partner and knew who it was going to be before they even gathered back at Parsons to get their instructions. 

    • Anonymous

      It needs to be about the design and not about the artificial drama. You put 12 people in a room and there’s going to be enough drama to go around. My sense is that they need a new production company.

    • Stefanos Mantyla

      They should watch the Finnish version and learn from them. Basically, when one talks about Muodin Huipulle, one does not feel like he/she is talking about another Project Runway, but rather, something called Muodin Huipulle. The Finns have taken the format and run with it, knowing exactly what to do with it.

      -Producers should watch Muodin Huipulle to learn HOW A REALITY SHOW IS DONE! Those responsible for Muodin Huipulle really know how to keep it classy, and it has only gotten better as a result.
      -Designers may also benefit from Muodin Huipulle, to learn how inspiration is to be taken, and how to, well, design in the first place.
      -Viewers should watch just to learn to believe again that Project Runway CAN be something with class and sophistication.

      Still there is nothing one can do about the talent pool (only determined by who applies), let’s face it, but to make a proper reality show would be a step in the right direction.

      One thing I think should be removed is the constant Top 3/Bottom 3 system. The judges try too hard to say good things about the Top and bad things about the Bottom, in a way to keep views polarized for viewers (both the knowledgeable and the unsophisticated)  to follow, and as a result are not fully honest. Just call out a certain set, whatever number, of outfits that merit attention, and critique accordingly! Not that hard! And if we get good compelling designs, then we do not need any playing to the cameras by the judges, do we?

      Judges should actually revise their whole school of thought on judging, meaning chucking that cumulative aspect of it, and keeping the apparent front-runners on their toes, busting out excellent work consistently. It also helps that the regular panel on the Finnish version is smaller (only the Nora/Jaakko duo as opposed to the Heidi/Micheal/Nina trio), so adding a guest judge or two adds greater weight to the non-cumulative party and makes the whole much less cumulative and more about “here and now”. So, unless either Heidi, Michael, or Nina drops out, and NO REPLACEMENT is involved, that part could be harder to implement. Then again, everyone knows we need a change. (Side note: I think Clinton Kelly would be a good judge, just because of his integrity. We should replace the old rusted-out Korsatron with him, and… I do not know about the rest, yet, but Kelly might be the first step to saving the situation.)

      I know, TLo, you said ONE thing, but just had to get this off my chest. I hope you understand, and that this does not bust  your bandwidth or whatever!

      • Stefanos Mantyla

        I think what I am trying to say is that the politics of it all work out just right under this system. Judging politics, contestant politics, and reality show politics. We have more of a meritocracy and less of a “DRAMAcracy”.

        I think the message that the second season of Muodin Huipulle was trying to give was a political/mechanical one. The message the first season gave us, on the other hand, was just about the design excellence that Finland had to offer. Excellent entries all around in that season (with of course some lackluster ones that warranted elimination), so it did not really matter how the politics were; the best ones were in the Final without reservation, and the best one won, simple as that.

        Where politics matter, on the other hand, Muodin Huipulle’s second season showed us how to go about it the right way!

        So in the end, if I want to say just ONE thing as you said, it would be to overhaul the politics inside and out.

        • Stefanos Mantyla

          One more thing:

          I will admit that one contestant in the second season did go much farther in the competition than expected because the judging was anti-cumulative, and she did mildly annoy some people by going so far, but you must admit, we did get a pretty amazing story arc out of her! Not naming names, though; you will have to watch it for yourself when you get the chance!

          • Anonymous

            I am intrigued, but do not speak Finnish.   Is this available with subtitles anywhere?

            • Stefanos Mantyla

              Well, we have no English-subtitled broadcast, BUT the judging sessions in the third to last and the Finale episode do take place in English, believe it or not! In those episodes, non-Finnish-speaking guest judges were involved. But fashion is a universal language anyway, so I think one can understand all the important things, like the clothes, the winner, the eliminee, and such.

              I hate to say it, but the availability of the show itself is quite scarce. Here is the link where the show is to be shown: http://www.katsomo.fi/?treeId=347. Since its content is so protected (Finnish copyright laws can be quite a pain about this.), the availability of the episodes is scarce, and there is practically no telling when they will appear for us again. Sometimes it does at a random moment appear and stay for a week, though. One just has to keep a close and patient eye on this channel. If you decide it is worth the wait, I can assure, it will be!

              Muodin Huipulle has Wikipedia pages, and it has its homepage: http://www.mtv3.fi/muodinhuipulle/, so one can learn a bit more from there.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        You deserve about a couple hundred likes for this and subsequent comments, bandwidth be damned.

    • Anonymous

      Less producer manipulation, less decoy collections, less drama, less make-a-pretty-dress challenges, less uneven inconsistent cracktastic judging, less vague design briefs (especially those that eventually translate to make something ready-to-wear), less franchises, less TimRobot and more Tim-as-he-used-to-be (where’s the Tim in Season 2 who would call out ALL the designers that the stuff they had been making is lackluster?), more talent, more varied time length of challenges, eliminate the need to crown a winner if none is actually deserving, less clueless I-would-wear-that celebrity starlets judges.

      Blah blah blah.

      • Anonymous

         I agree with everything but the make-a-pretty dress thing.  Maybe those challenges were out there, but I would have been thrilled to see something actually pretty.  They had their little twists designed to benefit a specific designer that seemed eliminate any change of making anything pretty or even interesting.  It’s a misconception that lowering the standards so the weak can play, too, only helps the weak;  as we’ve seen this year, it allowed everyone to drag their feet in a race to the bottom.

    • Anonymous

      I’m looking forward to/hoping not to be disappointed by AllStars.  The contrast between this season and what I am expecting from past designers should be marked.  Honestly, understanding that it’s like Jeopardy and much easier to come up with the answer from your couch, I know I have way better fabric taste, and understanding of how different weight fabrics work, and I could sew/pin/hot glue up some schlock that would rise above a lot of what we’ve seen this season.

      • Anonymous

        Actually the Allstars will answer the question whether is it the chef (the producers) or the ingredients (the designers) that have run recent seasons of Project Runway into the ground.  We all know the Allstars are an insanely talented bunch.

        • Anonymous

          But the producers choose the designers.  And for the past two seasons, they’ve been choosing for drama and demographic focus, not for talent.

          • Anonymous

            But I think most of these bring both talent AND drama.  Although Michael Costello, bless his heart I loved him, but I suspect he was their warm-up/practice round leading up to the creation of Anya.

    • Anonymous

      Question of the Week: What is the ONE thing the show needs to do to get back in your good graces for Season 10?

      1. A More talented group of contestants.
      2. Less Dorky old challenges.  It is ok to repate great challenges from the past seasons
      3.  Less producer manipulation of the judges

      • Anonymous

        That’s three.   ;-)

    • Anonymous

      It’s nice to know Laura wanted to show at Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week since she was 13. Mercedes only became the sponsor of Fashion Week recently, so I guess Laura can add clairvoyance to her list of talents.

    • Anonymous

      You know, I’d be happy if they’d just honestly say three (or four) designers will get to compete at Mercedes Benz Fashion Week rather than show. It seems disingenuous to phrase it as they do when we all know that half the designers get to show.

      Sorry. I’m a copyeditor, and I’m big on precise terminology.

    • Anonymous

      Make it like it used to be. That’s it. It’s not Real World, we don’t tune in for the fake drama. Simple.

      • Stefanos Mantyla

        I do not think that “making it like it used to be” will cut it. It will not get us to take the show any more seriously! Sure, Finland is known for its excellence in design, but if its Project Runway were subject to the politics we see on the American show, Finland’s Project Runway would suck just as much.

        So sure, one can call for a better talent pool, and one can reach back to the past in nostalgia, but in the end, the only way to make people take this seriously is to overhaul the politics.

        I am telling you, Muodin Huipulle HAS the answer to all of your problems!

        • Anonymous

          So where do we see this amazing Finnish answer to all that is wrong with the world? I assume you work for the show because – if we were hosting a drinking game in which every time you wrote “Muodin Huipulle” I’d be quite drunk already this morning.  Is it on You Tube?

          • Stefanos Mantyla

            Haha!

            No, I do not work for the show. If I did, I would do my part to make it as available as possible! Unfortunately, Finnish copyright laws can be such a pain, so such content is highly protected (meaning no YouTube availablity, sadly). In the message to which you replied, I said “Muodin Huipulle” only once, which means you probably looked at my posts below, where I said it more. From there you can get links. And Muodin Huipulle has a Face Book page as well, if you are interested.

            I can even post links to all the outfits from the show (the second season, at least, and some from the first), but you probably want to see the proceedings in person, and how the politics about which I have talked work out. Especially how our hostess carries out her duties! Let me tell you, by the third episode (second season, since Nora Vilva replaced season one’s Minna Cheung), I was in love. She was so amazing to look at and watch!

            A while ago, I tried to get T Lo to check it out, and maybe even write about it. I totally understand if they are busy, though. Maybe some day!

            I would so love to show it to you, and I wish I had the resources to do so. I know that anyone even slightly interested in Project Runway would have something to learn from the Finnish version, whether or not we have a language barrier (one that we see lifted in the last few episodes).

            Would you like me to post links to the photos at least, so you can see evidence that the show actually exists?

    • http://profiles.google.com/melantha.chimera Eileen Duffy

      I’m with EveEve and Gotham Tomato.  Talent is the big one (and less casting for drama), more Tim, and more letting the design shine, and less worry about DRAMA.

    • http://michjeff-quiltersparadise.blogspot.com/ Michelle Young

      It is hard to decide between casting for talent or giving more of Tim.  But in the end I vote more Tim!  

    • Anna Maria Diamanti

      Completely and utterly ridiculous. Josh’s half toga was nothing but a joke. The supposedly fabulous white dress had no design there–we’ve seen that dress with the netting up top in every color in every department store. Anya’s black dress looked like lazy maternity wear and the rust piece looks suspiciously like a cast-off from Bert’s final collection. Those judges would have gone after any other contestant with a vengeance who tried to claim they were showing “range” with those 3 pieces.

      Did anyone else want to throttle Nina after she said she could pick out discreet pieces from Josh and *make* them editorial? The very same Nina who practically clawed Heidi’s face last year for saying she could pick out pieces from Mondo’s collection and pair them with other items. Because they’re supposedly judging the work as is and should not have to re-design for the contestants. Does the woman not realize she is being recorded? Or that people watching the show have… memories?

      The one and only thing the show could do to get back in my good graces is totally blind judging. The contestants sit behind the judges so their facial expressions don’t give anything away and they listen to critiques of all the pieces as they come down the runway. Maybe after judges pick top/bottom 2 or 3 those contestants can come in and defend or explain themselves to aid the judges in picking the final winner/loser.

      • Anonymous

        I did (want to throttle Nina).  I have no idea at this point what she means by the word “editorial”.  That striped t-shirt was editorial?  Does she mean somehting I would see (and leave) in a discount bin?  Because otherwise I am clueless.

        • Anna Maria Diamanti

          Editorial used to mean it would not just photograph well but really catch your eye as you were flipping through a magazine or passing the newsstand racks. I think Nina has gotten lazy and now just uses the phrase in the same way lame guests judges say “Oh I would wear that.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QVNXE5PQQVTSQHG77WZA3VRL5Q Alli Lon

      Yes, of course those designs were “large made and influenced by Bert”. Because we know how fashion forward Bert is. I think all you need to do is review Bert’s collection and you would see that the only similarity between her looks and Bert’s style was that there was no print and the lines were clean and simple.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002673395871 Roadkill Writer’s Camp

      One thing: Blind judging, with models in random rotation. Give critiques to everyone after the winner and losers each week are selected (if not yet announced). Nothing the designers say on the runway – no poignant back story or claim of inexperience or creative impulse or work-room drama should influence the judges’ decision. The producers can milk all the sturm und drang they want, but the designs should stand or be auf’d on merit in the context of the challenge, however idiotic.   

      • Anonymous

        THAT’S a great idea!

      • Stefanos Mantyla

        We should not have to resort to blind judging if we have real judges! I am all for it if that is the best we can do, but still…

    • Anonymous

      I wonder if Tim hates what Lifetime has done to this show, he’s just a puppet, nothing he says matters at all. To see Nina gush over Josh’s 1/2 tank top toga gown withdrew all doubts that the whole show is completed rigged. When you saw Josh’s three looks lined up, two of them were godawful, Laura should be there instead of Josh or Kim. CRAZY!!

    • Anonymous

      BETTER DESIGNERS & MORE TIM! oops that’s 2 things…

    • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

      I watched this last night when I got home from work and realized sleep was the better option.  Again, I thought Victor’s was the best as did my 18 yo son.  Again, he was robbed.  I would own every piece.  I’m not even going to talk about Anya because basically it’s all been said.  I didn’t bother with the aftershow because I don’t really care to watch more bullshit drama.  I’m clearing the time slot on my dvr for something more interesting.  I don’t know if I’ll bother with another season except for perhaps AllStars, screw Project Accessory which is what, just like Project Runway?  

    • Anonymous

      Poirot on PBS held more charms last night than our little buncha designers… who won?  Don’t even care, I think it was Anya but for the life of me, I can’t remember a single thing she made…. oh yeah, a lady KKK outfit!

    • Anonymous

      Get back to designers who have talent and away from all the sturm und drang.

    • Anonymous

      I’d say that they need to do less “you have one day to do this look.” Going back to season 1, they usually had more than one day to complete a look, without any twists.  Maybe that’s why the work looks so sloppy these days?  Not enough time to do something ambitious, because they contestants all know that if they DO get two days, there will be some stupid twist?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002673395871 Roadkill Writer’s Camp

      My favorite look this episode would be Anya’s screen cap top paired with Josh’s shorts, his boots, her hair, his tight pores.   

    • Anonymous

      One thing?  Tom and Lorenzo should be added to the judging panel.  Failing that, I’d go with blind judging, but that would defeat the whole purpose of the contrived drama.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BCHAURGEOOOL46TO2XSP57MGXA Barefoot Girl

      Talented, creative, seasoned designers, please

    • Anonymous

      One thing ? STOP THE DRAMA !
      So you can give back some time to the whole conception and creation process.
      Easy.

    • Anonymous

      I  read this in the comments under TLo’s “blah, blah, blah”  blog…so, I’m totally & completely bogarting this.  But forgive me b/c  when I read this post, it was the perfect answer to this blog’s question:
       
      spiralofbees wrote :
      At the end of the finale, they better just bring out Mondo and crown him winner, since none of these people deserve to win this season.

    • Anonymous

      Cut back on the money per outfit.  If they’ve got enough money to make three outfits for each challenge and throw two away, they obviously have too much (someone said to lengthen the time they have to create, but if they’re making 2-3 outfits in that time frame, they must have plenty).  Either that, or set limits on how much fabric they can get.