PR: Weak and Weary

Posted on October 07, 2011

Ugh.Where to begin? A bird challenge at first seemed kind of arbitrary and weird, but the more we thought about it, the more we were okay with it – or would have been if they hadn’t mucked around with it so much. On the surface, it was a fine idea; designers take inspirations from nature and the animal kingdom all the time. But the second we saw Collier “Smokey Eye” Strong standing there, it all fell apart for us because this wasn’t so much a “take your inspiration from nature” challenge as it was yet another product placement challenge. Product Runway.

To make matters worse, they jerked those poor designers around so much that they should’ve included neckbraces and a year’s supply of chiropractor visits in the prize package. Teams! But against each other! One look! Two looks! PSYCHE! One look! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Show of hands: who else thought that “You only have to show one look” twist was devised at the last second to give *ahem* certain people a leg up once the producers saw how things were shaking out in the work room? There’s so many twists, team challenges, and product placement opportunities this season that we almost – ALMOST – long for the days of “Make a pretty dress.”

So congratulations once again to Anya. Your win is causing T Lo to fight this morning.

It’s like this: Tom thinks that this dress is, in many ways, very impressive coming from her. Not because she’s only been sewing for 40 minutes, but because it was far outside her comfort zone and she pulled it off rather effectively.


Lorenzo thinks Tom is nuts. He claims that the minute this walked out, with Francisco Costa sitting in on the judging panel, her win was practically guaranteed. Of course the womenswear designer for Calvin Klein would fall all over this; it’s a slightly more theatrical Calvin Klein dress. Lorenzo also thinks that “Heidi needs to get her head out of Anya’s ass.” Tom agrees, but it seems to us that all three of the judges have their heads up her ass; to the point that it’s getting a little embarrassing how much they fall all over her for completing the simplest tasks.

We’re both in agreement that the dress borders on costumey, what with the wings on the shoulders and the back of the skirt looking like tailfeathers. These were things that Laura got criticized for, after all.

To be honest, we were way more interested in her first dress, even though it was a bit more in her wheelhouse than the second one. We would have liked to have seen the finished product.

And even though we’ve joked all season about her being a dangerously manipulative beauty queen, even we were shocked when she refused to give Josh some extra fabric mere days after all her competitors rallied around her to save her ass. She can try and justify that all she wants but it made her look incredibly nasty in our eyes.

She’s going to the finals, you guys. There’s no avoiding it. The judges are in love with her and that’s all there is to that. We hate to say it, but we think she might even win the whole thing. The whole beauty queen thing combined with the calculated underdog status of not being able to sew makes her somewhat tailor-made for the Lifetime demographic.

And since she looks as much like a model as an actual model, of course they’d choose her for a makeup ad.

And it’s a sad farewell to Bert, who went home for the exact reason we feared he would: a curmudgeonly lack of flexibility.

The fact of the matter is, on Project Runway, a designer is going to have to get used to the fact that he will routinely be asked to do things he doesn’t want to do. “Old school elegance” in the Bert mold, was simply not on the menu in a “Match your dress both to a bird and to eyeshadow” challenge. The whole point here is to roll with the crazy twists and pull together something that satisfies them all while remaining true to yourself as a designer.

A near-impossible task, to be sure. But plenty of successful contestants have managed it in the past.

The idea of hiding the bright colors he detests so much is what did him in. Sending out a dingy gray gown when your inspiration was all about exuberantly bright colors was a terrible idea.

To be fair, we liked the idea of the layered skirt with the bright colors underneath it.

But the bustier, no matter how well executed it was, looked very dated.

And the overall look was drab and simply not interesting enough from a design perspective. It was simply a bad entry all around.

And to his credit, he admitted it. But we said earlier this week that his greatest strength in the competition was his ability to talk about his designs on a professional level and when he couldn’t really say anything positive about his own work, it was obvious to us that he was going. Now, the point could be made once again that the judging changes from week to week, because if you look at Bert’s work cumulatively, he’s done more to impress the judges than Laura ever has. Sometimes the judges take that into account and sometimes they pretend that they don’t. To be honest, we were a bit surprised because we assumed that the judges liked Bert’s story enough to want to see him make it to the end, but apparently they couldn’t get past the sad and dated dress he sent down that runway.

As for After the Runway, could there be a better indication of what Lifetime considers the most important thing about the show? It’s not about design anymore; it’s about interpersonal conflict. You can call it “Clearing the Air” all you want, but it really should be called “Stirring Up Shit.” Laura Bennett, God bless her, has bigger balls than we do, but we really don’t want to see an extra half-hour of arguing tacked onto the end of each episode.

Will we ever again see a Project Runway that values skill and creativity over oxygen-sucking drama vortices and beauty queens?

Nevermore, bitches.

[Photo Credit: Barbara Nitke/MyLifetime.com - Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

    • scottyf

      Dear Mr. Keeter

      That was harder than I thought it would be.

      Even though I knew it the minute you were paired with Joshua (not that I thought he would out-design you, but I know the B/M story-making structure by now), a burning started somewhere deep inside of me when Heidi said your name. I couldn’t believe I was actually tearing up over someone I didn’t even know.

      But I was.

      After my initial horror, and staving off the urge to jump on the 1 train to South Ferry; catch the boat and jump in the river somewhere between Whitehall and the St. George Terminal, I came to my senses. I knew this was coming.

      I knew there was no way your quiet, yet passionate and sleek, timeless design sensibility would win. I realized (especially after seeing you on the excrescence passing as entertainment after-show, looking wonderfully refreshed) that you were tired. You had come there with a job to do, and you had done it.

      And it is because of that, that I am truly grateful.

      I’m grateful that I got to be your virtual boyfriend. Unlike Laura Bennett, I didn’t marry and divorce you several times. I saw who you were from the beginning and decided there was a wonderful man that I would be happy to support at all times–warts and all.

      I’m grateful the PR audience got to see that creativity doesn’t stop at 40. They saw that a mature person could compete with young people–sometimes leading, sometimes gracefully bowing to their aesthetic.

      Sometimes being a complete bitch. But we won’t go there.

      I’m grateful that I’ve got my Thursdays back. I can catch up on football, and Grey’s Anatomy. Sure, I’ll check in to PR from time for the remainder of the season to see how this phenomenon–which I now call “The Canonization of Anya”–plays out. But I’m no longer married to a season that, except for you, I found at best only mildly entertaining.

      But mostly, I’m grateful that you showed me it is never too late to return to a dream. THAT is what resonated with me most about your story. In addition to being beautiful outside, that beautiful strength which allowed you to weather the incredibly harsh storms of life, and still find a way to artfully move forward with hope and imagination.

      I don’t know if we’ll ever meet in the real world. But in the virtual one, you will always have my utmost admiration and respect.

      And, a little bit of my heart.

      It has been this Middle Aged Queen’s honor to be there for you.

      Much Affection,

      scottyf

      • Sobaika Mirza

        I think someone’s in love.

        • Anonymous

          . . . with ScottyF.   Thank you Scotty, for making my day and making me cry a little.

      • Anonymous

        What Scottyf said.  :-(

      • Anonymous

        Well said scottyf. I *got* Bert from the beginning and admired him greatly…even in his not-so-great times. I love his style sensibility and swoon at his vast knowledge of fashion and can only imagine how wonderful it would be to sit with him and a ‘mocktail’ and listen to his stories. I’ll bet the man has some stories! PS: I’m glad you didn’t jump in the river!

      • Sara__B

        Bert was my favorite, too. I will always prefer looking beautiful to being trendy, and I’ll miss the only grown-up in the room.  (Please keep watching, Scotty. I don’t want to lose both Bert and your wonderful comments all in the same week!)

        • Anonymous

          Bert was a grown-up? Did you start watching, like, last episode?

      • Anonymous

        Ohh, scottyf, that made me tear up. So gracious. I do and don’t hope you really get to meet Bert. It’s a slippery slope. I just hope you don’t entirely desert us here at TLo Dreams International. We would really miss your wit and compassion.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know Scotty; I’m starting to fear for Bert’s pet rabbit.

        –GothamTomato

        • Anonymous

          Oh! I’m a little slow this am. I got it!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LFA7IMYX3NQB6SP3JHKKSRNPOM Virginia

          so great!  Not as good perhaps but I can’t help myself:  “I WILL NOT BE IGNORED, BERT!!!!”

      • Anonymous

        Aww, someone has to figure out a way to connect these two lovely guys in real life.  T?  Lo?  Help?

      • Anonymous

        Very well said. :)

      • Anonymous

        Very well said. :)

      • Anonymous

        Scotty, that’s the best love missive since Captain Wentworth’s letter (“I can listen no longer in silence. I must speak to you by such means as are within my reach. You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. ”) in Austen’s Persuasion.

        Bravo Sir.

        Now get a room. And call Bert.

        • Anonymous

          Oh God, that letter!  Oh that Captain Wentworth!

          • Anonymous

            Indeed!

          • Anonymous

            Yes. I tell people that wonder why I love Persuasion that it is the perfectly executed novel of adolescent-hot yearning performed by adults.

        • Anonymous

          If only Alan Rickman had ever been cast as Frederick Wentworth, the ultimate Austen movie might have been made.

          • Anonymous

            He made a damn fine Col. Brandon though. 

            • Anonymous

              *sigh*

              yes

            • Anonymous

              “No… I must away…”  Yes, a damn fine Col. Brandon indeed.  (Ever see “Blow Dry”?  Rickman and Heidi Klum.  Love that wheat-haired man.

            • Anonymous

              His voice alone can reduce me to a quivering mass of jelly.

            • Anonymous

              One of my favorite memories is that I saw Alan Rickman on Broadway in “Private Lives” in 2002….Rickman doing Noel Coward….I.Die.

            • http://typicalgirlink.wordpress.com/ Dorothy Damage

              I saw that as well! I still treasure my signed Playbill and the picture I had taken with him. It changed my teenaged life!

            • Anonymous

              OMG-you have a signed Playbill and photo of The Man! That is so fabulous!

          • http://profiles.google.com/rosatcollege Ros Clarke

            The Ciaran Hinds/Amanda Root version is as close to perfect as it gets. 

            • Anonymous

              I have watched that movie probably 10 times and never get tired of it.  It is pretty damned perfect.

            • Judy Raddue

              Third that!!!

            • Anonymous

              I can’t argue, since it *is* my favorite Austen movie.

              Even if Alan Rickman isn’t in it. ;-)
               

      • Anonymous

        Scotty, that’s the best love missive since Captain Wentworth’s letter (“I can listen no longer in silence. I must speak to you by such means as are within my reach. You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. ”) in Austen’s Persuasion.

        Bravo Sir.

        Now get a room. And call Bert.

      • Anonymous

        I thought of you the ENTIRE episode and post elimination! 

      • Anonymous

        I thought of you the ENTIRE episode and post elimination! 

      • Anonymous

        ScottyF, I just posted this review on Bert’s FB and asked him to read your love letter. 

        You are WELCOME. 

      • Anonymous

         Scottyf, I am so very, very glad you did not jump in the river. We all would have missed you dearly!

      • Anonymous

        “The Canonization of Anya” ….Brilliant. … Bert did look tired and like he was ready and done. He really handled himself with dignity.

      • muzan-e

        Thank you. You’ve said it beautifully.

        And I couldn’t regret it all, this week. It stung, hearing his name called. But he’d accomplished what he came for: re-invigorating his design, re-aligning himself with himself. He’d accomplished what I wanted for him the most: showing at Bryant Park. It doesn’t matter in the slightest that his was one of the decoy collections: his show was an announcement to the fashion world. I’m here. I’m professional. And this is what I do. Form an orderly line to the left. 

        I’m going to miss him, though. I’m going to miss your thoughts on the guy as well.

      • Anonymous

        Scotty, I’m so glad to see you comment first — I was worrying about you all through the show and afterward!

      • Anonymous

        Beautifully said, Scotty. 

      • Anonymous

        Lovely thoughts, Scotty.  Bert showed us that it’s never too late for a lot of things–to chase your dream, to make an ass of yourself, to learn to adapt, to learn from others so unlike yourself.  He went out with class and mutual respect with the other competitors.  Would that everyone would do it so well.

        Mr. Keeter, if you’re listening, my very best wishes to you personally and professionally!

      • Leslie Streeter

        I too adore the Burt, and think that Lifetime is high to champion some dinky beauty queen who learned to sew an hour ago, and who benefits from kindnesses she won’t return, over a guy in their demographic’s age range. Why don’t I apply for shows about professions I can’t master? Because I can’t master them. We all know that if she looked like Becky with those same skills, she’d never have gotten past “Please stand in line.”
        The great thing is that Burt got something most people in life or reality shows rarely gain – a sense of self-awareness. He knew where he was lacking, where he was mean and dismissive, and let himself enjoy the ride.
        My hero.

      • Anonymous

        Awww, you have the sweetest online crush ever.  Remember, you’ll always have his runway show.

        Go Bert!  Loved your preppy sweater slung just so last night.

      • Anonymous

        Scotty- Audrey and I just finished watching the episode. There are 398 comments in the thread. Your’s is the first. We don’t need to keep reading. You had us at Dear Mr Keeter.

      • Anonymous

        Oh Scotty, I had so hoped, for your sake, that this day would never  come – you’re not in your widow’s weeds, are you?  Seriously – I’ll miss Bert — but not as much as you!!

      • Now I am The Bee

        Well said, Scotty, as usual.  I’ll miss Bert and I wish him well in his quest to get back into the fashion industry which he obviously loves. 

      • Anonymous

        Sorry Scotty  :(  I am bummed about Bert’s auf too. But at least he went out with grace and dignity. I liked when they showed how the other designers had come to understand and respect him, and how that made him happy.  :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XZZTG7JMUKYEC7ZLG55AFC6FEE Meredith

        Could not have expressed it better.  Love scottyf and bert.

      • http://twitter.com/TMamBo Therese Bohn

        Rock on Scotty! You’ve got me verklempt!

      • Anonymous

        Such a beautiful tribute! And Bert exemplifies George Eliot’s statement—and one I live by—that “You’re never too old to be what you might have been.”

        Take it and run with it, Bert!

      • Anonymous

        Aww, I love this.  Thanks for sharing, you made my morning.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1294512334 Terri Griffith

        Wow, very well put indeed. I think although this particular dress may have been a little drab I liked the subtlety of it and being 60 years old I would so wear that. I liked the flow of the colors when it moved. I think he should have been given at least one more chance considering the previous week he was a “runner-up” & his dress is going to be in Marie Claire magazine. That says a lot. Anyway, what you said was really spot-on. I’ll continue to watch & hope to God Josh doesn’t win. Such a drama queen.

    • Anonymous

      So, let me get this straight. Victor didn’t win the Nina challenge partly because a black dress isn’t good for an advertorial. Anya won this one which was…a black dress for an advertorial. Oh, yeah, that was an obvious rip off of the one Victor made in the Nina challenge. That she had to sew her in and cut her out of. Nina liked her makeup, so this wins? I’m calling complete and TOTAL conspiracy here—Anya is not nearly as good and they are all falling over her.

      When she was paired up she said “I’m glad I got Laura. We get along and she’s helped me out a lot in the past.” (paraphrasing) Then she refuses to help Josh when they’ve all helped her out? That’s just crap. She is all take, take, take and no give. Just like last week when they said create a second look, they did it again when they saw Anya’s first dress having unequal armholes. Editing challenge, my foot.

      Josh was robbed. Say what you will about him personally (that’s he’s an argumentative douche, that he wears a lot of product, that he licks fabrics—whatever), that was the best garment of any of them.

      I will miss Bert. And I feel really, really bad for that beautiful owl.

      • http://twitter.com/curlysooo Susan Fridy

        the owl should have been invited to “after the runway” to clear the air about this unjust mistreatment!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1314915676 Harvard Bridges

          I really wanted to see what the designers would have made based off of the owl…

          • Anonymous

            It would have been better for Bert. Any of the other three birds would have been better for Bert. Horrible luck of the draw for him.

            • Anonymous

              Luck of the draw? Really? That velvet bag is nothing but a prop. Those teams were hand-picked, and so was the inspiration. Such is my belief.

          • Anonymous

            Me too. Poor owl.

        • Anonymous

          I found it interesting that three of the four birds presented fairly monochromatic palettes, with the parrot being the only exception. The birds should either all have been neutral toned or all brightly colored, but not both. That parrot was a spanner in the works for Bert, while its over-the-top color was tailor-made for Joshua.

          And Joshua: You’re no Rami Kashou. Your draping was sacklike, and the hem was wonky.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ME73SF3T6AEJHFT4ODCUUVHTAM melicious

            Not to mention, Amazon parrots can be mean buggers, especially when in “season.” I still have a scar next to my nose where our damn parrot (no longer have him since we moved to San Francisco from Austin and was technically my mother-in-law’s) bit my face after jumping at me. If it would have been live, I would have sent Bert a gift basket for having deal with is own damn parrot for the epi.

      • Anonymous

        I liked everything you said, but I’m not sure Josh was robbed. It was a striking color, but I was rooting for Kimberly. That was a lovely dress. Although no one really nailed this challenge. Bert came close, believe it or not. (Drab plummage hiding colorful feathers revealed in flight.)

        • Anonymous

          I thought the silver was inspired by the birdie feet, which i thought was a neat idea–but that corset top was hiddy. The skirt was gorgeous. I do not see how he got aufed before Laura.

          • Anonymous

            I do not see how he got aufed before Laura.

            Me neither. We thought Laura’s was awful (of the bottom three). My husband, whom I had to bribe to watch PR with me, has declared he is now done with the show. I’m considering it.

            And here’s another thing, I cannot remember a season where I’ve been so confused about the arbitrary placement of top 3 and bottom 3. Who is auf and who wins. It’s like the judges are throwing dice.

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GFMOZFM3WT3T56EZHVZFK7UXSI Ramon

              Throwing dice? More like chicken bones

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

              Second week in a row: I screamed “Whaaaat?!” when the contestant was aufed.

              Has Laura won even one?

              When her stuff isn’t boring, it’s annoying. Satin camel toe too tight leggings, too literal feathers. One half her outfit was bad, with the other half costume.

            • Anonymous

              She won the stilt challenge, b/c Anthony Ryan said she deserved it more than he did.  But the design was all his.

          • Anonymous

            I find all of Laura’s output boring – designs and anything that comes out of her mouth. Complete lack of substance.

        • Anonymous

          I thought the silver was inspired by the birdie feet, which i thought was a neat idea–but that corset top was hiddy. The skirt was gorgeous. I do not see how he got aufed before Laura.

        • Terence Ng

          Me too! I actually gasped when I saw the lines and movement of the dress when it came out. I tuned it late and missed which birds they had been assigned, but I immediately thought “cockatoo” because it replicated the lines of white and subtly colored feathers in its tail. Totally fell head over heels in love with it. That girl nailed it.

        • Sobaika Mirza

          I liked Bert’s dress too. Or at least I didn’t mind it. The bustier was superbly constructed, and TELL ME you can’t see Gaga or Bey stomping around in it. I loved the pop effect of the sharp green in the skirt and it seemed to move beautifully. They just didn’t belong together, and it wasn’t right for the challenge and couldn’t hold up against Josh’s wonderful look. 

          I was hoping that Laura would get the heave-ho and they’d keep Bert. It could be justified (especially since his overall work is so much stronger) and after they let Emilio get through in a hot pink net bikini, do we REALLY need a good rationale for their choices?

      • Anonymous

        I totally agree that the inspiration for Anya’s dress was a taken from Victor’s Nina-challenge dress, except she couldn’t even figure how to construct a proper closure at the neck.

        As for Josh, he finally seemed to realize that Bert has some wisdom and experience to share, and went with a dress that both Bert and Tim liked.

      • Anonymous

        I should have just read the first page of posts to get to yours Tignor. I said the exact same thing (ripoff of Viktor).

        • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

          Not only was it a Viktor rip-off, it would be a perfect maternity dress with that big pooch in the front. And the back side had so much volume that at least two Kardashians could fit in it at the same time.

      • Leslie Streeter

        And she’s not as good as she thinks she is, that Anya. And now she’s being pumped up. Hope she never gets ugly, because that’s gonna be one sad realization.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          What’s going to happen when she’s between 40 and death? Even Josh won’t like her then!

          • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

            he will be there sooner than he wants to know himself.

      • Anonymous

        In all fairness, she wasn’t competing head-to-head with Victor’s black dress in this challenge, and Kim’s look legitimately was more suited for the Nina challenge than  Victor’s. 

    • Sobaika Mirza

      I LOVE BERT. I can’t believe the judges (or producers or anyone else) could look at their overall work and think Laura had more to give than he did. Sad to see him go, but I hope this rejuvenated his career and wish him success.

      And this episode (and the aftershow thing) left me nothing but a need to shriek and throw things when I think of Josh or Anya. What absolute witches both of them are.

    • Anonymous

      I need a T-shirt that says “Nevermore, bitches”

    • Anonymous

      I’ll keep watching this show to the end, but my heart just isn’t in it. I think it needs a long hiatus after this season.
      And even the über-fabulous Laura Bennett couldn’t keep me interested in “After the Runway”.

      • Anonymous

        No, but it WAS fun to see her take Josh to the mat & funny to hear him say that SHE was the reason he (supposedly) couldn’t read any blogs about the show (which, hello, is another big porky.)

        –GothamTomato

        • Anonymous

          No kidding, right? I think Josh was right that the whole segment was set up in the venerable tradition of bear baiting, but he surely met and exceeded expectations. Bless his nasty little heart – the best insult he could think of was “you’re twice my age”? Oh honey. And of the four other designers sitting there, only Bert was unwilling to gloss over Josh’s drama vortex behavior during the season. Although I think Anya might have been stroking his knee in pseudo-sympathy only because she was grateful that the interrogation spotlight had shifted from her to him.

          • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

            “Although I think Anya might have been stroking his knee in pseudo-sympathy only because she was grateful that the interrogation spotlight had shifted from her to him.”

            love this comment.

          • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

            And where was Laura?

            • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

              omg i just realized she wasn’t part of that discussion…lol

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Well, based on the fact that they didn’t start this until mid-season, I’m assuming they didn’t shoot it until after the season was done.  (I didn’t watch it yet) If that’s true and they weren’t planning on doing it when they signed the designers, none of them would be contractual obligated to participate — unless there’s a clause requiring them to submit to any add-on bullshit the producers want, in which case, why would you sign that contract?!? 

              Maybe she didn’t want to do it, and if she wasn’t required to do so legally, told them where they could shove their damn “clearing the air”.

            • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

              ok…

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              If they weren’t obligated to appear, maybe Blenley was busy or maybe she just refused — I could see her being the type to refuse in a huff over not winning the season.  ‘Cause you know it’d be the judges’ fault in her mind, not that her stuff wasn’t up to par.

            • Anonymous

              According to Bert in the interview he did with Blogging Project Runway, she was there and they just didn’t bring her out yet for some reason. So, apparently, she will have a separate entrance in a later episode.

            • Anonymous

              In his BPR interview, Bert says Laura Kathleen was there, but they somehow chose to show what was taped before she came out on stage.

        • Anonymous

          I doubt it was just her….given his qu’est-se que c’est – qu’est-se que c’est? interaction with Tim, reading anything may be a problem.  Sorry Joshua, but naive and arrogant (or is it indignant) is Bush 43.

    • Brian Lipinski

      “And even though we’ve joked all season about her being a dangerously manipulative beauty queen, even we were shocked when she refused to give Josh some extra fabric mere days after all her competitors rallied around her to save her ass. She can try and justify that all she wants but it made her look incredibly nasty in our eyes.”I dunno, I thought the circumstances were different enough. Anya got that outpouring of support because of a freak accident that occurred that conceivably could have happened to any of them. Josh wanted fabric because he had planned badly. I’m not really an Anya fan, but that didn’t bother me at all.

      • Sobaika Mirza

        I might agree if that were the only instance of Anya accepting help. The aftershow thing made reference to Laura actually sewing for Anya because she was in a time crunch (had planned badly). It seems that over the course of the competition Anya had been perfectly happy to take all the help she could get but uninterested in giving any of it back.

        • Anonymous

          Many designers on past shows have helped others with sewing and gluing at the last minute. Anya didn’t ask for help and if someone offers to help one would be foolish to turn it down. Can’t believe I just defended her! Oh well. 

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          Laura CUT and sewed the collar on a jumpsuit that Anya either won for, or was in the top three with, and Anya made no mention of it when the judges were praising her! I’ve had her number all along. You don’t get into the Miss Universe pageant without being able to manipulate the hell out of people. 
          That being said, I don’t think it was particularly bad of her to not give Josh fabric. That’s  too much to ask at this stage of the game, and giving her all that help in the beginning was ridiculous. 

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        In the after-the-runway pileon, Josh mentioned all the non-tangible help that Anya has received, such as sewing, finishing, and other helpful tricks that allow models to put on and remove clothing without a needle and thread. While it’s not a 1:1 comparison, she’s benefitted over the challenges from her fellow contestants. It’s their fault for cutting her as much slack as the glamoured judges though.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I agree. They were dumb enough to trip all over themselves and each other so they could bask in her fabulousness. I mean, there hasn’t been a season, in my memory anyway, in which designers didn’t help each other, e.g., the help Chloe received when she was making her garden store dress (I want to say Kara Janx helped her, but I could be wrong). I love seeing them help each other out. But Anya needed help every step of the way. Both Viktor and Laura saved her non-sewing ass in a few challenges, and do we even have to talk about all the work Becky did during one of the 7000 team challenges? She received fabric, advice, and money until, all of a sudden, Josh’s and Viktor’s Light Bulbs of Realization went off over their heads.

          My point being I can’t believe it took these designers so long to realize what she was doing. Unlike Tom and Lorenzo, I wasn’t the least bit shocked when she refused to give Josh any fabric.

          Ooh, one other thing. Notice that after she refused Josh’s request, she went to Viktor for advice on her garment. I guess that’s one of those intangible things that don’t really matter.

          Huh. I said in the TLounge that I don’t dislike her. I think somewhere between there and here, I’ve changed my mind. Maybe my Light Bulb of Realization just went off.

      • Lori

        It wasn’t a ‘freak accident’, it was her fault.  She chose to carry the money that way.

        • O Superman

          I don’t see how “freak accident” doesn’t mean it wasn’t her fault? I mean, someone else could have had it fall out of a pocket or whatever. That would have been their fault for not properly securing it as well, but it still would’ve been a low-percentage, highly-damaging event. Point is that it was significantly bizarre and unexpected that the other designers were probably imagining themselves under a similar circumstance and thinking they wouldn’t want to go down in such a way.

          • http://twitter.com/Ash2046 Ashley Wu

            It’s her own fault. It’s a competition and you only have that much money and you tuck it into the breast of a halter dress? 3/4 of the envelope was peeping out, it’s no wonder the envelope dropped. It was pure carelessness on her part.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I don’t care if she didn’t give him fabric.  Because I felt that the other designers were kind of nuts for giving her material so early last time.  Anya is NOT a good seamstress, and to give away any of her fabric could have put her at a severe disadvantage because if she fucked up, she’d need the extra fabric to fix it. 

      • BerlinerNYC

        Thank you for articulating my opinion before I had the chance to. I saw nothing wrong with what Anya did or didn’t do. The only thing she could have done to be nicer was to remind Josh that they are always allowed to work with muslin (there’s a little bit of volume there, right?), which got her the win last week…

      • Geno Boggiatto

        It didn’t bother me either. I think you make a good point that the circumstance was that he had just changed his mind about his fabrics. When Anya had given Kimberly fabric before, there were many more contestants left, and I think it’s a valid point when she said it was too late in the competition to be asking for that kind of help. It is a competition after all, and when your chances of making it to the next round are getting slimmer, of course you’re going to play your cards close to the chest. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          There were TWO more people left, because that was in the Sheepdogs challenge.  Then the Lost Money challenge and then this one.

          It’s not like that happened in one of the first couple challenges.

      • http://twitter.com/OperaSickness Opera Sickness

         I also think that the fact that this challange was head to head made a difference.  There’s a difference between helping some one avoid getting eliminated over something that has little to do with the competition (loosing one’s money*), and helping Josh beat Burt when he screwed up in planning his purchases, something which is part of the challanges.  Also, keep in mind that Anya turned down the fabric scraps, and, in the history of the show, tons of contestants have purchased too little fabric, or needed to change their idea mid way through the challange and they didn’t scrounge for fabric. Kimberly ruined her fabric and she didn’t beg for scraps.

        *BTW  as an avid bra as purse practitioner, I have never lost anything that I have put in my bra, but I misplace my purse or things fall out of my pocket without ALL THE TIME.  When I carry things in my bra, they are in conact with my body and I am more likely to notice if they move. Also, If I were mugged or pick-pockeded, I can’t imagine they would empty out my cleavage.  If you think loosing money at all is not deserving of sympathy, that’s one thing, but all of the people who are insinuating that if the money had fallen out of her purse or pocket it would be one thing, but her bra.. that’s all on her, well I think that’s just reassessing your standard in order to harp on Anya which is the inverse of what y’all are complaining the judges are doing and sort of hypocritical. The TLo comments section has turned me into an Anya fan from my reaction to all of the effort you all are putting into turning her into some sort of cackling villian. It’s like a lot of you are trying to prove how enlightened you are about the editing and producer influence by going out of your way to deplore someone who doesn’t stand out (in this group) on the show as particularly untalented or particularly bitchy.

        • Anonymous

          It was a HUGE envelope relative to what I suspect is her gossamer-like bra strap…..additional theories to supplant the BM – set-up theory

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I think she deserves a little flack for the WAY she had it in her bra — I’m sure when you do it, you probably make sure it’s secured and not just hanging on the edge.  I know I do.  In fact, when there’s money in my bra (which has been often) it goes at the BOTTOM OF THE CUP!  I never stick money at the top edge where it can fall out.

        • Anonymous

          How on earth could you not notice that damn massive envelope slipping out of your top? No, really. If you have ever worn a bra or tried to stick an envelope in the top of your shirt you know it’s not possible to not be (1) aware of the damn thing the whole time and (2) aware of the second it slips.

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Freak accident?  Did a raven swoop down upon her at Mood and steal that envelope in her cleavage?  Nothing freaky about being an airhead and not keeping track of your money in NYC.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          i’m gonna get screamed at somewhere for this but she didnt lose her money– she purposefully dropped it. i dont know if she was told to drop it or, if she was, whether it was her personal handlers or the showrunner’s people who told her to drop it or whoever– but i am beyond certain thats what happened. it’s all of a piece, it was just one more entry in the logbook of her life on PR &, undoubtedly, before she ever got there. some awful thing happens–a very small, unimportant awful thing, mind you–& she cleverly & pluckily overcomes it.

          i dont know how or why it was decided that she was to become our lifetime heroine, but thats clearly whats happened. i have no idea why they thought we needed a manufactured PR winner to go w/ the ones in the past who were far less prefab– but for some reason they did. they did last season too, if perhaps less. maybe they thought the response to the last costume conquerer was more negative than theyd like, maybe gretchen was less scripted & conscripted than their present conquistadorette but, whatever it is, they grabbed control over this program & destroyed it in the process of bending it to their collective {or individual, cant tell} will.

    • sweetlilvoice

      This show just gets worse and worse. It should just be canceled once and for all-or moved back to Bravo where it belongs. Hell, if ANTM is still on, then nothing surprises me anymore TV wise.

      I also must say that the models are looking rough. Where did they find this crop? Are we to believe these are real models?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

        Do you really think Bravo is going to treat this any better?

        • Anonymous

          They need another production company.That would make a huge difference.

          • Anonymous

            the devil you know beats the devil you don’t. What if this moved to CMT, or ESPN, or was produced by the same people who do Jersey Shore? The Mentalist? Hillbilly Handfishing?

            Actually, come to think of it, that may be interesting. It may not be better, but lord knows it can’t be much worse!

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I’d like to see it go to AMC — granted, it doesn’t really fit there, but so what?  It doesn’t really fit on Lifetime either.  And they’ve done some great stuff in recent years, though all of it scripted.  Or A&E, they could use a good show to revitalize the network. 

            • Anonymous

              Oooh AMC would be fantastic. On AMC it might actually become a show about fashion and design instead of a game show.

            • Anonymous

              Oooh AMC would be fantastic. On AMC it might actually become a show about fashion and design instead of a game show.

            • Anonymous

              Who did the Joe Zee show?  Was that A&E?  Or the dreaded LOGO??

              And then there was that not quite a season wonder Launch My Line (edition 2)..or was it 1, where the judges actually went and looked at the construction of the clothes…..Anya would have been gone day 1.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              That was Sundance Channel. 

            • Anonymous

              Now there’s an idea.

              Bring a little Jersey Shore to Project Runway. Call it Boardwalk Runway, and the first model to fall out of her dress wins a trip to Italy.

      • Anonymous

        I almost feel sorry for the poor girls.  The clothes are horriffic! 
        It would behoove a few of the models to have a consultation with a good dermatologist. 

      • Anonymous

        I think these are girls who are starting out, trying to become models.  I wonder if they get anything for appearing.  I mean, I know they get exposure and pictures to add to their books, and sometimes a magazine spread.  But I’m betting they don’t get paid for showing up.  What really solidified that thought for me was seeing a girl in some hair magazines.  Was it last season that had the creepy guy in the bowler hat, who talked about loving boobs?  That guy’s model with the short blond hair-I’ve seen her in those magazines recently.  You know those clip-n-carry pictures.  So I think it’s all about trying to become a model.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Eww. I had forgotten about AssHat Jason. And yeah, in the past, the models didn’t get paid. I don’t know if that has changed.

        • Anonymous

          NPR’s Talk of the Nation recently had a guest who had written a book about the modeling industry. I want to say that the author is an anthropologist. I was appalled to learn that the pay is often really low — she said an editorial piece in a high fashion mag might only pay $150 for the whole shoot.

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: Show of hands: who else thought that “You only have to show one look” twist was devised at the last second to give *ahem* certain people a leg up once the producers saw how things were shaking out in the work room?”

      Producer manipulation???? Why I am shocked, SHOCKED, that gambling is going on in this establishment!

      (but we’ll always have Paris)

      –GothamTomato

      • Anonymous

        ♡ 

      • Anonymous

        I usually abhor conspiricy theorist…. But… come on!  When Anya had no fabric and was in danger…. POOF!… a twist…let’s go back to Mood.  Now when Kimberly is having major issues….POOF!… a twist.  Then when they see the crap they are designing ….. POOF… a twist… only work on one design these last few hours so the runway show is not laughable.  These producers are horrible.  They are sending this show down the crapper by trying to manipulate it too much.  I just can’t belive all of these twists were decided pre-filming.

        • http://twitter.com/OperaSickness Opera Sickness

          I wonder if Lifetime wants to keep the women in?  Because they are television… for women.  That might even explain Gretchen.

          • Anonymous

            Well — the woman in this show that we all want is Bert!!

      • http://profiles.google.com/singingraisin ali meowmeow

        Your winnings, sir.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1732710836 Cheri Dusek

          Round up the usual suspects.

      • Now I am The Bee

        “This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.”
         
        Actually–I wonder how Tim feels about these last two episodes and the “surprize twists” that he’s had to foist onto the designers.  Is there anywhere that he is blogging or writing his thoughts about the show this season? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1084733830 Kate Andrews

      Thanks for the Poe kicker! I have to say, Laura Bennett did a great job being the Voice of the Audience. Joshua needed to be called out, and she was just the gal to do it.

      • Anonymous

        And lord love her, she brought up one of the things that was ticking me off. Most of the designers are not exactly rolling in wealth, but of course the Bedazzler though only of himself. Cry me a river, buddy, but it’s still not all about you.

        Otherwise though, this whole thing is rigged. Josh, Anya, and Viktor are probably going to the finals, and of those three, only Viktor belongs there. And even with that it’s only in comparison. None of this season’s contestants have been all that exciting or interesting design-wise. That makes me sad.

        • Andrea Gates Sanford

          Agreed–this show is already over (as if it ever really began). Josh, Anya and Viktor will go to the finals and Anya will win, even though Viktor will turn out a better show. TLo hit it spot on… nevermore, bitches.

        • Anonymous

          I didn’t watch the after-show, so maybe I’m missing something Josh said there about the money…but I didn’t have any problem with him saying he needed the money during PR!

          Mondo said the same thing (I believe he even said $20 in his bank account or something like that) last year when he won the L’Oreal challenge.  And Gretchen said something about how poor she was, too.  I felt like he was just being honest…better than sniffing that he didn’t need the money anyway.

          • Anonymous

            I agree.  I know Viktor said he wanted the money.  “Give it to me. Now.’  I hate to defend Josh, but if anyone is offered a huge cash prize, wouldn’t you be saying how much you needed it?  I mean, I don’t have negative money in the bank as Josh said he does, but that doesn’t mean I don’t need it. 

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Yeah, I’d be looking to score the cash.  I probably wouldn’t mention needing the money, because I was raised to believe one’s bank account was private, no matter how low OR high.  But I don’t really have a problem with him saying he needs it or that he really wanted to win that challenge in particular because of the money.

              BTW, of all the challenges I’d want to win, it would completely be this one — give me 20K over your damn Piperlime placement ANY DAY.  Especially since it’s PR that owns that design and gets the money for them.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              I know, right? It’s exactly what struggling artists and writers hear on a regular basis. “We’re giving you exposure, which is more valuable than money.” That sounds really good, and I get it if it’s a new publication or company, but as often as not, they’re just being cheap bastards. My husband, who’s been a graphic artist for 25 years, still hears it from potential freelance clients.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Yeah.  Because showing a design on Piperlime’s website is SO MUCH more valuable exposure than being on NATIONAL TV.  Riiigggghhhtttt….

              My feeling was always that the magazines that couldn’t afford to pay me (because short fiction has no market) were fine — not paying me because you don’t want to is a whole different story.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josefina-Madariaga-Suárez/100002964685796 Josefina Madariaga Suárez

      Farewell, Queen Mother. When he wasn’t claiming he was above the whole dynamic, he was very refreshing as a reality contestant. I’ll miss him.

    • Anonymous

      It’s like this: Tom thinks that this dress is, in many ways, very impressive coming from her. Not because she’s only been sewing for 40 minutes, but because it was far outside her comfort zone and she pulled it off rather effectively.
      This is not Project Personal Best! Anya is impressive, but not so much that she should win because she overcame her own obstacles.

      • Anonymous

        If this were Project Personal Best! they all would be winners (except Laura who has been shopping at NM or Saks or wherever her whole life and for what I can see has had no tragedy to live through).

        Maybe that’s how they set about casting this season: only those with sad personal stories may apply.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          If that’s true, I may not even bother polishing up any of my skills before applying; I have plenty of sad stories!  My dad was an alcoholic and not a very nice one!  My father died in front of me when I was 18!  I was a single mother!  I have a mental health file thicker than Bart Simpson’s permanent record, including severe clinical depression!  I’m not only a Lifetime movie, I’m SIX Lifetime movies rolled into one!

          Of course, they’d be mighty disappointed as I have NO intention of ever discussing any of them on camera (with the possible exception of my depression, which I’m always happy to talk about in the hopes of convincing other people to seek help if they need it, and then only if somehow relevant:)

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            Better for you to not polish up your skills. Think of the barriers you’ll have to overcome! Also, make sure you have a stupid hairstyle that only some clown at Bunim/Murray or Lifetime thinks is hip and cool.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Oooo… I don’t know about the hair thing.  Mine is fairly problematic in that it’s really thick and naturally wavy, but the wave is weak enough that only the bottom half waves up because of the weight — it pretty much requires serious styling for anything outside a ponytail, and I wouldn’t have time for that.

              I could dye it though — I love dying it…I don’t know that I can get it weird enough for B/M though:)

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Coloring your would work. Green might be good. :-)

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I’m thinking maybe black with lavendar streaks…

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDI2DLE7DE3YPW2ONIHBWOVHMA ecallaw

              Please tell me you have applied for the show–you would have such a built-in following around here!

          • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

            Oh Shannon, please keep us posted if you do apply!  I will so root for you!!!!  

          • Anonymous

            I’d refer to your problems obtusely so you could get a multi-series deal.

            — But the bad/hip haircut is a good idea — it will help extend your brand.

            PS- I appreciate your candor….my own file is pretty interesting…..but I am not about to share it on national TV…unfortunately, the sympathy one sees on TV doesn’t always play out in real world competition.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Totally off the subject of PR, but…  My feeling on it is that there are so many people with mental health problems that aren’t really capable of speaking about them — because they just don’t feel comfortable with it.  I’m naturally talkative and am very comfortable with my own history, so I can handle it and those of us who can do it comfortably should.  Too many people still think it’s okay to be a diabetic but not to have clinical depression, when both should be treated the same way. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          I’m sure Laura’s got some trauma in her life. They’ll drag it out of her soon enough.

          • Anonymous

            was her father a tugboat captain?

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        That’s always counted, though.  Every season, the judges have taken into account that a piece was outside of someone’s zone and awarded points for that.  And there is a valid reason for that: it shows the possibility of growth as an artist.  It shows that the designer isn’t so locked into their “look” that they won’t have anywhere to go after one or two seasons.

        • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

          but for every single challenge? anya is stepping out of her comfort zone every episode because she has no experience.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            No, there have been a lot of challenges that hasn’t been mentioned as a point in her favor — last week for instance. 

            The grading on a curve because she doesn’t know how to construct well is bullshit.  But not all of the things she’s getting points for are because of that curve.  Some of them have been things that have been done every season of PR since the beginning.

            • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

              i have to respectfully disagree. if she hadn’t mentioned that she just learned to sew 4 months ago, the judges wouldn’t be so amazed with her output. 

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Oh, that’s what I meant — I can see where it could be read that I think the THEORY that they’re doing so is bullshit;  what I actually intended was that the fact they are doing so is bullshit.  They are most definitely giving her credit for being able to construct to that level considering the amount of time she’s been sewing, and that’s wrong.  (I hope that clarifies:)

              As for the point in her favor, I meant a lot of them that she’s done well in HAVE BEEN in her style, and they haven’t tried to make the case that she was stretching herself.  (Though far too many times I’ve heard her praised for trying something she hasn’t tried before — sorry, but to me, that’s just a little bit stupid on her part.  WHY in god’s name would she not have made a pair of pants before coming on the show?!?  I don’t care if she learned to sew last week, the first thing she should have and would have done would be make a basic dress, a basic pant and a basic top.  Because you’re gonna have to know all of them at least once!)

            • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

              lol oh yeah i totally agree :)

              “WHY in god’s name would she not have made a pair of pants before coming on the show?!?”

              seriously. 

            • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

              I totally agree.

            • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

              Last week it was “she only had $11.50 and made those pants! OOOO! What challenges our plucky girl overcomes.”  I’m not impressed by wide elastic waisted pajama pants made from 2 yds of chiffon and a dyed muslin blouse that isn’t finished.   Muslin isn’t exactly difficult to work with.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Well, I think PR vastly overstates the cost of materials — with very few exceptions, most PR looks require under 6 yards of fabric.  How is it so impossible to construct a look with less than $300?!?  That’s $50 a yard for god’s sake!  I think we compare it to the price of designer clothes and it looks really small, but if you look at the cost of fabric and notions, (and the thread is included) their budgets really shouldn’t be that hard.

              Are there “wow” fabrics that can cost that much, and make for a great look?  Absolutely.  But you aren’t making your whole look out of those fabrics every time.  And if you have a lower budget like the $50 ones, design accordingly.  You can make a dress in 3 yards tops, and you can do as Anya did last week and look for fabrics that are wider. 

      • Anonymous

        Although I find her less than mediocre as a designer, I think that Anya has been very astute in playing the PR game. She’s always very careful to loudly advertise that she’s never done something before, that it’s outside her skill set/comfort zone/etc. so that she sets up a situation where she gets credit simply for producing something. Add in TLo’s quite apt observation that the judges are going to respond to beautiful people,very likely producer manipulation from Bunim/Murrray and Anya is sitting in great position.

      • Anonymous

        ****This is not Project Personal Best!****

        I swear, it’s like they’re patting a child on the head for tying her shoes.  Maybe everyone should downplay their experience and act like they started yesterday.

        Well, only if they’re pretty.  This show officially sucks now.

      • Anonymous

        No, apparently it *is* Project Personal Best–at least for Anya.

    • Anonymous

      Nevermore! :)  LOVE you guys.

      I thought they showed us what they did show of the judging to justify a Laura auf (which made sense, since I was sure it was her time to go, and also sure they wanted to keep Bert around).  But Bert’s look was clearly the worst.

      And I think Anya’s was really good. Very stylish and really good in terms of the challenge.  AND the judges do often give wins to black dresses. Viktor was wrong: it’s not a sewing contest. It’s a design contest. Not all great designers can sew. I’m not saying she’s great, nor even that I’m a big fan. But I do think she deserved the win (edging Josh out because of the frou frou on his dress’ shoulder). Though like you, TLo, I REALLY wanted to see the dotted Swiss dress!!

      • Anonymous

        Thanks BB, it irked me so much when Victor whined about it being a sewing contest. This look was the only one the Anya produced that I though was worthy of a win. I was also interested in seeing her other look and I am not Anya fan.

        I also love that besided being funny, charming, snarky, fabulous, judgy bitched with great taste, TLo are also well read. HAHA! Nevermore bitches. 

        • Anonymous

          I’m not a fan of her either.  But it’s not the first time in Project Runway history!!! that someone sewed their model into a garment.  It happens at least once a season.  That doesn’t bother me so much as she never knows HOW to do what she wants.  And while it is a design competition, each contestant is supposed to sew their own garment.  They ding people for uneven or unfinished hems, so on some level it is about sewing.  Just not mostly about sewing.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            And PR isn’t the only place in fashion it happens either.  There are models on FW runways that are sewn in — because if a model shows up 5 lbs under fitting weight, you have to sew her in because you don’t have time to take it in correctly.

    • http://twitter.com/madamesuggia Madame Suggia

      I cannot stand this a moment longer…Mizz Anya has way-way-way more sewing experience than she’s letting on. Trust me on this one, there is no way on God’s green earth that someone working under those time constraints could design, draft/drape, cut, sew and fit a basic dress…let alone one like she showed on the runway…without a good few hundred sewing hours under her belt. I’m telling you this as a rag trade professional of over 30 years standing. And also, because I do think she’s a smug little madam who deserves a slap.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCJEZMOV4VYMXC5WJALLZNYEB4 Mari Rose

        I totally agree. There is no way she only has 4 months sewing experience.

        Although I’m loathe to agree with Josh about anything, I think he was right when he said she’s playing the game – doing or saying whatever it takes to win – and doing so masterfully.

      • http://profiles.google.com/birdiesays.clothes . Miller

        I saw it pointed out (I believe on Threads’ site) when she did “My first ever pair of pants!” that she’d been shown tailoring pants on her intro video. She doesn’t have the same experience as many of her competitors, sure, but the girl has either been sewing for a while or had an incredibly intensive four months wherein she did nothing but eat, sleep, and sew with a skilled teacher at her side.

        • Anonymous

          Also of course what jackass would teach some one a 4 month course and never go over:
          pants
          silk
          jersey

          three SUPER COMMON things.

        • Anonymous

          Also of course what jackass would teach some one a 4 month course and never go over:
          pants
          silk
          jersey

          three SUPER COMMON things.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            And silk is difficult enough to require knowing what one is doing, plus it’s virtually required on PR.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Well, but tailoring pants and making them from scratch are WILDLY different.  If the pants are cut correctly to begin with and they don’t need to come in much, generally all that you’d have to do to tailor them is bring in the outside seam.  Cutting them, on the other hand, is far more difficult.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

            Someone posted a profile of Anya that states she graduated from Parsons school of Design, and had 2 lines out, a lingerie line, and ladies clothing line. What’s up with that?

      • G Spencer

        “Mizz Anya has way-way-way more sewing experience than she’s letting on.” 

        I agree with you 100%!! she is playing it!!… 

      • Anonymous

        I agree Anya has waaaaaay more sewing experience than she’s claiming. She’s pulling the only-four-months card to justify the fact that her sewing skills aren’t what they should be.  She gets judged as a promising novice rather than an untalented pro.
        Also, the sleeves on her dress were hiddy.

        • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

          “She gets judged as a promising novice rather than an untalented pro.”  Yep. She’s exaggerating certain weaknesses so that she always manages to “overcome” those obstacles and thus the judges are careful to ignore her obvious lack of skill and talent.  She should have gone home on the Sheepdogs challenge when she made that ugly badly made tunic top and those even more badly made pants that split up the back.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          Look at this! unbelievable. She’s a GRADUATE of Parsons???
          http://www.anyaayoungchee.com/about/

          • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

            Holy shit! Why haven’t we seen this yet? OK. Any benefit of the doubt has gone out the window now.

      • BerlinerNYC

        I’m most inclined to believe what someone suggested here a couple of months ago, namely that she has plenty of home-sewing experience (say, with family) but just started doing pattern-making and draping more recently. The “four months” business doesn’t mean she never held a needle and thread before…

        • Anonymous

          Yes. And it’s perfectly possible to get hundreds of hours of sewing experience in four months, and to learn an enormous amount in that time if one is coached. Someone posted weeks ago that another site said that she trained with a seamstress for that four months. I didn’t see that site myself (not that I looked for it) but I believe it.

          I could hem, sew on buttons, patch & darn (badly, oh so badly) and run straight seams on a sewing machine by the time I was 8 or 9, but certainly wouldn’t have claimed to have any ‘sewing experience’ at that point in my life.   

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I still can’t darn, so you’ve got me beat!  I can make you a perfectly fitted jacket or do pleats that are exact to a millimeter, but darning (or knitting) is beyond me. 

            Of course, I also can’t read a pattern.  I’m kinda odd that way:)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R
    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      So sad to see Bert go. And it was a dated, sad dress. But I’ve been over Laura’s designs since her green satin leprechaun-paid-escort-wedding-guest ensemble from a million challenges ago. She’s competent, but should cater to rich mid-west clientelle with her own boutique label.

      I’m surprised that the advertorial didn’t depict Anya sewing her model into her dress. :P

      • Anonymous

        You mean similar to Chloe?

      • Anonymous

        You mean similar to Chloe?

        • http://profiles.google.com/paperpunchaddiction Kim Score

          Right on! I thought it was a travesty when Chloe won.  Hell, as much as I hated Santino, i thought even he had a better collection.

          • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

            Meh. They wanted to give it to Daniel, but he wound up presenting a JC Penney RTW collection and they just couldn’t justify it. Although that strategy worked for Gretchen last season. :P

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I HATED that collection — it was my LEAST favorite winning collection ever, and I’m including Gretchen in that.  At least with Gretchen’s, I could see it working for a certain market (And I’m aware I’m alone in this, at least around here.)  It wasn’t my favorite, and I think Mondo’s would have sold just as well, but I was okay with it. 

            Chloe, on the other hand, sent down a bunch of dated boring clothes.  I thought Santino’s collection was interesting, though not my style.  Daniel V’s was too basic, but very well done basics.  Either of them would have made me much happier than giving the win to those awful ’80s retreads made by a woman who had said she didn’t want any career in fashion beyond her little circle in Texas.

            • Anonymous

              Chloe showed clothes for her clientele (and I went to school in Texas…so I know….I wore it…in 1982)….I thought it was really stiff…..but it is a big demographic….and should we remember….as talented as Jay is….I think they were aiming for someone who was more likely to be able be cross promoted. 

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              And if Chloe had shown it in 1982, I would have been fine with it.  As it was, the clothes were ugly and outdated retreads.  There was nothing new or interesting about it.  I will admit, I am a bit biased because I didn’t like her anyway, and I HATED how in one of the last episodes she was talking in the workroom about how she had already done the NY fashion thing and had been so unhappy there so that wasn’t what she wanted… Um that’s how you make it big in fashion.  There were people in that room who wanted it more than anything, and she was saying that she basically just wanted money and exposure for her little boutique.  I found it a little insensitive.  I don’t know why but it bugged me.

              I also think Daniel V would have been very cooperative with Tim and the show and made use of the opportunities winning would have given him.  Santino…. I don’t know. 

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

              Jay refused the management and promotion AND the money because of a clause in the contract that said PR owned his creations in perpetuity. I don’t blame him one bit. After that first year, they took that clause out.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Not exactly — it said that they owned a portion of his designs (which may have been limited only to a line launched via PR money and management) in perpetuity.  Still absolute crap.

            • Anonymous

              Forgot about that clause…..absolutely wouldn’t have taken it either.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I HATED that collection — it was my LEAST favorite winning collection ever, and I’m including Gretchen in that.  At least with Gretchen’s, I could see it working for a certain market (And I’m aware I’m alone in this, at least around here.)  It wasn’t my favorite, and I think Mondo’s would have sold just as well, but I was okay with it. 

            Chloe, on the other hand, sent down a bunch of dated boring clothes.  I thought Santino’s collection was interesting, though not my style.  Daniel V’s was too basic, but very well done basics.  Either of them would have made me much happier than giving the win to those awful ’80s retreads made by a woman who had said she didn’t want any career in fashion beyond her little circle in Texas.

    • http://twitter.com/mominard Maureen Minard

      I think you are spot on, PR has gone astray, someone please show the judges/producers the way home! We need dramatic design, not dramatic designers! 

      • Anonymous

        As long as this series on Lifetime, the series is going to showcase manufactured drama over design.  This season has convinced me that that is the future of the series-forget what the original audience from the Bravo days liked, which was design.
        RIP, PR.

    • Anonymous

      “Product Runway”

      Enough said.

      • Anonymous

        LOL  Spot on!

        Or maybe…..Project RunAway.

        • Anonymous

          Hahaha.  That has a much nicer ring than “Project Delete from DVR Queue”, which is really what I’m thinking today.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll miss Bert, but I’m pleasantly surprised he made it this far. Face it, the judges are almost openly ageist; no fifty year old is ever going to win Project Runway.

      As for Queen Anya, it has become readily apparent that all which remains to be aired is her coronation. So great; a twerp with a beauty-shop-accident haircut and earrings like tennis rackets, who basically CANNOT SEW, DRAPE OR MAKE PATTERNS, is considered to be the next big designer. Perhaps she can compete next season on Top Chef  and show off her frozen entree reheating skills.

      • BerlinerNYC

        I’m actually a (slightly guilty?) Anya fan, but your post still had me laughing my ass off.:-)

      • Anonymous

        Hilarious! I would love to see Tom Colicchio demolish her.

        • Anonymous

          And Gail Simmons, unlike Heidi (like Anya, a winner of the genetic lottery), wouldn’t be falling for “I just learned how to make fondant last weeekkkkk!”

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          That would be a thing of beauty. Tom can cut somebody with just a look. He has a talent that would make Michael Kors die from envy.

          • Anonymous

            Top Chef has one advantage over PR-if the food tastes bad, no amounat of BS can cover that up.

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              To paraphrase Kenley, “I wasn’t going for GOURMET, Gail.”

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Yep. Although it would be a hoot to see her try to talk her way onto the show.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Now that sorta hurts my feelings — I can’t make patterns (though I can sew and drape, I just don’t use patterns) and I wear enormous earrings and my hair is frequently colors that could be described as “accidental” (the only chemistry I’ve ever enjoyed!).  There’s nothing wrong with any of that!

        ;)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1380079551 Marie Dees

      I had this feeling early on that Bert was leaving and I was sad through the whole episode. His dress just didn’t work this week. But being in Bert’s generation myself, I wouldn’t blame it all in inflexibility. I think he might just have been a little weary from jumping through reality show hoops. I’ll miss him.

      • Anonymous

        I had the same feeling too!  He seemed weary of it all.  But…perhaps he accomplished what he set out to do.  Shake off the cobwebs, re-establish his reputation in the business, get his work out there (Piperlime dress) and show at Bryant Park (even if he is not in the final three – it seems to me a lot of people who make a difference in the biz will see his work.)

        Hell, he is only a couple of years older than me, and I was getting weary!  Maybe he felt it was time to leave the playground and go have a drink with the adults.

    • Heather Kaplin

      You know, despite the VALID criticisms (and the producer manipulation which I couldn’t always see because I know very little about fashion), I still was enjoying the show. I still like watching them be creative and put something together. I am OK with minimal drama, but to me, the intrigue of the show was the creativity and the fashion, not the inter-personal drama. There’s a reason I don’t watch Real Housewives of or Jersey Shore, or needs a date.

      But after last week’s “Let’s throw in another look to save Anya” fiasco, and this week’s “It’s 1 look, it’s 2 looks… actually we don’t like where it’s going, so 1 look”, I’m starting to get fed up.  I know it is the reality of life that people always have their “favorites’, and sometimes the best person slips under the radar — but it’s the blatant and unfair manipulation that just frustrates me.

      The after-show just pissed me off, I couldn’t watch more than 5 minutes of it.

      For the first time, I may consider stopping watching. But damnit I still enjoy watching them make clothes… grrr!

      • Anonymous

        I enjoy watching them make clothes also, but last night we were hardly allowed to see any of that. It was 98% trashtalk/Kimberly drama and maybe 2% design and creation.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I think the one thing that almost saved this episode from the trash heap was the amount of time spent in the workroom. And I was fine with the Kimberly drama because it just happened on its own. No one manufactured it. She was exhausted and discouraged and, what with the stain on her dress and sewing her own damn finger and burning a hole in her dress, had probably her worst day since she arrived. Then she received one of Tim’s Magic Hugs. And made it into the top 3. That’s good stuff.

          • Anonymous

            Oh I believe her drama was real, it was just insanely boring. I really don’t need to spend time staring at the bathroom door with the soundtrack of her crying behind it, or watch her jump on tables with her roach phobia. Yes, they were in the workroom a lot, but they sure weren’t doing much work that was interesting to watch. And with the edit she was getting, you just knew it was going to be another triumph-over-tragedy scenario. It was just like the Anya Triumphs Over All episode the time before; it was just someone else’s turn.

            I guess my problem is that I abhor reality shows; I don’t watch any of them–except for this one that used to have a veneer of creativity attached to it. I just don’t see it anymore.

      • Anonymous

        The thing is, even in the old Bravo days, they had conflict! They didn’t create it, it just happened, as it will and should. BM has tried to cast ‘personalities’ hoping to have conflict–that is obvious–but if they honestly picked 12 people based on designs alone, someone is bound to lose it and run into the bathroom at some people no matter who is there. You put people into that situation, working 20 hours a day, having to be creative, eat from the craft services table, and someone is going to blow a hissy fit. I wish they’d realize it and actually cast wonderful designers and let things happen. Because they will anyway. When they try to create conflict it doesn’t always work. Maybe they were hoping that owl would lay his beak into some designers arm or something, that kind of thing. But it didn’t.
        Remember Santino, Vincent, et all? They were good (well, that’s objective) designers and crazy shit happened. Because it will Think of your own job or office–there is the nosy one, the bully, the guy who won’t ever take the blue paper out of the copier when he’s finished with it so when you run your pleading it prints on blue paper…you always get them. That’s why The Office is so brilliant, because every character there is in every office everywhere.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Uncle Nick had a mini-breakdown in his season, and he was wonderful.  I miss him…

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAMNQMUGFM4NNSPAQLZRODSD5I Angela

          I want my thtapler!

    • Anonymous

      I did not even make it 5 minutes into the aftershow. It was like trying to cram a meal into your stomach after you’ve already thrown up.

      It seems that Anya the PR Grifter, always gets graded on a curve, a big one. Can’t do sleeves? That’s OK, she’s only been sewing 4 months. Can’t insert zipper or closures? No problema, she’s only been sewing 4 weeks. Armholes different sizes? God bless her, she’s only been sewing 4 hours. Lost her money? Poor sweet plucky girl. She’s only been sewing 4 minutes; let’s redesign the challenge for her. Meanwhile, nobody else seems to benefit from any kind of curve at all.

      I simply do not see how a garment that has no form of entry–or exit–qualifies in any way as a winning design for a garment. Not to mention that it doesn’t even fit particularly well. But that’s OK, she’s only been sewing for like 4 seconds and she does have a fauxhawk.

      Good luck to Bert. He never belonged with the children, the hysterics or the scam artist to begin with. I hope he does well.

      • Anonymous

        It is especially galling when you consider that it was an old-school couture tradition to cleverly conceal the opening of a dress, within a pleat or a seam in the side, under the collar, etc. That took fabulous skill.

        Today’s PR standards are such that we award someone who cannot even devise an actual opening. What has happened to this show that I used to love?

      • Anonymous

        Viktor called her out on that in the aftershow. He said something to the effect of well, if I made a pair of pants, the judges would be like meh, Viktor made a pair of pants, but if Anya made a pair of pants, they would be like, oh Anya, you made pants and you’ve only been sewing four months.

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        Yes a thousand times yes.  Anya’s real talent is as a PR grifter – ha!

    • http://profiles.google.com/drunkenhousewife Drunken Housewife

      I’m a birdlover and owner, so I was excited to see a bird challenge.  And as someone who knows birds, I laughed uproariously when Michael Kors scolded Bert for “not having any of the exuberance and joy” of the Amazon parrot in his dress.  Bitches, I have lived with an identical yellow-headed Amazon parrot for over a decade, and I am here to testify that it is a bird lacking in exuberance and joy.  My Amazon is typical; they are dark and cranky animals.  IT IS A DOUR AND VENGEFUL CREATURE, MOTIVATED BY DARK PASSIONS, pretty feathers notwithstanding.  (Although I must admit it does have creepy human-pet orgasms by rubbing up on my husband’s shoulder occasionally, but it looks more like hate sex than anything).   

      • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

        ” IT IS A DOUR AND VENGEFUL CREATURE, MOTIVATED BY DARK PASSIONS…” 

        Thank you for my afternoon hilarity break. I should get one of these creatures, they sound just like the men I’m typically attracted to.

        • http://profiles.google.com/drunkenhousewife Drunken Housewife

          Thank you, everyone, who enjoyed my explanation of why Michael Kors was so asinine sounding when he scolded Bert for leaving out “the exuberance and joy” of a yellow-headed Amazon parrot.  Incidentally our Amazon actually tried to kill me last year when I was on crutches.  Sensing its opportunity in my weakness, it leaped on me and was biting me like mad, while I was shaking a crutch at it and screaming, “GETITOFFME GETITOFFME.”  (And if you like reading people writing about mean parrots, browse my blog, http://www.drunkenhousewife.com, sometime).

          But not all birds are vicious!  I also own an African Grey parrot, who is as sweet as pie.

      • Anonymous

        That was a pretty brilliant commentary!  And you are so right about the personality of the parrot!

      • http://masquedbunny.tumblr.com masquedbunny

        Your description of your cranky Amazon parrot has me laugh-crying. Thank you for this.

      • Anonymous

        I’m biting the inside of my cheek to keep from braying aloud, because I’m at work, darn it. Oh, this made my morning. DOUR AND VENGEFUL CREATURE is going to become a catchphrase of mine, I can smell it already. Thanks for giving me a swell laugh.

      • muzan-e

         A DOUR AND VENGEFUL CREATURE, MOTIVATED BY DARK PASSIONS

        … may I borrow for my personal catchphrase? I’ll use it faithfully for years. Because it is perfection. *g*

        • Anonymous

          it’s become my facebook status today.

      • Anonymous

        Damn, I wish Bert knew this about that bird and used it on the runway to explain the gray!

      • Anonymous

        HaHaHaHa…….AND….you commentary could actually justify a Bert win.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

        Exactly! My friend has both an Amazon parrot and an umbrella cockatoo, and the dresses on the runway did not evoke those birds in any way, except for Bert’s. I completely felt for him getting stuck with the parrot. OUt of those birds, it is the one I would want to avoid. The cockatoo ones were especially off the mark to me. However, it’s not like the designers were given the time to get to know the real personalities and quirks of the birds, only their basic look.

      • Anonymous

        Love your post!

        Maybe Bert had a parrot and knows they are mean, dark little creatures.  He should have won then, as he is the only one who got the challenge!  :0)
         

      • Anonymous

        Love your post!

        Maybe Bert had a parrot and knows they are mean, dark little creatures.  He should have won then, as he is the only one who got the challenge!  :0)
         

      • Anonymous

        Thank you, I was going to post that last night. Parrots are mean spirited hateful creatures and they will bite your finger off after you collapse exhausted on the floor from 72 hours off horrid screeching.

        • Anonymous

          AND they have the nerve to most likely outlive you!

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        I love you!!

      • Anonymous

        We lived with a Moluccan Cockatoo (same kind as in the challenge) for a number of years. They are a much more joyful and exhuberant bird than the Amazon. They exhuberantly screech like tortured children – because they’re HAPPY! or SAD! or LONELYYYY! They exhuberantly dismantle anything they get near. (Our accounted for six locks, four keyboards, a kitchen floor, wooden wall paneling, 2 phones, and a set of curtains before he was done.) They can be incredible love-bunnies, sprawling in your lap to have their tummies tickled, but they can also break your nose by complete accident while trying to climb on your head.

        An appropriate cockatoo dress should be something loud and deconstructed. Especially the deconstructed part.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

          Sounds like a job for Santino.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        The Accidental Housewife bows to the Drunken Housewife.

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: And even though we’ve joked all season about her being a dangerously manipulative beauty queen”

      Yep, that type of girl knows, very well, how to be nasty with a smile. She’s no better than Josh. The only difference between them the wheels in her head grind more discreetly. But she is a user who likely learned, at a very young age, that her looks were good camouflage for her games.

      –GothamTomato

      • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

        The wheels in her head are so discreet that she has to wear them dangling from her ears.

      • Anonymous

        I take it as a rule of thumb to never, ever trust anyone who competes or has competed in the pageant world.  It’s filled with users and takers who know exactly what they need to do to get ahead, just prettied up for the cameras with some lip gloss and the phoniest smiles ever seen.

    • http://twitter.com/CestmoiLola CestmoiLola

      TLo, you’re awesome – not only for the kicker ‘Nevermore’ that fits the challenge, but the fact that Poe died on this day in 1849. How fitting.

      Scotty F – my condolences. But I’m pretty sure Mr. Keeter will be better off. That’s hard to say about the rest of the motley crew left.

      For the first time ever, I’m glad I stopped watching the show when I did. And that makes me kind of sad.

    • Anonymous

      I was saddened by Bert’s lack of effort (as it appeared to me).  The idea of hiding and peek-a-boo-ing the color could have worked but it was done weakly.    A more vibrant design or a more vibrant color palate – there was no way you can get away with both being dull
      I am sad that Drama Vortex of evil’s dress looks like it could have come from a Bert collection (w/o the shoulder schmatta(sp?)).. and it was not done by Bert.

      I thought Anya’s looked like it had potential while it was on the dress form but yuk,  It looks like it was “inspired” by the black dress with the weird shoulder/cap sleeves in the earlier challenge.     I agree that the first one might have been better.

      The manipulations were pathetic.   As IS Josh and that bs on the after show

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Cleary/1201575213 Patrick Cleary

      Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your assessment of Laura on Twitter and in this entry. I think she was a classless blowhard who should have shut up after the first time Josha refused to answer her question. Yes, he was annoying, but she went straight into Andy Cohen-inspired “Real Housewives” fighting style when she insisted that she was somehow different and noble and speaking for THE PEOPLE when she demanded to know why he was so mean.

      Laura, you came in third in this show many seasons ago, and you’ve milked a low-level reality TV and blogging career out of it. Stop acting like you’re some sort of official spokesperson for everyone else. Good lord. 

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know if I agree with your language, but I definitely agree with your sentiment.  I don’t care who Laura Bennett is or who she “represents.”  There are some questions that don’t deserve an answer.  And if you are going to attack someone about their emotional response to the death of someone close, you don’t deserve to ask any questions at all.

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          I think her point is that many people have had people close to them die and don’t use that as an excuse for bullying mean behavior toward specific individuals.  She did not minimize or deny his emotions about his mother’s death.

      • Anonymous

        I couldn’t agree with this more.  After watching the after show, I skimmed all of her blogs, and found this gem in one of them:

        “I have always been realistic about ‘Project Runway.’ When fans tell me, ‘I hate all the drama, I just watch it for the fashion’ I remind them that as great as ‘Project Runway’ is, the show is not really about finding the next great fashion designer. If it were, there would be a lot of new famous and successful designers out there, and I doubt that even three of the previous eight season winners are still in the business.”

        Seriously?  I have no idea what Laura is doing these days, other than blogging for Lifetime and showing up at events, but most of the winners are doing quite well for themselves, including the winner of Laura’s season.  Many of the runners-up have fairly successful careers as well.  She seems kind of bitter.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Dilettantes are bitter people.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I wouldn’t describe her as a dilettante necessarily.  She had a successful architecture career that she left to go into fashion.  But I don’t know that a line was really what she was looking for — her stuff was so narrow in focus that a line wouldn’t perform terribly well.  I think maybe she wanted more of the commentary kind of thing to begin with.

            And when she says that previous winners haven’t done well, she means by the standard of “next great American designer”.  The only one even CLOSE to approaching that is Christian.  None of the others are really getting any kind of major recognition, which would be the goal for the “next great American designer”.  Doing some red carpet dresses for Meryl Streep or setting up a buyer meeting through Joe Zee isn’t quite the same thing. 

            The show clearly HASN’T launched most of these people to the level of established designer — they’re all still firmly in the “struggling designer” niche. 

            (Though 3 out of 8 still in business isn’t accurate AT ALL I assumed it was a figure of speech.)

            • Anonymous

              Without getting into the discussion of Laura personally (I am not going there), I have to agree about the success, or lack thereof, of Project Runway designers. Sad to say, as “the search for the next big fashion designer”, the show has been a complete failure.

              Several designers have been moderately successful, often as bigger fish in the same pond (e.g. Chloe and, for the most part, Jeffrey), but Christian is the closest the show has ever come and will ever come to fulfilling its tag line.

              I can’t say I know that much about the relative success of Project Runway designers, but it seems to me that it’s generally more than they had before PR and a lot less than PR promises. Even minor things for a “big fashion designer” have been elusive:
              e.g. Of the 120 or so contestants from previous seasons of Project Runway, how many showed at NY Fashion Week last month?

              I think the answer is three: Christian, Irina, and Malan – to my knowledge, the only three who have consistently done so. (I hope I’m wrong and that there are many I’m unaware of, but it is a small hope.)

          • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

            Anya is a dilettante actually. I wouldn’t call her bitter.  Cagey, maybe.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Yeah, good call on Anya, for being a dilettante and for her caginess.  RE: bitterness. I was mostly being a smart ass, but I have met some who are bitter. They usually have no talent for or actual abiding interest in whatever thing they’ve seized upon. It’s more about gaining a little bit of power, or making themselves look good.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              And some of them are bitter because they have just enough talent to be decent at something but not enough to really make it, and they are desperately unhappy as a result.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Yes. That’s the other facet of their bitterness (if they are bitter).

      • Anonymous

        I agree with this as well. Josh very politely refused to answer her question so she should have left it there. She’s just making herself part of the story by being so aggressive. It was a very tasteless display. 

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Can we be friends?

        “she went straight into Andy Cohen-inspired “Real Housewives” fighting
        style when she insisted that she was somehow different and noble and
        speaking for THE PEOPLE when she demanded to know why he was so mean.”

        I wouldn’t mind demanding to know why she’s so mean.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Well, and she was hardly Little Miss Sunshine herself when she was on.  I will give her credit for being upfront, but she said some mighty catty things.  (And I still thinking the cheating accusation against Jeffery was bullshit;  yeah, he was an ass, but she not only had no evidence whatsoever, she COULDN’T have any evidence so what was the point?  It just made her look small)

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            Yes, it did make her look small. And petty. What really got to me was when Jeffrey said she had questioned his integrity and she said she hadn’t. It was even more absurd than Josh trying to convince Becky that “dowdy” wasn’t an insult.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Not only that, but do you remember Jeffery’s work space at home?  The frigging warehouse with top of the line equipment?  Uh yeah, that is going to make a GIANT difference in construction level.  I always felt like Jeffery did on the show the EXACT thing Laura admitted to (and in fact, said was an advantage for self-taught designers):  finished garments only as much as they needed to walk the runway and pass the judges’ inspection.  I certainly wouldn’t bother to line unless lining was needed for the material to hang well.

    • http://twitter.com/magnetgirl Anika

      If Bert had gotten the owl, he could’ve won. 

      • Anonymous

        I was thinking the cockatoo would have been ideal for both Bert and Josh. 

      • Anonymous

        I was thinking the cockatoo would have been ideal for both Bert and Josh. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Or the Raven.  Either would have been a better fit for him.

        This challenge really wasn’t something that was in his wheelhouse AT ALL, though.  I mean, when you think Halston, do you think “Parrot”?  ‘Cause I really don’t….

    • Anonymous

      I love you guys! Well said.

      And the Raven at the end…pure poetry. :)

    • Anonymous

      I really liked Anya’s dress. Yes I think the judges overrate her but I thought this was the bets outfit on the runway. I dont think she’s a great designer owing to her narrow POV, but I do think she has talent and ideas and could serve well on a design team

      As for Anya the person I am kind of neutral. I guess with all the BS drama earlier this season, I kind of dont care. I will say this for Anya. She and Bert handled themselves with composure and civility when called out and confronted on their behavior on the After Show. I can respect Anya for at least acknowledging that the other contestants had a right to be upset.

      She may be a game player, may be manipulative, but she’s a helluva lot more mature than Josh. Josh I do believe has his good, positive side, but he did himself no favors. It was naive at best to think they were going to get to gang up on Anya and yet not address his bad behavior

      • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

        I liked her designs last week and didn’t have too much trouble with her winning, and generally I like her stuff, but THIS week I don’t get it. I thought Kim’s was the best dress. 

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I don’t get it either. It’s not, to my eyes, aesthetically pleasing. I think Kimberly or Viktor should have won, preferably Viktor, because his was better constructed.

          • Anonymous

            but unfortunately, they set it up where only Kimberly or Viktor could do well since they had to go head-to-head. Ridiculous. And you saw the comment the judges made. They LIKED Viktor’s gown, they just had to choose between the two. Just bullshit.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Totally agree. Competing head-to-head sounds great until you think about it for a minute or so. Then you realize that the weaker of one pair might actually be one of the best of the lot. Bullshit indeed.

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t think Bert’s dress was fab, but it wasn’t the worst offering out there by a long shot. I’m sorry to see him go, because he brought much needed humor, maturity and gravitas to the proceedings. It sounded to me like he wanted out, having lasted long enough to meet his aim. I wish him all success. His stuff has a natural grace I really like.

      Quite frankly, I’m now pretty sure the fix has been in from early on. The casting for types was too pat, the judging has been too skewed, Tim Gunn has been too marginal, the manipulation too obvious… I think Lifetime and BM have sucked the joy out of Project Runway. I’m surprised that Kors and Garcia would sell out their fashion cred to this extent, but it looks like they have. I lost a ton of respect for them last season, but it’s all gone now. I now see them as spokesmodels for the PR machine.

      The aftershow was a new low. PR was the only thing I watched on Lifetime, and now I think I’ll just follow it here with you guys rather than waste my time in front of the tube.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

        Bert went because he doesn’t have much drive. He’s got ability but I don’t think he ever really wanted to be a fashion name.

        • Anonymous

          I think he wants to be a fashion name, but maybe not a PR winner,/celebrity name. Some of the others like Anya and Josh seem t have a great deal of drive for exactly that.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I could see him being much happier as a head designer or close to it for someone else’s label.  I don’t know that he’d really want to deal with all the public bullshit associated with being a top name himself.

    • Anonymous

      Brilliant ending to that post!!

      I will miss Bert.  Even though he is stuck in the Halston era I did enjoy listening to him discuss design.  I wish him all the best.  Now I will look forward to the cat fight between Clinique and Anya…

      • Anonymous

        He actually was very good at discussing his and others’ designs.  He really discussed Josh’s deign very well (noting as positive what the judges ended up linking–shape and draping–wand what they ended up not linking–stupid flower thing).  He gave other folds some comments this episode as well.  He would make a really good mentor.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I’d like to see him come back as a guest judge. That would be a treat.

          • Anonymous

            Oh yes, he would be great at that.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        No such thing as the Halston era.  Halston was fabulous and trancends era.  ;)

    • http://twitter.com/EBarkenbush Ellen Barkenbush

      Oh Bert, you stately raven of the saintly days of yore. I don’t  know how I’ll get through the rest of the season without stories of getting your job in the balcony at Studio 54. I will surely have to quaff some kind nepenthe to drown out the mean girl/drama vortex hideousness.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1007327979 Sara Frankart Finn

      Thanks guys, now I can just go delete After the Runway from my DVR. So tired of drama, just get back to the fashion!

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/dLUE.9h6zdoHMLprP6AQrSQpKt0CZys-#e58b4 tom

      The only good thing left about this show is it allows me to thumb thru Neiman’s and Bloomie catalogues while watching.  I am able to yell at the screen and point “This is how it’s  done. bitch”.  Naturally a half a bottle of Stoli adds to fun.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Stoli makes so many things better. And don’t you wish they could hear you when you yell at the TV? I find it most discouraging that they can’t.

        • Anonymous

          OK, the convo between the two of you needs to continue, because this is sheer brilliance.

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            It’s the Stoli talking.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Yell louder. 

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            I CAN DO THAT!

    • Terence Ng

      Seriously. The after-show is just a great way to collect and concentrate the venom and toxins of the reality aspect of the show. It’s so bad for your health.

      And kudos to Laura Bennett. I thought she was a bitch (and she probably is), but Josh proved just how much of an immature, vacuous, twit he is.

      “Isn’t wrong for you to call me out on my bullying because that’s just bullying me for being a bully?”

      Queen, please.

      That whole segment should have been called “When Terrible People Are Confronted With The Reality That They Are Terrible People”. He react like you would expect a person that vacuous to react. “Criticizing my bullying behavior to others, is just bullying me, so you’re just as wrong for calling me out as I am for being a mean girl to other people.” (BTW, isn’t great how everything is now called ‘ahting’ or ‘bullying’ to claw one’s way up to a moral high ground?)

      It was sweet of Victor to try to parlay Josh’s character flaws as survival tactics of being gay men in this impersonal and faceless heteronormative society, but honey, even I was offended. That kind of reasoning just makes gay men look bad, and thank God Laura put it right out there that Victor didn’t act that way (nor did several other former contestants, like Daniel or Nick). Being an out gay man doesn’t give us excuses to be sociopathic and interpersonally inept.

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      Re giving help. What happened to X when they got help from Y? In some cases, X won or at least was safe while Y was out (this happened with the two gals who did chiffon, as I recall, as well as with Anya and Anthony Ryan in the last episode). Of course, when Anya helped Kimberley by giving her fabric it landed Kimberley in the bottom… I might need to re-watch but my impression is that Anya did not use the extra fabric that everybody gave her last episode. She used her $11 of fabric plus the muslin. I think she has the right to change her mind about help and giving fabric. I actually like Anya and I think she is growing a lot during the show, which is nice to see. On the other hand, I think she has won several challenges that should have gone to others.
      And Bert was right (in the after-show) that Josh did better without any extra fabric (especially black, which would have given him Halloween). 

    • zoe p.

      I’ve never commented at TLo before but I honestly think that Anya’s ugliest moment was on Ep 10 when she backpedaled on the “pact” that she had made with Laura and Kimberly, and didn’t give Kimberly the heads up that her designs were headed in the wrong direction. Anya figured if she left Kimberly alone, Kimberly might wind up at the bottom, rather than herself.

      And that’s the worst from a whole pile of ugly moments, sartorially and otherwise . . .

      • Anonymous

        EXACTLY.

    • Anonymous

      So many thoughts: 1) I get the impression that ‘feathers’ or feather-like attachments are what the judges deemed to be too literal. So, since Anya didn’t have any feathers, she was deemed not literal. 2) I liked Anya’s winning dress, but was more interested in the other one just because that fabric was beautiful. 3) I didn’t care so much that she wouldn’t help Josh…because I don’t think anybody should help him…ever. 4) Bert…I really loved the hiding the bright colors and think if he’d used another fabric for the bustier – even though dated – he wouldn’t have been auf’d. And, I’m sorry to see him go.

      As for  After The Runway – what a train wreck! 1) The hosty girly needs a different chair or longer skirts – VERY awkward perch she has. 2) Gotta love Laura for getting to the heart of the Josh matter. I’m sure there’s a clinical explanation for Josh’s personality disorder, I’ll just call him a narcissistic asshole. He’s the type of person I run from. He can dish it out, can’t take it – and when somebody calls him out on his unacceptable behavior, he goes on the attack – vicious attack – thus proving the caller-outers point. I hope he matures at some point, but I do not hold out much hope. Having said all of that, there is absolutely no reason for this show other than what T Lo says – to stir shit up. *sigh*

      Finally – I’m guessing T Lo started the entire premise of this post by writing that last line. Sublime.

    • Anonymous

      Anya wins, Bert gets the auf’d. No surprises here except…yawn!!  Oh, there was the usual BM induced drama; Kimberly suffered a mini break-down and Tim Gunn Hugged her out of it, Viktor once again accuses someone of cheating/copying his  Glamazing work, Laura again produces fug and acts surprised that it’s recognized as FUG and Josh ??… Oh, Drama V lived up to his name and  was a  Big Fat Baby on PR and on the After Show! Nothing new to see here, move it along people! At this point, I just want PR to be over!!

    • Janet Rae Montgomery

      THAT’s the best you have to say when Josh attacked Laura for, among other things, being older than him?!!!?? Seriously.  Poor poor Josh (to paraphrase Laura), he’s a nasty bitch and a back biter and only he has any problems in this world.  Hope he goes soon, not least for lashing out at Laura just for saying what everybody is thinking.  And Anya keeps rubbing his leg, like — go Laura, attack him, not me, because I am an even bigger bitch and everybody knows it now.  I’m hating on those 2 as people.  Explain to me why Josh didn’t go because his dress looked like the Halloween pumpkin leaf bags everybody puts on the their front lawn this time of year and made that model look like she weighed 200 pounds (and was in a biggest pumpkin contest herself).  Why does he think his shit don’t stink?

    • Janet Rae Montgomery

      THAT’s the best you have to say when Josh attacked Laura for, among other things, being older than him?!!!?? Seriously.  Poor poor Josh (to paraphrase Laura), he’s a nasty bitch and a back biter and only he has any problems in this world.  Hope he goes soon, not least for lashing out at Laura just for saying what everybody is thinking.  And Anya keeps rubbing his leg, like — go Laura, attack him, not me, because I am an even bigger bitch and everybody knows it now.  I’m hating on those 2 as people.  Explain to me why Josh didn’t go because his dress looked like the Halloween pumpkin leaf bags everybody puts on the their front lawn this time of year and made that model look like she weighed 200 pounds (and was in a biggest pumpkin contest herself).  Why does he think his shit don’t stink?

      • http://twitter.com/evergreen_g G and G

        I know right? I skipped the episode and watched that “After the Runway” trash and all that leg rubbing that Anya did just proved to me how two-faced that woman is.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vienna-Marriott/100001636120960 Vienna Marriott

        Laura has always been a bitch.  Fuck her.

        • Anonymous

          Mr Marriott – It is hard to take this as a serious criticism.  You seem to hate and make misogynistic comments all the time.   And it is not the first time you’ve painted a bulls eye on Ms. B.   

          What part -exactly – of what Laura said/asked is not true?  Hmm? 

    • Anonymous

      Overall, I thought the looks were better than the total dreck of last week.  $20 K must be a motivator.
      Thanks for the screencaps TLo as I can see details in the sea of black.  And Laura and Anya were wearing black too.
      I turned off the aftershow after 5 minutes – ugh.

    • Anonymous

      Overall, I thought the looks were better than the total dreck of last week.  $20 K must be a motivator.
      Thanks for the screencaps TLo as I can see details in the sea of black.  And Laura and Anya were wearing black too.
      I turned off the aftershow after 5 minutes – ugh.

    • Anonymous

      God, I love this blog.  Quoth the raven…  Way to go, guys!

      The crazy bouncing ball of BM manipulation made it hard to watch this episode–or to care who won.  So I really don’t give a shit. But I do agree that the fix is in for Sex Tape Pageant Girl, although I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why. She’s just an Uli wannabe with good instincts for competition.

      As for Bert’s design, I didn’t find it either sad or drab or dingy. I’m a big fan of grey, and I thought the skirt, with the underlayers of color, was quite lovely. Not innovative enough to win (as if innovation had anything to do with which one of these pathetic excuses for designers wins a challenge), but certainly not the loser. The loser was clearly Ozark Barbie, who made the most sickening pair of pants since Pancake Face made his stretch-plaid ones. The fact that she didn’t get sent home just shows how far up their butts the BM producers’ heads are–as if a couple more weeks of the bland stupidity that is Ozark Barbie would be more entertaining than a couple more weeks of Bert.

      Idiots. Just fucking idiots.

      • Rebecca Zmarzly

        Having grown up three hours south of St. Louis, I have to say that “Ozark Barbie” made me laugh out loud. Although “West County Bitch Barbie” is probably more accurate.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Yes! I said in the TLounge (I think. I might have said it over at the AV Club) that there’s no way Laura can be more entertaining than Bert. Come on. The guy’s been around the block more than a few times, he has a great backstory, he’s funny, and he somehow became a calming influence for even the craziest designers. Without Laura, Bert would still be the same person. Without Bert, Laura has no one to confuse the hell out of her and irritate her when he outshines her yet again. She’s just a wet noodle with too much self esteem.

    • Anonymous

      God, I love this blog.  Quoth the raven…  Way to go, guys!

      The crazy bouncing ball of BM manipulation made it hard to watch this episode–or to care who won.  So I really don’t give a shit. But I do agree that the fix is in for Sex Tape Pageant Girl, although I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why. She’s just an Uli wannabe with good instincts for competition.

      As for Bert’s design, I didn’t find it either sad or drab or dingy. I’m a big fan of grey, and I thought the skirt, with the underlayers of color, was quite lovely. Not innovative enough to win (as if innovation had anything to do with which one of these pathetic excuses for designers wins a challenge), but certainly not the loser. The loser was clearly Ozark Barbie, who made the most sickening pair of pants since Pancake Face made his stretch-plaid ones. The fact that she didn’t get sent home just shows how far up their butts the BM producers’ heads are–as if a couple more weeks of the bland stupidity that is Ozark Barbie would be more entertaining than a couple more weeks of Bert.

      Idiots. Just fucking idiots.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCLO5V2YD36T7QMPKOC7YXPOFU Erica

      Let’s face it, the Fashion Savant is FASCINATING.  She is so good at this game, you can’t even see the seams in her game–unlike her clothes.  The judges love her, the other contestants love her (maybe not Josh, but everybody hates him anyway), and evidently from what I’ve read here, the viewers love her for fan favorite on the Lifetime website.  So Viktor doesn’t help her, she’s still nice to him in her Anya way, and he ends up looking at little pissy for not giving her fabric that she won’t use anyway.  Forget fashion, she needs to go into politics.  I haven’t seen this level of ability in getting other people to willingly give you what you want since my little sister was 6 years old.

      • Anonymous

        No, not necessarily. Anya is just the most talked about on Twitter, which gives her a higher percentage for “fan favorite” (each tweet counts). Shoot, she’d be ahead if they used TLo comments and counted her name, probably. Bert would be second.

        Heck yeah she’s good at the game, and I agree totally with you on that. I just don’t get it. I never drank the Anya Kool-Aid, though. I thought she was good but I questioned her getting in from day one. I wish that Gunner Deathrage had made the cut over her. But, hindsight…still, doubt they would have done that.

    • http://twitter.com/karenwalsh Karen Walsh

      Yes, the raven has signaled doom for us all.  We have several more weeks of the Anya and Josh show in store.  Jumped. The. Shark. Y’all.

      • Anonymous

        That beautiful owl. He had to get locked in his cage and treked across town for them to choose the other 3. Why were there 4 birds to begin with? I actually thought when Tim came in with his twist it would be “create a second look using the 4th bird” but no…they probably didn’t think about it. I hope the owl bit his keeper for making him go to that.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          The owl would have been my first choice — I would have done a structured coat  with a pattern similar to the pattern on the owl’s feathers.  I love a coat in a print that’s still neutral enough to be wearable.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          An albatross would have made more sense.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I kept thinking that there were several designers who could have been reasonably paired with a seagull — preferably the ones from Finding Nemo:  “Mine.  Mine.  Mine.  Mine.”

    • Lori

      ‘Weak and weary”, “Nevermore.”   My Edgar Allen Poe finger puppet is nodding furiously in agreement. 

      • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

        While we are nodding off over the designs…

      • Anonymous

        I”m loving the idea of an Edgar Allan Poe finger puppet!

    • Lori

      ‘Weak and weary”, “Nevermore.”   My Edgar Allen Poe finger puppet is nodding furiously in agreement. 

    • http://twitter.com/TheRealAndra Andra

      The Anya tongue baths are so tiresome. 

    • http://twitter.com/TheRealAndra Andra

      The Anya tongue baths are so tiresome. 

    • Anonymous

      I think Anya didn’t use her first look because Tim pointed out that the armholes were uneven. (So I do believe she’s only being really sewing for months – if you look closely at her work and take away the help she’s gotten from the other contestants you can see it.)

      I thought for sure Laura was going to get the auf.

    • Anonymous

      I think Anya didn’t use her first look because Tim pointed out that the armholes were uneven. (So I do believe she’s only being really sewing for months – if you look closely at her work and take away the help she’s gotten from the other contestants you can see it.)

      I thought for sure Laura was going to get the auf.

    • Terence Ng

      As for Bert v Josh. Yeah, Josh had the better dress, which he then proceeded to fuck up with a hideous flower. I interpreted Bert’s design with the gray outer skirt and popping color as an homage to a bird’s plumage being revealed in splendor. I wonder if the skirt was longer like he wanted, if it would have opened up more and displayed the great colors underneath. It doesn’t help that it wasn’t modern, though.

      Does Laura have anything interesting to offer? It seems like a tough call–mediocre work, albeit modern vs. great work, albeit boring. They probably kept her for her trash talk.

      And as much as I hate to admit it, Raging Bitch Queen Clinique seemed to have a point about Anya’s dress. If she has to be cut out of it every single time, are they marketable pieces? Or just art? And what will she do when she has to do all these pieces herself?

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        They’re still marketable — because the pattern for production would have a hidden zipper.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        It looked like Tim had him take it off at some point during the consultation. Of course he put it back on, just more embellished. Still Mother Of The Bride to me!

    • Terence Ng

      As for Bert v Josh. Yeah, Josh had the better dress, which he then proceeded to fuck up with a hideous flower. I interpreted Bert’s design with the gray outer skirt and popping color as an homage to a bird’s plumage being revealed in splendor. I wonder if the skirt was longer like he wanted, if it would have opened up more and displayed the great colors underneath. It doesn’t help that it wasn’t modern, though.

      Does Laura have anything interesting to offer? It seems like a tough call–mediocre work, albeit modern vs. great work, albeit boring. They probably kept her for her trash talk.

      And as much as I hate to admit it, Raging Bitch Queen Clinique seemed to have a point about Anya’s dress. If she has to be cut out of it every single time, are they marketable pieces? Or just art? And what will she do when she has to do all these pieces herself?

    • G Spencer

      Anya is a manipulative bitch! She plays the role of “exotic snake” quite well..  But she is a pretty face for tv and magazines, and even though she can’t sew, she is going to win the whole thing, cause she has the face for it.
       
      Joshua, has serious troubles. This poor soul needs a few years of therapy…and I am not saying “poor soul” because of his mother, and money issues…blah, blah. I say ‘poor soul’ because he is so unaware of himself, and complete denial of his own behavior… I can’t help but pity people like that.
       
      Bert, dude! You are my hero. You are not only mature, but super honest and super cool guy!!! You received a very important price! You won the viewers over!! Congrats! 
       
      Laura, your highness, would you please SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
       
      Victor, I agree with your comments about Anya 10000000000%%
       
      Kimberly, I hope you kick some ass in the next challenge.

    • G Spencer

      Anya is a manipulative bitch! She plays the role of “exotic snake” quite well..  But she is a pretty face for tv and magazines, and even though she can’t sew, she is going to win the whole thing, cause she has the face for it.
       
      Joshua, has serious troubles. This poor soul needs a few years of therapy…and I am not saying “poor soul” because of his mother, and money issues…blah, blah. I say ‘poor soul’ because he is so unaware of himself, and complete denial of his own behavior… I can’t help but pity people like that.
       
      Bert, dude! You are my hero. You are not only mature, but super honest and super cool guy!!! You received a very important price! You won the viewers over!! Congrats! 
       
      Laura, your highness, would you please SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
       
      Victor, I agree with your comments about Anya 10000000000%%
       
      Kimberly, I hope you kick some ass in the next challenge.

    • Emily Scott

      Ugh. I’ve rolled my eyes a lot this season, but this was the episode that finally pushed me over the edge. Once the top 3 was set I actually found myself pulling hard for Josh, who I find insufferable, to win. When Anya not only won but was pronounced “the clear winner,” I started bellowing to my cat (the only one in the room with me) about how bullshit this episode was. I am still bitter this morning…

      At first I liked the structure of the challenge, having designers go head to head, but I quickly saw the flaw when I realized that the top 3 would not necessarily be inhabited by the best 3 designs, and vice versa for the bottom 3. And that last minute change where they had to pick one look to show was so manipulative…okay, I have to calm down for a moment.

      The sad thing is that I really like Kimberly, and I think she should be in the final 3 along with Victor and Anya, but I was finding it hard to cheer for her this week. I can understand and sympathize with the meltdown, but from there things got a little shady. I admire that she was able to whip that dress together in 3 hours, but I thought it was WAY overpraised. I am totally over the judges rewarding decent to okay looks simply because a designer suffered some sort of misfortune. Unless they turned out something truly stunning, a designer in that situation should at most be given a free pass to safety that week.

      And what was up with Kimberly’s response when they asked about the burned dress? Earlier in the show she clearly said that she was frustrated and threw the dress down on a hot glue gun, but then on the runway it suddenly became Victor’s fault. WTF?!?

      In the long run, I’m mad because Victor has been my favorite for weeks now and is far and away the best designer in the competition. Yet, because he is not cute and warm or in possession of some devastating or triumphant backstory (I am working on a theory that he is Bizarro Mondo) I fear he will be a casualty on this increasingly unbearable game show.

      • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

        Maybe Victor was the one using the hot glue gun (to put on those feathers) and he had laid it down in Kimberley’s workspace. On the one hand, I think Viktor has been the most consistently interesting designer and I would like to see him win. On the other, I would not put it past him to set things up so that an accident could happen if Kimberley wasn’t careful. He is not cute. But he is a good designer. As someone pointed out, whether he wanted to or not he has helped Anya simply by designing interesting clothes that she had to look at.

        • Anonymous

          But if they’re both working on that table, and he was using the hot glue gun, it’s Kimberly’s fault for throwing her dress on the table like that. I like both Viktor and Kimberly, and I felt that her statement was more like a sibling saying something to another sibling, not really accusing him of anything.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know what Kimberly’s remark was all about either and it disturbed me, because I’m rooting for Victor.

        What seems apparent though, is that all of the designers are getting tired and burnt, which may help explain Kimberly’s melt down, Bert’s resignation, etc.  And has anyone noticed how tired and worn Laura is looking lately?  It must be difficult to hear week after week that she’s a tacky designer (the truth hurts).

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: Nevermore, bitches.”

      Best laugh of the week so far.

      And yes, as for Heidi (and the others) having their heads up Anya ass all season; given the way every little thing on this show is about product placement, I’m thinking that there’s a L’oreal colon cleanse coming down the pike (so to speak).

      –GothamTomato

    • Anonymous

      The “Aftershow” is a Bumin-Murray staple, used for years after the Real World and The Real World Challenge programs on MTV.  When I realized they were using the same identical format for Project Runway, I knew they had jumped the shark.  Sad.  The Challenge “aftershow” this year was hosted by the former Real World house member who has become a professional wrestler.  WHich might not be a bad idea.  After Josh fripped his way away from Laura last night, I think he needs a good body slam.

    • Anonymous

      That’s a mullet hem if ever there was one.  With atrocious lines at the neck and shoulder. The winning dress was hideous.   And some lousy styling to top it off.  I liked Bert’s dress and liked his demeanor on the dreaded apres show.  He described perfectly how stressful and insane the challenges are — the lack of time to reflect, stand back, and fit.  And LB’s only shining moment last night on the slugfest was in asking Bert about his lovely drawings.  As for being gracious and learning and making amends, Bert’s been through much much worse than this silly show and has told us as much and hinted at it too.  3rd floor blow balcony.  Love him and his pink Brooks Bros thing..

      Nevermore plus Raven shot = a big smile. Clever boys.

    • http://twitter.com/curlysooo Susan Fridy

      where is laura’s blog, by the way?

    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      Sorry but I think Anya’s “dress” is a piece of junk.  that vag fold in the front of the skirt?  WTF?
      And Bert?  it makes me sad, very sad.  Bert really?  GRAY?!!!!!!!!!!

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        It is a bunch of junk. It looks cheap and poorly constructed. Anya has designed several things that I’ve liked a lot, but this was not one of them, and it was for sure not worthy of winning.

    • http://twitter.com/MandySCG MandyJane

      When I saw Anya’s dress I kept thinking “CAW, CAW!”… bird beak dress.  I knew Bert was leaving when they showed the hair stylist rolling his eyes at him (or did I imagine that?). I was crossing my fingers that it would be Laura, her outfit was atrocious.

      I hated the after show. Just solidifies my opinion that the show is going to continue going down hill as long as LIfetime has it’s claws in it.  I think I am in Lifetime’s target demo, but I hate everything on that channel from the sappy movies to the fake reality shows (I still love PR, but my love is being sorely tested).

      • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

        “the hair stylist rolling his eyes at him (or did I imagine that?)”

        i saw that too but was wondering if i was reading too much into it. with the editing that PR does, we have no idea what the stylist was truly reacting to but i found the eye roll to be really rude. 

    • Joshua

      lol, nevermore. Awesome. Ahem, anyway, I think had Bert defended his look a little instead of flopping over and practically telling the judges he should be going home, Laura would have got the auf. But at least he was gracious and starting to work well with the other designers. He won’t leave with the legacy of a stubborn old man. Anya’s dress was quite interesting but I couldn’t get over those shoulders at all. Something about them just put me off the whole look. And it bugged me the judges shamed the bottom three for being so literal when structurally Anya’s dress was the most bird-like on the runway.

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      Bert’s dress: I used to have a cockatiel (can’t believe how long we had that cage in our TV room–it was officially my son’s pet but never became really tame). That dress was a cockatiel. I thought it was beautiful.  I don’t think an orange and green palette was ever going to make it to the advertorial, though, so he and Josh were out.

    • Anonymous

      Nevermore, indeed!

      Will someone please start the Facebook campaign to return this show to Bravo? It’s beyond saving on Lifetime and I’m truly sick of what has been done to a funny, creative show with talented people competing under the expert guidance of Mr. Gunn.

      Scotty, I am so sorry because it was clear that the PR producers [hiss] would never allow a person of his age to win or make it to the final three. Exhibit A: Gordana. So Laura scraped by with that piece of crap and Bert’s dress, which had elements of interest, got him auf’d.

      Anya and Josh I am just over. If I never heard or saw anything from them again, would be fine.

      And that after show. …where do I start? Give me MOR back with the silly models over this! the only piece that was worth viewing was Laura B (who wasn’t my choice for the win in her season) calling Josh on his bullying behaviors. And then Josh going into a further frenzy. God help his friends & family should they ever attempt an intervention with that boy!

      I do really think what has kept me watching this long has been the brilliant insights of TLo (and Lo is right on Queen Anya’s dress, IMO) and the bitter kitten community.

      srq

    • Anonymous

      It is clear Anya will win PR even though her finale collection is basically the same thing over and over again and Viktor will come in 2nd.  As to who is there with us, I don’t really care anymore, just like I’ve stopped watching PR and only read the recaps because the judging is on crack and the dresses are horrible and Josh and Olivierearere make me want to punch my TV.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      Awwwwwwwww! I did not want to see Bert go before Laura at all! Not after all the horrible comments she’s made about him, and how generous he’s been to her. He’s been pretty generous to a lot of the contestants, actually. Giving out construction advice, design advice, and so on. And I will miss his comments and grouchy mutterings most of all.

      Anya won again. Ugh. I completely understand Josh’s comments about her. I actually sympathize with him. Not because he is an amazing designer and soooooo much better than her, but I get what he’s feeling.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1303837450 Lauren Dorsee Dillon

      I could bitch and complain until the cows come home but, to me, it all comes down to one thing: Lifetime blows.

    • Joyce VG

      The best part about Project Runway?  TLo!  (love it! “Nevermore, bitches.”)

    • Anonymous

      I actually liked Bert’s dress a lot.  I thought the skirt was beautiful.  Agree that the top could have been better.  But there’s no question in my mind that between LK and Bert, LK’s look was worse.  It was boring and expected.  I’m over PR.  Onto something new.

    • Anonymous

      I’m beginning to wonder if indeed Anya does take the whole thing, will it have the same reaction of Gretchen winning? Somehow I don’t think it will be *as* intense but I certainly think it will be up there with that reaction.

      • Anonymous

        As much as I was completely immune to her designs, Gretchen could sew. Imagine crowning (operative word) someone who can’t sew as “the next great American designer!”

        • Anonymous

           PLEASE know that I am not comparing them. . .
          But I am curious as to whether all of the other famous designers CAN sew and sew well? 

          I don’t have time to do any research on this but
          From Betsey to Donatella to Calvin to hell,  Heidi and Jessica Simpson, from Lagerfeld, to OdlR  I’m just asking

          • Anonymous

            I read somewhere that Michael Kors can’t sew eiither, or at least not very well.

          • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

            Somewhere I saw Bert comment that this was the first time he’d actually made a dress, rather than designing them, since school (Parsons?).  So I guess designers at his level don’t usually sew, although I would say it all came back to him because everything he did was well-made.

            • Anonymous

              wouldn’t that be an interesting thing to have PR do–have a seamstress for the next challenge that would the the prize (instead of immunity) for winning a challenge? You could cast someone in that role, or have it be the last person aufed (or a choice of aufed designers? or a button bag draw).

            • Anonymous

              OR have them paired with a seamstress the same way they get paired with models. The winning designer can choose to keep or swap their seamstress. How come they’re not doing that with the models this season, by the way?

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Most of them do know how, including Kors himself.  However, “knowing” is a pretty wide range — Kors has said that he’s not a good sewer because he doesn’t have the patience to do it right and to put in the practice.  They don’t sew ANYTHING that goes down their runways, though.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Most of them do know how, including Kors himself.  However, “knowing” is a pretty wide range — Kors has said that he’s not a good sewer because he doesn’t have the patience to do it right and to put in the practice.  They don’t sew ANYTHING that goes down their runways, though.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          They’d be just like all other top designers?  None of those people have sewn in decades! 

    • http://masquedbunny.tumblr.com masquedbunny

      I really wanted somebody to go way over the top on this challenge. Even the looks that the judges criticized as being “too literal” were still fairly subdued. And, as some other comments have said, I wish somebody had drawn the owl.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks, guys. I was all set for you to praise the aftershow to the hilt because your friend Laura was on it.  All we needed was Andy Cohen with his battling Housewives and the vibe would have been complete. It was just the bitter icing on the manipulative cake that Product Runway has become.  And yet, we still watch. Hope springs eternal. Hey, they improved Glee this year. What I wonder about is how Tim Gunn who I regard as having the most integrity on the show manages to carry on. Really, Tim, you are much better than what you are being asked to do.

    • Ella B. Mudge

      I will admit that at the start of the show, I wanted nothing more than the cockatoo to eyeball Anya’s sundial-sized earrings and go for one of them.

      And at this point, I’m going to start considering the judging of this show as little more than scripted.  Actually, if I watched a scripted drama series that had as many inconsistencies as this show, I would deem it horribly written and stop watching it.  I can get a good-enough idea of what happened reading TLo anyway, and I too get my Thursday evenings back!  The problem is, I don’t know if I’ll watch the PR alumni show, because of the manipulative travesty this season has become.

    • Anonymous

      Here’s the thing. According to my husband, who has watched a lot more birds than I have, Bert had the best non-literal interpretation of a bird. Drab plummage is not uncommon in the bird world, normally found in males, hiding brilliant feathers underneath, only revealed when the wings/tail are spread in flight or mating rituals. Unfortunately, Bert didn’t go far enough. He needed a more dramatic reveal, more dynamic colors.

      We liked his dress in our house. And we grew to really like Bert and respect his fashion knowledge and his ability to deal with the children he was paired with. We wish him all the best, and hope this will jump start his career. Someone will be very fortunate who hires him.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

        I was kind of thinking the same thing about Bert’s dress regarding the colors and the way birds really are – if only there had been more movement that showed off the color underneath…. Unfortunately, the bird he got DIDN’T have that kind of plumage and the judges were unable to get past that. Talk about literal interpretation!

        That said, the belt? I was having a flashback to the 80’s.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        Maybe Bert knows birds. Maybe he schooled them all and it made total sense. But we will never know, thanks to the magic of editing.

    • Anonymous

      I should have seen that last screen cap coming….but I didn’t.  I love it when you make me literally LOL.  And even though I didn’t like his dress much – I’m sorry to see Burt go.

    • Anonymous

      As fabulous as Laura B. is and as much as I have disliked Clinique, I actually thought it was cruel to go after Josh in the After Show.  The guy seems to have “issues” and he is just being used now when he should be getting psychological help instead of being on PR in the first place.  He actually threatened Laura.  Yikes!  As for the others, a woman who barely sews is likely going to get the “Next Great Designer Prize”.  In the past if someone couldn’t sew they were out by the first episode, or by episode 3 if they had entertainment value.  People who put holes in garments, or stains on clothes.  Ugh!  And Viktor, who would have been in the middle of the pack in the old days, but when he does the best garment of the week is never rewarded, but instead the one with the best drama that week is.  What good designer would ever go on the show after this season?  Oh BM you have ruined one of my favorite shows.

    • Anonymous

      Nevermore, bitches.

      Oh my god. Best Poe reference ever.

    • Anonymous

      So when is the episode where they get really drunk and end up naked in the hot tub and then get into a fight because one of them admits they snorted vicodan off the other ones boyfriend’s ass and then the cops come and break up the party and the next morning the house is a mess and they have another fight over who is going to clean it up because someone ate the other person’s leftover pancakes and drank all the red bull?  
      Because it’s BM after all, yo, or shoud I say bm.

      • Anonymous

        Now see, I’d watch that!

      • http://twitter.com/CestmoiLola CestmoiLola

        You’re forgetting the part where they repeatedly drunk-dial Tim, who is making 2AM mistakes of his own….

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Tim doesn’t make 2 am mistakes… Tim is perfect… :)

    • Anonymous

      I now loathe this show. I can’t even bring myself to watch After The Runway. 

    • Joe J

      In keeping with the raven theme, next week the TLounge is having a twofer special on nepenthes for us to quaff. The better for us to forget this season.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s dress is a black sack plain and simple. And of course there are some mullet hems that are perfectly acceptable but that hem looks like the front of her dress got stuck into her knee highs.

    • Addicted2Glamour

      And Bunim/Murray continues to hammer those nails in. I too long for the days of PR just saying “make a pretty dress.”

    • Anonymous

      I know they said they’ve seen Laura’s dress “everywhere” but I think it’s more of a dated look. Anya’s dress I’ve really seen everywhere – RM Mouret, Victoria Beckham, it’s not original and I wish she’d been called out more for being derivative. 

      http://cache.theoutnet.com/images/products/26833/26833_in_l.jpg

    • muzan-e

      Just a few things:

      Bird challenge? Unsurprising!  The ‘Project Runway’ collection has been flashing its mediocre sparkle all over dimestore makeup aisles for weeks, beauty bloggers chiming in with the occasional: Birds? Runway? Huh?   *g*  I’m absolutely certain there’s been harsh words at boardroom meetings over how even the makeup artists couldn’t make those eyeshadows really work. 

      I mean, seriously: in one shot that went live, the girl’s eyelids are covered with creased, splotchy matte. What in the hell.

      Anya’s win? Insulting! To Anya. Brush aside all the competitive mean-spiritedness, and you have a girl who works hard, who studies hard, and who takes both work and study seriously. They gave her the win because she was the obvious choice for a cosmetic shoot – which is disgustingly crude. And they gave her the win because For her, this is a really good dress!

      When my five-year-old colours inside the lines and gives his cartoon characters five fingers, I tell him he’s Michelangelo. Because for him, that’s outstanding work.  That’s how you play with infants and the very young. But it’s not something you ever, ever do to an adult for whom you have any respect whatsoever. 

    • Kate Pearce

      I felt… manipulated. That they’ve already got a list of when each designer should go auf’d and they change the challenges to make that list happen. If Josh had sent down both looks or only his first one, would Bert have gone home? If Kimberley had had to put two looks out there, would she still be there? Maybe I’m cynical but I wish they’d stop jerking both me and the designers around. I was sorry to see Bert go, he has more design worthy ability in his little finger than Laura will ever have. 

    • Anonymous

      I know that they’ve said they’ve seen Laura’s dress everywhere but I think it’s just that it’s more dated. I’ve seen Anya’s dress everywhere: RM Mouret, Victoria Beckam. I wish she had been called out more as being derivative. 

      http://cache.theoutnet.com/images/products/26833/26833_in_l.jpg

      • Anonymous

        What? Anya derivative??? You go wash your mouth out with soap right now, young lady! She’s a SUPER talented young designer who has only been sewing for 40 minutes!! She’s amazing, fresh, original!

      • Anonymous

        Especially when one of the other designers (was it Anthony Ryan?) was frequently called out for being derivative early on this season.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BEV2WB3MZRJHA4KD5DK4QY6FQQ Dinah

      Awww, Bert.  

      I love owls and so I was bummed that no one got to design for Mr. Owl.  

      But THEN, I kept thinking how cruel fate was to Bert.  Just think if Josh/Bert had gotten Hoot?  Josh would have been the one at a severe earth-toned disadvantage and Bert would have had his preferred color palette and a bird with a dignified, intelligent and mature personna to be inspired by.  Woulda, coulda, shoulda.  No wonder Bert had bitterness toward his lil green bird. 

      Does anyone still think the button bag isn’t fixed???   I doubt there was any randomness involved in either the pairings or the bird selection.  

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        Oh, I am with you 100% on the button bag. It’s not even a question anymore.

      • Anonymous

        You said it. The button bag is totally fixed. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/valencia.lucia87 Lucía Valencia

      I (and I think im not the only one) don’t even watch the show anymore, I just read the TLo recaps and skip the show altogether. It’s just better for my mental health that way.

      • Anonymous

        Yup, me too. There’s just too much good TV on for me to take the trouble if the producers aren’t!

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        The Lifetime website sucks and usually stops streaming after the runway show. Which is fine, I just come straight here.

      • Anonymous

        I’m seriously considering this option, myself.

    • Anna Maria Diamanti

      This obviously means Bert’s lovely finale collection was a decoy. Add his to Kara Janx’s in the great decoys collection pile, which is a far better association that with these sub-par remaining designers.

    • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

      CRACKTACULAR. Never watching again. As someone who has been sewing for years, and initially became a fan of project runway to watch great people make incredible, off-the-wall garments, this season is so, SO disappointing to me. Anya’s construction is terrible. I don’t think she should have been there at all from the beginning. It’s now The Anya Show and I’m not having any of it. I don’t like her and I don’t like her PR machine (PR can mean both Public Relations OR Project Runway. Take your pick, because she has both working overtime in her favor.)

      This episode actually made me curse, which takes a lot to do.

      • Anonymous

        Make sure Clinique doesn’t hear you since he can’t stand cursing.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          He will not have it!!

    • http://twitter.com/noelster_sf Noel Adolph

      longing for the days when the judges weren’t aware of any ‘behind the scenes’ drama. for quite a few challenges, and especially in anya’s case, they’ve made much hay about ‘only $11′ or ‘only 3 hours’, types of things that used to make kors reply ‘we don’t care!’. aggravating and unnecessary, coupled with the idiotic personality clashes, challenge ‘twists’ and ‘outside the workroom’ moments, all of which the cast seems to be happy to go along with and more than a few of which feel like they’ve been in producer klum herself (you know, to make it more fun). 

      lifetime and bunim/murray, this is your audience, slipping away…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAMNQMUGFM4NNSPAQLZRODSD5I Angela

        Yes! Now I find myself thinking, man that Cecilia was smart to get the hell off this show, refusing to do the dumb race at all. I wonder what would happen if all the designers refused to do stupid challenges, and also, who would really win if the judges had no idea whose garment was whose when they walked the runway? Now that I’d like to see!

        • Anonymous

          Cecelia must be so relieved that she dropped out-at least she saved some small measure of personal dignity.

    • Lynn Landry

      I can’t even come up with something to add to this. Not only is this season the most whacked ever, it’s not even any fun to talk shit about it. And, when that after the runway thing came on, I turned it off within five minutes. It was just vile. And I didn’t even watch it long enough to watch the cat fight.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OLSER5H3A6FPBAZOEIQIOBHAYM Elizabeth Rust

      Re “show of hands” – yeah, I had the same thought at the time. I imagine there are real-world situations where a designer is suddenly told “you need to drop x looks before the runway show”, but the timing of this seemed suspicious. Or Was It? Perhaps it was planned all along, and the show was edited to highlight the people-who-would-benefit-from-dropping-one-look… I dunno!

      I did like the challenge, though I wish someone had had the owl (I like owls). But I noticed, not for the first time, the difficulty I have in rating a design without considering the designer, and it seems that the judges suffer from this as well. I wonder how it would work if the show opened with the runway show, showing the outfits but not the designers, perhaps allowing viewers to vote for favorites at that time, and THEN went back to the beginning to show the how-they-did-it bits and to reveal who did what. (In theory I’d like to see the judges rate the outfits without knowing the designers, but since part of the deliberations include asking the designers about their inspirations and styling choices and whatnot, that might not fly. But maybe the judges could be asked to submit votes on the outfits ahead of time, and then have to justify why they’ve changed their minds after interviewing the designers!)

    • Lynn Landry

      lol ramon! you nailed it!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BEV2WB3MZRJHA4KD5DK4QY6FQQ Dinah

      I actually preferred the whacky Models of the Runway to this Aftershow.  

      I didn’t see the Laura Bennett season of PR, I know her only from this blog.  But I kind of adore her now.  

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        Oh, you must. If only to get the references. :)

        • Anonymous

          And also because she’s fabulous. :-)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

      We should all just pack up and go home now.  Anya is winning this crappy show, no matter what she sends down the runway or what anyone else sends down the runway.  Being able to sew for 40 minutes is winner material in the judges’ book.
      Giving the contestants a bird to design an outfit around…okay.   Every one of us certainly should have been able by now to read the judges’ minds and know they didn’t want anything to do with a bird…they wanted a LBD that doesn’t fit.  Being literal is being a loser.
      Poor Bert, I grew to admire his immaculate skills.  And even though I hate to admit it, Clinique Counter had a nice dress that the judges trashed with the little corsage.  The corsage kept the dress from being something Omar the Tentmaker would have sewn.
      And Viktor was robbed once again.  Kimberly sent his exact dress down the aisle, except for the pearl sash Miss America would wear.
      And Barbie…Nina is still gunning for her.
      Let’s all be thankful no one had to represent the owl.  I can hear screams of “Halloween” now.

    • Anonymous

      I liked Bert’s dress. Granted, the bustier part was maybe not so hot and there’s nothing innovative about colors peeking out from beneath a long, flowy skirt, but I thought the end result was pretty and not auf-worthy at all. I do think he should have done the dress in yellow with the green peeking out from beneath. The gray wasn’t a good idea for this particular challenge.
      You guys are right in everything you say about Anya and the judges’ baffling obsession with her. The bitch has this thing in the bag.

      There must be something wrong with my “taste level”, because I kind of like the outfits that they hated and the ones that they loved and praised to the heavens, I thought were just ok.

       

      • Anonymous

        Not baffling. She’s pretty. As TLo has pointed out many times, the judges respond to pretty.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I know you’re right, but man, it makes me crazy. Nina and Michael are grown-ass adults, and they’re professionals. Kors might make boring clothes, but he understands fashion inside and out. Nina knows what works and what doesn’t, and what’s right and what’s wrong; when she’s at her best as a judge, no one is better. And this is Heidi’s show. She knows by now (or should know) what PR fans want to see. And, as a final point, I cannot believe that PR is so lucrative for Nina and Michael that they would risk their credibility over a pretty woman with limited skills.

          • Anonymous

            My conclusion quite a few seasons ago about the credibility issue is that among those who matter, “in the industry” it’s all simply understood that this is entertainment television and that it’s good publicity – in the ‘any publicity is good publicity’ sense – for an industry more often ignored or derided for being elitist and out-of-touch than celebrated, outside the relatively small number of people who are fashion fanatics.

            I’d also not be at all surprised that they don’t worry about their credibility because relatively few of their peers watch the show on a regular basis.  And they sure as hell don’t care what this year’s crop of interns and junior copy editors/designers care about their performance on a t.v. show.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Excellent points. And yet, I still expect more from them than to have their heads turned by someone like Anya, since they’re professionals and should know better.

        • http://profiles.google.com/quangtran65 quang tran

          @muzanE:disqus
          Not baffling. She’s pretty. As TLo has pointed out many times, the judges respond to pretty. 

          That’s kind of a BS theory knowing that the judges also loved Jeff Sebilia work, and in no way is Anya the first attractive to walk through the door. Heck, a lot of designers were former models. I find this theory every bit as rediculous as that “Heidi is jealous of Allison Kelley’s cuteness” that floated around in season 3.

    • Anonymous

      I keep forgetting the show is even on until it’s almost over. Before the show moved to Lifetime, I wouldn’t even answer the phone on PR night. These producers suck parrot feathers. I guess the Lifetime crowd must be eating this shit up, though. Anya’s thing was as ugly as her personality and she should have been gone on the rock star challenge. Bert’s dress was better than Laura’s Casanova rip-off satin pants.

      My only hope for PR is the All-Stars.

      • Anonymous

        I’m looking forward to All Stars, too. At least we know those folks are decent or great designers

        • Anonymous

          The talent level is certainly better than this season of PR, but having seen Lifetime’s promo for “AllStars” last night, I fear that it too will degenerate into manufactured bitchery.  I’ve allowed Lifetime to suck up enough of my life, and they ain’t getting any more after last night.

    • http://www.katymcdermott.com KatyMightHave

      If Bert and Josh had drawn the owl, Bert would have won, hands-down. And Josh would probably have gone home. The producers couldn’t have THAT, now! So yeah, methinks that button bag is rigged… 
      Stupid show. I only watch it for TLo now. “Nevermore, bitches” was complete brilliance.(On a separate note, I think Tim is part wizard – the secret power of his hugs magically turn a falling-apart designer into a force to be reckoned with!)

      • Anonymous

        oh the button bag is totally rigged. They chose people who were friends to be partners and then revealed they’d be competing against each other. They gave Josh a damn parrot for god’s sake. I think the producers are being extremely foolish. What they think their demographic wants may not be what they are delivering.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve never really thought the bag was rigged before, but when Josh and Bert are paired together and get the one bird in vibrant color our of four then that is a bit too much for it to be a simple roll of the die.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BEV2WB3MZRJHA4KD5DK4QY6FQQ Dinah

        Agreed.  And this time it was just SO obvious.   

        I think Bert’s real lack of inspiration stemmed from the idea that the producers hadn’t just set him up to fail, but to go down against Josh in a challenge tailored to Josh’s over-the-top whimsical gaudiness.  Bert wasn’t playing that game.  I think that’s why he just said “you’re right” on the runway.  He knew it was his ‘turn’ to go in the great scheme of things and wanted to leave with class. If they wanted to send him home over Laura hey would.  Nothing he said was going to make a bit of difference in that regard. He didn’t want to defend a look he didn’t love in front of the guest judge. 

        • http://pammieandtheps.blogspot.com/ Pammie

          Dinah!  I so agree with you.  I love Bert – I live in LA and I’m dying to see him at Mood sometime (I hear he goes in occasionally!).  I think he was over it – he seemingly fell in love with designing and he still has “it.”  No question.  I would happily wear his designs.  I also liked how he kept his cool and came out very well in the after show.  Even after a very difficult but astute question from Laura Bennett!

          I’ve been an avid viewer this season but till the end I’m only reading Tom and Lorenzo – otherwise – it really it too producer manipulated.  I mean really, if they chose both looks, Bert would stay in and perhaps either Kimberly, Anya or Josh would have been in trouble.  This is the second week, it is apparent the challenges were changed mid-way through.  I mean this is drama-driven reality TV.  Bring back the talent driven reality TV, please.  

          TEAM BERT!

          P.S.  Do you notice TIm Gunn is not himself this season – what is going on??

          • Anonymous

            Tim is so over it…..by my best guess.  His life has changed dramatically in the past 7-8 years, and my guess is he is just not enjoying the ride anymore.  Bert showed inflexibility….my guess is Tim has some of his own.  Hell, I am about a decade younger than both of them and I feel it coming on whenever I watch this thing.

            • Anonymous

              I do think that Mr. Gunn is positioning himself to melt away into an occasional appearance as surprise help, guest judge or host, rather than workroom mentor.

              He’s been pretty open in interviews about the fact that some aspects of his life are cut to suit his temperamental cloth, so to speak, and that if that makes him appear to be rigid (or some other uncomplimentary adjective) he’s fine with that.  He taught for a lot of years & advised students (I believe) even after he was no longer in the classroom, and apparently enjoyed it; he may be finding this t.v. mentor role irksome now that it’s become routine. 

          • Anonymous

            I’m bummed we don’t see much of Tim.  I don’t know if it’s editing or not but in the past we had a lot more Tim-time and now that the show is even longer it seems like we see less of him.  I don’t like that.  And he seems a little more distant from some of the designers maybe?  I’m not sure exactly what it is.  

            I hate that they keep yanking the designers around with round after round of ‘twists’.  And yeah, if the designers had been showing both looks I don’t think Bert would ever have been bottom three.  There were plenty of other designers in serious trouble producing two completed looks. 

            That would be awesome to see Bert!  I also would be happy to wear his clothes too! They are so beautiful and you can tell he cares about making the woman look good, not just the dress.  :) 

    • Anonymous

      Still think Victor is taking this and that all this caca we’ve been subjected to in the last few weeks is a long tedious card trick.  I see Mr. Luna as their default Mondo since Mondo got totally robbed, rolled, and then robbed and rolled once more last season. 

    • Anonymous

      Dear Lifetime,

      Sorry, but I am breaking up with you and have started a mild flirtation with the fashion related shows on Sundance Channel.  Oh sure, I will come to your weekly parties, guzzle booze, eat mediocre snacks and ignore your attempts to make me play Twister.  But I will only be there so I can hang out with my fashion conscious, witty TLo friends.  

      Frankly, my dears, you bore me, and while it is fatal to a designer to bore Nina, at least the result is a quick death.   The torture PR is suffering at your hands foretells a painful lingering demise.

      And so, like so many before me, I say, “Nevermore, bitches

    • http://www.facebook.com/chloe.stabler Chloe Stabler

      I hated Anya’s dress.  It looked like a decent concept, but it ended up looking like a sack that had been pinned together in an attempt to give it an interesting shape.  I’m so over her.  I wish one of the guest judges (because we all know the normal ones won’t) would bring up her lack of sewing ability.  Where is the old Nina when we need her??

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

        I think the guest judges must get briefed and force-fed the Anya Kool-aid. Because Francisco Costa should have seen the construction issues and commented. Nina clearly saw the one’s in Kimberly’s work and pointed them out.

    • Anonymous

      “Nevermore, bitches.” I love you guys.

      Finally watched the episode. Not surprised Bert went home, especially because he displayed the weakness the judges saw in him all along. If he had faltered really stepping outside his normal approach, as Laura did, they might have kept him. I think he was great on the runway. I wish he had defended his look more, but it almost seemed like he was ready to go home.

      I’m not upset with Anya’s win. It was a cool dress and flattering. I hated that the producers had the designers only show one look. I think most of the designers were smart in their approaches to their second designs, and it would have made for a really interesting runway show. Oh well, the clothes do seem to be secondary this season.

      I didn’t watch “After the Runway.” If they can’t fit what I want to need to see in the current 90-minute format, then screw ‘em.

      And I’m SICK of the product/advertiser tie-ins. Enough already! The word “advertorial” makes me want to puke anyway.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NCE7HCMDQDBIQ2ZVGSZPRYSPYA L

      As soon as I saw the trailer for the post-show, I thought, “They’re trying to get control of the narrative. If they air this immediately after the show, people will watch and let it influence their thinking. They’re trying to beat the bloggers to the draw.”

      I didn’t bother watching it.

    • Anonymous

      OMG like Amathema, the picture of the raven with the tagline “nevermore bitches” caused me to both spit out my coffee and snort.  LOVE YOU TLO.  You are the only thing that makes watching this worthwhile.  I still am sad over Bert’s loss but oh well.  Watching Josh start to reach DefCon Five is what’s really the only think keeping me watching this season.

    • MilaXX

      This season especially we can see that Lifetime cast characters who can sew rather than talented designers. That’s not to slight people like Viktor who can really sew, but it’s what we have now. I think that’s also why every week we have to get a scene of him proclaiming someone is cheating or copying him or both. I also think the show is dying for another hit like Christian. That said I am fairly convinced that Anya wins this. Somewhere there’s a clip of Heidi from fashion week bragging about how she fought for a designer who had only been sewing for 4 mths to get on the show and now she’s at fashion week. There was the weird solo introduction of Anya on the after the show thing and the judges obviously love her to death.  Viktor will probably make it to fashion week, but I’ll be surprised if anyone other than Anya wins, and I really don’t mind. She’s playing the game, but I also think she does have a good sense of fashion and an eye for prints. I also think in terms of making a name as a designer after the show she knows how to pimp herself out there as as much as Christian currently does.

      As for the auf’ing; as much as I would have loved to see Laura go, I can’t really argue against Bert going. I was a bit surprised because I thought the judges liked him, but I can’t say he didn’t deserve it.

      • Anonymous

        That “Aftershow” gimmick is part of the Bunim-Murray formula.  It’s just designed to juice up drama, and probably doesn’t mean much (ie Anya coming out separately).

        • MilaXX

          I thought the same thing weeks ago when someone shared the Heidi at fashion week video. For me it’s not the one little incident, it’s the culmination of a lot of little things like this and the judges obvious love affair with Anya.

    • Anonymous

      sorry if somebody already asked this and TLo answered (no time to read the 182 comments), but I know that TLo does NOT kiss and tell, but no juicy gossip details from Bad Mommy about the “After the runway” debacle? You know your unborn fawns and dear minions would love to hear it!!!!! :-) 

    • Anonymous

      I LOVED Bert’s dress. I thought the gray was sophisticated and the colors under it gave it a nice surprise pop when she walked. I can’t believe he went home over Laura. Of course, I’m in Bert’s age group so naturally I would gravitate toward his aesthetic, but I have to say, all of the designers stepped up their work a bit this week. I actually liked everything on the runway, but some things clearly more than others. 
      I’ve also been saying it all along – Anya was chosen for the win the day she walked into that room and said she was only sewing for 4 months, and so much fuss was made about her being a Miss Universe contestant before the show even started that it was clear that the public relations campaign was already beginning for her. I can’t believe it took the other designers so long to catch on to her. When I heard Josh’s comment about her having a strategy and playing the game well, I yelled at my TV “It’s about damn time you guys realized that!” She played all of them all season. Of course she is going to win, but you know what? I don’t even care anymore. I’ll always watch it, but I stopped becoming invested in the outcome. Bunim-Murray ruined the show.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I don’t understand the criticism for Anya because she’s playing a game.  (Now, the producers… that complaint I totally get)  I’d go in with a strategy.  Abso-freaking-lutely. 

        Is she all sweetness and light?  Hell no.  Yes, she manipulates everyone around her.  And why wouldn’t she?  She gets by with it and it makes her stuff better because of the help.

    • vmcdanie

      I’ve been with this show since S2 (and since then I’ve gone back and not only watched S1 but I own the first five seasons on DVD.) Annnd, yeah, it pains me but I’m out. I’ve self-aufed. I’m strictly consuming this in T Lo format now.

      I will almost definitely tune in for the all star cycle though

      Insert snarky comment about the rest of Lifetime’s programming sucking here.

    • Anonymous

      I stopped watching the show once it went to Lifetime because it’s became so lame. For the last few seasons, I’ve watched the opening episodes then forgot the rest and only read my dear friends TLo who I knew would let me know if I was missing something. Tlo thank you for saving me hours of my precious life! I’ve not missed anything! 
      It does get tiring to see so much obvious manipulation. In the early days of PR,  there was so much talent and drama mixed together (Santino, Nick, Daniel, Laura B, Korto, Jeffery, Jay, Uli, etc) that one could watch for the fun of it. I loved those early casts and you felt like maybe there was some merit to wins most of the time.   

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        S7 was good, you might want to look at that one.

        • Anonymous

          Thanks Shannon. Yes Seth Aaron was a good designer and that was an overall good season from what I saw (and of course I read every week about it here so I knew something good was happening and tuned in!) 

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            It’s one of my favorites, and the reason I still watch every season.  I mean, B/M and Lifetime gave us the horror of S6, but then they course corrected and gave us S7 which was wonderful.  There were several outstandingly good designers there. 

            Then came S8 and S9… which have been just sad.  But they brought it back once, so I’m always hopeful for a new season.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s looks far worse up close. It just appears to be a series of little tacks here and there and I don’t think they are particularly flattering. Maybe its shadows but it looks like there are two pleats on one side and three on the other and the shoulder caps are different sizes?

      There is no way Anya will not win at this point I think.

    • Anonymous

      Will we ever again see a Project Runway that values skill and creativity over oxygen-sucking drama vortexes and beauty queens?
      No. And it spells the end of Project Runway. I know a half dozen people that’ve stopped watching this season. Precisely because it’s no longer a competition for designers.
      The funny thing is, I would think all the drama vortices would be far more comfortable back at Bravo — home of the Real Housewives.

    • Anonymous

      All the criticisms of Bert’s gown are valid, but Josh’s dress kind of looked like something from Forever 21.  Wasn’t this supposed to be a “high fashion” challenge?  That said, God help me, but I am beginning to like him, what with his thinly veiled hostility toward Anya.

      Marie Claire magazine is trash anyway, so that “advertorial” is no kind of prize.  It always amuses me as I watch Nina huff and puff and roll her eyes that she is the only one among the four stars of the show whose career has actually fallen – and fallen mightily – in PR’s wake.  Either she is a completely unbearable person in an industry known for unbearable people, no kind of editor, or both.  I haven’t liked her since she dismissed Austin’s Banana Republic dress in the show’s third episode, and I don’t like her now.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Or Marie Claire offered a lot more money to her and PR to get her to come over because of the publicity value. 

        • Anonymous

          And/or she knew she was coming to the point in her life when she was going to have a child and was pushed off or removed herself from the track she had been on in order to have more control of her schedule.

          (Offered by someone who knows NOTHING about the comparative demands of her former and current jobs.)

    • Anonymous

      We were Team Bert from the onset and never wavered. Last night was grotesque. Laura’s raven costume was patently awful and unimaginative; Bert’s,while hardly his best, was a cool idea that would have won if Anya had made it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

      “As for After the Runway, could there be a better indication of what Lifetime considers the most important thing about the show? It’s not about design anymore; it’s about interpersonal conflict. ”

      Exaaaactly (said in a Casnova voice). 

      Seriously, Laura bitches about the drama and bs editing on her Lifetime blog, but then comes on and perpetuates the bitchiness and drama? I think we should give credit to Josh who, though I don’t like him and find him immature, smelled a rat the moment that Laura walked on the set and refused to answer her question, rightly pointing out that she was only there to call him out on his behavior. He clearly was pissed as hell and was way more professional and adult than I expected, based on his behavior on the show. Maybe he’s watched it and learned? I also have to give credit to Bert, who agreed with Laura that Josh is a bully but did so in a way that somehow managed to calm things slightly. 

      • Emily Scott

        That made me really miss Casanova for a moment…

        • Anonymous

          I’ve forgotten how much I adore Casanova. He’s not going to be on all-stars, is he?

        • Anonymous

          Ha ha…I forgot about Casanova, of the $1050 pants and great love for Noo Jork!

      • Anonymous

        Yep. I was glad to see Josh call her on that. 

    • http://twitter.com/yankeefoxtrot Alex McGeagh

      Bert, without a doubt, totally redeemed himself by the end of this episode. I do not understand what the problem with that dress was. I loved its fit, the flashes of color, and the movement. I haven’t been a Bert fan up until the last couple of episodes and thought his behavior was atrocious, so it says a lot how much I liked this dress and how sad I am to see him go. I really hope he’s able to find success elsewhere after the show.

      As far as Drama Vortex…oh my. Where do I begin? I take a different view of him now than earlier, where I thought he was truly a diagnosable narcissist (well, except that was removed from the latest DSM…LOL) at minimum. He had bad aesthetic and an equally bad attitude. As glad as I was to see him called out in ATR by Laura Bennett, it did in fact seem just like turning the bullying back around on him. I think he’s so hungry to make progress, pay his bills, and generally “make it”, that damn the torpedoes and damn the consequences and anyone who gets in his way. He’s also a young (gay) man, who lacks a certain level of self-awareness and how he’s coming across to viewers (which was part of Laura’s point that he really didn’t get). I suspect he himself put up with a lot of bullying and he’s absorbed that and made it into a defense mechanism (hurt them, smack them down before they do it to me).

       I’m not excusing Drama Vortex’s behavior, but this episode definitely revealed a significant amount about his psyche and why he sometimes acts the way he does. And honestly, his dress was so much vastly better than Anya’s, I totally get why he would be so upset about her win…it was terribly undeserved. Yes, sometimes we don’t all win when we deserve to (particularly in something subjectively judged), and there’s something to be said for accepting that fact graciously and with class (which DV could take a lesson from Bert!). But there’s also something to be said about Anya’s ridiculously unimpressive, boring dress – THAT HER MODEL HAD TO BE CUT OUT OF!!! 

    • Anonymous

      The challenge started out OK.  The twists, however, were COMPLETE bullshit.  Switching the number of dresses over and over?  Why?  At least before when they mucked with the challenge after the fact, some rationale was given.  You’re right, the first thing I thought when they dropped one of the looks was that a certain producer’s pet was in serious trouble so they rode to the rescue.

      Anya’s look was OK but the other dress was a lot more interesting.  They’re so intent now on giving wins to whomever comes up with the best LIfetime Television for Women who Triumph Over Adversity story.  By that criteria it should have been Kimberly.

      I was a bit surprised by Bert’s elimination, especially since Laura has been on the chopping block every single week lately.  But I can’t work up enough interest or enthusiasm to rant more than this.

      When is this season over again?

    • oohsparkley!

      Lots of comments to read through already.  My 2  cents – I liked Bert’s dress, quite a bit actually.  OK, the shape of top looks a little dated, but the colors kept it update (to me, your mileage may vary).  I like shiny metallic and the partially hidden colors.  I didn’t care for Laura’s tacky, too-tight yeast infecting pants, but the jacket was nice, if unoriginal.  I do think Anya is a talented designer even if her sewing level is amateur.  I see Victor and Anya in the finale.  I would have picked Kimberly’s gown for the win last night, it was very sexy. Tim’s hugs are magic!

    • oohsparkley!

      Lots of comments to read through already.  My 2  cents – I liked Bert’s dress, quite a bit actually.  OK, the shape of top looks a little dated, but the colors kept it update (to me, your mileage may vary).  I like shiny metallic and the partially hidden colors.  I didn’t care for Laura’s tacky, too-tight yeast infecting pants, but the jacket was nice, if unoriginal.  I do think Anya is a talented designer even if her sewing level is amateur.  I see Victor and Anya in the finale.  I would have picked Kimberly’s gown for the win last night, it was very sexy. Tim’s hugs are magic!

    • Anonymous

      Ugh. They have ruined it for me. That after-the-show nonsense just told me everything I need to know and confirmed all of my worst suspicions about Project Runway, the move to Lifetime, the Producers, the Judges – really, everyone involved. I have watched since day one, and have enjoyed many hours of entertainment. This is no longer enjoyable nor entertaining. I’m done.

    • Anonymous

      Ugh. They have ruined it for me. That after-the-show nonsense just told me everything I need to know and confirmed all of my worst suspicions about Project Runway, the move to Lifetime, the Producers, the Judges – really, everyone involved. I have watched since day one, and have enjoyed many hours of entertainment. This is no longer enjoyable nor entertaining. I’m done.

    • Anonymous

      Anya? Is that you?

      • Kate Pearce

        Don’t you mean, Josh? :)

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bridgette-Gubernatis/563013185 Bridgette Gubernatis

          It’s Valerie guys from last season. The color block gal.

          • Kate Pearce

            LOL, I know I was just kidding :)

    • Anonymous

      Wow- this challenge felt like deja-vu! From the “create a second look when we said you had two days” to the 20G prize to Kim losing it in the bathroom with Anya & laura following her (Ivy & gretchen followed me when i did the same thing!) to the one shouldered dresses (like several of us made for that challenge).  The only difference is that the rightful winner won this challenge in my season- whereas-i think it’s clearly obvious to everyone watching- the judges  here aren’t judging based on design anymore- they are just playing favorites now and it’s a bit sickening.  Thems the breaks though with this show. You sign on for it and it’s a bit disconcerting when you live it and see how things in TV world end up playing out. 

      I think Anya is just OK. She definitely showed here true colors here by not being a team player- regardless of where you are at in the competition, if someone gives to you (on numerous occassions) and you don’t have the compassion to give in return- that to me shows lack of integrity.  I’m sorry- but her teammates gave to her just in the last episode. So to say it’s ok to ask for favors a few challenges ago but not now is a bit of a joke to me. If you’re a good designer and you help your fellow competitor- the true talent will come to the top regardless of how you assisted.  In my season, we were helping each other up until the very end. So i don’t buy her “i’m a sweet, self taught beauty queen” bullshit.  It’s unfortunate that the truly talented designers aren’t prevailing as they should because of 4 very biased and “cool kids” driven judges. 

      Had the same dress that Anya constructed been made by any other designer-they would have raked them over the coals for that terrible consrtuction, ill-fit and ridiculous silhouette. Not to mention the fact that it didn’t even have a proper closure!  I’m sorry- but if you can’t make clothing that can be worn by real people, this isn’t a show about sewing or design-it’s about favoritism and becomes a popularity contest. 

      It’s a bit disheartening to watch knowing that the other designers are working just as hard if not harder than the teachers pet.  Everything Anya has made i’ve seen before in every other big designers summer resort look book and catalog.  Her final collection at Fashion week was my 2nd least favorite- it was tired, repetitive and predictable, not to mention lacking in any sense of innovation. But because she’s thin, beautiful, exotic and has an interesting story- the judges see it as an opportunity to milk the hell out of it.  It’s a sad sad day for you Project Runway.  What have you become?

      • Anonymous

        Right on.

      • Anonymous

        I remember you from Season8! I loved your designs and the endearing way you spoke of your family. Are you participating in PR All-Stars or have you had enough of PR?? Especially, now it’s under different “management” and seems to have gone in a different direction.

      • Anonymous

        Valerie! Great to hear your perspective. So you’d say this is worse than your season? Many of us longtime viewers thought the judging was pretty bizarre last season, too, but I think you’re dead-on about the judges grading Anya on an unprecedently huge curve they’ve given no one else. 

        Hope you’re doing well and having wonderful success!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=739505579 Amanda Aziyade

        Waves to Valerie!!  I loved your print dress, for the record. And I’m in total agreement with your whole post. We’ve all noticed how much the judges bend over backwards to reward and gush over “certain people” for ill-made, ill-fitting, craptastic garments, when if another designer presented them, they’d turn their noses up in a second.  While I realize this is “reality” tv and all, it’s intellectually insulting to the (former) fans of the show — not to mention the designers out there, like you, who must be collectively shaking their hands and shrugging their shoulders over the direction this thing has gone.

      • Anonymous

        Valerie! I loved your work on Season 8 and was sorry to see you go. Thanks for your perspective here, and I hope you are doing well. 

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Valerie, so great to see you here again. I thought you were pretty awesome when you were on PR.

        Also, great post.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

        It’s great hearing from you, Valerie!  It is nice knowing that there is life after PR.  I wish you all the best in your future endeavors, and please keep posting on here!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

        Love you, CrayCray!

      • http://www.facebook.com/sorryfortheincovenience Heather Pickett

        right on, valerie! by the way, you were my favorite last season! your hip, judy jetson vibe is tits!

    • Anonymous

      Oh TLo, you guys are so literate!  Titling this post “Weak and Weary” and then bringing the Poe reference full circle with “Nevermore, bitches.”  Brilliant!

      I’m now convinced that Anya wins the whole thing.  And that makes me sad, because her work, while similar to Uli’s, is far less sophisticated and beautiful.  And Uli was denied the win twice.   The twists in this episode were truly ridiculous.  It’s probably no surprise that the top three all had some serious issues with their other look, so they were helped the most by only showing one.  I think Josh and Kimberely benefited even more than Anya did.  I dislike Anya; she’s a snake in the grass.  But I don’t have problems with her winning for this dress, though it would have been nice to see the judges acknowledge just how “referential” this is.  It’s the other challenges she’s won and the other times she’s skated through for something heinous that bother me. 

      At this point Anthony Ryan is the only designer who has a change to beat Anya as fan favorite.  Everyone should hit Twitter hard to vote for him.

      I thought Laura should have been aufed instead of Bert.  Seeing the stills, I’m not so sure.  That bustier is really bad.  But I think he helped himself tremendously and will hopefully get some good career opportunities as a result.

    • Anonymous

      I actually loved Bert’s dress, certainly a lot more than the orange blob it “competed’ against…..
      but the writing was on the wall for him, you could see it coming from a mile away.
      There is no way the youth obsessed image industry would let him continue.
      I like Anya though, as I’ve said before, her toughness and ability to think on her feet make her a good contender.
      It’ll be great to see Josh’s bitch fits about her in the upcoming episodes, she will be a lot harder to intimidate than some of the others.

    • Anonymous

      “Will we ever again see a Project Runway that values skill and creativity over oxygen-sucking drama vortexes and beauty queens?”
      I weep.

    • Anonymous

      I agreed with Anya’s win which is a rarity for me. I also think she would have won if 2 looks went down the runway because the dress she left behind looked intriguing. But I sure don’t like her as a person or as the winner she seems to be. 

      Bert, on the other hand, I really was rooting for. I didn’t know just how much until he was aufed.  I liked Bert’s dress. A lot. The green coming out from that lovely soft shade of gray, the shimmery bodice, the way it moved coming down the runway. I thought it was beautiful. I feared for Bert because of his age, not because of his talent. He’s still more talented than most of those left, and certainly Laura and Josh. What Laura sent down the runway was embarrassingly bad and not for the first time. 

      They seem to be grading on an individual curve, and because Bert started out with more knowledge and experience, they’re grading him harder than the others. And we all know Anya is graded the exact opposite. 

      The Real World Parsons is just not fun to watch, and that extra half hour turned into 5 minutes for me before I turned it off. It makes me like the designers even less and I don’t like them much to begin with other than Bert. If it wasn’t for T Lo, I think I’d stop watching the rest of PR too.

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        I loved the skirt of Bert’s dress but I think the bodice was what ruined it for him.  The belt in particular looked very dated and 80s — was that from the Piperlime wall or did he make it himself?  

        I thought the flashes of color were stunning and the skirt moved beautifully.  When Josh’s model was standing on the runway it looked like an orange pillowcase!  It looked much better when she was walking.

        I’m glad Kimberley didn’t get the auf, she seemed destined for the bottom with all the air time she was getting.  I did like her dress but can’t they put some support in those dresses???  She needed some kind of bra, anything!! 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bridgette-Gubernatis/563013185 Bridgette Gubernatis

      I have not drunk the Anya Koolaide.  I think she’s playing this show like a game and is doing the “sweet to your face, scissors in your back” thing that is learned by all pagent girls.

      However, the woman did not have to be “cut out of the dress” she also didn’t need to be “sewn into the dress”  You can clearly hear her say that she got stretchy material and thought it would stretch enough for it to be put over the model, but then she had to cut about an INCH or two down the collar hem in order for it to be stretched enough for the model to put on.I think this is really being exaggerated.   If she was “cut out of the dress” it makes it sound like it was in bits and pieces, yet the girl is wearing the dress just fine in the photo shoot.

      • Anonymous

        It may have been slightly exaggerated but looking at the size of the neck hole in the dress, there is no way you could realistically get that dress on/off without some kindof fastener designed into the dress, ie a zipper, hook&eye, ect.

      • Anonymous

        Usually, the phrase “cut out of the dress” means opening one or more seams. to remove the dress.  

    • Anonymous

      Ugh. All I can say about this season.

    • Anonymous

      Ugh. All I can say about this season.

    • Anonymous

      For the final elimination challenge Tim will come in at regular intervals and keep adding another dress to the challenge.  (“You will create a sixth look!  You have 2 minutes to sketch and 10 dollars at Mood!”)   The challenge will continue until all but three challengers are dead, and the others will compete at Fashion Week.

    • Susan Crawford

      Bert – I will REALLY miss you! Over the weeks, I have enjoyed seeing you evolve and create some terrific looks. I have loved seeing you interact with the other designers, and found your wry and pointed perspective both hilarious and spot-on. I send you off with a bit of a sigh, but I know you have a bright future. You will be remembered as one of PR’s most individual and intelligent competitors.

      Once again, that Anya Kool-Aid went down mighty smoothly, didn’t it, judges? I never thought I would say it, but Drama  Vortex was right: when you need to open seams to get a model INTO a garment, and then open the seams to get her OUT of a garment, you show your lack of experience and skill. BUT – in Bunim/Murray-Land, we don’t care about THAT. We just want to see some ridiculous fantasy-world spun out of beach glass and chiffon and . . . oh, never mind. One thing I know: this gal knows her strategy VERY well, and she can play a hard game.

    • Anonymous

      Guess I’m in a distinct minority here but I actually liked Bert’s dress – apparently more than he did.  I thought he was pretty clever in addressing the challenge this way.  I looked at it as it came down the runway and it reminded me of the twilight gloom of the jungle with flashes of birds flying through it (not that I’ve ever actually been in a jungle).  I had real problems with Anya’s winning, not only because it is “costumey” with the wings but because the basic shape (with the droopy stomach) was unflattering and overall it was an unsuccessful retread of Viktor’s much better LBD of an earlier challenge.

      I’m still bewildered by Heidi’s comment that the three they didn’t like were all too literal interpretations of the inspiration.

    • Anonymous

      That’s it! I’m done with this piece of crap show. I don’t care who wins fashion week. I’ll never watch again. But I’ll read your blog, just for the funny.

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      I did not and will not watch the Andy-Cohen-stirring-shit-with-the-Housewives ripoff. 

      However, a spinoff I’d actually watch would be called “Meanwhile, in Sequesterville. . .”

      • Anonymous

        OMG, I was just thinking that! I would love to know what these guys / gals are doing, thinking, while stuck in some NYC apartment during filming!

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        “Meanwhile, in Sequesterville. . .”  sounds like fun. I’ve always wondered how the eliminated contestants deal with being sequestered. And I’d get to see more of Anthony and Bert. /sobs melodramatically/

    • Anonymous

      Dear Anya,

      Listen, twat: People have helped you sew your garments. People have helped you dye your garments. People have returned their own items at Mood in order to help you purchase fabric because you are a vacuous whore whose boobs eat her money. And SERIOUSLY? The “I might make sleeves, so I can’t give you any fabric yet” excuse? Bitch, please. You don’t even know how to make fucking sleeves.

      And then the sheepish, “Why are you mad at me?” at the end. Seriously, a week ago I hated Josh and now I want nothing more than to see him slaughter you on the runway.

      I’m having a serious Gretchen Weiners “WE SHOULD TOTALLY JUST STAB CAESAR” moment right now.

    • http://twitter.com/lenabena_ Elena

      I’m not really crazy about any of the designers at this point, but I guess I’m rooting for Kim and Victor. They’re the least insufferable.

      And sorry boys, but I really dislike Laura (Bennett). I know you guys are BFFs, so you don’t care what I say… But to me she was just stirring shit up last night, clawing her way back to the spotlight, even if for a minute. I don’t like Joshua either, but it seems like her only reason to come on the show last night was to argue with him and make him feel bad. What a classy broad.

    • Jacqui

      Not that this is the post for it but I do not get the color scheme for Josh’s dress. I have an Amazon parrot and there is no orange

      • MilaXX

        it wasn’t literal it was more tropical bird = tropical colors, hence the orange.

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        I think he also took inspiration for the colors from the L’Oreal eye shadow — the “parrot” inspired combo had all bright colors, so it fit the challenge.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Petrison/1022054303 David Petrison

      I don’t think the twist was to give certain designers a leg up, or at least if it did, it backfired since Kimberley was probably the designer that was helped the most by it, and I’m pretty sure the producers would have been fine with her leaving a month ago.

      If they would have shown two looks, Bert and Laura would have still been the bottom two.  Perhaps Victor would have beaten Kimberley, but the winner and the loser would have been the same.

    • Alloy Jane

      TLO said:  You can call it “Clearing the Air” all you want, but it’s really should be called “Stirring Up Shit.”

      Exactly.  EXACTLY.  I totally said that in the lounge and I agree that you really should make a “Nevermore, Bitches” t-shirt with that bird.

      I’m really glad I didn’t bother watching all of this episode.  Anya’s dress sucked.  Even if it had a closure, it still sucks.  Bad execution and fit.  Lumpy bits in all the worst places.  And while it was better than having neck feathers and severe cameltoe, I can’t find a way to justify it winning.  Maybe the judges think she’s beautiful enough to make up for her meh-yuck designs, but they really are destroying their credibility as having a modicum of sense or sanity.

      And Bert.  Oh Bert.  We’ve had our ups and downs, but I’m happy to see that you did learn a few things from what happened in that looney bin formerly known as the workroom.  I suppose that’s something good from this season.  It’s a shame they thought the slight boringness of your dress was auf-worthy. 

    • Anonymous

      The lame thing about this challenge was, that from the start,the designers should have known that the judges would absolutely NOT want to see anything related to bird feathers walking down the runway.  I liked Bert’s dress idea, but the top of the dress did seem like he might have given up a bit. I’m sorry to see Bert go.  He is really talented, and I actually like his final decoy collection quite a bit.

      Anya is a judges favorite for sure, and she of course looks great in the magazine shot.  Her design was OK, but I would have been more interested in seeing her original design.  I was disappointed overall that both designs were not shown on the runway for all designers.  That was also totally lame. 

    • Anonymous

      Oh, Bert. I’m sorry that he didn’t make it to the end. I was really rooting for him. I actually really liked the dress, and think that if he’d switched one of those colors with the grey, it would have been much better received. I hope that someone out there recognizes what Bert has to offer and gives him a job designing clothes for grownups. 

      I really liked this episode–for the first time, I felt all the designers produced looks that were interesting and unique. I could have done without all the challenge machinations, though. It’s very tiresome to watch all that manufactured drama. Just give them a damn challenge and let them design and and sew a damn dress. As for that “After the Runway” dreck–yikes. I actually felt sorry for Josh–I have no idea why I did because he certainly dished it out over this season, but it was terrible to sit there and watch a grown person crumble and become so defensive and then stalk off in a huff.  Embarrassing all around. I really don’t think that “Project Therepy” is a good idea. 

      • Anonymous

        “… designing clothes for grownups.”  And with grownups as well.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        I was also much more interested in Anya’s other look. The fabric was really cool. It kept popping up in the background and I couldn’t keep my eyes off of it. I don’t know why she went with the black one. She’d have been lucky if that mess looked like something out of Bladerunner.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, after I wrote that, I realized that the Bladerunner outfits were actually pretty cool-looking. Anya’s looked like a poor copy of a Bladerunner outfit. 

    • http://twitter.com/sockandaphone Gaby

      Giggling at my school ‘s library at the last bit.

      I am officially just over Anya. Seriously. Over. Its clear the judges love everything she sends down the runway. I though the idea of the dress was great, but omg the execution and fit problems going on….the back look like a potato sack. But no, the judges are blinded by her beauty and grace~ so she can send a plastic bag down the runway and theyll be like OMG! 4 MONTHS EXPERIENCE!@muzanE:disqus Also the whole ordeal with the fabric – downright ugly.
      Sadly I wont be surprised if she wins, which makes me sad because Viktor should win since hes a tailor whiz but the judges are too reluctant on him because hes very quiet. I think his pieces are amazing. Hes the Mondo of this season. Ugh.

    • Anonymous

      Farewell Bert.

    • Anonymous

      PR is now exhausting to watch, and I couldn’t tolerate the aftershow for more than a couple of minutes due to Joshua being unwatchable. It’s a shame what has happened to this show. “Nevermore” is right; there has always been product placement and hoop jumping, but it has become ridiculous. So many people have commented on this and it would be great if the producers would take note for a good next season, but I doubt that will happen. Apparently the quasi-drama is just too tempting. I’ll watch till the bitter and predictable end, but this season has already landed with a big fat thud.

    • http://janeaustensworld.wordpress.com/ Vic

      My disinterest in this year’s show after last year’s idiotic choice of Gretchen is justified. I am sure these designers are talented, but the show sucks.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQAEI5VIBLXN6YAONCDMUQVRBI Sydney Rose

      I believe the “producer manipulation” that appears to be going on is the result of Marie Claire being the sponsor of this now trainwreck of a show.

      They need a designer they can market for the Marie Claire demographic; actual talent as a designer is of secondary importance.

      • Mary McClelland

        Yeah and Nina lost a lot of credibility to me when instead of turning Marie Claire into Elle, she let it stand as is. Boring, middle-america, and geared towards “mall” clothes and relationship dramas. ew. It’s like the middle-aged cosmo. 

        • Anonymous

          She’s just the fashion editor at Marie Claire magazine.  She doesn’t determine the overall ethos and content of the rag.

    • Anonymous

      I admit it. Since I first heard her I’ve “only been sewing for 40 minutes” line, I’ve hated Anya. Not just because she’s constantly playing dumb so that anything she can manage to piece together enough to stay on a model is impressive, but because she makes the same damn dress over and over again. This was the first time that she did something different at all… but it didn’t deserve the praise it got. What really annoys me is the whole borrowing fabric thing. I dislike Josh just as much as Anya, but without people having helped her sew MOST of her looks, she wouldn’t have made it past the first challenge.

      I have a horrible feeling that she’ll win this, in an attempt to right all of the injustices that have been heaped on poor, untalented beauty queens over the decades… *gags*.  I’m really hoping that instead, Viktor will win– he’s by far the most talented, but I have a feeling it will be like last season, where the win goes to the poor girl instead of the guy who deserves it.

      I’ll still watch All-Stars, but only because I love the original “should have won but was auf’d for a drama queen” designer– Austin Scarlett.

      • Anonymous

        YAY for Mr. Scarlett!

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t stick around for AtR. I just couldn’t. I slept through the middle part of the show, and I’m glad I did.

      I’ve thought I would stick it out to the end of the season, but I’m teetering on the edge of bailing even now, this close to the finish. It’s October and I have post-season baseball to watch, particularly if the Phillies make it past tonight.

      I have lost all interest in watching bitchy, whiny designers vomit up boring designs. Even Victor, who at least has talent, is making me want to slap him. His constant accusations of people copying him or cheating make me want to send him back to sixth grade with the rest of the hall monitors.

      I think what killed me last night was seeing Kimberly crack. She has been the only consistently mature, professional person on the show (Bert eventually stepped up, but he’s had his childish moments), and last night they maximized the portrayal of her as a woman on the edge. I am so glad she got her shit together, because if she had been sent home, that would have been it for me.

      • Anonymous

        I was also glad to see Kimberly stay, I appreciate her talent and skills.  But I have to disagree with the idea that Victor’s accusasions are unfounded, at least in this instance.  I mean, he puts together a soft white Wilma and Kimberly, in three hours frantically throws together a soft white Wilma?  Same look, same length, same silohouette?  And hers is so much better because the boob managed not to pop out on the runway?  Perhaps Victor’s dress influenced her subliminally, but in any case the runway looked like Bedrock last night. 

        • Anonymous

          And hers is so much better because the boob managed not to pop out on the runway?

          Hers was also better because it wasn’t covered with feathers and moved better.  And I downgraded Viktor’s a lot because of that horrid short lining.  It looked ridiculous.

      • Anonymous

        Kimberly is the only remaining designer for whom I have any positive feelings.  Even Viktor, who seemed like a pretty decent guy early on, has turned into a rude and snarky bitch.

    • Toto Maya

      I know it’s so fickle that just a few weeks ago I was calling Bert and asshole and hoping he’d get sent home, and now I’m so sad that he’s gone. I’m really going to miss him. I don’t necessarily disagree with the decision to auf him, as his dress was ugly and I think it could have gone either way. But I sure wish they had aufed Laura instead. I really wish Bert luck and I hope he finds a job in design where he can flourish and make beautiful clothes and be respected. He’s earned it.

    • Anonymous

      Beautiful post, guys, and loved the EA Poe allusion at the end (and tied into the winning garment).  I would like to know how you think about Anya’s garment compared to Viktor’s in the design for Nina challenge.  I’m sure someone else addressed it, so I’ll read some of the posts. But I do hope you address it.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s dress looks like a piece of crap. It looks like stiff, unwieldy fabric stapled together and turned inside-out to hide the seams. Shapeless and awkward and hiddy. UG.LY.

      And I get the criticisms of Bert’s dress, but I also happen to LOVE grey (and I concur with Bert’s dislike of that bright green). I always hate when the PR judges get going with the “it’s grey so it means unhappy/depressed/not fun.” Again, I LOVE grey and it rarely reads miserable to me. The contrast of the colors concealed beneath the grey is a nice idea, and I love that shade of grey. I guess that bird is “exuberant” but I don’t see Bert’s dress as being dismal. It isn’t exuberant in the way that maybe Josh’s is, but not every dress has to be short and for a 22-year-old at a party. Blech.
      I’m only half-watching these shows. And the Anya-love for no evident reason, the literalness and poor design skills of most of the designers, the crap sewing skills of so many of them – ack. I’m feeling over it.

      • Deborah Kaye

        And and and … Anya’s black dress has the same armholes issue as the first one. The right armhole is significantly larger than the left (as seen in the picture on Laura’s blog). The photo from the shoot shows the dress from the left side . . . wonder if that’s to disguise the cut issues and downplay the awkward folds below the waist in the front?
        I also love gray, and I think Bert would have had a chance if he’d ditched the buckle!

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        A big fat YES to almost everything you said. (I’m intently watching every episode, and I’m not over it, but I am annoyed). Grey can be beautiful. When did it get a bad reputation? Also, despite the bodice, I loved Bert’s dress. I think that, instead of being dull, the colors he used were sophisticated.

        “not every dress has to be short and for a 22-year-old at a party. Blech.”

        I hear ya. Francisco Costa called Bert’s dress mature, and he made it sound like a bad thing. “Mature” and “dated” are not synonyms. I was a little offended.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I like gray.  I think the problem is that a lot of people don’t look great in gray, and those who do, normally only have one or two shades of gray that really works for them. 

          It’s like any other neutral: it gets labelled boring and unflattering because people who have no business in it insist on wearing it.  Yet somehow the same never gets applied to mini-skirts and skinny jeans… I wonder why….

    • http://twitter.com/ShelfAfterlife Shelf Afterlife

      I think this episode is better than the show has been in a while, but the manipulation on the part of the producers is just tiresome and ridiculous.  Viktor, though in the “After The Runway” hit the nail on the head about Anya.  It’s weird.  It’s just all weird.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017585103 Kanani Fong

        Exactly. He really did express well the issue with Anya. And I think to some extent, keeping her in this long, as well as the bully Josh has had a pretty deadening effect on the group as a whole. 

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        I agree, I thought this was one of the better episodes of the season.  I liked the bird inspiration, most of the fashions were of a higher quality level than has been the norm this season, and the workroom bickering was minimal — the drama was mostly about actual design concerns and problems.  

        Or I suppose I should say Josh’s drama was minimal this week!  He was actually mature and relatively restrained — if he’d been like this all season I actually would have liked him.  Of course he ruined all my good feelings for him with his rude behavior to Laura Bennett.  He’s impossible.

    • Anonymous

      I pretty much figured (fingered?) Anya for the win awhile ago. Totally undeserved, but not at all surprising. That dress is a mess. The sleeves are ridiculous, and close up, you can see how poorly made the whole thing is. And why is the hem falling out? Looks awful. I’ll miss Bert; he was the only reason I watched, but since I stopped watching a while ago, it’s not really an issue any more. Really, what a snooze fest. And Laura Bennett deserves so much better; why did she agree to do this?

      • Mary McClelland

        She has 6 kids to put through college?? That’s the only reason I can think of to possibly ruin your credibility with this mess. 

      • Anonymous

        Of course I don’t know why Ms. Bennett would participate, but I might guess that the whole Project Runway ride, from being a contestant till today, has been good to her and fun for her.

    • narita_rayna

      it should have been laura to go home, not bert.  his dress wasnt great, but it was certainly better than laura’s hideous mess.  those pants!

      also, anya’s dress is a wreck.  it looks like a 1st yr design student pinned some shit to a dress form & called it art.  she’s getting way too much praise for consistently bad craftsmanship.  she has good ideas, but no skills to pull them off.  plus, her sudden stinginess over fabric was shocking.  i hope her fellow designers abandon her going forward, so that the judges can see just how bad she really is.  i know heidi is just going to hand her the final prize, but i dont think she deserves to even make top 3. 

      and lastly, that after runway show has got to be the most desperate act of network greed ive seen in a while.  they just suddenly realized that there was an additional PR show that they forgot to show us all season?  look, i understand the need to put a buffer between PR and that offensively rotten ‘dance moms’, but ffs, just re-run the episode.  i’d much rather re-watch 1 good episode, than ruin it with 30 mins of posturing and stage-y smack talk.  god, it’s not even like they managed to pull together a compelling cast of characters this season, either.  they seem to be as bored with all the bullshit as we are!  lifetime, get it together.

    • Anonymous

      So I guess Anya will be running the table then? This $20,000 prize, Fan Favorite and the Grand Prize game at the end? And Miss Congeniality too, of course. I feel queasy.

      • Mary McClelland

        And then she’ll sell her sex tape to Vivid Entertainment and go the way of K Kardashian and really make bank! Miss Better Business! Was that too low a blow?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QVNXE5PQQVTSQHG77WZA3VRL5Q Alli Lon

          No…not low…just nasty. 

    • Anonymous

      Loved the Poe reference guys!!!!!!! Nevermore……..
      I sure hope that we are NOT looking at an Anya win for the season. I did think that she deserved the win this week but should have been aufed weeks ago. Bye Bert, you went out with dignity. 
      Can anyone answer why Laura was not on the aftershow??

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Maybe Laura’s smarter than we give her credit for?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=739505579 Amanda Aziyade

      Okay, I only watched the last half hour or so of this because I had no interest in the inter-personal “drama” they keep showing, so I’m confused as to the challenge: Were they supposed to design a garment based on the inspiration of the bird, or based somehow on an inspiration from the makeup they kept talking about?

      Didn’t watch the “project bitch about each other” show afterwards and apparently didn’t miss anything. I see Lifetime says they’re airing it because so many fans asked for it. Um, who among you wanted more of that? Seriously?

      I’m with Lorenzo and totally over this whole Anya thing. I thought her dress was way more “literal” that any of the others. I also agree that the “only one look” twist was thrown in for her benefit. Tim did say at the first twist that the model would be wearing BOTH looks. I thought this was important because don’t they usually just recycle aufed models when there’s a second look twist? I remember telling Husband that they made too big a deal of him saying that, and assumed it would function as Chekov’s Gun when they showed Anya cutting the dress to fit it over her model …. but of course not. It’s Anya.

      She’s obviously going to win. Is there really any reason to continue watching?

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        I thought that Tim’s claim that the same model would wear both looks was to cover up the fact that they would actually only need one model, so they could use the same measurements for both.

      • Anonymous

        In answer to your question, no, no reason to keep watching.

    • Anonymous

      And now that I’ve seen more than the rate the runway versions of the winner and the loser I will say that I still admire Anya’s dress from the standpoint that it looks different from anything she has brought before. That said, seeing it and knowing it’s inspiration I’m with Lorenzo–it was a shoo in because the judges are all busy kissing her a- – and it’s what the producers want. But in reality it was ridiculously costumy and so that was what was going on in the back–tail feathers. I commented to my self when I first saw it (what!!!!)
      Bert’s dress, on further inspection wasn’t as good as I initially thought (although I actually liked the many colors of chiffon peeking out). In the pics on Rate the Runway I got the impression that this was not drab gray but  lovely rich and silvery. The metallic bustier added to that original impression but now that I’m seeing it close up I’m not thrilled. So now I’m dreading but also anxiously ready to watch the real deal and see how the producers manipulated this into another silly, worthless episode. Bye, Bert, glad we got to know you.
      So now im d

    • Anonymous

      Oh, how I long for the brief halcyon days of Tim’s dishy v-log, before they quashed it because it was so “hurtful” to someone he cared about (hello, Heidi!). And oh how I long for the days when Tim actually got to be Tim, instead of the mouthpiece for the producers and their machinations. I would have loved to hear him describe these challenges that keep changing because they want to accommodate Anya’s deficiencies. Misty water-colored memories…

      I wish they would just cancel it. Consider it a mercy-killing. It’s clear they’ve already anointed Anya, and when you’ve already picked your winner and engineered the narrative to get it there, it should be a sign that your story isn’t interesting anymore. There’s nothing for people to get behind once you’ve taken away the stakes; who wants to just tune in for the gold-medal ceremony without actually seeing any real competition to get there?

      Bleh. I miss my show. But then, what else would I have to waste time with when I should be working on Friday mornings?

      • Anonymous

        Oh, how I long for the brief halcyon days of Tim’s dishy v-log, before
        they quashed it because it was so “hurtful” to someone he cared about
        (hello, Heidi!)

        It wasn’t Heidi.

        By the way, check out Tim’s Facebook page.  It’s interesting.  Last week, he wrote about Anthony Ryan’s auf’ing: 

        On last night’s episode, Season Nine lost a great designer and an individual of great quality. It was emotional for me to have to say goodbye… 

        He hasn’t said word one about any of the other episodes this season.  I wonder what it was about AR that made him feel strongly enough to comment on that particular outcome.

        • Janie Rainwater

          I wondered about that too.

    • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

      i really liked bert’s outfit tbh. i thought josh’s dress was boring and something i had seen many times before. sure the animal skin bodice wasn’t a good choice, but the layers of color in the dress that revealed themselves as she walked was really pretty. 

    • Anonymous

      I thought that I was through with Project Runway with last season’s egregious finale but I’m really done now.  I haven’t watched the past three episodes, preferring to get the wrap up from TLo rather than waste 90 minutes of my life on the crappy show that PR has become.  I don’t care who wins this time.  The collections fail to excite me even a little.    

      Sad.  I’ve been with PR since Season 2 and being well within Lifetime’s demographic, they’ve managed to turn me completely off rather than anger me like last season.  Way to mess up a once decent show, producers!  

    • Anonymous

      Lorenzo all the way! This dress was a poorly constructed hot mess. I’m sick of the judges falling all over this manipulative bitch. I’m ready to strangle her with those damn pie pan earrings she keeps wearing.  I’m pissed because I agree with the vile twit that is Josh and his frustration because he has gone to school and spent a fortune to learn his trade and this little twat is getting all the rewards. Viktor was absolutely right that Anya is getting praised for things he would have gotten criticism for if he’d sent them down the runway.  I’m pissed because Lifetime had this thing scripted out from the beginning. I’m pissed that on Lifetime a male can’t get a break on the program. 

      I’m pissed at myself for watching this train wreck. What did I expect when they promoted this season with a naked Heidi?  It was Lifetime’s way of telling me PR is not about clothes anymore.

      And I’m really pissed because PR has made my gay daddies fight.

      To top it all off neither Josh or Anya have not gained any perspective about their personalities and flaws after the show has aired. 

      • Anonymous

        AMEN!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017585103 Kanani Fong

      Bert cracked me up: “I hated the bird…” he said. I like Bert, have since the beginning. I hope he’s gotten a fabulous job out of this.  This group isn’t very much fun, and I think to some extent I can’t help but think that Josh’s early on domination by bullying and Anya’s neediness put a pall over everyone that they just can’t shake off. I’m not happy with the fact that someone who can’t construct or sew and for the most part presented an unoriginal final presentation at Fashion Week, even got on the show in the first place.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Bert is wise.  Birds are the devil.

        (BTW, aprops of nothing, we’re related somewhere via marriage — that’s my husband’s last name too, and he insists all Fongs are related.  Which the same is true of Stewarts, oddly enough)

        • Anonymous

          especially parrots. Ughhhh I hate those horrid, screechy things. (kind of like Josh. Hm.)

    • Judith Stonik

      I thought for sure Kim was going down. Like Heidi, I liked them all but thought Kim & Laura were the bottom 2. Joshua, go home, you big baby.

      • Anonymous

        I thought that the amount of praise Kimberley got for her greco-bridal thingy was hilarious ! Come on, that was hideous !
        And I didn’t find her very gracious about outshining Viktor. I wonder about the editing of the show : now, everyone is friend While last week they were about to kill each other ?

        • Anonymous

          I thought Kimberley’s remarks about beating Viktor on the tacky side, even if the B/M folks were trying to provoke that kind of comment. 

          • Anonymous

            I was surprised because I didn’t expect that competitive side from her. She’s usually so low key that that make me wonder how much of her comments about other contestants are being edited.

    • Judith Stonik

      And P.S. Bert – you were a very gracious loser. Even though you didn’t deserve to be. But T-LO, you guys were right. Once he started criticizing his design….

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        I should have know he was going the minute he didn’t even defend his own work.  If you can’t sell yourself, who will?  Though I do admit that the judges really hated Laura’s outfit for being so literal.  After the negative critiques, I was sure she was going home. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Maybe he truly believed that the worst should go home and that he was the worst.  Maybe this was the week he realized he just didn’t have any more to give to these batshit challenges.  Maybe he just wanted a full night’s sleep.  Maybe he’d found out he got to show once he was in the final ten, so why not cave now and get some rest before going on to doing the collection.

          • margaret meyers

            With Laura’s look right there, how could a designer think that their look was worse than that nasty mess?  Those pants were hiddy, the peplum was hiddy.  I had no problem with te collar, but the opening on her jacket was too big.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              High standards.  I can tell you that there are things that I’ve seen done on this show that I wouldn’t even factor into my calculations of whether my look was the worst because they are so appallingly bad that one can’t even consider them a look.

            • Anonymous

              High standards? Any standards at all, sometimes.

    • Anonymous

      “Nevermore, bitches”

      with the bird

      You fellas are genius.

      In other news: Anya, bleh. She did o.k.   Not at all convinced she should have won. Can see why she did. (Her ad-friendliness)

      Bert: Me so sad. Not at all convinced he should have gone home. Can see why he did.

    • http://profiles.google.com/luv2birdie Elana Bryan

      I’ve been a fan of the show since the beginning, but it’s quickly losing me with all of this falderall.  The only reason I watch it now is so I can enjoy my Tlo posts.  I’m hopeful the Runway All-Stars will be worth watching; otherwise, I may just stop watching altogether. :-(

    • Anonymous

      I was massively rooting for Bert, but I knew when the runway happened he was going home.  He just didn’t connect with the challenge and nothing else was disastrous enough for him not to get auf’d.  He knew it.  The judges knew it.  

      I thought the idea of Anya’s dress was good, but it’s irritating to keep seeing her get a pass on execution.  On the Anya sliding scale, I get why it won.  She probably has the best taste of anyone up there, but c’mon, the poor sewing being given a pass week after week is just disrespectful to all the other contestants.  It really rankles.

      And, yeah, why the fuck are they designing twists that help out Anya and hurt others–like Burt who may well have stayed if two looks had walked the runway?

      People bitched and moaned about Gretchen last season–at least Gretchen could actually sew.  

      Okay, shoot me now, but if the three finalists are Viktor, Laura and Anya, I’m going to root for Laura.  Viktor’s starting to remind me a bit of Rami–when stressed, he overworks things.  

      Well, at least I get to look forward to the discussion of Bert’s runway show–love that striped dress–love, love, love it.  Glad he stayed long enough to get his work on the runway.

      • Anonymous

        Out of those three, yeah, I liked Laura’s collection the best. I really would have expected to like Viktor’s the most since he seems the most talented on the show.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Nevermore, bitches.

      Why, in the whole episode involving an actual raven, did no one make this crack on air?  I was waiting for it for 90 minutes. ;p

      I like Anya–not because of the underdog thing, but because she’s a scrapper.  I kind of get the material thing.  When she lost her money and people rallied, it’s one thing.  When Josh (whose material she didn’t use) more or less demanded that she hand some over?  Yeah, I wouldn’t have done it, either.  That said, I also would have much rather seen the first dress, which was more interesting.  The dress she sent down looked like a bag.  Of course, so did Josh’s, which was also praised, so apparently, bags clipped at the shoulder are all the rage this season.  I didn’t like the way it moved, and I didn’t like the way it looked… though as far as the make-up ad went, it made sense.  Looks like she was strategizing on that, at least, and realizing that they wanted a look that would make the styling stand out above the dress, rather than the styling being a back-up to make the dress shine.

      As to Bert’s?  I didn’t mind it.  Like Heidi, I liked the “surprise” colors, and just wish they’d been executed better, but Bert should have realized by this point that “But I don’ wanna!” isn’t going to cut it as a reason not to fulfill the terms of the challenge.  That said, I actually think that the gray-silver palette might have photographed pretty well with that tacky bright make-up, given the right set.

      I didn’t bother with the after-show.  Reminds me of a pin a friend of mine used to have in high school.  It said, “Sounds like a personal problem to me.”  In other words, yawn.

      • Anonymous

        I was waiting for “Nevermore,” too. But on the other hand, Bert aside, this is a young and, it seems, not very worldly crew. I loved when Josh said, “What’s ‘qu’est-ce que c’est’?”

        • Anonymous

          As much as I dislike Josh, I sooo badly want to put that down to a moment of tiredness when you hear something out of context and just have a brain fart & the synapses don’t fire.

          I really, really don’t want to think that a man of his age – a man who wants to be a fashion designer –  a man, presumably, who has friends & acquaintances in, or at least trained for, some aspect of the arts – doesn’t know the phrase.

          • Anonymous

            Why should he? American schools do a terrible job with foreign languages. He probably didn’t even realize he was hearing French.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Yeah, I can’t fault him for that… And not just because of schools, because both the high schools I attended had very good language teachers.  Some of us just have a tin ear for that sort of thing.  I spend a lot of time in Chinatown, and I still can’t figure out a lot of phrases in English because of the Chinese accent.

              And I am totally aware it’s not them or their problem, it’s me.

            • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

              In the U.S., languages are traditionally viewed as a high school subject. Problem is, around puberty most people’s ability to pick up another language (a childhood survival skill) drops off rapidly. If you had started languages in grade school or even nursery school, you would have a better ear.
              That said, Chinese accents are often pretty hard for Americans to decipher. I work with several Chinese colleagues and I it has taken me a while to get used to to each one’s intonations speaking English.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              In my case, I can pretty much guarantee it wouldn’t have mattered — my son seems to have inherited it as well, and they start Spanish in 1st grade at his school. 

            • http://twitter.com/ionascloset ionascloset

              Yeah, but the Talking Heads. Everyone knows “Psycho Killer.”

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

              And he’s a bartender in New York. Surely he’s heard that song.

            • BuffaloBarbara

              I don’t think something like “qu’est-ce que c’est” really falls under the foreign language issue, though–it’s a phrase that’s used in a lot of cultural artifacts (including cartoons).  Unless he was asking because he was genuinely wondering what something he’d heard a million times meant, I’d also chalk it up to tiredness–though it was hilarious that it was just repeating in French what was being said in English, so it should have been obvious even if Bert had made up a phrase in Gobbledygook.

          • Anonymous

            Agree; I found it a sort of sweet, vulnerable moment. Just an example of general unworldliness.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          I don’t know–maybe it’s just weariness.  But I can’t imagine youth and non-worldliness as an excuse for not knowing “The Raven.”  We’re doing Poe for the Big Read around here, and when I shared it with a gaggle of thirteen year old girls from a small mid-country city that, er, isn’t famous for its achievements in public education, they all knew “Nevermore.”  It’s not exactly arcane knowledge, any more than “May the Force be with you” or the plot of “The Shining.”

          • Anonymous

            Well, who knows. Maybe someone said it and it didn’t make it onto the show.

        • Anonymous

          Even better: he said, “What’s a qu’est-ce que c’est?”, as though it were one word, and a noun.

    • Lisa

      I’ll go a step further – the judges are determined that Anya is going to win this whole enchilada.  While poor Bert didn’t rise to the challenge, it wouldn’t have mattered – Anya has challenge after challenge in the bag, and will win this season.  It’s already been pre-destined from episode one.  That’s why I said in another post, she’s a nicer and slightly more talented version of Gretchen.

      • Anonymous

        Nah, Gretchen could sew.  Gretchen turned out a decent dress in five hours.  Anya can’t manage to put in a zipper in three days.

        Gretchen was annoying, but Gretchen had the skills to be there.  Anya rode in on the short bus.  The chick can’t sew a dashiki.

        • Anonymous

          Agree. Gretchen was obnoxious and unlikeable but I think she had way more talent than Anya. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

            Technical skills. Gretchen had way more technical skills. 

            • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

              i hate to say it, but i think anya has better design sense than gretchen.

              that doesnt mean much to me, or to most people, mind you, cos gretchen didnt have much design sense. it’s not like saying anya’s work is more interesting than just about any of the other finalists in the entire history of the program. her work has more style than gretchen’s– but gretchen shouldnt have been a finalist either. or, at the very least & as everyone knows, not a winner.

              what anya really is, i think, is the person blenley thinks she, herself, blenley is. for all blenley’s sheltered yammering, i’m pretty sure it’s anya who has a whole mess of money & the taste that, according to blenley, would naturally go w/ it.

              & the reticence &, in this case, good sense not to yak about her self-involved grandeur much in the way laurablenley tends to do, & which makes nina wanna skin laura alive.

              & though i doubt she has the interest, but still– even if nina wanted to skin anya alive, it would be unlikely to make any difference in the outcome.

              sign me,
              too late to the party & wildly tired.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        I’m glad someone else thought that was babbling. What the hell was she trying to say?  I think judging from the body language on “After the Ruway”, she won the enchilada. There is so much wrong there.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t quite agree with the “talented” part of your comparison, but I think you still nailed it : she’s nicer and faker (is that a word ?) than Gretchen who was oblivious of whatever arrogant thing was coming out of her mouth.

      • Anonymous

        I hate that this season is making me defend Gretchen, even for one moment.

    • Anonymous

      whatever. she made a fucking black dress. I’m done with PR. I’ve deleted it from my dvr. It’s crap. they kept that asshole idiot josh and sent a DESIGNER home. whatever. I’m out bitches! CYAS!

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Hey, there’s nothing wrong with a black dress — she made a poorly realized black dress wasn’t particularly innovative even if one looks at what she was THINKING rather than what she MADE.  I make a lot of black dresses (though I will freely admit that not all of them are particularly “fashion”; most are because women want a black dress)  and it is possible to a) make one well, and b) put a twist on the classic that still leaves it a wardrobe staple. 

        Anya accomplished neither, particularly in light of just how derivative it really is. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7JMAFJGRETO2ZRETWOH6LGH52Y Aaron

      Bert impressed me, with how he got along with everybody and how he left. He did not like this challenge and it showed, but he still tried something new that just did not work. Laura will be gone soon, she has not been that impressive in a long time, I think Anya will knock her out building off the friendship angle they have been builging up.

    • Anonymous

      bleh.
      I’m sad Bert’s gone, but you can’t deny that it was the right choice, even if I found Laura’s outfit hideous and worth an out.
      Too many things for one episode : the competing against each other on the same subject was really a good idea, but the rest of it, feh !
      And what make me really mad is the now usual two way of judging : some contestants are getting kicked based on one failure while others gain from what they produced on past challenges. That is the trend from a lot of season now, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

      I was actually surprised, too, at Anya’s behavior, because she’s all “oh, I’m so worried about my friend, I’m such a good girl !” and then dismiss Josh’s request after he helped her. Still, she did exactly the same thing as Viktor in the last challenge and she had every right to.
      And the situation was different : she lost her money (whatever may be the reason : fatigue, sillyness, unknown devious hand taking it to stir drama) while Josh used all his fabric to make a horrid dress and then decided to scrap it when he saw it was going nowhere.
      So, I’m torn because I feel she was totally in her right refusing Josh some fabric but in the same time she just project that sort of kind and motherly aura that don’t ring true.

      Finally, while josh seems to be back on his best behavior, I can’t help to find him repulsive. Still, it was obvious when his tangerine bag dress standed next to Bert’s sad one where the judges’ love would go. And there I was hoping that all the scenarizing of the show would lead to the outing of the bad designer. Silly me.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        And she may have legitimately believed that she needed the extra fabric.  Why should ANY of them give up fabric they’re going to use for someone else?  Left over pieces are one thing, fabric you may need is another.

        • Anonymous

          But then why not just say she didn’t have any extra because she needed it? Why string him along? And while I agree that she was under no obligation to help anyone else, that seems pretty ridiculous coming from someone who has gotten as much help from others as she has.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            What she said was that he’d have to wait until she finished sewing her piece, so she could decide if she wanted to add sleeves (and re-cut if necessary, though that was what she DIDN’T say but was closer to the truth…). 

            She also said that at this point in the competition, she didn’t think she should do that and he shouldn’t have asked.  Because Anthony Ryan made ALL the difference apparently — before him, it was okay to need and ask for help and allow your fellow designer to PUT BACK materials to give you money, but once he was gone, all bets were off.. uh-huh… that makes totally sense…

            • Anonymous

              I don’t know. maybe her experience of losing money and having to work from scraps made her more wary of being as generous as she had been before. I didn’t see AR put back fabric to give her some money. Did he do that or did he have leftovers ?
              Maybe if AR was still there and had asked her for help, she would have help him back because he was the only one giving money, the others gave her fabric they said they wouldn’t use (like she did herself a few challenges ago).
              I don’t know, really.
              Her reaction doesn’t sit that well with me but I still stick to my opinion that she was right to do that : Josh had his money, spent it on ugly fabric, made an ugly garment and, wisely editing himself, ditched the final product. Other designers have been in that situation (for example : Kimberly on the same challenge. Did she asked other designers for fabric ? No, she did a crappy wedding doom dress from scraps). I don’t remember any PR contestant act so carelessly and then expect help from others as if it was a due !

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              He didn’t put back fabric, but he put back some notions, I believe.  I’m not sure what they were, though, and I’m certain that the extra $11 worth of materials wouldn’t have saved him.

              I didn’t have a problem with her refusing Josh, I had a problem with HOW she justified it.  Don’t talk about how it’s wrong for him to even ask at this point in the competition, because it clearly wasn’t wrong for you last week. 

            • Anonymous

              I see your point.
              I guess getting help is fair for Anya but she might be reconsidering things when it’s the other way around.

        • Anonymous

          maybe so. We would never know, with the editing. And I still think she had every right not to lend Josh a hand. I maintain that the fact he had used up his fabric uselessly doesn’t allow him to ask for extra fabric he didn’t paid for. He had the money, he used it, he bought ugly fabrics leading to ugly garment, well so be it.
          I think he thought asking Anya was fair game since he helped her out but it’s a totally different situation. I don’t see strategizing here, even if it did cross her mind that giving away fabric might come back to bite her in the ass.

      • Anonymous

        She did share fabric a few weeks back, and I think she regretted it because the designer she gave it to got high marks, didn’t he? I think she just didn’t want to give anyone an advantage again… I agree that on the heels of all the help she got last week, it looks pretty lame.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

          Nope. She gave fabric to Kimberly during the Rock and Roll challenge and Kim was almost auf’d.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        I can and will deny that eliminating Bert was the right choice. Bert’s dress had its issues (the bustier, so that makes it one issue), but it was far from a disaster and it was, as usual, beautifully constructed. Laura’s was a trainwreck. She said she made pants, but what showed up on the runway was a pair of 1) cheap tights that didn’t fit; or 2) cheap, shiny leggings that didn’t fit. I’m not sure what they were, put they weren’t pants. The colors she used on the top were dramatic, but that’s as much of a compliment as I can give her for what she presented. This is mostly, of course, just my opinion.

        • Anonymous

          I agree that Laura’s outfit was a disaster, but standing by Anya’s I couldn’t see the blatant differences as well as between Berts’ and Josh’s. I don’t defend Josh’s outfit. Still, it look freshed and exhuberant while Bert’s was a little sad.
          And Bert didn’t defend his garment the way he’s used to while Josh showed his charming (while fake in my opinion) side.
          The skirt you could get. The bustier, not so much.
          That is to say that, while all the models walked the runway, when I saw Bert’s I told myself “Oh no. he’s so gone…”

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            I think Bert not defending the dress had as much to do with his elimination as the dress itself did. And I’m with you on the bustier. It’s not good (aesthetically, that is. It’s perfectly fitted)

            I actually like Josh’s dress. I like sack dresses. I think they can be very sexy. And I love orange, so it’s something of a winner in my book.

            “oh no. he’s so gone…” makes me sad.

            • Anonymous

              Well, I WAS sad. Still am.
              I mean, who would you want to show a collection in fashion week ? Josh, Laura and Anya or Viktor, Kimberley and Bert.
              I still have hope for 2 of them, but I have no illusion left.

      • Anonymous

        I’ll deny all day he was the right choice for the auf. His dress actually made sense to me referencing a parrot. If one observes most parrots (and one drops lazy predetermined anthropomorphic stereotypes about their “exuberance” and whatever other blather Kors emitted), one notes that they quite frequently have color patterns that are only revealed in motion. Most often this is found on the rump and in the wing feathers, and you don’t see it until they move/fly. Like Bert’s skirt. Second: while sitting in a Manhattan studio, a jungle green bird looks brilliant and exotic. But in his jungle he blends in. It’s downright difficult to see these birds in their native habitat because they’re well camouflaged. For people, this colorway would translate to a city color, like, say, grey.  

        I did think he screwed up on the bustier, but not bad enough to be aufed. He intrepreted the bird as well as referenced it. I thought he did pretty good, considering he hated the challenge.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          I like that interpretation of the parrot… but I kind of think that it would be beyond the judging panel, and–unfortunately more to the point in this episode–that it’s not giving a big enough tongue bath to the make-up.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            And — to be fair to the judges — those who don’t know anything about birds (which is a very large segment of the clothes-wearing population) it doesn’t read as “Parrot”, though it is completely accurate. 

            Though these challenges always seem a bit odd to me:  working off of a pre-determined inspiration that was chosen for you seems like something one would be doing in the fashion industry working for an established house.  Hardly something required of the “next great American designer.”  If the goal is to launch one’s own label with the winning, then one doesn’t really need to know how to work UNDER someone else’s direction for a collection.

            • Anonymous

              Well. That’s product placement for you.
              I bet Bert would have done wonders with the owl inspiration while Josh would have been crushed.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t think all your analysis of the parrot have even crossed the judges mind.
          I just think that the litteral interpretation of the parrot was “shiny, colourfull, joy” and you didn’t get that with Bert’s outfit.
          He didn’t like the challenge, he struggled with it so much that he couldn’t muster any strength to defend it.
          And, face it, at this time of the show, the production would just jump at any reason to ditch him and keep the most pretty people on the show. He didn’t ace the challenge so he was history.
          That make me sad because I won’t get to see his collection actually walk a runway.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          thats a fabulous analysis.
          i used to have a lot of birds, before crazyspouse went really crazy.
          {it’s just drugs, he’s an ex-rockstar, there are a lot of those around here, you can barely pass a rock w/o turning over somone who used to have three houses but now lives via charity in a spare room in someone’s apartment, but still.}
          i cant watch this episode cos it upsets me. not just bert leaving, as i dont trust this season whatsoever i might have tolerated that. just the birds. i had three, one is over twenty & another almost as old, i hope they are doing okay.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, Viktor didn’t help her out but it wasn’t Viktor asking to borrow fabric. It was Josh, who had helped her in the previous week. So I thought it was a little mean. But I see you point about the different situations, too. 

        • Anonymous

          I Thought it was mean, too, especially with all the good vibes she has been beaming in confessionnal so far.
          So I thought it was a little surprising given the “good girl” story that have been building so far.
          But I do get the “official” reason as to why she didn’t help.

    • Anonymous

      I’m mad at Bert for not sucking it up and working harder to win.  This was a huge prize and he pissed it away, on top of pissing away the entire contest. 

      • Anonymous

        his complaining about all the green was tiresome. Really, dude? suck it up and make it work! You’d think Olive Oyl possessed him or something with all his pissing & moaning about color

        • Anonymous

          I wonder what tormented mental process Olive Garden would have used for an explanation if he had been on this episode, i.e.; why a teal and canary yellow parrot inspired him to make (yet another) an oatmeal colored dress.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          To be fair, there are colors I have a ridiculously hard time with — yellows are bad for me, as is orange.  I just don’t have any sort of connection or affinity for those colors and it would be difficult for me if I felt I had to start with one of them. 

    • Anonymous

      Why wasn’t Laura Kathleen on the after show?

    • Anonymous

      I hate those freakin’ dreamcatcher earrings.  So much.

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        How many iterations of those ugly earrings does she own?

    • Anonymous

      Lifetime is really trying to bleed it dry with “After the Runwaty.” Great to see Ms Laura (love her)…who looked amazing. Josh had a wonderful hissy fit. I love how he walked out during the closing credits.

      Bye Burt. You made the show entertaining and will be missed. I still don’t believe that Anya just learned to sew five minutes ago. Do you?

      I

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        the basics she’s probably known for awhile. when she says “learned to sew,” my guess is she did a four month intensive in order to get on PR. i’m pretty sure of that actually, also that PR & fashion design is not her real interest, just that she & her handlers saw a once-classy reality program as a step into the stars that is showbiz.

        what i really dont understand is wherefrom arises her 45% fan favorite rating. it’s certainly not representative of the commenters hereupon &, from the little i’ve read them, the commenters elsewhere. so i wonder if that is somehow being manipulated too.

        it’s all very strange.

        this week:
        either the front or the back of her dress wouldve been good; together, theyre all over the everlovin map & way too costumey. among all the trash & ash upon the runway this week i probably wouldve given the win to viktor, whether i like him or not & literalness be damned. the one i hated was josh’s krishna consciousness beach towel although i must say i do hope it’s indicative of his future spiritual & fashion career. they can probably teach him something about mourning, to say the very least.

        there wasnt anywhere near enough bad from bert to separate him as the chaff from the wheaties box. the whole thing is absurd, the judging process, the idea that theres a judging process, all of it. i do think he’s stayed long enough to get a job out of this miasma & wish him all the best.

        he’s wrong about birds, though, from what i hear.
        i know from personal, & now very sad, experience that birds are very very good.

        • Anonymous

          I’m suspicious of her fan rating. Not to be all tin-foil-hat-ish, but no where do I get the sense of that level of support for her. Hell, if they can doctor the competition, they can certainly “arrange” that vote pretty easily.

          I find the back of that black dress very ugly, both in stills and in motion. The shape of the entire outfit is so lumpy and unattractive, unlike ravens, which are sleek, aerodynamic, glossy birds with extended scimitar-shaped throat feathers. (Birder here.) What a piss-poor season this is.

          • Anonymous

            People who post in online forums comprise a very, very small minority of PR viewers.  Moreover, the extended discussions that take place in online forums tend to push people to extremes and can result in groupthink.

            Just because some people disagree with y’all doesn’t mean the stats aren’t legit.

            • Anonymous

              Well, sure. It’s a self-selecting set. I’d hazard a guess that people who go to the trouble of voting are also such a set. My main point was that producer intervention has seemed so heavy handed this season that making such arrangements to support a pre-determined outcome would be a logical tactic on their part, and certainly not beyond them.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I wonder how many people are including the tag when they talk about her not realizing that it counts as a vote for her — I didn’t realize it until I wanted to vote a couple weeks ago.

            • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

              people who make up focus groups also are a very, very small minority of users/watchers/etcect of the product that is the focus of the focus, if i make sense.

              it stands to reason, however, that people who post to online forums about a subject are among the people who are most interested/dedicated/etcect to that subject &, in fact, most likely represent the pervading view, if only a bit more intensely.

              of course, creators & purveyors could just quit listening to focus groups & online commentary & what have you & just try & put out a good product.

              to that end, i am old enough to remember preview house {people in LA can search their own back catalogs, i think, for this name} about thirty years ago– in fact, i worked there briefly when i was too young to get a drivers license & remember the story of how the floorboss, lyle, extorted thousands of dollars from them & hung himself in county jail {neither here nor there but a good tidbit for the tiny minority reading this who might remember preview house, lyle [who was nice] & his fancy outfits}…..

              anyway, i think most of us would prefer it if they ran a ‘clean’ show, one devoid of fixes, surveys, focus groups, product placement. do i think they will?

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I’m not “suspicious” per se — but I know I haven’t voted for anyone else because I DON’T TWITTER!  They can’t make me! 

        • Anonymous

          I wonder if her rating will drop after this week.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      i dont think the judges have any say any longer over what wins & what loses. i think they are given a winner & a loser before the show begins & have to fit their critiques to that.

      i dont know how it’s done & i dont really know why it’s done. but i’m w/in a hairsbreadth of 100% positive that it is done.

      • Anonymous

        And as a result, the TLo fans are done!  While I wouldn’t suggest that fashion is on a level of seriousness with any of the 4 bikers of the apocalypse (Thanks Terry Pratchett for the updated image), the producer manipulation through which they can get Nina to say, “Black is White”, “Up is Down”, and “I thought it was boring yesterday, but now that Anya made it it is fresh and young” is obvious and no fun.  Do they have naughty pictures of the judges or what?

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I’ll never be done… I’ll watch for the next 20 years, no matter how bad it gets.  The challenges interest me.  (And to be completely honest, there is an element of enjoyment that I can go, “NO!  That’s not what you should be doing… You need to do this!”  I love knowing more than the people on TV;  small and petty, but honest.)

        • Anonymous

          I don’t enjoy it as much as I once did, but when there’s a good challenge, interesting garments made, and one or more contestants I can root for, I still enjoy.

          I can’t say I like the clique-ish childishness that seems to have been more prevalent the last couple of seasons, but when there’s an actual work room discussion about the garment or the process, I do still love the show.

          And most seasons have had at least one designer that I really enjoy, usually The Old One (though Peach got boring fast, albeit still likable), because they are slower to go off on bitchy tangents & not afraid to look serious about the work.

    • Anonymous

      Best ending of a blog EVER!!!!!! Fell out of my chair, laughing my tail feathers off!

    • Anonymous

      “Nevermore, bitches” just made my day. Thanks guys! :D

    • Anonymous

      That Laura B lady is a tack shit disturber.

    • Anonymous

      Loved Anya’s, the “advertorial” looks terrific. Kim’s was also very nice, terrific for 3 hours of work.  Both ladies made it work terrifically. I agree on Anya’s first dress, I was liking how it looked and was coming along. I would love to see that finished product.

    • Anonymous

      Nevermore, bitches. Classic!!!!

      I’ve got a bird for you right here BM and I flip it each time they finish their cracktastic judging.  No way was Bert’s look in the same league of fugly as Laura’s was and while I still hate him on a personal level, I did think Joshua deserved the win last night.

      As for After the Runway, sorry, I actually watched Models of the Runway and that was valuable time in my life wasted that I’ll never be able to get back.  But that was when I actually gave a happy monkey shit about this show and now, well, nevermore bitches, nevermore.

      • Anonymous

        Happy monkey shit. That’s great! Can I borrow it?

        • Anonymous

          But of course!

      • Anonymous

        Really? Joshua FTW? I thought Joshua’s garment was a shapeless sack dress with an uneven hem and crap glued to the shoulder. And his inspiration bird was not orange. I thought Kimberly and Victor had the better garments, but hell; NONE of our favorites won!

        • Anonymous

          Let’s just say my “favorites” this whole season have been by default.  Except for the gown that Viktor did in the print challenge, so far nothing has wowed me.  So personally, I thought Joshua’s dress was the best of a pretty sorry bunch but I’m judging by the standards of “What do I find the least awful?” not “What is the most fashionable and beautiful?”

    • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

      I couldn’t rally enough interest to watch this last night.  Reading the TLo’s recap doesn’t surprise me re the outcome but it does make me a little sad.  This particular season should be titled:  Project Runway: The story of Anya at the Expense of the Other Contestants.  At this point the show seems like one long viral promotion of someone who is not very skilled, who turns out substandard shit all the time but who has a knack for knowing how to promote herself and so can also be a good promotional tool for Lifetime.  How far this show has fallen.  I’m not going to bother watching the rest of this season but I will return for the recaps because those are entertaining to read!

    • Anonymous

      Boo, the owl got eliminated. For the most part this is the first episode that I think shook out the way it ought. That being said Josh should have won and my husband and I both let out a Darth Vader worthy NOOOOOOO when they booted Burt. To be honest I think he was glad to go. He clearly had had enough.

      • Anonymous

        I liked the owl, too. 

    • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

       “She gets judged as a promising novice rather than an untalented pro.”  This is exactly what I think.  She is playing up her “weaknesses” so that she can constantly be seen as “overcoming her personal obstacles” and so the judges are letting her obvious displays of lack of skill and talent go pretty ignored, i.e., the Sheepdogs challenge with that badly made tunic top and the even more badly made pants that were split up the back..  She should have been auf’d on that challenge, if not before.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      “Nevermore, bitches.” 

      I love you guys.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1037970711 Ed Hawkins

      Run, Tippi!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      I’m surprised Anya wasn’t on the pedestal in the ad with all the judges bowing to her. 

      I have to say I got some guilty pleasure watching Laura B. ask CC if he wasn’t embarrassed. Also, I’m glad Viktor said that thing about Anya getting complimented for the most rudimentary sewing. I’m really freaked out that Anya was so happy in the after show that it seems like she must be the overall winner. In my mind that will be a worse blow than last season. 

      I keep watching because I can’t believe it will continue to get worse. Though at this point it’s right up there with believing in the tooth fairy.

      • Anonymous

        I wouldn’t mind if Anya won, I love all her fashions she’s made, and I thought she had a very strong collection, but I don’t think its happening. Its just a hunch, but Mondo won the $20,000 challenge last season, and we all know what happened in the end, he came up short, in Michael and Nina’s eyes anyway. If the trend continues Anya will unfortunately, IMO, not take it home either. I think the final decision is going to come down to Viktor and Anya.

    • isa mandarina

      Wow!! I just found out Anya has a SEX TAPE!! look it up on google…. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        it’s old news. & it was old news when she made it. she just hadnt been in the states or, specifically, in league w/ her higher-flying handlers long enough to know that sex tapes are so very passé, so very three to five years ago {if not more}. just a minor misstep on the handmade highway to her chosen perfectly plucky persona, is all.

        as per directly above you, if just for now:
        i agree w/ you re: the overpraised everything of anya. i dont think she’s as attractive as kimberly, who looks much more like a model than anya does. but anya has an exotic thing going on that kimberly hasnt got, & which is what everybody’s falling all over themselves to reward. she seems new in a way that none of the rest of them do. not that i’d reward it, it isnt new or even interesting to me, but i’m pretty sure that’s what cooks.

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          Well, you are right re: upper jaw/teeth, face too thin, eyebrows not angular enough to fit within Marquardt’s Mask (which transcends race); so not a classic beauty.  Nothing she can do about that so not a criticism against her talent or herself as a person.  If I were a PR recruiter I would actively avoid anyone who already has a publicist.  I also don’t buy the “exotic” as this is NYC not Des Moines– c’mon you can find 50 of her type on the subway every morning.   She is connected somewhere, knows someone or has hired someone who knows someone.  

          Re: emotional fallout:  I wonder if she and Laura have remained friends.

          • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

            nah–her whole package, her voice, her accent, her hair, her clothes, her taste, her indeterminate race–all thats exotic even for here. which is entertainment industry LA. if she was just really pretty, ie: kimberly, who i always thought at least as pretty as anya, she wouldnt have the same impact. &, yep, i’m sure she has an agent–or at least a manager. she obviously has representation. i dont know if she’s mentioned it.

            i just remembered stuff from when i was fiddling around as an actress-model so so many years ago. i feel bad about even mentioning it, thats why i erased it. she just raises my hackles high unto the sky. she did immediately & i ignored it, thinking i would give her a chance, but i was onto her early. i wish i hadnt been. as per: i doubt she’s still friends w/ laura, not unless she has a further use for her. after all the emergency-dyed colors have run in the wash, laura is gonna come out of this feeling very bad & very used. but she has only herself & her obliviousness to her own flaws & the flaws of those she admires, to thank.

            • Anonymous

              Last week I thought Viktor was a bit mean for refusing to help Anya. Guess who’s camp I’m in now?

    • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

      So ugly black dress wins (notice the model wearing Anya’s hairstyle).  Personally I don’t think Anya is such a beauty –heh — Kimberly on the other hand is way more gorgeous— and talented design wise.  And if this was Project Beauty Queen, I’d still call foul.  However, it is Project Runway and accordingly, not “Product” Runway which it has been turning out to be nor Project Make-up Artist, Project Stylist, but has been turning into, evidently “Project Little Match Girl.”

      So, in light of the past events of the last 3 episodes, I shall count what was a positive coming from this hot marketing tool mess– I know about Bert Keeter now, 

      • Anonymous

        “Project Little Match Girl” – excellent!

    • Anonymous

      Say what you will of Anya, she’s a born hustler. She’d probably sell the producers shit on a platter if she said “but I’ve only been pooping for one day!”

    • Anonymous

      Yep, just you watch.  Anya’s going to win…she’s reality TV gold: she’s a beauty queen, the “underdog” with a story (meaning she’s only been sewing for 5 minutes or whatever), and she’s got not just one, but like *5* sex tapes.  AND she looks like a caricature of a fashion designer.  Perfect!  Besides, I’m sure all the producers (male and female) secretly fantasize about her.

    • Anonymous

      To those who complain of the arbitrary, personality focused judging as though it’s a new thing rather than how it’s always been, remember the following:

      Santino Rice and the no good, very bad lingerie.
      Speaking of, the arm falling-off jumpsuit that somehow never became a thing.
      Wendy Pepper surfing on a wave of mediocrity right into the final three.
      Kenley Collins weaseling her way past Jerell with knockoffs, bizarre outbursts and a bizarre purple thing.

      Seriously guys, the judging always sucked.

      • Anonymous

        I’d say the judging has always been, um, strategically erratic.  There’s always been a pass given, at least occasionally, on the basis of good t.v.

        But it’s so much more insulting now because the talent pool seems shallower and it’s harder to come up with an even shaky explanation for a questionable choice.  It’s really, really, hard to give the benefit of the doubt because “well, this one sucked but he’s had some interesting ideas” when the designer in question *hasn’t* shown anything of interest, or any noticeable point of view.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I actually think last season’s designers were worse — there was so much undesigned crap walking that runway in the earlier challenges that I was beginning to think they didn’t shop at Mood but in Wal-mart’s women’s department. 

        • Anonymous

          I agree with your assessment of the cast, because they have sucked pretty hard so far. Of the group, really only Viktor, Kimberly and Bert have given much that I’ve been impressed by, and Bert is gone and Kimberly is fading fast.

          The best seasons, you almost didn’t notice the whack judging because there were a few pretty interesting designers overall so you could sort of convince yourself that maybe they had a point. It’s more obvious when the cast isn’t that good. Maybe someone needs to replace the casting director?

    • Terri M

      I’m with Lorenzo. Tom is nuts. I went from being meh about Anya to full-on hatred last night. It’s a really bad sign when I’m on Josh’s side. Wish I had some of the judges’ crack.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patricia-Clements/100000941516003 Patricia Clements

      Sorry to see Bert go, as he is for this season, is a true designer.  I love the classic looks he turns out and did not think this dress bad at all.  A lighter, fresher shade of grey (perhaps with a bit of tint to it) would have helped a lot.  Shopping time is too limited in my opinion.  When they announced an additional look my husband just about lost it; then the “designers” were told to pick one.  Well DH did lose it then.  I, too am mystified about the Anya obsession.  Her range is limited, construction skills obviously limited too–no zipper, again.  cut open the dress and sew the model into it!!?  And I did not like the extra fabric that pooched out below the models stomach.  And yes, her refusal to help Josh was, ungrateful, nasty and mean.  As much as I dislike Josh, and the majority of his work, his dress was much better.  Kimberly always seems to struggle and whine.  Not sure why she still is in the competition.  Not a stellar group this time.

      • Anonymous

        I never thought I’d be taking Josh’s side over Anya, but there you go. Girl finally revealed her true colours this week.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002673395871 Roadkill Writer’s Camp

      Anya’s beaky shoulder thingies and pope’s nose of bunched fabric in the back may be “structural” and “edgy” to the judges, but looks more like a peck fight in a tow sack to me. Her other look seemed much more praiseworthy, except for the armhole fringe.  

      Liked Bert’s beautiful, floaty skirt, and even with the scaley top (birds, crawlies, feathers, scales, shared ancestors, etc) was no more literal than other looks that got a pass. Not earth-shattering design, but graceful and wearable.  I sure would have liked to see his outfit with the long cape. 

    • Anonymous

      Poor Josh. I disagree with the Anya win. She wins with a poorly made Roland Mouret knock off . Odd that they didn’t want to see feathers in a Bird challenge (I kept hearing  Heidi say “Bert”) . Hated the after show roast. Love the Poe reference.

    • Anonymous

      Anybody else think ol’ Harvey Weinstein might be getting tired of his current model/ designer /trophy wife and might be in the market for a new beauty queen /designer /sex tape star/ trophy wife?

    • Anonymous

      They made the right choice.  The top of Bert’s outfit was classic Barbie.  I gained respect for him because he exited gracefully and humbly.  I lost respect for Anya when she made it clear she was not helping anyone else when others have been over the top in their support of her.  Be it sewing tips or $11 of extra money at Moods, she has survived in part due to the graciousness of others.  Kharma gal, kharma.  

    • http://www.ttelroc.blogspot.com Kristin_The_Goat

      I thought the After the Runway show was just awful.  It wasn’t even worth staying up to watch and if they have it again, and I’m sure they will, I’m not going to sit through it.  I don’t watch the Housewives and I’m not going to watch this crap.  I will still watch PR because no matter what (I hope!) I will remain faithful. 

      • Anonymous

        I’ll keep watching PR as long as T Lo keep blogging it. Or maybe not. Maybe I’ll just read their posts like I do with Glee and it will be enough.

    • Anonymous

      Well, I’m no longer drinking the Anya flavoured Kool-Aid, that’s for sure.
      As for After The Runway: Fuck you, Lifetime. I’m not watching it.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i got through about five minutes of it, maybe less, & i gotta say: you are right.
        & now i am back to work. oh heavens, were it not so.

    • Anonymous

      I’m sorry to say that this is the first episode that I have tried (and failed) to watch all the way through.  I have always watched knowing the “spoilers”– but even in the past, I could find a reason to watch, even if a designer I admired was auf’ed.  I made it through five minutes of the “after runway” show, and the minute the mean started I cut it off.  Tried to watch the full show, skipped to the runway, thought my thoughts, and didn’t need to hear the judges. 

      I’m just having so much trouble watching the “drama.”  I put up with it to see the sewing, but really, there’s so little sewing to watch any more…  Of the characters (oops, did I write that?) er, contestants left, only Kimberly and Victor seem more talent than cartoonishly-drawn-character driven.  The thing is (and I hate to say this because I think she is the most subtle of mean girls) I really did like Anya’s dress the best.  It had a tuxedo-with-tails quality that I found very elegant, and I could see it on a woman who likes to wear classic-with-a-twist (although I don’t think you could sit down in it and look o.k.).  Bert’s and Laura’s were the worst, although I think Laura’s was worse than Bert’s.  I listened to Bert’s interview on blogging project runway, and he said that his final collection was born out of not having to please the judges.  I look forward to what TLo have to say, as they are the only judges I really care about (as they seem less likely to be tweaking when they look at the collections).  

    • http://twitter.com/jennawaterford Jennifer Ford

      Bert lost me when he body-snarked the bird.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      Just watched After the Runway… Ouch. Laura does not hold back with her questions and opinions. She really is Bad Mommy. 

      *sigh* I can’t help thinking what Siriano and Seth Aaron would have done with the raven inspiration.

    • http://www.facebook.com/claudeth.forbin Claudeth Forbin

      TLo, I cannot beleive that you are making Joshua seem like a poor victim here.  He is a back-stabbling, obnoxious, oh words fail me.  Every challenge he thinks he has got it in the bag.  He barely is able to thank the winner.  So what Anya didn’t give him black fabric.  Vicktor would not have given him any fabric.  No one in the room would have given him fabric.  ALSO, the week before, Anya was giving people fabric for the Rock band challenge.  Bert gave Laura $150.  She wouldn’t have put him out if he was on fire.  Josh has not endeared himself to anyone.  Viktor is going to the finals, as is Anya, the question is, who else is going.  Because it ain’t going to be Ms. Laura.  So many of you just sound like jealous cats.  The girl is trying, I have not liked everything that anyone has sent down, but I give them the respect of having tried.  And it’s not like she brags, how great she is.  She takes her licks, when she sucked, Pocohantas and she is grateful for when she tries and succeeds.

      And Viktor isn’t all that.  Snarky !#!$@!#$$#$@.

      • http://twitter.com/ihatejoelkim Joel Kim Booster

        Thank you thank you thank you! I thought I was the only person who was a little confused by the anti-Anya vitriol spilling forth from commentators here. What’s even more bizarre are the conspiracy theories being jettisoned out by some. Let’s remember folks– we’re all watching the same show. How exactly are you inferring all this seeming menace behind every word and action of Anya’s? Because she’s a beauty queen? I don’t get it. 

    • Sharada Narasimhan

      Does anyone think that “After the Runway” pretty much gives away the winner? It was clearly shot after the episodes started airing because Josh mentions Laura’s blog. Everybody seemed pretty bitter especially towards Anya. It seems very obvious that she finished ahead of all of them and hence is the winner (unless Laura finished ahead of her. If you want to believe that…) 

    • Anonymous

      So you’re saying that the PR of the past wasn’t about drama-sucking vortexes and beauty queens? And . . . producer manipulation is why the whole team needed to produce a second dress? I think it is clear that Anya’s first dress would also have stolen the prize. I am amazed that both of you and the commenters are suddenly having amnesia regarding Josh’s disgusting behavior throughout. Why should Anya give Josh fabric? Has he been a person worthy of such kindness, in such a challenge? All episode, Anya was kind regarding all of her competitors’ designs. Yet Josh was a nasty prick, blaming his failure on Anya playing a game. He is a poor loser and sore sport, and I’m shocked to see people defending him.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        nobody’s having amnesia. she followed him around like a piece of velvety velcro until it became obvious that she was more important than he was then cut him loose as if he were a sandfly about to give her leishmaniasis.

        i certainly dont like him any better now than i did a month ago. i like her less, but it’s cos it’s become more than obvious that she is more manipulative & unkind than i, or anyone here, wouldve thought {people nobody here’s ever seen before jumping on to defend her all at once is just a tiny corner of that}.

        cant say i like viktor, either. though he is more talented than she is.

        the only one i liked that lasted this long was bert. but if they were molding challenges in his favor the people here, myself among them, wouldve gotten just as annoyed.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        I disagree that Anya did anything but use Josh’s behavior when given the chance. Have you forgotten the team challenge with Josh, Becky, and Anya? She stood back and let his behavior work for her, until it became an issue where she might start to look bad on camera, then she was playing both sides. In my opinion, she’s a manipulative person. 
         I actually don’t blame Anya for not giving him fabric. I agree with her that he shouldn’t have been asking at that point, but she wasn’t punishing him for bad behavior, she was being competitive.

        • http://twitter.com/ihatejoelkim Joel Kim Booster

          What would you have had her do in that situation? She did what any smart person on a team with a sociopath and weeping willow would do: She consoled Becky and tried to calm Josh. I don’t see that as “playing both sides” I see that as trying to make sure her team didn’t dissolve into a mess of screams and tears. Call it manipulation if you want, but I don’t see it as malice. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

            I didn’t say she was malicious. She is manipulative in my opinion. From the beginning of the team challenge with Becky she stood back until she saw which way the wind was blowing. Josh started cutting Becky out from the beginning, and she didn’t say a word. 

      • Anonymous

        For me, I don’t feel it was just Josh that she would not help. Her attitude when she was explaining her choice, was that she would NOT help anyone. So I don’t think she would have helped, Bert, Kim, Barbie or anyone else.  IF all these people had not just helped her a day or two ago, I would not feel the way I do.  However a bunch of people came to her side when she needed help and she made it very clear that she would not do the same for anyone else.  That is showing her true colors.

    • Anonymous

      In and of itself, I liked the challenge idea, sort of – if they had gone to an aviary to get inspiration, that would have made more sense. It’s not inspiration if you’re assigned it. Then, of course, they had to turn it into an infomercial and add nonsensical twists (you’re in teams – but you’re not! it’s two looks – but it’s one! Francisco Costa – but he has a beard! Never-mind on that last one).

      I don’t hate Anya’s dress – it was, in fact, clearly better than Laura’s. I thought her other dress was far more interesting, but there were good strategic reasons for choosing the one she chose. Not that it mattered, since she could have defecated on her model and the judges would have praised her (“We’re blown away. Birds do that, too! It’s just amazing – who thinks of that?”), but it was smart to choose the piece that was different from her previous work. It was decidedly not, however, the winning look.

      I like Bert, but I do not like what he made in this challenge. I liked his other idea more, but if I recall it wasn’t looking so great in its realization. He made a mistake in going literal with colour and then trying to hide those colours because he didn’t like them, when he should have used them as an inspiration point for something that felt bright and tropical. But, you either are or are not inspired by something, you don’t choose to be inspired by it (which is the problem with these sort of challenges) – and he was not inspired by that parrot.

      Farewell to Bert. You went from being loved by the audience, to being hated, to being loved again. And you leave the show, dignity at least partly intact.

    • Anonymous

      I have to say, my husband recorded the show for me, but for the first time in the history of it, I don’t really care about watching it. Ho hum. Lifetime, you have managed to bore one of your most loyal fans. Take notice, please.

    • Anonymous

      I skipped “After the Runway” as I simply didn’t want to see any more drama or hear Josh’s voice.

    • bethannstamps

      of course Anya wins it. never mind skill sets, the judges love her. i don’t beleive for a minute that she only started sewing 4 mths ago, not much longer than that but still she isn’t telling the whole truth here. i wasn’t surprised when she refused to share either, she’s a taker after all. poor Bert. like Laura i married and divorced him several times, and isn’t that imagery perfect?, love Laura forever. but he really redemmed himself by the end and Josh is still a whiney two yr old with an attitude. he can dish it out but don’t critize him cuz he can’t take it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JQSQJRAL4YYWB2OZNHNUHKZAEY Christopher

      Duck… sharks flying overhead….  apart from Viktor there is no one on this show I’d like to see win…  and from I can tell …(I don’t look at the final collections til the end)…  his did not set anyone on fire. 

    • Tiffanie Bright

      Tom & Lorenzo,

      I absolutely enjoy your witty and intelligent reviews. And if no one has mentioned it (I can’t scan 500+ comments), I caught the Edgar A. Poe reference. And laughed out loud.

      Damn, y’all are good.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s dress looks uglier and more home ec class every time I see a picture of it.  She took the sides of a sack dress and attached them in the center, OMG CONSTRUCTION.  As much of a bitch as CC might be, I think his complaint that the models frequently need to be cut out of Anya’s garments is very apt and gets to the heart of why I hate that she’s gotten so much judge worship. If the model had to be cut out of this huge shapeless black sack, that really shows that Anya is not designing clothing, she’s doing fabric decoupage.

      • Anonymous

        I think the best response to this arguement came from Nick Verreos in his blog:-

         “Here’s the deal: I know it’s frustrating when you see and know how some of your fellow designers can barely construct a garment but then are able to”Make It Work” come runway time. We all must come to realize that the judges don’t care how the model gets into the outfit and arrives on the runway. They turn a blind eye to sloppy hand-sewing and glue guns. Yes, they praise good construction and sewing, but they praise design, presentation, good taste level and the “It Factor” more. There is NOTHING in the “Project Runway” Rulebook that says that it needs to be made so well that it can be sold in a store and worn by an actual non-model in an everyday situation THAT NIGHT. Is it fair? No. But again, as Ms. Kors has repeated several times this season, “It’s NOT Project Seamstress, it’s Project RUNWAY.”

    • Anonymous

      I am not sure I have ever rooted for Josh for  a win, but I sure as hell was today.  I honestly do not see what the love for Anya’s dress is here.  It certainly looked better moving then it does in pictures. I’ve looked at a few sites and not in one does it look good…not even the magazine ad. It does look costumey to me. I actually liked it better on TV.  As for her attitude towards helping everyone who just helped you two days ago?  Yeah. I think reality TV is just like alcohol. Your true colors show through.  You called that one Tlo.  My daughter watches this with me and she has loved Anya, and today she said “She isn’t a good person.”  I couldn’t argue.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QVNXE5PQQVTSQHG77WZA3VRL5Q Alli Lon

        I don’t know how your daughter could make a comment like then when she doesn’t even know Anya personally. I don’t either. But I appreciate something she said in one of her interviews…”People aren’t one dimensional.” You shouldn’t evaluate them as if they are. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/drunkenhousewife Drunken Housewife

          When I read something like “my daughter watches this with me… and she said”, I assume the daughter in question is a small child.  Small children see the world in a much more black and white way than adults do and speak in more  strong voices.  They don’t need to be scolded about being judgmental… they will grow out of their ways on their own.

          I myself thought less of Anya after that episode, but being a middle-aged person, take a more nuanced view than, say, an elementary schooler.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I don’t scold in that case, but I do take the opportunity to teach a quick lesson on editing and spin for my kindergartner.  Which my mother tells me is too advanced for her, at which point I’m forced to point out that she’s the same age I was when my mother was explaining to me trade policies with China and I was up till 2 am watching my first election returns.

        • Anonymous

          As I said, my daughter, who yes is young (she loves watching the runways and is a very very nice judge. She doesn’t understand why someone has to lose), but she has always been an Anya fan (though she doesn’t like her mohawk).  She is young and she knows when someone asks for help, you help. She knows when Anya needed help a few days ago, they helped her. To not help back is not an indication of a nice person to her.  Yes it is simplistic and it is black and white…but am not going to really scold her for wanting people to be nice and help each other out.

          No people are not one dimensional however even as Anya said herself in After the Runway (which I watched without my daughter), if she was her teammates she wouldn’t be happy with her either.  Anya is playing a game, and she is doing it very well.

          My daughter also wanted Kimberly to win, because she felt bad for her, seeing as she had a very bad day :)

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            How old is she?  That sounds like something my daughter would say and she’s 5.  We have a lot of those kind of conversations at both PR and Glee.  (Which is the PERFECT way to start the “gay/straight” conversation.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ehormell Eric Hormell

      The reason the designers were only using one model is because the producers planned to have them show one look. I liked that aspect of the challenge; designers always make looks that ultimately don’t get shown.

      The bird-inspired eyeshadow aspect of the challenge, though, was stupid.

    • shanna bowie

      I think we can complain about product placement all we want but at the end of the day a show like this must be pretty expensive to shoot and that means when we see product placement, they didn’t have to pay for the fabric that week or whatever cause the tab was being picked up by L’Oreal. Then they have to do all these decoy collections and the cost of everything is constantly going up. I can’t be too mad at that. 

      • Anonymous

        Reality television is not expensive to shoot.  But PR is the perfect venue for product placement to offset their costs.  Why not take free money?  But I think we’ve reached a saturation point this season.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          It depends on the reality TV.  You still have the cost of the cameras and operators, as well as production staff.  In this case, you also have the cost of every designer’s budget — which can be several thousand in early episodes.  Not to mention the muslin and thread that isn’t included in the challenge budget.  You also have all of the living expenses, which includes multiple apartments and food for the cast, which doesn’t go down as the contestants do since they’re all sequestered and still being provided for.  In a year with 10 decoys, that’s 80K in JUST materials.  That doesn’t include the cost of the models, or the space at FW for the show. 

          It’s cheap — when compared to scripted TV which requires you to pay for writers and actors, neither of whom come cheep. 

          And it’s not just free money, it’s also free product.  By doing the L’Oreal episode, they get free make-up and application all season.  Otherwise that’s a healthy chunk of change: think how much it costs to hire someone for a bridal party.  Garnier, same thing with hair.  HP gives them the tech to do both sketching (for people like me who canNOT draw, this is a must!) and the printers for the textile design challenge, which is a really cool thing for the designers.  At least the current sponsors make sense — what the hell did Saturn ever have to do with fashion?!? 

          • Anonymous

            That sounds like a lot of money but it is nothing compared to the revenue brought in through advertising. 

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              But the ad revenues DON’T go to the show — they go to the network.  The show doesn’t make any more money whether the ad revenues go up.  I think their current deal (if I remember correctly) is through season 10, and depending on the contract terms they may be locked in to a certain budget.  Product placement allows them to stretch that.

              I wouldn’t care if every challenge was a sponsored one AS LONG AS IT PRODUCES LEGITIMATE RESULTS.  Which means the looks should be good (or at least have the chance to be good — the Sheepdogs, for instance, were never going to produce really great results) and judging should be fair, consistent and meet standards that the designers were informed of ahead of time. 

              For instance:
              Garnier — Design a look to go with a hair show style (great way to showcase the products’ abilities and some of those things are so OTT that the designers could really do something cool)
              NY Tourism Board — the standard “NY inspiration” challenge
              Movie — design a look for the red carpet for X actress at the premiere of X movie.
              HP — fabric challenge (which I love)
              Marie Claire — team challenge to make looks for an editorial spread
              Canon/Kodak/Nikon — photograph inspiration challenge

              That’s half a season right there!  (I didn’t include L’Oreal, because I think their challenge is usually fine.)

    • Anonymous

      This season truly marks the beginning of the end. It’s sad to watch one of your favorite shows go down like this.

    • Gary Cox

      If they wanted to stir up conflict who better to invite back than Laura, the master of creating conflict and then sitting back and acting as if she had nothing to do with it? What has been Michael Kors mantra all season? Is it Project Runway or Project Seamstress? Laura would have won Project Seamstress hands down! Kudos to Joshua for standing up to her. What was interesting was seeing Victor and Anya trying to console him during her attack. Somewhere Kayne Gillespie was smiling.

      • Anonymous

        Instead of asking Josh how he perceived his own behavior, Laura asked “were you embarrassed at yourself”.  That was an attack which I didn’t care for.  However, Josh spent the first half of the season attacking others brutally so he had no right to take affront at Laura.  I think B/M set Laura up to be the bitch and she gladly said yes.  I’m not sure that was a good decision.  I hated that Viktor and Anya were defending his behavior after the fact because it was indefensible.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          My response to her asking “Were you embarrassed at yourself?”  would have been “No.  Are you embarrassed that instead of a career as a successful architect, you’ve been reduced to the role of Jerry Springer for a Lifetime show about fashion?” 

    • Anonymous

      i love (read:hate) how heidi et al seem to bring up things that happen in the workroom only conveniently – or only what the producers have whispered in their ears. they somehow knew about kimberly’s glue gun mishap, but let anya off the hook for not having a closure on her dress. any other contestant, and i guaran-effing-tee you that one of the judges would have asked, “but can you explain how she gets in and out of this dress?” nope, not for precious little anya! not sure if that is an oversight made by the judges or the producers, but i think it makes the game a little unfair. either they should be informed of everything that happens in the workroom or they should be informed of nothing.

      and anya not giving up her fabric was made even nastier by the fact that she lied about her reasoning — “a few challenges ago” does NOT equal “last challenge.”

      and i don’t particularly care for josh, but when he came back into the waiting area and anya was just pushing, pushing, pushing him, i felt a little sorry for the kid. she knew exactly what the eff she was doing. everyone can see that josh is a grenade just waiting to be set off – cozying up on the couch with a fake ass grin, asking, “what’s wrong?! what’s wrong?!” is exactly the wrong thing to do. you know what the hell is wrong, miss thang. he just lost $20,000 to the likes of you. drop it.

      • Anonymous

        There’s no requirement to have a closure in a garment from what I understand.  It just has to go from the workroom to the runway.  After that, it just goes on a mannequin if it is the winner or loser.  It can always be sewn onto the mannequin just like the model.
        Josh had a legitimate chance to win this week and I actually preferred his entry over all the others.  The corsage didn’t bother me in the least.  But I thought it was slightly hilarious that he realized that Anya was outmaneuvering him.  I think he thought he was the only one.

        • Anonymous

          i also preferred josh’s. i see how anya won, but i still feel she was let off the hook (as usual) and if it were another designer they probably would have been asked something like “oh, is that an invisible zipper back there?” or whatever, just to address the concern as brought up by josh.  i may be revising history, but i feel like i’ve seen the judges grill other contestants on “sewing the model into the garment.”

          • Anonymous

            When a garment is black, bad construction is often overlooked.  It hides a myriad of flaws.  If I were a contestant and I wasn’t feeling terribly inspired by a challenge, I would automatically design something black because it’s more easy to skate by. 

            • Anonymous

              that’s very true… i suppose she was lucky she got the raven, then. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I think that’s a bit unfair.  Tim has said before that the judging sessions go on for HOURS.  Some things, like the glue gun incident, may have been mentioned in other portions that didn’t make the final cut.  (Nina herself referenced this kind of thing when she mentioned how Anthony Ryan had been derivative and had been warned before, but we’d never seen it on the show until then.)

        • Anonymous

          the glue gun thing was mentioned by heidi this week.

          i know they have to pick and choose what workroom mishaps/mistakes the designers get questioned about, at least in the editing stage. but if josh is shown complaining about it, then i think they should have shown anya addressing that complaint – even if it’s in a confessional.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I agree completely.  The choices they’ve made in editing this year are very strange.  The reason I mentioned it was because of the thing with Nina objecting to AR in the pet store challenge because it was reminiscent of McQueen, which they cut, and then she referenced the criticism in the stilt challenge, which they left in.  So viewers who don’t watch or follow all the online stuff wouldn’t have any idea what she was talking about!   

    • Anonymous

      Is it just me, or is something wrong with this picture? Here’s an excerpt from the “about” on Anya’s web-page:

      “Hailing from Trinidad and Tobago, she launched her women’s label, PILAR, in May 2009 and it has been making waves ever since. In June 2010, she launched a lingerie line named Anya de Rogue, the first of its kind in the Caribbean.

      A graduate of Parsons School of Design and Central St Martins School of Art and Design, Anya spent several years working as a designer in New York City until in 2007 she returned home after her eighteen-year old brother Pilar died tragically in a car accident. Soon after the move, Anya was selected to represent her country at the Miss Universe pageant.” 

      http://tinyurl.com/429k6m6

      A Parsons Grad??? She spent “several years” working as a designer??? Launched 2 lines of clothing???

      How does that fit in with her ” I just learned how to sew 4 months ago” ???

      • Anonymous

        *blinks*

        and how did all this info get past the judges?!

      • Anonymous

        Ok, that is really weird. I thought the whole thing was that she was self-taught like Kimberly. Which is why Josh was going on so much on the hiddy after the runway ordeal about how he gave her the benefit of his costly education. Or can you go to two top design schools and start two labels without ever having to sew? I am neutral on Anya but that is very very peculiar.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Yes, actually, that’s very possible.  Designers don’t generally sew.  For one thing, it’s impossible for ONE person to make everything for a line.  They have to send it out or they’ll never have enough pieces for sale.

      • Anonymous

        Anya studied Communication (graphic) Design at Parsons and earned a BFA. She worked in NY as a stylist and graphic artist and while she has designed both her Pilar and AnyadeRogue lines, the garments are made up, ie constructed and sewn by seamstresses You can check out her work here http://www.anyaayoungchee.com/

        • Anonymous

          Yes, I actually get that; I linked to my quote from the same site. But her various bio “stories” don’t pass the smell test, IMO. Even on the Lifetime website, she says in her bio Q and A that she sewed and consulted on her outfits for the Miss Universe Pageant in 2008. That was more than 4 months ago.

          • Anonymous

            As must be obvious, Anya has her very own sense of style and as she was not a naive 18 tear old when she became Miss T&T, but rather a comparatively sophisticated 25, with the added experience of being a NY based fashion stylist for a couple of years, she was allowed some input into the design of some of her outfits.
             
            About designing in T&T… it is common for women here to walk into seamstress with a photo or sketch and say ‘Make me that!’ It also helped that the franchise holder and main designer became her mentors when she developed a passion for fashion! So armed with her own ideas of C’bean style and taste and a team of excellent seamstresses plus hard work and creative marketing, voila, Pilar! And then Delia Alleyne invested 4 months of hard work into getting her as ready as possible to construct the garments she conceived during the show. 

            • Anonymous

              It’s obvious she’s had, and continues to get, a lot of help from all corners. Even here.

            • mc90

              @ annaplurabelle: I’m with you. There’s something highly disingenuous about claiming she’s only been sewing for 4 months. Even though it may—technically—be true, it gives a deliberately false impression.

            • Anonymous

              I guess the misunderstanding comes from the fact that we, viewers, (and by that I mean “me”) basically expect all contestants to design, tailor and sew every single garment they have and will ever make. And that’s just not the case.
              From the very beginning I was very dubious about the 4 months experience. I don’t saw, I wouldn’t know where to begin and 4 months would never be enough for me to have her level of construction if it was my starting point. And I think 4 months was definitely not her starting point of design and studying tailoring and seaming.
              Did she begin to saw 4 months before the show ? Maybe, maybe not.
              Yes, it’s all very elusive and not very clear in a fishy way. And, what I found worse is the way Heidi constantly marvel at her little protégée like she’s some kind of genius.
              But what is sure is that Anya is a businesswoman busy building her brand and PR is as good as any launchboard.

            • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

              i think if you have a lot of money, & a really good set-up {kind of like an individual version of what they have on PR}–yep, you can learn to sew in four months. especially if yr doing it intensively & w/ an important goal in mind.

              yes, absolutely, you can get out of art or design school w/o learning to sew. i dont actually know anyone who learned to sew in either place– you’d have to go someplace like FIDM for that, or even trade tech. if she went to school in graphic design it wouldnt even have been mentioned.

              that said, i dont know if you can get out of someplace like junior high w/o learning to sew. i am unsure how many schools have dropped home economics, or whether theyve just made them unisex as per years ago. & i dont know if schools in the islands have dropped them or changed them at all.

              that said, i dont even know if she went to school in the islands. the only thing i  know is that there’s always been enough money floating around in her purview so she could intensively train to sew, put together a first class workroom in which to do it, go to college in the states &, apparently, wear louboutin shoes.

              even the people who like her, i think, were all fed a crock o’nonsense by her publicity machine & the publicity machine behind her win on PR.

            • Anonymous

              Do you really think that with all the internet access they have, that the designers themselves haven’t checked her out? Not to mention their own observations? They seem to have no doubt.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              The designers have NO internet access during filming and they wouldn’t have been able to look into it beforehand because they don’t know who else will be there.  They may have discovered it later but we’d never know that.

              And if the producers have decided they like that narrative, they certainly aren’t going to show designers questioning it — that’ll get cut in editing.

            • Anonymous

              Yes.

            • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

              So she’s kind of like that OC Housewife who started her own vanity line.  Whatevs.  I don’t respond to Anya’s aesthetic like the judges do mostly because the stuff she designs is very basic, using prints to do the heavy lifting.  A 3 seam wonder.  I don’t understand the judges but then, look how they handed the prize to Gretchen last season, supposedly Gretch had her design sensibility on their idea of where they thought fashion was going.  Just like they dumped on Gordana who’s talent is leagues above both Gretch and Anya.  The one thing that really blows my mind is that a 25 year old woman joined Miss Universe pageant.

            • Anonymous

              Thank-you for the info. It makes a lot of sense and fits into the picture I had of Anya’s experience.

              It’s obvious from her work on the show that she’s got a much better eye for a garment than she has the ability to  produce one (IMO).

              And I think she’s been technically pretty truthful – but she’s playing the game (well) and isn’t going to correct any helpful mistaken impressions her technical truthfulness let arise.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            What I heard her say was that she collaborated on the design of her Miss Universe outfits, not that she sewed them. 

            • Anonymous

              http://tinyurl.com/6efas7p

              Q&A : Anya Ayoung’s TAKE:

              Q: What was the first garment you ever made?

              A: A slouchy gray jumpsuit that I wore to Miss Universe.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              NO WAY does a Miss Universe contestant go on in something she’s made completely with her own two little hands if she’s never made a garment before.  She could be using “made” in any number of ways, though — it might be the first she sewed on, it might be the first she sewed completely on her own, it might be the first she designed and had made without input. 

            • Anonymous

              She could also be using “wore” in any number of ways.  She didn’t necessarily wear it on stage or in public at the pageant.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Oh yeah, I didn’t think of that — she did say “wore TO the Miss Universe pageant”.  Maybe it was what she wore on the plane on the way there:)

    • http://fafafab.tumblr.com/ fafafab

      the expression of Joshua’s face when Anya won gave me LIFE, I hate that mothefucker so much I don’t care who wins what as long as it makes him angry

      oh and also Victor, he’s such a douche, loved it when Kim snapped her fingers on his face HOW D’YOU LIKE THAT?

    • http://twitter.com/ihatejoelkim Joel Kim Booster

      Oh please. I didn’t think of Anya as nasty at all for refusing Josh fabric. Let’s look at the two of them side by side: Josh has been horrible to almost everyone in that design room. He’s flailed about, had tantrums and generally been obnoxious at every turn. Anya’s given up her own fabric, consoled other designers when they’ve been upset and mostly stayed on the sidelines for any major confrontations throughout the season.

      When the designers helped Anya out, it made sense. Whether you think she’s being manipulative or not (for my money, I don’t think she is, but I know I’m in the minority here) at the very least she’s been pleasant and kind to the other designers. There IS a difference there. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Oh, I think she’s been manipulating people — I just don’t see it as a character flaw. 

        • http://twitter.com/ihatejoelkim Joel Kim Booster

          I can get behind that. 

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Some of the reaction to Anya reminds me of the criticism I heard from my older siblings for years:  “You’re spoiled!”  As if I should stop — who in their right mind chooses to not be spoiled?!?  It’s a damn good deal for the person receiving it! 

            Yeah, she’s gotten a lot more help than I would give (and I’m a fairly generous soul), which has allowed her to do far more than she could have otherwise.  Again, who turns that down?!?  I think that’s more of an issue with the other designers, none of whom seem to have the sense god gave a goat.

      • Anonymous

        No, I agree with you. I don’t think she’s being malicious or manipulative. I just think she’s very shrewd. 

    • mc90

      I LOVE it when you use literary references, allusions, and bon mots. Smooches quoth I –Emmylou

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      who are all these people & why are they here.

      • mc90

        There’s something highly disingenuous about Anya’s claiming she’s only been sewing for 4 months. Even though it may—technically—be true, it gives a deliberately false impression.

      • Anonymous

        Looks like there’s a little public relations damage repair going on. Whether it’s by Anya’s people, BM or Lifetime (most likely in my view) is hard to say. Although I’m sure they subscribe to the “any publicity is good publicity”, I suspect they’d rather not repeat the brand-damaging backlash of last season.

    • http://twitter.com/TheScottFinley Scott Finley

      TLo, I have to admit that this episode kind of did it in for me. I don’t mind some of the drama-enhancing stunts/editing that producers do.  It’s a given.  The current production company is notorious for that. No, what killed it is week after week of twists and turns that were obviously thought up well after the challenge was under way, designed to give one certain designer either an edge or at least save her from elimination. That’s a fix, and while I know most reality TV is not “reality,” once I know something is fixed, I lose interest. I just lost interest.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        thank you.
        ibid a thousand times.

    • Anonymous

      Instead of After the Runway, I’d rather see what goes on in the apartments of the people who have been ousted. 

    • Anonymous

      I knew Bert and Laura were bottom two but I was surprised but Bert’s elimination. That crap Laura pushed down the aisle has been more dated than Bert’s on many (including and especially this) occasion. This was for me the most wrong auf’ing of the season. SO I guess it will Anya, Viktor and Josh for the final. Still my money (for many weeks now) is on Viktor. 

    • Anonymous

      Did anyone else notice the saturation drop on the orange dress of Josh’s after the commercial break? We went to commercial and the dress was competition orange…when we came back it was nearly salmon in every frame. SO ODD. PS I hated his dopey dress. The bottom looked like those mental curtains from the eighties suburbanites stuffed with newspaper.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        I’m not getting the love for that dress either. I hated the color, and it looked shapeless.

    • Anonymous

      I’m interested to read what you think should have been the winning entry this week, since obviously (?) Anya didn’t deserve it (?).  Josh, perhaps? If his corsage was solid orange, and didn’t have those terrible yellow feather things sticking out, it could have grabbed the win, I guess?

    • Anonymous

      The Bert love is kind of sickening, as if people forgot how he behaved the first 2/3rds of this season. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=521921974 Ellen Novak Tiene

      Bert rocks.  I was so hoping that he would make it to the end.  I truly appreciated his “no drama” approach to things – it was refreshing to have someone who approached his design like an adult.  

    • Anonymous

      Am I just have a little conspiracy moment here or does anyone else think the producers may be setting up Anya for some kind of comeuppance? Maybe a big reveal that she has been sewing longer than 4 months or…??? The way she has been glorified by the judges over the season makes it look like she’s cruising into the win, but essentially that’s kind of boring. So maybe they’re planning some big scandalous Anya busting event? Because otherwise, I don’t see any reason to keep watching. The drama is actually gone at this point.

      • Anonymous

        Could be. I personally don’t think it matters much whether she has or hasn’t sewed for 4 months (Most of her work looks like it was made by someone with very little hands on experience). If the judges have been giving her extra points for having done well “considering”, it’s their bad, not Anya’s. They certainly aren’s supposed to grade on a curve. Usually if they find someones weakness (self taught , costume designer ,new grad act..) they will use it against the designer NOT take it into consideration.
        It does seem that Anya is the predetermined winner. I’m not even sure that she’s in on the fix. A lot of people that have extra advantages are completely unaware of it.

      • Logo Girl

        I think Heidi wants to create the sense of taking the reigns back on the show after being strong-armed against her choice for the winner last season. Anya has been her pick since the beginning. I think Heidi likes her “underdog” status, and seems to be wanting to say “See, pretty girls who can’t sew (you know, like me!) can win this as well!” With an almost inevitable Anya win, Heidi (ostensibly) gains authority and creates a narrative that appeals to the vast demographic of attractive young girls who lack study skills but have dreamed of making pretty dresses for pretty people since they were five.

      • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

        I think she’s being set up to win, and then she’s going to become a host for another Lifetime reality competition based on designing.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          i think theyre gonna do something w/ her, though why they had to jump through all these hoops & give her a bigger shot than she needed while denying someone who really wanted to be a designer & not a television personality both an audience & check large enough to give him or her a real boost in that arena, that i do not know.

          though, come to think of it, they are tv people, after all &, as such, what they see is the world revolving around tv. &, of course, so many of the previous contestants do involve themselves in PR’s post-programming, long after theyve won or shouldve won & either way, started a professional design career. so maybe it is all an entire bucket o’ stageblood & always has been. too bad, too.

          edited cos boy, i am tired today.
          back to work now.

    • Anonymous

      WHERE IS THE BERT LOVE COMING FROM. Everyone else must have been watching a different show than me the first half of this season.  And yes, I do realize he had a nice little “redemption” arc and learned to be nicer and everyone was sad to see him go etc., but COME ON. This is the guy that drove sweet little Anthony Ryan to say “I haven’t been this pissed off since I had cancer.”

      I’m not saying I’m *happy* Bert got auf’d, and I’m surprised he got it this week too. I just don’t get the outpouring of grief over it, like we lost some (a) visionary designer or (b) mother theresa figure.

      • Anonymous

        You’re the first poster to use those terms, actually.  I think your dislike for Bert is hyper-inflating your perception of the comments.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        No, we’re all watching the same show, unless there’s another show featuring designers named Bert, Anthony Ryan, Laura et al. It’s just that there’s more to Bert than how he behaved in the first few episodes. He’s, in fact, a multi-faceted person.

        There’s nothing complicated to understand here. You don’t like Bert, some of us do.

    • http://profiles.google.com/katelynsypher Katie Sypher

      Three words about Anya’s so-called masterpiece: Victoria Beckham knock-off.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C65IT4K6RYN4TWRMFJOI3VUDAI Olechka Milashka

        You don’t have to go far to look for her inspiration.  Her look was almost exact replica of Victor’s dress for the Nina Garcia challenge.

        • Anonymous

          Really/ Seriously? With a different neckline, hemline., shape, structure and sleeve? The only similarity is the colour and length! But it’s just fashionable to bitch on Anya, I guess.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDI2DLE7DE3YPW2ONIHBWOVHMA ecallaw

            Oh, come on–you don’t think Anya’s look is quite reminiscent of Victor’s?

            http://wpc.4d27.edgecastcdn.net/004D27/ProjectRunway/PRS9Episode4_Part%204/PRS9E4P3+Viktor+1.jpg

          • http://profiles.google.com/katelynsypher Katie Sypher

            There’s no question that the girl’s got talent, but I’m not going to fall all over her for pulling off a dress that several others have already made and made better. It was nice to see that she could do something different – a solid color, structured shape – but this was not a revolutionary garment.

    • http://twitter.com/TwiterlessTerri Terri

      Sadly, early this season I found that all of this season of PR that I need, I get from reading T Lo’s commentary.  I miss the earlier seasons, but I probably won’t watch any more after this one.  Sad.

    • Logo Girl

      I bet Gunnar Deatherage would have done a bang-up job on the bird challenge.

    • http://twitter.com/drnels Nels P. Highberg

      I actually don’t think producers decided not to have both looks in the show at the last minute because they had to make the dresses for the exact same measurements.  They knew each model would only wear one look from the start.  I was really confused at the thought of models having to change outfits in the middle of a show.  I know that happens on real runways, but not with only five other models walking.  There’s no time.  Then, when they said one look was out, it all made sense.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I was confused why they did it as 1 look, then 2 looks, then back to 1.  I would have been fine with them dropping a look, if they had been told at the beginning that they had to do 2 looks and then the twist was dropping one.  The extra twist just bugged me.

    • Anonymous

      I wait in vain for a photo from this year’s season that shows a model with a good make-up job or hair ‘do. 

      • Anonymous

        YES.

        Since I know they originally did not pay the models, then they took away most of their ‘on camera’ personal interactions, and now they seem to have shipped in the B or C team for hair & make-up, at what point are they going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for models?    (granted the bottom of the barrel in NYC is a little different than in, say, Raleigh or Austin)

      • Anonymous

        THIS.

    • Julie Clark

      KIM WAS ROBBED. the whole time i was thinking ‘if they give anya the win, i’mma have to choke-a-bitch.’ it looked like something we HAVE seen before, and something that viktor already did earlier in the season. also, i’m sorry, but i don’t want my frontal region to be larger than it is, and her dress did that. SO SICK of their heads up her ass. srsly.

    • Yvonne Spencer

      Quite honestly, T-Lo, I have to say that I thought the front of Anya’s dress looked like a giant vagina.  It appalled me that she won.  And I’m going to miss Bert, just a wee bit.

    • http://twitter.com/poptartsjen Pop Tarts Jen

      I usually don’t worry too much about whether producers interfere in reality TV shows, as long as it’s not too obvious, but with the one look-two looks-one look twist, it was OBVIOUS even to me that this was so that Anya didn’t get screwed by the fact that she has to sew her models into their dresses. And even though I haven’t terribly liked Josh this season, I didn’t blame him for getting bitchy about Anya winning again … I actually liked his dress pretty well, and he didn’t have to sew the model into it! 

    • http://paintingchef.myopenid.com/ Susannah

      I should probably read through all the comments before I ask this question but… there’s almost 750 of them and I have a stack of work on my desk.  So… any chance of finding out about the dress Heidi wore when she gave the designers the challenge?  I was IN LOVE with that gorgeous thing.  Thanks!!

    • Adella Thompson

      Couldn’t stay away from After the Runway. As as random tangent, I think that Viktor looked totally adorable in his little t-shirt. I have to say less Josh, please! I support Bert’s original approach of just ignoring him and hoping he’ll go away. Miss you Bert!

    • http://twitter.com/Bruckleberry Melissa Hilker

      HAHAHA! Nicely done on the “nevermore.”