PR: Crash and Burn at The Clinique Counter

Posted on October 02, 2011

Could it be, kittens? Could it be possible that the cracks are finally showing in the narcissistic facade? Because this was the first time this season where it seemed like all of the designers and even all of the judges were aware of his shortcomings, both the creative ones and the personality-based ones. Are we witnessing the end of everyone making excuses for this queen? Oh, PR deities, make it so!

Although we really wish someone had countered his lame “I didn’t live during the ’70s” excuse with “YOU GOT A DOSSIER LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, ASSHEAD.”

Because this? Not REMOTELY ’70s.

In fact, it’s kind of stunning how he managed to put together an outfit with so many design elements and couldn’t even luck into accidentally including some from the ’70s. It’s almost as if he actively rejected the entire decade.



Let’s run this down: tuxedo shirt, neon pink, skinny pants, black and white, leopard print, and pattern mixing. We guarantee not one of these elements were anywhere to be found in that dossier. Had this been an ’80s challenge, he might have wound up in the Top 3 (if you ignore the lousy proportions); THAT’s how far off-base he was. He made a look that was straight out of 1983. It was really odd. We suspect he was paying far more attention to what was going on on the other dress forms in the room than he was to what could be found in that dossier.

The only thing he managed to accomplish was to get the judges to finally start seriously discussing his taste issues and bad instincts.

And that conversation spilled over to this look, although we think it was slightly less warranted.


This was closer to the mark by virtue of being a maxi-dress, but we think it also inadvertently revealed his lack of knowledge. It’s likely he looked around the room, saw other designers making maxi-dress-inspired looks and decided to put his own twist on them. The problem is, he managed to make a maxi-dress that ALSO avoids using any ’70s elements outside the length of the skirt. The buckle straps, the criss-cross belt, the fitted, bustier-like top, high waist, and neon print are all recognizably NOT ’70s. You might argue that this was an “updated” version, but we don’t agree. It’s a maxi-dress made by someone who has no idea what maxi-dresses looked like almost 40 years ago.

Taken on its own, it’s not a bad garment (unlike the previous look), so we tend to think the judges going on about the ugly fabric (which really wasn’t that bad) was a bit of an over-reaction.

But when you look at them side by side and couple that with both his lame excuses and his clear inability to handle (let alone even listen to) any sort of criticism, we think the judges just got fed up with him.

And when the show goes out of its way to show this bad reaction, and then to show an even worse reaction in the backroom when one of his competitors makes a relatively mild observation – because let’s face it; his “YOU’RE ATTACKING ME!!!!” and stomping off were DELICIOUS to anyone who had to sit through his attacking Becky and Bert – we’re left with the tiniest bit of hope that that season’s jackass won’t make it to the finals.

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    • Anonymous

      His expiration date has come and gone, it would be nice if
      the producers noticed that next week.

      • Anonymous

        It would have been nice if the producers noticed that 3 weeks ago.

        –GothamTomato

        • Anonymous

          I can’t wait for his exit interview when he says the inevitable line “Well, at least I made it to the final _____.”

    • Anonymous

      What TLo said.  Amen, and (hopefully) farewell soon to the Vortex.  His taste is strictly Housewives of Somewhere Tacky, and he wears more makeup than me.

      • Anonymous

        Wow. You hit the nail on the head with “Housewives of Somewhere Tacky” That’s priceless.

    • Anonymous

      Woot, agreed.  I had hoped you would rip on him for TUCKING IN that hiddy tuxedo shirt, because while the whole outfit is an example of terrible instincts and poor fit, the decision to tuck the shirt in, and/or cut it like a men’s wear shirt instead of a fitted shirt with darts was also just a terrible crime.  It bothers my eye so much I actually begin to twitch when looking at the outfit.

      • Anonymous

        That might be the only reference to the 1970’s he got. It took a big effort to learn to not tuck blouses in.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1380079551 Marie Dees

      I have this suspicion that when the show started the producers/writers decided that Clinique was the “redemption” character because if you study writing, people are supposed to identify with a character who isn’t perfect but redeemed through their actions. So, they hung on to Clinique through the challenges giving viewers bits of “my mom died” to try to create that “redemption.” By this point, they may have realized – nope, he’s just a bitchy designer.  At least I hope they recognize that because I don’t think PR can take another producer forced win. 

      • Anonymous

        Funny you would mention that. I had applied that theory to Bert. I don’t think Josh can really be redeemed at this point. The guy is delusional.

        • Anonymous

          I did the same thing with regard to Bert. He seems to be redeeming himself quite well throughout the show. Josh is just tacky and tiresome.

          • Anonymous

            Agreed re: Bert – I like how he’s progressed, particularly once he accepted he was the one being an obnoxious prick early on, and he didn’t want to Be That Guy any more. Admittedly the last two weeks have been right in his wheelhouse, but he’s done his best work on the show – let’s hope he doesn’t make any more missteps like that “avant-garde” outfit that looked like he glued Colorforms on his model!

            Josh M is the real-life version of Wil Wheaton’s character on See-Fee’s EUREKA.

        • Anonymous

          As did I.  I went through an “I’m on the Bert train” phase (episode 1) in that I wanted him to do well, though he wasn’t my favorite, then that horrible team effort with Viktor (and they both made mistakes there), and he’s been slowly moving into a better pattern of behavior.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, agree as well, that Bert is the redemption character.

          Josh went too far over the top with Becky; after that episode, nothing could have redeemed him enough in my eyes to keep him on  the show at all.

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            Yep. He’s pretty much irredeemable to me. If he makes something good, I’ll say so, and I can still laugh at some things he says, but he lost me when he tried to convince Becky that “dowdy” wasn’t an insult (he must think she’s monumentally stupid) and subsequently reduced her to tears. I felt bad for him when he broke down on camera. I believe he was really hurting over his mother’s death and her upcoming birthday. But his behavior was inexcusable. I just don’t see him redeeming himself after all that.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1380079551 Marie Dees

          That’s the problem the writers have with real people. Clinique can’t do anything to redeem himself and Bert managed to get himself under control when he could focus on his own designs. While Bert has earned some praise from the judges, there doesn’t seem to be a push to judge his designs higher than they should be to keep him in. With Clinique, there’s “producer manipulation” fingerprints all over the place. 

      • http://twitter.com/Mama_Kath Mama_Kath

        That’s the downside of PR, even back in Bravo days…the drama factor.  Wendy Pepper was a nasty lady whose clothes were this side of awful.  From there, there was always the drama character cast who was also allowed through at least to the Top 4 to attract the ‘ambulance chaser’ fans.  Sadly this meant some truly talented people got sent home to keep the drama queen in the running.  Since Lifetime took over I think its gotten worse.  This season we got drama queen and sob story…Joshua and Bert. Enough. How about some really good clothes?

        • Anonymous

           Exactly. Remember Kenley? Copied a McQueen dress almost exactly, was called out for it, and then allowed into the finale anyway. Why? Because evil is rewarded on PR.

          I feel so dirty.

          • http://twitter.com/Mama_Kath Mama_Kath

            Producers can’t seem to leave contest shows alone that don’t have “America voting”.  They pulled the same thing with Last Comic Standing.  Just leave it alone.  Let the experts make qualified judgments on this stuff and tough crap if “America” doesn’t like seeing bad design go home. It’s about time we had some real education on what is quality talent.  I will say though that in the end PR usually turns out a true winner and opens the doors for others.  I’m still a lover of Nick, Daniel V and Austin’s work and j’adore Christian forever.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1380079551 Marie Dees

          Ah, but look at the careers AFTER the show ends. The truly talented designers who leave too early show up and show off in the industry. The Wendy Peppers only live on in the memories of the shows fans.  

          I think they’re looking for another Christian Siriano character. Watch the season he was in. Princess Puffysleeves had his drama moments in the workroom. What’s missing from these drama characters is the moments of sheer design genius that Christian has. Though Bert is competent and will probably manage to reestablish his career. Perhaps not as a design name but working for a name. 

          • Anonymous

            I don’t think Bert is looking to be a design name, Marie Dees – not any more, anyway. He’s looking to re-establish that he can reliably deliver good-looking clothes either working for a house (like he did for Halston), or for a boutique of his own where he can cater to stylish women in their Forties-Sixties who don’t care about “fashion-forward” as long as it makes them look good.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

              If Bert can straighten out he’ll do fine. Based on his collection he could have a secure niche career like Laura Bennet. His clothes aren’t fashion forward but they’re attractive and flattering

    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      What I find astounding is that he somehow managed to make a 6 foot tall model who weighs in at 12 pounds look like she has a fat rear end. WTF?  What both outfits look like is a bad rendition of the 80s, not the 70s. 
      He reminds me of stories about Ginger Rogers, who was widely known as one of the worst dressers in H Wood.  They would routinely hold up the costume sketches next to her before letting her go on set, and remove any additions she had made.

      Boy needs to self edit, in SO many ways!

      • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

        In defense of Ginger, she designed the “Cheek to Cheek” dress. Not very kind to Fred, who had to deal with flying feathers, but very effective in the dance.

        • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

          Quite true, actually. Though Fred later claimed it was the worst costume he had to work around, ever.  But she looked amazing in it.  One wonders what her original notion looked like before it got edited, by Edward Stevenson, the designer.

      • Anonymous

        fat rear AND pooch AND muffin tops AND wide hips. Never has a plaid been put to such poor use and lead to even worse effects.

        Buh bye, Vortex. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          AND NOT EVEN LINED UP!!!  How did he not see that he was cutting the fabric incorrectly and the plaid would never line up that way!

          • Anonymous

            Was it him or Viktor (or somebody else) who got all snotty about somebody “cutting against the grain”? I’d say that’s easier to forgive than cutting a pattern so it looks worse than K-Mart Irregulars!

            I don’t think Josh M was ever intended to be “The Redemption Story” – I think he was always their Number One Choice as this season’s Villain. Though looks like Viktor’s going to even take that away from him!

            • Anonymous

              I believe that was Bryce.  Not positive, but I thought he was the one being snarky to Fallene.  I know Viktor was with Bert on that challenge and Josh made the “matador” costume.

            • http://twitter.com/ILikeShiny Cindi Williams

              Bryce was the one who went on and on about “grain”; similar to his Season 6 doppelganger Mitchell going on and on about “smocking”.

            • Anonymous

              You mean Bryce the Bland? Gods and Goddesses! My style palate runs the gamut from khaki to black, and I have a better and more daring sense of style than he has!

            • Adella Thompson

              I’d kind of think that he was being set up to be the Santino type of the show – he’s kind of too much to handle, but colorful and initially hilarious. But then somehow, Santino kind of wrote his own redemption elements into his narrative and Josh has just been going the way of Wendy Pepper with his random meltdowns and declining humor (hopefully “the way” doesn’t include “all the way to the finals”). Maybe I’m in the minority, but I cannot see Viktor as the season Villain. If anything, he has a similar geeky annoying little brother feel that I frankly thought Christian had as well. I think he’s kind of adorable and that his clothes may arguably lack that BAM factor, but they’re gorgeous and I would stock my wardrobe with his line, possibly even more furtively because he’s been set up as the shoulda-won-but-shafted on so many challenges at this point!

            • Anonymous

              Sorry, I hate Viktor – probably because I have kid brothers, and it’s clear nobody backhanded him enough at a formative age.

              My own kid brother who lives with us right now hates him even worse….

        • Anonymous

          And when you consider that he probably had size 0 models, imagine how those looks would look on anyone normal.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

        Having been in my 20s and 30s in the 1970s and ’80s and somewhat stylish, I can assure you that Josh’s crap wasn’t ’70s, and in the ’80s would have been tossed into a missewn second’s barrel slashed to half price.

        Not that I would have bought it then, either. And I was a great bargain hunter.

        • Anonymous

          Honestly how hard would it be for Josh – or any of the other contestants for that matter – to do an updated take on the Annie Hall (1977) look for the separates, and Diane Von Fürstenberg’s little wrap dress (1973) for the second one or a simple knit Halston-esque column? Christallmighty, it ain’t that hard.  Kenzo, Sonya Rykiel, and even Laura Ashley – how could they not know these designers? Vivienne Westwood, Calvin Klein, Ralph Lauren, Pierre Cardin …I could go on and on. It is incomprehensible to me that they could not know enough about the work of these designers from the 1970s to put something together.  

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Harder than you think to pull off a Halston — pieces that are that simple have to be cut and sewn PERFECTLY. 

            • Anonymous

               But PR isn’t looking for perfection.  If the producers wanted quality product they would give the contestants more than a day or two to design, purchase, pattern/drape, cut, piece/sew and style the garments.  They would also have tossed off Ms. Pants-Split-Up-The-Ass two episodes ago. This is a game show with scissors and pins as infrequent props.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

        Even worse than a fat rear, Josh’s hideous optical nightmare plaid pants give the model a weirdly lumpy fat ass, and an abdomen also weirdly shapted.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Her ass looked fat, lumpy, and flat all at the same time. I don’t know if he could have actually achieved that if he’d purposely tried.

      • Anonymous

        I reallly loved Kors’s reaction to the pants, especially that they made her ass look “long.”  Seriously, who wants a long ass?

    • Anonymous

      Those pants make her look like she has the ass of an alien.

      • Anonymous

        Roger from American Dad!

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      Such a good analysis. I agree that his dress wasn’t all that bad, though not remotely 70s. The tuxedo shirt however looks worse in the photos than on the screen–there seems to be some incompatibility in the fabrics that makes the black part look like it wants to pop off. The pants are just sad, though they do remind me of  a pair I had, in the 60s though, and a very different shape.

    • Anonymous

      Here we go with the on-off switch.  The producers must be done building their story with him.  The Carrie Effect, as Laura Bennet so expertly observed about Michael Costello (they placed the tiara on his head, and then dumped the pig’s blood… or something to that effect).  It’s like the judges suddenly woke up from a hypnotic sleep.  I have to admit it was nice seeing a glimmer of the Old Nina as she (rightly) ripped into these looks   Although, she couldn’t help herself from delivering a backhanded compliment as well.  (He takes risks!  Woohoo!)

      I still think he’s going to the finale.  Kenley made hands-down the worst dress for that season’s final elimination, and they came up with that bullshit rule that allowed them to eliminate Jerrell instead, who had won that challenge!  They’ll make it happen.

      • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

        I agree that it seems likely that Clinique will be going to Fashion Week, just because of the drama factor.

      • Anonymous

        I read Nina’s comment (he takes risks) as the justification for keeping Joshua in over Anthony.  Yes, both produced awful outfits this week, but Anthony just isn’t good reality tv fodder like Joshua.

      • Adella Thompson

        Yeah, I hate to agree, but I still remember an interview with Tim Gunn done a while back where he said that one of the finalists was a “controversial figure.” Granted, at the time I thought that meant Bert or maybe Anya because of the polarization over her, but I fear for the worst. Josh is definitely the most “controversial” of the remaining contestants.

    • Trey Hart

      Joshua’s complaints about not knowing the 70s were especially delicious considering his soundbyte about the other designers having no excuse for being unfamiliar with menswear at the beginning of the episode

    • Anonymous

      That print was hideous.  It’s only “not that bad” if one is comparing it
      to Laura’s.  I must say I’m surprised he didn’t wear that leopard-print tank top onto the runway.  I wonder who talked him out of it?

      Nina’s reaction when he said he’d thought about making the trousers shorter was priceless.

      • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

        I hated that print too. Seriously bad. 

    • http://www.woneffe.com Jef Nickerson

      That top didn’t look good on Captain Janeway in Star Trek Voyager and it doesn’t look good on this model either. 

      • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

        OMG you’re SO right!
        Janeway all the way!

      • Anonymous

        Right!  Why is it that someone makes a Star Trek dress for every challenge this season?

        • Anonymous

          maybe it’s an undergoing, unofficial challenge between the contestants ?
          “Dare you, dare you to make a Star Trek dress !”

          • Anonymous

            If that’s so, KathKo – couldn’t somebody please make a Classic TREK women’s minidress with black hose and high-heeled boots?

            Think of the straight male fans, for once!

            • Charis G

              But it could’ve been rendered in such a way as to be APPROPRIATE for this challenge. We can’t have THAT.

            • Anonymous

              Well, don’t ask me, I don’t do the figures. But my guess is that straitgh males fans where left behind the minute the production ditched any model’s screen time other than fitting and runways.
              I guess you miss seasons 6 and 7, don’t you ?

            • Anonymous

              Actually, I don’t – that “Behind the Runway” stuff never appealed to me much. I just would have loved to see a Classic TREK Female uniform on some models….

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          It’s because a lot of the designers are obviously from another planet.

      • Anonymous

        It looked some better on Janeway – and that was a SF series, so asinine clothing styles is a given.

        When we saw where Josh was going w/that outfit, my wife, niece, brother and I all began chanting “Space – The Final Frontier. These are the Voyages of the USS ENTERPRISE….”

    • scottyf

      Here’s the reason I have a major problem with Joshua:
      It GAULS me that I took such delight in his beat down. I mean I <b.howled with delight when Nina turned horrendous into three words. I am ashamed that I’ve allowed his dysfunctional spirit to infect me from so far away. I mean, this was filmed months ago, and his energy is powerful enough to still wash over me through the television and affect my thoughts. That’s really saying something. That’s some potent shit.

      If I look at him through the eyes of my better self, it is SO clear that this boy is hurting inside. I’m not talking about his manufactured grief and pain over his life (not that I think he doesn’t believe it all), but whatever happened to make him doubt who he is and hate himself so much. It’s no wonder to me that he and Viktor clash. They are mirror images of each other. Viktor has issues with him because of his perceived beauty, and Joshua has issues with Viktor because he’s perceived the better designer.

      Anyone who has to hide under so much make-up and bravado; who displays such cowardice, and text book narcissism deserves my sorrow and prayers. I desperately want to believe that somewhere under all that bronzer is a really beautiful boy who needs the shit slapped out of him and then a nurturing hug.

      I just hope it all happens after he’s auf’ed next week.

      • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

        Scotty, you show us all, again, what a wise and gracious man you are.  Bravo.

      • Lori

        Scottyf,  you are one fine charming gardener.

      • Anonymous

        Absolutely. 

        It’s funny–I watch Josh and see all the behavior my toddler exhibits. 

      • Anonymous

        Very well said, Scotty.  It is very clear that Josh is not comfortable in his own skin…and he makes such an effort to project that he IS.  I really hope he’ll see these episodes and learn something about himself.  He has talent and can be that really biting sort of funny when he wants to.  I hope he’ll realize that the substance is even more important than the ‘show.’

      • Anonymous

        Scotty, your kindness moves me, but I have to agree with JaneM. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is not only untreatable, it is, by definition, not rooted in childhood trauma or pain (none of the personality disorders are). Of course, we’re all so armchair here and if it’s not NPD then yes, he’s deeply wounded, but I recoil from him. I recoil from having him on my TV. I recoil from the poison he infuses into every environment he enters. I recoil from the producers rewarding this behavior.

        • Anonymous

          Well, no, not exactly.  Personality disorders aren’t diagnosed in childhood — by definition — but that does not mean that early childhood experiences don’t cause or trigger personality disorders.  Most — if not virtually all — mental health professionals believe that childhood experiences have a dramatic effect on personality development and personality disorders, and that  PDO’s, as well as other mental illnesses, are set off by some combination of genetic and environmental factors (nature and nurture) as well as personal temperament.  We don’t know what that combination is, but, as a mental health professional, it’s not accurate to say that NPD and other PDO’s are never rooted in childhood trauma and pain.  In fact, borderline personality disorder and childhood trauma have about a 1:1 correlation.

          Personality disorders are also very difficult to treat, but not impossible.  Depends on the person, the disorder, the commitment to change, etc.  Conventional wisdom has it that NPD is so difficult to treat because the narcissist never sees himself as the problem.  But some people do come to realize that the common denominator in their difficulties is themselves.

          None of this is to suggest that an adult, no matter how damaged, and no matter the cause, is not 100% responsible for his or her own behavior.  So you’re absolutely right to not let a narcissist off the hook for his or her behavior and you’re absolutely right to recoil once you discover one — which I hope you do in your real life.

          • Anonymous

            P.S. Love your website, by the way.

          • Anonymous

            Sweetpea, thanks for that rundown. Very informative! My mother is a mental health professional, and I was unfortunate enough to date a NPD person, so that is where my familiarity comes from, but I don’t have your expertise.

            • Anonymous

              Glad that helped.  Sorry if I got pedantic.  Glad your ex is ex.  Everybody’s path gets littered with a few, unfortunately. 

        • Anonymous

           Is it possible there’s more than one thing going on? (isn’t there always? especially since this is, as you note, totally armchair). I know  someone with diagnosed NPD, & he isn’t mean. He is supremely oblivious to the needs of others & god knows needs more attention than a toddler, but if you point out someone else’s need to him he’s more than willing to be generous with not just material goods but time and at significant cost to his own agenda. (Of course, his generosity is more sustained if he thinks he’s being admired for it.) He doesn’t say things to put others down, he just assumes that he is out performing them. He’s tiresome and obnoxious if he’s not getting enough recognition, but he doesn’t need to get it at others’ expense.

          Josh may or may not have diagnosable NPD, I’m not qualified to make that decision even if I knew him in real life but I think the idea that there’s insecurity  at work is  likely. He doesn’t just assume he is the center of the universe, and behave poorly as a result, he denigrates others to prop up his own standing.

          • Anonymous

            Sure, it’s definitely possible more than one thing is going on.  Also, think of these diagnoses as simply a way of catagorizing things so that we can talk about them.  There’s a certain amount of arbitrariness (is that a word?) in diagnostic criteria — especially when you’re dealing with a concept as slippery as personality.   Few people really fit so neatly into one category or another, which is why some professionals think more about symptom clusters than a discrete diagnosis.  (There’s also a debate about whether PDO’s are even a valid construct to begin with, but that’s a whole other discussion — for probably a whole different blog.)

            • http://twitter.com/yankeefoxtrot Alex McGeagh

              Wasn’t NPD removed from the DSM-IV in the last iteration? Hmm…

            • Anonymous

              No, it’s still in DSM-IV.  It’s proposed to be eliminated in DSM-V as its own disorder, along with a few others, as well as a reconceptualization of how PDO’s are diagnosed.  I don’t think anybody’s disputing that pathological narcissism exists as a problem, just how to describe and catagorize it.

      • muzan-e

        … a really beautiful boy who needs the shit slapped out of him and then a nurturing hug.

        That backstage moment between he, Viktor and Kimberley really stunned me, and I wonder if this is why: a gentle slap is exactly what it was, all flat facts and no room allowed for argument or spluttering.  He needs people like that, maybe: people who don’t peddle bullshit, people who aren’t unafraid, but who know how to handle their fears. He doesn’t. I wonder sometimes if he spends much time around people who he can look up to, people he can respect. My fear sometimes is that Joshua’s the most talented person he knows. That’s the worst thing in the world for someone like him.

        On a purely personal note, I’m so grateful that you mentioned his cosmetics. I was an ugly, awkward child who grew into a taller and more-composed version of herself, and I remember the shock of seeing myself, the first time I let a friend paint me over with foundation, concealer, the works. Who was this person? Plastic me. Not quite unrecognisable.  For months, I wouldn’t leave the house without a full face of makeup, not even to the corner store. It wasn’t quite like hiding. It was more like re-creation.

        But I admire your care, I admire your – as someone’s said here – graciousness towards him, without wholly sharing it. I’ve a decent tolerance for aggression, anger, outrage – but Joshua’s always leaned towards cruelty. And I just can’t stand that at all.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Did he ever say where he was from?  Because, sadly, he reminds me an awful lot of the gay boys I knew as a kid — thinking that being gay meant they had to go over the top drama queen all the time, because it was the only model they saw.  Having to hide behind that cliche of the sassy superficial gay, and acting out their misery on everyone around them.  Most of them ended up in rehab or hospitals or both.

        • Anonymous
          • Anonymous

            Lilithcat – I was disgusted when I heard he was born in Cleveland and ick that he grew up here  – like we need more negative publicity …but I went to the link and found this:
            s for his fondness of fashion, that could not have been more evident
            than in the FAA production of ‘Jesus Christ Superstar,’ which took the
            rock opera out of the ’70s and brought it into the 21st century,” said
            David Malinowski, actor and theater instructor at FAA.

            “Josh was
            so enthusiastic to help style the costumes and make sure each and every
            accessory was perfect.”

            ENTHUSIASTICALLY helped style COSTUMES for the “Rock Opera” “JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR”   TAKING IT FROM THE   7 0 s  into the 21 CENTURY!!!!

      • http://twitter.com/Wild_Horses__ Beth

        Scotty, if you start your own blog, you know you’ll have a lot of faithful readers.  (If you have one already, someone please post a link!)

      • Anonymous

        another reason why i seek our lovely scotty’s opinion on this blog.  well said! 

      • Anonymous

        I agree about not being my better self when I get too involved with a character I don’t like on PR.   Hey, let’s get some perspective here, I say to me.  This is for entertainment.  If these people lived next door to me, I would be praying for them every day.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527150091 Pat Biswanger

        Brilliant analysis, Scotty.

      • Anonymous

        scotty – you clearly are closer to achieving satori than I am, by a considerable chalk.

        I consider him a whinily entitled asshole who trades on his tragedy like it’s a trump card – though I have to say your analysis of him sounds very close to spot-on in many ways.

        • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

          And thank you for making me learn the definition of satori, my new word for the day. 

          • Anonymous

            You’re welcome, Karen.

            I generally use grok , myself, since I’m a SF nerd – I didn’t get into Japanese culture until my wife got me into it.

    • http://twitter.com/polevaulter94 Renee Alexander

      Being a Josh fan, I have to admit that this week… well it sucked for him. I don’t understand how the first outfit is seventies (or even attractive at all) and his attitude was awful. I’ll defend him saying he probably was freaked out about getting kicked off by the judges and overreacted to other people’s comments.

      I was prepared to say goodbye, the judges should have booted him.But can I just say… if ANYA would have used that fabric, would they have been HALF as negative about it? (the one in the maxi dress)

      • Anne Lucchesi

        I almost want to agree with you, but then I remember, Anya never would have chosen that fabric. I don’t love her style, but that girl can pick a print.

        • Anonymous

          I find both prints ugly. But the reason why Anya’s on top and Josh in the bottom is because Anya’s look is more 70’s than Josh’s.
          That and Anya’s one of the judges’ pet.

        • Anonymous

          Anne’s right – Anya would have never picked that print, b/c she’s got better taste than that.

          I like her designs more than Anne does – OTOH, she does mainly design resortwear.

        • Anonymous

          I hated the print in her first outfit.. far worse than Laura’s or Joshua’s, although theirs were not from the 70’s

    • http://onebluetree.blogspot.com/ Sara L.

      Those pants are HORRIFYING. Like, I actually recoiled from my computer screen in horror, horrifying.

      I kind of love the bodice of that dress, though.

      • Anonymous

        I did like the buckle straps.

    • Anonymous

      Well, the skinny belt was 70’s and they WERE supposed to use the 70’s as a take-off point and inspiration. And it looks like he used polyester heavy fabrics . . . there, I defended the asshole I hate. He is oily and has a disproportionate sense of entitlement — dreadful person. I HATE that excuse people give “I shouldn’t be expected to know that because it happened before I was born” is pathetic and ignorant (my friends kids and co-workers use this reason for not knowing things). Quite frankly, a lack of knowing and understanding of history is the source of many of the problems this world is going thru today.

      Books, movies, tv, the internet — I don’t know why someone would defend their ignorance with such a bloody poor excuse. I understand recognize confidence is necessary with anyone who finds success, but the total inability to hear and absorb critiques is embarrassing and kind of gross.

      Maybe he is gearing up to run for politics. Bleah!

      • Anonymous

        donnaINseattle, as a professional historian, I appreciate your comment very much. It’s sad to say that so many kids in the college classroom say things like, “why should I learn this stuff, it has no connection to me.” Very shortsighted and provincial, just like Josh.

      • Anonymous

        See, even the long skinny cheap belt looks 80s to me. All it needed was a bunch of shiny snaps on it — I can’t believe he actually exercised restraint and didn’t add them.

      • Judy Raddue

        Donna, don’t expect to much of poor, put-upon Joshua!!!  How can anyone expect him to spend time educating himself on fashion?  It takes a lot of time and energy to look that “good”! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46-WNPlCYsg

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think this look of Josh’s was that much worse than some of his earlier designs – I couldn’t understand why he had been doing so well in the judging up to this point.  For what ever reason, the judges have had enough of him and his excuses (and its about time).  He can sew, but his taste level is a mystery to me.

      • Anonymous

        WHAT “taste level”, karena? I had better taste than him when I was 19, and still wearing the Sears ActionWear Slacks and Qiana shirts my Mom bought me.

    • Anonymous

      The model’s ass in those pants is horrific. It is like the old days of TV, when the horizontal controls would go out and the picture was all wibbly wobbly. Like I said in the previous post, my husband and I froze that ass frame and laughed ourselves silly. I hope some screen caps with Kors’s reaction is on the way! That was priceless.

      A few years back, my daughter had a dress made out of that butterfly wing fabric on his maxi dress. She was 9 at the time. So there is no way I can look at that dress and think a grown-ass woman would wear that fabric.

      Oh Josh, your sell-by date done come and gone. You were never amusing, but the powers that be kept you around for the drama. Now you’re just a sad clown.

    • Susan Crawford

      “You’re attacking me!”

      Coming from the asshat who stormed into a bathroom stall in the ladies room to berate a team member just a few short weeks ago, and who has made a habit of eye-rolling, neck-popping confrontations every chance he gets? Ohhhh-kay, Miss Clinique. We are SO on to you.

      His two designs were just dreadful. Those pants! I didn’t realize intil T Lo’s screen cap that he couldn’t even mitre the plaid evenly (basic Sewing 101, Joshua!) and the scrunch at the ankles was inexcusable. Pants in the 70’s were much more menswear-inspired, right down to a somewhat fuller leg, cuffs, and an easier fit across the hips. (Remember the “Charlie” perfume ads? The idea was pants that allowed girls to stride freely, and that had a sexy movement.) That odd tuxedo-inspired blouse? Nuh-uh. The maxi-dress wasn’t as bad, but I have to say that the acid-colors are strictly eighties.

      Any young person going into the fashion design world HAS to study the history of fashion and style. First, it helps teach technique: can you possibly understand pleating without some knowledge of Fortuny? Can you understand draping without knowing what Vionnet and Madame Gres did? Can you understand modernity without looking at Chanel, Schiapparelli, Geoffrey Beene, or Gerreich? Can you truly understand grand, haute couture without looking back at Worth, Valentino, Givenchy? So Joshua, try spending a couple of hours a week on this, and you just might learn something, assuming you are not so self-absorbed as to think you know it ALL. Because, baby-cakes – you don’t.

      • Anonymous

        And, to your point, even if he hasn’t studied previous decades and fashion greats of the past, he had a freakin’ dossier!!!

        • Susan Crawford

          Speaking of which – I would love to have seen the whole dossier somewhere on the website, wouldn’t you? Is there a link to it that I missed? Because from the couple of quick shots of illustrations from it, I wasn’t too impressed. Nonetheless, whatever was in that dossier was supposed to inspire and direct, and obvs Miss Clinique was too bisy darting around the workroom “getting inspired” by what Viktor and others were doing to pay any attention to it.

          Anastasia_B, you are correct: gray may not have been the major color trend of the 70’s, but I think every young woman going off to a job in the 70’s had some gray pieces in her wardrobe – I know I did.

          I also forgot to give Kimberly props for chiming in and quietly but firmly agreeing with Viktor on the fashion history comment. She may keep a relatively low profile, but she has a LOT of class and professionalism.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, the Charlie ads. And please tell me you’ve heard of some little thing called “Annie Hall”?

      • Anonymous

        “Remember the ‘Charlie’ perfume ads?” Yes, exactly – and that’s what Viktor produced, beautifully. I immediately envisioned Shelley Hack coming down that runway.

        And to everyone who is saying that the gray that Viktor used was not a 70s color, that it should have been more neutral, I beg to differ. I had a light gray suit that I wore to death in the mid-late 70s, and it was similar in hue and style to what Viktor used for his jacket and pants (which were actually two different fabrics). 

        • Anonymous

          But also … isn’t part of the challenge to modernize the 70s? So if most of us think tan/brown in the 70s, but using gray (for me) made it more today.

          NO ONE wanted to see a 70s costume—we got enough of that last week. Viktor gave us something inspired by the 70s but wearable in 2011. Joshua gave us … the runs.

        • Anonymous

          Anastasia – no, Viktor did not produce a ‘Charlie’ outfit (http://www.mimifroufrou.com/scentedsalamander/2007/09/remembering_charliescented_ima.html for what they looked like). Viktor produced a weskit top and pants in grey tailored…something.

          I think I had that outfit as “Sunday Clothes” in the late Sixties….

      • Anonymous

        Research….a sensible substitute for whining and blaming others for ones own failings!  Great post.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5LU5C262WB3Z5F4WZ6QGKXLNLE JaneM

      This season’s jack ass, is in my opinion, mentally ill.  “You’re attacking me!”  is the reaction, not just of an overbearing queen. It is the the reaction of an overbearing queen who is mentally ill.  If you line up what he does and says, you’ll notice that he can’t keep his thoughts straight and then he explodes.

      At the beginning of this very episode he was yammering about how no one can be making any excuses for anything at this point in the competition and then spent his entire next day and a half making excuses.  Not only were they given a dossier, most of them ARE THE SAME AGE as he is.  How would he not be aware of that?  Mentally ill.

      Remember when he blew up at Bert for swearing?  Of all the reasons one might have blown up at Bert at that point in the game. Swearing?  I believe I have heard him swear.

      The gentlest armchair diagnosis: narcissist.  Which, by the way, is untreatable.

      • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

        Actually that thing with Bert made me think simply that he had forgotten his meds that morning. There are medications that can keep you from feeling that kind of misdirected anger and you become dependent on them. “You” in this case meaning “me.” I think he is stupid, narcissistic, and tasteless–not things a pill will help–but I suspect he is on something for the crazy and that’s why his outbursts vary so much in intensity.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        Personality disorder of the highest order.

    • Anonymous

      What is really odd about his claim to know nothing about the 70’s is that the purple dress in his finale collection is totally Bianca Jagger at Studio 54. I am SO looking forward to your ripping of his collection – I was just hoping it would be this week!

      • Anonymous

        Guess he had time to “research” his final collection (i.e., hunt down Bert’s address and peek into his windows).

        • Anonymous

          No – sadly, Josh won’t be doing that, Rrose, because he thinks Bert’s aesthetic is for Old Ladies.

          He’ll peek in Anya’s window, see what prints she’s using – and pick the most insanely garish version of each and mix them up without regard for whether they fit or not!

    • Anonymous

      I am mesmerized by the eyebrows to this day. But Joshie my pet, these threads are not going to cut it. Simply dreadful.

    • Anonymous

      Love his brows… just sayin’

      And about the clothes : hated it!

    • http://heartprintandstyle.blogspot.com Vivi N

      I don’t think you understand. As soon as Joshua’s 1st model stepped out on the runway, I was on the floor rolling with laughter. LMFAO for real. Tears started forming in my eyes. I couldn’t breath. If that shit was not THE MOST ugliest creation this season, I don’t know what was. 

      Joshua needed to be eliminated…like yesterday. I will not be a happy camper if this fool makes it to Top 3/4 Finale. Gretchen winning last season still pisses me off but if THAT happens? I’ll….I’ll…I’ll still watch the next season. lolol. But trust and believe I’ll be pissed AND boiling inside. 

    • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

      can anyone believe that he seems to be making ANOTHER circle skirt in the previews for next weeks challenge?! 

      • Anonymous

        It makes sense if you live in the Vortex. He won with a circle skirt, and placed in the top 3 with several others (inexplicably when it came to the Avant Garde art interpretaion challenge).

        Mummy and daddy loved me when I made them circle skirts! Here’s a shiny new circle skirt, Mummy.. er, I mean Nina, please love me again?

        • Anonymous

          maybe he’ll write Nina’s initials on this circle skirt…

    • Anonymous

      When both Nina and Michael said, in the judging, “he has a point of view,” I said to my son, “they’re keeping him.”

      His point of view is “loud is good.”

      He is the devil if the devil shaped his eyebrows.

      • Anonymous

        “if the devil shaped his eyebrows”

        I laughed out loud, at my desk, in my office, on a Sunday

        • Anonymous

          My sympathies for the working Sunday. 

          • Anonymous

            Thanks. It wasn’t so bad. I got a Keurig for my office. Coffee with real cream makes almost everything better.

      • Anonymous

        “he has a point of view,”
        So did Jack the Ripper, but that doesn’t mean we need to encourage him.  (Side observation:  perhaps this is Josh the Seam Ripper.)

        • Anonymous

          Oh, thank you for THAT, RosiesGirl! I just spat beer all over my keyboard….

          Well played, Madame!

    • Anonymous

      I think the dress is very cute.  Don’t like the print all,  but think it could have passed in a 1988 challenge.  

      The first look also seems 80s to me…. Joan Cusack in Working Girl 80s to be exact.

      • Anonymous

        What a great movie–the fashion alone . . . !

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=745465637 Nellie Wilson

      Have to agree with everything you’ve said here, with one exception. I actually had a maxi dress with criss-cross straps back in the 70’s. I made it myself, I believe it was a Butterick pattern. I wore that thing to death, along with my wooden platform shoes and Heidi braids. Good times…….

      • Anonymous

        Awesome profile picture Nellie Wilson.

    • Ruth Gottesman

      What’s really sad about this 80s redux outfit is that if he had just made the pants with straight wide legs and made a simple red top with more blousy sleeves and a pussy bow, he would have been golden. Chic and updated 70s. And I love that he feels that saying “I wasn’t alive during the 70s.” was a valid excuse when, with the exception of Bert, NO ONE ELSE WAS EITHER. It’s called “education”, Josh, look into it.

      • Anonymous

        I have made Italian Renaissance clothing, and was certainly not alive during that era.  As Ruth has so cogently stated, “It’s called education”.

        • Anonymous

          I have made Italian Renaissance clothing, and was certainly not alive during that era.

          Bert and Tim were – and they’d like you to know you’re well out of it. Sure, the sex was free and there was plenty of it, and there was a “crank” to the innovation that was like living in pre-Giuliani New York City – but you think health care is bad now?!?!?

    • Anonymous

      I would feel a lot more vindicated by Josh’s meltdown if he hadn’t lasted long enough in the competition to show at Bryant Park. That, IMO, is the really valuable exposure, and the need to present so many decoy collections rewards those who really shouldn’t be there.

      • Judy Raddue

        Spot-on…

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, the dress may not have been so bad, but it led to Nina’s beautiful comment: “it’s an acid leopard print!” This was hideous. And he has no idea how to mix colors or use a print like that plaid.

      • Anonymous

        well it could have been, too !

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        I can’t even come up with an adjective to describe how awful that print is. As my mother says, Josh “doesn’t even have taste in his mouth.”

    • Anonymous

      I’ve liked Josh from the beginning…both as a ‘character’ and a designer.  But as he has slid more and more into being the Drama Vortex, his designs have really suffered.

      I’m tired of his schtick now–he was a fun kind of bitch in the beginning, but the stress has just turned him into a bitch kind of bitch.  And my reaction to his “I didn’t live through the 70s” was pretty much like the young coworker I lit into years back when she said she didn’t know who The Doors were because they were “before her time.”  I made it very clear to her that they were before MY time, but music didn’t just start when I was born!  Neither did fashion, Clinique.

      I agree it’s SO not 70s, but I have to admit I really liked his maxi-dress on its own, and I liked that weird print.  I refuse to discuss that other abomination he made.

      • http://twitter.com/SetMeOnFYYYYAH Miss World

        i liked josh in the first couple of episodes as well but i think his “transformation”, if you can even call it that, is less about stress and more about showing the world who he really is as a person. 

        “but music didn’t just start when I was born!  Neither did fashion, Clinique.” A+

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          “but music didn’t just start when I was born!  Neither did fashion, Clinique.” That would probably be news to him! He’s so nacissistic, he probably never thought anything existed before he was born.

    • Anonymous

      The first look has no redeeming qualities. And the poor model needs a smoother or something because you can see her bikini panty line making bad, even worse.
      The second look is cute and wearable. Mildly seventies. Though I think a just below the knee “midi” length would have been more current and more 70’s. Too many maxi’s on the runway.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SLF3HHMOGYQZECIWQOA6XQ2OIU RealSpaceModels

      Okay here’s my prediction for the end of season 9. On the runway will be Victor, Bert and Anya. Heidi will look at Bert and say “You’re out”. Then it will be down to Victor and Anya. The suspenseful music will play and Heidi will announce “The winner of Project Runway is….MONDO!” And Mondo will walk out from behind the screen and Michael and Nina will profusely apologize to him for last season and say they wish someone this season had HALF his talent. 

      Well we can all dream can’t we?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

        … As much as I like Viktor this season, I would be COMPLETELY fine with this outcome.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, please God, make it so!

      • Anonymous

        Please Let This Be True.

        I’m even fine with Bert being auf‘d after Bryant Park – because while I like his designs, even I can see his aesthetic ends when Reagan left the White House.

    • Anonymous

      The pants were so horrendous I didn’t realize until these stills just how bad the top is.  I have a horrible feeling that the final 3 will include Josh rather than Bert even though a number of the commentariat seem sure Bert will make it (and I certainly hope he does).

    • Anonymous

      The tuxedo top is kind of, sort of Yves Saint Laurent Dr Zhivago-esque, but that is the only remotely ’70’s aspect about either of those looks. Those plaid pants are unforgiveable.

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        I thought the tuxedo shirt was full on Theo Huxtable.

    • Anonymous

      Familiar with 70s fashion or not, there’s no excuse for sending that much ugly down the runway.  And I still don’t understand why Laura’s epileptic seizure inducing mess wasn’t on the bottom two.  Seemed like a good week for a double elimination.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, that.  No excuse for that much ugly.  I was really hoping Nina would burst out, “It’s not aesthetically pleasing!”

        • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

          LOL!!  That’s my favorite line on the show EVER.  I use it whenever possible.

    • Anonymous

      I think that Bert has been served by remaining in the competition until now and Josh has not.  In the beginning Josh had a few things that were interesting and he seemed bitchy in a fun way.  While Bert seems to have settled in and gotten a handle on his insecurities (he seems less defensive and more open now), Josh’s are running amok.  His style seems to have moved from fun and flashy to unwearable and his persona (as others have said) has become unbearable.

      • Anonymous

        Good analysis, in my opinion.
        Maybe Josh has used all the sewing tricks on his bag and finally noticed that it might not be enough.

    • Anonymous

      “It’s a maxi-dress made by someone who has no idea what maxi-dresses looked like almost 40 years ago.”  And there’s no excuse for that because had PHOTOS of maxi dresses from the 70s.  He is beyond irritating and he’s getting worse.  I so hope we are soon spared. And that he is spared from making a bigger fool of himself as time goes on.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

      I don’t know how he did it, but Josh made it look like both his models had two stomachs.

      • Anonymous

        Good observation. Also, the model’s no doubt pristine ass looks unbelievably atrocious in those pants.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MBZQXGWCTBDTAZMEM4S2EJUNUQ Katie

      The only reason he wasn’t off this week was because the producers aren’t through playing with this mouse. My prediction is that he’s the next Kenley – overpraised until his ego is swollen and then suddenly they turn on him and we all get the schadenfreude we’ve been craving. I was so happy that Kimberley countered his bullshit excuses with the fact that a designer SHOULD know the aesthetics of different periods in fashion. The greatest collections generally show off a knowledge of not just construction, tailoring, color contrast and creativity, but also a deep knowledge of fashion history – playing with old tropes and trends and paying homage to classic styles. To act like you only need to know about things you’ve seen with your own eyes or that exist in your own lifetime is not only supremely self-centered, but betrays a willful ignorance that will severely limit your range as a creative person.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        His willful ignorance actually doesn’t surprise me, now that I remember he said he doesn’t like anything old. He only likes new things. The only thing that matters to him is what’s happening around him, and it damn well better be revolving around him too.

        And you’re right. He is supremely self-centered. Anyone who will scream “I will not have it!!” the way he did at Bert has absolutely no clue that he’s not the only person in the room. What’s worse is how he can dish it out to the point where he can reduce someone to tears, but he so very much cannot take it.

        I don’t know if he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or if he’s just a big, spoiled, whiny baby who doesn’t know how to act in public. I think, though, that he’s a viper and he’s toxic, and I’m sick of him.

        • Anonymous

          I vote for “big, spoiled, whiny baby”.

          • Anonymous

            Me too.

    • Anonymous

      I had to wonder what he meant when he complained that he “needed more time to do research”…..did that mean more reconnaissance around the workroom?….find someone who was around in the 70s….except he only knew Bert???

      • Anonymous

        Yes indeed. Let’s face it — that “research” needs to take place before you apply for the show.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Thank you!!!! While Anya was (presumably) practicing sewing 12 hours a day to prepare, Josh should have been hitting the books. They all should have. Why don’t they? Jeopardy contestants scour almanacs and textbooks, or you assume they would…

    • Anonymous

      While the clothes were the final straw, I’d already become transfixed/disgusted by his bizarre mannerisms in the workroom where he seemed to flit around and bat his eyes and purse his lips like he was Laura fucking Wingfield in The Glass Menagerie. Gurl wants to work a fan sooo bad. 

      • Anonymous

        Oh, god, yes.  Boy cannot do one damn thing without posing.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Thank you for pointing out the dossier thing.  Why didn’t anyone on the show?

      And those pants weren’t 80s.  I like the 80s. I have my high school yearbooks from the 80s, and no one was wearing plaid pants. (Plaid shirts, yes. Many of those. But plaid pants would have been laughed off the campus.) Those pants were some fugly home ec project gone awry.

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Plaid pants–  well, perhaps some Vivienne Westwood plaid pants from the 1970s sans the zippers and straps.  Those were very drain-pipe as an anti-fashion statement to the popular flares.. Not that I am reaching for CC but if he knew a little fashion history, he might have been able to salvage and then defend his designs without looking entirely delusional.

      • Anonymous

         In the 80s’ I had plaid pants – casual cotton pants.  I also had neon print lycra pants for aerobics class.  (Joshua and Laurs fabrics would have worked for the 80’s)

    • Anonymous

      Yikes. I think that first outfit is beyond ugly and has nothing to do with the 1970s. The dress isn’t bad, but also has nothing to do with the 1970s. I will be so glad to see Josh go. 

      I think the final three will be Bert, Anya, and Victor. 

    • Anonymous

      I’m sure Josh has a great future, perhaps as a Bond villain. Certainly not as a designer.

      • Anonymous

        Between you and RosiesGirl, mousetomato, are you determined to ruin my laptop? That’s the second time in as many pages that I’ve spit-taked on my keyboard!

        Bravo! Maybe I need to stop drinking while I’m reading these….

    • MilaXX

      My favorite part had to be both Kimberly and Viktor calmly schooling him despite hi vain attempts to create drama by proclaiming he was being attacked.

      That outfit was straight from the costume department for the movie Working Girl. All hi model needed was a scrunchy on her wrist.

    • muzan-e

      There was this strange, magnificent moment:

      Clinique, backstage. Furious, hurt, afraid, hungry for anything that looks like an excuse – and Viktor provides. He’s on it immediately, both barrels blazing, both eyes blazing, growling his way right through the middle of Viktor’s quiet, reasonable response – 

      And Kimberley looks him straight in the eyes and tells him flatly: No. You can stop that, now.

      That moment shone.

      • Anonymous

        I loved that too! It gave him no wiggle room to approach someone later and say “Viktor totally attacked me after the show…” Everyone was there and they all saw this.

        • http://twitter.com/LovemyDVF Janet Davis

          He was getting all worked up to Viktor about how he was attacking him and Viktor was reclining with his legs crossed, completely relaxed.  Could have had a cigarette in one hand and a highball glass in the other hand and not looked out of place.

          • muzan-e

            … I’m dying of delight. *g*  Absolutely adored Viktor’s composure. I’d have bought the brandy for his glass.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, that was one of my favorite things — and Viktor just stared straight ahead, not even willing to look at Camille as he fainted on his couch.

      • Anonymous

        I do like Kimberley, though her clothes usually don’t wow me.

        • muzan-e

          Oh, I do too. None of her work so far has really interested me…  but I watch this hoping that she’s simply a strong, well-educated talent who just hasn’t found her thing yet, an aesthetic that really fuels her. I mean, as much as I rave about Bert’s tailoring (swoon!), her knack for pants in particular just staggers me.

          But oh, do I love a serious, smart woman. *g*

        • Anonymous

          I like her clothes okay – but no, Kimberly’s mainly a solid mid-pack designer with occasional flashes of a genuine aesthetic (like that winning top she did for Nina). I think she’d be great working at Parson’s, though – maybe Tim can get her a job there after she gets auf’d…?

    • Anonymous

      ugh, I’m getting pissed at this show, it’s clear he’s not being eliminated because they think he’s good tv with all his theatrics. Anthony’s was bad too, but this was worse. I never noticed how much Nina hates Barbie, she was shooting daggers at her, and yes that top was crazy mismatched with the skirt, but the second look was much better than Josh’s crazy crap.

    • Anonymous

      I know they all had the same dossier, and I am not here to defend overtanned evil, but from what I saw, that was a terrible dossier. I was there in the 70s, and I saw some elements of 70s style, but overall, I didn’t see anything that would tell someone who didn’t know about the 70s what the definitive style trends were. In the example seen on this page, you would think the 70s were about — what? shapeless garments in oatmeal colors and genie pants?  

      • Anonymous

        Fashion history is part of the job, bitches.
        Exactly. How can you pretend to become a great and reknowned designer without knowing what the masters made before you were even born ? What does he thinks ? That he invented fashion ?
        But I think we didn’t see a lot of the dossier. Maybe it was light, maybe it wasn’t. The fact is, it was supposed to be enough to give you an overall idea of that era.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Um, yeah, I just painted this guitar blue. Isn’t it beautiful? What do you mean? “Pica-who?” No, I don’t know what you are talking about. That was before my time. 

      • Anonymous

        Hard to tell from the little we saw what was or wasn’t in the dossier.  But, frankly, it’s irrelevant.  Because everyone else had the same dossier, and Josh was the only one complaining.  Curiously, though, he also made a remark to the effect that “the ’70s I know are the disco ’70’s”, so apparently he does have some familiarity with the era.  In other words, he was looking for an excuse.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, he’s one of those who always finds an outside cause for an inside failing. “It wasn’t my fault, it was (fill in circumstance, other person’s name, bad luck, act of God, etc)”. I agree he’s obviously insecure and hyperdefensive; my experience with such people I’ve known is that they’ve been over-coddled and special-snowflaked growing up. The result somebody who’s unable to hear criticism, and my suspicion has been that under the blowhard-y show of confidence and superiority they fear they’re a poser. 

          Not to psychoanalyze Clinique or anything. Whatever his deal is, it makes him almost unwatchable. He can’t get off the screen fast enough for me.

        • Anonymous

          Right, it is irrelevant. It was just one more thing for me to complain about from a production standpoint. (And apparently, just one more HP product placement opportunity for them.)

      • Marie Drucker

        Sigh. And not a single person made a prairie skirt. It must have been missing from the dossier. But I had several in the 1970s. Of course, I was 10 years old in 1976… wore one to my elementary school graduation.

        • Anonymous

          Right, where was the high-fashion nod to the Gunne Sax dress?  

    • Anonymous

      The ass on those pants is really… Ass. Like deep-fried ass smothered in Cheez Whiz, with ass fritters and ass dipping sauce on the side. Whether he knew anything about the 70s or not, he should’ve been able to look at the ass of those pants and know it made her butt look lumpy, misshapen and just plain weird.

      • Anonymous

        Thalia – that almost sounds appetizing, in a Southern-Fried, Heart-Attack-On-A-Plate kind of way.

    • Sara__B

      We usually tucked our shirts into our tight, high-waisted, wide-legged pants in the 70s. That’s the only part of Josh’s slacks outfit that reads 70s. I actually like the dress, even its only 70s design element is the almost-halter top, but that slacks outfit is an eye-searing, mind-boggling, jaw-dropping mess, much like Josh himself. If he learns to edit, he may become a good designer, but his personality flaws and psychological issues are going to hold him back. I hope he finds the help he needs before it’s too late.

    • Anonymous

      I lived through the 80s.  I’m not proud to say that I had the big hair, I wore blue mascara, I embraced shoulder pads – I looked a hot mess, but it was the 80s so I just blended in with the scenery.

      Those hiddy, stripped pants were NOT 80s, no, they were too ugly even for that decade.  He should have been gone instead of Anthony, who wasn’t any good this week but was far less horrible than this monstrosity!

      I think the Drama Vortex is nothing more than a wanna-be professional reality show star.  He’s playing a role and he’s not that good an actor.  And whatever he is, he’s not stupid, and he knew that acting out and being a big bitch would get him plenty of camera time.  He must be thrilled that he’s got so many people talking about him – that was his plan and it worked.

      If the show had an ounce of integrity left, he would have been gone this week, but it doesn’t and BM doesn’t think they’ve wrung the last bit of bitchy drama queen theatrics out of him yet.  It’s a shame what they’ve done to a once great show, next year I think I’ll read your recaps but I don’t think I can stand watching it another season.

    • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

      You know, I could actually understand this BETTER if he had lived through the 70s — it’s such a complete rejection of the decade that I could see it being the pathological response of someone with really bad memories of the time. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      I had some  plaid pants in the 70’s. They were bell bottoms with cuffs. Thinking back, I had other flared pants with cuffs. None of my pants were lookin’ like Josh’s. I laugh til I cry every time I see the back of his pants! How could he not see how long her ass looked? It’s really hysterical. 

      I hope you’re right about him leaving soon. What a  m e a n  w h i n e y  ass!

    • Anonymous

      “you’re being aggressive…” HAHAHHA omg. I screamed with laughter. translation: “I’m the aggressor – I’m always the aggressor. This is not how we play! I’m taking my marbles and going home!”
      Viktor was AWESOME. Noneed tobe an asshole just tell him like it is…Bitch I wasnt born in no 70s either but there are movies for god’s sake! Kimberly – nice little jab then Bert with the Bitch you need to knwo this shit!
      LOVED IT!
      I want ten minutes with this kid.

    • Anonymous

      “Lookie me! Im Mondo – If Mondo was drunk as hell or having a stroke!”

      • Anonymous

        you know, it did seem like he was being referential to one of Mondo’s outfits from last season, but I couldn’t place my fingers on it. But to me, it screamed, “BAD MONDO COPY!”

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash
          • Anonymous

            thanks. And I just re-read that post and cried all over again. I love TLo. I really, really do. Such an inspiration. I remember sharing that post with my 13 year old son.

    • Anonymous

      Nothing is more grating than the whole “I didn’t live through [fill in the blank]“.  Even Mondo tried that at one point.  I thought his colleagues schooled him with just the right proper decorum.  All Poor Little Clinique could do was shake his head and walk away in a snit fit.  

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        Now that I think of it, I DO remember Mondo’s poor excuse for resort wear during the Michael Kors challenge last year — he’d never been to a resort and spent his vacations sitting around in his underwear.  That was the episode when he was in the bottom for that sad little bathing suit and hoodie.  

    • Anonymous

      That plaid must have been the worst choices for those pants : look how thick he managed to make his model look !
      As for the maxi dress… Well, all the designers making maxidresses apparently had the same problem : it wasn’t maxidresses. It was some badly constructed long dresses. I was amazed to see that none of them seemed to have any idea of what make a maxidress works : the skirt has to be flowy, to give a sense of lightness. Those seemed just so contriving.
      Well, I do hope that the next episode is going to be Josh’s swan’s song because I can’t stand him anymore. Sure, it was a joy to see him lose his confidence and trying to sharpen his nails inefficiently on Viktor, but I don’t watch the show to see that sort of people.
      Santino was boarding on abusive but you could see the big teddy bear under the fang. And he was truly funny, a thing that Josh isn’t.
      Even Wendy Pepper added some value to the show, Kenley was clueless, Irina had such style and talent and Gretchen was unwillingly funny. Josh ? nope, nothing to make him valuable as a TV character.

      • Anonymous

        oh come on, what classic TV Santino made when he crawled under the work table in a fetal position crying! Then produced that god-awful excuse for a lingerie collection. That’s TV gold.

        • Anonymous

          I totally agree with you. Still it was entertaining, not painfull to see. And I still think Santino was a softie inside.
          Josh’s an embarassement for everyone : himself, the other contestants and the viewers.

        • Anonymous

          And, as I just finished to rewatch season 1 I’m preparing myself for a s02 rewatch, because I need to remind myself why I used to watch the show, before…

    • http://twitter.com/VicksieDo Vickie Lord

      Usually the asshat makes it to #3 and is dismissed. Wendy Pepper’s face when this happened to her is still my favorite moment in PR history :-)

      • Anonymous

         Dang – I kind of liked her collection and at least SHE DID NOT CHEAT LIKE KARA SAUN!

    • Anonymous

      Faint hope: better than no hope.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMLK23QK6C7NMLMVVYA5POXKJY WhiteMage

      “we’re left with the tiniest bit of hope that that season’s jackass won’t make it to the finals.”

      but he DID make it to the finals. they all did. can you really feel happy about that? decoy or not, he got to show at fashion week. isn’t that all there is to it?

      • Anonymous

        That collection is akin to a flasher in the park, however. There’s exposure, but it’s not the kind of exposure you would actually want.

    • Anonymous

      Josh actually showed amazing skill in making a stick-thin model look like she had “junk in the trunk”, maybe the Kardashian sisters will hire him…

    • Anonymous

      Sorry, that print on the maxi skirt IS god awful ugly. 

    • Anonymous

      The big plaid was seen in the ’70s. But not like that. He’d have had to use it in fall colors for wide legged trousers or a poncho or something. 

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      I laugh every time I see that poor model’s butt. Those pants give her ass its own hourglass figure!
      Yeah, the maxidress looks like early ’90s Versace for Target line.
      He was definitely aufable this week. I’d have preferred that he or Laura gone over Anthony, who made one or two nice things at various points this season.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know Josh and I feel uncomfortable discussing his mental health in this forum but I am concerned.  There’s been a storm brewing for several weeks and I’m don’t know which is worse, it breaking on the show and the producers milking it, or it breaking in private as (somewhat deserved) internet scorn hits him.  I almost hope it happened while he was on the show, not for the schadenfreude but so he can’t ignore it and cover it up with another veneer (both emotional and cosmetic!)

      In the challenge with Becky and Anya I thought he was a jackass but when he absolutely flipped out on Bert for cursing it went to a whole different level.  There is an intensity and an unpredictability about his outbursts that makes me think he is desperately, desperately clinging to control.  

      I realize this came right after the judges’ beating, but his response to Viktor’s (calm and entirely reasonable) comment about knowing the 70s through movies and TV was so extreme, especially his bizarre accusation that Viktor was getting aggressive.  I’m also thankful that the other designers’ responses – Kimberly’s in particular – were so calm.  Given that most of the other designers don’t care for him it could have set off another argument.

      Also, not to be catty but his “I was barely alive in the 80s” and his claim in the bio to be 25 – no.  I’m not saying he’s 40 but he’s not 25.

      Again, I hate to make assumptions based on an edited reality show but to me he has devolved  from a standard “villain” character to a genuine cause for concern.  I don’t think he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, as others have suggested.  He is, however, incredibly insecure and overly sensitive, which for him translates into hostility and aggression rather than crying or shyness.  That makes for a great character but an uncomfortable person.

      • Anonymous

        I agree, it is impossible to know what is really going on here, since we are seeing an edited version of things that happened while the people involved knew they were being filmed and were probably aware of the need to create drama.

        My hunch is that he is putting this on for the camera, to get attention. I admit I don’t understand why anyone would want that kind of negative attention, but he wouldn’t be the first.

    • http://profiles.google.com/katelynsypher Katie Sypher

      The way those plaid pants were constructed, it looks like her ass cheeks are running away from each other.

    • Anonymous

      I’m pretty sure that there’s something from the Geneva Convention that makes the fit and proportion on those pants crimes punishable by an international court of law. 

    • Anonymous

      I had an adorable plaid winter coat (maxi length) in the early 70s. It was a big black-and-white Buffalo plaid, with pleats below the yoke on the back, making it bigger and wider. And big black buttons. Wore that coat out I loved it so. One of my friends had a plaid winter coat with a conical hood that was very expensive and very I. Magnin, which the rest of us only dreamt of being able to afford. But, anyway, plaids were around in the 70s. Just not like THAT monstrous pair of pants. I remember plaid kilts with the pins and short plaid A-line skirts worn with knee socks and spectator oxfords or saddle shoes. “Gaucho” pants or knickers with boots. And I remember wide-legged wool pants (low on the hips from 1968 or 69 till maybe 71 or 72) and short, chunky sweaters being all the rage. Then everything went all Annie Hall at the end of the decade and we all gave up our wire rims and went to big tortoiseshell glasses, hats, ties, vests, loose menswear pants… Can you imagine Diane Keaton is those tight, plaid pants? As if. There is so much cute stuff that screams 70s that these designers didn’t touch.

      • Anonymous

        I Magnin, sigh!
        I posted about big plaids, too.  I was even gonna mention the dreaded Gaucho pants! He just did it all wrong. 

      • Anonymous

        Oh my gosh…I. Magnin…blast from the past

      • Anonymous

        gaucho pants! That was my favorite outfit in elementary school, my blue gaucho pants and shirt with nice red and white design on the front (of the shirt). I would have liked to have seen someone make an updated gaucho.

      • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

        Remember plaid baggies?  Late 70’s huge legged pants with cuffs. I had a pair in (shuddering to think on it now) purple and brown plaid.  Baggies paired with the tux style top would have saved it.  But that would have required some research with his dossier and a bit of fore thought.

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        Imagine what Seth Aaron would have done with one of those big plaids.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      I totally remembered wearing something similar to the pink outfit in the 1980’s. That was all I could think about when watching the runway portion. 

      The print on the dress looks pretty good to me, from a distance, seeing the dress as a whole. It intrigues me.

    • Anonymous

      Everything that ass has made thus far has looked like he’s come out of 1980s.  This is no surprise.  

      • Anonymous

        Even the plaid pants remind me of the 80s if for no other reason than the awful fit.  

    • Margot Brose

      He looks obscenely smug in the last picture. I bet an off-screen producer just made a little “Fuggedaboudit” gesture.

    • Anonymous

      When he ran his hand across Viktor’s jacket on the form, it reminded me of a dog marking his territory. Ugh. Begone, twit.

      • Anonymous

        There was some definite bad touch going on there. 

      • Anonymous

        That was weird and fairly creepy.

        • Anonymous

          It was, and I was so happy to see Kimberly go up to Viktor and tell him what happened. 

    • Anonymous

      Exactly what is UP the current fashion obsession with the over big, UNtailored, “Maxi” dress?  Is it begat from the “Maxi-Pad?”  Why don’t we call it what it is?  An ugly tent-like rag that erases every inch of the wonderful female form.  Coco Chanel must be rolling in her grave.

      • Marie Drucker

        Whenever I think maxi dress — and I think it got it’s name for being the opposite of a mini — I think Phyllis from the Mary Tyler Moore show. Man, I miss that show. 

        • Anonymous

          There were midi skirts as well. Hit at the bottom of the calf and made one’s legs look like stumps. Fortunately, those left the scene rather quickly.

          • Anonymous

            Yup – lived it.  One day at school I could be wearing a midi dress, (with black crinkle vinyl boots of course!), the next day hot pants with pantyhose and white vinyl boots, and the next day a cotton reptile print maxi skirt with an extended waitband a la Candy Pruitt in “Here Comes the Brides” (wearer of the 1800’s version of the “bumpit”.)  Being in the upper midwest, it was all generally covered with a double-breasted, large buttoned maxi-coat with Rhoda-styled rug-yarn knit cloche.  With a knit flower on the side. 

            While I do remember plaid pants in a large windowpane print, they were very wide-legged and cuffed on the bottom and paired with a tight polyester ribbed sweater.  Preferably poor boy.

            • Now I am The Bee

              Wow–you just described my entire 70s wardrobe!  Poor boy sweaters–almost forgot about them!  I had bunches. 

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              That sounds like what Irina would have done with this challenge. I don’t usually think of LA as the season with the best designers, but she would have really knocked this out of the park. And Gordana of course. Great sweaters from those gals.

    • Anonymous

      I was shocked that Clinque wasn’t aufed. Those pants made me shriek even before Kors gave a cry of dismay. The defensiveness Joshua showed during his critique was approaching the red zone. I was a bit frightened for the judges. He has a rationalization for everything.

      Clearly, this guy has issues. I can’t add insights that many of you haven’t already posted so eloquently. It’s disheartening to see wildly neurotic characters like Joshua, Kenley, Wendy Pepper and Gretchen retained for “entertainment value” on the program. An element of drama or tension is expected, but the mean-spirited behavior that some contestants have displayed of late has been outrageous. I wouldn’t be surprised if the producers manipulate constestants’ behavior at times, but with those who are rotten at the core, only nastiness will emerge over time. 

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Clearly some psychiatric screening is in order pre production.

        • Anonymous

          That’s actually a very good idea. Given the goldfish bowl existence, lack of sleep, tight timetables, etc., a person with MH issues could easily encounter serious problems. There’s a significant difference between a bit of drama for the cameras and someone who has a real breakdown.

          I join with the other bitter kittens in offering a sacrifice to the heavens to see Miz Drama Vortex auf’d – and the sooner the better.

          srq

          • Anonymous

            I can’t believe they don’t do some kind of mental health screening (whether or not it’s very ‘good’ whatever that means, I don’t know.). But these (Bravo/Lifetime and/or whatever mega-conglomerate actually owns the name/brand) are big corporations with serious lawyers on call, they aren’t going to cram everybody into the same space 24/7 under pressure without creating some plausible deniability in case somebody loses it and intentionally or accidentally causes somebody else harm.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          as far as i know they do do that–or at least they used to. if you dig around long & far enough, you might find reference to the “psychiatric interviews” done pre-casting w/ earlier contestants. i dont know if they still do them, but they would be a good idea. i think they might cos, regardless of the amateur diagnoses i’ve seen here all season {& i’m sure theyre all over the PR internet}, theres nothing really wrong w/ any of these people. yeah, oliver was a little whiny, josh is horribly narcissistic & unrealistic, viktor is a bit bitter, but, for heavens sake, none of these people have a major mental illness, whether any of us like any of them or not.

          • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

            Jeff Probst has said in interviews that they do that for “Survivor”, and frankly, the completely sane people– they don’t want. They look for people who are at least mildly neurotic.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RHLSUVX3NCPB4OSS5BM7GZIXUE P. Capet

      I like plaids, but will have nightmares about these big scary plaid monster pants.  Take cover!  These giant pants, angry to have been created in the first place, have vowed to wreak destruction on anyone who dares to steal a glance their way!  Oh nooo!  Here they come!!  Watch out!!  (One plus — The movie version could be made on a shoestring budget.)

    • Anonymous

      I actually “kinda-sorta” liked the tuxedo shirt–though, to be clear, that doesn’t mean it IN ANY WAY fits the objectives of the challenge.  On the other hand, the print on his second look is beyond hideous.  I reiterate:  beyond.

    • Ella B. Mudge

      The plaid pants made me LOL, because they were not unlike the hiddy plaid golfing pants that some of the pros wore in the ’70’s. 

    • Anonymous

      Summoning the interest to comment on these looks: 
      The first is awful. Just awful – in almost every conceivable way.

      The second is not – the print is not my favourite, and even with a better print it wouldn’t be particularly appropriate for the challenge, but it would be a cute if not exactly interesting dress.

      Unrelated to any of these looks, but not entirely unrelated to their creator, it occurs to me that somehow Project Runway has metamorphosed into a knock-off of The Fashion Show (more so the first season thereof). Except the judging on that show made more sense.

    • Anonymous

      clinique? more like cover gurrrrl. mary. 

    • Anonymous

      I’m so tired of Miss Priss I don’t even care what he makes. Bratty toddlers bore me, especially large, hairy ones with a Brylcreem fixation.

    • Anonymous

      Okay, I have a plan. Let’s all pitch in a few dollars and rent a high profile billboard, maybe Times Square.  We can have it rotating pictures like Josh’s pants from this week, Anya’s Pocahontas shirt with the split pants, Anthony Ryan’s New Balance dress (shorts – what was that?), and Olivier’s Avant Garde look.  The message would be “Wanted, producers with a vision to over throw Bunim-Murray and rescue Project Runway.  This is what they have done to our show and these atrocities didn’t even get them sent home.”  Maybe someone will come riding in on a white horse and rescue us.

      • Anonymous

        The thing is, was the judging ever not horribly arbitrary and biased towards “personality”? Santino had several achievements in the field of ugly garbage, Wendy Pepper coasted merrily on a wave of barely-designed mediocrity, and there have been countless bare butts sent down the runway with the perpetrators living to design another day. I’d argue that Bunim/Murray can’t cast very well, since the casts of the earlier seasons were much, much better, but I’m not sure the judging was superior in the good old days. You just had more compelling talent, and in a show like this a good cast can mask a myriad of sins.

        • Anonymous

          The thing is, was the judging ever not horribly arbitrary and biased towards “personality”?

          Always.  Santino’s “lingerie” not getting him kicked off?  Vincent staying and not Alison?  Christian not being auf’ed after that prom dress travesty?

        • Anonymous

          *Sigh*  I hate when people kill a good rant with logic.

          • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

            Ain’t it awful?

    • Heather Kaplin

      ” we’re left with the tiniest bit of hope that that season’s jackass won’t make it to the finals.”

      From your mouths to the producers’ ears…. *sigh*

    • http://twitter.com/ecorwin EricaC

      I happened to be drinking my morning coffee when the guest judge said no girl would get laid in those pants. I had to fight hard not to spit my mouthful of coffee all over the living room.
       

      • Anonymous

        Right?? I was wondering where the heck that comment came from.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        That was a true LOL moment for me!

    • http://twitter.com/Rochelle_B1978 rochelle barron

      Personally, for me Josh doesn’t even rank as Project Runway villain material.  Yes, he’s often bratty and catty and straight up full of it (you didn’t live in the seventies?  Baby boo…other than Bert neither did anyone else LOL)  but I find myself more annoyed by him than full out disliking him.  I think he’s the type of person that has no middle ground; everything’s either glitter and rainbows and nothing hurts or OMFG the sky is falling and the world is ending.  From what they’ve shown, Josh is really defensive and you kind of have to wonder what he’s experienced that makes him ready to go to war over the most innocuous of comments or perceived slights.  

      He seems like he’s learned somewhere that the only way he’s going to get attention is to scream for it (enter the Bedazzler) and that once he has it he has to bruise people like a UFC fighter to keep it.  He’s got some serious…I’ll be kind and call them quirks but I don’t see the guy as evil incarnate.  Now that woman on Dance Moms on the other hand….XD

      Moving off of Josh and onto his offering to the PR gods this week….just no.  It was obvious from the beginning he was floundering and didn’t really have any direction and that showed on the runway.  There’s just not one redeeming quality to those pants I’m sorry to say but I do think the dress isn’t *that* bad…especially when put next to Laura’s.  I absolutely think he should have been in the bottom but Laura should have been right next to him and either of them could have gone and I’d have been ok with it.  Anthony Ryan’s pieces had issues and he missed the brief as well, but for my money there were far more offensive pieces on the runway than his.  Josh has had some moments where he’s done well…I’m yet to see anything impressive out of Laura…her ONLY win was courtesy of her partner being gracious enough to hand it to her.  At this stage in the competition she should have shown us something substantial…she hasn’t.

      And seriously, someone call Uli and have have her come in and show these guys how prints SHOULD be done because sweet grilled cheesus my eyes are still BURNING from some of the prints the designers have used and the way they’ve manipulated them this season.

    • Lori

      I’m looking forward to T Lo ripping his collection more than I am to the finale.

    • Anonymous

      Couldn’t be uglier. The models continue to be aggressively uninspiring in the beauty dept. as well. Hence I continue to not watch the show.

      • Anonymous

        So love your avatar.  I dream about that McQueen headpiece and dress.  If I ever got married to a Scottish earl at his ancestral castle that’s what I’d want to wear.

    • Anonymous

      I’ve always wondered how he got past the first round with his taste issues.

    • Anna Maria Diamanti

      As someone pointed out, that plaid monstrosity is the trashy cousin of Mondo’s beautiful (if a little too-high waisted) design from last season: http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2010/10/pr-congratulations-27.html.

      But, Mondo having actual talent, managed to make his ultra-high waisted bold pattern skin-tight pants fit the model properly and not cause her size zero derriere and stomach to bulge out in every direction.

      Clearly I’m still bitter about last season’s finale, because it makes me want to spit that Mondo lost to Gretchen’s joke of a collection, and yet this Clinique clown makes it far enough to show at Bryant Park as well. Even more infuriating is Anthony Ryan getting sent home before Josh when AR’s second look would have received a tongue bath had Gretchen sent it down the runway.

      Argh!

      • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

        I’m pissed that I clicked the link for Mondo’s pants because, like it did for you, it brought back the bitterness of Wretchen Gretchen winning over Mondo,  It still hurts my head and boggles my mind and makes me fear the outcome of this season. Shudder. 

    • http://twitter.com/jennsaysmeow Fifi LaRoux

      I liked his dress, but I agree it has nothing 70s about it at all.

      Also, how are his eyebrows still so perfectly waxed? Is he doing it himself or is he so full of himself he doesn’t think that the other designers would take the chance to dump hot wax in his eyes, and lets someone else do it?

      • Anonymous

        I think the whole show is filmed over a period of about 3 weeks.  I think he is probably relentlessly tweezing in the interim…

    • Anonymous

      I actually didn’t think the fabric on the second look was all that bad (not that it was all that good, either).  Frankly, it reminded me of the design he created out of the colored aquarium stones for the pet store challenge (not exactly the same colors but the vibrant neonesque colors on the black background).  I’ve not gone back to look at it but I think there were a lot of similar colors in both – and he was praised wildly for what he did with the aquarium stones.  Seems to me he probably thought he would be safe using a similar palette for his second look which may have been one reason he was so taken aback by the judges’ comments concerning this one.  Now I am going to have to go back to see if my memory is correct…. drat. 

      • Mary McClelland

        yeah I didn’t mind the fabric that much either.  I was more bothered by the fact that the top looked like a bathing suit! ew

    • http://profiles.google.com/bratling2 Laura Davies

      Y’know, when we first saw that ugly top, it looked red, and made me say that he was designing a new uniform for Star Trek…..

    • Anonymous

      I can’t stop laughing at all the descriptions of the way the model’s ass looked in those pants.

      I hope she never reads this, because can you imagine how it would make her feel to hear her ass described as lumpy, misshapen,wide, long, flat, weird, and having its own hourglass figure?  Yeah, it’s obvious that it’s the pants that are the problem and not her ass, but man…can you imagine seeing your ass described as “deep-fried ass?”

      Oh man, now I’m laughing again. 

    • Anonymous

      I honestly feel bad for Josh. I feel like he knows that he’s not the best there (of a pretty weak group of designers), and he has a lot of self-doubt and guilt for not being great. It ends up coming across in defensiveness and ego. He should have been kicked off this week (if not already), but the designers are stringing him along because he brings “the drama” or something. I kind of hope that watching the season on TV somehow helps him.

      That being said, he needs to cut it out with the excuses. I’m really surprised no one called out the fact that he had a dossier for this challenge.

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      Remember when he went ballistic “because” Bert used the F-word? Yet this week Anya let out a string of curse words in the sewing room and Josh didn’t bat an eye??

    • Anonymous

      This outfit reminded me of a cute short-sleeve princess seamed seersucker coat-blouse that I wore with a swingy a-line mini skirt in 1973-74.  It was pastel plaid on a white field–  I called it my “sherbet suit”–  sounds awful now, but I loved that outfit, not least because my mother taught me to match the plaids when I made it.  Josh’s horrible effort at matching made my eyes hurt.  

      It’s not that plaids weren’t in– it’s just that they were more subtle than this fabric, and were used differently.  I really, really miss that little outfit…  Only Victor seemed to remember how jackets were used well at all.  

    • Lisa

      Oh, yes, the hissyfit was delicious to see… just a little further now!

    • http://fafafab.tumblr.com/ fafafab

      he’s disgusting, everything he designs is horrible, his personality is a joke, and I’m sick and tired of PR giving him way too much time, I hate how these attention seeking characters become the center of a contest show regardless of their lack of talent

      PLEASE LET HIM GO ALREADY, he doesn’t deserve another minute on anyone’s tv

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      i’m sure i’ll have something else to say–i’m watching this right now–but what immediately comes to mind is how the h-e-double-toothpicks can someone who wants to dress all the models like the village people claim to know nothing about the 70s?

      that, of course, it didnt translate is true. did he lose that corner of his mind perhaps somewhere along the route whereupon anya dropped her money?

      • Mary McClelland

        I know – I was thinking that too.  Wasn’t this asshat talking VIllage People for like two straight (no pun intended) challenges and now all the sudden its like the 70’s don’t exist in his repertoire?  That was so odd! In fact when they first announced the challenge I was suspecting him to be leaping with glee at the opportunity to FINALLY descend his glorious idea of a VP collection to the world. In fact I was expecting him to be on the bottom for being too OTT and costumey 70’s. And instead he gave us an early 80’s secretary’s after work look? Weird…  

        • http://twitter.com/Rochelle_B1978 rochelle barron

          I was right there with you. I thought he was going to go WAY over the top and be totally literal.  I won’t lie…I thought we’d get some super shiny, metallic, bell bottomed, bedazzled within an inch of its life jump suit of doom.  I figured he’d  costume it up and be ripped for that.  I expected his problem to be the inability to tone it down, edit his work and not design something that looked straight out of Roller Boogie.

          I think maybe he was aware that might be the expectation of him and intentionally tried to go in a different direction…unfortunately he went in the wrong one but, yeah lol.

          • Anonymous

            No, that turned out to be Bert – but he Made It Work, even so.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe he meant the ’80s Village People, when they decided to put on a bunch of makeup and become a new wave band?

      • Anonymous

        Excellent point about the Village People, I’d forgotten that. And, honestly, didn’t he do fashion history as part of his training? Or is he self trained?

    • Now I am The Bee

      My oh my I haven’t seen an uglier outfit on PR since Blade’s model was pooping fabric.  (I think it was Blade–I get him and Suede mixed up, still.)  The whole thing was just nonsense.  And had nothing to do with the 70s–except that we did wear shits and pants at that time.  Even the dress, while not as offensive, was not esthetically pleasing.  Poor Josh. 
      It’s interesting how we love to analyze these people we only see in carefully edited snippets on TV.  Josh may have childhood issues, he may have some syndrome or mental disease or whatever. 
      To me–he is simply a totally self-centered person, and only sees the entire universe as it relates to his own self.  He has his own name tatooed on his wrist, fer cripes sake.  When Oliverierier went home–the first thing he said was who was gonna make his coffee!  People like that are just as they are adn will be no different.  Anyone who questions him, his actions or his decisions will be met with disbelief and anger.  
      I lived with someone like this for 2 years–and they never look at the world any differently.  So sad….

      He’s not long for this show….

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        blayne, oh blayne, you mean blayne.

        & shirts!

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        He has is OWN NAME tattooed on his wrist — I’ll have to go back and look now.  That’s unbelievable.  

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Maybe he has a very serious drug or alcohol problem, and he tattooed it there in case he passed out?  And withdrawal would explain the bitchy craziness

      • Anonymous

         When Oliverierier went home–the first thing he said was who was gonna make his coffee!

        That was when Bryce went home.  I guess B. was his personal b****.

    • Anonymous

      He needs to go next. He should have gone a while back, IMO.

      I don’t usually comment on the models, but this season it seems like they found a bunch of dead faced girls who don’t know how to walk or sell an outfit. The only model-y thing about them is they’re really tall and really slender. I went back to the stills of Mondo’s high-waisted print pants outfit and was struck by the relative fierceness of that model compared to this crop.  

      • Anonymous

        I wonder if they way-downed what they’re paying the models (isn’t there union scale or something?)  If I was a young model trying to get my foot in the door, I would so totally go for this show– no, you don’t get to talk or “act” or anything, but you are in living rooms all over America (however briefly) every week until you’re bumped off– it seems like an opportunity.  

        It (in a timely fashion) has been making me think of the first time I noticed Shelley Hack– she was a model in the junior teen section of the Sears (or Penney’s, can’t remember) catalog in the late sixties or early seventies.  She stood out because she wasn’t a pouting, slouching wanna-be:  she was actually laughing in some of the pictures, giving that “Charlie” vibe that made her famous a few years later.  I noticed her, I wanted to be her, and when she got famous a few years later it made me feel like it was “my” success (I know, delusions on my part, but I was a teenager).  

        As this season goes on, the models left are starting to register with me, but there’s still no one that stands out except maybe Kimberley’s– I think her model saved her this week.  

        • Anonymous

          I wonder if they way-downed what they’re paying the models

          As I understand it, the models are not paid one red cent.  That’s why models occasionally quit to take an actual paying job.

          (isn’t there union scale or something?)

          Models, at least in the U.S., are not unionized.

          • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

            Wow. In past seasons, the models got a lot of attention. There was the choosing of the model by the winner at the beginning of the show, which actually involved saying the models’ names so that they became more than just vague figures. At some point there was even a show just about the models. Definitely valuable exposure. This season I have no sense even which models go with which designers, or if it’s random. Hmm. Heidi should take better care of them.

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              She really should. These poor girls look positively haggard.

            • http://palimpsest.typepad.com/frogsandravens Rana

              I miss the model selections.  It was interesting, and had the opportunity for cattiness and shake-ups that wasn’t forced and unpleasant.

    • Anonymous

      The first outfit looks like a cheap, poorly-made court jester’s costume.
      Second outfit, is a boring Forever 21 maxi dress knock-off, yes he did the impossible and did a knock-off of Forever 21.
      Yes I loved seeing the moment where he knew he had no comeback and just stomped off! That was great!
      And even if he is in the final three, his collection would suggest he finishes a DISTANT third to whomever the other two are.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      okay. i woulda sent laura home if the contest were truly only about the work on the runway this week. his second dress is not that bad. & i cant stand either one of them as people, so it isnt that. but, of course, i’ve seen the finalé shows & hers is far better than his, far better than most of the rest of theirs, so i guess it’s better she’s still there. i guess.

      as an aside, he’s looking for an excuse when he says he doesnt understand, or whatever, the 70s. i sell 70s clothes every day of my life, heaven willing, & i can see how he interpreted them. if what we saw was the content & the tenor of the dossier, he chose his points, some of which are really applicable, from what he already knew– cos his references are real & they were not noted in the dossier at all.

      ie:
      we did wear tuxedo shirts in the 70s. definitely–definitely–in the late 70s &, in truth, from the late 60s all the way thru. remember the pastel rockstar tuxedo shirts, a goodlookin but suddenly forgotten item that shoulda & coulda shown up last week were anyone thinking?

      but he took a tuxedo shirt & hybrided it up in the worst f’ing way possible–w/ something like a cross between an era-appropriate baseball jacket & an era-totally-inappropriate jogging jacket– or whatever they were called. that & his color, um, spectrum, if you will– totally utterly revulsively & as per usual 1980s all the way.

      same w/ the pants. 70s beyond any shadow of a shadow of a doubt did include plaids & certainly highwaisted pants– but not, o not!, that plaid & equally not a thin & more or less waistbandless waist. if yr gonna go for a 70s highwaist, you want it to be two inches wide. what he has there instead, as many have noted, is a bad bad copy of mondo highwaisted waist. & he even forgot the bottom & its bell, nevermind the bottom of the person.

      okay, theres that.

      i find viktor grating but he still deserved this win. no question. i was kinda half paying attention when they all walked out & it was so very obvious that viktor, not for heavens sake, anya deserved it that my mind kind of jarred there when i realized that he didnt get it. hard to explain. i knew the outcome but i was still amazed.

      not that i didnt love bert’s first dress–but thats for tomorrow or tuesday or sometime.

      okay, done.

    • fragileindustries

      Dead meat.  This is the set-up.  They auf’ed a more talented, but momentarily boring, designer, so that when Josh is auf’ed next week, we breathe a dramatic sigh of relief, regardless of what he actually does in that competition.  I wouldn’t mind the manipulation if a) it wasn’t so obvious, and/or b) if this wasn’t pretending to actually have something to do with actual creative challenges.  Story gets in the way of art.

    • Anonymous

      Josh has enough issues to fill up the periodicals section in the library. That was some bad, bad fashion. And some bad, bad behavior. 

    • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

      That pink and black shirt looked, to me, like a shirt for a flamboyant horse jockey.

    • Anonymous

      WOW….Did someones psyche teacher give Josh as an assignment???? 

    • Anonymous

      He is this year’s Micheal C. He will be in the top 4 and then when he comes back to NY with a collection will be eliminated. They are going to milk this for all the ratings they can.

    • Anonymous

      Best post title ever.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/dLUE.9h6zdoHMLprP6AQrSQpKt0CZys-#e58b4 tom

      Crash and burn is the right title.  “I didn’t live during the ’70’s” is no excuse.  I didn’t live during the ’40’s but I sure the hell could get on the internet and find ’40’s fashion.  Barring that I could go to the library and ask the nice reference librarian for titles regarding fashion and dress for say 1943 to 1948, with my little post it with the book nos. I could do my research.

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        As a librarian, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your posting.  Honestly, if you were going to be on Survivor, you’d learn how to make fire, wouldn’t you?  If you were going on Amazing Race, hopefully, you’d learn how to read a map or learn to drive stick-shift!  Designers should know some fashion history.  It’s not like you even have to GO TO THE LIBRARY nowadays!!!

        • https://me.yahoo.com/a/dLUE.9h6zdoHMLprP6AQrSQpKt0CZys-#e58b4 tom

          Karen, I love the library and librarians.  Reading is still my favorite activity; the library is the only place I can think of where you get good service from  people that want to help and it doesn’t cost a dime. 

      • Anonymous

        You couldn’t do that if you were a PR contestant.  They don’t have access to the internet or the library.   They got the dossier, and that was the only research they could do (barring being nice to Bert and asking him!).

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          He probably means, upon being cast. Just go and bone up on all types of fashion history because you NEVER KNOW what they’re going to throw at you!

          • Lisa

            Exactly.   You hear fashion designers all the time talking about vintage and designers who inspire them.  Michael Knight won for his Pam Grier outfit, and he was the youngest contestant that season.  He didn’t sit there and whine how he wasn’t born yet when Pam Grier was making all of her movies.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Absolutely.  One of my FAVORITE costumed movies of all time was The Philadelphia Story with Katharine Hepburn, Jimmy Stewart, and Cary Grant.  It was made in 1940.  My mother wasn’t even born in 1940!  Another great one was My Fair Lady.  It was from 1964 — 5 years before my father graduated from high school.

              This is not that mind-boggling.  How do you become a designer and not know the New Look?  Or Edith Head?  Or Hugo Boss?  All of them were before Josh’s time and mine, but I know all of them and it’s not my profession (though it is a really extensive hobby)

    • Anonymous

      You know if Pippa Middleton had worn those pants at the Royal Wedding, we would have been spared all the ensuing ink about what a great butt she has. 

    • Anonymous

      It’s a good thing that wedgies aren’t a felony.

      –GothamTomato

    • http://twitter.com/foodhussy foodhussy

      It was like it was trying to be Mondo but not even coming close. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2B6U4UNVYIV5DLEG6Z24ALYOC4 Dan Alexander

      Just keep telling yourself “THIS IS A REALITY GAME SHOW”!  It’s not the honest and best designer that wins, it’s always about their sad story when Tim goes to visit them at home before Fashion Week.  “I am getting kicked out of my apartment and my boyfriend just broke up with me”! Just strap yourselves in, cuz a win by Josh could be just around the corner!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

        that will be the moment that this show officially jumps the shark. I would be surprised if Lifetime kept the show if that happens. And if it does, my advice to TIm is “RUN! Run far away and don’t look back!”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

        that will be the moment that this show officially jumps the shark. I would be surprised if Lifetime kept the show if that happens. And if it does, my advice to TIm is “RUN! Run far away and don’t look back!”

    • Anonymous

      “Had this been an ’80s challenge, he might have wound up in the Top 3 (if you ignore the lousy proportions).” While I get TLo’s point about the decade, I can’t see how a pair of pants so ill-fitting that the plaid is completely distorted on every part of the model’s body could be anything but the loser in any competition.

      I’ve spent more minutes of my life than I like to admit in excoriating this vile douchebag, so that’s all I have to say about his efforts in this episode. Oh–except that I hate his stupid faux-leopard print tank top, from the Vile Douchebag Collection.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

      The plaid was the only possible 70’s element- but it was the BAD 70’s of plaid polyester slacks from Sears

      • Anonymous

        Sadly, I probably had some slacks from Sears that were plaid polyester, but I hope they didn’t make my behind look so tragic, and I sure wasn’t a model (just young and skinny!)

    • Tamara Hogan

      “You’re attacking me!” ???  Pot, meet this petulant bitch of a kettle.

    • Anonymous

      I’m amused by all the comments that predict that Miss Clinique Counter will be aufed in the next episode. Really? The producers see him as a source of  drama and that makes him realty TV gold. I predict that Josh will be like a nearly-impossible-to-kill cockroach; don’t be surprised if he’s there making trouble in the last episodes of this season.

      And that top in the first look? Star Trek retread.

    • Anonymous

      I have to say that as creepy as Josh is, he’s still a reality gold mine! Why would they dump him? Of course the idea that a better designer WILL get aufed so he can be kept around for his entertainment value is also really creepy. He IS fun to watch if you don’t look at his designs.

    • Anonymous

      I can’t wait for him to go. I did actually like the print on the dress, but that was it. And he’s such a jerk. Bert’s really turned around and Josh has just shown he needs a swift kick in the butt. Maybe several. He should have gone this week.

    • Anonymous

      I love

    • Anonymous

      I could see where he thought the print on the dress was 70’s…..it was rather psychedelic, mirrorball disco. But, yeah, I loved the criticism for him and his whiny tantrum and supercilious facial expression on the runway. He definitely got what he deserved.

    • Judy_J

      Watching Joshie have his little meltdown was delicious.  I think next week the auf will be between him and Laura.  They are definitely the lamest of the remaining contestants.

    • Anonymous

      Someone may have already mentioned this, but I’m shocked that Michael Kors didn’t call Josh out on borrowing the black strappy belts from Kors own recent (2010?) collection.

    • Anonymous

      I agree that that hideous pants outfit did not read 70s at all, but pattern mixing was *huge* in the 70s, as were plaid pants (cut entirely differently), for both sexes. I remember vividly.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

        I was thinking the same thing. My mom made a lot of our clothes back in the ’70’s and I know that my 2 brothers and my dad all had at least one pair of plaid pants. To this day, my brother has a fear of any plaid that isn’t the basic buffalo plaid in red and black. He won’t even let anything plaid touch his skin. 

        And Josh matched the hell out of that plaid, you have to give him credit for that. But that’s about all I give him credit for on that look, since I had a junior-high flashback when that look came out. I turned to my husband and said “Holy ’80’s, Batman!”.

        I don’t get the obsessive critique of the print on the maxi-dress, especially Nina’s. She kept calling it “acid leopard print”. I didn’t think it was that bad. I have one of my mom’s maxi dresses from the ’70’s and the print on it is far worse than the one Josh chose. In fact, while there is a leopard-spot motif in the fabric, the wavy lines and the way the colors merge and swirl together reminds me more of butterfly wings than leopard, but I didn’t see the fabric up close so maybe I’m wrong.

    • http://twitter.com/evergreen_g G and G

      I can’t really say anything more than what many others have already mentioned about Josh’s entries last week. All I could say is that poor Josh is running out of gimmicks from his small bag of tricks and his insecurity, poor taste, and lack of imagination is coming through ever so clearly on the show. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPPCA5BEYZ5DJTLZIP7HWFIXLY johnny

      Two words: Plaid and Leopard.

      Meh.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7JMAFJGRETO2ZRETWOH6LGH52Y Aaron

      When T&L makes a new 20 worst PR looks of all time, there will be a new entry.

    • http://www.facebook.com/claudeth.forbin Claudeth Forbin

      He is trying to channel Mondo.  Don’t you remember the high waisted pants from make your own fabric.  This is his second attempt to channel Mondo, as is his collection.  Each time FAIL.

    • http://twitter.com/TMamBo Therese Bohn

      Please send shiny-face home! (should have been ONE week into the competition, but they know his bitchiness and self-love would make him ratings fodder.