PR: Whatevs.

Posted on September 30, 2011

We’re not gonna do it. We refuse, kittens. We just can’t spend another Friday morning getting all ragey at the judges and/or producers.

Rage, after all, indicates a high level of engagement; an interest in the outcome. Rage means the producers have done their jobs. Well, you’ve finally done it, you guys. You’ve managed to take the two people who are probably the most engaged with this show and left them bored with your silliness and completely uninterested in the final outcome.

You could see where this was going in the first ten minutes. In fact, we called it on twitter last night. “You know she’s going to dye the muslin and win this freaking challenge.” Are we prophets? No, the show has become THAT predictable.

And yes, we’re just gonna throw this out there. It’s no secret that the judges and the producers have a somewhat inexplicable need to focus on Anya and grade her on a curve. When Tim rather sheepishly announced a second look with no explanation or further instructions (because usually there’s some sort of twist on the idea, instead of “Make another one.”), the thought did occur that whoever’s in love with her in the production office just couldn’t bear to see her with just a half-muslin look on the runway. In other words, the twist was practically tailor-made to dig Anya out of the hole she was in.

One compliment before we get back to complaining: Olivia Palermo was an astonishingly good judge with an understanding of fashion design that we wouldn’t have thought to attribute to her and a rather refined sense of how to give a critique. Her points were actually better than the ridiculousness that was spewing from the other judges, who spewed embarrassing “critiques” like, “I really like that print,” and “It’s not sexy.”

We joke about Anya being a manipulative beauty queen and we rail against the idea that the producers’ influence on the judges gets distressingly more and more obvious with each season, but in all fairness, we don’t think either had that much impact on her win (and the ongoing manner in which they make excuses for her). It’s simply this: people in fashion are naturally going to respond well to beautiful people. Kors, Klum and Garcia can’t help themselves; they’re always going to fall all over the pretty ones.

And in a “sell the winning garment” challenge, they’re always going to pick the one that’s easiest to manufacture and requires the least amount of cutting and pattern pieces.

Plus it helped that it was on trend.

Although that back doesn’t look so hot. Then again, 8 seasons of the judges railing against (and often auf’ing) designers for poor execution mysteriously vanishes when Anya fixes her cow eyes and dazzling smile on them.

Enh. It’s fine. We all know Viktor had the best looks by far last night but they were going to be too expensive to produce. Fine. Give it to the pretty girl. You can find the (remarkably unchanged) Piperlime version of this look here, along with the retail version of Bert’s look – and don’t even get us started on that whole thing. “Bert we’re going to sell yours too but you didn’t win.”

Heidi, in a show of support for downtrodden pretty girls everywhere, wore this look on her AOL page today. Man, do these judges have a hardon for her or what?



It’s all right. Credit where it’s due: this is pretty good for eleven bucks, although the fit on the pants and the execution of the top is pretty bad.

Say hello to one of the finalists, kittens. There’s not a chance in hell they’ll ever send her home unless she sets one of her models on fire. She’s beautiful and charming and she has a strong (if exceedingly narrow) point of view. And that’s fine. Honestly. But the way the judges fall all over her sometimes is ridiculous. Talk about over-praising.

Anthony had two major problems this week.

The first is that he clearly had no idea what seventies fashion was all about.

When he started talking about Woodstock and hippies we knew he was in big trouble. Although why he and Josh seemed so clueless makes no sense to us, since they were given HP dossiers on HP their HP computers HP.

The skirt is badly made and the silhouette had nothing of the ’70s about it.

The fabrics weren’t a bad choice, but they didn’t really go together and the whole look was drab and unflattering.

The second look was closer to the mark, but had its own issues. For one, it was too literal.

And that skirt wasn’t as full as it could have been. A model shouldn’t have trouble taking wide steps in a ’70s-esque maxi-skirt.

The other issue was that this looked thrown together. A very basic floor-length tunic with the only thing giving it any shape being that belt.

Like Anya’s win, we don’t like the decision here, but at least there’s some precedent for it: don’t ever bore the judges. There were worse pieces – FAR worse pieces – on that runway, but they weren’t boring in the judges’ eyes.

But we said he had two major problems last night. Here’s the second one: he’s not an oxygen-sucking narcissistic bitch. It’s Wendy Pepper over Austin Scarlett or Santino over Nick all over again. Nice, sweet contestants who make something boring are always going to get auf’d in favor of keeping the asshole who made something offensively bad. Such is the way of Project Runway.

Always, always remember, kittens: This isn’t fashion. This is a game show. It always has been.

[Photo Credit: Barbara Nitke/MyLifetime.com - Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

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    • Anonymous

      I may be the only one here, but I do not believe anything Anya says anymore. I think everything she does has been carefully calculated to win, and it’s working. She may be the best game-show contestant since that guy who memorized the Press Your Luck board. She planned everything out before she went on and I wonder what trick she’s going to pull next week. If I lost my money, I
      would lose my freaking mind, she shed a pretty little tear or two and she’s not that great an actress, because I didn’t believe it for a second. AND she was offered all kinds of different fabrics from the others, yet used muslin. Come on! She really played up the “Woe is me, I lost my money” bit and the judges fell hook, line and sinker. I wouldn’t be surprised if Anya scopes Mood out
      every time she’s there for fashionable and inexpensive fabric she can utilize for future challenges and future wool-over-eyes plans.

      Sorry to see AJ go, and he was the one to give her the $11 for that fabric (which I’m sure she pulled knowing it was cheap and she could get a lot out of it—it probably had a wider width too, which she admitted she was looking for in order to get the most of her money). Poor AJ—his outfit was awful, but I liked him.

      • Anonymous

        Good God, when they all came over to give her their remnants I thought we were watching the last scene of “It’s a Wonderful Life.”  Honestly, I felt like we were supposed to burst into tears over the heartwarming generosity of the townspeople.

        • scottyf

          Zuzu: Listen Daddy! My teacher says that every time a sewing machine starts, a Beauty Queen is getting a payoff!

          • Anonymous

            Perfect!

          • Now I am The Bee

            This is why we love YOU! 

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        BINGO. Love the reference to Press Your Luck. She is THAT GUY. I have said it before, but Anya is no dummy. She doesn’t mind pretending though.

        • Anonymous

          She’s a national beauty pageant winner. You don’t have to be a genius – in fact, that probably puts you at a disadvantage – but you do have to be shrewd, hard working, self-disciplined, manipulative and you get bonus points for strategic & tactical reasoning. (You can hire a lot of the strategic & tactical reasoning out to various coaches, etc. but it’s likely you have at least some good instincts in that direction.)

          And did I mention manipulative?

          • http://twitter.com/derelict6 Ben

            I am from Anya’s country and I will like to point out that she is not a beauty queen. Anya entered the Miss T&T pageant and she was chosen to represent Trinidad and Tobago at Miss Universe while another girl was chosen to represent us at Miss World. She didn’t move on in that competition and that was the end of her pageant career. Let us say no more on the topic please. 

            • Anonymous

              But if she won a pageant, and wore a crown, I think that makes her a beauty queen… doesn’t it?

            • http://twitter.com/derelict6 Ben

              Sorta, but I gather that when people refer to her as a beauty queen they are making it out to be a whole lot more that what it really is. She entered one pageant and won, she entered Miss Universe and didn’t. Pageantry isn’t her life and career, she just took part on a whim. I think people may be misjudging her based on her history in beauty pageants, that’s all.

            • Anonymous

               Thanks for your info, I am thinking of her as I would someone who won a national pagaent in the U.S., where it’s a small industry & you just can’t be competitive at that level without experience at lower level pageants. (Similar to Olympic competition – it takes professionally coached training to perform well enough to make the national team.)

              You’d certainly know better than I if the system is different in Trinidad & Tobago.

            • http://twitter.com/derelict6 Ben

              It is much different. Usually when we are picking girls to go the Miss World and Miss Universe, they normally just hold a series of auditions and select a few girls who participate in the Miss T&T pageant. From that night they pick someone to go to the global pageant. These girls often do well and we have had wins in both Miss World and Miss Universe. But they are just regular people who train very hard to compete with other girls who as you say have alot more experience.

          • Anonymous

            seriously? Come on. I really and truly do NOT get the Anya hate. Not one  bit.

            • Anonymous

              Huh. I’m not expressing myself well or I am waay nastier than you when I reach the “hate” threshold. I admire her work ethic & smarts, and I think she makes nice-looking clothes that often are less interesting, less well made and/or less complicated to make than one might imagine given the praise they garner at judging.

              True, I think she’s manipulative, which many, even most of us are at times, (could be said about lots of PR contestants over the seasons, but she’s so successful with it!) but I would have to be able to say lots worse about her to raise it to the level of hate.

            • Anonymous

              You mean like Viktor the Grey? Bleh – he’s a mean little excuse for a human being who isn’t even funny to nerds, and his design sense begins and ends at Over-Tailored and Under-Colored.

              I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – a Viktor/Josh M mash-up would lead to either a great designer…or a DeVito-in-TWINS level disaster.

            • Anonymous

              I don’t get the Anya Hate either, to be honest, ccm. I like her work, mainly, though I can see her point of view is limited to what looks great on sunny beaches and tony resorts.

              She wouldn’t be my first choice for a red carpet look – but if the wife and I were going on a Caribbean vacation, absolutely.

      • Anonymous

        Wish I could read your comments Tignor but all the stupid discus or who ever puts the twitter, facebook etc ads are covering it up. Maybe later. Ssure wish the could figure out this message board by this time.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          What browser are you using? I downloaded Google Chrome when TLo launched this site and it’s been working great.

          • Anonymous

            I use Google Chrome. It’s when the comments get to the bottom of the page and run into the ads. No prob, I can usually see them later.

            • Anonymous

              Firefox + AdBlock = I haven’t seen an advertisement on the internet in years.

            • Anonymous

              Happens on my Google Chrome, too. :-(

            • Andrew Fox

              Does it have to do with screen resolution?  I am using Google Chrome with a wide screen computer and high resolution, and the adds don’t get anywhere near the comments usually.

            • Anonymous

              It’s working fine right now (same laptop as always), so who knows.

        • Anonymous

          Ugh, I have the same problem. Same thing happens over the new comment area sometimes too, so I can’t type anything there. I would like to try that Google Chrome, but here at work, you have to be an administrator to download anything. Bastards!   

          • vmcdanie

            FWIW, I don’t have problems with Firefox. Although that doesn’t fix your problem Lulu.

          • Anonymous

            Try shrinking the web page (Cntrl -) and then expanding it again (Cntrl +). That usually cleans up the ‘running over onto the ads’ problem for me.

            • Anonymous

              It worked! Thanks so much!!

        • Anonymous

          I had the same problem with I used Internet Explorer and it drove me nuts.  When I started using Firefox the problem went away and the pages loaded much faster.

          • Anonymous

            In IE, I always get the footer (copyright/follow us/archive) up in the middle of the page of comments, but I found if I select all the stuff in my way with the mouse, the accelerator buttom appears next to it, then when I hover over that, it jumps down to the bottom of the page where it should be.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, I use Firefox at home and I’ve never had a problem.
            Honestly, I’m just grateful that MIS hasn’t blocked me from coming here at work. This is where I come for a laugh when I need a break from the mayhem.

        • Anonymous

          So weird. I never have this problem. Sorry  :

      • Anonymous

        I never believed Anya from the start. I think she went to great lengths to make all of this happen. Sewing for 4 months? Yes, with intense training. I think she set her sights on winning this competition and found people to coach her through the process to do it, right down to manipulating the camera, contestants, and judges. Anyone who has watched all of the previous seasons knows how the show works and what the judges/producers respond to. She obviously has representation from her beauty queen days, now she wants to make a name for herself. I don’t doubt that the entire machine is in place  to make it all happen. I also don’t think she lost her money. I think it was a producer driven plot twist that she was in on. With all of the cameras following her around Mood, couldn’t they just rewind the tape and see where she dropped it? Please. It’s not like we don’t know the cameras are there. I think she is a manipulative phony. She WILL win the whole thing. Make no mistake about that. Pretty, rich, exotic beauty queen couldn’t win Miss Universe, so she went on to win a fashion design contest and show a clothing line at NY Fashion Week. She will be a Big Star in her homeland. It makes me sad to see Anthony go though. He seemed like a genuinely nice person who has a lot of talent that just needs to be honed and directed a bit more. Outside of waiting to see how much longer Kimberly stays in the competition, I couldn’t care less who wins or what happens. None of them are going to be the “Next Great Designer” anyway. Every single one of them, even Anya, who is Uli 2.0 as far as designs go, is going to go back home to become a minor local celebrity in their hometowns and that’s fine.

        • Anonymous

          I agree with the gist of what you said EXCEPT for Uli 2.0. I think Uli chose her style of garments because that was the style she chose. Anya chooses her style of garments because she isn’t good enough to make anything structured under a time limit.

        • Anonymous

          Oh and by the way I have heard from another (anonymous) PR9 designer that all the clothes Anya auditioned with were NOT in fact sewn by her; they were sewn by a professional/factory in the Caribbean.   Agreed– she will win the whole thing.  Because she’s pretty, has a “story”, and has a sex tape.

        • Anonymous

          wow. Man that Anya gonna get an OSCAR for THAT performance. Do you think she got Meryl Streep herself to come coach her how to lose it when she realized she lost the money  (wink)

          • Isadora Paiva

            Seriously, are we the only sane ones here? Talk about conspiracy theory… sure, she might be a bit manipulative, but no more than the average (smart) reality TV contestant. 

            I’m sure we can all agree that the producers are really manipulative and they have a soft spot for her (same as the judges, who always seem to grade her on a curve), but that just makes all this hate for Anya a bit misdirected. It’s not really her fault they aren’t doing their jobs properly.

            • Anonymous

              She really seems like a pretty upright gal to me. They all loved that Anthony but if you watch any of the extended videos on Lifetime turns out hes a little manipulator…discussing private conversations he had with Viktor with JOSHUA of all people…and saying “I had to help Anya out but of course if it was BERT he could just make due with his bad situation (I paraphrase). I think Viktor and Anya are reasonable folks. Viktor seems to be plenty cool enough to say to peoples face what he is thinking and Anya just seems like a nice gal to me. Even Bert who clearly has some some social issues…I thought he was a jerk but ya know I am a non traditional (old man) student at a university and I feel pretty lonely now and then – I reach out instead of lash out but its understandable that he had his defenses up at first. I think out of the lot of them Anya seems like the nicest and most genuine for real. I don’t get it at all unless people are just beong catty against her looks or something.

        • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

          My theory is that a PR production intern stole the envelope, under orders.  

          Why, why, why couldn’t she just carry a fricking purse like a normal woman with money?

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            ” My theory is that a PR production intern stole the envelope, under orders.”

            Or a crew member could have seen her drop it, picked it up, and kept it to see what would happen. I wouldn’t have any trouble believing that.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe Anya hid her money under a bolt of fabric and will magically produce it when she needs a little extra cash for another challenge!

        • Anonymous

          or maybe she pushed it INTO her bra for the next one, knowing no one would dare ask to look.

      • Anonymous

        I was laughing the whole time, knowing there was no way she would use any of those donated fabrics because then she couldn’t say she made the outfit for “eleven dollars AND fifty cents.”

      • Anonymous

        I was laughing the whole time, knowing there was no way she would use any of those donated fabrics because then she couldn’t say she made the outfit for “eleven dollars AND fifty cents.”

        • Marie Drucker

          Wasn’t it odd that Laura had so much extra fabric? She said in Mood that she used up all her money… and she had yards of white fabric that she must have bought but then didn’t use. I’m a curious kitten… do they get to keep the fabric they don’t use? Anya could have used the white fabric — and dyed it — instead of the muslin (sp?).

          I have lots of other questions…
          1. What did Bert mean by the balcony comment?
          2. Did Josh tell his model NOT to turn around when Michael Kors asked her to?
          3. Why does Anya spend so much time talking? Are other people sewing for her? Are the cameras not catching that? 

          These don’t need answers. I just am curious and I do like to know how the sausage is made.

          • Anonymous

            Oh sweet bitter kitten, Anya really, really, really wanted to be able to say her outfit only cost $11 AND 50 cents. She would not have gotten the same “WOW” factor from judges saying she used donated fabric.

            As to your other questions:
            1. Bert was getting busy in the balcony having sexual relations with someone. I loved that sneaky little smile he flashed after he said that!
            2. I can only imagine that the butt on those HOR-REN-DOUS pants was so bad that Josh did not want anyone getting a closer look at it.
            3. She doesn’t make sleeves (I think she only made 3 sleeves thus far on the whole show) and all her bottoms tend to be flowy so she doesn’t really need to spend that much time sewing. The band challenge was the most complicated sewing she probably had to do thus far.

            I like to answer questions.

            • Marie Drucker

              You’re a sweetie pie.

            • Anonymous

              3. So true!  Though I don’t understand why she’s always sewing down to the very last second before the runway show, especially since all she ever does is long flowy things that have a maximum of like 3 seams.

            • Anonymous

              My assumption is that she’s constantly re-doing things. Which would make sense if one is not en experienced or strong seamstress.

            • margaret meyers

              But you saw how she was “finishing” the top edge of her paper bag pants:  she was simpling trimming the top edge with a pair of scissors.  That is not sewing.

            • Anonymous

              No, it’s not, but I don’t think that negates my previous comment. My assumption/theory is that her inexperience leads to her doing things over and over again, sewing and otherwise. If she isn’t good (or at least quick) at pattern-making, or cutting, or draping, then it’s probably going to leave her less time for the final step, sewing. I referenced sewing specifically because that’s what Kimbolina mentioned in the post to which I was responding.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              That’s what I think. And I assume she needs more time to sew in the first place. Then she has to go back and clean up any mistakes she’s made. So it makes total sense that she was working until the last minute.

            • margaret meyers

              And meanwhile Viktor is turning out 4 pieces full of details and ell-matched seams,and making clutches and bowties, and we never see him hurrying.

            • Anonymous

              I think people mistake Anya’s personal style, which does tend towards long flowing garments, for her Project Runway  designs, which so far have been:-
              1. Wide legged pants and racer back top
              2. Mini skirt and plaited rope halter
              3. Combo with Olivier (draped skirt)
              5. Fitted jumpsuit for Nina
              6. Sleek knit maxi dress
              7. Avant garde dress with fitted top, pleated shaped overskirt and shorts
              8. Fitted, princess seamed cocktail dress
              9. Fitted, one shouldered kimono dress with an asymmetrical hem
              10. Denim pants and baaaaaaaaaaaaad dashiki!
              11. Pintucked top with faux wrap front and slit back and paperbag waisted pants AND jumpsuit  
                    with plunging waist, sheer back panels and palazzo styled pants.

              BUT I GUESS IT’ S EASIER TO JUST REPEAT EVERYONE ELSE”S DUMB COMMENTS AND IGNORE THIS REALITY!

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            1.  It’s a reference to the porn theaters of 70′s. 

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WOM6YR4RJ53AF77MUUZ62J33WY Anonymous

              Ah, he was talking about Studio 54 moments before the comment, and since the balcony there was notorius for being the “orgy zone,” I think that’s what he was referrencing.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Oh see I missed that part:)  That was when one of the babies was hollering in my ear. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/phyllis.craine Phyllis Craine

        You might be right….for all we know “I’ve been sewing for only 4 months” may not even be the truth

        • Anonymous

          Oh, I believe that completely. She *may* have been taught to sew a straight seam or to make a hem & replace a button growing up, but I totally believe she had no use for sewing skills till she sets her sights on this show & those four months were an intensive, many-hours-a-day,  coached effort to bring her up to speed for this show. 

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Which isn’t that unbelievable.  Most women — particularly not from American urban areas — do at least learn to fix a hem or reattach a button.  In fact, I can give you at least 5 ways to fix a hem on the fly in an emergency.  I also sew very strangely for the same reason (I use tape on MOST fabrics rather than pins — you can sew right through it and you never snap a needle on it:)  My mother believed in that sort of thing, and she HATED to sew. 

            If you get the principles instinctively, many things in sewing aren’t hard to learn — and you can conceivably get through the show without ever doing the really tough stuff that takes a TON of practice to master.  (I still hate doing a ton of pleating, for instance.  I’m constantly having to redo them.  I know, that’s weird:)

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        I absolutely concur with everything you have written here.  I actively despise Anya at this point and I don’t even know her personally!

      • http://twitter.com/xlylylx ly ly

        I seriously don’t get all the hate on her.  Yes, she is extremely overrated and didn’t deserve to win all of those challenges but I don’t see how that makes her manipulative and cunning .  And if she did “planned everything out” and “tricked” all the producers and judges (which is all just speculation at the moment), I don’t see anything wrong with that if she’s not sabotaging anyone in the process

        • Anonymous

          Ok, here’s my thing. I think she’s beautiful and talented and smart, I do. I think she’s really thought this out, and as I said in my OP, the best game show contestant in a long time. Does that make her a great sewer? No. Doesn’t even make her a great designer. Do I think she can sucessfully create a line if she has advisors and sewers working for her? HELL yes. She’s a very good businesswoman and has a charisma that is unrivaled. But, as for her own designs as they are now, no. They are all very similar and she keeps winning over and over for flowy maxis with the same top that has no sleeves. This is not design to me, and not worthy of someone winning the competition. Also, my OP stated what I believe is true: She has calculated this game to the last detail and yes, I do believe she is very smart about how to win it. Which I believe is unfair to those others (Viktor, Kimberley, Burt) who have a unique sense of style, direction, and design. I also believe if someone else had been putting out the same clothes week after week, the judges would have aufed them by now. She’s playing the game and playing it well, but doesn’t deserve all the praise she’s getting and I’m actually a bit mad that she’s essentially taking it away from others who are designing, which IMO is sabotage. I do not hate her, I just don’t think she deserves all this attention based on the products she is putting out and I do believe she’s very good at playing this game.

          • jeneria

            Exactly.  She’s an excellent game show contestant but not an excellent designer as defined by the parameters of the show.

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            I think, though, that her success on the show has to be placed at the feet of the judges/possibly the producers. They’re the ones who are falling for it. I don’t see how she’s actively taking anything away from the other designers. The judges are doing that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=506473106 Mori Clark

      currently watching last night’s ep (since i dont have cable anymore, cry…). as soon as it became clear that anya was NOT going to find her money, i knew she was going to win. :| sad to see anthony ryan go, was just thinking that he was really one of the only people i really liked this season, personality-wise. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=506473106 Mori Clark

        just got to the second garment announcement. they weren’t even trying to hide that they were doing it for anya’s sake, were they? literally just ‘oh hi, make another outfit with fifty bucks, okay bye.’ 

        is tim still doing his vlog somewhere or did he get shut down permanently last season? his disdain is becoming quite obvious. 

        • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

          So glad you said that about Tim.  Its becoming glaringly clear that he feels little for any of the work being done in the workroom.  In fact he probably would have really come down hard on any of his Parson’s students if they had given him work like this.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

          “is tim still doing his vlog somewhere or did he get shut down permanently last season? his disdain is becoming quite obvious.”

          Agreed. I wish we had more of Tim’s perspective. He’s barely shown in the workroom anymore. They more of him to get back some of the humanity the show has lost. On that note, did anyone notice how much longer the goodbyes were at the end than last week? Anthony Ryan gets 2 hugs from Tim, who seems to genuinely care that a nice guy is going home. Contrast that with last week and the hasty ‘good-bye and good luck’ to Olivier and you can tell Tim thinks that it was the wrong decision.

          • Anonymous

            That Olivier going home was the wrong decision? Or Anthony? I had the feeling for weeks that Tim didn’t care for Pweious Owiver, so I took the short “clean up your workspace” as a personal Tim thing.

            • Anonymous

              No, I think she means that Tim thought Anthony Ryan’s Aufing was the wrong decision, as evidenced by the huge contrast in his goodbyes.

            • Anonymous

              Yeah, Tim looked close to tears.  Man, I miss Tim’s take, vlog or whatever.  I expect BM clamped down on him after Tim revealed the big judging split over Gretchen and Mondo.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Do you mean the split during the finale judging? They shut him down before that. He made some comments in his weekly video that inadvertently insulted some of the production crew. The next day he posted a video apologizing for what he said (and I believed him when he said he was mortified for having hurt the feelings of any of the crew members). That was the last video he posted. He said it was his decision, but I am convinced TPTB told him he couldn’t do any more videos.

              I can’t remember what he said or what he was talking about, but I do remember that he was really harsh.

            • Anonymous

              Oh man, I’d forgotten about that.  That’s right.  Can’t even remember the challenge.  He spilled the Mondo/Gretchen judging story at an event.

              BM is stupid on a deep level.  One of the things that made PR different and a bit more credible was Tim’s willingness to talk about what was going on and why things happened.  I think BM is so caught up in shenanigans that they won’t let the real tensions build and play out.  

              So, what if Anya’s money *did* drop out, but then the production crew saw it and nabbed it so she wouldn’t be able to find it?  They then wouldn’t have to rely on Anya’s “acting”, but they’d be guaranteed a bunch of drama.  The second challenge is then thrown in as a sop.

            • Anonymous

              I think it was over the Jackie O challenge.  The directions that the designers got and the criteria that the judges received for judging were not the same.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Yeah, and the big thing was he named specific production assistants who gave him the info for the designers, who were apparently very hurt by it.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Not necessarily — sometimes even when Tim agrees with the decision, he still has a very emotional send-off because he really likes the designer personally.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Not necessarily — sometimes even when Tim agrees with the decision, he still has a very emotional send-off because he really likes the designer personally.

          • Anonymous

            I was LMAO last week, for Tim that goodbye to Olivier was practically a “See ya! And don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!” He was really done with that boy who could not fit anything other than the dressmakers form. I did not care for Anthony Ryan or his clothes, but I did think it was really sweet that Tim gave him such a caring goodbye.

            • Anonymous

              Tim was absolutely exasperated with Olive!  They were always sure not to cut away before showing Tim sighing and throwing his hands up after interacting with Olive, at least three times I think.  It may end up being my favorite memory of this season.

          • Anonymous

            I suspect now that Tim is getting producer credit, he has to muzzle himself.

            • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

              he got into a little trouble last season with those so maybe he chose not to or was told not to 

        • Anonymous

          I don’t understand why they did not replace her money, and was really surprised when Tim told her she was SOL on that score.  Instead, she got $11.50, and a big sympathy bump.  For my part, I liked Bert’s outfits for the win, minus the slutty shorts.  

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Because the rule is that the designers are responsible for handling their own budget.  I wonder if there’s a rule against carrying a purse or wallet to Mood — and what the response would have been if she had asked if she could spend $100 of her own money in its place?

            • Anonymous

              I think it’s weird that they give them cash to carry around, and don’t just have a tab – must be all for the sake of drama.  I’m sure this is coming up in the 700 comments or was discussed in the Lounge i missed, but SOMEBODY has that envelope! 

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              If it fell in between bolts of fabric, it could have happened fairly easily.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              I was wondering why Anya didn’t have handbag, and was also thinking that there might be a rule against it (which seems really stupid, but I can see them making it a rule anyway), so I was watching everyone very closely. I’m almost certain I saw Laura carrying a handbag.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Well, they maybe just aren’t to carry personal possession like that around with them any time during production.  (Though there are an awfully lot of female designers — what if one of them has a period and needs to carry the associated items with them everywhere?  Some women do) 

        • Melanie S.

          I’m wondering if it was less “save anya” and more “oh crap piperlime won’t produce any of these because they’re too complicated.”  Or some tasty combination of the two!

          • Anonymous

            I felt better about Viktor getting shafted again after I read that wisdom in TLo’s post, I’d already forgotten that from the New Balance challenge. 

      • Kristen Williamson

        I loved Anthony Ryan, but any skirt that looks like a period exploded all over it is not going to be appealing to most women. Jus saiyan.

    • Anonymous

      everything you say has merit.  But the formula for the show has become boring to watch.  It should still be about talent, taste, and beautiful clothes.  Not bitchy personalities.  

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=739505579 Amanda Aziyade

        Agree completely. In the past, the “characters” have at least been amusing: Jay and Austin pretending to be pageant queens; Santino’s “what happened to Andre” and the runway walk-off; “Where the hell is my chiffon?;” Sissybear’s quips. Sigh.

        What happened to the actual TALENT that used to be represented by the actors/contestants?  I’m with so many of you in thinking that even with my grade-school sewing skills, I could create a bitchy personality and win this stupid competition without any abilities whatsoever.

        The show’s scripting runs like an old MIlls and Boon gothic romance novel. Yawn. Seriously, T and Lo’s comments are the most amusing and interesting part of the whole experience. I’ve heard from so many former fans that the only reason they even bother watching the show is to put the Project Rungay posts into context. I know I look forward to this blog a HECK of a lot more than I look forward to the actual 90 minutes of boring footage on Thursdays. So thank you for salvaging what you can of what was once a pretty cool idea.

        • Basil Von Broccoli

          I don’t even watch the show anymore. Part of this is that I don’t have cable – but I didn’t for season 3 either, and I still found ways to watch it, because I was obsessed. Now I’m just vaguely interested.

        • Anonymous

          Well, Sissybear’s show will be starting soon on Bravo, and I can’t wait.

          • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

            Starts Tuesday!  Woo hoo!

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              AWESOME. We cancelled cable a long time ago, but for *some reason* Bravo still works. It’s the only cable channel that does. And only in the living room TV. I will make an attempt to catch that after the kids go to bed!

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              It’s on at 10PM (Eastern time). It’s only a half hour (boooo!), but a half hour of Sissybear is better than none at all.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t even watch the show, I just read TLo’s posts. I get to see the fashion (and what not to do) without having to sit through the shitty product placement. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NCE7HCMDQDBIQ2ZVGSZPRYSPYA L

            Good call. I’ve been tivoing it and fast forwarding through anything in the apartments or the hair and makeup room. And most of the confessionals. And the loooooooong rules explanation and judge intro before the runway. I can get through an episode in about 30-35 minutes. Maybe that’s more time than the show is worth anymore.

        • Anonymous

          Agreed!!  The great thing about the Magical Elves is that they let the drama play out on its own, and work with the personalities they have, rather than manufacture drama with insane deadlines and other parlor tricks.  Or at least, as TLo say, they “hide the seams” better.  Their Top Chef shows have the same format almost every week (30 min challenge at the top of the show, 2 day elimination challenge) but the drama remains!
           

      • Anonymous

        I couldn’t agree more.  Thank God for you guys.  I came to a place two weeks ago where I am just over it.  The producers have totally ruined what was good about this show.  Yes, it’s always been a game show, but as Heidi said a few weeks ago “In fashion, one day you’re in and the next you’re out.”  I can remember one season when if a designer won the challenge one week you could just about bet they would be out the next.  I too am to the point where I don’t really care who wins, but I’m hoping Victor does.  I think he is the most talented of the remaining, and yes, he should have won last night – it was so obvious!

        • http://profiles.google.com/amy.s.hughes Amy Hughes

          The producers and Lifetime.  I contrast this with Top Chef which still has interesting challenges and contestants I care about, even after running for so long.  PR is just so blah now.  I’m sort of eager for the All Stars show because at least I’ll have a vested interest in some of the contestants.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1314915676 Harvard Bridges

      I know this is a game show, but come on! The way they praise Anya to high heavens is sickening me.

      And the judging this week had crack written all over it, that’s for sure. Actually, the guest judge was spot-on.

    • Anonymous

      My husband thought they threw in the second $50 challenge for Anya’s sake. I thought it was because they were all making multi-piece looks, and Piperlime wanted a single piece to reproduce. I do agree that Anya was tagged as a finalist from day one. That much is obvious. When she lost her money, I told my husband she was going to win…as you said, it is THAT OBVIOUS.

      Still, Victor was robbed. Josh should have gone home, but Anthony Ryan was out of his depth.

      I’m not staying up late to watch this anymore…until the finale…maybe. I’ll just watch on Tivo when folding laundry or something. This is a horrible season. Truly.

      • Anonymous

        You make a good point: Piperlime wanted a single piece. Though I had the same thought as your husband & TLo, I think you might be right. It certainly didn’t feel like it was planned from the get go.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I assumed that was why the 70s brief, too.  It’s on trend and fits well with the one piece thing.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with you, Anathema. I really think Piperlime was seeing what the designers were coming up with and realized NONE of the looks were things they would be able to cheaply and easily reproduce. It seems to me that they came up with the idea last minute not to “save Anya”, but to save the end result for themselves. They needed something to sell, and they were not getting any viable choices. Note that both of the designs that are to be sold online were from the second challenge.

        • Anonymous

          And most of the second looks were better than the first looks! I think that shows how much better people do when they have to go from their gut and don’t over think things.

        • Anonymous

          I completely agree that I think the second look had less to do with helping out Anya and more to do with allowing Piperlime to cheaply reproduce the look.
           
          I also don’t get why there is so much Anya rage on this site. The general public, as opposed to TLo readers, seem to overwhelmingly prefer Anya to anyone else on the show. I personally think she by far has the best style on the show. I don’t understand why people thought Victor was the clear winner. I couldn’t stand his second look. All the women I know who watch this show would pick almost any of Anya’s designs over Victor’s to wear. I’m not going to argue that this season is anywhere close to the fabulous first several seasons, but I don’t think it is as horrible or predictable as the people commenting here seem to think. Even in the first season, it was obvious that Wendy Pepper was going to make it to the final runway show based on personality and not talent. Why people think the show is going to change things up at this point I don’t know.
           

          • http://profiles.google.com/denise.alden Denise Alden

            We are not the general public:  we are bitter kittens, precious unborn fawns and the commentariat.  Even if she “has the best style on the show,” (which is not the case) that’s not what this contest is about.  I would also argue that it wasn’t obvious that Wendy Pepper was going to the finals; a lot of us were shocked when Austin got the auf.  Sadly, this season is as horrible and predictable as most of us think.

            • Anonymous

              I just watched Season 1 for the hundredth time and you’re right.  Austin should have been the third finalist but caught up in the Nancy O’Dell Grammy challenge with a flowy gown that she would never wear to the Grammy’s.  I don’t think the producers saw that coming at all.  

              I haven’t watched in weeks now; just reading the blog.  When I looked at the runway shows on TLo, it was obvious to me that Victor should be the winner.  And I wasn’t blown away by his collection by any means.  Not compared to previous seasons.  So if Anya wins the whole enchilada, there’s going to be serious hell to pay.  Riots in the streets, etc., etc.

          • Anonymous

            Just because Anya is ahead of the other designers in terms of the numbers of Twits who have “voted” for her by Twittering her praises for the Lifetime contest doesn’t mean “the general public… overwhelmingly prefer Anya”.
            1. I’d be happy to vote for Fan Favorite if I didn’t have to twitter it. I don’t think i’m alone in that, and
            2. Who amongst all of the original 20 designers do you think would be most likely to have a managerial team in place from prior to Day 1 to organize and promote their valuable property? Perhaps the Beauty Queen? I’d be willing to bet on those Twitter ballot boxes being stuffed on behalf of Anya.

            I don’t hate Anya but if this is a game (and it is) I’d like to see a level playing field

            • http://twitter.com/oekmama Melanie Dunn-Fiedler

              It isn’t a level playing field, she’s severely disadvantaged, so she’s using other weapons to her disposal.
              That’s ok, coz it is a competition and she’s not being a drama queen about it. It’s so subtle that you almost miss it.
              Do you notice that every(?) week, she has a sort of ‘war council’ to talk down someone else’s look. Could this be just in case the judges ask, who the designers think shouldn’t be there?
              Or how about how she had Anthony Ryan thinking that she would wear his looks? Or the sudden dropping of the girls-stick-together pact? Did I fall asleep and dream that?

              I can’t help but like her, coz she’s pretty and comes from the Caribbean like me, and has great style. But seriously, I don’t think she expects to win. I think she just hopes to show at Bryant Park. Which we now know that she achieved (either as decoy or finalist).

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I think she wanted a way to get a foot in the door without having to dedicate years to design school.  Which isn’t a bad plan, honestly.  Depending on how she does, and how she’d like her career to go, this could work very well for her.

            • Anonymous

              1. Yes, THAT.
              2. THAT, too.

              and (my) 3. A lot of people here know sewing and design, and, while she may be able to pull the rayon over others’ eyes, her design limitations and construction flaws are painfully apparent to the writers and followers of this blog.

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              AMEN.
              1. I want nothing to do with ‘der Tvitter’.
              2. Yes. And to expand on that– she was miles ahead before the show even aired. So yes, there is a certain amount of calculation and marketing involved.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            ITA.  I liked Victor’s looks, but to call them ’70s inspired is a stretch. What was all that ’70s about his looks?  ‘Cause a safari style blazer does not immediately bring to mind 70s for most people, since “safari” looks come in and out every decade. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NCE7HCMDQDBIQ2ZVGSZPRYSPYA L

            What I don’t get is why anyone would like her in the first place.

        • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

          I think that is a good point and that there might be a possibility of that being true but I also think that if Piperlime wasn’t all the focused on a single piece, the producers STILL would have put in the extra garment twist to save Anya.  She is obviously being propped up all along the way.  The producers are idiots if they actually believe we can’t see how manipulative the show is at this point.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            To me all that says is that the producers have a heart.  I don’t care when someone gets auf’ed, but I don’t want to see someone go home over this — which had nothing to do with taste, construction or design skills, but simply an unfortunate accident.

          • http://twitter.com/OperaSickness Opera Sickness

            But 1) Anya isn’t that interesting. Why would they go through all that trouble to keep her in. She’s not particularly boring, but, this episodes proceedings excluded, she doesn’t pump up the drama like Josh or even Burt in the beginning.  She’s a fan favorite among the general populace, but there was no way the producers could have anticipated that while they were filming. And 2) her first piece wasn’t that bad. I mean, on its strengths alone she should have been in the bottom and all, but it wasn’t so terrible that the producers couldn’t have gotten away with keeping her in and aufing someone else. 

            If the judges have a bias towards her because she’s charming… well that will serve her well in the actual industry.  The best PR that Project Runway has ever had is Christian Siriano, who, while very talented, is largely successful because of his talent in marketing himself.  Comparte to Jay McCarrol who, in spite of being one of, if not the, most talented designer on the show hasn’t made any waves outside fans of the show. We’re all seeing it as: no one will take this show seriously if they are rewarding sub-par design, but the producers and judges probably see it as: no one will take this show seriously if our winners fail to be successful in the fashion industry. It might not be what you or I would pick, but its not unreasonable for the judges to consider the potential to market ones self as an important component for success as a runway designer.  If we accept that that is a component of the judging, her decision to refuse the extra fabric wasn’t manipulative, it was merely shrewd.

            • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

              I absolutely agree that she is not that interesting.  I’m only aware of her when the scenes are obviously trying to put her in the spotlight or when she’s exerting her “charm” on the judges or for the camera.  I hate to say it but the general populace as a whole gets sucked into believing a lot of things without really paying that close attention so I don’t think they are a good example in Anya’s defense.

               For this challenge, her stuff was passable, that’s it.  There have been other challenges however where I firmly believed she should have been auf’d – most specifically the Sheepdogs challenge where the pants were split up the backside and the rest of the sewing (see the screencap closeups posted by TLO previously) was atrocious and in which the final product was as if not more ugly than most of the stuff in that competition.  I think the actual design and style of many of her pieces  are either the same type of patterned, flowy dress or are so substandard as to be laughable.  This is a design competition too, not just “I have a good eye for patterns,  can see what the trends are and mimic them,  and I can be really charming to coast by to the end.”  Mondo had not only a great eye for patterns but he could mix them skillfully as well.  And he was skilled in construction.  Anya’s abilities with patterns is very minimal in comparison so her eye is not that great, in my opinion.

              I don’t deny that she is being shrewd and I cannot fault her for that.  I also agree that being able to market yourself so seamlessly and skillfully (and shrewdly) is a huge asset in the industry.  However the talent is just not there.  She’s not that good and definitely not as good as she herself thinks or the judges seem to think.  They are awarding her for her possible eventual marketability.  To put her and Christian Siriano in the same sentence is a travesty (heh)!  He has an excess of talent  and skill behind him.  Anya, in my opinion, does not.

            • http://twitter.com/OperaSickness Opera Sickness

              To clarify, I wasn’t citing popularity to defend her skill, I was merely attempting to preempt any argument that her popularity is why the producers would bend over backwards to keep her on the show by pointing out that, because she’s pretty low key in the personality department, the producers couldn’t have anticipated that.

              I’m not attempting defend her skill as a designer so much as argue against the notion that she’s only still around because of producer manipulation. 

              Though you weren’t arguing this (at least I didn’t notice you arguing this), I find the idea that she pretended to loose her money in order to manipulate the proceedings sort of absurd. The challenge was basically to produce a simple to make, seventies flavored garment, which is right up her ally as a designer.  She didn’t need to throw a hail mary, so why would she?  Someone up thread was saying that its clear she was faking it because she wasn’t as upset as a ‘normal’ person would be.  Freaking out would be just as out of the left field for her as fabricating a crisis.  So far it seems as if she’s been making a point to behave pretty professionally whenever she is on camera, that’s why she’s so dull in spite of being the first contestant on PR with a sex tape, and both actions would be out of line with that.

              I don’t think Anya is necessarily playing to win the competition.  I think she’s hoping that her stint on PR will qualify to potential employers and investors as equivalent to the more formal educational background that her competitors will have, and if she takes the entire competition, that’s just a bonus.  Presenting herself whenever she’s on camera as someone who learns quickly, isn’t afraid to ask for help when necessary, responds well to criticism, and doesn’t crumble under pressure is like a publicized and taped character reference.  Everyone else is throwing the manipulative beauty queen stereotypes at her, well I’m gonna throw the ambitious, practical, and hardworking foreigner stereotype at her.

              And I think I have now officially added Anya to my list of people who, through a compulsion to defend them on an internet message board because it seemed that people were ganging up on them, I have gone from having a somewhat negative opinion of them to finding them strangely endearing.  For the record, this list now consists of Kim K, Kid Rock, and Anya.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Or maybe she just didn’t like the extra fabrics.  A lot of the fabric was prints, which are very specific to taste.  As for dying the white from Laura, maybe it was a fabric that wouldn’t dye well — there are a lot of them.

      • margaret meyers

        yes

    • scottyf

      T&Lo said…
      “There’s not a chance in hell they’ll ever send her home unless she sets one of her models on fire.”

      I’m not even sure THAT would do it. Michael would praise her for her brilliant use of kerosene, and Nina would love her for the flame retardant accessories.

      • Anonymous

        “Nina would love her for the flame retardant accessories”
        And for the fabulous print made by the flames singeing the fabric.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve already “liked” this comment but that’s not enough.  There should be a “REALLY, REALLY like” option.  Thanks, Scotty!

        Oh, and TLo, your last line: This isn’t fashion.  This is a game show.    This line should appear onscreen before and after every episode.  (crediting you guys, of course)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK26PHQATX3VMJXUJDYLOC24GE K

        And the kittens would all say “She copied Cinna!”

        • http://www.facebook.com/mary.nease Mary Nease

          You- whoever you are, I love you.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK26PHQATX3VMJXUJDYLOC24GE K

            I’m just a proud Kitten in the midwest, Mom to a tween who LOVES The Hunger Games, and hopelessly unfashionable.

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK26PHQATX3VMJXUJDYLOC24GE K

              Oh, and because of my daughter, also a fan of The Hunger Games.

        • Anonymous

          Yes!  I wonder how that is going to look when the movie comes out…

        • Anonymous

          Oh, now THAT would be a great PR ep.  I might even start watching again.  Cinna!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Looking at the “necklines” on Anya’s pieces, I have to wonder whether she’ll be hearing from Nancy Grace anytime soon.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AIQJKUWFMABQ4O7A7J5TLMN6OU Ella B.

        LOL!  Hilarous.  I want Nancy Grace as a guest judge!  (Why not?  The show has reached this level of absurdity.)

    • Anonymous

      Yes I surprised by Anya’s win but as you say Viktor’s was too expensive to reproduce. If it was just the skirt and snakeskin tshirt he probably would have won.

      I will give Anya credit for something. Whether she’s player or not, she does have some design chops and she doesn’t act like she’s the next big thing with what she makes on the show. She had some good ideas with that muslim top and the pants but she clearly stated she wasn’t happy with the way it came out. She is not stupid enough to pass off her sewing as anything awe inspiring.

      If she is manuvering and playing every card to her advantage, so what? It’s a contest and this is a tough business. I completely agree the judges are giving her way too much love though. She does have shortcomings

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        There is nothing wrong with her playing the game. She is great at it, good for her for figuring out what works. The judges wetting themselves over her (and often unconvincingly) is the problem.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Yep. It’s not Anya’s fault that the judges, and presumably the producers, are falling all over themselves and each other to show who loves Anya best. Like Charles Bukowski and Oprah (and anyone else with a huge following), she’s not responsible for the behavior of her crazier fans.

          However, up until this episode I’ve stayed neutral on Anya. But she did one hell of a job rationalizing why she didn’t have to honor the pact she made with Laura and Kimberly. If she doesn’t want to go out of her way to help her competitors, I get that, and I don’t have an issue with it. But don’t make a promise to your so-called friends and the back out of it when you’re expected to come through. Now I’m inclined to believe she can’t be trusted.

          • Anonymous

            Bwahahahaha!

             “If she doesn’t want to go out of her way to help her competitors, I get
            that, and I don’t have an issue with it. But don’t make a promise to
            your so-called friends and the back out of it when you’re expected to
            come through. Now I’m inclined to believe she can’t be trusted.”

            She’s a national beauty pageant winner. Call me cynical, but you are describing pretty much a required personality trait.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              And it was a stupid “pact”.  For one thing, they’re grown women, not 11 year old girls, so one would think they were past the “pact” phase of life.  For another, they aren’t “best friends forever”, they met each other about 2 weeks prior to this — if you’re going to trust a competitor who you’ve known for 2 weeks, you’re kind of a moron.  Third, it’s not even a frigging helpful IDEA:  how does it help any of them to have 2 other designers whispering that their design isn’t working rather than following their own instincts?  All that does is cause them to second guess themselves constantly and that’s stupid.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Well, yes. Who over the age of 12 makes a “pact”? But then, Laura was involved, so it doesn’t surprise me that “pact” was the word they came up with.

              Anyway, I’ve been thinking about my comment, and everyone who’s responded has made excellent points. I can see Anya, or anyone one of them, agreeing to the suggestion because it’s easier than saying no. Saying no means you’ll end up having to explain exactly why you don’t want to support the other women who are still there. Then it gets into a whole big thing about competition and what’s fair and right and ethical and what’s not, and who in hell wants to have that conversation with your competitors. Or you say no and don’t want to talk about it any further and then everyone ends up hating you, and I think that’s something that Anya can’t handle. She wants everyone to love her.

              But it’s still not sitting well with me, and I’m not sure why.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              And I don’t think it had anything to do with supporting or not supporting other people — sometimes the WORST thing you can do is get someone second guessing themselves. 

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Yes, I agree on both points.  It’s just there always this illusion that the bond of friendship is more powerful than the competition and the desire to win, which, in this case, is ridiculous because these people are not real friends with each other. As you said, they’ve only known each other for a couple of weeks. I can see how it might feel that way, when you’re stuck living with a bunch of people and you hit it off with a couple of them, and there’s always some asshead who is so annoying that everyone else comes together through a common dislike, and my god, it’s like a microcosm of human behavior and it’s just begging to be studied by a bunch of sociologists with too much grant money.

              My point being that, at best, they’re acquaintances on a reality show. While the Golden Rule is called for because that’s just common courtesy and a way to keep bad karma from coming for your ass; and while I love it when the designers help each other out, it’s also true that no one should expect a whole lot of loyalty or support from virtual strangers they’re competing against. I guess that contradicts my original post. Maybe Anya’s only mistake was agreeing to this stupid “pact” (and I agree that it was stupid) in the first place.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Ha! I thought about that as I was writing that comment.

          • http://twitter.com/ihatejoelkim Joel Kim Booster

            She was giving away fabric on the last episode. I think you may be reading too much into this.

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              UGLY fabric. That nearly got Kimberly eliminated. 

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Point taken. She’s been generous in the past. But I think it was a crappy thing to do.

      • Anonymous

        I agree, and I’d like to add that $50 bucks were given to EVERYBODY, not her only…so they all had a chance to shine as well…the girl has good taste, doesn’t take risks with tailoring, does what works, and plays up her good looks – wouldn’t anyone? She’s smart and will be succeed but it is still sad there is no one with real talent+skill+personality-to-win on the show

      • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

         Muslim top? Muslin. Muslin. I’m sure it was just a typo, but I see that one all the time. Also Satan as satin in vice versa. :/

    • Anonymous

      The moment Anthony picked up that first print in Mood I said he’s going home. Gad, that is one ugly print.
      And I had the same thought as you, TLo, about the added challenge: they wanted to give Anya a second chance.Funny thing, though: isn’t the back of her blouse really well done?  I’m asking because it looks pretty damn good to me, but I don’t sew. When that look came out on the runway, though, I was sure she was gonna be in the bottom.

      • Anonymous

        I really liked the back, too. 

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Not only is the back not done, neither is the front crotch area (you can see the shirt through the gap in the pictures).

    • Anonymous

      Oh, also: When the show started last night, my husband, who only sees the show sometimes because I watch it and isn’t the least bit invested, and is completely unaware of the various controversies, said, “you know, I’ve seen this show with you off and on a lot now, and it’s getting really déclassé.”

    • Kate McCain

      Two comments: 
      1- didn’t Anya’s first look look a little familiar, aka, exactly the same as her designs for the first (and second) challenge?

      and 2. last night was the first time AR actually seemed color blind, he’s done so well with colors and then last night, ew.

      • Anonymous

        Interesting how he didn’t play on HIS disadvantage, isn’t it? ;-)

    • Anonymous

      Hey Lifetime viewers! Take a look at PR winning contestant Anya. She’s only been sewing for FOUR MONTHS! And she won! Girl Power! Whoo hoo! SHE TAUGHT HERSELF! FOUR MONTHS!   See, Lifetime’s not just for downtrodden meth head coed call girl Tracy Baxter Spelling’s anymore. And if Anya can do it AFTER FOUR MONTHS, you, Lifetime viewer, can too!  You can do anything! You go girl! Empowerment! Head on down to Joann fabrics and get started!                   

      But first, check out DANCE MOMS!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C65IT4K6RYN4TWRMFJOI3VUDAI Olechka Milashka

        OMG, can I just say that whatever I see on Dance Moms previews makes me thing that CPS should be called stat!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

          Not CPS – more like Bellvue to have them come get the moms and the dance teacher. Looking at those previews makes me feel waaaaay normal. 

        • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

          CPS should be called on the production team of that show!! My sister and various kids I know did dance team for years…the way they portray private dance studio competitive dance teams is, if not entirely manufactured for the cameras, mostly manufactured. The pyramid of who’s on top this week? The mothers spending endless hours in the dance studio with the kids and teacher? The intensity about dance “championships” as if this is some kind of Olympic sport the girls can actually advance in? The whole thing is as manufactured as “The A List” or “Real Housewives” but the criminal thing is that in this case, children are the human props instead of consenting adults.

        • Anonymous

          You know, when football coaches yell and scream “Go Win!” No one says “Oh how mean of him……my kid’s not gonna play anymore.” What Dance Moms is showing is the equivalent in the dance world. She views herself as their coach and will say anything to get the best out of each kid. It’s the mothers who are the wack-jobs.

      • Anonymous

        Not gonna lie, I LOL’d…and I RARELY LOL.

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      I’m amazed that the “top look” and the “bottom look” resemble each other so closely—backless maxi dresses with large graphic print. And I’ll go on record that Anya’s $11 look (tight in front, blousy racer cut in back, sad waistband) was worse than Anthony’s homeless office assistant look.

      When Anya lost her money, I immediately thought, “I betcha Bryce’s oversized hip pocket dress would have come in handy, huh?”

      I had to laugh. Didn’t Anthony Ryan refer to his dossier last night to see how sleeves looked in the ’70s?  They must have been too complicated because here’s another inexplicable vest-over-vest look. He skipped the sleeves for his rockstar last week too.

      Poor Anthony. I didn’t think he was finalist material, but one of the other bottoms should have gone first IMO.

      • Anonymous

        “I betcha Bryce’s oversized hip pocket dress would have come in handy, huh?” Bravo. :-)

    • Anonymous

      as someone who was in the manufacturing business for almost 20 years, I can see a lot of pragmatic reasons for keeping Anya in the mix.  She has a great eye (you even admitted her looks were on trend), doesn’t fold under pressure, and can think on her feet.
      The guest judge had a businesslike attitude as well, which was a refreshing contrast to the increasingly annoying one liners from the other judges.
      Anya would make as good of a head designer as any- she could be a trend setter, and a great face for the company.  It’s not all about seamstressing skills.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        ITA.  In fact, in the reality of fashion, it’s not at all about seamstressing skills.  As long as you know enough about sewing to know what fabric can or can’t do, that’s plenty.

        • Anonymous

          Exactly.  I think one reason Kors is so hot on her is because he himself admits he isn’t a great sewer.  It’s not all about the sewing, it is about the look.  I like Anya, although she is being stuffed down our throats.  She clearly has a great eye for a specific vibe, and it works.  I think the Anya love from the judges is a bit over the top, but I don’t think this is some grand conspiracy, jsut a minor conspiracy.  

          I think they kept Laura there, despite the hideousness of her looks (and the dislike from Nina, which quite frankly we don’t entirely see in the bits shown on TV) for the lifetime women factor.  As usual, all the female chaff goes home first, then a couple of guys, and the last few women hang on til jsut about this stage when they are unceremoniously dropped.   

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

          Except on this show, where, if you get to the finals, you’d better damn well have sewn all that stuff yourself, as we saw with Jeffrey on Season 3. Yeah, being chief designer somewhere might not mean you need to be able to sew well enough to produce a line and you might not even need to make the sample, but you do have to know more than a little bit about construction, etc. and the only real way to be able to know that in an instinctive way is to be able to sew.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            But knowing how to sew and being a great sewer are two different things.  Kors, to use the example above, has said he’s a bad sewer because he lacks the patience to do it well. 

            And knowing how to sew is not the only way to understand construction — I’m the opposite.  I found sewing very easy to learn because I understood the construction of a garment from years of shopping: seams should be finished this way, a seam hitting here is unflattering, etc. 

      • Anonymous

        Yes, but.

        I think that as a competitor, Anya’s admirable. She’s gaming the game show – why not? they make a ton by trading a little exposure for a lot of time, effort & sometimes humiliation put in by the contestants – I have often wondered why the contestants don’t seem to have looked at the process with a more analytical eye before competing. (Once I had passed the initial auditions I damn sure would spend several hours in Mood studying the layout & learn my way around a commercial sewing machine backwards & forwards, as well as making sure I could do basic menswear, could fit a dress on someone of ample proportions, and had spent at least a few weeks – a month or two of weekends, if I had a job – making a garment a day, start to finish. Not to mention spending a little time trying to work with some randomly chosen ‘unconventional materials.’)

        I think that for me, complaining about Anya’s success is fueled by the spleen I have to vent at a process that has made obvious producer manipulation a weekly event, rather than an occasional outrage about which we minions can bitterly mutter and whine.

        I want to blame it on the fact that the talent pool is so shallow – there are so rarely this season 4 or 5 arguable competitors for the winner. There are so rarely more than two.  (Though, to be fair, I haven’t re-watched the first 3-4 seasons so my memory may be rose-colored.)

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Yeah, I’m with you on the prep that seems so lacking by contestants.  Fitting different sizes would require no practice for me, but I already told my husband if I audition, I’m going to rope he and his friends into letting me make them some stuff to practice menswear, just in case.  The unconventional materials I would practice if I made it through some of the auditions, and I would need to practice my formal wear and avant garde — all my work is in the real clothes for normal people realm so I don’t do a lot of that kind of thing:)  Mood, I don’t know how much practice will help, since fabric stock changes regularly. 

          And I don’t like to claim producer manipulation because I don’t know how much of that there really is.  I think we too often assume it’s the producers, when it’s really the judges.  (For instance, last year there were many claims that the producers were behind it.  Yet the judge who was a producer fought hard for Mondo to take the finale) I can understand why she would seem so wonderful when compared with all the others. 

          Not just with Anya, either.  Yes, we all hate Josh, ’cause he’s an ass.  But the judges don’t see that.  What they do see is someone who does have a recognizable (if tasteless) style — in a field where that’s rare — and has the confidence to defend his work vigorously.  Compare him to some of the designers that have been eliminated and he doesn’t come out that bad IF YOU DON’T KNOW ANY OF THE BACKGROUND STUFF. 

          Besides, this year both Tim and Heidi are producers, so I don’t know how much I believe that the producers are behind the horrible choices the judges are making.  Now, the editing… yeah, they deserve to take shit for that.  Remember Victorya and her accusations that some people were getting extra money to give them a leg up?  Or her whining that she had thought that the challenges were staged and she wouldn’t REALLY have to finish in 2 days?  None of that was shown because it didn’t add anything valuable.  Now they’re shorting us on the interesting critiques to give us “drama” between designers. 

          But I have more respect for B/M than most viewers.  I think if you look at the challenges this year, they did try to address some of the viewer complaints from last season — there are a lot less “make a pretty dress” challenges this season and a lot more “concept” challenges.  I think they just got a shitty crop of designers this year, for reasons I’ve mentioned before.  And when the work is so BORING (not bad… bad is at least fun to slam.  This crap is too dull to even be entertaining that way), you don’t have a lot of options but to ring interest out of designer drama.

          • Anonymous

            “Compare him to some of the designers that have been eliminated and he doesn’t come out that bad IF YOU DON’T KNOW ANY OF THE BACKGROUND STUFF. ” 
            I don’t know. Even without the workroom drama, they have questioned his taste level time and time again, and told him over and over that he needs to edit. He doesn’t listen, and contestants in previous seasons have been aufed far sooner for both of those issues.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Granted.  But contestants in past seasons have had far stiffer competition.  Of the people who have been auf’ed, how many do you think really deserve to still be there?  Maybe one or two?  It’s a question of who’s the worst, and sadly, Josh hasn’t really deserved to go ahead of most of them — not definitively, anyway.

            • Anonymous

              Oh, I hear ya. I’m not even invested in any of them winning, just sort of “meh” about preferring Viktor because he’s the least of all evils at this point. But it doesn’t prevent me from wishing for more consistent judging within this season, and across multiple seasons (considering they’ve had the same three primary judges almost all along). 

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I don’t know that’s consistent judging is really possible — I mean, say Victor makes something totally bland and boring next week (usually the PR cardinal sin).  Do any of us really want him to go home for that?  Ahead of say, Laura?  Or Josh? 

              When you’re trying to balance out current results with past results with potential, I don’t think it’s EVER going to be truly consistent.

      • Anonymous

        What makes a great designer is not someone with the ability to be “on trend” it’s someone who can create trends.  So far, I’ve seen nothing remotely cutting edge from Anya.  She does perfectly nice resort wear, but it’s the kind of stuff you can find in any beach boutique and in my eyes that’s not real fashion.  The only thing special about her is her good looks and an allegedly sparkling charming personality that’s either going over or under my head.

      • Anonymous

        She has a good eye for prints, but her taste is very VERY narrow. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Micaela-Cannon/1465504041 Micaela Cannon

      All I kept thinking was “I wonder which producer told Anya to ‘lose’ her money. I didn’t really mind that the look she made won, but it all felt so stupidly contrived. And then when it was Joshua and Anthony Ryan up there, I turned to my mom and went “Bye Anthony.” I knew there was no way they were going to let go of Joshua yet. I’ll just be pissed if he makes it into the final three….but at this point I’m expecting them to disappointment me, so…

      • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

        “All I kept thinking was “I wonder which producer told Anya to ‘lose’ her money.”

        Nah, one of them probably stole it!!

    • Kyle Crawford

      Let’s just all close our eyes and think of the ALL STARS!……just lets this dreadful season be over….

      • MilaXX

        despite the spoiler I heard about All Stars I am really looking forward to it.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t know what spoiler you heard (and we all know they have been wrong before!) but I have the same feeling this time that I got last time: the entire All-Stars concept is a thinly veiled attempt to reward a mistake. The first time, they wanted to give Daniel Vosivick the win that he should have deserved the first time around (and considering Vos’s WACK runway on the All-Stars and his winning proves this). This time, it’s more than likely all for Mondo. I wonder if they called him first just to make sure it was all worth it.

          • Lori

            I don’t care what the politics of All Stars is, or what fix is in — after this season I just want to watch something called “Project Runway” again and say ‘wow, I want to wear that’ or ‘isn’t that interesting’, or ‘mmmm, it’s not my taste but it’s new and different’ or even ‘that’s impeccably made.’

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

              I need a LOVE button for this because like isn’t enough. 

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Or at least let me “Like” the comment 100 times.

              I’m expecting ridiculous  challenges for All Stars, because this is still Lifetime and Bunim/Murray. The difference will be that the cast members are actually talented. I’m so excited to see Mondo’s and Gordana’s work again. And Mila’s, who I love because she’s so very cool and she designs for grown-ass women.

            • Anonymous

              and Austin’s and Rami’s, and Kara’s….

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Yes!

              My love for Austin knows no bounds, but I am having a hard time picking a favorite. It was same thing with Top Chef All Stars. I couldn’t pick a favorite because I liked almost all of them.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I’m over the moon with the cast they’ve got for All-Stars.  I think they got a great mix of the really amazing and talented designers with people who are good on TV. 

              And this is SO MUCH better than the All Star special they did a few years ago — as much as I would have liked to see some of my favorite past winners (particularly Seth Aaron, because he’s a joy to watch) it’s not fair to have winners competing against people they already beat once.

            • Anonymous

              agreed

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NCE7HCMDQDBIQ2ZVGSZPRYSPYA L

              You’re so right. I used to watch the runway segment with such anticipation. Ah, the good old days. There have been a few stray good outfits this season, but most of it is ill-conceived and poorly executed.

          • http://twitter.com/dodgefan Lisa Weaver

            Just like Top Chef doing an All-Stars so Richard Blaine could “win” the “competition”. Too bad reality TV producers have forgotten the “real” part of their formula. Either pony up and pay for some writers or step back.

            • Eclectic Mayhem

              “His name is Blaine? Oh! That’s a major appliance, that’s not a name!”

              And the Top Chef fella is Richard Blais I think, but you gave me the chance to quote Pretty In Pink and that’s always a good thing!

              If PR All Stars is all about giving Mondo the win, then that’s fine by me!

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              Wasn’t Blais on the year they had a bunch of women in the top? There was no way they were going to let him win then. So sure, going by that formula, bring him back and let him “win” all-stars. *Rolling eyes*

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        You just know Anya’s gonna be on next time though. OR! They threw in a twist and added her this year.

      • Anonymous

        I had the exact same thought when I saw the teaser last night.  At least THOSE people can make clothes and have strong personalities to boot.

    • Anonymous

      I woke up still shocked that Victor didn’t win. I hated both of Anya’s looks and actually thought she’d go home. Then, ooops, remembered the judges (i.e., producers). That decision was the worst of every single PR season.

      • Anonymous

        Victor looked shocked too, don’tcha think? His look was definitely the best, but I can see how it would have been too hard/expensive to recreate. 

        • Anonymous

          I swear, if I had been Viktor and Bert, I would have literally thrown myself down on the runway in a screaming fit.  The appalled looks on their faces were pretty good, but a good tantrum would have been cathartic for all of us.

      • Courtney St.Julian

        The Germans have a word for what I’m feeling as I read this post and all the comments: schadenfreude. I swore off PR after last year’s Gretchen debacle. I’m so glad I made that choice. Things have only gone from bad to worse. Someone, please, SAVE TIM GUNN!

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I really didn’t think Victor met the challenge.  Cool, yes.  Fashionable, definitely.  Beautifully made as well.  But NOT particularly 70s. 

    • Scott Hester-Johnson

      There is no way in hell that Anya has only been sewing for 4 months. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

      And after Tim’s icy dismissal of Precious Moments last week I almost shed a tear (as did Tim) when he said goodbye to Anthony.

      Interesting Sidenote: The silver aglets that the Piperlime lady went on and on about are not on the dress they have online.

      • Anonymous

        OMG! Someone who knows what aglets are!

        • Scott Hester-Johnson

          Of course I know what aglets are; how very dare you.

          And yes, I see they are there on the Piperlime dress, but instead of being the orgasm-inducing heavy-bottomed solid ones Bert used, they appear to be ordinary open-ended wrap aglets like on your shoe laces or hoodie.

          • Anonymous

            No offense meant. it’s one of my favorite trivia questions; “What are the tips of shoelaces called?” Rarely does anyone know the answer. This is probably the first time I’ve run across the phrase used conversationally.

            • Anonymous

              Thanks guys.  I’ve learned something new.  I’m always the “fashion” person at the table on trivia nights, and this is a good one to have in my repertoire.   

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Ask a group of 6 to 10 year olds who have cable, and at least 75% know it now!  :)

          • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

            It also looks like they skimped on the fabric for Bert’s dress. The skirt is narrower, causing it to lose the swing that made it look special.

            • Anonymous

              YES.

        • Betsy Wasser

          If you watch the cartoon Phineas and Ferb, you’ll even know a song about aglets! A-G-L-E-T! Don’t forget it!

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Yeah, Phineas and Ferb had a whole episode on the aglet.  (For those who don’t have children, it’s a HILARIOUS cartoon on the Disney channel — I have been known to watch it when the kids aren’t around, it’s that good.)

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OD35QQZNBPZJXWTCBY7N4EE7VY Sarah

          “The plastic tips at the ends of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister.”

      • MilaXX

        No, if you look closely the silver aglets are still there, it’s just they have made subtle changes that remove the charm of the original dress. The fabric looks cheaper and the uneven hem has been changed to a straight hem.

        • Anonymous

          the aglets (thanks! I didn’t know the name for those) do not cover the tip of the fabric in the belt and that makes them look way cheaper than the original version… silly, right? probably some cost-cutting issue there…. 

          • MilaXX

            yes, a small change here and there really cheapened the whole look of Bert’s dress

            • Anonymous

              YES.

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        I didn’t know what they called them, but I was laughing at Piperlime judge’s multiple orgasms over the aglets. Very ’70s—and not revolutionary in the mind of a designer who used them back in the day—still they were the perfect for the minimalist chic dress that Bert designed.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C65IT4K6RYN4TWRMFJOI3VUDAI Olechka Milashka

          Yup, I too thought that her fascination with them was laughable

        • Anonymous

          The 4th time she raved about the silver aglets, I looked down at my ratty 25-year old sweatshirt from an agricultural collage’s manure-spreading department’s annual picnic, which I won for spitting watermelon seeds the furthest, and realized it has THE EXACT SAME AGLETS.  Wow, I’m so CLASSY!  Piper lady said so! Classy and elegant and EXPENSIVE!  

          Snort.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C65IT4K6RYN4TWRMFJOI3VUDAI Olechka Milashka

        Yes, the difference between Tim’s goodbye to PM and AR could not have been more stark!  But AR was a very nice guy, and PM was, well, preeeecious.

      • Anonymous

        Did anybody else get the sense that Tim couldn’t keep his hands off Anthony? Just sayin’

    • http://twitter.com/kittycat2302 Rachel Stevens

      Look at it this way: Only 5 more looks and you’re all done with the episode! At least as people go home, you don’t have to pretend to care about so many looks! :)

    • MilaXX

      As much as I hated it, I knew Anthony Ryan was toast. Still I hoped against hope that the mess Josh created would send him home.
      I actually like Anya’s jumpsuit, but totally called her for the win when she lost her money. I like Anya, but I have to admit the bias for her is really obvious. At this point I predict she wins the whole shebang.Eh’ it beats a Gretchen win.

    • Anonymous

      In case anyone was wondering exactly how high the retail market is on clothes, Anya’s jumpsuit is retailing for $198, and Burt’s dress for $98.  We know both were made for under $50.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1326120071 Gaby Ripoll

        What about paying for labor? 

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Well they got the fabric wholesale, and mass produce these things so it’s probably much cheaper than $50.

        • Scott Hester-Johnson

          …from a sweatshop where they have only been sewing for four months.

        • Anonymous

          That’s a good point about labor costs, but think about this:  do you really think it costs Piperlime significantly more money to produce Anya’s look than it does to produce Burt’s look?  Remember, both looks were made with the same original amount of money.

          • Sara__B

            Piperlime has produced Anya’s outfit in silk; Bert’s uses a viscose/nylon blend with a polyester lining and less fabric overall.

      • Anonymous

        That’s $50 of material, though. You’re not taking labor, shipping, overhead, etc. into account.  However, I’m sure they used cheaper fabrics in the Piperlime versions (the back of Anya’s is polyester instead of silk chiffon), and the fact that they had to use Anya’s print to stay true to the look is probably a reason that it’s retailing for so much.

        • Anonymous

          They didn’t HAVE to use the same fabric, they seldom do on these “make to sell” challenges (remember Anya’s (excuse me, Josh’s) win for Heidi’s sneaker debacle? And all those reproduced wins from The Fashion Show). In fact, I’ve never seen something so remarkably close to the original win as these 2…

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        No, we know the SAMPLE was made for under $50.  But the samples are almost always improperly finished — they don’t line if they don’t have to, they don’t finish off seams nicely if they don’t have time, etc.  And the sample price reflects ZERO labor cost, and NO overhead for factory space or utilities or IT people to run the site. 

        Essentially we know both looks contained under $50 of MATERIALS, that isn’t a total cost.

      • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

        Its probably more like 20 to 25 dollars including labor.  The mark up is usually about 300 percent.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I doubt it.  When job costing, the price of any equipment used in the job is portioned out relative to use, so there have to be equipment costs there (and industrial sewing equipment isn’t cheap).  The same goes for utilities, which are quite pricey for a factory, and real estate, plus transportation costs, the cost of the website (either the rental on the servers or the cost of dedicated servers) the labor at the shipping warehouse….

          There’s a lot more costs that go into that kind of thing.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          That’s probably usually true, but then now that I think about it…. they are not in selling these PR outfits just to make money. They may be “loss leaders” for publicity only. Think how many clicks they got today!

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      Methinks Anya has something on Bunim and Murray… perhaps photographs of them together in bed. With farm animals. And gourds.

      • Scott Hester-Johnson

        That would be really creepy, since Mary-Ellis Bunim died in ’04.

        • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

          Oh yeah, I forgot. Well, we knew it had to be something big to be worth all the onscreen praise and drama…

          • Anonymous

            so technically we can only blame Murray?

            • Scott Hester-Johnson

              Correct.

    • http://twitter.com/karenwalsh Karen Walsh

      Thank you!  Glad I’m not the only one who has no interest in the outcome anymore.  But I still have interest in TLo!  The fact that every show is now thoroughly predictable takes the fun out of it, no?  Oh, and who else wants to smack Josh in the face really, really, really, really hard?

      BTW, anyone else kinda dig saucy Bert last night?  At least someone can make me laugh in this sea of boring.

      lovemesomenobody

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        Burt has grown on me.  He was kind of bitchy in the beginning but I think he’s mellowed a little.  I was so offended at Josh’s attack on him during the HP challenge I instantly took his side.  

    • Anonymous

      All the Anya-hate makes me sad.

      • Anonymous

        I’m not getting a lot of hate here. In fact, I think a lot people like or respect her, but feel that the success she’s having isn’t merited. Yes, some people think she’s putting on an act, but I think more people are focusing their dislike on the judging than on Anya herself.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know that it’s “hate” directed at Anya herself.  I think it’s more about the blatant producer manipulation. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCJEZMOV4VYMXC5WJALLZNYEB4 Mari Rose

        Nobody here hates Anya. They just don’t like the producer’s completely obvious manipulation.

        She’s simply not that good a designer to warrant the amount of praise she’s been given by the judges.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t get the Anya hate either.  I’ve always liked her and I will go on the record as saying she’s classy, smart, and not hiding a Dorian-Gray-sized mean streak. She has style and a distinct point of view, and she also seems like a decent person.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t hate her. I like the prints she picks, but her silhouettes are all pretty similar. I also think she’s been very shrewd in how she manipulates people and circumstances to her advantage. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but as far as talent goes? She coasts by or gets praised by the judges because of how she looks and how she presents herself.

          I think we’ve already seen all we’re going to see of what she can
          do design-wise. Maybe she’ll surprise me the way Rami did, but I doubt
          it.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I think she may have a lot in reserve in terms of design that she isn’t showing now because she can’t construct it under time constraints.  And that’s a good call on her part.  I did a blouse the other day with a RIDICULOUS amount of pleating and it’s fantastic, but I’d never try to do it on the show because I couldn’t replace the fabric if I screwed it up and I can’t do it fast enough to finish in time. 

            Being that she hasn’t been sewing long, I wonder how much of the “one-note” is because it’s working and she knows she can do it in time.  I think she may have more ideas but doesn’t want to run the risk of going too far from her comfort zone unless she has to.

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        I don’t hate her. I think she has style and is resourceful, but is vastly overpraised for her designs. Plus, I loved Bow Wow Wow.

        I also wouldn’t trust her. I noticed she relocated her “trust circle” lair from the break room to the sewing room to discuss other contestants’ output.

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        I don’t hate her. I think she has style and is resourceful, but is vastly overpraised for her designs. Plus, I loved Bow Wow Wow.

        I also wouldn’t trust her. I noticed she relocated her “trust circle” lair from the break room to the sewing room to discuss other contestants’ output.

        • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

          She looks EXACTLY like the girl from Bow Wow Wow!  I was surprised no one else mentioned it before now (though I absolutely could have missed a comment, I can’t possibly read them all).  

      • Anonymous

        I don’t hate Anya, I just don’t think she’s a very good designer and I’m sick of watching the judges give her a tongue-bath every week because she’s pretty and charming.

      • Toto Maya

        I don’t hate Anya, I hate how the judges react to her and give her a pass on everything. I honestly like her designs but that doesn’t mean that she should suddenly win everything ever and have excuses made for her that they wouldn’t make for the other designers. That’s not fair.

      • Anonymous

        I’m with you. The show is boring and the judges have a puzzling hard-on for Anya. That doesn’t make her a calculated master manipulator. It makes her A) lucky and B) smart enough to take that and run with it. I intend to point the finger of blame at the producers, the network, and the judges for allowing this bastardry to continue.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t think their enthusiasm is puzzling. She is a public relations PRIZE. They know she can meet & greet & schmooze and photograph charmingly.  She has a pretty good eye, and can be a walking advertisement for her own product, plus she’s probably a BONANZA for them – think of all the product placement items they can include in her appearances (which I am sure she is not compensated for.)

          Marie Claire no doubt thinks she’s their reward for suffering through their lame attempts to use Gretchen to their advantage.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            And not the first time that kind of thing has been considered — since S2, they’ve talked about how prepared someone is to handle the public relations and business side of things.  Heidi has said publicly that that’s the reason they gave S2 to Chloe, and one of the things in Christian’s favor during S3. 

          • Anonymous

            LOL about your Marie Claire comment. So true.
            I’ve said it from Day 1, Anya is reality-TV gold.

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        She is not deserving of all the fawning or wins.  I don’t think her “eye” for fashion and style is that fresh and earth-shattering.  Bold patterns and loose flow-y dresses – nothing groundbreaking there.  It’s the obviousness of the show playing her up for the big win and her subtle smugness that grates on my nerves.

    • Anonymous

      To be honest, I didn’t see a huge difference between Anthony’s maxi dress and Anya’s jumpsuit. They were both over-patterned messes. And at least Anthony’s had a nice belt to go with it.

    • http://twitter.com/ILikeShiny Cindi Williams

      Every time I hear the commercial for “ombre”, I hear Joey Tribbiani saying “Bijan for Men?”. Pop culture Tourette’s.

    • http://twitter.com/taijuuuh Taija HU!

      Honestly speaking.. Anya’s jumpsuit would be incredibly unflattering on anyone that isn’t the size and height of a model. In fact, it made the model look a little bulkier. It’s just not that good a garment. It’s on trend, but it’s just incredibly blah. 

      • Anonymous

         In my opinion, it didn’t look that flattering on Heidi either (http://heidiklum.aol.com/category/look-of-the-day/9-30-11)

        • http://twitter.com/taijuuuh Taija HU!

          Wow. Yeah, if you can make Heidi’s body look less than incredible you’re definitely doing something wrong. 

        • Anonymous

          Although at least Heidi “puts her money where her mouth is” and wears designs she says she would wear. Still haven’t seen Nina or Joanna Coles wear any of Gretchen’s clothes.

    • Anonymous

      I’m beginning to think that Anya’s sex tape also features one of the producers…or judges. Her winning entry could be sewn by a beginning home ec student who has never used a sewing machine before. 

      • Anonymous

        Well that’s part of why it won. Piperlime wanted something that can be sewn in 15 minutes by an experienced human or completely by machine preferably, keeps their margins high.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, and it seems patently ridiculous to have a design competition for “the next great designer” and have a challenge where you reward something that can be made with a Butterick pattern.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s outfits looked more like “another one of Anya’s looks” than 70′s inspired clothing to me.  But the thing which popped her over the top was, “Would it sell, and would I (i.e. Heidi) look fabulous in it?”  Clearly Heidi loved the look.  And she does look fabulous in it.  That “color block” dress of Bert’s which is also being sold?  It could easily fit into the category of “this could be found in any store in the mall.”  It’s very simple, and yes, very sellable (in any store in the mall).  Praising the silver weights on the belt as its stand-out point?  That’s reaching.  Seriously. 

      Anthony deserved to lose this challenge.  I’m sorry, but the mixing of patterns and colors was so off the mark, and the clothes were so poorly fitted.  The first one was a look I would expect to see on a homeless person who had scrounged it out of the bags of clothes discarded by Good Will because they were too ugly to sell (even by Good Will’s standards).  Nothing against the guy personally.  Just his looks were that bad for this challenge.  :(

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

        Ah, but Anya’s look comes directly from the ’70s. She didn’t invent it and neither did Uli. We were wearing long printed dresses with halter necklines long before Anya was born.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GZOV2BUB266AXLKTX2XK6H6KLI Utilty worker

      I can’t believe in a store full of camera guys videotaping the whole event that not one of them recorded her as she “lost” her money. Couldn’t they just review the tape?

      • Anonymous

        Excellent point!  And as I noted on the previous post, surely the store was closed except for the designers, production crew and a few employees, so hopefully there wasn’t a thief around.

        • Scott Hester-Johnson

          ‘Twas Swatch that stole the money (and ate it)!

      • Anonymous

        They could if it had actually happened in the first place. Don’t you think they would have shown us that tidbit if it got caught on film?  This whole episode just feels set up and scripted.

      • Anonymous

        It seems like the cameras are never around when there is some sort of dispute. Back when (was it Wendy’s) picture got drawn on, there was no camera footage. Even on Top Chef with whole pureed peas issue awhile back, there was nothing.

        It’s strange when it seems like that would be the exact drama they would want to catch on camera. Unless of course it’s the producers…

        • Lori

          Yes, but Pea Pureegate was explained by Colicchio:  This isn’t the Amazing Race.  There is not one camera crew per contestant.  Holds true for PR as well.  I don’t know what I believe but it’s at least possible she dropped it and the cameras didn’t catch it.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t know what I believe but it’s at least possible she dropped it and the cameras didn’t catch it.

            She dropped it when she knew there wasn’t a camera on her.

            • Lori

              Sure, could have happened.

            • Anonymous

              If you’re implying that she deliberately lost it, that I don’t believe for a minute. That’s way too “conspiracy theory” for me. I can’t see any contestant willingly handicapping him/herself like that.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              I agree. I mean, it’s certainly possible, but it seems a step too far to me. Anya wants to win, just like everyone else. She’s using every tool she has to make that happen. But I think she’s smart enough to know that purposely losing her money could put her at a great disadvantage. She’s willing to take chances, but I’m not convinced she’d go that far.

          • Anonymous

            That’s a good point. It just seems funny that with all the hours of video they have, when they need to prove something, it’s not there.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        As soon as she said it, it looked like there was a manila envelope on the table next to her. Propped against a fabric cutting (or whatever) machine. They even went back to that shot and the envelope (?) was still there. Not saying that’s what it was, but you never know.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          That was to show what they were looking for — it was another contestant’s envelopes because they all get the same one. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

      I don’t hate Anya’s win.  I like the finished pieces, I think they do seem ’70s inspired rather than a retread, and I think they are SELLABLE.  If you go into a challenge where the winning look is going to be made and sold, you should be designing with that in mind, which means it needs to be easily mass-produced. 

      I know there’s a lot of hate for Anya, but I kinda like her.  She has a POV that has been clear for day 1, she’s reasonable, she adapts well to challenges, she problem solves well, and she seems to grasp the business side, in that her clothes are very easy to make and wear, and she sells the hell out of them by selling her own image. 

      No, she’s not the best designer I’ve ever seen on this show, not by a long shot (though I would be very interested to see her post-PR work when she’s not limited by what she personally can construct, which is only a necessity for a designer in the world of PR.)  And yeah, she’s manipulative as hell — which doesn’t really bother me.  It’s effective, this is a competition, and if the other designers are foolish enough to fall for it, then they probably need some more life experience before working in the fashion industry anyway or they’ll get eaten alive. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Oh, and?  This is the “first time in the history of Project Runway” that I’ve ever gone to a retailer’s site to consider buying the winning pieces.

      • Anonymous

        I’m getting irked more by the judges’ fawning and the producer manipulation. I honestly don’t think she’s a one-trick pony. She made that cool tailored jumpsuit for the Nina challenge and has made a few skirts/dresses that were tailored. I think the powers that be are actually doing her a disservice by overpraising her. She could be a good contender on her own.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          And that’s annoying, I’ll agree.  But I think there’s more at play than just the producers here — she’s going to get overpraised because look at the field she was in.  Nina and Michael have ALWAYS been about POV, and she’s the only one to have shown a very consistent one from the first challenge on.  When you look at her construction, it’s not good, but they known the sewing story there — and her stuff is still rarely the WORST made on the runway even though the others have (presumably) been sewing much longer. 

          I think she’s getting a lot more praise than warranted because when you consider what they know of her and compare her to the competition, she looks like a damn savant! 

    • http://www.facebook.com/WendyLKaufman Wendy Kaufman

      Wow. they improved Anya’s a lot. Take a look at the top. Much neater. In contrast, I like Bert’s version of his dress better. Piperlime pulled the shoulders in, and made it look boring. I liked the wider set neckline. 

    • Christopher Hammer

      I agree with TLo – the ‘editing’ of the show has become so bad to the point that the fashion loses out to the ‘narrative’ and that means Helen Keller could see that Anya would win from the FREAKIN’ PREVIEWS?  Why put the actual CHALLENGE INFO in the ‘Next Week, On Project Runway’ teasers? (At least wait until the day before) – it takes any actual whiff of mystery and kills it. Because of the successes of the non-winning designers from prior seasons (a la J-Hud from American Idol) you know that people on the show play to win, not to be the best.

    • http://profiles.google.com/dchockeyguy Trevor Burroughs

      Work made me miss a couple of episodes, and now I don’t even care any more about who wins or loses.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t want to rag on the show, but I actually haven’t watched it since season 6.  I love the concept, and god knows I love your blog, but yeah… I just realized that Lifetime really killed it for me.

    • Anonymous

      Wait! No!  I won’t see the sho ’til tonight but . . . . I’m assuming she dyed muslin for that pumpkin top but according to the previews and all the talk this week she lost her money so where did all the prints (and as usual a beautiful print for the pants, not that other thing) come from? Guess I’ll have wait to see. Must say looking at rate the runway Bert’s sheer flowy dress was lovely. And yes, I’d have gone with Viktor for the win just from looking at rate the runway. Oh well, even without seeing it I have to say TLo your take on Anya and her win seems spot on.

    • Anonymous

      At this point I’m watching Project Ennui  just to see exactly how cracktastic the judges’ (producer manipulated) decision will be. Lord knows it’s not about the clothes anymore. 

    • Anonymous

      I was gobsmacked that Princess Josh didn’t go home last night.  Those pants he made were truly AWFUL and seven shades of hiddy. Gack.

      • Anonymous

        I was saving this comment for the Josh post, but I have to say it: My husband and I froze the frame where they showed the back of Josh’s pants. We seriously laughed until tears came out of our eyes. Then we forwarded to Kors’s reaction and froze on his face. More laughter and tears. Truly, the highlight of the evening.

      • Teri Zelasko

        Actually, Josh’s pants, as hiddy as they were, really reminded me of stuff that I saw and wore back in the day…funny that Michael of all people said that they weren’t realistic since he also prolly wore them back in the day…

        • Anonymous

          If by “back in the day” you mean the 80s, then, yes, I can see what you mean. There was little about either of his outfits that said “70s-inspired.” I would have given him the auf for that fact alone.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            THANK YOU!  That’s what I was ranting about the whole judging session — Laura’s wasn’t 70s either!  And WTF with the damn prints from BOTH of them!  None of them read 70s!

            • Anonymous

              Word. Dead Eyes and even Heidi get a slight pass because they are younger (or, in Heidi’s case, youngish), but Nina is my age and The Duchess is even older; they know the difference between 70s and 80s, and they should have called BS on a lot of what was up there. 

              Most of the prints this season are blowing my mind. Granted, they have a budget, but in a store that has a huge collection of beautiful textiles, most of them seem to find the UGLIEST, least appropriate bolts of fabric every damned week. And if the final collection sneak peaks were anything to go by, the ugly continues…..

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I don’t know about the guest judge, but Heidi is MORE than old enough to know — I’m 28 and I remember seeing prints just like those in my older sisters’ closets in the late 80s.  Heidi’s enough older than I am, she should know. 

              I do like that they’re using prints more, though.  Some designers have just been boggled by them, which I always hated.  I’m a fan of solid colors in my wardrobe, but everyone needs a few prints for variety.

      • Anonymous

        There is NO WAY in hell they’ll get rid of Princess until the absolute very last moment to milk every single shred of manufactured drama they can out of him.  Watch it turn into “…ve can’t make up our minds so all 4 of you vill have a kollekshun und zen ve decide on ze final sree”  Which will get your a similar meltdown like what they manufactured for Micheal C.

        • Anonymous

          I agree-they are keeping him simply for the Michael C-esque drama that will ensue…

          And yes, Josh’s pants were 70′s inspired, but to quote MK’s “the crotch was INSANE!!”

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Stephens-Bassett/1503492602 Karen Stephens Bassett

      The One Trick Pony wins again.  This season is a total repeat from last year…the fawning the judges have done over Anya since episode one is the same thing they did with Wretchen.  And of course, they were doing to keep Drama Queen over poor Anthony.  And what is going on with Nina and Barbie girl?
      Anya is going to win this season, even if Bert and Viktor are MUCH better designers and constructors.  Anya has produced the same thing, over and over and over again, except for the band episode.  And if she could have gotten away with a low-cut top and flowy bottom for her guy, she would have won that one, too.

    • Anonymous

      I felt bad for Viktor and Bert last night, but I knew it was coming based on the promos. I agreed with Viktor about not helping. Yeah, it was nice, just like it was nice for Bert to give Laura $150, but it IS a competition. Plus, it was her own damn fault she lost the money. Hold the freaking money in your HAND, not your boob (that didn’t even look bra supported to nicely tuck the money in), Anya. Whacked out judging all around for the win.
      The loss. Well, I wanted Laura or CC to go home. Knowing CC wouldn’t because of his attitude, I thought it might be Laura, but Anthony Ryan’s been on the bottom a few times. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C65IT4K6RYN4TWRMFJOI3VUDAI Olechka Milashka

      And again, Victor was robbed! 
      Although, Anya’s stuff was not bad at all.  I did find that it looked better on TV than in pictures.
      This season sucks! I remember I was pulled into watching season 3 after seeing the Miss America challenge (I think).  I was in AWE over how the designers could make such gorgeous clothes in 1-2 days.  And this season I am left with – you spent 2 days making THAT???  I just can’t believe the talentless bunch of designers this season.  I think this season is the worst ever!

      BTW, Anthony Ryan – he really grew on me.  We all had him pegged as a crier and expected him to milk his cancer storyline, but he mostly stayed above the fray and was very down to earth.  I was praying Joshua would get the auf last night, but alas.  Oh g-d, I cannot wait for him to leave!  His voice and mannerisms grate on my nerves.

      • Anonymous

        There is a bonus video on mylifetime.com that shows a faltered friendship between Viktor and Anthony Ryan. I guess they were growing close and talking and stuff and then Viktor all of a sudden stopped talking to him. Anthony Ryan thought Viktor was just thinking about the competition and was laughing at him. Viktor said that Josh had taken some of the comments and abused them, so he no longer trusted anyone and didn’t want to share information anymore.  It’s an interesting video and it gives a bit more sense of the friendships that were building (and then not) on the show.

    • Anonymous

      Huhh?! Hummmm?! Ok. heres the deal; I don’t mind being Fucked  (by the right person, in the right setting /lighting, background music, during non-bloating conditions, wearing flattering VS lingerie, and drinking  great wine) but , I don’t appreciate the “Sneak” Fuck. You know (and don’t you dare act like you don’t! ) The “Sneak”  Fuck that disguises itself in the clock of , love making, friendship, intimacy, booty call, death declaration,  job promotion or the unfortunate , case of too much booze or blow ( the latter is a total disclaimer for my mom’s sake).  Then  it reveals itself as being just a F!  How sad! Such is life!  Ughhhh!  That’s what happened last night!  We got SF’!d!  And I for one don’t appreciated being SF’d’!! 
       The BM powers that be,  already decided the storyline: Island Girl who learns to sew two minutes ago, loses (cue sad music) mood money, and still manages to create outfits worthy of Mk ‘s tongue upside/inside said Ass!! And Frek’n Wins!!!          I-Mean- Come-The-F-On!! Listen , it’s no secret that I’m not on team Anya. However, I’m one to give credit where credit is due.  Anya did half assed pull it out of the crapper, when she lost her mood money. Although, She did play it heavy, harping( Second piece that the judges were masturbating on ) that she created her looks with $11.50 and leaving out  the fact, she received all that material donation. I wouldn’t have expect anything less from her.
      What scratches on my rectum (sorry mom), is the Fake judging! You praise Viktor  for his craftsmanship and execution. It is obvious that Viktor had  the winning garments! And yet, not only do you give the win to Island Girl, but you pour salt into  the wound. You  exploit  a contestant’s design for PiperLime , by  kidnapping Bert’s second look for your commercial gain!  Enough!
       Again, Viktor you’re being robbed!  Blame it  on the BM production  crew which has taken the PR  Fashion Cred and flushed down the crapper!   I’m sooooo,  sorry Viktor! It didn’t matter how good your garments  were,  BM isn’t interested in design as they are in  a good story.  So next week,  you need to lose your mood money, get cancer , have some sort of drama with your parents/siblings/partner, an emotional disconnect, dance, sing, Something!!  Don’t just produce decent garments, that ain’t what PR is about anymore. 

      • Anonymous

        Island Girl who learns to sew two minutes ago, loses (cue sad music) mood money, and still manages to create outfits worthy of Mk ‘s tongue upside/inside said Ass!! And Frek’n Wins!!!

        Yup Anya saved the community center.

      • Anonymous

        LMAO! Oh well, the best design rarely ever wins the sponsor challenge because it usually is more complicated and would cost too much to produce. I knew there was no way Viktor would win. The judges will reward him down the line and unless he really screws up badly they will put him in the final three.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          In my mind, then, it’s not the best design.  You don’t make a freaking McQueen for Old Navy!  Part of the challenge is MEETING THE BRIEF — ignoring the practical realities isn’t meeting the brief.

          • Anonymous

            Well, then the original brief should’ve been something like, make a one-piece look to sell on Piperlime. Easy to manufacture, etc. Not, design something chic and inspired from the 1970s.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              The original brief said that it was to be manufactured for sale on Piperlime — that wasn’t added.  The one-piece was, but they ALWAYS knew it needed to be mass produced for sale.  Nobody sprung it on them, they knew who and what Piperlime was, the type of price point and quality that they were looking for, there was no good reason for them NOT to be taking that into account. 

              You don’t pitch silk to a client who comes in with a polyester budget — they aren’t going to buy it and you’re wasting everyone’s time. 

            • Anonymous

              The irony of your comment is that part of Anya’s garment currently being sold on Piperlime is 100% silk.

              And I’m not arguing with you. Reading your posts this season, I see that you are very much into design of clothes. I just watch PR and occasionally hot-glue gun a Halloween costume together for my kids (tho I made a bad-ass pharoah costume a couple of years go, as well as a headless horseman! off the topic). I am simply saying that the original statement was that they needed to design a chic, updated 70s outfit on a $100 budget. If Viktor could do all that on a $100 budget great! It means it is not too expensive. Though, in fairness to the judging, the judges did like Viktor’s outfit much better without the jacket even while praising the jacket. MK gave a nice lecture to Viktor about editing, even when the garment is GREAT and your proud of it, sometimes it doesn’t work.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              The original brief did tell them that it was to be sold on Piperlime as well.  And Victor could do that jacket for $100 because he didn’t have to pay for labor;  labor costs on that jacket would be very high unless you wanted it to be so poorly made as to completely alienate your customers.  (And there’s where that accounting degree comes in handy:) 

              And Victor’s jacket would not look anywhere near as good if mass-produced because it wouldn’t be custom fit.  The loose flowing jumpsuit and dress from Anya and Bert don’t rely on fit as much, which means they’ll look better in standard sizes than a jacket where the appeal is the tailoring. 

    • Amanda in Austin

      While watching this drivel last night, I could swear I heard T and Lo’s heads explode over more of the same ridiculous judging and the fawning over Anya.  And I called it several weeks ago.  Josh is this season’s Wendy Pepper. No doubt about it.

      I LOL’d when Anthony Ryan mentioned Woodstock. Poor, clueless little Anthony Ryan.

    • Anonymous

      Did anyone else feel like this challenge (with the neo-70s theme) was also a backhanded attempt to justify giving the win to Gretchen’s collection for a depressed hippie over Mondo’s last season?  I kept thinking back to Michael and Nina’s arguments in last season’s finale that a 70s revival is what’s happening now, and this was the producers’ way of saying, see, we were right for awarding the win to Gretchen.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1006374212 Berna Starling

      If I see another plunging V-Neck Maxidress from Anya, I`m gonna scream. And I`m already practicing my best “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH” since I`m sure I`ll only have to wait til next week.

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        SERIOUSLY agree!  Someone else mentioned that she is a one-trick pony.  Indeed that could not be more obvious with her.  I’m trying to keep Anya the person out of my increasing disdain for this season but I’m also starting to think she is completely smug that she has it in the bag at this point.  But she doesn’t have the talent or skills to back that up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691569288 Christopher Coyle

      I don’t get it. I really don’t. Yes, Anya’s designs are rather limited in scope, tailored pretty much for her, but she rarely says a bad thing about anyone, seems like a good-natured person, and is basically, the “Asiatic Uli.”

      Viktor’s a self-centered snob, who in my opinion, came off worse than Burt did in that first team challenge of them together, and is a bitchy little cat. Yes, he can sew, and I think he should have gotten the win. Hell, Burt should have gotten the win over Anya last night. No argument there.

      But all this Anya-hate?

      Bitches, please. It’s like a bunch of Joshes running around tearing down the ‘pretty girl’ just because she’s pretty.

      And for the “only sewing for 6 months” line?

      I was a costume design major… and in less than 6 months, I was putting together complete outfits for stage productions. And let’s face it, stage production fashion and the fashion in these runway shows is pretty much the same – as long as it ‘looks pretty under the lights,’ it doesn’t matter. And most of Anya’s designs do play to the fact that she knows she cannot sew like a beast, which is why she’s not pushing herself too hard.

      Do I think Anya should win? Perhaps not, but at least she’s relatively consistent, has good taste, a good eye for patterns/prints, and isn’t half-as-bitchy as the people tearing her down.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        It’s not all that impossible to learn to sew quickly, if you have a natural gift for fashion — I learned to sew 15 years ago and I still can’t read a pattern.  I just know how it’s supposed to look and cut the pieces accordingly.

      • Anonymous

        I also feel that because she was a beauty queen, she probably has an extremely keen eye for how clothing should hit the body in the most flattering way…and how to hide any flaws. I’m sure she was actively involved in all her various fittings, which would educated her in how clothing is constructed.

        It is funny. I haven’t been a huge Anya fan, but now I feel like I’m turning into an Anya apologist! Weird what this show does to a person…

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I do that every season.  I have a soft heart, and I always think about how that poor designer (who in all likelihood is NOT exactly as the show portrays them, for good or ill) feels reading stuff about themselves.  I have to REALLY intensely dislike someone before I can go a full season without defending them.  (Though there have been a few.) 

          And that’s exactly what I suspect about Anya’s learning to sew — I did the same thing.  I learned about how things should fit and be constructed through a lifelong love of shopping.  I learned about fashion from LOOKING at it.  Then I realized I know some really stupid people who can sew, and I could probably do it.  It was a bit more complicated than I expected, but a lot of the things beginning sewers have to learn, I already knew.  Putting it into practice takes work, no doubt (and I don’t think I will EVER understand fabrics as well as Sewing Siren:) but it’s not unbelievable to me that Anya could get the skills she’s shown so far.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t usually defend designers so readily. I’m of the mind that if they sign up for a show like this, then they have to roll with it. Although, when I see people piling on someone who might not deserve it, I will say something. I felt there was a weird irrational hatred of Michael Costello last season, for instance.

            Your comment about stupid people being able to sew made me laugh. I said the EXACT same thing about childbirth, when I was totally freaking out about the birth part. I thought, “Look at all the dumb shits who have done this multiple times!” LOL

      • Anonymous

        Anya laughed on the runway when Anthony (I believe) was being hammered by the judges. Time and time again, she has been in the lounge badmouthing another contestant (usually with Laura) only to be two-faced friendly to them (Becky instantly comes to mind). She isn’t the only one but the others are disliked for it too. 

        Kimberly is the only female who hasn’t been phony and a Mean Girl. Anya has earned a lot of the dislike directed toward her, imo.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I think Anya could have at least tried to stifle that laugh, considering Anthony gave her the rest of his money. It wasn’t much, granted, but he didn’t have to do it. And that goes for Laura when Bert gave her his money. Show some grace, you ungrateful little twits.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I don’t think she was laughing at Anthony, I think she was laughing at the phrase.  I understand, as I would probably do the same thing — I’ve been known to have to stifle a giggle at funerals.  Humor is how I deal with uncomfortable/unpleasant situations. 

          • Anonymous

            So … I’m from Trinidad. We love to laugh … we laugh at each other all the time. Perhaps we are more thick-skinned than the average American. I’ve been married to an American for over 4 years now, and even though I try my best to edit myself, I still get in trouble all the time for laughing when people think I shouldn’t. 

            Who could resist “Hippie Sister Wives” or whatever Kors said? It was Hysterical. I think Anya couldn’t help it. It doesn’t mean she did not like or appreciate Anthony. I liked him myself and LMAO after that comment. Poor thing.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              You’re probably right. And “Hippie Sister Wives” is pretty hilarious. I was just feeling really bad for Anthony Ryan.

              I think I need to stop piling on Anya. Why waste my time on that when  Laura and Josh are so much more deserving of it.

      • Anonymous

        Amen and a-MEN! I cannot stand Viktor. His attitude is at least as bad as Joshua’s at times. The only thing I hate worse than constant cattiness is constant whining. And honey, he brings the whine to this cheese-fest in SPADES.

        • Anonymous

          He brings it to the confessional and they all kind of whine / bitch in the confessional, but he’s fairly focused in the work room.  He’s not the one who was whining about Josh copying him. It was brought to his attention by someone else.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            And on a PLEAT?  Seriously?  It’s not exactly ground-breaking!

            • Anonymous

              was the irritation that Viktor designed pleats from scratch or that Josh had come over to see what Viktor was doing, made the back pleat for the jacket and decided to do the exact same thing? It was Kimberly who called Viktor’s attention to it and that’s when he went over to look at it.

              If you’re talking about Anya’s poorly-constructed pleats, then I am answering the wrong comment!

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Yeah, I do think Josh was kind of ripping off Victor’s pleat on the jacket, and may have ripped off the fringe idea the week before.  But I liked Victor’s “whatever” attitude about it, because it is a pleat — even if he just saw Victor’s and went “oh yeah, that would work”… it’s still just a freaking pleat!  Maybe Victor’s just reminded him of the 100s of other jackets he’d seen with a pleat in the back and he was really ripping them off instead:)

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        Sorry, I don’t think you can compare Anya’s clothes to Uli’s.  Uli’s dresses were beautifully executed — did you see the couture dress she did in Paris?  Yes, they both make long, flowing patterned dresses, but Uli was a genius at mixing patterns, and her designs were actually more than just three seams — she had beautiful detailing.  Not even close.  

      • http://twitter.com/oekmama Melanie Dunn-Fiedler

        I agree with you. The show is kinda turning into a ‘How’s Anya gonna pull herself thru this week?’
        I don’t agree with you on the ‘never says anything bad about anyone’ part. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but up to a certain point, all you need is just ONE person whose look is worse than yours. Then you move on and that person gets sent home.

        I got the feeling that even though she knew she was in a hole, she kinda coached Anthony Ryan to a losing outfit. Remember when she was lounging at his table and he said he feels that Anya is the girl he’s designing for, and HE said that she had assured him that she would TOTALLY wear all his pieces. I was LMAO when I heard that…

        And it wasn’t Laura who was the only one to break the Girl-Power pact: They had agreed to be honest and tell each other when they were heading in the wrong direction. NEITHER of them said a word to Kimberly, even though she walked into the sewing room a split-second later.

        • Anonymous

          And to Laura’s credit, she said, “but we made a pact” and it was Anya who said they needed to break it. It was Anya leaning over Laura talking about how bad Kimberly’s outfit was. And it was Viktor who said they both needed to shut up and let Kimberly design what was in her heard and gut. Sounds like he wasn’t whining but standing up for someone else.

    • http://asskickingadviser.com/ Ass Kicking Adviser

      Wow, so much hatin’ on the Anya this morning? What is up with that? Yes, the plot was manipulated last night – we’ve never seen an episode when it wasn’t – but I am sensing some ‘awkward-girl-in-high-school whiplash’ or something. Maybe she is pretty. Maybe she is overpraised. But she was in the Miss Universe pageant, and if she wanted to just be famous, she could have called Big Brother and they would have dropped her into the cast. She is a hard worker, a non-complainer, doesn’t bother with the bitching (too much), and she’s a good story. If she were an ugly duckling we’d all love her to pieces.  I’ll take Anya any day over the boredom of three Laura-Kathleens and a pile of Parsons grads.
      But you aren’t going to get me to say anything nice about the guest judge – I wanted her to shut up – and I hated her drippy little voice. ugh.

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        Oh for hell’s sake it has nothing to do with her looks, what a ridiculous accusation.  I personally could care less what she looks like.  My opinion has everything to with the meritless fawning she is receiving and undeserved wins.  I’m also not buying the “gracious and sweet” persona she’s trying to sell for the benefits of the cameras.  

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I don’t think it’s a question of her looks, but a lot of people DON’T like beauty queens.  For a vast array of reasons, not all of them invalid.  Most of us have a certain preconceived opinion of beauty queens, justified or not. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=4300013 Jack Marquardt

      I hope this is the final season of Project Runway you guys blog (I suppose with the exception of the All Stars); the show is not deserving of your wit and insight anymore.

    • Anonymous

      Nailed it, TLo.  Except for one thing: I don’t think Anya is pretty. Oh, she has bone structure and she does her makeup well, but if you looked in the dictionary under “Pretty Girl,” I don’[t think Anya is what you’d see.  But Heidi probably relates to the Beauty Queen thing.

      Whatevs is right (even though I hate that term), and thanks for saying out loud what I was only wondering silently and almost guiltily: The “twist” challenge–”Make something else”–being created especially for Anya. Stupidest challenge ever.  Not “Make something else–only this time use the 1950s as your reference” or “Make something else–the exact opposite of whatever look you’re working on.”  Just “Make something else.  Anya, here’s some more money. Don’t lose it this time.” What was the 1970s reference for her designs?  Everything she makes looks the same, including her “winning” look.

      My favorite moment of the episode was Clinique’s whining, in the waiting room after the initial judging, about how he wasn’t born in the 1970s so how could he possibly be expected to know what 1970s fashion was, and how Kimberly, Viktor, and Bert took him on for not knowing a thing about fashion history, and how he stalked from the room, eyebrows twitching.

      The bottom three were the bottom three, and Anthony was doomed because of the boring factor.  Despite the fact that what Clinique and Ozark Barbie produced were like lye in the eyes.  Hideous beyond hideous.

      • Anonymous

        And all that excuse making from CC, after opening the show with his loud proclamation that people are using a lot of excuses (“I can’t make menswear”).

        • Anonymous

          Wait a minute, how can he claim that when his clientele (and I’m not going to go there as to what he does for his clientele) are gay men as he claimed in the Sheepdog challenge?

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            No, that was an example he gave of OTHER PEOPLE making excuses, not one of his excuses — because it was something within his experience so other people should have been fine with it.  Ask them all to do something that is a reach for JOSH, though, and that’s totally out of bounds and unfair. 

            Jesus, what an ass….

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        Any time the Nina says she’s bored, it is the kiss of death.  They’d much rather keep someone around that they viscerally hate than someone that just bores them.  

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I’m with her.  I can deal with the horrifyingly bad — there’s some thought there, even if it isn’t a good one, and it’s fun to watch.  Boring… there’s nothing good with boring.

    • Anonymous

      TLo said: “Always, always remember, kittens: This isn’t fashion. This is a game show. It always has been.”

      Thanks for that reminder, luvs. I needed it. I should print it out, frame it and place it in front of me while viewing every future episode of Project Runway. Then, I can sit back & relax & just enjoy (maybe) the characters.

    • http://twitter.com/KarineLovesYou Karine Briere

      Yeah, the first thing I thought of was the Santino vs. Emmett/Daniel Franco/Nick Verreos. But Anthony Ryan is too cute for words and 75% of why i’ve been watching this season at all. Heartbreak :( 

    • http://twitter.com/thedogsmother thedogsmother

      Will miss Anthony. A lot!

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        I already miss Anthony.

        By the way, I love your photo of the sunglasses-wearing-dog.

    • BerlinerNYC

      I couldn’t see where things were going during the sewing phase, but the second the runway show happened, it was obvious who was going to be in the bottom two. Man, those looks were clueless. How the bottom three managed to be so willfully ignorant of anything before the mid-90s is beyond me. Loved Clinique getting all indignant about being expected to have any idea about something before his time. Also loved Bert’s crack about the balcony at Studio 54 and Blenley being too clueless to get it.

      It also, however, seemed obvious that Viktor would be the winner. But from a production perspective, yes, his looks would be much more expensive to mass-produce. My first thought when they announced Bert’s bonus win was that the dress was so simple that it was a bonus for Piperlime, since it would be so easy/cheap to produce.

    • Anonymous

      I’m in the minority, but I’m still “into”  this season. Enough so that I gasped a little when Josh was told he was in.

      I loved *everything* Victor did this week.

      I’m also giving Anya a pass because I’m just that shallow.

    • Anonymous

      Does anyone else wonder what’s going on with Tim this season? He doesn’t seem like his usual chipper, witty self. Do you think it’s a smack-down for telling that Anna Wintour story? http://jezebel.com/5631817/anna-wintour-unleashes-her-wrath-on-tim-gunn
      He was always the highlight of PR for me. Feels like the heart has been ripped out of the show.

      • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

        I feel this is true, too.He was perhaps too frank on his Facebook page and other venues about past seasons, so they have really cut back on his role and screen time.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          It may have something to do with other commitments as well — he does a lot more outside stuff than he used to.

      • Anonymous

        Except that this year – according to an interview on Blogging Project Runway – Tim himself is a producer.

        • Anonymous

          I can’t help thinking that his producer job is a prelude to him gradually phasing out his on screen presence. I say three more seasons (if the show makes it that long), tops, & then he’s only on camera a couple of times a season to introduce someone or to guest judge.

           

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again. PR without Tim will not last. He’s the heart and soul of the show. No one can successfully replace him.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BOL3X2S23HFP6O5ZNMMBZIMLGQ Cyd

      It is incredible to me that the producers that created this show have taken it sooooooo far from the formula that made it successful. After last season’s debacle, I didn’t know if I could take another season. And they are making it increasingly difficult for me to give a rat’s ass about this season as well. Nice work, guys.

    • taodon

      And… I’m done with this show.  I thought this season the producers would self-correct over last year’s yawnfest – and they did – into a wall.  I will admit that I really did think the show was about talent, skill, and vision – and I may have blinded myself into thinking that was the case for the first seven seasons – but now… done.

      I’ll just stick with TLO’s reviews from now on.

    • http://twitter.com/IvyTurnstyles Cyd Paiva

      It’s like they are not even trying to make this show interesting anymore. Are they phoning it in or what?

    • Anonymous

      Adding the second piece to the contest was so obvious it wasn’t even funny. Three of us watching just rolled our eyes and we knew Anya was going to win. I am over this show. It’s tired and formulaic. I get that it’s a game show, but it at least used to be interesting and about fashion. The over the top focus on drama queen/angst has me just feeling blah about it. I don’t need to watch the show for that. If they don’t change things, I am pretty sure I’m done watching. It just isn’t interesting to me anymore.

    • Anonymous

      Sadly, this was the first time in the competition where Anthony Ryan’s colorblindness was a handicap.   I wonder if the other designers were helping him along the way and (As Viktor said last night) decided….no more.  Sure the construction was bad too and I could see the writing on the wall halfway through the episode.  I miss Anthony Ryan….what a nice guy!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IVAJNOUIUXRFJA627JMU2YLWSY ana

      When they dismissed Blenley and there was just  Anthony and Josh left on that runway, I just stopped crossed my fingers and told myself to accept the obvious fact they would keep effing Drama Vortex for drama’s sake. Anthony Ryan started as my favorite designer, got “replaced” midway by Viktor, but it still remained one of the few people in this season worth watching IMO. And one of the nicest contestants aswell. I just hope Drama Vortex gets his ass served again soon and just goes home. I liked his Nina outfit and partially his petstore look, but apart from that there’s just so much tackiness I can take.

      I shall save further deep discussion for the proper upcoming posts but:

      1 – DV, just because you weren’t born in the 70′s it’s understandable you don’t know anything about them? Bitch, please, that’s such a lame excuse and worse, it’s ignorance. Don’t whine about it like that, specially when they gave you an effing dossier.

      2 – Blenley didn’t win last challenge because Nina hates her? No, dear, it’s because your outfit was a mess, straight out of a butchery. Besides, the only reason you won a challenge was because AR was classy enough to tell the judges to give it to you instead of him…

    • Anonymous

      I couldn’t focus on anything Olivia Palermo said because I was too distracted by the complete immobility of her face.  She’s way too young to be that botoxed

      • Anonymous

        Is that what it was?  I kept thinking there was something weird about her face but I couldn’t put my finger on it.  I did like her judging though – very good comments.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, she has the knowledge to give good critiques, but boy does she NOT have “stage presence.” It was hard for me to focus when she was talking. Dead eyes, monotone voice. Ah, well, her career is not TV, so I give her a pass. ;-)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000317486855 Kathy Williamson

      This whole season has sucked.  I have not seen one exciting inspired design this year, top that off with a BORING show.  I DVR it and then just run through it. I am so tired of the whining and bickering I can’t stand to listen to it.    PR maybe on it’s way out if they don’t do something. 

      • Anonymous

        That’s exactly what I do!  I just cannot stomach Drama Vortex (LOVE that nickname) or all the other bullshit they go on with.  I just FF to the runway.  This season and last have only demonstrated how badly the show is being produced.  They have destroyed what was a great concept and a fun show.

    • Anonymous

      Loved the guest judge. She reminded me a bit of Rose Byrne. Her poker face during the runway show, and then her cute one liner about Josh’s pants made me laugh.

    • Anonymous

      Now with 6 left it’s time to start playing gues the final 3.  Clearly clinique counter and Blenley are left only for entertainment purposes.  

      Anya is definitely top 3.  SO, who among Hissing Viktor, bert, and Kimberly will be left.  I worry Kimberly is going under the bus next week.  But my final 3 would be anya, Viktor, and Kimberly. If Kimberly does go, it’ll come down to Bert/CC competing for the third spot, for max drama.  

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I’m hoping Kimberly goes — she seems like a nice person but I like Bert’s stuff better. 

      • Anonymous

        I agree it will be a Bert v. Josh showdown. I’m calling Bert over Josh, but Anya and Viktor are shoo-ins.

      • Anonymous

        If Josh gets in over Bert, I’m going to scream.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jessica-TallGirl-Freeman/1043623567 Jessica TallGirl Freeman

      I’m with you TLo….I totally knew the second Anya lost that money she was going to win it. Yawn. 

    • Anonymous

      Why are they keeping Bert around?  He’s the Queen of Boring.

    • http://twitter.com/lugia222 Matt

      Am I the only one amused that Piperlime is selling Anya’s garment for twice as much as Bert’s ($198 vs. $98), when both allegedly cost only $50 to make?

      • Anonymous

        Anya’s is made of silk…and a lot of it. I didn’t see the fabric for Bert’s. I’m assuming Anya’s workroom version wasn’t real silk.

      • Anonymous

        But Anya’s garment was blessed with her beautiful, humble, gossamer tears.  I bet that she produced buckets on demand for the Piperlime line.

        • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

          LOL oh that was excellent!

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I’d kill for the ability to cry like that.  I look like a blotchy gargoyle when I cry…

    • R. L.

      I miss the old days or P.R. when it was about the fashion too.  The days before Gretchen.  Will we never see another Seth Aaron or Irina Shabayeva?

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      Olivia Palermo was a  great judge. She should be on the show every week.

      • Anonymous

        Agree! Definitely not what I was expecting from the sponsor judging!

      • http://summerborn.livejournal.com/ Summer Born

        I thought she looked so sad. Every time her face was on screen, I struggled to find the right adjective for her: forlorn? Despondent? Regretful?

        • Toto Maya

          Those adjectives described me when watching this episode too. Don’t blame her.

    • Anonymous

      Question for you guys.  So I went over to the Lifetime site (boo, hiss) to see how the voting for fan favorite is going.  Anya has the most votes with Anthony Ryan a close second, with Anthony Ryan fans trying to get more votes.  All the other contestants have a weirdly low number of votes.    O.K., so my question is, since fashion week is over the reunion show had to have already taken place along with giving out the fan favorite check.  (Gag)  So…why are they still voting if it is all over?

    • Helen C

      I don’t get the “pretty people alway win” argument.  Kenley is so obviously HATED by the judges, and we all can admit she’s the prettiest girl in S5. 
      And in S6, the season of “pretty girls”, sour bitch Irina won. 
      And what about Jillian in S4?

      Olivier and Anthony Ryan are both pretty good looking too. 

      What it comes down is, Anya is a walking-breathing epitome of self-confidence.  She also makes clothes that looks pretty to the layman’s eyes upon first glance (and her fitting issues aren’t so obvious on TV).  She pretty much as a script of how she’s going to appear on TV.  No childish outbursts like Kenly, no sour bitchiness like Irina, or silently doing work like Jillian.  

      And I think it is time for anyone of Anthony Ryan/Laura/Kimberly to go.  None of them produced anything worthwhile for weeks.  AR and Laura are also so obviously “derivative”.  

      • http://www.tomandorenzo.com Tom and Lorenzo

        “I don’t get the “pretty people alway win” argument.”

        Probably because we didn’t make that argument.

        • Helen C

          “It’s simply this: people in fashion are naturally going to respond well to beautiful people. Kors, Klum and Garcia can’t help themselves; they’re always going to fall all over the pretty ones.”

          • http://www.tomandorenzo.com Tom and Lorenzo

            We can’t believe we have to point this out to you, but nowhere in that sentence does it say “pretty people always win.” It doesn’t even imply it.

      • Anonymous

        Anya is a one-woman charm bomb.

        • Anonymous

          Exactly. I’m not her biggest fan, but I fully admit that she’s articulate, she has a distinctive personal style, and she behaves in a mature and classy way on the runway. And whether or not she is truly humble, she gives a pretty damned good impression of humility.

    • Anonymous

      Kimberly gives the best “sides eyes” in recent memory.  But overall last night was the best “sides eyes” episode EVER! -LegionTonyL

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t have a problem AT ALL with the judging last night.

      Yes, Viktor’s outfit was the best on the runway but he was told from the beginning that the garment in question was supposed to be produced and sold by Piperlime, so he should have known that a YSL-inspired, highly tailored pant suit wasn’t going to cut it. They were given a VERY clear brief, exactly the sort of brief that they would get in the real world, and Viktor didn’t work to that brief.
      Both Bert and Anya’s looks fitted the brief perfectly -  70s inspired but up to date, bang on trend, visually appealing for an online store and easy for Piperlime to produce (easy in Anya’s case, because that’s all she knows how to make, and easy in Bert’s because he understood the brief PERFECTLY). Either could and should have won.  I personally wanted to see some version of Bert’s chiffon top for sale, I suspect the problem with that is that it depended so much on the beautiful fabric that it was expensive to produce. His second look was pretty, but oh so simple.  I don’t think they could fully give the win to that , although I can see why they would want to produce it too. As for the auf.  Both boys produced hideous, HIDEOUS clothes which showed absolutely no knowledge of the 70s which they should be ashamed if they consider themselves to be designers.  However, at least Josh TRIED to create something, a point which Nina acknowledged, rather than just pulling together (literally)  a horrendous plaid sack dress.  And also, though they claim not to look at body of work, Josh has done better stuff than Anthony Ryan over the season (at least in the judges eyes).  Yes, he provides the drama, but he’s also one of this season’s better designers (which says a lot about this season).  I get the feeling that the judges are finally on to him now though – with all the comments about lack of editing and inability to take criticism.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with you.  There’s no way Anya’s was the best design, but it fit the bill for Piperlime. Actually, I’d have been content with Bert’s in the winning slot, but . . . as TLo says, whatevs.

        And I agree with the aufing. Yes, AR is a nice guy, low-drama (and I did think he deserved his one win), and Josh is unpleasant. But Josh’s outfit, bad as it was (I can’t even picture his 2nd look right now, so I’m talking about pants & blouse), was an attempt at something. Something very wrong, but still. Anthony’s 1st look, on the other hand, was just terrible. That fabric! That skirt! That vest! That was a whole lot of ugly on one small girl. And his second look, which was not unlike Anya’s, had no life, no joy. The styling, the whole vibe – they did look like two boring (and very unhappy, possibly brainwashed or drugged) girls.

      • Anonymous

        Your point about the winning look needing to translate for online sales is valid.  In that framework, maybe I’m more pissed that the challenges are asking for cheap, easily reproduced garments with minimal cutting in factories rather than an inferior look getting the win.  But it all breaks down when you look at who got sent home.  AR’s look, while kinda shitty, was still more “online salable” than CC’s shitty pants with ugly tuxedo shirt tucked in with tacky leopard accessories. 

        I’m still blown away that the judges seemed surprised by Viktor’s consistently solid work. 

        • Toto Maya

          That’s how I feel. Anya’s was more appropriate to be sold on Piperlime, but why the hell do we have challenges like this that basically require the designers to make their garments as simple and cheap as possible? It’s stupid.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Because fashion is at least as much business as art, and it doesn’t matter HOW good you are at the art side if you can’t make sales.  Every major American designer has to grasp that point, so if you’re “searching for the next great American designer” you need to look for someone who can do sellable stuff as well as innovation.

            There’s a reason the most successful winner of this show has a downmarket shoe collection for Payless and his own cheap accessories site — those things bankroll his annual shows at Fashion Week and his celeb gowns.

        • Anonymous

          I agree with you to an extent. I think the top and bottom were judged on totally different criteria.  I bet the Piperlime lady said – these are the two looks we’re producing, make up a winning story for them –  and then had very little input into the auf.

    • Anonymous

      please, Anthony Ryan’s stuff has been blah and boring and occasionally ugly since the beginning.  None of these designers can hold a candle to past contestants.  Victor is the best on the show THIS SEASON, but would have not been anything special in seasons past.  It’s sad, but I just LLLLUUUUURRRRRVVVVVEEEE this show, so I will continue watching.  Am sort of excited for all-stars!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3NBI6646QJBKNCFEZNCHXUCBGE thatgirl

        are you kidding??? WAY excited for all-stars!! :)

        And I’m on the fence about project accessory…. I like the concept and I”m curoius about it, but I hate Kenneth Cole with such a firey passion that I’m not sure I can get past his presence on the show.

        • Anonymous

          You do realize that the all-stars show is being produced by the same rat-asses who have destroyed PR, right?  Yes, the talent level will be higher, but will the show be any better than the mess that BM has made?  I wonder.

          • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

            I don’t have the time nor the room on my DVR to add another B-M Lifetime show to my life. With just a few hours in the evening to watch TV, I’m deleting shows I actually enjoy. Can’t wait for this season of PR to end so I can put Picker Sisters back on the schedule. (Just kidding. Those two have set women’s lib back fifty years.)

    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      Oooh, Anya does a maxisomething with a halter neck. REALLY?!!!!!!   I’m so shocked that she was working out of her super narrow comfort zone.

    • http://heartprintandstyle.blogspot.com Vivi N

      “It’s Wendy Pepper over Austin Scarlett or Santino over Nick all over again.”
      I immediately thought of Vincent over Alison in Season 3. Still pisses me off till this very day.
      This was a great challenge and honesty, a great episode. Too bad the decisions made at the end ruined that pleasure for me. Like I said on Twitter, Anya is this Season’s pet. That whole “make a 2nd look” was definitely created for Anya to choose more fabric. That was my immediate thought as soon as Tim Gunn uttered those words. It was quite obvious. Predictable. I hate when producers think that the audience are so blinded by their love for the show that they can not see the obvious manipulations. 
      All I know is if I see Joshua sniffing the Top 3…I mean, first the Gretchen win and now Joshua with a legit chance of making it to the Finale? Oh hell to the no!

      • http://twitter.com/CestmoiLola CestmoiLola

        “I immediately thought of Vincent over Alison in Season 3. Still pisses me off till this very day.”

        Damn, I’m going to have to dig out all those CDs I burned of “Tim’s Take” and listening to Tim be totally exasperated by Vincent’s antics. Tim did exasperated and bitchy so well that season.

        • Anonymous

          I miss Tim’s podcasts!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3NBI6646QJBKNCFEZNCHXUCBGE thatgirl

      I actually really enjoyed this episode. If they had auf’d Josh as they should have (I literally covered my eyes every time they showed one of his pieces) I would have called this as a perfect episode. The maxi dress didn’t COMPLETELY suck ass (a different print and it would have been awesome… if very similiar to a dress that MK has in his collection) but the “I Hate The 80′s” ….. outfit was atrocious. It hurt my eyes to look at it.

      Did they manipulate it so Anya could take the win? They sure did. But, credit wheere it’s due, she made a kick-ass outfit for 12 dollars. Do I wish they would have just given the win to Bert? Absolutely. But he’s safe, and to my mind, that’s what matters.

      Anthony Ryan was amongst my favorites in personality, but none of his pieces ever really made me go, “Wow.” His mixing of prints was also offensive to my eye, and I understand why the judges sent him home (both from a design perspective and a producer-induced drama perspective.) Like you said TLo, this has been happening since season 1- I’m not surprised. It’s part of the “joy” that is Project Runway, and all in all, I enjoyed last nights episode. I called it within the first few minutes tht AR would go home…. so yes, it’s a bit predictable. But it’s still entertaining as hell for me to watch.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AIQJKUWFMABQ4O7A7J5TLMN6OU Ella B.

      I’ve reached the level of cynicism that I think Anya was planted in the show by the producers with a made-up story.  The reason she seems talented and saavy is because she is — but inexperienced she is not.  The judges know they are supposed to like her, and thus, the fawing.  However, whether your believe my conspiracy theory or not, the Anya storyline could be seen as insulting to people in the industry — that an inexperienced, barely-trained person could kick the butts of people who are trained and have worked in the industry.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I don’t see that it’s insulting if it’s true.  What’s wrong with being good just because you’re untrained?  Every art has its savants — people who came out of nowhere and challenged the norms.  Now, granted, I don’t think Anya’s anywhere near THAT good, but still…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Martin/286107241 John Martin

      But thank god this wasn’t another stiltwalking farce of a challenge, for the most part there weren’t any strange constraints or vague instructions to blame. 

      P.S. Josh WAS born yesterday and so doesn’t even know there was a “70′s” 

      p.s.s. piperline lady was an obvious Mean Gurl…mean (gossip) girl

      p.s.s.s. I’m also glad Bert has chilled out some even if laura doesn’t get his hilarious jokes

    • Anonymous

      My nickname for Anya is “Anya the Brain” it comes from an episode of the old MTV cartoon, Daria, called “Quinn the Brain”  Sample dialog:

      Daria:  Her writing is bad!  Don’t people know the difference between good and bad?
      Jane:  She’s cute.  There’s different standards for cute people.
      Daria:  You mean no standards!
      Jane:  Right.
      Daria:  Isn’t there ever a time when appearance doesn’t matter?
      Jane:  When you donate an organ.  Unless it’s your eyes.

    • Anonymous

      Hate to say it, but I disagree with TLo on this one.   This show has always cared more about design and concepts that execution.  Bad execution has always been said for bad designs and bad executions; they’ve always overlooked bad execution when there’s an idea behind it that can be seen.  I really like Anya’s stuff.  She definitely doesn’t have the sewing
      skills, but she does have the ideas and executes her ideas enough to
      give people the idea that she was going for.  I LOVE the print for those
      pants, and I love the concept for the top.  I can see where she was
      going, and I would buy a better executed version of that top in a heart
      beat.  I don’t like jumpsuits, but the winning look is on trend and in a
      great fabric.

      I don’t remember Viktor’s look; I had to go to the website to look at it. It’s a well-tailored suit and a dress.  It’s nice, but slightly boring.  I normally like his stuff, but this week, blegh.

       

      • Anonymous

        I’m with you. I loved Anya’s looks, and her victory over Vicktor (no pun intended) had more to do, I’m sure, with ease of construction from a manufacturing standpoint and online saleability than it did design. Ironically, if Viktor had not made that jacket (which I loved), he might have won. Huh. But they couldn’t put up the look without the jacket, could they?  I don’t think a designer necessarily has to be good at sewing (although it certainly helps, and you do have to know how clothes are put together). I was happy to see my favorite three in the top for once.

        • Anonymous

          On the extended judging, MK talked to Viktor about how all designers struggle with the point that sometimes you spend a lot of time on a garment and it’s beautiful and well executed, but it just doesn’t “fit.” And that learning to stand back and edit your work is important. It was pretty thoughtful and interesting.

    • Anonymous

      Am I the only one who thinks Anthony Ryan’s second look is very reminiscent of a lot of Gretchen’s looks from last season? This type of look helped her win the competition, yet it got AR auf’d. Go figure.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        There’s actually some justification for that — if it was on trend a year ago, it’s possibly outdated now.  (Not to say that’s what actually happened in this case, but one could make the argument)

    • Anonymous

      I was thinking that about Anya as well.  I can totally believe they suddenly added the second look (with no reason or justification) in order to give Anya a second chance at glory.  I don’t mind her at all, but she’s hardly in a league with Jay or Leanne or Christian or, hell, even Chloe.

      The show has gotten so predictable I am pretty sure we already have our Final Three:  Anya, Viktor and Josh.  Viktor will make it on merit, and they’re so clearly going out of their way to try and forge some artificial rivalry between him and Madame Tussaud that the vortex will suck its way into the finale.  It’s simply easier for them to manufacture “drama” with him involved.

      • Anonymous

        I couldn’t agree more. It was very clear last night that Laura will not make the finale. Laura or Kimberley will be the next to go. 

        • Anonymous

          Oh yeah, forgot Bert as well.  No doubt they will pull the obligatory “You’re all so good we couldn’t DECIDE!” and send four of them to Lincoln Center.

      • http://twitter.com/yankeefoxtrot Alex McGeagh

        BWA HA HA HAAAA! Madame Tussaud. I think I like that even better than Miss Clinique Counter…

    • http://onionjam.tumblr.com SkipperJane

      Popped over to PiperLime and what is interesting is the change they made to Bert’s dress.  Namely, the wonderful full-cover silver caps on the belt have been replaced with what are likely less expensive silver slip-covers with visible nots on the belt.  It definitely makes the whole affair look cheaper.  

      • Anonymous

        That’s so interesting, considering how much Olivia talked about those silver ends. You’d think that they’d edit that out if it didn’t relate to the final product.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M2PXKBMV7NJBBEXEL2KHAO2UU4 Martha Stickle

      Well-done, per usual.

    • Courtney St.Julian

      The Germans have a word for what I feel as I read this post and the comments in response: Schadenfreude. I swore off PR after last year’s Gretchen debacle. So glad I made that choice, as this show has gone from bad to worse. Someone, please, SAVE TIM GUNN!

    • Now I am The Bee

      I am becoming cynical as well.  The manipulation of the outcomes and contestants has never been worse.  And–I frankly don’t care anymore, which makes me very sad and nostalgic for the old days of PR.  I actually used to defend my watching of PR because it wasn’t just a “Survivor-type” show where people can BS their way to the top.  They needed to have creativity and skills and ingenuity in completing challenges. 
      That seems to be all gone.  I almost bought that Anya lost her cash, but the sudden announcement, out of the blue and with no other explanation than it had to be “one piece”, nailed it for me.  They did it for Anya. 
      I am acrimonious. 

      Not sorry to see AJ go with his looks.  They were just awful. I thought Josh’s were worse, but when the judges are presented with one boring look and one wacky look, they always let the boring one go.

    • Anonymous

      I was surprised that there were so many maxi-dresses on the runway.  Is that because they’re on-trend now?  I lived through the 70s and, while I had one maxi-dress, I had only one and it doesn’t stand out to me as one of the defining themes of the decade.  The one I had — Josh should appreciate this — was hot pink, with little flowers, a belt in some shockingly contrasting color, a ruffled bottom and high ruffled neck.  Parlor game – which post-70s film best captures the fashions of the time?  My nominee is Dazed and Confused.  It took me right back to high school.

      • Now I am The Bee

        Yeah me too.  Maxi-dresses were in no way “sophisticated”, and they were gone by 1974-75.  Once Phyllis on TMTM show was wearing one, all the young folks moved on to disco clothes! 

        • Anonymous

          Yes, Phyllis! That was totally my reference for maxi dresses. :-D

      • Anonymous

        I thought kind of the same thing.
        I recall that when I was at 8th grade graduation 1975 – I was still wearing mini skirts (not micro or with the hot pants underneath).  I remember that over the next few years the other girls were going to “maxis”  but  they were definitely not this long or floor length.  In fact I believe it was 1978 or so when some boys passed notes to me to thank me for still wearing shorter skirts – because I had good legs and because most of the girls were wearing jeans or long skirts. 

        But I did buy two maxi dresses for this summer so I guess they might be “in”  But more likely I’d have thought it was on the way out since I got those dresses at TJ Maxx and Ross.  (Although both wee very cute and what a bargain.) 

    • Anonymous

      I’m really disappointed Anthony didn’t have a line like “I haven’t gotten news this bad since I got cancer!”

      • Anonymous

        To be fair, he did manage to drop a line about how fashion got him through a bad period, or something to that effect.  I am a bit sorry he wasn’t a better designer, as he was kind of entertaining without going the bitch route, cancer story or no.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PMAPJYMO5AC6GMONR6NQFURAXE bebo

      Both winning looks reminded me of the things my sister would sew from patterns when she was learning to sew. Vey basic.

      • Anonymous

        Glad I heard it from someone else. Everyone’s talking about how unworthy Anya was (and I agree), but Bert’s winning look is about a simple as a dress can possibly be. If he had done the back the same as the front, there wouldn’t be a single design element on that dress.

    • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

      Well aside from the construction of the front of the top, I really liked Anya’s outfits, ESPECIALLY compared to the rest of them. It was a shittastic display of design once again last night. 

      • Anonymous

        Maybe my talent meter is out of whack since last week’s fringe disaster, but it was better than I expected.

    • Anonymous

      I am an older (57 – even though it really doesn’t matter) fan of PR. I’ve spent a portion of my adult life designing and making wedding gowns or children’s clothes.  Enjoyed PR because, in my view, any creative process is more about execution than design. Fun to watch the process.  Last night, I chose to watch Grey’s Anatomy instead. I don’t regret it.

    • Anonymous

      Forgive me if this was already suggested a million comments ago, but I actually think they added the second challenge not to save Anya’s butt (they were going to like Miss Plucky’s $11 outfit better than Anthony or Joshua’s monstrosity anyway) but because the producer faeries lurking in the background saw that they weren’t going to get anything remotely Piperlimeable the first go-around. They figured if they added an additional task for $50 and no time, they weren’t going to get anything too complicated to manufacture. The contestants seemed suspiciously calm when they got the news–as if they already knew what was coming.

      • Anonymous

        I thought the same thing. I thought many of the second outfits were better then the first. And with only $50 to spend, they would be far less complicated to reproduce for Piperlime.

        • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

          I agree, for what it’s worth.

      • Anonymous

        I agree especially when neither of the outfits chosen to sell on Piperlime were from the original $100 challenge which makes a farce of the overall challenge. Then again, what else should we expect from PR these days. 

      • Anonymous

        I’m wagering on a combo of the two. I see the back room where the producers and directors are watching what is going on and saying “They couldn’t make and sell this easily” and one pipes up and says, “We could give them a $50 challenge with hardly any time and it would also give us something marketable, plus it would our beloved Anya a second chance!” They all nod their heads in unison and call Tim up to come make the announcement.

      • Anonymous

        You guys make me understand the role of the producers better–I was not clear before reading posts and TLo what the job entailed and the kind of influence they have.  Now I get it.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Not just $50 and no time, but with the requirement it be one piece — which means it really can’t be too complicated.

    • scottyf

      Per a fabulous suggestion in last night’s TLOunge by tonibaloney:

      The Duchess’ New Uniform

      • Anonymous

        Wow. The Duchess has nice tits. Who knew?

        • scottyf

          I think that’s why he always wears the t-shirt and blazer: he doesn’t want to upstage Heidi.

      • Anonymous

        Almost spewed mango ice tea on keyboard. Well done!

      • Anonymous

        looks great on him…. just his color! the print looks great with his orange glow!

      • Anonymous

        Looks like he’s on stilts.

    • http://www.facebook.com/eujoyuen Eugenia Joyuen

      I’m Team Viktor now for the finale win. Who’s with me?

      • Anonymous

        I can Live with that!

    • Anonymous

      How in the name of FUCK did Kimberly’s garment beat Anthony Ryan’s. The reason my brain is imploding right now isn’t entirely because I’m the biggest Anthony Ryan stan on the face of the earth and I’m kind of still squinting at the screen through my tears, but KIMBERLY’S HAD A FUCKING HOLE IN IT AND HER MODEL’S BOOBS WERE AT HER BELLY BUTTON.

      WHY. WHY WHY WHY. 

      • Anonymous

        I kind of agree but won’t go into speculation, but only offer condolences on your loss.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Better question:  HOW WAS SHE PLANNING TO SELL THAT FREAKING TOP IN THE FIRST LOOK?!?  “The top is flattering because it’s so flowing”  BUT HER STOMACH IS EXPOSED! 

        As someone who makes clothes, the #1 request I hear is to hide a tummy (real or imagined).  I mean, I’m fine with a midriff top, but how in god’s name did she think it was going to be wearable by a lot of women?!?

    • http://summerborn.livejournal.com/ Summer Born

      I *like* Anya. I have liked her from the beginning, and I think she puts together some great looks. I suppose she *could* be planning every single thing that happens to her in a calculated attempt to garner more points from the judges, but I don’t see it. Maybe it’s the editing. I don’t know why so many people are upset about her winning – her second look was pretty awesome for the challenge. Viktor’s was cute and well made, but I agreed with the judges that it wasn’t the best for this particular challenge. It’s a “make for production” challenge as TLo pointed out. So why all the Anya-hate? I think she’s great and puts together great looks. Those are good things! IF you add to that the fact that she’s not bitchy towards the other contestants, not arrogant or full of herself, and not cluelessly deluded into thinking she’s entitled *cough*Gretchen*cough* (on all 3 counts), it makes her the easy pick to cheer for, as evidenced by her lead in the “vote for your favorite” contest on Lifetime’s website.

    • http://twitter.com/nanipoo Ilana Frome

      With this post I’ve officially moved to not watching episodes and only reading your recaps.  I just can’t watch this producer-manipulated swill any longer.

    • http://stitchingincircles.etsy.com Tina

      ugh. Seriously. I am so fed up with this! I think I am going to skip watching it from now on and just read the recaps you post. I have watched this religiously since season 2, but this season has finally turned me off. Shark. Jumped.

      • Anonymous

        Shark, jumped, beat to death, and eaten for sushi!

    • Anonymous

      The only bright spot in the entire episode was Bert’s explanation of how he got his, ahem, Halston job. 
      I’m not at all surprised it went over idiot Laura’s head.

      • Anonymous

        His face! He was positively lit up with mischief! It was possibly the most expressive moment he’s had all season.

      • Anonymous

        That was hilarious! The little twinkle in his eye and his giant smile as he said it! Made me smile and laugh…in a good way, for once. I seem to laugh at PR all the time now, but it’s usually to express my horror at how bad the show has become.

      • http://twitter.com/yankeefoxtrot Alex McGeagh

        Hahaha! that was one of my favorite parts of the episode. He looked so mischievously gleeful. Loved it. And Laura totally didn’t get it. So funny.

      • Anonymous

        And where is Scottyf this morning to respond??

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/dLUE.9h6zdoHMLprP6AQrSQpKt0CZys-#e58b4 tom

      What really strikes me this season is the caliber of talent the contestants possess, medicore at best.  They’re  so many folks out there with far more talent than this group has shown.  If you think about it what have you seen this season that made you say “I want it or gotta have it”.  I realize that the show needs to be entertaining but certainly you can be creative and have a personality likeable or not, something that would stand out .  When I’ve read the comments there are several common threads; not original copied X, “what were they thinking.”, poor execution and fit, been there done that.  It’s really a shame that the show doesn’t give a chance to showcase the really talented but currently unknown would be designers.  For every Precious Moments, Bert, or Anya there is some better.

      • Anonymous

        Well said! None of these folks or their designs are memorable in a good way……..

    • Anonymous

      god am i that naive to think anya wouldnt win?  i didnt like the jumpsuit at all, it reminds me of clown pants.  then TLO reminds that it is not about fashion its a game show.  kinda sad really.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Clown pants is right. As it is, I’m biased against jumpsuits, but that thing is a monstrosity. I really like her first look, though. If she had to win, she should have won for that.

        But the producers wanted something that was one piece and easy to produce. There were other things that would have fit their criteria – Bert’s top from his first look, or his dress; Viktor’s pants, or maybe his jacket. Any of those pieces could have justifiably won. Actually, Anya’s first look could have been turned into a jumpsuit. I would understand that a lot more than her winning for the jumpsuit she made. For that matter, turn that ugly-ass jumpsuit into a dress. I love the fabric, but the garment itself is just not attractive.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I like the idea of jumpsuits, but I can’t get behind the practicality of a garment that requires I strip naked in a public bathroom because I need to pee… I want to love them, because it seems like it would have the ease of dressing that a dress gives me without the worrying about my bruised legs (I run into stuff… a lot), but in the end, I can never get past the bathroom thing.

          (Though I was very impressed by a girl at a friend’s party one day who was wearing a strapless romper with a thick belt that had, like, 10 buckle bits on it — she must not have drank anything all day…  That’s commitment to clothes.  She also wore 6 inch stiletto platforms to walk on grass and didn’t stumble once.  I was in awe.)

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            I’m with you 100%. The need to pee is always going to keep the jumpsuit from being a big thing.

            I’ve met girls like the one you mentioned. I don’t know how they do it. It is indeed awe inspiring.

            I think Anya is one of those girls. She’s blessed with the ability to make everything look easy, and she has charisma to spare. And I can’t hold that against her.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I keep trying to find a way to make one open (like on baby clothes) that will lay nicely and be unnoticeable and not ridiculous, but I haven’t thought of anything yet….

    • Anonymous

      I do miss the magical elves.  I know you are fashion bloggers, but the Top Chef series have been insanely creative and loads of fun to watch.  SO much better than PR! Even Top Chef Masters which I thought would be too hard to pull off.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1037970711 Ed Hawkins

      “Now pack up your testicle and go.”

      • Anonymous

        Rude.

    • Anonymous

      Also, the skirt A.R. made for this challenge, literally, was the same skirt he made for the first challenge, which the judges s’d his d for. I’m not saying it’s a good thing. It’s really a terrible thing to make the same skirt twice in a design competish, especially when the skirt was kind of fugs both times. It just goes to show how fickle and ridiculous the judges are being, producer manip or not. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        HOT PANTS.  It’s a 70s challenge, your look needs something shorter than the pencil skirt you envisioned, WHY OH WHY would you do a mini when you could do HOT PANTS?  So much more acceptable to the judges in that instance.

        (Also unclear on why Anya didn’t consider the same thing for her first look since she was woefully short on materials)

    • Anonymous

      You may think Olivia Palermo was a good judge but I couldn’t get past why someone who’s supposed to be an arbiter of good taste and chic demeanor would say things like “I would have CHOSE to do…”  I heard she was a socialite – from where? Brooklyn?!

      • Anonymous

        Ooh–classism rears its not pretty head.  What is wrong with a socialite from Brooklyn?  I’m not even very familiar with New York and I find this to be an oddly offensive comment!

      • Anonymous

        Ooh–classism rears its not pretty head.  What is wrong with a socialite from Brooklyn?  I’m not even very familiar with New York and I find this to be an oddly offensive comment!

        • Helen C

          There are a bunch of “grew up in midwest suburbs but moved to NYC at age 30 and consider themselves lifelong New Yorkers” type on this board.  The cracked up Carrie Brashaws.  And their favorite hobby is to put down suburbs and other boroughs.  

      • Anonymous

        There was one critique — I think it was during Josh’s — where she made up about six words. She literally is the dumbest individual on the planet but because she has this weird affectation where she talks like she can’t move her jaw, she doesn’t sound that dumb. 

      • Anonymous

        I noticed that too, and I cringed.  She also said “enrichen”, which…no.  I could’ve sworn she also said “PiperliNe” at one point, but it was late and I was tired, so I may’ve been way off there.

        • Anonymous

          “Enrichen” made my sister and me laugh and laugh and laugh. It was like a Simpsons “embiggen” moment.

    • http://michjeff-quiltersparadise.blogspot.com/ Michelle Young

      Oh, I so agree with everyone.  I have been missing Tim in the sewing room, there is no model drama, no decent fights between the contestants, and the challenges have been so lame!!!  I am only watching on TIVO now and then immediately reading T Lo.  That is now the most fun thing to do. 

    • Anonymous

      Yes–You could see Bert listening to the commentary and thinking how whacked the whole thing was….

    • Kate Pearce

      Anthony Ryan just seemed to have lost his mojo somewhere along the line so I wasn’t surprised to see him go. 
      My issue with this ‘make a look we can mass produce for as little as possible’ thing is that it goes against the whole idea of it being a design show for high-fashion. The judges spend hours telling people not to produce stuff that is from ‘the mall’ and then have a challenge where that’s what they basically want the designers to give them. 
      But I get it. Viktor’s was the best made, Bert’s was lovely too, but Anya’s one piece three seams is the easiest to mass produce.

      • Anonymous

        And this isn’t even the first of the season that’s been design-for-the-masses. We already have to sit through the horrible Design for Heidi’s athletic-wear each season. And then there was the design-for-my-wife-who-wants-her-old-off-the-rack-dress challenge too that might as well be the same thing.

    • Joyce VG

      I gasped when Anya won.  She sure is purty though.

    • Anonymous

      That picture of Heidi wearing Anya’s dress on AOL is hysterical–I *just* commented yesterday that I didn’t think she could look bad in anything, but that picture actually makes the dress look so much worse by making Heidi look bad.

    • Carolyn Velez

      Lifetime has killed PR in my opinion. I’m done after this season and I’m not sure I’ll make it through the to end of this one. I used to love this show but it feels like any bit of integrity it might have had in presenting itself as a serious fashion competition was drained away by Lifetime. I don’t care who wins because I already know it won’t be based on the work. If I wanted to watch reality TV for the obvious manipulation and manufactured drama I’d watch the Housewives. I will ALWAYS love TLo though. :)

    • Carolyn Velez

      Lifetime has killed PR in my opinion. I’m done after this season and I’m not sure I’ll make it through the to end of this one. I used to love this show but it feels like any bit of integrity it might have had in presenting itself as a serious fashion competition was drained away by Lifetime. I don’t care who wins because I already know it won’t be based on the work. If I wanted to watch reality TV for the obvious manipulation and manufactured drama I’d watch the Housewives. I will ALWAYS love TLo though. :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colleen-Robinson/48606025 Colleen Robinson

      I have lost so much interest in this show. Last night I got back about half an hour into the episode and my mom was watching it. This is normally where I would cover my ears and quickly run past the TV so nothing is spoiled for me. Instead, I just shrugged and sat down to do a crossword puzzle while half-listening. The runway show? Yawn. The only looks that really interested me were Victor’s

      And I am so over Anya. As far as I’m concerned she should have gone home last week when her pants were ripping apart at the seams.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colleen-Robinson/48606025 Colleen Robinson

      I have lost so much interest in this show. Last night I got back about half an hour into the episode and my mom was watching it. This is normally where I would cover my ears and quickly run past the TV so nothing is spoiled for me. Instead, I just shrugged and sat down to do a crossword puzzle while half-listening. The runway show? Yawn. The only looks that really interested me were Victor’s

      And I am so over Anya. As far as I’m concerned she should have gone home last week when her pants were ripping apart at the seams.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know if I like her but I agree that she has a terrific eye for beautiful prints.  Both of her looks seemed very pretty and effortless in style, and are just naturally appealing. 

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know if I like her but I agree that she has a terrific eye for beautiful prints.  Both of her looks seemed very pretty and effortless in style, and are just naturally appealing. 

    • Anonymous

      UGH I cannot keep lifetime on for any longer than it takes to watch the last 30-40 minutes of PR.  It is so revolting!  I actually make sure to grab the remote and change channels to anything else as soon as PR is over.  I don’t want to have my life ruined by accidentally watching dance moms!

    • Anonymous

      UGH I cannot keep lifetime on for any longer than it takes to watch the last 30-40 minutes of PR.  It is so revolting!  I actually make sure to grab the remote and change channels to anything else as soon as PR is over.  I don’t want to have my life ruined by accidentally watching dance moms!

    • http://twitter.com/Cakewalk_Queen Lauren Cooper

      I think Anya would be around even if she set a model on fire. That would make GREAT tv. *rollseyes*

      • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986?hl=en&tab=h Judy S

        My thought: last week we would have said “she would have won even if she lost all her money and had to make the look out of muslin…”

    • http://twitter.com/Cakewalk_Queen Lauren Cooper

      I think Anya would be around even if she set a model on fire. That would make GREAT tv. *rollseyes*

    • Anonymous

      I can’t do it either, I can’t read through all the comments, 236 already, I can’t hiss and rail and piss and wail.
      Thanks for the reminder that this is nothing but a Game Show.

      My husband called Anthony out, not on the basis of Fashion, but on his Low-Key Non-Drama Personality. (And he don’t know nuthin bout Fashion.)

      Anya is Teachers Pet. The Producers have a Written Script as far as I’m concerned. Anya is no Uli. Wish they could have gone head to head. With the Magical Elves/Bravo. Because who knows how Bunim-Murray/Lifetime would have treated our truly talented gal.
      I just has a sad:(((((

    • Anonymous

      I can’t do it either, I can’t read through all the comments, 236 already, I can’t hiss and rail and piss and wail.
      Thanks for the reminder that this is nothing but a Game Show.

      My husband called Anthony out, not on the basis of Fashion, but on his Low-Key Non-Drama Personality. (And he don’t know nuthin bout Fashion.)

      Anya is Teachers Pet. The Producers have a Written Script as far as I’m concerned. Anya is no Uli. Wish they could have gone head to head. With the Magical Elves/Bravo. Because who knows how Bunim-Murray/Lifetime would have treated our truly talented gal.
      I just has a sad:(((((

    • Anonymous

      Ugh, I can’t stand this show anymore.  The producer-Anya love fest is downright ridiculous and so obvious.  They’re not even trying to hid it now.  Once she lost her money, I KNEW she was going to win.  Also, I didn’t see Anthony Ryan getting Aufed.  Not as much of a loser edit as others, I think.  Kind of weird.  And when it was down to the bottom three, I was so hoping Laura would be out but as soon as she was safe, I knew it was all over for Anthony Ryan.  No way would the producers let the judges get rid of Joshua.  Ugh, hate hate hate this whole thing.  I started out kind of indifferent towards Anthony Ryan but he definitely grew on me.  Sure, he’s not the best designer, but he had some good ideas and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy.  Didn’t think he would make it to Fashion Week but man, how the hell are Josh and Laura still here over him?  If either of those two make it to Fashion Week, I’m going to scream.

      Also, how much does anyone want to bet that for the last challenge before Fashion Week, with four designers left, if Anya turns out something absolutely hiddy, the judges will be like, “JUST KIDDING, all four of you are going to Fashion Week!!!”

      • Anonymous

         I totally agree- there was NO loser edit on Anthony Ryan, which was why I feel like I just got hit by a sixteen wheeler. Totally didn’t see it coming.

    • Anonymous

      Ugh, I can’t stand this show anymore.  The producer-Anya love fest is downright ridiculous and so obvious.  They’re not even trying to hid it now.  Once she lost her money, I KNEW she was going to win.  Also, I didn’t see Anthony Ryan getting Aufed.  Not as much of a loser edit as others, I think.  Kind of weird.  And when it was down to the bottom three, I was so hoping Laura would be out but as soon as she was safe, I knew it was all over for Anthony Ryan.  No way would the producers let the judges get rid of Joshua.  Ugh, hate hate hate this whole thing.  I started out kind of indifferent towards Anthony Ryan but he definitely grew on me.  Sure, he’s not the best designer, but he had some good ideas and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy.  Didn’t think he would make it to Fashion Week but man, how the hell are Josh and Laura still here over him?  If either of those two make it to Fashion Week, I’m going to scream.

      Also, how much does anyone want to bet that for the last challenge before Fashion Week, with four designers left, if Anya turns out something absolutely hiddy, the judges will be like, “JUST KIDDING, all four of you are going to Fashion Week!!!”

    • Anonymous

      Not a big Anya fan here, but did anybody else think that Josh found Anya’s money and ditched it somewhere?   He was remarkably drama free and looked blank and guilty when Tim was talking to everyone about it. 

      • Anonymous

        Nah. I think he and Anthony Ryan were too wrapped up in their weird girl-crushes on her to risk getting caught doing something like that. 

        • Anonymous

          Right — from almost the first episode he has been all air-kissy with her. He might not have a problem alienating everyone else — but a true beauty queen? Oh he’s on her side and would fight tooth and nail in her defense.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Only until he can stab her in the back — part of the fun of being a beauty queen (in the mind of one like the Drama Vortex, not in reality as I don’t know any beauty queens to compare to the urban legend of them) would be the catty betrayals, and the only reason Josh would want a real-life queen is so he could have a real-life beauty queen throwdown!

      • Anonymous

        I’m with you on this one LANDRU3000, but I thought it was Laura who picked it up and maybe just maybe Josh saw her do it. Producer manipulation went over my head…..stay tuned????

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002673395871 Roadkill Writer’s Camp

      I just don’t understand the rapture over Anya’s dress print, which reads off-register, like something Cathy would wear in a comic strip class reunion. Also don’t get Nina positively gushing over Anya’s ability to pull victory from the jaws of defeat. Did I miss some earlier MacGyver moments, or is it just about her ability to sew even though she can’t? Her oft-stated deficit has grown to mythical proportions.  

      Anthony’s designs were confused, for sure, but there’s no way that Anya’s winning outfit outstripped his caftan by that many orders of magnitude. Not crazy about the way he used his prints, though didn’t hate the caftan fabric. And incredibly, he did achieve a color bridge to his looks. They were not the worst.

      (Since beauty is a factor, here’s hoping it works for Kimberly, who in one close-up last night was literally breathtaking. Largely drama-free of course, but a great presence and occasional glimpses of actual design talent.)  

      • Helen C

        Kimberly has a killer body.  But low-key pretty girls don’t get attentions.  Remember Jillian or the girls of S6?  

        • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

          Did you notice Kimberley’s legs when she did the high kick in the New Balance challenge???  Amazing.  She seems nice and professional, which unfortunately just isn’t enough for camera face time.  Probably why Viktor’s not getting much screen time either.  

    • http://twitter.com/herong Heron

      I didn’t even stick around to watch the results, I was so bored by this episode.  I kept thinking back to Chris March, whom I loved, and who made the largest-shoulder-padded outfits of any queen on this damn show.  BRING BACK THE COSTUMERS!!  Damn this catering to the Lifetime-watching audiences.  We know the demographic overlaps substantially, so just bring back the FUN. 

      • Anonymous

        You hit it. There is no FUN on the show any more.

    • Kyle Crawford

      Halston THE SKIMP… not to be overly bitchy , because I like Bert , but… when does it become copying ?? ( go to Piperlime and watch his interview with the Piperlime person ) http://coutureallure.blogspot.com/2010/02/halstons-skimp-1974.html

      • Anonymous

        Since Bert worked for Halston in the seventies, maybe it is not a stretch to actually say that was his original design?

    • Anonymous

      I’m always going to love watching the creative process, but B/M does not know when to quit when it comes to producer games.  I’ll wave the possibility that Anya actually lost her money, but there’s no way I’d believe that the second challenge wasn’t intended to get Anya out of that hole. There was no design point to having a second look.  

      Bert was screwed over on the win–Viktor and Josh split a win–but somehow Bert whose dress PL wants to actually sell doesn’t merit a shared win?  

      Am with TLo that Viktor’s outfits were to expensive to mass-produce.  That sort of thing happens consistently in these kind of challenges–it’s not the best outfit, but the best of the easily manufactured outfits that win–Bert knew that.  (And having survived the 70s, he was the guy who actually got the time period.)

      I think Anthony’s colorblindness finally did him in–in brighter colors, his stuff would have worked better.  Not that Josh shouldn’t have gone HOME.

    • Anonymous

      Anya is an Uli-wannabe. She seems to be a one or two trick pony, but she’s got someone in production in her pocket. I agree with you- it’s near impossible to get worked up over the show this season. It’s just gotten tired. And tiresome.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with you that Anya doesn’t have a lot of versatility, and that in any other season that would be a liability (along with her disadvantages in sewing ability). However, with such a tremendous lack of talent this season, I’m willing to overlook her faults because she at least makes pretty looks that someone would want to wear. Unfortunately, she is among the cream of the crop for this bunch — which goes to show you how shallow the talent pool is.

    • Lori

      “You’ve managed to take the two people who are probably the most engaged with this show and left them bored with your silliness and completely uninterested in the final outcome.”

      This says it all, really.

    • Anonymous

      I agree that the judges do overpraise Anya, and she might be competition-savvy, but manipulative and some kind of seaon-long evil genius? No way. The wild conjecture being articulated here are a bit ridiculous. Like, she didn’t cry ENOUGH so obviously she squirreled the money away — in collusion with producers/cameramen, who conveniently don’t have footage? She has some kind of time-turner that allows her to scope and price an array of bolts of fabric as she shops for supplies during each challenge? And sure, she’s attractive, but she doesn’t overly play up her looks… quite the opposite, considering her minimal makeup and casual hair. Compare to high-maintenance Laura! She can’t help it if fashion people favor pretty people. If it was just “prettiness wins” then why is MK so hard on Josh? (and other past pretty designers haven’t had the world handed to them, either.) OK you don’t like her, fine, but don’t let your emotional investment in this TV show make you some kind of tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theorist!
      Myself, I think the win decision had everything to do with merchandising and production costs. Viktor’s beautiful clothes would just have been too complicated and expensive for Piperlime to bother with. The winning pieces were the simplest. The judging criteria were spelled out pretty clearly from the start. Seriously, sometimes the most obvious solution is correct.

    • Anonymous

      MY EYES!

    • Susan Crawford

      It’s amazing to me that not ONE of the designers knew enough about the 70′s era to choose a jersey or light-weight knit fabric at Mood, or that none of them referenced the folkloric influences that ran through the decade. But that being said, the saddest thing of all is how little real fashion history most of them know, with the exception of Bert and Viktor. So I was thrilled when Viktor blew Miss Clinique out of the water so scathingly – he was absolutely RIGHT to call Dramarama on this.

      And Viktor’s designs should have won, but they were too complex to mass produce at a good price point, I suppose. I thought it was fascinating that Tim actually shared with Barbie Dolly that NinahGahcia had her claws out for her. Tim has given designers tips in the past about certain design features and styles that the judges like or dislike in their work, but I don’t remember him ever telling a contestant that a judge had a “thing” against a contestant on a more personal level. (Another Project Runway first?!)

      Bert captured a bit of the 70′s dicso cray-cray, and managed to reference the pared-down Halston aesthetic quite well, although I wouldn’t have given the second dress such love as the judges did. Kimberly sent an unfinished piece down the runway, with a badly fitted second look, and she was safe? Ohhhh-kay.  Joshua was in so far over his head that all the backstory and “I believe in my work” attitude in the world couldn’t justify those two dreadful, badly constructed schmattas. (And Heidi, the word is not German – it’s Yiddish. Or Garmento-speak.) Barbie Dolly’s designs were badly thought-out, and definitely did NOT echo any of the major design elements of 70′s fashion, despite her self-proclaimed understanding of vintage. They just looked cheap and low-rent.

      A.R. – his designs were droopy and limp and sorta sad and without energy, and the 70′s were nothing if not free and fanciful and a bit eccentric. The maxi he did had potential, but the skirt needed more fullness and flow, and that neutral shoulder treatment made the top look dragged down. But I will definitely miss him – he has a way to go to sharpen up his skills, but I think he will find his way and I really feel he should NOT have been aufed. Joshua should have gone, or Barbie Dolly.  When the judges announced the winner – I gasped. When A.R. was aufed, I gasped again. But as T Lo said, why get my panties in a twist over the show?

      Anya has obviously got the producers, the judges and a lot of viewers right where she wants them, and that’s that. She will be in the final three (along with Viktor and a wild-card third choice) and that’s that. She’s willowy and beautiful; she has great personal style; she has drama and makes for good reality TV – and the judges are on crack again. Somewhere in the badlands of fashion, Wretchen is preparing a guest room in the Hoo-Hoo Hotel for another PR winner who knows how to spin a storyline for all it’s worth.

      Sigh.

      • Anonymous

        I loved Josh’s little hissy bitch moment when Kimberly lucidly explained that as designers they should have some knowledge of fashion history.

        • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

          I agree, isn’t it kind of important for designers to know something about past fashion trends and famous designers??? Next thing you know there will be some kind of Coco Chanel challenge, and he’ll whine because she lived before he was born. 

      • Anonymous

        I thought someone chose jersey, but I can’t remember who. I’ll have to rewatch the episode. And I don’t think Tim’s comment to Laura was about Nina personally disliking Laura…that’s what Laura took from it because how could someone dislike Laura? Tim’s comments were about Laura’s taste level and Nina’s reaction to it. That Nina’s got her eye out for Laura’s designs because of the design, not because she hates Laura personally.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=508965562 Amanda Choo Quan

      Sigh! This has been totally turned from Project Runway to The Anya Show. It’s not her fault that she’s pretty and her taste level is to the judges’ liking, of course, but I agree that it certainly helps. I feel like I should be more excited for her as I’m both Trinidadian and from Maraval. But the producer manipulation is so evident it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I miss the goofy, sometimes silly “Daniel Franco, Where Did Ya Go?” Project Runway of yore. Why do Lifetime’s producers seem to think that bitching about other designers = drama = success? Designers have always bitched about/been mean to other designers, but I feel as though other seasons showed us other interesting things about the space and their interactions with each other (and Tim).

      • Anonymous

        I know, I miss Tim’s time on the show, it sure is cut down from previous seasons.

        • Anonymous

          I’ve gotta confess, I’ve been thinking he’s only got two,maybe three more seasons of this show in him. If that.

          I wonder if his recent producer role is his bridge to phasing out his active participation on screen, or a way to give him some official decision making power to keep him with the show when he started to talk about leaving. ETA: not that I know he’s ever said a word about leaving/changing his role. this is purely my speculation.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Johnson/1408817233 Michelle Johnson

      And how was what Anthony Ryan made any worse than the granola crap that Gretchen made and won her whole darn season with! He should not have been the one to go and Victor should definitely have been the winner, I would have even picked Bert over Anya. I loved Bert’s dress and the other outfit could have been completely wearable with something else under it instead of the little booty shorts. I thought Anya’s first outfit was horrible and the second one was alright but for her to win with one okay look when there were two other people with two amazing looks, just boggles my mind.

      • Anonymous

        i’d be a lot more sympatheitic to victor if he would quit whining and tattling that everyone’s copying him and cheating.  now he invented pleats, as well as fringe.  he is very talented but he won’t go far in the business with that immature attitude.

        • Anonymous

          He doesn’t tattle, he goes to the confessional. And so what? Like other contestants haven’t said stuff in the confessional? And I think his reaction is well, if they want to copy, go ahead, he’s just going to continue to do his thing.

    • Anonymous

      I mostly agree, TLO, but if the prodcer’s have such a firm hand, then why did they let the money envelope disappear? Was it to create tension for Anya? I think it was all part of the plan, to lose the money and then pull it all together and win. 

      If not, then it was the guy in the pink shorts who ran through a clip who took the money.  Are there customers in Mood at the same time as the contestants?  

      I can’t help it, I really do like Anya and her designs this season are the best, with Viktor close behind or tied with her. I would like to see those two as finalists and the third? Probably Bert for added tension.   I can’t take my eyes off of Anya when she is on camera but I do think she is talented and will grow as a designer given time.

      • Anonymous

        I think they close Mood to the public when they’re filming.

        • Anonymous

          If they do close it to the public then it is pretty odd how the envelope “disappeared”. So either the crew, the staff or another contestant took it?   Interesting. 

          • http://summerborn.livejournal.com/ Summer Born

            Or… it was lost. Sometimes you drop things and they get wedged somewhere or covered up with something or slip underneath a piece of furniture without anyone seeing. It doesn’t have to involve someone taking it. It also doesn’t have to involve a decision from the producers. Sometimes things get lost.

            • Anonymous

              It just seems like she was on camera most of the time she was in Mood there should be some documentation, also the other contestants are on camera, there are cameras everywhere.   I wonder if it was set up or if they really did look at the footage
              to figure out when it went missing and what happened to it.

              There is just so much we don’t know but it is still entertaining.

            • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

              She does seem to get lots of camera time.  More than Kimberly, Viktor and Bert put together.

            • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

              Oh lord, if only it took someone stealing something of mine for me to lose it. I lose things constantly through no one’s fault but my own. It does seem like there would be camera documentation of most of it but there are 7 contestants running all over the place, plus Tim, plus that adorable little dog. They might be able to pinpoint it having gone missing between minute 5 and minute 8, but she could have been a dozen different places during those minutes. And lord knows, I can lose something in 30 seconds and still not be able to figure out where I put it.

            • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

              Maybe Swatch ate it!!  I’ve had dogs eat money before.  That would be too hilarious.

        • Anonymous

          Why do you say that? Guess or knowledge? From my POV, looks like lots of customers in there every time. Can’t all be employees.

          • Anonymous

            I think I remember reading it somewhere, either an interview or something else.  Or maybe Mood put it on their Facebook page once, I can’t remember.

            Either way, I think they close the store to the public, or they go in before the store opens for the day, but don’t quote me on it.

            • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

              Some NYC-based commenter noted it in the comments and said how irritating it was because Mood opens late on those days.

        • Anonymous

          that makes it even stranger that her money disappeared.  a mood employee?  certainly not someone on the crew.  Colonel mustard in the diningroom with a candlestick!  it would have been pretty funny if she found it that evening in her underwear.  (that would be me- nothing up top to keep it from sliding all the way down.)  

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s win makes sense only because the jumpsuit would be cheap and easy to make, and buying it online means no one can try it on and see that it makes them look like Gumby. I know that Anya was a pageant contestant but, I don’t think she’s got all that fashionable a look.  The shaved head part of her hairstyle drives me crazy, as if she had brain surgery recently, and her personal aesthetic is the definition of one-note.  I’m still waiting for Nina to call her on it, but she hasn’t.

      I dropped off the PR fun train a few episodes ago. I’m sort of rooting for Viktor because he has the most talent, and I like to see Bert do well, but I’m not invested in this season at all. Same as last season and the season before that, but more so. 

      AR’s skirt was totally the 70′s if you consider Carol Burnett’s Mrs. Wiggins character wearing it.

    • Anonymous

      I can honestly say that in my workday and personal life I’ve never seen a woman wearing any of these Maxi dresses or jumpers that supposedly are the thing right now. Never.

      • Anonymous

        I *did* wear ‘em in the 1970s, even had a maxi coat.  Once was quite enough.  Around the house is one thing, dragging on the filthy sidewalks is too much.

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          I saw someone from work wearing one this past summer that she bought at Target.  She was walking downhill to the parking lot and having a heck of a time keeping it from dragging on the sidewalk, tripping her and carrying her stuff (purse, raincoat, umbrella, work shoes)– she had on flip flops.  We live in an area of NY where the weather can and often changes every 45 minutes.  It looked… comfortable to sit in but one of those “must be worn strategically” outfits.

      • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

        Really? When I was in LA I saw them everywhere.

      • Mary McClelland

        I have – but I live in PHX where it is a zillion degrees and is populated with lots of tall, thin LA girls.  Oh and my SIL wears them – but she is tall and thin… 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I have.  In fact, I’ve worn some maxi dresses.  They’re great for summer when you aren’t fond of your legs.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1469133250 Patricia McMahon

      Oxygen-Sucking Narcissistic  Bitch is going to be my new band name!

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        My son says that was the name of his last ex- girlfriend.

    • Anonymous

      Not to fan the flames of all the McKinley hatred but… oh MAN you all should watch this week’s Designer Dish video. It’s nearly unbearable. 

      • Anonymous

        I just gritted my teeth and watched it. “Nearly unbearable” is an understatement. Thanks for the reference.

        • Anonymous

          I also discovered the hidden gem entitled “Why Anthony Ryan and Viktor are no longer friends.” THAT one is high comedy. Viktor’s kind of a bitch. And I’m not saying that just because I’m predisposed to thinking that Anthony Ryan is The Chosen One. 

          • Anonymous

            OK, I’m fully admitting I’m a Viktor fan here and therefore biased, but how do you get that Viktor is a bitch from that video? It seemed kind of sad to me. He and AR had great talks, somehow Josh got wind of something and violated their privacy, and because of that Viktor didn’t want to talk about things in public. AR took it as if Viktor didn’t want to be friends and then started accusing him of personally attacking him in the confessionals. It was really weird, and I felt bad for both of them, and think that somehow Josh undermined a good friendship developing. But then, I saw 3 highly-edited minutes.

            • Anonymous

              well, like i said, i think anthony ryan shits glitter and unicorns (or rainbows, or something), and therefore, i’m not only bitter because he’s gone but i’m also preconditioned to take his side in every matter. and from what has been shown to us by the PR producers, viktor is the kind of bitchy, cutthroat one, and anthony ryan is pretty innocent and friendly and honest. so therefore, when anthony ryan says viktor one day decided to stop being friends with him, i kind of believe him. viktor was hinting that he was telling anthony ryan things and then anthony ryan was then going and talking about him behind his back to josh. given the fact that all viktor does is shit-talk people behind their backs in confessionals and anthony ryan pretty steadfastly refuses to do that, i side with team anthony ryan. i also can’t believe i just typed that on a message board.

              but yes, i do think it’s sad. i think the drama vortex probably pried them apart like no tomorrow. i also think it’s hilarious that project runway has turned into project high school cafeteria clique.

            • Anonymous

              Thank you. I enjoyed this exchange!

    • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

      Ugh I can’t even with this show anymore.  I know it’s unreasonable but I have developed a burning contempt for Anya because of how she is so clearly coasting on the infatuation of the producers/judges and is eating it up.  This episode made me furious at first but then that ebbed away and now I’m just  – *shug.*  I can’t even take the critiques of the judges seriously anymore.  Their opinions have lost credibility.   

    • Anonymous

      I don’t mind Anya, I even think she’s one of the better designers this season – and I think the conspiracy theories about her are a little on the crazy side – but I do mind how hard the show has been pushing her on the audience and how the judges fawn over her. They’ve decided that she’s the star of the season and they’re going to sell her. It was obvious from the start – from the previews – that Anya was going to win this challenge and that, suffice it to say, is bad.

      Poor Anthony Ryan. He seems like a nice person, but that doesn’t amount to much here. Certainly, I cannot say that his work this episode was good – though it was not the worst on the runway. He clearly had no idea where to go with this challenge. I will at least say that the producers did a a better job of editing with regard to him, since his auf was not immediately obvious.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t mind that this is a game show – I mind that they keep changing the rules of the game and cheating to keep their favorites in.   At least it should be a fair game – I haven’t seen that yet this  season.  Last night’s show was so predictable, it hurt.  The winner and loser were obvious about fifteen minutes in.

    • http://profiles.google.com/amy.s.hughes Amy Hughes

      Why, why, why is the Piperlime versions of these outfits exact (down to the fabric) when I don’t actually like them?!  In the past, manufactured items have changed enough to lose the essence of what I loved about them and thus, I didn’t want to actually buy when I would have shelled out outrageous sums if it actually looked like it had on the runway.  *sigh*

    • Anonymous

      When does Mad Men start?  

      • Anonymous

        snort, giggle

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Word.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        I think in February, AKA not soon enough.

    • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

      Yes but Anya makes the same type of thing over and over again, ad nauseum. And there are usually serious problems with construction and fit unless it’s one of those long flow-y patterned dresses she makes a la Uli.  I mean COME ON – in the previous episode the guy’s pants were split up the backside!

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Anya has a Pia Zadora vibe to me.  I guess that is part of the reason I have a dismissive attitude toward her.  That shaved head thing with the extensions is tacky and her designs are pretty “strip mall boutique at the beach town/flea market”

        Also, outside of a summer engagement party — I have not seen anyone wearing this type of style so I don’t understand the “trend setting” label.  The clearance sales racks are full of these maxi dresses and pregnancy look jumpsuits.

        She is very sweet to the boys but does dish/gossip quite a bit with Laura (notice how they decided it better not to speak to Kimberly).   I think she would make an excellent stylist and trophy wife.  Perhaps next year after all her ideas of what she likes to wear have been exhausted she will be an interior designer/flower arranger.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          It depends wildly on your age and location.  When I lived in Wisconsin, I didn’t wear them because I would have been overdressed.  In Chicago, however, they’re totally appropriate.  Also, in Wisconsin, most of my friends were mid- to late-30s, while in Chicago, they are closer to my own age (late 20s) 

          • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

            Well, you can’t ride a bike in them.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          “interior designer/flower arranger”

          Oh my God, I almost choked on a cracker when I read that. I love that you called her a dilettante without using the word.

      • Mary McClelland

        AND MK PRAISED THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/shawn.eric.hill Shawn Hill

      Everybody always falls all over the pretty ones, in every field. It’s just more obvious when you see the PR judges doing it.

    • Anonymous

      That winning outfit is even ugly on Heidi. I’m with you TLo. I stopped watching, stopped caring. I don’t even read the comments in TLounge anymore, and I used to devour them like candy. Who cares anymore? It’s all so meaningless. After 9 seasons, we’ve seen that the winner is rarely (if ever) fashion’s “next top designer.” Where have they gone? Bert got it right at the beginning. Last long enough for some name recognition, because winning doesn’t mean a damn thing.

    • G Spencer

      The main problem I have with Anya is that all I have seen so far from her, is the same tunic/African dress with slight variations…. 
      it does annoy me that the judges keep over praising her!! 

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        Yes, that is my main problem with her too.  Well that and the fact I think she is a phony.

        • Anonymous

          National pageant winner: Phony, or carefully honed & practiced presentation?

          All depends on whether you see it as a good thing, or a bad thing.

          • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

            Carefully honed and practiced, definitely, and there is nothing wrong with having that skillset, as it were.  But I get a phony vibe from her otherwise as well.  Practiced modesty and humility does not mean it is true humility or modesty.  Her exaggerated and oft-repeated “but I just taught myself to sew a few months ago” mantras also ring phony to  me.

            • Anonymous

              My favorite Anyaism is “I’ve never [x'd , y'd] before.”  She has said this, I believe, around 2-4 times in every single episode.  I can’t decide if she’s an amazing performer, and sort of riffing on her ‘stolen’ amateur porno, where there’s allegedly nothing she’s not done before.  She is startlingly good at shaping certain unpleasantries; I will never think someone who I can Google and see screwing as anything other than a Kardashian, but the ‘stolen tape’ thing seems to be working for her. 

              She’s icing out Kimberly with nasty-assed Laura, she treated Becky as beneath her (yes, she did.  Watch again), she knew precisely how to intro the sad tale of lost cash and $11.50 on the runway.  She’s really very good at manipulating people, and that’s a good skill, but I think there’s a lot of entitlement and shadiness and just…not being even a minimally decent, honest person outside of a surface charm there too. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

        No-Sleeve Anya!

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      I don’t think it’s just Anya’s face. She is also Miss Congeniality. She really knows how to keep her mouth shut if and when a bitchy or negative thought passes through her mind. She gives the editors very little negative material to work with.  Anthony was also super-nice but less absolutely and dramatically so. 
      She and Bert won the Piperlime award because of the simplicity of construction in their looks. It was clear that Viktor should have won and I expected him to win (how come the judges were so surprised by his excellence? It has been evident all along). But then Piperlime would have had to figure out how to put his items into production. Even the T-shirt would be a problem, since the print has to be centered and would look different depending on the size. Of course, Heidi cuts a lot of corners when adapting PR looks for her line. But with Anya’s and Bert’s looks, churning out a copy in any size at the right price point was a piece of cake.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

        “How come the judges were so surprised by his excellence? It has been evident all along.”

        Maybe his I-Will-Punch-You-For-Making-Me-Get-Off-The-Couch model has been blinding them.

        • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

          I saw her smile last night!!!  I was so shocked I almost fell off the couch.  But fear not, it wasn’t on the runway, it was when she went into the workroom.  I think she actually gave Viktor a hug — said something about not seeing him for the last two challenges.  She is really beautiful when she smiles.  I wonder if that’s her badass runway persona.  

    • Anonymous

      LOST: My favourite show.  Last seen healthy and well about four seasons ago, Answers to the name of Project Runway. Features talented designers with skills, knowledgeable judges, challenges that make sense.
      If found, please return to the viewing public.

    • Anonymous

      I hear you but I’ve taken producer manipulation as a fact of life ever since Gretchen won last season.

      I loved seeing Josh crucified by the judges for being such a jackass and for sending out some truly horrific looks.

      I really liked Bert’s and Viktor’s pieces. Anya’s wasn’t so bad but I think that the clothes she wears are more interesting than her designs for the show.

    • Anonymous

      There are many comments here, as there have been all season, about Anya’s lack of drama.  It’s true that she doesn’t stir the pot between designers and doesn’t badmouth her peers.  I like that about her a lot.  But the constant self-drama is wearing thin.  Yes, dear, we all know you only have been sewing for a short time and we all know that every single challenge is more challenging for you than for the rest because of your lack of tenure in the field…enough already.  I do admire her pluck, but she is not drama free–she just creates it in a way that makes people want to root for her.  At first I did too–now I am less sure of her authenticity.  I just am beginning to wonder….

      • Anonymous

        AUTHENTICITY?????

        She won a national beauty pageant (which requires enormous self-discipline & self-presentation) and she knows there are cameras running all the time.

        She is authentically presenting the best self she can manufacture.

        And, while I wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw her (though she is a little wee thing), I don’t see anything really wrong with that. 

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          Heh, I don’t even think the apartment she showed on her entrance video was hers.  It was so devoid of personality and no sewing machine in sight.  She doesn’t use the kitchen either–they must hire a maid or cook.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Or she eats frozen pizza and takeout… I know literally dozens of women who do not cook.  Ever.  (Personally, I’m fine with someone not cooking, but everyone should know the basics because adults should be able to feed themselves.  My mother says so:)  I also know people who clean up after themselves.  My sister-in-law has two kids and her house is spotless regularly.  You find no evidence of them outside of the designated kid areas.  There are a lot of people who live like that.  (And you can be DAMN sure my entrance video would not show all the toys that live in my house all over — I’d box it up in closets and basements for the time it took to film the video.)

            • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

              I don’t think she eats a lot of takeout– she has to keep her figure etc.  I’m just saying, the apartment was sterile, tabula rasa.  Look at everyone else’s “see my apt.” video.  There is personality there.  I don’t care if people have maid service, big deal-lots of people do.  If I had to do a entry video, I would definitely declutter, get the place clean but it would definitely be reflective of me and my family.  If I was a designer, I would probably have a work area with a drafting table, pencils, markers and references/visual inspiration around it.  I don’t understand why she didn’t and everyone else had something (creating area).

    • Lynn Landry

      I don’t like reality television at all, but the reason I got into Project Runway is that it seemed to have some integrity to it, it did showcase talent and I really could find people I believed in and wanted to support. Even after last season, I was willing to stick it out, but this season is so bad– I MEAN REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD, I just think the only thing that would get me to watch is to read your recaps. But, I notice too, that my precious TLo are also feeling it. It really has become such a sham. I got that it was a show and a game and every now and then I was not happy with a decision, but overall it really seemed to be committed to letting some real talent float to the top. Now, it’s just embarrassing to watch. So sad. But, I guess now I can recommit myself to fictional televison. While reality took over the networks, there IS some really good scripted tv to watch and discuss. But, I think PR is done. Bye-bye.

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        I’m diving back into scripted dramas.  Revenge is a totally hot indulgence.  I can see fashion, hot men, bitchiness and rich people get taken down in the Hamptons.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I’ve checked out several new shows and “Revenge” is my favorite. Two episodes in and I’m already hooked. I hope it does better in the ratings than “Dirty, Sexy Money” did. That was the last nighttime soap I watched, and I loved it.

    • Anonymous

      I think the problem with this season started with the casting.  The skills of the contestants don’t seem up to the level of previous seasons so the judges have abandoned their focus on the garment itself.  If they continued to use execution as even a major factor in evaluating the looks, they would be left with so few viable entries.  So they have focused on styling, the idea, what the designer was going for, what the look could have been, how relevant is it to what where they think fashion is going.  All this tremendously benefits Anya (and previously helped precious moments and others too). 

      I don’t really like this approach.  A bitter kitten at the start of the season talked abut ‘competence porn’ (sorry, I don’t remember who).   That people like watching what skilled, creative people can come up to solve a problem.  I think the elimination of execution as a factor for judging really takes a way from seeing how well someone can come up with a solution to the challenge (although they always seem to fall back on execution for designers whose ideas they aren’t impressed with or who they don’t see as relevant to their vision of where fashion is headed).  I now am only taping PR and will watch it when or if I have time.

      • Anonymous

        “people like watching what skilled, creative people can come up to solve a problem.”

        I’d like this 50 times if I could.  I’d be lying if I said I didn’t enjoy a little personality drama, but it’s not why PR is the only reality competition I watch regularly.

    • Anonymous

      Please, Lord. Not another braless halter top from Anya! I dare her to make something structured, with darts and side and back seams.

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Join me in my campaign against side boob exposure.

      • Mary McClelland

        Don’t look at her fashion week collection – it’s a braless, backless harem of beach cover-ups! 

        • Anonymous

          It’s too late! I already checked out all of the collections. Worse still, I like Laura Kathleen’s. Didn’t wanna; couldn’t help it.

    • http://twitter.com/evergreen_g G and G

      Totally agree with all TLo said. This show is indeed ridiculously predictable. The moment the cameras were all over Anya’s frantic search for the cash, you knew they were riding on a storyline where she rises from this situation and “makes it work”.  Nina’s critique of her “ability to think fast on her feet” is too obvious that it could only come from a script.  I also don’t doubt that the missing cash is entirely staged because you could see the Manila envelope sliding off her dress and there’s no way the cameramen would not see it slip off and fall to the ground. Anya’s slot on the finals is sealed, she could do no wrong. BTW, did Anya say something like she never thought she would do something like this but thought if it could happen to anyone, it would be Bert?  Seriously? did she really go there?  And Josh, please. If it’s any consolation, it seems like they are keeping him around so that they could poke fun at his lack of taste and editing issues. I think the joke’s on him now, poor guy.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3JSTXMWWVZN2QNP2UEKJMTWD7U Isabel

      AJ was doing some wonderful yesterday in New Orleans for a teen cancer patient!! He didn’t watch the show.
      http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2011/09/meet_project_runways_anthony_r.html

      http://www.nola.com/fashion/index.ssf/2011/09/project_runways_anthony_ryan_a.html

      He is a wonderful guy!

    • http://twitter.com/sockandaphone Gaby

      I felt so bad for Viktor. The face he made when the winner was announced said it all… he impresses me week after week with the way he makes like 5 pieces in such little time. I knew for weeks Anya was a judge favorite, solely based on her “4-month experience” tale, which i give her credit too but the judges at this point in the game need to realize shes proven her talent and what her taste level is, now what else can she do? Also the amount of air-time given to that girl sometimes… ick.

    • Anonymous

      While I did like Viktor’s outfits overall the best, I was (and still am) confused by the praise he got for that tshirt.  I mean, yeah, I can see some people buying it.  But it’s a tshirt.  Calm down.  They find any little thing they can to praise wildly so they can justify hitting one designer for something and praising another for a similar thing.

      Viktor should have won, b/c he had no issues.  Even Bert’s would have been a better choice for the win (even though they are producing his-sounds like Olivia didn’t really want Anya, but had to bow down).

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I loved that shirt, honestly.  I would buy that shirt in A FREAKING SECOND — I would have been on Piperlime so fast if that had won… There is a reason to make a big thing out of that shirt: it’s casual, it’s special enough to earn its designer label, and it something that enough people who DON’T have exclusively designer wardrobes (’cause those who do aren’t shopping on Piperlime) and DON’T need a giant special occasion wardrobe (Who are these people who need cocktail dresses every night?  I don’t know of any real person who has this need… and I know of a lot of people.) to plunk down the extra cash for over a basic top.

        Though I STILL don’t think Victor should have won, BECAUSE IT DIDN’T READ AS 70s. It was a great set of looks, and masterfully done. But it missed the brief, so while it deserved its spot in the top 3, I don’t think it earned a win.

        • Anonymous

          I’m not saying the shirt wasn’t cute, or that I wouldn’t wear it.  My point was this is a design competition and the judges were praising a tshirt. 

    • Anonymous

      Viktor was a “viktim” of the Jay McCarroll Banana Republic Chrysler Building dress curse. Best design, but probably too intricate to mass produce at an inflated price.

      • Anonymous

        great analogy!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2B6U4UNVYIV5DLEG6Z24ALYOC4 Dan Alexander

      Not that I am making excuses for Anthony Ryan, but isn’t he color blind? I though Barbie Doll should have gone! That was some N-asty sh_t! W T F?

      • Anonymous

        This probably isn’t an excuse either, but his model was AWFUL.

    • LocMama

      I just finished watching this episode.  I haven’t read TLo’s comments or any other comments from the other kittens, but that was an episode that finally felt like the old PR.  Kimberly riling up Viktor over Inverted Pleatgate, Bert joking with Joshua over the “sock”, Heidi’s face when Tangerine was gasping over AR’s mini skirt, Heidi’s “He was cute” after she auf’d AR, the old Nina was back & better than ever, Joshua’s HOR-REN-DOUS plaid pants!!  My heart’s beating really fast.  Oh wait, Viktor whispering “Fashion is my food”!  The only thing missing were the silhouetted mannequins during the confession sessions.
      Ok, I’ll be alright.  I’m going to make some tea & recline on my fainting couch.  I believe I have a case of the vapors that will quickly dissipate once I read what everyone else is saying.  Let me have my euphoria for a few more seconds.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        And the bad stuff was SPECTACULARLY bad!  I miss the truly BAD rather than the wretchedly boring. 

        Oh, and the Josh throwdown with the judges?  No Santino or Kenley, but a lot more fun than things like Fallene’s “I’m sorry I’m awful and I’ll try not to offend your eyes again” nonsense.

        • LocMama

          There were so many “SPECTACULARLY bad” things that I tried to block them out & pick out all the “fun” stuff that made me giggle.  I’ve been walking around whispering {random things} are my food all day.

      • Anonymous

        Viktor whispers, “Fashion is my food.”  Can’t miss that, I will go to “On Demand” right after the house is clean(er)

    • Anonymous

      And the second challenge was specifically to design a single-piece garment. They were looking for a dress or jumpsuit.

    • Anonymous

      Not sure if anyone commented on this or not, but on the Piperlime site, it says “Winning Looks”, not “Winning Look”. So why didn’t Bert share in the win?

      Also, I now I can see why PR is self-destructing….when looking on BM’s website for their mailing address to write them a “Dear John” letter, I noticed that they are also the producers of “quality” shows, such as Bad Girls Club, the Kardashians, and the Simple Life…..

    • Anonymous

      Tim’s allowed himself a comment about how sad he is that Anthony left on his FB page.  I suspect he thinks it was the wrong decision.
      Laura’s and Joshua’s were both substantially worse IMO.

    • http://twitter.com/yankeefoxtrot Alex McGeagh

      I’ve only gone back about four or five pages in the comments, but I’m surprised no one has mentioned the whole Laura vs Nina Garcia thing. Very interesting, no? Tim actually told her (not shown/off camera) that Nina thinks she has a taste problem. Quite interesting indeed.

      The look on both Bert and Viktor’s faces when Anya won was just…sad. She had no business winning this challenge (though I understand the requirements re: Piperlime, it makes sense.). Sadly it just transforms it from a “Make something fashionable from your point of view” challenge into “Make something that will look good on the interwebz and be cheap enough for people to buy” challenge.

      Definitely didn’t care for Anthony Ryan’s outfits, but god, Josh’s pants were so over the top gross, I don’t know how he could have possibly recovered from those to not go home. Good grief…her butt looked truly atrocious…and that plaid print. OH MY. Speechless! 

      • Toto Maya

        I was hoping that Laura would get aufed, because I am not looking forward to her whining next week that NINA IS AGAINST HER SHE WILL NEVER WIN, etc.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        And the horror of the unmatched plaid lines!  They were all crooked and messed up at the seams — not okay!  If you are going to do a plaid or graphic line print, then it MUST be pristine at the seams or it looks cheap and poorly made.  And if you want to be a top designer and charge a ridiculous amount for pants, they canNOT look cheap!

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I don’t know if those pants were too tight or if it was due to how Josh lined up (or failed to line up) the plaid, but it looked like her ass was going to burst through at any second, for the whole world to see. I hate plaid anyway, but looking at those pants was actually painful. They were just horrible.

    • Anonymous

      I confess I don’t mind that AR was sent home. He seems like a genuinely sweet boy, but every time they showed him, I would say to myself, “Wait, which one is he, again?” He may be memorable in real life, but on TV he’s bland.

      While I often want to kick Clinique’s ass, he’s at least entertaining sometimes, and for that I’m kind of glad he didn’t get aufed.

      Anya’s win was…well, yeah, nothing to add, here.

      • Toto Maya

        I didn’t mind AR leaving, but I would have preferred Laura or Josh to go first.

    • http://www.facebook.com/suzie.vazquez Suzie Vazquez

      The words coming out of Olivia Palermo’s mouth did not flatter her at all. She came off as a total snobby beesh! Ick, she was just so ugly last night!!    And Viktor was robbed….. AGAIN!

    • Anonymous

      I opted for Simon Cowell’s X-Factor over PR last night and it seems I made the right choice. Cowell was in excellent form and two of the contestants will make an excellent palate cleanser for those still trying to banish the taste of last night’s PR. The first, a 14 year old rapper from Brooklyn named Brian Bradley, stunned the judges by dissing Cowell as the lead-in to his original song. Cowell looked butthurt, but the kid won him over. An astounding performance by a runt of a kid who personifies confidence walking. The second, 16-year-old Jazzlyn Little, was a quivering heap of insecurity until she started singing. Her version of Blige’s “I’m going down” was mind-blowing. You can see them both on You Tube.
      And L A Reid makes a great judge.

    • Anonymous

      Well. It’s nice to see you two rounding out some of your mean-girl Anya remarks, because I know that if you said the opposite the whole show through, most of your readers would be singing Anya’s praises. That’s the unfortunate thing about what happens in these comments. Anya is a great designer. She steps up to challenges, she is smart, she is quick, and she has a point of view. She doesn’t spend her time when she is in a pinch flipping out or causing drama in the workroom. Now we have evidence that she is quite generous, from what Tim said about her giving away fabrics in the last episode. And she is obviously liked by the contestants. Similarly, although Laura needs some class education or just education period, she shows genuine concern and empathy from other contestants. Pay attention to her eyes when other contestants are having a hard time or getting auf’d. There isn’t one contestant on this show who does not engage in bitchery or narcissism. You might try to argue that Kimberlee doesn’t, but then you’d have to admit that she stays out of the camera’s glare completely.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        humbug, sorry.

        they are both very specific about their kindnesses & their sympathies.

        if you dont believe me, ask becky. she was there.

        • Eclectic Mayhem

          ‘Like’ to the power of several million.

        • Anonymous

          God, you people need lives.

          • Anonymous

            And you need an enema.

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            I can’t think of a faster way to lose credibility than telling people who disagree with you that they 1) need lives, 2) should grow up, 3) should get over it.

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        Anya is a great designer?  Like with the pair of pants in the Sheepdogs episode that split up the backside?  Your comment kind of drips with delusion.

    • Anonymous

      Really! This whole season, every time they say “that’s on trend” I have so massive a WTF moment that I nearly pass out.

      I don’t pretend to be a fashionista, and I’m middle-aged, but I work at a major university. I would hope I might see some of the students wearing some things that are “on trend,” but apparently not.

    • Anonymous

      I’ve commented all I’ve had to say on other folks’ comments. To recap:
      Anya didn’t deserve the win, but I can see why she got it. She & Bert made decent looking items that were cheaper to produce. Bert should be pissed (not that he didn’t win, but that it was such a blatant act of corporate exploitation presented as a boon), but he’s old enough to be philosophical.

      I admire Anya’s preparation & her game play. I never expected a national pageant winner to be 100% trustworthy in her “alliances,” not if it was going to stand in the way of winning!

      The more I think about what a public relations/marketing BONANZA Anya will be for BM, Marie-Claire, Piperlime, et al., the more inevitable her win seems.

      I’ll be shocked if she becomes a successful designer but I’ll be shocked if she doesn’t parlay her win (should she win) into another round of opportunities which at the end of the day will result in a solid business model that allows her to live well &, if she’s traditionally inclined, marry into the gene pool/social circle/income bracket she desires.

      She may not win, but she’ll be a finalist and I bet she’ll make more hay out of finalist status than one might expect. See trajectory limned above.

      I am kinda pissed that the show doesn’t have a deeper talent pool. Maybe I’m romanticizing the past, but the producer manipulation was easier to swallow when there was a strong argument to be made for at least two of the top three, most of the time.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i agree.

        i’ve been sure since very early on that, yep, anya’s gonna win. i could be wrong, but i think it’s long been decided. how & why, precisely, i dont know.

        i also think that she doesnt wanna be a designer. i just dont see it. too much work, not enough personal aggrandizement {if i make sense}. she may want to host a design show. i’m sure she wants showbiz. perhaps lifetime wants to give her further opportunities in that area. &, for heavens sake, as a person she is as “on trend” as it is possible to be.

        • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

          She’d be excellent as a PR person or as someone marketing someone else with talent.  But then, she should not be a winner on this show or even competing on it.  Someone who follows all the trends faithfully can also be “on trend.”  That’s not a skill set, that’s merely paying attention.

      • Anonymous

        I also agree.

        As early as the first episode, once they let her onto the show after making a big deal out of her lack of experience, I immediately thought that she was going to be a finalist at the very least -  especially when she was then in the top three. In fact, even before the show aired, when I saw the video TLo posted of the judges on Good Morning America (here: http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2011/07/judging-the-judges-heidi-michael-nina.html ), I had to wonder about her. Now, I suppose I may still be proven wrong, but so far everything seems to be confirming it.

        I’m not sure what she actually wants for herself or what she intends to do after the show, but I’m inclined to think that, whatever else she plans on, her design career will essentially be a vanity line.

        • Mary McClelland

          I am guessing she wants a career in tv, like hosting or something. Or she wants to get into magazines – editor, etc. 

          • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

            Exactly.  

    • http://profiles.google.com/grandiva1968 e jerry powell

      Now here’s what’s chapping my ass.  I realize that there is such a thing as retail markup, but both of the “winning” garments were produced with less than $50 materials cost.  Bert’s dress is listed at just under $100, and Anya’s at just under  $200.

      WTF?

      I’m thinking that anyone who actually knows about the provenance of the garments is aware that they were made in a few hours with $50 of materials.  I can’t believe that anyone with sense is going to look past the price gouging.

      • Anonymous

        That’s still less than standard retail mark up.

      • Toto Maya

        If you look at the items they’re selling, they’re actually using cheaper materials than the ones Anya and Bert used.

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          Actually Anya used polyester chiffon for her looks– no way she would have gotten the yardage for both looks at $50 in silk.  Burt’s look was actual double faced silk jersey.  Piperlime made her look with silk and his with poly/nylon.  Go figure.  His design will still look more attractive on a wider range of sizes .

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

        As noted so well many pages ago, there is so much more than the cost of the fabric involved in pricing an item. The overhead is huge, ranging from the cost of operating the factory to maintaining the web site and everything else in between. As the owner of a very small retail store, I have to factor in utilities, insurance and many other hidden costs when I price my merchandise in order to “make my nut.”

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          That’s standard job costing procedure, whether you’re a small retail store or a giant corporation.  I’m usually the one railing against corporate greed (no offense:) but on this one, the economics of it are VASTLY different from the “$50 marked up to $200″ bit.

    • Anonymous

      Bert’s dress is sold out on Piperlime. 

      I “watch” PR on the blogs only, so I have a little different perspective.  I see the screen caps of the runway in real time (more or less) over on Blogging Project Runway, and I don’t log on until runway time, so I don’t have any idea who made what (other than the obvious styles of the designers.  Last night, I picked Anya for the win, and Bert for the auf.  It is interesting to me that Bert’s dress has apparently flown out the door oor whatever you call it when it’s a website.  I’ll look forward to seeing the show tonight  and maybe “getting” what was so fabulous about Bert’s very simple dress.  (Although I will say in his defense that my best friend in highschool had a swinging mini in a lemon yellow just like that little dress-  in 1974. 

      • Toto Maya

        It’s not really fabulous, but I’ll admit that I considered buying it because it’s cute and simple enough that I would wear it. It’s not fashion, but it’s decent clothes and the kind of thing I like to wear. Anya’s jumpsuit? Yeah, I’m not 6 feet tall and size 0, it isn’t happening.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          It really is fabulous, though.  It’s just fabulous in a very understated way.  You could wear that dress anywhere with anything and be totally appropriate.  It’s chic, it’s easy, and it’s versatile.  Those things are important in clothes — more so to most people than innovation.

    • Anonymous

      I hate Josh!  Good for the other contestants for defending Viktor who rightly pointed out Josh’s excuses as what they were…. BS.  How many times have we heard “20′s inspired” or other referential terms.  I actually liked Anthony Ryan’s second dress.  I agree about Anya though, they give her TOO much credit.  Ugh!  I hated last night and yelled at the TV for the first time in ages!  Josh is a selfish B!  Miss Clinique counter shoudl be ashamed of herself!

      • Anonymous

        P.S. did anyone else notice Tim Gunn getting teary eyed about AR leaving?! He clearly disagreed or had a strong connection with him. 

        • Anonymous

          Tim is so adorable.

    • Anonymous

      Bert’s dress is already sold out. Josh should have gone home over Anthony Ryan. But I guess drama wins out every time.

    • Anonymous

      Speaking of Santino, whatever happened to him?

      • Toto Maya

        He had a reality show with Austin Scarlett about a year ago.

        • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

          I LOVED that show — so sorry to see it gone.  He and Austin went to small towns all over the country and made a dream dress for women — one was a cancer survivor, some were military vets, all kinds of women.  It was really lovely, and they were really sweet to everyone!  I thought Santino might be snarky about small-town American but he was really nice.  There was one episode where he and Austin offered to babysit for a client’s triplets — it was hilarious.  

          • Anonymous

            I did like that show as well, though I have never admitted it to the TLo public until now!

    • Anonymous

      For the first time last night, I didn’t bother to watch the show. Not because I forgot (which has happened once or twice) but because I genuinely couldn’t be bothered. I remembered, and I chose to do something else. I feel a bit sad, but it’s come to that point at last. I simply don’t care any more.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s point of view is plunging v-neck caftan or jumpsuit.  THAT’S IT.  She’s a NO trick pony and they’re obviously DETERMINED to give the win to her, regardless.

      My husband still thinks she’s all sweet and innocent…the stupid cow eyes and pretty smile have him sucked in, too.  Let’s not forget that she was in the catfight world of beauty queens, AND apparently was in some sort of sex scandal (I can’t be bothered to waste attention on her and look it up).  She KNOWS how to manipulate.  And the producers/judges do too.  I’ll go so far as to say that I think the money thing was bullshit manipulation, for that matter.  As was the extra look.

      The judges should be ASHAMED that they gave her the win over Victor or even Bert.  This is the point where they USUALLY start pointing out that someone has made essentially the same outfit EVERY week.  But not Anya!

      I didn’t make any threats last year over the Gretchen debacle…but I’m putting my foot down this year.  If Anya wins, I will not be watching next season.  Just like Mondo, Viktor (IMO) has shown himself to clearly be the most talented of the bunch.  And they’ll find a way to screw him out of it too, and let Pretty Pretty Princess win.

      • Anonymous

        She’s laid low on the manipulation thing for the past few episodes but all my girl-acting-underhanded warnings went off when she made a point, ON THE RUNWAY, of immediately telling the damn story of the $11.50 outfit without being prompted in any way whatsover. This beauty queen repeately resorts to really going for this Super-Underdog Victim Who Came From Behind to Do Such Wonders! storyline. And so she always get heaps of praise for something mediocre. But worse, she gets aways with pulling this same stunt — the details of the situation are always slightly different, but it’s the same exact damn deliberately little story arc every single time — and gets away with it. I wish Becky were back now, or that the Hissing Viktor side of Viktor would come out again.

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          Plus, we only see what they choose to show us.

      • Anonymous

        I was thinking the same thing about how she hasn’t gotten the “one trick pony” criticism yet.

        • Anonymous

          And I’m betting she never will.

    • Anonymous

      Well, that show is going nowhere. That episode was ridiculous. Talk about scenarizing “real life” !
      I’m going back to rewatching season 1, just to remember the good times.

      OK, Anya’s, to take Nina’s words, “quick to think on her feet” and she did well for 11 bucks. That’s it.
      I’m not liking Viktor’s attitude a lot, what with all the jealousy and envy and egoism all over the place. But at least he knows they are not teens on a summer sewing camp but on in a competition that might help one of them to launch a carrier.
      And he throw killer looks on the runway (not liking the vest but the tailoring was amazing for that amount of time). That reminds me of the season one Banana’s republic challenge where Jay produced a killer look that was impossible to produce on a mass level.
      Told you I was going back to season 1.

      • Anonymous

        Imagine, for a minute, you’re Viktor. You are on a fashion gameshow, and have had the opportunity to see who stays and who goes. The people who have left have, for the most part, been low key people. The people who stay, even when they do terrible, tend to be the obnoxious shouty ones who throw their personality around the room like a monkey throws feces (Josh). Or they’re a sexy lady, to capture that elusive straight male demo that doesn’t actually watch PR (Anya). You knows that you will never be a sexy lady, what do you do to keep yourself safe just in case you make a mistake?

        Viktor’s villain act is quite fake, just like his many pre-packaged one liners to keep him interesting. Dude knows he’s a reality show contestant, and he’s come prepared. Luckily he’s also a pretty good designer, one of the best of the lot, so I’m not going to begrudge him for cooking up a silly character to stay around.

        • Anonymous

          Can I multiply my like on this post?  I feel like I’ve been on a one-woman mission to rescue Viktor from the accusations being leveled against him.

          • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

            I like Viktor’s work. He is clearly talented and of a higher design caliber than most on the show including Anya, CC, Princess and maybe even Kimberly (who I like also).

        • Anonymous

          Well I understand your point of view but, you, see, to me Viktor’s not a villain at all. I don’t watch the show that way.
          And I totally get why he does what he does : it’s a competition and Viktor has to do whatever he can to stay in the game. He knows he lacks in cuteness so he’s not aiming that way and capitalize on construction and design. So what if he doesn’t have 2 000 versions of his lady suit on sale in Piperlime.com as long as he DID show the judges what he can do in a short amount of time ?
          He’s efficient. He knows he can win this so he’s not going to let his chance slips. Hence he doesn’t help the other contestant (when you think abour it how silly not to secure the only money you have when you can very well be eliminated if you lose it ? And I have half in my mind that some PR crew saw her enveloppe fall and snatched it, just because they knew it was a one in a million chance of more drama on screen !). And he’s right to be angry that Josh tried to copy him.
          Still, his reactions seemed to me not that thought over than you imagine, I see it more liked stress induced.

          • Anonymous

            Oh, I don’t think he’s actually a villain, but he’s smart, and he’s giving the producers what they want (and producing great garments, but that oddly doesn’t seem to be a prerequisite for sticking around this season). I just see him as playing the game so he can win, which is a perfectly good reaction to, well, playing a game. But he’s not that good an actor, so every time he starts acting bitchy it doesn’t ring true, which is why I say he’s playing a character. And if that helps the best man win, more power to him.

    • Anonymous

      Anthony’s comment about Woodstock made the proverbial tires screech in my head. Child, do you even realise when Woodstock was?

      I didn’t finish watching this ep. Haven’t actually watched one since Josh threw his little fit and was a raging douchebag to everyone.

      • Anonymous

        Well, to be fair, mass-market culture was still processing Woodstock a couple of years later.

        Josh hasn’t been shown being a raging douchebag for the last couple episodes.  Just an annoying little whiner.  Bert’s actually now being shown as affable and even occasionally cutely naughty.  Editing or progress?

        • Anonymous

          Sure, but even still, how do the words “Woodstock” and “sophisticated” go together?

          • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

            depends upon who was in the helicopter & how one applies ones definition of sophistication to whomsoever it was.

            but thats really splitting hairs & if yr defining the 70s by its much more 60s cusp, yr not even gonna know those hairs are there to split.

            • Anonymous

              Huh?  You lost me there.  I was saying that even if you give Anthony Ryan a pass on not knowing that Woodstock wasn’t the 70′s strictly speaking because the influence continued to be felt into the 70′s, he was still off the mark in interpreting “sophisticated 70′s” as Woodstock and weed.  Even if his only 70′s reference was Woodstock, he missed the “sophisticated” part of the challenge description, so didn’t try to move in that direction.  I don’t see how that’s splitting hairs. 

            • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

              cos the roads to woodstock were completely jammed, the organizers used a helicopter to fly in the bands, the singers, their management, friends, etc & ect.

              ie: there’s a very different level of taste & sophistication between, say, bianca jagger or joni mitchell &, i dont know, say: mountain.

              it’s splitting hairs cos you’d have to know who played, who they hung around w/, who all of them were as people & how that translated into what they wore.

              even i had to go look up who played woodstock in 1969. i was a little kid but i was completely fascinated by the era so i know more about it than a lot of people my age, & certainly younger than my age. anthony ryan didnt know any of it, & he couldnt really be expected to know it. that he didnt know it wasnt even in the 70s & is an absolutely defining event of the late 60s is a little weird but– okay.

              but nobody could expect him to be able to split the hairs on the one particular hippie wig that would contain the knowledge that iron butterfly, for example, was a band that might not initially have known how to dress but had girlfriends involved in what was then the very coveted position of the old “seamstress to the band.”

            • Anonymous

              Calm down.  I don’t have to know all that to say that AR went off in the wrong direction with this challenge and missed the part about “sophistication.”  You’re splitting hairs.  Now get some rest.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              I gotta say, he got points from me for saying he was inspired by the pot use… I found that hilariously honest.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Yeah, I loved that too. It made me laugh really hard.

            • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

              I was a kid in the 70′s– there were plenty of hippy types around about 10 years older than me busy telling me how much better things were in the 60′s.  However, Altamont was 1969 (right on the cusp) and didn’t end well and really signaled the end of that particular vibe/meme.  

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i know from being a vintage dealer that people younger than i am cannot tell the difference between 80s-70s-60s almost at all. lots of times–& i’ve heard this from other people too–they just assume everything happened in the 80s: beatniks, viet nam, ww II, woodstock, jitterbugging, everything.

        • Anonymous

          yeah well I’m 23 and I still somehow know the difference. A wannabe fashion designer definitely should know the dif!

          • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

            my fault. i shouldve somehow implied that i didnt mean everyone. it just startled me so much. i mean, when i was a kid in the 70s i knew the difference between the the weimar republic & that which inspired, say, the fonz. & i see so very much of the opposite now.

            • Anonymous

              Oh. I could have sworn there was an episode of Happy Days where the Fonz went to Berlin and met Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill.

            • Anonymous

              Sadly, some vintage dealers don’t know their decades either. I bought a fabulous burnt orange leather clutch from a woman who had it marked as a 1930s piece when it was clearly 1970s (down to the 70s-era “Made in China” label inside). If she had been charging more, I might have questioned it, but it was only $10 and in near-perfect shape, so who cares? ;-)

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Well, let’s consider how many people can’t place WWII in the correct decade or tell you when Watergate happened (even the correct decade — I can’t tell you how many people I know who will tell you it was the 60s) and it’s not that surprising that people can’t place the clothes.

          • Anonymous

            Absolutely. And they had slideshows on their HPs, too. I at least doubt that Josh saw anything resembling his pieces in that slideshow.

        • Toto Maya

          I don’t always know the different either, but if it was relevant to my interests you bet I would. Like if I was a fashion designer.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Seriously?  I weep for my nation… (And I’m 28.  There’s no excuse.)

        • Anonymous

          I am ashamed to admit that even though I was alive and sentient (e.g. choosing my own clothes, mostly, and looking at least casually at fashion magazines) the late 60′s to early -mid 70′s and then the early-mid 70′s through the late 70′s run together for me, sometimes.  And my mom kept her favorite issues (mostly for entertaining stuff) so especially advertising styles (that is, the style of the ads’ layout, illustrations, font, etc.) from late 50′s through late 60′s similarly run together.

          Fortunately, my livelihood does not depend on that kind of accuracy.

          ETA: that jitterbugging you slipped in there made me laugh.

    • Anonymous

      just to say : Bert’s dress is already sold out on piperlime’s site while Anya’s is still for sell.
      Well, in the end, consumers have the last word : between a maxi jumper in an ugly print you can wear only on the beach and a pretty dress you can put out, accessorize and look chic in almost every situation, wich one would you choose ?

      That, or the productions’ stock were higher for Anya’s outfit… Naaa, I don’t think so.

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        I called that in the Lounge– I knew his design would be more popular.  It is versatile.

        • Anonymous

          I totally agree. I think Bert’s one of the only ones who thought about the challenge ine a retailing point of view : you had to be able to produce it massively with the less pattern work possible.
          Since episode I’m growing more and more impressed with Bert’s thinking.

      • scottyf

        I don’t know if you got a chance to watch the two videos of Anya and Bert talking with Heather Archibald about their needs for their garments. There were a couple of things that were very telling to me. One: almost the entire interview with Bert, Heather was able to talk with him about construction details. They talked about fabric choice, design details such as strap width, fabric choice–even how to cut the belt (I was surprised it wasn’t cut on a bias). The conversation with Anya was quite different. And two: Heather asked to see the back of Anya’s garment, but when Thais (the model) turned around, they cut to another frontal shot. I’m thinking that the back just wasn’t presentable. Now, no one says a designer has to know construction, it just really showed me the chasm between the skill sets of the contestants.

        I’m wearing my copy of Bert’s dress to the first dinner on our honeymoon.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I was INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED by the way Bert asked about the fabric and print when talking to the Piperlime woman, even in just the show itself — it was the first thing out of his mouth when she announced the challenge, and it showed just how much his experience helps him.  That wasn’t a design question, it was a marketing question, and that’s something that anyone who gets paid for making clothes knows is mighty important. 

          • Mary McClelland

            Didn’t he do advertising for Halston or something? 

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              No, he designed for Halston, and for the Halston catalog specifically.  Catalog and online sales are different from in store sales — you can’t see the movement of the fabric, you can’t feel its texture, you can’t try it on, so it has to grab you from a static picture alone and it has to do so enough to make you buy it without having direct access to it.  It’s not easy.

        • Anonymous

          No, I didn’t but it seems interesting.
          There’s a gap between Anya and Bert : she has officially started design work four months ago while Bert has started decades ago. Not only had he had the time to build up designing, tailoring and sewing skills but I guess he became more familiar with other aspects of the fashion world.
          He’s really an interesting character.

          • scottyf

            Actually, if I”m not mistaken, Anya has been designing for a while. She designed garments for herself during her stint in the Miss Universe Pageant in 2008. She officially started sewing her own garments four months before the filming of PR began.

            You’re basically repeating my point. I’m not trashing Anya, or the other contestants. I’m simply saying that the videos really show the difference very clearly.

            Personally, however, the video also furthers my belief that Anya has no desire to learn these skills and techniques. I believe Project Runway is simply a means for her to cultivate a brand, of which designing clothing is a part. I believe Bert loves the Art of clothing construction and design. There is nothing wrong with her goal. It’s just highly interesting to me, and the videos cemented that.

    • Anonymous

      Prompted by someone else’s comment, I looked more closely at Anya’s pants.  It kind of looks to me as if there is NO closure on them.  Wish they had told the model to take off the belt.  If they had fallen to the floor, that would have been absolutely priceless…and maybe the right designer would have won.

    • Damien Washington

      I always smirk at people in comments who say “That’s it, I’m done with this season!”

      …well, that’s it. I’m done with this season. My only hope for a salvaged season is if Bert beats Josh in the finals, just to give Eyebrows a stroke. Anthony was the only one left that I could openly root for. Now I’m hoping Bert or Anya wins, which is ironic considering I couldn’t stand them for the first few weeks.

      Bunim-Murray, you have ruined a great franchise. Congratulations. Magical Elves, make a bid. Please.

      • Toto Maya

        I said last season that I was done with PR, but damnit, here I am, so I am never saying that again.

    • vmcdanie

      TLo says:

      You’ve managed to take the two people who are probably the most engaged
      with this show and left them bored with your silliness and completely
      uninterested in the final outcome.

      And that was when I knew PR’s days were numbered, barring some deus ex machina (Magical Elves, come back to us!)

    • Anonymous

      Don’t know if anyone else has posted this yet, but from Tim Gunn’s Facebook page: “One last night’s episode, Season Nine lost a great designer and an individual of great quality. It was emotional for me to have to say goodbye…”

      Awww, LOVE Tim Gunn!

      • Anonymous

        Yes, I hadn’t seen the show yet when I saw that comment, and I thought it was pretty unusual for him to make a statement like that and so figured he must have been pretty pissed about the episode.

        • Anonymous

          I do think it was pretty unusual how willing A.R. always was to help everyone else. He wasn’t really in it for himself, he was in it to maintain his integrity, which I’m trying to remember is a good thing. Sigh. I’m glad at least Tim recognized it. I’m not saying this because I totes love him, but i really think if A.R. ever had to run his own line/business, he’d do really well if only because of how well people respond to him (and also because he can make shit happen when he has more than 10 hours to do it.) 

          • Anonymous

            Help everyone else, NO!  He commented when he was talking about helping Anya that he was happy to help her but would NOT have helped Bert.  Glad to see him auf’d!

            • Anonymous

              Mm i call bullshit.

            • Anonymous

              Not sure what you’re calling bullshit on.  I don’t remember which of the extra segments it is in, but if you go to the Lifetime site AR says exactly that in one of those segments.  I didn’t like him much before, but that statement really colored my impression of him in a negative way.

            • Anonymous

              Hmm now I’m curious. I’d be shocked if he said that and he wasn’t joking. Unless he said it during the episode where Bert terrorized him because I think he gets a free pass for that ep.

            • Anonymous

              No, it was from the latest episode.  And, no, he didn’t seem like he was joking.

            • Anonymous

              haha. not to keep this discussion going because it’s becoming a bit asinine and i’m not arguing about who’s nice and who’s not, but i just found this alleged video. and props for twisting words.

            • Anonymous

              Yes, it has become asinine.  You have a ridiculous need to defend AR.  I know that I was not the only one to hear what he said and interpret it the way I did as there is another comment on the board that mentions it.  No, I will not go and find it for you as I have no need to discuss this any longer.

    • http://twitter.com/turtleemily Turtle Emily

      The print on Anya’s jumpsuit (dress? I can’t tell and really don’t want to watch the episode to find out) looks like white and tan sheep.

    • Anonymous

      Someone may have mentioned it already, but as of this morning (Pacific time), Bert’s dress was entirely sold out on the piperlime site; while Anya’s garment was still available in all sizes.

      Which is annoying, because the site apparently doesn’t let you take a closer look than the thumbnail at items that are sold out.  It does look like they were able to faithfully reproduce the simple kicky dress he put on the runway, but no way to see closeups.

      Anyway, I’ll be sad if this is the last season I care to watch.

      • Mary McClelland

        I saw the close-up this morning EST and it looked nice! They of course kept the little silver balls on the end of the belt tie. yay Bert. Seriously – the judges kept raving about every woman wanting to wear that jumpsuit and I was thinking – I don’t and really no woman I know would want to wear that AND would look good in it… 

    • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

      I dearly hope someone who works for Lifetime and/or Bunim/Murray follows the PR blogosphere and sees how they’re boring and losing longtime fans… Worst season ever? It’s just dull.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        & most of the contestants are worthless.

        • Anonymous

          AMEN!  Certainly not “designers” like they were in the past.

      • Anonymous

        I’m curious as to what the ratings are for this season; I know that last season, for all the distaste for it (it was the worst season), nevertheless had the highest rated single episode in the show’s history.

        Frighteningly, it’s possible that they don’t need longtime fans: they may be gaining more than they’re losing. With the complaints about the show post-switch and the threats of never watching again, I wonder if they’ve concluded that they can’t rely on longtime fans at all and begun courting fans of a different sort – hence the more odious changes of the past two seasons.

        But I don’t know what the numbers are now. I have to hope they’re bad, or else they’ll never rectify those mistakes.

        • Eclectic Mayhem

          I very much fear that you’re on to something Indovina – they don’t care about the people who really care about the show, they’re going for the lowest common denominator and it’s our loss.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      i will probably have more to say later but for now all i can manage is that i dont see a whole whale of a world of difference between anya’s winning nightgown & anthony ryan’s losing nightgown. is it cos one of them knew how to make sleeves?

      • Mary McClelland

        ME EITHER!!! I totally said that earlier!! They were essentially THE SAME LOOK! I WAS SO PISSED!

      • Anonymous

        Oh, I think it’s because BM, Marie Claire, Piperlime, et al. are seeing Anya (lovely, personable, able to meet, greet & schmooze comfortably – and probably truly LIKES doing so, either very self disciplined when cameras are on or very hard to provoke into making a negative, quotable remark) as their reward from heaven after their failed attempts to get any marketing or PR mileage out of Gretchen.
         

      • Anonymous

        yeah, w t actual f. how do you auf the guy who knows how to make the fucking sleeves. 

    • Anonymous

      I like the new, dirty old Bert. Might be the only thing keeping it watchable.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for this excellent post. I opened it mid-rage and it calmed me as I read. Anya = same shit, different day. I cannot go on about her anymore and risk an aneurysm when she wins.

    • Anonymous

      Okay, what do the producers have on Nina? A sex tape? A video of her killing a prostitute/unpaid intern? Evidence of a drug smuggling ring? Because she was clearly NOT happy about being forced to keep Clinique around, but it was kind of hilarious to watch her tone change in the judging. 

      “THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER. The voice in my ear is demanding I give you a compliment because they’re keeping you around. EVEN THOUGH YOUR DESIGNS ARE UTTER CRAP! You seriously don’t want to know what the dirt they have on me is. IT’S ALMOST AS UGLY AS THAT ACID LEOPARD PRINT THAT EVEN BLIND PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER A BIT OVER THE TOP! But it’s good that you take risks. THE RISKS ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD TAKE! Are you happy producers, I said something kind of nice? IT WAS JUST ONE MARIE CLAIRE INTERN! I WAS DRUNK! INTERNS AREN’T PEOPLE!”

    • http://twitter.com/AileenBartels Aileen Bartels

      I haven’t been watching season 9 (no cable) and only just discovered PR last year via netflix.  I love your recaps, particularly of the rockstar challenge last week, but this season seems very disappointing.  I’m trying to find your posts about the earlier seasons in your archives, because I’m sure they are hilarious. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        put project runway into the search bar, go to the last page of results, read from there to now. it’s worth yr time, i did it.

      • Anonymous

        You can watch it online at Lifetime’s website and other sources if you type “watch [insert just about any show name here] online.”  Try Realitytvfan.org.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      the other thing right off the top of my head is that i think, w/ two obvious exceptions {laura, josh} that most of the other “designers” would have been nicer, or at least more tolerable, people amid a different season w/ a different emphasis &, w/ hope, some different people. even i finally feel bad for anthony ryan. & viktor is too bitter but i bet he was prodded into his worst. &

      i have to say though that i always liked bert. i’m just glad other people do again.

      • Anonymous

        I think Viktor is playing a character, perhaps observing that useless people *coughJOSHcough* get to stick around if they play the bitch card, and thus lessening his risk of an auf. For all his villain posturing he doesn’t exactly have much conviction in his schemes.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t think he’s posturing; I think he’s naturally suspicious and cutthroat. Granted, he is by far the most talented designer of all thus far (he hasn’t had one — ONE — remotely problematic challenge, and no, I don’t count stiltwalkers because it was both asinine and Bert’s idea), but he doesn’t seem to trust people and isn’t at all hesitant to throw anyone under the bus.

          And if he says one more time that he thinks someone is cheating I’m going to stab someone. 

      • Mary McClelland

        I’ve always been a Bert fan too. And I like his final collection alot – I don’t care if it’s “dated”

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I was on the Bert train from day 1, but then his crankiness seemed to be crossing a line I can’t handle into mean-spiritedness. It made me really happy when that meanness seemed to subside because then I could root for him again. I never stopped liking the clothes he makes, but my personal tastes tend to run to finalists-but-not winners (Chris March in his season, Laura Bennet in hers, Gordana in the L.A. season, etc.)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arjay-Gallo/1336876862 Arjay Gallo

      I don’t know. I mean, I totally understand and agree with what you guys are saying (I’d be crazy not to,) but I still enjoy watching the show, including last nights’ episode. I wonder if I’m jaded, or perhaps not jaded enough, but I’m not really putting any stake in who wins or loses or gets’ their work produced. Project Runway, as all reality shows should be, is a mindless reprieve from all the OTHER shit I have to worry about. 

      • Toto Maya

        I still enjoy watching it with my family, but I still hate what is happening to the show and wish it were better.

    • http://twitter.com/Usama_Hamayun Usama Hamayun

      Project Runway judges are such bitches for keeping Joshua on and sending Anthony home….Joshua’s cheating and copying trends have been exposed more than once, its a shame he is still there…I am sure they are gonna send him home in the last challenge when he is done creating TRPs for them….
      And by any standards Victor was the clear winner yesterday.

    • Anonymous

      Okay, next question. When did jumpsuits become jumper? When I was growing up, a jumper was a sleeveless dress in a substantial fabric worn over a blouse or knit shirt. In the UK, a jumper is a pullover sweater.

      But until last night, I never heard anyone call a jumpsuit a jumper.

    • Anonymous

      Did anyone else have Gretchen flashback when Laura Kathleen kept going on about the handcut chevrons? I though I was back in the season 8 party store challenge.

      • Eclectic Mayhem

        If you’ve held off from looking at the final collections then don’t read the rest of my comment.

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        Funnily enough, Laura’s final collection is very reminiscent of Gretchen’s collection – just more ‘lux’ I guess, a bit more refined.  I dislike Laura and really haven’t responded to her work all season but – if she makes it to the final three/four – she’s in with a shot at the win.  Sadly. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          agreed.

          i cant stand her. if i had a choice between being stuck for any length of time anywhere w/ either blenley or gretchen i would pick gretchen– & i couldnt stand her, either. i’m more used to the gretchens of this world, i guess. but blenley’s collection was better than gretchen’s. i see her as either no. 1 or no. 2, w/ viktor as the third. all behind anya, of course.

        • Mary McClelland

          Yeah – I agree. Her final collection looks NOTHING (I mean NOTHING) like the schlock she’s been sending down these runways. It makes me suspect cheating…;-)

          It’s really good and yes if she makes it to top 3 she is a definite candidate for the win.

          • Anonymous

            Her final collection looks NOTHING (I mean NOTHING) like the schlock she’s been sending down these runways. It makes me suspect cheating…;-)

            Or maybe it’s because she has more than 24 hours to design/produce clothes that aren’t for a hokie challenge? I don’t like her, but I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt.

          • Eclectic Mayhem

            The lass definitely has the construction skills so I’m sure it’s all her own work (though I do see your winking smiley’ so know you weren’t 100% serious there!).  I just don’t particularly respond to her aesthetic (or personality), at least as far as we’ve seen on the show.  But then, I’m ‘between 40 and death’ so I’m not her target customer anyway.

            I’m not too sure about the brown, flappy, Harleyquin number or the last (I think) look with the cream top and the brown, flappy, Harleyquin trousers/skirt (I think the proportions are very unflattering on that one) but it’s a good collection and I suspect it was TLo’s favourite on the day.

            It looks like Nina is gunning for her now though, she could be the Kara Janx of this season.

            • Anonymous

              Here is a challenge I would love to see:

              “Make a look for a customer who is “between 40 and death”.  

              Now I know they have the everyday woman challenge, but they never come right out and say, “Design something for an old fart with money, taste, and a gravity challenged body.

    • ALEX WILLIAMS

      Anya beautiful?  Her hair looks like she is recovering from serious brain injury that required surgery and prepping. Her look did not pass muster, yet few did.  Bert’s second look was very nice, but I’d prefer to see it on a buffed up hunk wearing sandals and an olive wreath in his hair.  But that’s me…

      • Anonymous

        i mean… i kind of hate anya for stealing anthony ryan’s money and using his dyeing skills to advance while he gets aufed, but… even i can admit she’s pretty stunning.

        not as stunning as a.r. though. :D

    • ALEX WILLIAMS

      Josh had horrible looks.  He is being kept for the drama he brings.  What a douche – and what douchey producers. Not really a competition when it is clear who is being set up to win. 

    • Anonymous

      a.r.’s big mistake was he missed the part about glamour.  they wanted clothes for studio 54, not for a love-in at the park.  evening wear would have been a safe way to go for this challenge.

    • Anonymous

      I can’t help but call total bullshit on both the win (should have been Viktor or Bert) and the auf (should have been Josh). What else is there to say? At least I got some LOL moments with Laura’s confessionals. She is sooooo deluded, it’s hilarious. But, I swear if the words “I’ve never” or “I don’t know what I’m doing” come out of Anya’s mouth one more time, I will shoot my TV faster than Elvis on meth.

    • Anonymous

      Poor Anya! She lost her money, was thrown down a flight of stairs, had her arms amputated but still managed to sew a sack-cloth shift with her feet and won the competition! What a trouper! : )

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        there you go.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      BOOOOOOO!!!! The judges panned Anya’s $11 look, yet loved both looks from Bert and Viktor. This is so unfair. Boooooo!

      I agree with the auf. Both of Anthony’s looks were awful.

    • Anonymous

      ” It’s simply this: people in fashion are naturally going to respond well to beautiful people.”

      Then how did Gretchen Jones win?

      • http://www.tomandorenzo.com Tom and Lorenzo

        We don’t know why so many people are having such a hard time with such an innocuous statement as the one you just quoted but:

        a) Gretchen worked as a model
        b) We never said that only attractive people win Project Runway

        • Lisa

          I get what you mean – and it’s true.  Take me, for example – since I gained 30 lbs, people don’t respond to me as well as they used to – it’s just a fact of life.  Not a pleasant one, but it is true.  It’s not fair, and it sucks, and it’s presumptuous, but that’s life.

          • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

            lisa:
            make sure you dont forget about making yrself look nice. my weight goes up & down & i hate it, & i forget about even basic care sometimes cos i hate gaining weight so much. dont you do that. cos i’ll tell you a secret: if you fuss over yrself the way you did when you were thinner, the world is gonna notice much less how much you weigh & much more how nice you look. it’s really true, i promise you.

            ps. i have no idea how gretchen worked as a model. i mean, i believe it &, in truth, i do know it {i remember being shocked, years ago, when i worked as one myself, how so many were not pretty just very tall & very thin}. still. wow.

            • Anonymous

              I believe she did print work, and she does have a desirable “model” figure for that: tall, slender, good facial structure, small chest. Some people are really attractive in person, but not very photogenic. The opposite is also true. 

            • Anonymous

              Yeah, it’s one of the things that I think must separate really good photographers from the herd – being able to tell how people will read on film. (dated technology, but i’m old)

              The most successful model I knew (not all that) looked like a characiture (spelling?) in person but she photographed as very beautiful woman.

            • Anonymous

              She modeled for Horny Toad activewear and casual wear. They are a kind of granola-y, Northwest company. (Their products are actually really great.) And they use earthy and athletic women as models.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              And buy the right size.  You’re the same size whether you force yourself into one smaller or not, so you might as well get the size that fits and doesn’t add 20 lbs by being too tight. 

            • Lisa

              Yes, I’m doing all that – making myself look nice and buying properly fit clothing.  Still doesn’t change that I’ve been judged more negatively since I’ve gained weight.  That’s the way it is.

            • Lisa

              Yes, Edi, I’m doing all that – the hair, the makeup and the clothes all look good, thanks though.

    • Anonymous

      I loved this show and I hardly even watch anymore. After last night’s show, I commented here that I cannot even pretend it is a fashion competition. it is just a drama where the manipulative bitchy people get to stay and win. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NCE7HCMDQDBIQ2ZVGSZPRYSPYA L

      Am I the only one who reads BM and thinks Bowel Movement? Yes? No? Maybe it’s a personal problem.

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Yes, I thought it d/t to being a nurse…  

    • Lisa

      Here’s the way I see it – Anya is simply a slightly more talented, nicer version of Gretchen.  Meaning – I think she was truly the producer’s pick to win this thing from the very beginning, and no matter what hideous thing she sends down the runway, there’s no way in hell they’re sending her home.  And it sucks for people like Viktor, and for this particular challenge, Bert too (even though Bert’s dress will be sold, it’s not the same as the win).  And the times she’s won, it’s been for designs that are clearly at least secondary to garments Viktor has created.  But as TLo correctly pointed out – it’s a gameshow.  And yeah, that’s true – but it was a little less blatantly a gameshow when it was on Bravo.

    • Anonymous

      The second challenge was added to make sure the designers made something that Piperlime would sell. Piperlime did not want separates – they wanted a complete look in one piece because that’s more eye-catching and because they didn’t want to be stuck with a nice top and sucky bottoms, or vice versa. And the limit was only $50 to make sure it would come in at a Piperlime price point. Nothing to do with Anya losing her money. It seemed to pain Tim to announce the second challenge, because it was all about pleasing Piperlime.

    • Anonymous

      The whole thing with Anya losing the money and no one knowing were it was even though they have cameras everywhere and the store is closed so no customer could have picked it up, was so fake. Then they get an extra $50 to make an other garment. Both of her looks were pretty bad. The fabric and silhouette of the second look that they raved over is so ugly and unflattering. Fooey.
      I think Anthony Ryan was sent home over Josh partially because Josh has much stronger technical skills. It’s so odd that Josh pooh-poohed Becky’s ability to sew (like it’s a bad thing) . But Viktor has the strongest skills of all,  I’m almost certain that he pattern made and sewed the dress that won the HP challenge for Anya. That’s probably why he was so unwilling to help her again.

      • Mary McClelland

        I agree about Viktor. I think he and Bert are everyone’s go tos for help, but then all the designers snark on them behind their backs. I definitely think Viktor made that dress for her because it was SO out of her repertoire and so beyond her technical capabilities. Poor Viktor – I like him.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        she always comes up w/ some odd problem to overcome, doesnt she? one that always makes her stand out from the others in a plucky & slightly courageous way?

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          And still can’t finish a garment that requires 3 seams in time for the show.

    • Anonymous

      “Nice, sweet contestants who make something boring are always going to
      get auf’d in favor of keeping the asshole who made something offensively
      bad.” 

      THIS.  This is all I could think about all night long.  As soon as the episode started I knew that Anya was the win and Anthony Ryan was out–I’m pretty sure this is the challenge he based his final runway on.  But still, even if that is the nature of the show, how upsetting.  Josh’s look seemed to literally hurt the judges eyes.  And on that note, how did Burt sneak in a pseudo-win with his first model’s ass hanging out all over the place?

    • http://twitter.com/thelilerin erin l.

      I’m heartbroken about Anthony Ryan, truly.

    • margaret meyers

      Anthony was out of his depth.  He was still in Louisiana designing for quirky college girls and homey local gals at the bar.  His fabric choices were awful and his color palate was depressing.  His girls w e r e boring girls who get their earnest masters degrees and date the same boy for 8 years, expecting nothing from him or from the world, but like to wear something sturdy and a little quirky.

      • Anonymous

        yikes. harsh. actually, ryan’s pretty hipster for baton rouge. … it’s still for baton rouge, but it’s something.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          i can think of at least one more very interesting person in baton rouge.

    • Anonymous

      I hate Olivia.  That is all.  #TeamWhitneyPort.

      • Anonymous

        what a vapid bitch. i wanted anthony ryan to bitchslap her. 

    • Anonymous

      OMG– that pic of Heidi in her dress….like TLo said, hard on!  Puh-LEASE.  And when you go to Piperlime, Bert’s tasteful dress is sold out but you can still buy Anya’s jumpsuit which to me looks tacky.  

      I’m so glad you guys are being telling it like it is with this Producer bullshit.  It’s embarrassing and the show is going seriously downhill.

      • http://twitter.com/warontara Tara

        I was just about to comment that Bert’s dress sold out! Man! I wanted one, too. Guess I should catch things in real time so I know what’s available.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think much about this season is TERRIBLY different from any other season. The wins are calculated the losses are what matters – The ONLY win that matters is the last one. Antony’s trajectory was hot glue gun, to one of the ugliest garments ever on Runway, the team gym suit to this which, the separates look ESPECIALLY is dead ass ugly. If ya cant see that – well I don’t know what to tell ya. Anya will be a finalist and probably should be. Who else is top three? Viktor, Anya and someone else…Josh maybe or Bert will be this years Wendy Pepper when the race is really between Anya and Viktor. In between day one and the end of every season – the aufs matter the rest is good fun and so far the creme has risen to the top in the end.

      • Anonymous

        I think what strikes me about this season is that I can visualize killer looks from virtually every other season – may not which season or which designer, but there were memorable looks.  I don’t really recall a standout from this season.  Maybe the stilt jacket – but that probably won’t stick in my head for long.

        • Anonymous

          The talent is a little thin this year I definitely agree – but I sincerely do not think the formula has changed much at all.

    • Anonymous

      PS: Anya dresses EXACTLY like Mrs. Roper.

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        I love you so much for this comment.  Mrs. Roper, ha!

        • Lisa

          Me too!

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          LOL Full on Mrs Roper!!!!  Esp. that fug caftan!

        • Anonymous

          LOL hahaha! OMG you made me laff.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1241487378 Lauren Lynch Fox

      Did not like the show this week, but it did remind me of shopping with my Mom in the Tribout shop of Wannamakers…..and all  I could see was a DVF orange and white wrap dress that she wore then…..and none of them made a wrap dress….which….is still in fashion. anyway, a good memory :)

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        Victor made a wrap dress.

    • http://twitter.com/qrter Alexander Peterhans

      Maybe I’m insane, but to me Anya’s pantsuit thing looks overly literal. (And very, very dull.)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7NGRAJ4JE6FUBD53LSF4GCXBDA Dean

      Is it me or you guys overlooked the fact that Viktor was a mean person. Sure it is a competition but to say such things about not wanting to help a fellow contestant just caused it is a competition is downright nasty. All the praises for this mean person is very telling of soul is very black. Anthony may have lost this challenge, but he is a winner to us for having such a beautiful soul. Shame on you TLO for not highlighting this fact. Fame last 15 mins, but your actions will be remembered forever. 

      • Anonymous

        Well, maybe Viktor helped her in the past (HP print challenge) and has washed his hands of it. And while people have helped others sew in the past, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a season where so much help was consistently offered to one person. Further, Anya pretty much admitted that with fewer designers, she’s not going to help anyone anymore either.

        • http://twitter.com/qrter Alexander Peterhans

          Agreed, she has gotten a LOT of help. And I mean a LOT.

          • Lisa

            Hell yes.  She’s the only designer who has had a ridiculous amount of help from nearly everyone else.

      • http://www.tomandorenzo.com Tom and Lorenzo

        We are awash in shame because we didn’t mention exactly what you wanted us to mention. Yes, our very souls are black.

        • scottyf

          I have a cat o’ nine tails you boys can use during your flagellation and mea culpas, if you like.

      • http://twitter.com/qrter Alexander Peterhans

        Did you miss the bit where Anya talks to Laura about Kimberly’s design, saying how they should tell her it’s not working, but you know what, they won’t, because this is a competition after all? And this was after everyone minus Viktor pitching in to help Anya?

        I’m not saying Anya should’ve been honest to Kimberly, I am saying that I’m not sure which is worse, Viktor’s or Anya’s approach.

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          Anya clearly didn’t feel she needed to say anything to Laura either…..

      • Anonymous

        Did I miss something?  Is this the “Be Nice” reality show?  I don’t think it is inappropriate to withhold fabric, expertise, sewing machine repair skills, etc. from a competitor.  Do we expect foot ball teams to carry the ball for their opponents?  I have yet to see this episode (crushing ennui re this season and a busy schedule) but I gather he said he wouldn’t help Anya this week.  Based on the comments in this blog, it sounds like Viktor could produce haute couture and lose to a same ol’ same ol’ produced by Anya.  Could make a guy a little bitter…

      • http://inkyheels.tumblr.com Inky Heels

        I’d be getting mean too if my skilled work kept getting passed over for clearly substandard work.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4AZYKFDGYZTFQJML25GU4RJBUQ Anh-Thu

        It’s just you.

      • Lisa

        Really?  Really!?  So Viktor has a black soul, Anthony is a shining beacon of decency, and TLo should be ashamed because it’s a competition and Viktor was the only one smart enough to not want to help a competitor?  Okay, good to know.  I mean, on the show *I* watched, Viktor simply decided not to lend her any advantage.  Apparently on the show *you* watched, Viktor ran over Anya’s puppy in the driveway.

      • http://twitter.com/evergreen_g G and G

        You can fall over AR’s angelic face and southern twang but the boy is not innocent. On a designer dish video on Lifetime.com, he claimed he gave Anya his change and some extra fabric simply because he likes her. He also said that had it been Bert who had lost the money, he and the other designers (which I’m assuming he meant Josh, Anya, Laura, and himself AKA “the clique”) would not have offered any help at all. What a rotten thing to say especially knowing that Bert saved Laura from being over-budget during the Sheepdog challenge, an act of generosity towards someone who isn’t necessarily a friend. It’s a freaking reality gameshow where all the contestants are hungry for the prize (except maybe Bert)…I say all the young gays and pretty girls on this show are playing dirty.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll be interested to see how Anya fares, execution-wise, with Anthony Ryan gone, as he’s been one of her biggest helpers in the competition so far (after seeing the nicely done red piping on his shirt from last week, I’m certain he did the same nicely done piping on Anya’s literally half-assed pants). He obviously didn’t have what it takes to win the competition, or even end up in the top three, based on his final collection, but he’s sweet and I hate to see him go over Josh’s nightmare pants.

    • H H

      I don’t know if anyone has pointed it out (sorry, not enough time to read all the comments!) but Bert’s dress was sold out within hours (on Piperlime) but Anya’s creation is still available.

      I will buy Bert’s dress when it becomes available.

      This, to me at least, begs the question: whose garment won? 

      • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

        You had to order early the next day to get one.  

    • http://profiles.google.com/mochizukisan kyasarin mochizuki

      I thought I’d check out how they did Bert’s dress…and it’s sold out. 

      Plenty of Anya’s jumpsuits, though.

      *cough*

      *ahem*

    • http://twitter.com/Alloyjane Alloy Jane

      I am removing Project Runway from my DVR season pass.  Normally I keep the eps and watch them a few times, but I haven’t bothered watching more than once on any of the eps and have already deleted most of them.  ARs outfits may have been ridiculous, but they had nothing on Joshua’s.  That guy needs a solid beating.  “WAAAAH WAAAAAH I don’t know what 70s —” ***THWACK***  With a baseball bat or a tire iron.  And while he’s unconscious stuff him into those shitty clothes he made and dump him in Alphabet City or Washington Heights.

      Too much?  I’m just angry that these morons have ruined PR.  I used to love the show so much…

    • Anonymous

      You could see it coming.  You know she was going to dye.   And the second dress “twist”?   You could see Tim’s demeaner.  It was not a “twist.”  It was a set up.

      I MISS PROJECT RUNWAY!!!  I’m sorry for the outburst, but I keep thinking back to the first few seasons, and I miss it.  Why would/did  they change it?

    • http://happyhealthyhopeful.tumblr.com Em

      Anyone notice that bert’s look sold out and anya’s is still up for grabs? Uhhhh I think that says more than anything/

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017585103 Kanani Fong

      Anya’s jumpsuit looks like something a woman would wear on her “puffy” days. It’s the type of outfit you see over and over on women dashing out of the house until it becomes as passé as a large t-shirt worn over leggings. If I think ahead to the final collections shown at fashion week, what Anya reminds me of is a less skilled and talented Uli.
      As for Anthony’s look, it was a little like Oregon or Ozarks 1970. He was a sweetheart for giving her his change, but being that Anya was bird dogging the register and the camera was on him, he had little choice. His looks were awful, but I don’t think he’s the one who should have gone home. That should have been Josh.
      I’ m baffled by the love the judges have for Anya’s work, the the long-lasted tolerance that they have for Josh’s.

      • Anonymous

        I was thinking the same thing when I watched. Anya is a less talented Uli. Anthony’s look especially that dreadful vest reminded me of something that Gretchen would have made for her final collection. A Midwestern couch cover.
        I assumed that after everyone had paid that they couldn’t return any of their items to help Anya and that Anthony was the only one who had left over money. If I was on the show, I would spend every last penny of the money they give for each challenge.

        • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

          Anthony returned some notions he purchased to give Anya money.  You usually cannot return cut yardage unless there is a flaw.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor’s finished designs were miles ahead of anyone else so, naturally, he didn’t win. Why don’t the judges just get it over with and sleep with Anya. The lovefest is vomit inducing and this show is boring as hell. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1476648069 Scott Cooper

      Well, the proof is in the pudding.  Bert’s look sold out.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I tried to buy it but I was too late.  I did not purchase Anya’s thing.  It’s still available.

        • Lisa

          And it’s still ugly.

          Hope you get another shot at buying Bert’s dress – good luck!

    • Anonymous

      I too knew Tim showed to throw Anya a bone.  His face said everything.  Anya certainly knows how to pick beautiful fabrics but that alone can’t make a top designer. She essentially wears all of the ideas she owns, she just picks her PR versions in a different pattern.  This season has turned into two shows.  The fashion school version of MTV’s real world and Viktor’s design show.   Occassionally, Bert wanders into Viktor’s show with an elegant well executed, forward thinking garmet.  Viktor is so head and shoulders above the rest of the designers it’s criminal.   Alas, he won’t win. He’s clearly competing on the wrong show.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kjarnsaxa Kris Jarnsaxa

      There actually was more to the 2nd challenge than just “make another one.” For the first look, they were explicitly told to make separates and for the 2nd it was to be a one-piece. Granted that may not be all that much of a difference, but it was a difference nonetheless.

    • Anonymous

      I love that they cut boring designers instead of the dramatic ones. The show would never have become popular or even still be on the air if someone like Wendy Pepper had been cut early in the first season or Santino in the following.

    • Anonymous

      So Bert’s dress is sold out and both of the looks chosen look like luxurious pajamas.  Fucking Hell.  

    • Anonymous

      I used to plan my week around watching Project Runway.  I almost didn’t watch this season after the horrible Gretchen season but did watch the first episode, caught just the runway part of the second and third episodes, and that’s it.  Haven’t watched it since and don’t miss it.  The show has declined so much that it’s too sad to watch it in its current condition.  I used to actually get wowed by the looks people came up with.  I haven’t seen a wow this entire season.  I’m hoping it’s the current crop of designers and that next season will be worth watching. For now, I get all I need to know about it from TLo.

    • Anonymous

      you know, Victor’s hissing this season about ‘this is competition’ annoyed me at first, but everything so obviously rigged, I’d want to give people as few extra advantages as possible, too. Especially since he keeps getting screwed by the judging.

    • Anonymous

      My two cents – the way Anya used the print on her dress (vertical on top and horizontal on bottom) is not flattering, makes the model look wide from the waist down. I wouldn’t wear it.

    • http://profiles.google.com/pkillilee Patrick Killilee

      Interesting that Bert’s dress has sold out and Anya’s hasn’t.  Granted Bert’s was cheaper, but his obviously has more retail appeal.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FFDS5CSRELSI2NHBM3JMEHKANE KristinC

      Anya is the only designer on this season who has made anything that is even remotely interesting. Everything everyone makes is either boring or completely ugly. At least she has made a couple things a normal human might where.

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s pieces were both a mess.  That jumpsuit looks like pajamas.  Anthony’s…well, there were worse things on that runway.  Josh keeps surviving as the resident drama queen, but really, he should have gone this week.  His looks were really not good.  

      Apparently Bert’s dress is sold out on Piperlime. I would have bought it. Anya’s jumpsuit is completely overpriced…IMO.

    • Diana Martinez

      At least Heidi looks better in the dress than the model did.   I wonder how much praise Anya would have gotten if the judges didn’t know she only had $11?  Cuz those pants were waaaay too short. 

    • Anonymous

      Anya’s — and even Bert’s — were pure Forever 21 to me. Way to Old Navy it up,  Piperlime.

    • Anonymous

      Sadly, as of today, Bert’s dress is actually sold out.  I have seen more interesting nightgowns on the Sale rack that do not look much different.  I was surprised at how much Olivia frothed at the mouth over the little silver tips on his belt.

      As if she would EVER be caught dead in that dress.

    • http://fafafab.tumblr.com/ fafafab

      I liked Anya’s win solely on the fact that it was way to slap those bitches who wouldn’t give a hand to a woman in need, when she was crying in Mood Anthony was the only one who said “here, take 10$” and I specially loved Victor’s face when she (and even Burt) won over him, cause he was the one one blabbing about “I wanna help her but I can’t” well she didn’t need his help alright, sadly, Anthony, the only nice gay man in this show, was voted off, well, he’s a winner in my eyes, he makes not wanna kill myself for being gay

    • Anonymous

      i think the producers had them make a second look for another reason. Not another as in “instead of,” but another as in “as well as.” I think the Piperlime people were getting nervous because their favorite looks were going to be too difficult and/or pricey to mass produce. I think they needed the designers to simplify. Yes, it helpedAnya, too,but I think the might have thrown it in, anyway.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, I completely agree. Everyone was doing multiple pieces for their first look.  A one-piece garment would be much likely be easier and less expensive to manufacture and market.

    • Anonymous

      I agree that Olivia Palermo was an excellent judge. She came across as a vapid dimwit on The City, so this was a pleasant surprise.
      Also, congrats to Bert, whose dress has already sold out!

    • Anonymous

      I’m really tired of Anya sending the same damn look down the runway all the time.  These two garments were basically exactly the same in shape: sleeveless, deep v-neck, big pants. 

    • http://twitter.com/KathleenGillies Kathleen Gillies

      I’m rewatching the episode and I see that Anya did try to help Anthony.  She told him she would wear every piece he made.  He commented that he was so glad he was on the right track.  Was she lying?  If not, what is this idea that her taste is so trendy and fashion forward?

      • Anonymous

        I think her stuff is a lot like Gretchen’s which they thought was on trend last year, so…I dunno.  I guess that’s it?  I don’t see anybody walking around looking like this though.

    • Anonymous

      Burt’s dress is sold out already. BAM!

    • Anonymous

      This is gold: “Although why he and Josh seemed so clueless makes no sense to us, since they were given HP dossiers on HP their HP computers HP.”

    • Anonymous

      I would so much rather have the producers replace Anya’s lost money upfront than pull these acrobatics after the fact.

    • Anonymous

      “because usually there’s some sort of twist on the idea, instead of “Make another one.””

      Really? Since when? I think “we had you make separates, now make a one piece” is about as good as they’ve ever been (which is not meant as a compliment).

    • http://www.facebook.com/claudeth.forbin Claudeth Forbin

      My prediction for the finalists.  Bert, Anya and Viktor.