PR: Weak Tea

Posted on September 02, 2011

We couldn’t help but picture Nina on her couch last night, drinking wine and snorting in derision at this debacle, thankful that she didn’t have to pretend she wasn’t looking at a runway full of Etsy castoffs.

The concept behind the challenge wasn’t a bad idea: fashion inspired by and produced in collaboration with young artists. We groaned like Viktor did when they introduced the kids, but once it became clear that the designers weren’t designing pieces for the kids, and the kids themselves would only have minor input into the designs, we breathed a sigh of relief. The only real problem was the insistence that this was an “avant garde” challenge. Bitches, please. Just call it an “inspired by artwork” challenge and leave the silly avant garde conceit out of it. It is virtually impossible for anyone to produce in less than 2 days a garment that would fullfill the judges’ rather limited definition of the term.  And besides, the criteria for this challenge barely differs from any other standard challenge except Tim told the designers not to worry about wearability and practicality. Uh…Tim? Most of them never do anyway.

There’s no better indication of the ridiculosity of this challenge than the judging panel. The arbiters of what constitutes avant garde fashion were: 1) a Victoria’s Secret model, 2)a sportswear designer, 3)an editor at Marie Claire, and 4) a shoe designer. It is, as they say, to laugh. Especially when the apparent #1 criteria among these judges was that they “see the inspiration.” “I can really see your inspiration.” “I can’t tell what your inspiration was.” What nonsense. Artistic expression – especially when you’re shooting for something strange and forward-thinking – is not about providing footnotes so the audience can easily determine what you’re saying. The very idea belies the notion of avant garde, if not artistic expression itself.

By the way, this was an uncommonly talented group of young artists, no?

Having kids in the workroom did get all the bigger kids to act in a slightly more mature manner this week.

There was a bizarre “Let’s all forget how ugly everything got yesterday” sentiment at the beginning of the episode. Don’t get us wrong; it’s admirable that everyone apparently wanted to grow up and move on, but the whole thing felt so … fake. Not exactly a shocking charge to make when discussing reality television, but with Season 9, it’s like we can really see the seams holding the conceit together.

It was Bert’s turn to get a little character rehabilitation this week and it was sorely needed. If he’d gone one more episode acting like a dick to the other designers, Heidi’s pet would have wound up hitting Gretchen levels of unpopularity with the viewership.

Interesting to note that once the phone call home became a product placement moment, they stopped being harbingers of doom. Used to be that when a designer called home, they were guaranteed to have a shitty time of it on the runway.

So congrats to Anthony. Your entry was as good a choice first place as any other, we suppose. When Heidi announced the 6 designers in the top and bottom, we had absolutely no idea which designers fell into which group. Even AFTER the critiques, we couldn’t figure out which ones were which.

Not a bad idea at all to mimic the brushstrokes of the painting. What kind of annoyed us was that was all he did. There’s no other reference to the painting. Nothing that would tie back to the themes or feelings of the painting. He didn’t even use the same color scheme.


We don’t share the judges’ need to “see” the inspiration at a glance, but it seems to us he was only inspired by one formal aspect. He might as well have made a dress inspired by the painting’s canvas or its rectangular shape. He saw was thick, bold brushstrokes and he made a dress that was nothing but thick, bold brush strokes.

But we’ll give Kenneth Cole some credit. He made some fairly good on-point critiques and he was the only one among the judges willing to insist…




… that the execution of this dress was embarrassing. We’d like to think Nina would have insisted against his win based on that alone, but Nina’s been smoking the crack herself this season, so who knows?

But not a bad concept at all, like we said. And it definitely was among the more interesting entries last night. It’s eyecatching and headturning and veers ever so slightly away from ready-to-wear, which was good enough for the extremely middle-of-the-road judging panel to declare it avant garde.

And it’s Auf2: Electric Boogaloo for Josh C.

To be honest, we kind of felt it was a bit cruel to bring him back. He clearly had a hard time handling the pressure and he never once made anything that the judges liked.

This looks like something from the costume closet of an old ’60s Hammer Horror film. Dracula’s Go-Go Daughter on Carnaby Street!

The judges all acted like he had such a great concept to work from, but frankly, we can’t imagine any wolf-themed look that wouldn’t have been criticized.

The blouse isn’t bad and we suppose that yoke/vest thing provided some interest.

But really, it was the horrifying skirt that most likely sealed the deal for him.

Here’s the thing: it’s all bad, and we absolutely think it’s better to get rid of Josh now than string him along, but let’s face it: there’s a hair’s breadth difference in quality and expression between this and quite a few of the other designs. It was a bit ridiculous seeing the judges wildly over-praise looks like Anthony’s and Josh M’s and then turn to this and act like it was somehow much, much worse. Bad, yes. But if we were to scale the looks with Anthony at a 10, this is really only at about 7.5 in comparison.

It was almost painful watching the delusion coupled with the just-under-the-surface hysteria. If we heard that high-pitched nervous giggle one more time we were going to lose it. His goodbye scene with the designers and Tim had so many high-pitched yelps and trills that it sounded like he had a combination of chronic hiccups and Tourettes.

 

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    • Anonymous

      Didn’t agree with the win or the auf, but am ok with both decisions.
      I liked Zanna. Even though I hope this never happens, I can see her as a possible replacement for Nina if she ever decided to leave. And if not, at least she has her job playing Joan on Covert Affairs to fall back on…

      • http://profiles.google.com/eszubert Elizabeth Szubert

        Thank you!!  I could not place where I saw her before.  :)

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDI2DLE7DE3YPW2ONIHBWOVHMA ecallaw

          That is NOT Joan from Covert Affairs.

      • http://dandelion.livejournal.com/ Jenna

        With Anthony Ryan, a lot of people have complained that he didn’t use the colour scheme – but I’m not sure, given his colourblindness, that he actually realised that he wasn’t using it. All the outfits he’s produced use a very similar scheme and I’m wondering whether that’s because it’s all he can see.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1380079551 Marie Dees

      “Designers, after reviewing your childish behavior last week, we decided you needed to collaborate with more mature team mates. So, we’ve brought in a bunch of teens. Bert, Clinque, we’d like you two to pay particular attention.”

      • Anonymous

        At least Bert did!

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t watch the show last night (no cable) and looking at the runway photos this morning, I was sure that the challenge was to work with material you find in a kindergarten classroom.   You’re telling me it was avant-garde?  Hah hah hah.

    • Sea Elle

      The young artist who painted that wolf blew me away. What a talent. That painting was the best thing on the show last night!

      • Anonymous

        She does have talent but all of could think of is that she is probably way too into the Twilight series. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          i agree w/ both the talent & the twilight comments. but it was definitely the best painting.
          i just wanted to add that i noted we saw the designers paint the paintings w/ the kids, which was unusual. i also noticed that josh c’s sketches were very good –in fact, they were surely among the best– so he at least possibly contributed to the painting as well. just a weird mix, i think, him & the show, at least this season. i cant say he is as untalented as all that.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          i agree w/ both the talent & the twilight comments. but it was definitely the best painting.
          i just wanted to add that i noted we saw the designers paint the paintings w/ the kids, which was unusual. i also noticed that josh c’s sketches were very good –in fact, they were surely among the best– so he at least possibly contributed to the painting as well. just a weird mix, i think, him & the show, at least this season. i cant say he is as untalented as all that.

        • Anonymous

          And did anyone notice how much she looked like Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kimberly-Burke/100002384493067 Kimberly Burke

        I know, right?  My mouth popped open when they showed the finished painting.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kimberly-Burke/100002384493067 Kimberly Burke

        I know, right?  My mouth popped open when they showed the finished painting.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kimberly-Burke/100002384493067 Kimberly Burke

        I know, right?  My mouth popped open when they showed the finished painting.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kimberly-Burke/100002384493067 Kimberly Burke

        I know, right?  My mouth popped open when they showed the finished painting.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kimberly-Burke/100002384493067 Kimberly Burke

        I know, right?  My mouth popped open when they showed the finished painting.

      • Anonymous

        I know! Loved the tail.

      • Anonymous

        was she wearing the christopher kane star fabric?  similar to Sam Cam (for example)?

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      I thought Anthony Ryan’s dress was a disaster. It was like the birdseed dress but with the muslin showing through and less nutritious. Wish that Josh Mormon had done the full-on furry headdress and ruby heart version of his look. At least if he went out it would be with a bang. Or he might have won–because they would have been able to see his inspiration.

      • http://profiles.google.com/denise.alden Denise Alden

        I agree with you about Josh Mormon:  I would have ditched that “Pirates of the Caribbean Vampires” blouse and gone full tilt with the furry headdress and ruby heart.  So much cooler, and edgier.

        • Anonymous

           I was sad to see that he cut out the ruby heart that he was working. Even if he just made that in to a necklace and used some different materials besides cheap looking pleather… this look would have been 100xs better.

      • Anonymous

        Yes!  I thought it looked exactly like the birdseed dress too!  It looked like he just glued a bunch of fraying fabric shapes to the same shaped dress as the birdseed one!  And he didn’t even hem it!  What??

        • Anonymous

          yep, he was the one wielding the glue gun again last night. Oh, yes, and Olive Juice, but we’ll get to him later…

          They shouldn’t even have access to glue guns.

          • Anonymous

            and don’t forget laura!  she was shown gluing all of her ruffles on too.
            i don’t know if this particular cast really does make things more slap-dash than past contestants, or if the 90-minute episodes just allow us to see more of this behavior than previous seasons.  either way, it’s really starting to bother me, especially six episodes in!

        • Anonymous

          And Michael Kors praised him for not finishing the hem! I forgot about that. He thought the unfinished hem worked with the concept of the dress. I don’t see how. The concept was brush strokes fading into nothingness, not incompleteness.

          (I did like the dress, though)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        Josh Mormon totally whimped out. He designed out of fear.

      • Anonymous

        or he could have made a wild ass coat – a furry one – something – anything but that “less nutritious” dress (loved the way you put that Judy!

      • http://profiles.google.com/singingraisin ali meowmeow

        I’m pretty appalled by the win, as well. Disaster is a good word for it. There really wasn’t any “design” to the dress, only to the arrangement of the shit he glued to it. If you want to go that route, fine, but at least make it look finished. Some different fabric choices could have made those unfinished edges look a lot less atrocious. Ugh.
        I don’t really mind the use of glue (I sew, and even 2 days is an absurdly short period of time to make shit) so I don’t mind when they don’t waste time with handsewing, so long as shit isn’t horribly, horribly obviously glued. Like this.

        … I just really, really hate this dress. I would have more easily accepted that Mormon Josh won over this.

    • http://www.gregmce.com Greg McE

      I felt bad for Josh (even though his Bavarian Vampire Hunter outfit he made was hideous, both before and after his tweaks) but better he be put back out of his misery now, rather than let him keep flailing all over again. The sour-faced drop-out (I’ve already forgotten her name) has a lot to answer for.

      • jeneria

        I do, too.  Josh C at least embraced his artist’s painting and attempted to incorporate the spirit of it.  It might have failed in terms of proportion, but at least he tried.  Olivier and Bert totally punted.  They both disliked the challenge and half-assed it.  You can’t seriously expect me to believe that Bert had any sort of feeling or attachment to his outfit.  Olivier knew his wasn’t good, but he didn’t even attempt to correct it.  Ugh!  I would have auf’ed Bert or Olivier and kept Josh C for one more round.

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t notice it last night and missed parts of the show, but oh my God, that wolf looks like it’s chest has been cracked open.   Is this a depiction of open heart surgery or something?  

      • Terence Ng

        Yes, she intentionally painted the exposed rib cage and the heart inside. Josh’s earlier piece had that and a red beading of some kind referencing it.

      • Terence Ng

        Yes, she intentionally painted the exposed rib cage and the heart inside. Josh’s earlier piece had that and a red beading of some kind referencing it.

        • Anonymous

          Thank you!  I missed so much of the episode that just seing the pic kind of threw me off. 

    • scottyf

      I think Joshua C. misunderstood the instructions.

      I think he heard: “Make something inspired by a work of art that YOU would want to WEAR to an avant garde event.”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

        scottyf, you’ve made my day with this comment!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

        scottyf, you’ve made my day with this comment!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

        scottyf, you’ve made my day with this comment!

    • Anonymous

      I am a bit stupified by the quality level showing in this challenge……Anthony’s idea: great. Execution for a two day challenge: appalling.

      • Anonymous

        I just assumed that the ragged edges were an intentional effect, especially since he left the bottom hem undone.

        • Anonymous

          i think he said the unfinished hem was intentional.  but for him to glue-gun all of the “brushstrokes” on is appalling.  i can’t believe the amount of non-sewing that’s still going on in this season!

          • Anonymous

            I can definitely excuse the raw edges, but there’s no excuse for not sewing the “brushstrokes” to the background garment. I haven’t seen so much glue-gun usage since Santino in season 2—and he still did more sewing than most of these wannabes.

          • Anonymous

            I can definitely excuse the raw edges, but there’s no excuse for not sewing the “brushstrokes” to the background garment. I haven’t seen so much glue-gun usage since Santino in season 2—and he still did more sewing than most of these wannabes.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Heather-Waddell/10401341 Heather Waddell

          I thought so too. I felt like the ragged edges made them look more like brush strokes. They blended a little at the edges like brush strokes do.

          • Anonymous

            How convenient!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=768540908 Badriya Al-Badi’a

      I so wish Josh C had stayed with his original over the top wolf queen concept with the fake fur mantilla train–I thought the sketch looked interesting, and it couldn’t have been worse than what he did actually do, and it would have been much more from the heart, both his and his artist’s.  Kind of a Galliano*/Brotherhood of the Wolf thing.

      *not to get into what he said/did, because it was reprehensible and I hope he is getting help, but his French Revolution collection remains one of my most favorties ever.

      • Anonymous

        i went to look at the French Revolution collection.  you are right.  breathtaking!

      • Anonymous

        i went to look at the French Revolution collection.  you are right.  breathtaking!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002673395871 Roadkill Writer’s Camp

        Absolutely agree. He edited out what might have been the best parts. Tim said don’t be literal, but the judges seemed to want literal. Anyway, there’s something to be said for Go Big AND Go Home. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/gillianholroyd gillian holroyd

      I liked the paintings much more than the outfits.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1464580879 Sarah Oleksyk

        I was thinking the same thing. Those kids were fantastic! And how freakin’ cute was Skye?

        • Anonymous

          Skye will be a contestant on Season 19 (should it ever get that far), mark my words.
          And I can’t wait until that happens. :D

    • Anonymous

      I loved what Anthony’s look was in two-dimensions, but hated the execution. It was very craft project, very glue-gun, and only Kenneth Cole had the balls to say so, so good for KC. The fact that he got the win anyway just proves that guest judges are decorative.

      Josh C. needed to go because he’s an emotional basketcase (heh) who should never be near any competition ever, but really, there were much worse looks on that runway. Frankly, before they called out names, I thought Bryce would be in the bottom, although clearly he wasn’t getting a loser’s edit.

      Olivier’s look was a pile of garbage and he’s not long for this competition.

    • Anonymous

      It seems to me that any contestant would do well to study up on the PR version of avant garde before filming ever starts.  I mean it, do your homework and watch every avant-garde episode from every season, figure out what the judges liked and what they made cruel fun of.  It is likely to feature in at least one challenge.  If you had some vague idea of what you wanted to do, you could probably get a couple of hours head start on the majority of designers who stare at their mannequin or stare into space figuring out just how to be avant garde.

      I’m with tignor, didn’t agree with the win or the auf.  However, I thought Josh C was a great good sport about his second auf-ing.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I think that’s true of most challenges — if you have a decent memory, you could really work out in advance some basic ideas and just pull them out for whatever challenge is most appropriate. 

        • Anonymous

          I know!  They should teach a class at all the design schools – Project Runway 101.  This blog would be required reading.

        • Anonymous

          I know!  They should teach a class at all the design schools – Project Runway 101.  This blog would be required reading.

      • Anonymous

        But then you might unconsciously copy a design from an earlier season. :-)  You can’t win.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=768540908 Badriya Al-Badi’a

      It is a depiction of Teen Angst.

    • jeneria

      Bert’s design looked like a fly girl reject and Laura’s dress looked like Carrie 2: The Golden Years.  I thought Olivier’s was by far the worst.  He totally missed the challenge and put out a bad dress.  At least Josh C attempted to fall within the challenge, Olivier couldn’t even be bothered.  I really liked the Prarie Straightjacket look (was that Bryce’s).  But honestly, I was so confused because the ones they announced as safe were the more interesting outfits and the six left on the runway were middling to terrible.

      • Anonymous

        One blogger nailed Laura’s as Belle in Beauty and the Beast. The blogger also noticed—as did I—how Laura was praised for the black boning showing through her bodice when the same thing nearly got Kayne eliminated in the couture challenge in season 3.

    • http://www.facebook.com/charlotte.horseman Charlotte Horseman

      When I saw Josh M’s orange and brown mess, I immediately thought of Faline’s orange and brown mess.  She got Auf’s for the color palette, no?   When the judges praised Josh M… I felt like I was in a twilight zone…  And, next week is another team challenge??  Not sure I can bear it…

      • Anonymous

        Not only did she get auf’d but I believe MK said that one would have to have “candy corn teeth” to wear something like that.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, he did.  Seriously, my lack of respect for MK grows every week.  He is just an orange, mean bitch with no point of view.

      • Anonymous

        I totally agree. Josh M’s color palette was very similar to Faline’s auf’able outfit. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the final product. I thought his design was hideous (avant garde or not) and I can’t believe how much praise it got. I was expecting him to be in the bottom 3.

      • Anonymous

        I totally agree. Josh M’s color palette was very similar to Faline’s auf’able outfit. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the final product. I thought his design was hideous (avant garde or not) and I can’t believe how much praise it got. I was expecting him to be in the bottom 3.

      • Anonymous

        I thought of that, too!

        I guess when you put the brown on the bottom and the red/orange puffball on top, then it’s fashion.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Yep, apparently that made all the difference between Fallene’s design and Josh M’s.

          I liked his design, but I was also thinking about Fallene when the judges were falling all over themselves about Josh’s. However, I think they did Fallene a favor by eliminating her. She was not built for this kind of competition.

        • Anonymous

          and it helps, apparently, if you’re so literal that you paint the brown to look like a tree trunk, for god’s sake!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kate-Gavin/1348043222 Kate Gavin

        Agreed, so I don’t understand how that orange and brown mess last night was praised so highly.  It’s orange and it’s brown.  Just the other orange and brown garments sent down the runway earlier this season.

        The judging, it is crazy making.

    • Anonymous

      Spot on as usual, TLo. Why, oh WHY do they always pull the same, stupid avant garde bullshit every season. I was really charmed by the kids, though. They were not only competent artists, but for the most part were very articulate and not at all intimidated. Very nice to see such smart, talented kids. I also want to second the notion that Kenneth Cole provided the only sane commentary in the judging panel.

    • Anonymous

      I really liked Kenneth Cole. I do agree that as a designer, he was an odd choice for this challenge. But he had good points and disagreed with the regulars which is something most guest judges won’t do.
      You are absolutely right in that this should have been just a “work with and get inspired by kids’ artwork” challenge. If they are going to do avant garde, they should let the parameters be looser. Really let the designers come up with their own point of view of what avant garde should be and not coming from an inspiration that may not be completely theirs. Although, I think this group would fail at a.g. no matter what their parameters are.

    • http://twitter.com/karenwalsh Karen Walsh

      “It’s like we can really see the seams holding the conceit together.”As Casnova would say: ezaaaaaaaaaaactly.

      I’m so bored by this season.  Sigh.  I would even take last season back over this one.  Yeah, I said it.

      Glad to see Bert calming down and loved his reaction when he saw his dog.

      • http://profiles.google.com/denise.alden Denise Alden

        Boy, it’s a sorry season when you just made me long for Casanova!

        • Anonymous

          come on, casanova’s stripper in dubai and other cracktastic outfits were some great  highpoints to last season. mondo, casanova, and “showing the good china” were the best things that season.

        • http://isara.livejournal.com/ Synnamin

          He was CRAYCRAY, but he was at least a sweetheart and entertaining to watch

    • Anonymous

      Anthony’s would have looked much, much better if he could have used actual fabric paint to make the large brushstrokes. Would have looked, whats they word they like to use, organic, or at the very least wouldn’t have had bits flying off down the runway.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

        Or if he had mixed painting on the fabric with some fabric strips that he had appliqued onto the fabric….

    • Anonymous

      Anthony’s would have looked much, much better if he could have used actual fabric paint to make the large brushstrokes. Would have looked, whats they word they like to use, organic, or at the very least wouldn’t have had bits flying off down the runway.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1380079551 Marie Dees

      I felt sorry for Josh C being voted out again so soon. But I keep imagining a Twilight Zone version of Project Runway where Josh C constantly returns only to be voted out the next week, leaving the other designers trapped in a perpetual state of in-fighting and bad challenges. 

      • pacconci

        Oooooo Groundhog RunDay!

    • Anonymous

      Where was the button bag?  This was a good opportunity to have the designers look at the sample canvases (that seemed to be there for no reason) and choose something that was inspiring or intriguing to them.  It seems like this season they have eliminated elements (the artists, stilt walkers, model selection) that, in the past, would have given the designers more individual expression of their aesthetic.

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        I think that might make the kids feel bad, being chosen last for the quality of their art.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          I agree. It’s bad enough they make the adults have flashbacks to gym class. There’s no point in humiliating a bunch of high school art kids too. Yikes. I hope Bunim-Murray doesn’t get wind of that idea. It could end up as one of next season’s  challenges.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          They have generally NOT allowed designers to choose in these sort of challenges, but allowed either the kids to choose or the button bag — no kid wants to be picked last.

          • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

            Good point! Let the kids have the button bag!!

          • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

            Good point! Let the kids have the button bag!!

      • JM Z

        I liked this better, actually. There was so much potential for drama, giving the designers no say into which young artist became their partner, but every one of them seemed to rise to the occasion and I loved watching that.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          viktor was ridiculously lucky to be paired w/ that kid. all his snarkiness about children & he got the smartest & most articulate among them {at least from what we saw}.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          viktor was ridiculously lucky to be paired w/ that kid. all his snarkiness about children & he got the smartest & most articulate among them {at least from what we saw}.

    • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

      If you’re going to mimic the brush strokes, why not make ACTUAL BRUSHSTROKES?  Buy some dye and paint the fabric with it — it would certainly have ended up with a more high-end look than this… I don’t even know what fabric that is, but I don’t think I want to. 

      And I find there something very sad about the fact that the Barbie designers at Mattel have done much better interpretations than this of both art and architecture.  

      • Anonymous

        Yep. I would have loved to have seen this look rendered with painted fabric.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        I know, right? He had the time to paint. Hell, if he didn’t want to paint, he could have sewn all that stuff onto the dress. Gluing should be for when you’re panicked and the show’s going to start any minute and something just fell apart and you’re all out of thread. It shouldn’t be standard practice.

        I kind of love Anthony’s dress. I think it’s really cool and unusual. And even though it’s supposed to be avant garde, it’s not, so I can say that I’d wear it in a second. He’s one of my favorites and I’m glad he won. But I’m disappointed that he didn’t put a lot more effort into the construction. Even if it’s supposed to be frayed and tattered, it should still be perfectly constructed. Otherwise, you end up with that disastrous jumpsuit Santino made for Kara.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1314915676 Harvard Bridges

      Um, why was Josh C brought back in the first place? Julie was robbed.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1380079551 Marie Dees

        I see heavy handed producer manipulation in that. If what’s her name had quit DURING the judging, the Julie would probably have stayed. I’m at the “conspiracy theory” stage now wondering if the producers stopped that from happening so they could have an excuse to bring back “a contestant of your choice” knowing Josh C would be chosen. From a contestant perspective, he seems easy to get along with and not really a threat to the win. I’d have wanted him back too. 

        • Anonymous

           It was a way to guarantee that most of them would be safe for one more week. Dog blankets got a bit of love here and there from the judges while Josh had none.

      • Anonymous

        And who knows, this just might have been a good challenge for her.  Definitely would have been more curious to see what she did with it than Josh C, or half these designers.  It might have been horrible, but at least we know it wouldn’t have been hooker or mall-ready!

      • Anonymous

        Because instead of bringing back the last auf’ed designer, as they’ve done in past seasons, they let the team choose which of all the previous designers they wanted.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Which is so unfair just within the scope of the challenge — the last team leader got to choose from FOUR people while the 3rd leader got no choice at all.  I think if they were going to let a leader choose, it should have been said from the beginning, “you can choose anyone standing here or any previously aufed designer to replace Cecilia”

    • Anonymous

      Kenneth Cole would not have been my choice for an “avant garde” challenge. 

    • Anonymous

      It makes no sense to me that Josh C got all kinds of grief for being “too literal,” and no one mentions the fact that Kimberly made a bird costume.

      • Anonymous

        EXACTLY. 

      • Anonymous

        YES.

      • Anonymous

        Haha!  So true!  :D

      • Toto Maya

        To be fair, I forgot about that one as soon as it left the runway.

      • Anonymous

        Yes. But it was a pretty well-made bird costume.

      • Anonymous

        Yes. But it was a pretty well-made bird costume.

      • Anonymous

        Yes. But it was a pretty well-made bird costume.

      • Anonymous

        Yes. But it was a pretty well-made bird costume.

    • Anonymous

      I loved Anthony’s dress. I agree it wasn’t finished properly (by a long shot!) but few of the designs were. I can picture a well-made version of Anthony’s dress, and it could be spectacular. None of the other outfits had that potential unless you start reworking parts of them.

      The problem for Josh C was he was thinking about “what the judges want” instead of just committing to his design. However asstastic one might consider Bert’s design (just for example), Bert came up with an idea and pursued it, without a lot of “Oh, no, they won’t like this, so I’ll get rid of it.”

      I knew Josh C was on the chopping block the instant he decided to get rid of the faux fur for being “too literal.” All I could think was what a great twist on Red Riding Hood it would be to give her a red-tipped fake fur hood (implying she’d made it from the wolf’s skin). But Josh edited out all the edge.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        “Asstastic”

        “I like big butts and I cannot lie.” You could fit a lot of ass into Bert’s design.

        But, yes, I agree that Josh C. doomed himself by worrying about the judges. He did it the first time around too.

    • Anonymous

      You know who would have rocked the wolf painting out of the park, Jeffrey S.

      Josh C was just the wrong designer for the wolf, it needed someone with a rock n roll or steampunk esthetic to really pull something out of it.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i think he thinks he has a rock & roll or steampunk aesthetic.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kimberly-Burke/100002384493067 Kimberly Burke

      Enh.  I pretty much think they all sucked.  I really did.  None of it was avant-garde.  I did like Anthony’s design, a lot, but my 3 yr-old niece could have glued the same crap on a basic dress and wouldn’t have had the execution issues that this thing did.  REALLY badly done.

      It was Josh’s time before he even showed up.  And this? “..sounded like he had a combination of chronic hiccups and Tourettes” is ridiculously accurate and ridiculously hysterical.  Thanks boys.  I needed that.

    • http://twitter.com/poptartsjen Pop Tarts Jen

      They definitely tried to smooth over all the drama from last week, didn’t they? Bert’s call home, plus the discussion about his husband’s death and his alcoholism, went a really long way to making him look more human.

      I was OK with the win, though I liked Clinique’s dress better. I thought Anthony had a pretty neat concept and I liked the dress, but Kenneth Cole was so right that the execution was not great. If only Nina would have been there … she could have gotten sassy too.

      I think that aufing Josh C. was the kindest thing they could have done. I agree that he probably couldn’t have designed anything off that wolf painting that wouldn’t have been terrible, but maybe leaving in some fur and making it pretty crazy could have at least gotten him through to another week. Instead, it looked like something a “True Blood” fan with limited funds would wear to a sci-fi convention.

      • pacconci

        You malign True Blood. The cocktail waitresses on that show are much better dressed.

    • Anonymous

      Yet another cracktasticly bad episode.  Seriously, could this season be any more off the rails?  I completely disagreed with the Anthony win, that was just a hot glue gunned mess with possibly the most amatuer execution of the night.  All the close up shots showed clearly this was just a mess.
      Laura Kathleen just made a pretty prom dress, a well made prom dress to be sure, but a prom dress is all it was.  Maybe avante garde to the Catholic girls school crowd she is used to dressing but…..
      Josh should have stuck to his iriginal overr the top wolf idea, either way he was leaving but at least he would have gone out with a bang.

    • Anonymous

      I actually loved the kid’s artwork. Most of the clothes were nowhere near as good.

    • Anonymous

      I actually loved the kid’s artwork. Most of the clothes were nowhere near as good.

    • Anonymous

      I actually loved the kid’s artwork. Most of the clothes were nowhere near as good.

    • Anonymous

      I actually loved the kid’s artwork. Most of the clothes were nowhere near as good.

    • Anonymous

      I actually loved the kid’s artwork. Most of the clothes were nowhere near as good.

    • Anonymous

      I actually loved the kid’s artwork. Most of the clothes were nowhere near as good.

    • Anonymous

      Kenneth Cole may have been decorative, but he was my kind of decorative. I could listen to his voice all day long.

    • Anonymous

      Kenneth Cole, master of the avant garde!  You’re right, he was a great judge – especially relative to the parade of starlets we’ve had since the show has moved to Lifetime.  I totally agreed with his criticisms of Anthony’s garment. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/kwugirl Katherine Wu

      I wanted to cheer at Kenneth Cole’s critique of Anthony’s dress! The fact that the dress didn’t seem too different in construction from the “glued on crap from the pet store” method seemed ridiculously obvious. Cool idea, yes, but begged to be taken to taken to task for that.

      • Anonymous

        I think Laura glued on all of her ruffles, but there was no comment about that.  I wonder if it was because she burned the edges so that they didn’t fray?  

        • Anonymous

          Seriously! Whatever happened to SEWING? They should rename this show Project Gluegun.

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            Heh. Maybe Anya isn’t the only one who can’t sew.

          • Kathleen Gillies

            I think she was glue basting– positioning the ruffles where they needed to be for them to stay while sewing it.

    • Anonymous

      Too bad that Josh didn’t stick with his “furry” concept. It might have been better!

    • Anonymous

      If it was between Anthony and Josh M, I was actually glad to see Anthony win, ESPECIALLY if you look at Josh M’s reaction when Anthony was announced as the winner. Clinique Counter has turned into a grade A bitch. I like what Anthony did but I do wish the execution had been a bit better. 

      Is it just me or are most of the designers this season weak compared to previous seasons? If you look at what Seth Aaron or Laura Bennett did…..do any of these designers even come close?!

      • Anonymous

        We could play match the painting to a past designer who would have done a spectacular job.

        Like Jeffrey S with the wolf, Mondo takes Berts, Rami takes Laura’s, Christian S or Chris M takes Kimberly’s,……

        In my head I can imagine how amazing those dresses/pieces would have been. Hell, most past designers I could see doing a much better job.

      • Anonymous

        It’s not just you. This is a pretty lame bunch of designers. There’s some talent in there, but it’s having a hard time coming out. Kimberly seems to be the “coming up on the outside in the horse-race” contestant. Both she and Anya are focused on the competition and the design, but Kimberly has more skill and experience than Anya. I’m also pulling for Becky, who I think may be able to crack out some good designs when she’s not being distracted by the interpersonal drama.

        As for Josh M’s reaction, that could easily have been created by editing. We don’t know when he had that expression. (As contrasted with Bert’s little cheer the other week, which was clearly on the same piece of tape as the judges’ criticism.) I’m not defending Clinique–he’s certainly demonstrated he’s a self-centered asshole who will take it personally when people don’t tell him how awesome he is–but I think the producers’ heavy hands are all over this season.

    • Anonymous

      I did not love Anthony’s, but knew it would be the winner. How sad and predictable has this show gotten when I can predict every single week what the judges will reward and what they will hate? I even knew they would pick that horribly inappropriate club outfit for Nina. Ugh. (Perhaps they need a judging switch-up a la American Idol? And some more legit casting.) Anthony’s was literal, poorly-made, and the end result was sort of interesting-ish but meh. I would’ve given the win to Josh. He painted his skirt and had a tissue-paper like top and it still did not read nearly as ‘craft project’ as Anthony’s did. I hated Josh C and found him annoying, and am not sad to see him go. But…I thought he did have the hardest painting to work with. It’s cool, but it’s so literal and specific (a detailed drawing of a wolf on a white background). Not much room for interpretation. His original version was awful, but I thought he rather saved it in the end. Can you imagine how much the judges would have ripped into his first wolf costume? This still kind of reads wolf-like, although that was due just as much to the model and her styling. (How did he get Danielle’s redhead model? Shouldn’t she have been eliminated? He was lucky, she sold the look a lot.) Josh’s overall product has been terrible, and I’m glad he’s gone, but based on this challenge alone, Bert should have aufed. And isn’t the judging ONE DAY YOU’RE IN, ONE DAY YOU’RE OUT, Heidi? Lol. Oh, I guess that doesn’t apply when it’s your favorite.

      • Anonymous

        I’d like to amend this and say Olivier could have gone just as easily as Bert. His work is equally boring, and at least Bert tried to do something he thought was avant garde (as awful as it was). Olivier just did a shitty version of what he normally does, which is blah to begin with.

        • Anonymous

          I swore Olive Juice was getting the total loser edit, I was so surprised when they said he was safe!

          • Anonymous

            I suspect the Oliv[i]er edit was intended as a precursor to either a win or an auf for him next episode.

    • Anonymous

      Josh C’s model looks like she is about to be decapitated by that garment. Add to that the styling, hair and make-up, and it’s the stuff of nightmares. 

      I had the good fortune of missing all of the show except for the runway and judging and I will say that I was appalled.  I am horrified by the workmanship–the lack of–in the winning garment. It looks even more horrendous in the photos. This isn’t Project Runway anymore, it’s Project Glue Gun.

      • Anonymous

        Project Glue Gun.

        Perfect.

    • Terence Ng

      I actually think that Anthony referenced the painting spectacularly. The painting itself is a portrait, the but strokes convey the sentiment of the work. The elongated strokes at the bottom of the dress with the condensed strokes at the top carried over. In fact, at the bottom of the stroke work on the dress, I got this sense that I was seeing the hair of the artist’s portrait. I really gasped when I saw it because it was so clear but not literal. The color scheme was reminiscent of the painting–contrasting and bold darks with watered down green split out into muted yellows and periwinkle. 

      That being said, the execution of the strokes was absolutely embarrassing. I really wish he had thought to either stitch some of them completely down, make a corset-like overlay or girdle to the same effect, or even painted some on the fabric first.

      Also, isn’t he colorblind? I wouldn’t criticize him for not using the same color scheme if he can’t differentiate between some of those colors.

      As for Josh, I think he got screwed. His original look, while literal, seemed far more avant garde than what Tim led him to believe it should be. Of course, just because Tim says something doesn’t mean you should listen or that you need to take a certain path, but come on. He had something decent and people scared him away from it. Though how he got to what he ended with, I’ll never know.

      I kept thinking of all these better takes they could have conceptualized with those paintings, but maybe it really was limitation of design through expected time management…

      • Anonymous

        Thank you, I totally agree about Anthony’s ability to reference the painting. And the model’s red hair looked like the crown he painted!

    • http://pleasewelcomeyourjudges.com/ Brian @ PWYJudges

      Anyone else get a total Tobias Fünke vibe from Josh C?

    • Anonymous

      Maybe *I’m* colorblind, but I see blue, yellow, gray, and black in Anthony’s painting. And I liked that they styled the model’s red hair to look like the “crown” he painted on his self-portrait.  The construction was embarrassing, though.

      Also, something that bugged me sooo much: Tim told someone (Josh M?) that the look should stand up without having to have a narrative. Then, the judges told the chick w/ the flower dress that they didn’t see the inspiration UNTIL she explained it, at which point they loved it.

      ALSO also, how can “No one would wear that” be a valid criticism? You’re talking about AVANT GARDE looks, which we were specifically told “don’t have to be wearable”!!!! ARGH, SMH

      • Anonymous

        Amen on all counts. There’s no explaining in fashion!  No explaining!

      • Terence Ng

        THANK you. Has the show always been this contradictory?

    • Anonymous

      Anthony’s dress was a poorly executed mess and really just another rendition of his bird seed dress.

    • Anonymous

      I really liked the winning dress, but usually when I like something, that’s means I’d wear it and it’s often considered “too simple” or “too pedestrian” for PR. Completely agree that it would have looked better if he’d attached the pieces a little better. But I do like that some of the pieces look a little frayed at the edges – I think it makes them look more like brushstrokes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hellene2 Hellene Jakinovich

      I’m so done with Olivier.  If Josh C’s weren’t so Medival Faire Dominatrix, he should have gone.  BTW, I loved Kenneth Cole!  

    • http://www.facebook.com/hellene2 Hellene Jakinovich

      I’m so done with Olivier.  If Josh C’s weren’t so Medival Faire Dominatrix, he should have gone.  BTW, I loved Kenneth Cole!  

    • Ella B. Mudge

      I just caught bits and pieces of the show last night, but did see the young artists working with the designers, and the kids were more talented and emotionally mature than most of the designers.  It leads me to wonder if the producers didn’t even let semi-normal people who are good designers into the audition in front of the judges, because this group is rather consistently lackluster and whack. 

      • Toto Maya

        Seriously, those kids could paint these spectacular works of art in just a couple of hours, and the “designers” couldn’t even DESIGN anything in two days. I mean, I understand that execution takes a while, but the design was bad on so many of them in the first place. It was kind of embarrassing.

    • Ella B. Mudge

      I just caught bits and pieces of the show last night, but did see the young artists working with the designers, and the kids were more talented and emotionally mature than most of the designers.  It leads me to wonder if the producers didn’t even let semi-normal people who are good designers into the audition in front of the judges, because this group is rather consistently lackluster and whack. 

    • http://needtherapy.tumblr.com skadi1

      This was definitely my favorite “precocious children” episode ever.  Some of that artwork was absolutely fabulous (weirdly, my two favorite paintings were paired with the two bottom designers).
      Kenneth Cole was a surprisingly thoughtful judge, but he would have been better off judging a different challenge, one with its roots in more traditional design.  He’s not a name I pair with avant garde (not that any of the designs WERE avant garde).  Actually, I was really hoping they’d move outside of the fashion industry and choose an artist as a judge, but of course, it was too much to hope for outside-the-box thinking.  Sigh.
      I miss old Project Runway.

    • Anonymous

      Well, I was out at a rehearsal an forgot to ask Mr. Technology to record the episode for me, so I missed it. I’ll try to catch it on line, but it doesn’t look as if I missed much.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      I was not impressed with any of the looks. It was all valium, except for Bert’s which may have needed a little valium to make it blend in.

      For the first time in Project Runway history: the most team challenges in one season ever!
      Is it? Why so many? Make it stop!

    • Stephen Trask

      Was it my imagination or did the judges all seem to be having a really good time not having Nina’s absence?  Makes one think that the comments by her boss a couple of weeks ago – “if you showed up wearing that dress I’d fire you” or “we’d all make fun of you behind your back” – weren’t just aimed at the contestants and their work.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      I actually really liked the challenge conceptually, though it did produce some shitastic results on the runway.  I was just so glad they were sort of behaving themselves that I enjoyed the episode immensely for that alone.  Any time I’m not squirming and waiting for the workroom to be over because it’s so uncomfortable to watch, I’ll give them three cheers.  Agree that the construction on A.R.’s was embarrassing, though I think they were looking at the idea of the dress rather than, well, the dress.  I think he’d have done better to use the “brushstrokes” to suggest the body lines under the sheath, if he wanted to reference the painting.  As it was, he referenced it better than either of the other two they picked for the top.  The technique was just off, though.  I wonder if it might have been better if the brushstrokes had been under the sheer fabric.  Maybe  used a felt, and after the glue dried, roughly pry up a back layer to get the uneven texture of the brush?  Shrug.

      I wasn’t horrified with Josh C’s, really.  He did have the best painting as a painting, but the hardest for the challenge, as far as avoiding literalism went.  Next year’s inspiration challenge will no doubt be the animals at the Central Park Zoo.  “Your inspiration is a leopard, but there will be an automatic auf if we see a single spotted print…”

      • Kathleen Gillies

        I like how one of the judges berated Josh for not being Alexander McQueen.  Maybe that is who he should have pretended to be when designing his piece.  Think “I am Alexander McQueen and I am doing a Wolf collection….. What should walk out first????”  I’m guessing a big dramatic faux fur coat, Some toothy jewelry or embellishment, a big heavy leather studded collar… Some crazy textured pant or hotpant outfit with tights and some crazy gaiters, ombre opera length gloves or arm covers with crazy long scary nails, cloven hooves shoe/booties and a big bad wolf mask…. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63FW2Y5BWUARL7PJGWK54TUDGE Carrieanno

      It’s kind of cute when Heidi shows her soft spot for Bert.  He shows occasional flashes of being a rather endearing character.

    • Gary Cox

      Thank goodness the closeted little bald Mormon is gone…..

    • Anonymous

      Anthony’s color’s did seem to  match the painting (minus the dreaded green this year).  

      The wolf outfit of Josh’s reminded me of the Lion from the zodiac challenge (in feel?)

    • Judy_J

      Anthony’s dress was interesting visually, but the construction is so bad I just can’t get on board with the judges’ decision.  Seems to me he would have done better to paint the fabric and concentrate a bit more on the construction of the garment.  Josh’s offering was just awful.  I cringed when the model came down the runway.  Really, really bad.

      • Anonymous

        Paint the fabric.  Now, there’s an idea!  I don’t know whether that would have taken it any closer to avant garde, but it would certainly have made for a better-looking final design!

    • Judy_J

      Anthony’s dress was interesting visually, but the construction is so bad I just can’t get on board with the judges’ decision.  Seems to me he would have done better to paint the fabric and concentrate a bit more on the construction of the garment.  Josh’s offering was just awful.  I cringed when the model came down the runway.  Really, really bad.

    • Anonymous

      Definitely a talented bunch of kids, but not surprising from Harlem School of the Arts: http://www.hsanyc.org

      I like Anthony’s from far away. Not avant garde, and a disaster close up, but from far away it looks good.

      I agree it’s hard to understand what the judges were thinking overall. I thought for sure Laura Kathleen’s would be in the bottom, and was surprised by all the love for Joshua’s.

    • Anonymous

      Definitely a talented bunch of kids, but not surprising from Harlem School of the Arts: http://www.hsanyc.org

      I like Anthony’s from far away. Not avant garde, and a disaster close up, but from far away it looks good.

      I agree it’s hard to understand what the judges were thinking overall. I thought for sure Laura Kathleen’s would be in the bottom, and was surprised by all the love for Joshua’s.

    • Anonymous

      Also I thought Bert’s painting was a rough one to deal with – to me it looked like random – mostly geometric shapes. 

      The painting of the crazy face, – and the non-straight straight-jacket seemed like what I might have expected to see at a fashion show. 

      Agree with most that the middle seemed more interesting  (Although I did kind of like the Laura’s and Anthony’s – despite the flaws).   I could have seen Bert going – *IF* the had not been establishing a pattern of looking at overall work.

      • Anonymous

        I think Bryce should have bound the loose ends of the sleeves around the model, like a real straight jacket. Maybe he would have made top three, or even won. Or of course he could have gone home too.

        • Anonymous

           that is why I kind of liked it and thought it had a chance.  The idea was clearly there, but not so literal that he should have been dinged for it.

    • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

      Eh, I think he took some of the color from the painting, the yellow in particular. I could have tapped either that or Josh M’s for the win. I was surprised to see Laura’s in the top 3. I agreed with the Barbie-dress critique.

      Josh C on the other hand, I called as the likely loser from the moment I saw the fake fur. For him even to have thought that was a good purchase was the sign for me. Then when he actually put it ON, I was cringing. Then when Tim told him to take it off and his revision was Dracula, I knew that all paths led to the auf. It was honestly kind of cruel to bring him back. I don’t know that bringing back Julie would have been much kinder, but this was the meanest choice of all.

      I’m beginning to wonder if the problem with this season is the talent level. As TLo have pointed out, it’s hard to see any clear finalists at this point. Maybe the cracktacular judging is becoming more pronounced as they have to sort through looks that range from “ugh” to middling, and so make up bizarre random reasons that a middling look is uhMAZing and an ugh look is light-years away from it.  Maybe I’m misremembering where we were at this point in other seasons, but at this point hadn’t at least a couple people stood out with a “wow” design or two? Do we think there’s anyone in the competition right now with the talent/vision of finalists and winners from past years? Am I being premature in looking for some standouts already?

      • Anonymous

        Nope.  There’s no one who stands out for me at all.  They are all blech.  There’s not a Mondo or a Christian or a Jeffrey S. among them.  And no one there approaches Laura B at all.  UGH. They would all be auf’d immediately in any of the other seasons.

        • Anonymous

          Or a Jay McCarroll or a Rami Kashu or a Daniel Vosovic or a Chris March or a Seth Aaron…  We could go on and on, couldn’t we?  I don’t know whether the problem is that mediocre designers were chosen or that the designers are usually given a few hours to produce their designs and the emphasis is so heavily on the drama.  But whatever it is, it has really lowered the level of work.

        • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

          And those are exactly the people I was thinking of when wondering where the standouts were! If Christian were in this season, can you imagine??

        • Anonymous

          Honestly, most of the canon fodder in previous seasons would be front runners in this season.

    • Anonymous

      This episode just confirmed the all-too-obvious fact that BM Project Runway is not REAL Project Runway and never will be.  Weren’t the winners in the middle?  They sure weren’t on the judgment runway. And while it was sad and puzzling that many of the designers had no idea what “avant garde” means in fashion, award-winning American designer Michael Kors obviously doesn’t either. When he praised Clinique’s design by saying that, if his model had had a ponytail, women would actually wear that design, I nearly fell off the sofa. How is it possible that I know more than he does?  Michael: ready-to-wear is the antithesis of avant garde.

      It is beyond me how AR’s design won.  WIthout a hem. With raggedy pieces of fabric hot-glued to a sheer dress. The painting was so much better than the design–they should have given the win to the student artist. Famous men’s footwear designer Kenneth Cole, who showed up on national TV wearing brite-white sneakers (what the….?), called him out on the sloppiness factor, and the close-ups of those primitively snipped pieces of fabric were damning, but that makes no nevermind in the hallowed halls of BM.

      Agree that Josh C. should have gone with his original idea and gone over the top with the fake fur.  But his auf-ing was a foregone conclusion.  Bringing him back was a mistake, and he was doomed.

      Michael Kors’s attempts at “mal mots” for designs he doesn’t like are becoming more and more desperate and unpleasant and not funny. I’m surprised BM hasn’t provided a writer for him. His pitiful plastering of “sponges” all over his body, while looking desperately for approval from Heidi to Marie Claire editor to Heidi again, was pitiful. A very uncomfortable moment. And say what you will about Bert’s, um, design, it looked nothing at all like “something a Teletubby would wear to a party.”

      The art students were the real stars of this episode, and their work, in general, was so much better than the designers’. And then there was that brief shot of Tim doing his robot-man chase of Swatch through Mood.  For me, that was pretty much the highlight of this scorching hot mess.

    • Anonymous

      I was stupified that the judges asked for Avant Garde and then demanded to know the “story” and the “inspiration” and so forth.   I HATE IT when designers have to explain their work in this way.  Also, Tim obviously has a different idea about what Avant Garde is compared to Heidi and the rest.  I know Bert’s was freaky but I also responded to it because he messed around with the proportions of of those pants in a way that felt odd but interesting.   I liked all the shit he sewed onto it as well.  Only because it looked like a painting versus a “story.” 

      In the end, the entire thing made no sense at all.  I think we may end up putting this season as Worst Season in Project Runway History – Yes Even Worse Than The Show Shot In Los Angeles.   

      Ugh.

      • Anonymous

        “I HATE IT when designers have to explain their work in this way.”

        At one of his shows, Elvis Costello was starting a song. He said people were always asking him about what it meant. He said, “Well, if I could have said it a different in a different way, I would have written a different song!” Always cracked me up. (Although he does a lot more storytelling these days, now that he’s a mellow old guy..)

        Anyway, I think this speaks to your point, and I totally agree with you. I think avant garde fashion should provoke a strong reaction, not just be pretty or wearable. And yes, worst season ever.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Great quote!
          My kids are Veronica and Oliver, if that says anything about my feelings for the man. :)

      • Anonymous

        And, also, as has happened before, Tim’s advice doesn’t always match the judges’ responses. Tim told Joshua the outfit has to stand on its own without explanation. The judges clearly wanted to reference the paintings (though if the producers hadn’t put the paintings on display, maybe they wouldn’t have).

    • Anonymous

      As usual the challenge was incredibly poorly defined.Why on earth were they collaborating on the paintings? Or in some cases just hovering over the kids? As somebody downthread said why didn’t they get assigned paintings (I wouldn’t want them to pick and then have some poor child be last) and then discuss the inspiration with the artist and then sketch a design there and then? Dumb. And of course throwing the avant garde bs in there just made it even more of a mess.

    • Anonymous

      Hey someone pointed to an interview with Bert – and when I read this – if it is all true,   makes me wonder how well Michael Kors would do as a contestant:   (because isn’t that his aesthetic also)

      How would you describe your design aesthetic?
      I’ve gone
      through different evolutions. My designs are calm, uncluttered, clean,
      sleek and modern. I don’t go for that wow, over-the-top, shock factor
      that I think a lot of designers like. I try to design something that a
      woman can really wear—something that can be shown on the runway and
      easily be worn everyday; something a woman gets a lot of wear out of. My
      designs are pure and simple. They’re aesthetically understated without
      being boring and intellectual in the way they’re constructed.

      • Anonymous

        MK would say, “it’s clothes, but not necessarily FASHION”

    • aussiegal77

      Wow, the close ups of Anthony’s design really cemented Kenneth Cole’s critique that it was not very well executed at all. 

      I agreed with the winning and the auf’ing decisions but overall, I was totally confused once again what the Judges were looking for when they said avant garde. Was surprised they praised Josh M and Laura – Josh’s was kinda ugly, even the skirt although it had interest and Laura’s was just a gown. A pretty gown but avant-garde? Not by a country mile. And Bert’s pregnant pants were a major disaster! Yet he really didn’t get as grilled as Josh C was. So strange. 

    • Anonymous

      I think all the designers should be aufed and the art kids should replace them.

    • http://profiles.google.com/withano Loren S

      When I saw the wolf, I was hoping that Josh C would pull out some crazy, Game of Thrones-esque shit with big ol’ capes and fur everywhere.  It couldn’t have been worse than what he did put out.

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      Man, the judges have such a hard-on for illusion netting this season. I hope this doesn’t trickle down to bad ice dancing outfits for the masses in a year or two.

      Anthony’s: meh. The execution was horrible; pretend paint adhered with glue gun. It needed another layer of illusion netting under it. And, yeah, he looked at a portrait and used the brush strokes as inspiration. I would have been more intrigued if he had painted the body’s figure in brushstrokes on the dress instead of random “artfully placed” brushstokes that convey nothing.

      Josh’s: more meh. Proportions were horrible on that neck slingshot thing. It was like a head codpiece or something. Judging by this outfit, I think that his holster-dickey from last week was definitely his. His inspiration artwork was more illustration than painting, so all he had was a cool wolf to use; there was no background or anything to help him out. Best for him to be gone anyway; he didn’t deserve to be there IMO.

    • Anonymous

      I really liked the painting Anthony’s artist did, and the idea for the dress too. Maybe it had some executional issues but it was one of my two favorite designs.

      “Auf2: Electric Boogaloo for Josh C.” = brilliant.

    • Anonymous

      Can we make it illegal for them to use a glue gun except for the unconventional materials challenges? I am SO sick of seeing hot glue guns used to replace sewing. Cant get it sewn up in time? Redesign. I mean, what is the difference between Olivier’s boob glue to a designer gluing props on to his dress? 

      • Anonymous

        I know, in past seasons we might have seen them turn to the glue gun for the last couple pieces as the clock ran out but the rest of the time we would have seen them agonizing over the sewing machine and talking about what a long and tedious process it is to sew each individual piece into the proper place.

      • Anonymous

        It’s all part of the problem of not giving them enough time to work on the challenges. This last one, though, they had a decent amount of time to work with, so there should have been no excuses as for using glue. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002673395871 Roadkill Writer’s Camp

      Heidi keeps referring to Anthony’s color blindness, which probably makes it mildly anti-ADA to criticize, but, good use of colors? Really? Maybe it’s my monitor, but his combo of oily darks, artgum gray and post-it yellow is just as sad/drab and indefensible as Olivier’s. And that excuse for a deconstructed hem was bad lazy. OK concept; execution fail. 

      They brought Josh C back because he raised the level of competition, right? So another holster-thingy. Speaking of which, didn’t I see Josh M wearing a version of it at some point during this episode? Do they all have scoliosis? Should we anticipate a durable medical goods challenge?

      • Anonymous

        The difference I see between Anthony’s drab colors and Olivier’s is that the painting Anthony was working from used drab colors.  Olivier’s “inspiration” was filled with bright colors, and they were nowhere in evidence.  (Not, perhaps, surprising from a guy who listens to depressing music while he works!)

        They brought Josh C back because he raised the level of competition, right?

        No, they brought him back because Cecilia left and he’s the one the team with the vacant slot chose. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002673395871 Roadkill Writer’s Camp

          Fair enough on source of colors. I still think they were a poor choice. As for the rest, the intent was more ironic than literal. 

          • Anonymous

            Gotcha.  I have a tendency to read things literally (comes of my legal training), and so I often miss the joke/irony in postings.  I wish tone of voice were easier to discern on the Internet!

    • http://www.facebook.com/jcc0808 Joseph Collier

      TLo, I find it interesting that you mentioned that Anthony Ryan didn’t work with the same color scheme as the painting he was inspired by.  I had forgotten until it was mentioned again in the show that Anthony Ryan is colorblind.  Personally, I thought that his dress was one of the best though now I do see more of the construction issues that were mentioned in the photos you’ve presented.  I think that he had a great idea and design that could be refined into something truly spectacular.

    • Anonymous

      I was annoyed that judges kept talking about whether something was wearable during the critiques. I thought Tim pointed out that avant garde didn’t have to be wearable. The avant garde challenges always fall flat because you either got it or you don’t, when it comes to that kind of design. I understand that the contestants on this show are always forced to design clothing, use materials, or design for people they wouldn’t normally. But somehow, the avant garde thing seems much harder to pull off if your brain just doesn’t think that way.

      I liked the kids the best in this episode. It was really fun to watch them work with the designers. As for the clothes, eh, whatever. I didn’t like anything all that much. Of course Giggles was going to go home. He can’t cut it (haha). The designers who brought him back did so because they liked him but didn’t want real competition walking back into the room, which is totally understandable.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        You know, I expect any designer who makes it onto PR to know that avant garde doesn’t have to be wearable. Tim’s explanation, which he always gives for the AG challenge, should be for the benefit of the viewers, not the designers. Of course, it didn’t help matters that the judges were talking about what’s wearable and what’s not. Also, art doesn’t require an explanation.

        I agree with your comments re: the ability to pull it off. AG is, after all, supposed to be art, and not everyone’s brain is wired for art. As you said, the avant garde challenge is pretty much always a failure. So I wasn’t surprised that most, if not all, of the designs failed.

    • Anonymous

      The designers were artistically upstaged by 12 year olds.

      The construction on the winning dress was abysmal, even if the idea was decent (and decent was all it was, it was hardly brilliant). I really can’t figure out what he did with those two days.

      With the losing garment, it was only a matter of time: Joshua C just wasn’t ready for the show. It was cruel to have him on and cruel to bring him back.

      Kenneth Cole, however odd a choice given the challenge, was great. I much prefer having actual people in the industry as guest judges, rather than people whose “expertise” consists of wearing clothes – and not even professionally.

      (Okay, so only a few of them were 12. The point still holds.)

      • http://twitter.com/jessie_liz88 Jessica Rodgers

        The fact that you’re still here talking about makes me think it’s not. :) At least this season isn’t boring. Would I like  return to season 1 (where I also didn’t agree with all the judging choices)? Absolutely! Obvious producer manipulation is frustrating. But the show is still fun and entertaining to watch…. When it stops being that, then it will be the worst season ever.

        TLO has said it before, and I completely agree: This isn’t about who is the best designer ever… it’s about who is a good designer AND a good reality show contestant. And, unfortunately, the latter comes first.

    • Anonymous

      I liked Anthony’s dress and am okay with him winning, but the dress is basically the same dress that he did for the pet store challenge. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if he had painted on his design. I also agree with Kenneth Cole that the construction was sloppy in the extreme. I thought these people knew how to sew? I could have put that dress together, and I can barely thread a needle. Am I missing something here?

      I liked both Kenneth Cole and and Zanna. KC, in particular, had very constructive criticism for the designers. Still don’t know why he was chosen for avant garde, though. Would have been fun to have Lady Gaga on for that one. 

      Is there a good definition of avant garde somewhere? I’m still not sure what it is. 

      • Anonymous

        I have to say, I very much enjoyed Kenneth Cole’s tone, energy, and input and if anything really want more of that, not less.

        • Anonymous

          I agree. Interestingly, he was an outlier throughout the critiques, which only reinforces just how off they have become.

      • Anonymous

        Just Google “avant-garde fashion,” click on IMAGES, and have a look at what comes up. Then check “avant-garde” in Wikipedia.

        • Anonymous

          Oh, good idea about Google images. Thanks much.

      • Kathleen Gillies

        I think that Lady Gaga probably would have liked Mormon Josh’s dress.

      • Kathleen Gillies

        I think that Lady Gaga probably would have liked Mormon Josh’s dress.

        • Anonymous

          I like Josh C outfit, and how the open neckline and ribbing referenced the open ribcage in the painting.  As long as nobody’s was avant-garde, his was probably the best.  The skirt did bunch a little and look uneven in the back, but that was about the worst of it.  I could easily see this in a runway show from a big designer in some recent year. 

    • Anonymous

      Everyone involved with this episode, except the student-artists, should be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves. This was a heinous challenge – avant-garde except not really! – with crap designs and execution that was shocking. The judging was nuts on a stick, except for Kenneth Cole. TLo, you’re being very generous with your winner = 10, auf = 7.5; I’d put it more at win = 10, auf = 9.5. Anthony’s look, which wasn’t an awful idea, looks like it was assembled by kindergarteners. Bert’s was the only one that tried to do something different with *silhouette* – everyone else just Made A Dress. And that Clinique Bitchface! Oh my god! “I’m going to carve my own initials in this because I LOVE MY AWESOME FABULOUS SELF SO MUCH!!!” Ugh. I’m sorry about his mom, but that’s no excuse for being a raging self-obsessed bitch. 
      I realize I’m very angry after watching this episode; I feel absolutely INSULTED by the crap that was put out, and the judging done on it. Project Runway, you had better thank your stars for TLo, or else I (and, I suspect, a number of other people) would never watch the show again.

    • Amanda in Austin

      Oy. You’re right that they need to get rid of the “avant garde” label in these challenges.  Also, the hypocrisy was so ludicrous when Tim told the designers “it doesn’t have to be wearable in the same sense as regular clothes–it’s avant garde. Go big!,” and then the judges told Bert, “Nobody would wear this!”

      Aye yi yi!

    • Anonymous

      I really really wish they would have made Viktor and Olivier choose to bring back one of the four designers who got air time but didn’t make the cut. I wanted to see something from David (can’t remember his last name). Or Gunnar just for personality.

    • ALEX WILLIAMS

      I love the fact that Tim cautioned them to be avant garde!  Don’t worry about runway fashion!  Be creative, be wild!  Then the judges went for the bad pageant gown from the St. Louis prom queen and the poorly constructed piece of trash that won.  They talked and talked and talked about wearability.  Are you kidding?  It is not runway this week, remember?  Do you discuss the rules with one another at all?

    • Anonymous

      The winning dress was a good choice for the win.  The construction was bad, and at the very least we should expect the fabric pieces to be attached to the dress in a more finished way, but the way the placement of the pieces covered all lady parts and then faded to white was smart and attractive.  There were a few outfits in the “you’re safe” category that I would have liked to hear more about, especially Anya’s dramatic skirt.  That straitjacket thing was hideous, bizarre, and ill-fitting, a trifecta of design crap that should have tied for the loss with Bert’s Teletubby catastrophe.  But I’m OK with Josh being gone.  It was only a matter of time for him, and he handled it well this time.

      • Anonymous

        I actually thought the straightjacket look was fairly interesting. Not completely alluring, mind you, but the starting point for something at least, and nothing I’ve seen before.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          For once, I liked what Bryce put out.

    • Anonymous

      Repeating what I said in the TLOunge. This was the best of the judges top 3, I don’t mind the raw edges, in fact I like the raw draggy edge at the hem, I think he could have picked a more “plasticy” fabric for the paint strokes that mimics the way heavily applied acrylic paint looks on canvas. Like vinyl or something like that.
      I would have had Bryce in the top three. Bryce and Viktor.

      I liked the painting Josh was working with, but as it was figurative rather than abstract(lilke most of the others) he had a slightly more difficult row to hoe. Personally I would have gone the bloody fake fur and boning route. I don’t know where the Dracula vibe came from but it was a mistake.

    • Anonymous

      I looked Mormon Josh’s portfolio on the Lifetime website just now.   He makes Mormon Missionary Clothes for Boys.  There were a couple of very interesting dresses a la’ Leanne’s folded constructed wavy technique – but I was mostly blinded by the White Shirt and Ties throughout his portfolio.  If you lived in Utah (as I do, here in the Land of Many Mormons) that white shirt/black tie is de riguer for all church members, but especially for missionaries, who travel in pairs, by the way.  Me thinks that Josh is working out something.  Even his Avant Garde piece was a study in a white blouse with black skirt (what the girl missionaries wear).  Just saying.  

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        That is a way more interesting concept than “I Made a Wolf Lady” clothing.

    • Anonymous

      this is a serious question but could come off as ignorant: i don’t understand color-blindness. can he just not see certain colors? and if so, i thought one of those colors was orange? and if he can’t see orange, how does he know it looked like halloween next to the black and therefore choose to eliminate it from the palette? does he even know what halloween colors look like? confused. but still loving it/him. :) although… has anthony ryan yet done a dress (solo, that is) where he’s sewn something and done it well? birdseed was glued. first-challenge tank/skirt was minimally sewn and mostly glued. laura’s stilt dress doesn’t count. last week, he tried to sew and the result was tragic. this week, i couldn’t tell if the brush strokes were glued or sewn, but kenneth cole’s reaction makes me feel like they were glued. hmmm….

      • Anonymous

        I’m no expert but from what I’ve heard/read, a lot of men have some color blindness and it’s not necessarily that big a deal. 3 women will look at a color and call it purple and a man will look at it and say it’s red. That sort of thing. Also, I think sometimes it only affects how people see certain colors. Okay, I looked it up: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001997/

        • Anonymous

          Colorblindness is a dominant gene in men and recessive in women, so men who are colorblind usually have issues telling complementary colors apart—especially if they’re of the same intensity—and colorblind women actually see things in shades of grey—like looking at a black-and-white television. My dad was red/green colorblind, and I went to school with a girl who was totally colorblind. When we played board games, we had to tell her which pieces were hers.

      • Anonymous

        A green/red colorblind friend of mine once explained it as not being able to tell which is which, but still being able to tell there’s a difference.

        We were playing a game that had colored blocks for tokens, and with a red and green one in front of him, he couldn’t say which was red and which was green, but he could see they weren’t the same. I asked did they look gray or what, and he couldn’t articulate the difference. (How do you describe in terms of something you’ve never seen?)

        I can imagine color-blindness actually being an artist’s advantage in one way: it removes the distraction of “color” and allows the person to see “brightness.” Any two colors will work together if their brightness value is the same.

    • Anonymous

      The fact that those strips of fabric on AR’s dress weren’t finished made my eye twitch, but at least it was interesting and not hooker-esque (Josh C, I’m looking at you).

      And Oliviliiereie needs to get out of his head and start producing some quality stuff cause that dress he made last night was just seven shades of hiddy

    • Anonymous

      I agree overall w/ TLo’s assessment, but also think Anthony incorporated some of the emotional significance of the painting in the styling of his piece. The model’s hair, for example, references the crowns that he and the artist included in their self-portraits. He also captured the elusive quality of the figures fading into or being absorbed by the background with his fabric selection.

    • Anonymous

      Hey also, what do you think about the previews that suggested there was a Major Cheating Challenge going on and then pffft?

      • pacconci

        And you find this surprising because…?

    • Pam Winters

      I was gonna suggest that this would have been a great opportunity for cross-promotion with the new season of Work of Art…but then I remembered that we’re not in Bravo-land anymore. Darn!

      I loved the wolf painting and the one that Oliv(i)er was working with. A shame that the best art produced the worst fashion.

      • Anonymous

        Is that show really coming back? The first season gave me great entertainment value.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          rroseselavy:

          you could sit thru it? even reading about it here made me wanna go to bed for weeks     & weeks     & weeks     & weeks     &

          • Anonymous

            Oh, it was the essence of hilarity, almost as funny as America’s Next Top Model. Granted, you have to be in the right frame of mind. Drinking heavily comes to mind.

        • Anonymous

          Not to mention our wonderful precious unborn fawn reference!

          • Anonymous

            “Like!”

    • http://profiles.google.com/tarasana Tara Murray

      Did designers in the past use the glue gun all the time?  Did we just never see it because there was less “work room time” in the show?

      If you compare Laura’s garment to Anthony’s-you couldn’t tell hers was glued on (or I couldn’t) and his wasn’t even glued on well.  My 10 year old could have glued the “brush strokes” on the garment better. I liked the idea of Anthony’s garment but his execution was bad. really bad.  Becky and Kimberly don’t seem to have any problems finishing their garments with out a glue gun………

    • Anonymous

      I agreed with his elimination because he didn’t deserve to be brought back in the 1st place. But I really hated Josh M’s. It was ugly & didn’t look fashion forward, I think the judge’s were way too influenced by styling. It looked like outfits I’ve seen on the runway before. Laura is over hyped too, her outfit was reminiscent of the wave dresses of Leanne. It definitely looks like Josh M is going to provide drama next week. I don’t know if it’s editing, but I thought the ranting about his mother’s death nauseous. I lost a parent a few months ago & I can’t imagine acting like that. It seems like he’s using it for attention & to excuse bratty behaviour.

      • Anonymous

        Or to create sympathy that rubs off on his designs. I also found his design horrible and ugly, and who wants to wear noeprene?

        I find it shocking that no one seemed to know about Bert’s loss of his partner to AIDS until this episode. Shows that no one really made an effort to get to know him.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          I know, right?? It struck me that WE know about Bert’s past and were using it to understand/ judge him, but the other designers had no idea. Last week someone mentioned “walking on eggshells” wit hhim, but that’s not even really accurate. The other designers didn’t even know the history. They are clearly working under the assumption of “He’s annoying because he’s old” and not getting beyond that. Sigh. More about that in his post I guess….

    • http://twitter.com/jessie_liz88 Jessica Rodgers

      I’m honestly confused by this episode.

      Mostly, because I keep wavering on what I think. God knows the judges seemed to… I genuinely couldn’t tell during the judging what was in the top and what was in the bottom. So. Strange. And really, I hated Kenneth Cole. He seemd like a smarmy jerk, and I wanted to punch him in the face the whole nigh. yes, he had some good points, but he was way to arrogant-seeming for my taste. Michael Kors can be a jerk, but I never get “smarmy” off of him. On some level he’s likeable. KC? Not so much.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BUKL3CV3Y66UWR7BWYJMPSDRR4 Annie

      i wonder if the designers asked for josh back because he wasn’t a threat to anyone.  hated the looks.  i would have liked anthony’s better if he had used different colors and at least tacked down the pieces.  phooey on all of them.

    • Anonymous

      You know, it’s sad,but this show has almost completely lost the power to excite me.  I can’t even work up enough praise and/or vitriol to post an opinion of any real length.  Not a single avant garde look… hell, there hasn’t been a truly inspired design YET, after a half dozen episodes.  And whoever is manipulating the editing each week has left me so confused about who these people are that I find it difficult to care about the fate of any of them.

      Yawn.

    • Anonymous

      “There’s no other reference to the painting. Nothing that would tie back to the themes or feelings of the painting. He didn’t even use the same color scheme.” Isn’t he colorblind?

      • Anonymous

        Color blindness doesn’t mean you can’t see color at all, just that certain shades resemble gray or one another. Still, it’s got to be a handicap for a designer. I wonder why he doesn’t use more graphic black and white designs.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25O5S6LPM2HIDT6SORATOPHCWU Jacquie Scuitto

        There is a gadget that reads color.  I have a blind friend who uses one to choose colors for the quilts she sews.  He should look into getting one.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        colorblind doesnt mean you cant see color, it’s just different areas of color, ie: problems w/ red/green. my exhusband was colorblind, it’s been awhile so i dont remember precisely but i’m sure the particulars can be found on wikipedia.

    • Anonymous

      So John Lennon was right, for this occasion at least – avant garde is French for bullshit. And pistolet à colle is French for cop out. We’re half-way through and this is the best they can come up with? Why don’t they just eliminate the whole losing team next week and help put us all out of our misery as quickly as possible. The only thing I’d miss is TLo’s reviews. 

      I do wish Nina were there. I think she would had provided some wonderful Ninacaps. 

    • Anonymous

      When I first saw the wolf painting, I thought “Oh no.”     But, then I was drawn to the grey ribcage in the black.   I had a design in mind that was very soft.  the grey in the rib cage rushed fabric set into a black gown from below the bust down into the abdomen.   The gown would have been full with metallic in it to reflect the energy of the wolf’s fur.  Full sleeves.  Lots of drama in the dress   The neck line is harder for me to vision,  I go between high necked with a pendant of red (I actually like that square thing Josh C had) or very plunging and then just a hint of red at bottom of the V.   

      • Anonymous

        See? You came up with something pretty cool! I couldn’t think of a thing to do with that painting. I was really feeling for Josh C., because of all the lackluster designers this season, he’s the one who would REALLY have trouble with such ‘inspiration’!

        I want somebody to make your suggestion!

    • Anonymous

      I was so excited by the premise of this episode, and so underwhelmed by the results. Has there ever been such a lackluster group of designers on PR before? Other thoughts
      • So cute to see Viktor’s terror at the idea of even talking to a child, and his total transformation throughout the episode as it became clear that Skyy was going to defend his idea on the runway with her outstanding powers of speech.
      • How is Ugly Mean Josh’s color palette such a winning look this week when poor Fallene almost went home for the almost identical “sad” colors a few weeks ago?
      • The editing on this show is manipulative crap. I know, tell you something you don’t know.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        no idea how they liked man-in-makeup’s outfit. it’s f’ing dreadful. if i loved him, i would still think it was bad. i cant stand him, he’s mean & manipulative–he does the mean precisely & the manipulative poorly &, oh my heavens, i dont wanna see any of it. but i wouldnt wanna see it if his work was good–it isnt–& now i’m wandering in a circle. the only thing i do not get, i really do not get, is why the h-e-double-toothpicks the judges cant see how much his stuff all sucks.

        as an aside, i dont agree w/ the winner or the loser this time.

    • Anonymous

      Man those kids had mad art skills. I loved pretty much every piece. I agree with the dilemma for Josh C. I couldn’t come up with anything I would’ve done with that wolf as my inspiration. I do think it was time for him to go and really don’t think they should’ve brought him back at all. If you listened close, you heard him say he’d never even been to Mood before – because he was auf’d before the designers made their first trip. So, he really was behind the eight ball in terms of show experience. I don’t mind the Anthony win – meh.

      What I really wish this who would STOP doing is these dopey “avant-garde” challenges. All concerned have a seemingly subjective definition of what avant-garde means and it makes for seriously strange runway show.

      I’m sure we’ll get to Blenley – but what – exactly – was avant-garde about her garment? Someone enlighten me.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i feel somehow buddhist in nothing that i can enlighten you by using the word nothing.

    • Anonymous

      TLo said “The judges all acted like he had such a great concept to work from, but frankly, we can’t imagine any wolf-themed look that wouldn’t have been criticized.”

      Have you not seen the September’s Harper’s Bazaar or Vogue.  A leather jacket with big volumious fake fur sleeved over a red jersey dress would have been perfect.

      I agree with you on the talent this season.  IT SUCKS.  The only two designers I have any interest in is Bert and Miss Universe Contestant Person.  No doubt she can design but cannot execute.  Bert can design and execute but his ilk is moderate to high end bridge wear.  I think if Bert makes it to the final three he will produce some great clothes and great shows because he KNOWS how to do a collection.  Miss Universe Contestant Person will also produce a great collection as long as they allow her to bend the rules and have a team of seamstresses execute her ideas.

      • Anonymous

        ” A leather jacket with big volumious fake fur sleeved over a red jersey dress would have been perfect.”

        Maybe if it hadn’t been an AVANT-GARDE CHALLENGE.

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      Where are all the innovators and actual DESIGNERS? I feel like I’m being cheated. This season is nothing but a bunch of Suedes and Sweet Ps. I’m not asking for a roomful of Jays and Chloes, I’ll settle for an Eppersons & a Zulema. Just give me SOMEthing.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i really love epperson’s work. none of these people go anywhere near it.

    • http://profiles.google.com/grandiva1968 e jerry powell

      “His goodbye scene with the designers and Tim had so many high-pitched
      yelps and trills that it sounded like he had a combination of chronic
      hiccups and Tourettes.

      Florence Foster Jenkins!

      Shut up and Google it.

      • Anonymous

        and, may i add, a lyric soprano doing “la traviata”.

      • Anonymous

        Don’t need to Google. Florence Foster Jenkins was legendary.

    • Anonymous

      I liked AnthonyRyan’s overall look and do see how it connected to the painting. Even though Clinique had more polish to his look his reaction to AR’s win, definitely made me happy he didn’t win again.

    • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

      That sideways picture of Josh’s model is scary. If it appeared in print, we’d say her back had been scooped out (hello, Heidi Montag) by Photoshop.

      Bert’s outfit wasn’t Teletubby, it was Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.

      IAMSOBZ

    • Toto Maya

      Anyone else get the feeling that the reason Anthony’s color scheme was different was he couldn’t tell the difference? Like it was completely unintentional?

      Sorry, I hate how whenever Anthony busts out the glue gun he is immediately praised. Whoopee, yes, you know how to glue shit all over fabric, do you want a medal? Apparently. You could defend it once, maybe twice, but this is the third time and I’m bored as hell.

      Also, does anyone else think that Tim has been off this season? I can think of 3 or 4 times when he has told a contestant to change their design, or that their design was fabulous, and it ended up being trashed on the runway because of that. I have the feeling that if Josh had kept his original design, it might have kept him for another week, if only by being outrageous and interesting.

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

        In other seasons, Tim has often given advice in the workroom only to have the designer criticized for it during judging.

        Not a single Facebook video blog from Tim this season. He was pretty critical of the show last season. The producers must have shut him down. What a pity.
        IAMSOBZ

        • Toto Maya

          Yeah, it occasionally happened, but it is happening A LOT this season. Though I have a feeling it’s less a problem with Tim than with the judges.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        if josh c had kept his original design, i wouldve worn josh c’s original design.
        not that it was avant-garde cos, so help me, i definitely have already worn josh c’s original design. at least a decade ago. & some times in the interim. the jacket’s in the next room, actually.

        ps. i mean his red fake fur original design. the carmen miranda gone goth skirt i wouldnt wear, i dont think anyone would wear, not really, at least not offstage. but the biggest difference between his original design & the other josh’s design? josh c’s design was better.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        if josh c had kept his original design, i wouldve worn josh c’s original design.
        not that it was avant-garde cos, so help me, i definitely have already worn josh c’s original design. at least a decade ago. & some times in the interim. the jacket’s in the next room, actually.

        ps. i mean his red fake fur original design. the carmen miranda gone goth skirt i wouldnt wear, i dont think anyone would wear, not really, at least not offstage. but the biggest difference between his original design & the other josh’s design? josh c’s design was better.

        • Toto Maya

          I was looking forward to seeing the finally result on Josh C’s original design, so I was really disappointed when he got rid of the fur, and the final result was just sad.

        • Toto Maya

          I was looking forward to seeing the finally result on Josh C’s original design, so I was really disappointed when he got rid of the fur, and the final result was just sad.

    • pdobiel

      “If we heard that high-pitched nervous giggle one more time we were going to lose it. His goodbye scene with the designers and Tim had so many high-pitched yelps and trills that it sounded like he had a combination of chronic hiccups and Tourettes.”

      THANK U!!  His school girl giggle was really starting wear me down, praise Jesus he’s gone! 

      Its becoming very apparent that the only talent on that show last night were the young painters.

    • Anonymous

      I was finally able to determine the top three by concentrating on which were the bottom three. Once I got them, the other three were process of elimination.
      Since none of them were particularly inspired or avant garde I don’t really have any reaction to the win.
      Josh C. was a guaranteed auf from the outset.
      The only one that could have unseated him was Bert, but the producers need to keep him around for the Real Housewives drama.

    • http://twitter.com/RobertSanchez36 Robert Sanchez

      Anthony’s dress could have really been avant garde with more time to execute it. There was an interesting idea there, but with such limited time, it would be impossible for it to look ready for a runway show.

      On the other hand: “Dracula’s Go-Go Daughter on Carnaby Street”! LOL That sounds like it would inspire a much more interesting look than what Josh actually produced!

    • Alloy Jane

      AR, yeah.  If he had at least distressed that shitty hem in some obvious way, it wouldn’t have looked AS sloppy.  At the bottom at least.  Lord, in pictures it just looks so much worse than on the tv.  Yeeeeesh, construction issues like crazy.

      TLO said:  “The judges all acted like he had such a great concept to work from, but frankly, we can’t imagine any wolf-themed look that wouldn’t have been criticized.”

      Maybe, because those judge-bitches keep being told where to put their lips this season.  BUT, I still hold that he could have done someting strong, representative of a wolf without being literal.  I liked the brooch, btw, and agree he should have kept it but made it into a necklace.  Honestly though, we all knew he was REALLY in trouble when he didn’t use all the money.  At least pick up some alternative fabrics.  I can’t believe he only used half his funds!

      I think this wolf painting was made for Jay Sario, as evidenced by the following:

      http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2010/04/pr-ripping-the-collections-jay-part-1-2.html
      http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2010/04/pr-ripping-the-collections-jay-part-2-2.html

      He would’ve made something brutal, but beautiful.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        that outfit w/ the red jacket has always been one of my very favorite of all PR outfits.
        when you look at any of his stuff–& he’s not alone, certainly not–then look at just about everything this season, it looks like you are looking at two almost diametrically opposed productions.

    • Presumptuous Insect

      Why, why, why?  Why is everything always so damn sloppy this season?  Why?

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      the winning entry was so uninspiring i just realized i hadnt even commented on it. not even inside my own head.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7JMAFJGRETO2ZRETWOH6LGH52Y Aaron

      I did like how the other contestants were not sure who was in the top or bottom. Josh’s was the worse by far though, Bert’s was ugly but at least he tried something. Josh had an ugly design and styling, two fails in one outfit= aufx2.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Suzanne-Wood/1663511446 Karen Suzanne Wood
    • Anonymous

      The more I think of the win and auf the more angrier I get. Anthony’s was nowhere near avant garde, although it was an okay design. It seemed like a cheap ploy of introducing the painting, but it was nothing like it, and Cole was right: the execution was piss poor.

      Josh C had a hopeful beginning with the faux fur, but he kept listening to everybody except sticking to his guns and producing what he wanted. In the end, he turned out that sad sack of shit, but it wasn’t nearly as bad as Olivier or Bryce.

    • Anonymous

      Two requests make an order, right?

      First auf’d cause he failed to entice
      Then returned as a cheap twist device
      Then wolf’s howl was cast
      And took him at last
      Surely two aufs should suffice?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJ4OVNTLDQY6XNJESI2DAHIGWI Connie Nicholson

      Hmm. Next week is another team challenge. That’s how the producers manage to keep the drama high. It may not be yet another season of “design us a pretty dress,” but I don’t get the feeling that I have seen what the designers are really capable of. Or is this just a group of mostly not very talented people? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJ4OVNTLDQY6XNJESI2DAHIGWI Connie Nicholson

      Hmm. Next week is another team challenge. That’s how the producers manage to keep the drama high. It may not be yet another season of “design us a pretty dress,” but I don’t get the feeling that I have seen what the designers are really capable of. Or is this just a group of mostly not very talented people? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJ4OVNTLDQY6XNJESI2DAHIGWI Connie Nicholson

      Hmm. Next week is another team challenge. That’s how the producers manage to keep the drama high. It may not be yet another season of “design us a pretty dress,” but I don’t get the feeling that I have seen what the designers are really capable of. Or is this just a group of mostly not very talented people? 

    • Mariah J

      I agree with your critique of Josh C. He simply didn’t belong in the competition and it’s unfair to Julie that he was brought back instead of her. Oh well. I completely disagree with Anthony’s win. Its not bad it’s just not even one I would put in the top 3, mostly due to bad execution, and I think it’s pretty boring in that it only has one design element that looks crafty at best.

    • Anonymous

      I thought they were going to rake Anthony over the coals for gluing stuff onto a shift dress and doing the same neckline he did before.  Huh!

      Absolutely loved the painting though.

    • Anonymous

      Is anyone else slightly disturbed by the massive use of glue this season?!?  I don’t remember a season where we’ve seen so little sewing….

    • Anonymous

      Okay. Am I the only one who saw Anthony’s dress as a fabric version of Vincent’s recycled materials craft project from season 2?

      No? Only me, then.

      • http://naturallyeducational.com/ CandaceApril

        I looked that up and I don’t think what I found resembles it but maybe it is a different dress…but I keep thinking we’ve seen this dress before…almost exactly… on the runway or red carpet. Since no one else has said anything, maybe I’m imagining it?

        • Anonymous

          I was thinking more in terms of concept than actual appearance. A basic dress with a bunch of crap glued on it—although Vincent’s dress was stiff paper that inhibited his model’s ability to walk. Just the same, to me, craft project is craft project.

        • Anonymous

          OMG I just went over to Vincent’s website.  It’s just creepy.  There’s this part – with no explanation – about him doing “Art with Children” and a couple of pics of him with a wolfish expression.  His “fashion” stills are just the same as he always made.  Looks like high school sewing class. EEEWWW.  He’s fit in perfectly in this season.

    • Anonymous

      Watching this episode just HURT.  If the winning outfit had shown up in Season Four it would have been an easy auf just because of the crappy construction.  

      Season six has always been my bottom season–PR has never recovered from the network jumping–but, hell, there were some genuine skills among the designers.  Season Seven had several people who could design and sew and even Season eight had a couple.

      But, wow, this was AWFUL.  The fact that Anya, who admits to being a novice sewer, has done so well just says BAD things about the selection process–since we saw a couple of competent designers not make it into the final mix.

      I don’t dislike the design–but glue?  And a painted look–something that was huge about, oh, three years ago.  For an avant-garde challenge.

      Thing was, there wasn’t a single interesting or surprising piece in the mix.  

      Through all the years of weird judging and overbuilt drama, I always looked forward to what was truly interesting about Project Runway–the actual work.  But when I think of Chris/Cris, Jillian/Victorya, LeAnn’s Scorpio dress–outfits that stood out with their beauty and uniqueness–then think about what walked down the runway, hell, it just hurts.

      Hell, when Kenley ripped off McQueen and Balenciaga, at least she didn’t use a glue gun. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1277204672 Barbara Harris Morgan

        Anthony warned us, when working on the birdseed dress, that he was an expert with the glue gun. He was telling the truth.

    • Anonymous

      Watching this episode just HURT.  If the winning outfit had shown up in Season Four it would have been an easy auf just because of the crappy construction.  

      Season six has always been my bottom season–PR has never recovered from the network jumping–but, hell, there were some genuine skills among the designers.  Season Seven had several people who could design and sew and even Season eight had a couple.

      But, wow, this was AWFUL.  The fact that Anya, who admits to being a novice sewer, has done so well just says BAD things about the selection process–since we saw a couple of competent designers not make it into the final mix.

      I don’t dislike the design–but glue?  And a painted look–something that was huge about, oh, three years ago.  For an avant-garde challenge.

      Thing was, there wasn’t a single interesting or surprising piece in the mix.  

      Through all the years of weird judging and overbuilt drama, I always looked forward to what was truly interesting about Project Runway–the actual work.  But when I think of Chris/Cris, Jillian/Victorya, LeAnn’s Scorpio dress–outfits that stood out with their beauty and uniqueness–then think about what walked down the runway, hell, it just hurts.

      Hell, when Kenley ripped off McQueen and Balenciaga, at least she didn’t use a glue gun. 

    • Anonymous

      I’ve posted before and I’ll post again – this season is about who gets auf-ed next, not who wins.

    • Anonymous

      Let me start by saying that this is NOT the most talented group of designers Project Runway has ever had. There are decent designers on the show for sure, but no Christian Sirianos in this group. As for personalities, I’ve been trying so hard to find a designer to root for. Anthony Ryan and Kimberley are the closest I’ve found so far. No real attitude there and their clothes are pretty good, so I guess they’re my people for the season. As for the rest of them, you can take them all. Josh M is an ass. Anya is a phony, Bert is nasty, and the rest of them act like they’re still in high school. I am absolutely certain that Anya will be in the finals. She is a judge’s pet. I’m trying to figure out who the others are…

    • Anonymous

      How the heck Olivierierier didn’t get auf’d is beyond me. 

    • Phillip Wilde

      Gawd, Josh C’s repressed falsetto giggle-squeak was driving me crazy.  Also, did anyone else feel mucho sexual tension during that one little scene with both Joshes in the Atlas apartment?  It just seemed like the awkward conversation after having sex that you kind of regret.

    • Anonymous

      perfect post. Every word. Well said and funny TLo!

    • Anonymous

      perfect post. Every word. Well said and funny TLo!

    • Anonymous

      I think that Josh C. had a fantastic look…… for Cosplay. It looks like a Vamp Chicks dream for Comic-Con. This look never stood any more chance, then Josh C, making it another round, no matter what else was on that runway.

    • Anonymous

      As the season wears on, the lack of talent is becoming more and more obvious. The interesting aspects of PR are so few and far between, it’s not much fun to watch anymore and The Real World Parsons holds no appeal whatsoever. I was fine with the win but only because there weren’t any other contenders. A painted tree skirt that looks like it was a middle school stage backdrop is not avant garde or even fashion. 

      Nina probably sensed this disaster coming and suddenly became unavailable. Very wise to be otherwise occupied, La Chica.   

    • Anonymous

      Guido Clinique’s simply looked like a craft project. The top was stifling the poor girl to the point that she had no neck, and the overly literal tree-tree killed it for me.
      Poor Josh C. should have stuck with his heart/fur ensemble. It probably would have bought him another week at least.
      I love Olivier and hope he can stick around because I think he is usually a great designer (with an adorable accent), but I think he is now treading water and lost his point of view.
      I can’t even with Anthony’s win. How can the judges praise an unfinished hem?! An unfinished hem does not signal avant-garde to me. His dress reminded me of those Thanksgiving projects we made in elementary school where we wrote what we were thankful for on various colored feathers and then glued them haphazardly to a huge turkey.
      Bert was the only one who played with proportion and flirted with avant-garde principles, and he was shot down for it.
      The judges are completely ignoring the guidelines for these challenges. What’s the point?

    • http://twitter.com/ShelfAfterlife Shelf Afterlife

      The looks that interested me were all in the middle, so I was underwhelmed.  

    • Anonymous

      What bothered me most was that Anthony Ryan hot-glued everything on.  Forget Anya’s sewing skills…Anthony Ryan’s construction skills are totally suspect for me now.

    • Anonymous

      i have been thinking about Anthony’s dress.  He definitely had the beginnings of an idea there.  Not necessarily avant garde or even particularly original but a starting point at least.  What if, instead of just hot glueing random strips of fabric to the sheer underlay he had added a layer of illusion netting or organza over the top of the stripwork and then used a stab work and cutout technique to intergrate the strips like a funky quilted effect?  It would have given the dress more of a “finished” look without sacrificing the bold brushes over the ethereal base that his look was designed to emulate.

      Josh C. seemed to accidentally create a steampunk version of a serving wench.  Was Little Red Riding Hood without her cape the only thing that comes to mind when viewing a heraldic wolf?  He would have better off to use the painting as an inspiration for a fierce graphic print dress with crisp trailoring.  Style the model with a sleek hair style and if her wanted leather elements maybe throw on some gloves or boots.

      Very weird season.  After last season’s cracked out judging and fan outrage I would have thought the producers would have tried harder to up the level of designer talent and lowered the interpersonal drama.  I used to love that moment when the designs  hit the  runway  and I was like “Wow, how did they do that?”  This season it’s been a whole lot of “Meh” and fear that  the manufactured interpersonal drama is going to explode and take down one of my favorite shows.  I liked the snark , the joking, and the asides as much as the glimpses into the creative mind as the challenges were presented and the problems and possibilities were explored  I don’t like watching tired, stressed people be ugly to those around them.  It makes me feel like I, as the viewer, is partially responsible for the mean spirited bullying by supporting the show.  They were some truly bitchy moments in past seasons I admit, but never have I cringed quite like i have this season.

    • Anonymous

      All I could think of with Josh’s was Magenta from Rocky Horror, they should have never brought him back in the first place.I liked Anthony’s, but really think him being color blind is a major problem and that’s why there was no color that matched the art in the brushstrokes. He would have never won if Nina was there, the glue was coming off some of the brushstrokes pieces and from the back and the hem, it wasn’t finished.

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      I am still thinking about this whole episode. The designers had $300, which is a lot of money despite their kvetching esp. for a challenge like this (though no doubt Blenley did use all her yards and yards of georgette). They had two days (with apparently 8 hours at night to sleep or whatever)  and Tim did NOT walk in on the second morning and announce that they had to make a second, ready-to-wear version of the look for an additional $50 worth of materials.  I don’t recall such a deluxe challenge from the designers’ point of view. And all many of them did with the time was either keep sticking more stuff onto the original idea (Blenley, Bert) or else take stuff off the original idea (Josh C., Anthony who decided to remove the orange bits). There was such a failure of imagination, or perhaps a revelation of poverty of imagination.

    • Lies L.

      I was okay with AR’s win, really – it was at least AMONG the best efforts this week, and he seems like a nice guy. Josh C’s thing was pretty dreadful, but I felt like Oliver should’ve gone. That thing was so sad and didn’t reference the painting in any way.

      My main question is: how did Josh C suddenly get Danielle’s model? Was that ever explained? Am I missing something?

      • Anonymous

        In the BPR podcast, Josh C. explains that Laura kept complaining that her model was too big, so Heidi pulled out the button bag and had the designers reselect models. Josh’s name was last, so he was faced with the unpleasant task of picking one and sending one home. He took the redhead, and the otherLaura’s former model—was sent packing.

        Of course, none of this aired.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=720086455 Sue Shea

          thanks!

        • Lies L.

          That’s really interesting! Thanks!

    • http://twitter.com/CestmoiLola CestmoiLola

      “This looks like something from the costume closet of an old ’60s Hammer Horror film. Dracula’s Go-Go Daughter on Carnaby Street!”
       
      I don’t know if anyone else sees this, and I’m not scrolling through 266 omments to check, but I picked another mainstay of the British ’60’s in MY reaction: “Emma Peel’s younger, sluttier sister.” Just thought I’d share!

    • Anonymous

      LOL.  You guys are too funny.  I thought I liked Anthony’s look until now.  The pictures really highlight the poor execution.  I thought it deserved top 3 but it was not my favorite.  That said, this was the weakest showing in PR history.  A chance to go wild and we got a parade of boring, ugly student projects. Poor John C.  At least he found his rainbow.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/ehormell Eric Hormell

      “Interesting to note that once the phone call home became a product placement moment, they stopped being harbingers of doom.”
      Ah, yes. I did notice a few seasons back that the call home stopped meaning anything, but I missed the connection to the product placement.

    • Anonymous

      I actually loved anthony’s dress (though id never wear it). i think he explained everything really well, since he was dwelling more on the naked concepts the painting brought rather than what it was actually of… i think he really represented it well in the dress. but i think youre right about everthing you said about Josh C…. poor guy, just couldnt cut it! 

    • Anonymous

      I guess you forgot that Anthony Ryan is working under the disabilty of colorblindness.  I know he can ask other contestants, but given this group there’s no guarantee he’d get a decent answer.

    • http://www.facebook.com/raweiser Rachel Weiser

      Those kids were awesome. Given how young some of them were, I was quite impressed by the technical level of their art.

      Did anybody get the tear count from Josh C. this episode? I swear at least 70% of his airtime involves some sort of cracking voice and/or eyes brimming with tears.

    • vmcdanie

      Typical middling episode (or, almost as good as it gets in the Lifetime era.) But weren’t Kenneth Cole and Zanna a great pair of judges that seemed to be honestly judging and not serving as cracked-out marionettes for the producers’ story arc? I wouldn’t mind seeing some fresh faces on that judging panel. Not only might the show have a chance of improving but I’d be able to remember better days.

      I was growing tired of Bert but he was, for me, still nowhere near the Gretchen red zone.

      I didn’t mind Anthony Ryan’s idea. I just thought on close-up the strips looked a little sloppy and crafty. Poor Josh was sweet and a memorably gracious contestant but it was so obvious that his return would be short-lived and emotionally trying for him that really, what was the point? I think Dog Blankets might have had a better shot.

      • Anonymous

        I’m with you.  I wish someone else (CLINIQUE!) would quit just so I can see what Dog Blankets would have done.

    • Anonymous

      Anthony’s was very interesting, and beautiful, love the “brushstroke” effect on the dress. Josh’s was a hot mess, it looked like a rejected costume from The Wolfman, awful, glad to see him gone again. I think the designers just wanted him back because it would be a free pass for them, knowing he’d be likely to go immediately yet again, if the case, mission accomplished.