PR: Stylish and Style-less

Posted on September 17, 2011

Y’know, upon reflection – because that’s what we do here at the T Lo Institute for Reality Television Studies; we reflect – except for one or two notable exceptions, pretty much everyone this week made a dress that you could find in a department store. That’s not surprising, considering they were dealing with clients, none of whom struck us as the type who would say “Make me something really cutting edge.” No, the directives were more prosaic: “Make me look pretty and disguise my imaginary body flaws for me.” So the win went to a pretty department store dress and the bottom 3 were mostly criticized for looking like standard department store dresses. Consistency!

Anyway, our point here is that, yes, Bert made a fairly standard department store dress. What distinguishes this department store dress from the department store dresses that landed in the top 3 is that it’s pretty generic.

In fact, we wish the judges had ditched the “I could buy this dress anywhere” critique and focused more on what makes one standard dress better or worse than another.

Because we did agree with the judges that this dress was not really praise-worthy except on the issues of fit and construction, where Bert always excels.

Although we do think the fit on that skirt could have been a bit more flattering than it was.

No, the issue here isn’t that you could buy this dress in a department store. It’s that the dress has very little style to it. It’s a standard low-cut mini-dress without any sort of interesting design elements to it.

And this is the problem we have with Bert’s work generally. It’s well made and tasteful, but he rarely ever produces anything that looks particularly modern or interesting. You wouldn’t just find this dress in a department story today; you’d find the same dress in a department store 5 years ago, 10 years ago, even 20 years ago.

In addition, we think there was a bit of a taste issue here. Not with Bert, who seems to have pretty good taste, but with the clients, who pushed him into making a dress that looks a little hoochy, which is totally not Bert’s style. The general rule is show off the tits or show off the legs, but showing off both at the same time takes you into tacky territory. Nina was exactly right that the skirt needed at least a couple more inches on it to look chic or tasteful.

Because who can deny that she has a SPECTACULAR rack on her? Even Heidi complimented it and you’ve gotta figure when a Victoria’s Secret model compliments you on your boobs, you’re floating on Cloud 9 for the rest of the day. We can understand why hubby wouldn’t shut up about them and we can understand why Bert agreed to showcase them, but when you’re going that low on such an attention-getting chest, a more demure skirt would have been a good idea.

We don’t think we’re saying anything shocking when we say that Viktor was the clear winner this week. Yes, you could argue that this looks like something you could pick up at Anthropologie, but that automatically puts it ahead of Josh’s entry.

Because you could pick up Josh’s dress pretty much anywhere. It had cute detailing, but not much personality. The fact that so many people looked at this dress and didn’t think “department store,” but a specific store, says to us that this look had more of a specific style and personality to it.

We should note, however, that this wasn’t as impeccably finished as it could have been.

The collar looks a little limp and uneven, as do the sleeves.

And the skirt looks a little sloppy up around the waist.

But it was a colorful, stylish, of-the-moment look with some great design elements and a lot of personality to it. It suited her to a T. In fact, we think Viktor did the best job of figuring out his client’s style and making something that reflected it perfectly. A lot of the ladies said they liked their dresses, but to be honest, we didn’t believe some of them. Maybe they were being polite or maybe they were just responding to the thrill of having an outfit custom-made for them, but we doubted very much that they all would have chosen or bought for themselves the outfits made for them. You can see at a glance that this gal would definitely have bought this outfit if she’d seen it hanging on a rack. The fact that the judges actually seemed to be taking points off Viktor’s score simply because his couple was stylish was so ridiculous that we laughed out loud at the absurdity of it.

That was the first example of the judges lamely trying to justify their decisions, but the second example was the one that made us a little angry. “He over-accessorized.” Oh, please. A clutch, sunglasses and a necklace is over accessorizing? And how telling that the pieces they felt should have been removed were either made by him (that clutch is adorable) or so generic as to be unnoticeable, but the giant incongruous necklace (which we agreed was perhaps a bit much) was just fine with the judges because they’d never criticize something that came from one of their sponsors. Can’t diss the Piperlime on camera, after all.

She was – bar none – the most put-together and stylish woman on the runway and for some completely nonsensical reason, they held that against him. You wanna keep giving the Drama Vortex wins, you’re going to have to do better than that, judges.

 

[Photo Credit: Barbara Nitke/MyLifetime.com - Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

    • Anonymous

      Drama Vortex would be a great name for a Logo reality show.

      I *loved* the clutch. I thought it looked so elegant with the outfit!

    • Helen C

      VIKTOR KEEPS ON BEING ROBBED!! I think he should have won at least 3 challenges already!  Instead he won only one, and had to share it with Josh M!  
      He’s very derivative, but he’s got a great sense of style and he can sew pretty well, and these factors put him above most of the contestant here.  In fact, I think Viktor is pretty much the clear winner here out of this group. 

      • Anonymous

        So totally agree with you Helen C. And even PPS had a derivative quality to him on PR, and it took him a few years to find his way. I think if Viktor had the opportunity a PR win would give him, he could go very far. And I like his quirky bitchiness.

      • Anonymous

        That Rorschach dress was one of the most beautiful and original things I’ve seen on PR, definitely the best dress so far this season. Viktor is kind of obnoxious in his own way (nowhere near Eyebrow Waxing, but still), so it’s hard to root for him with complete fervor, but he’s been very, very impressive the past few weeks. Unfortunately, he is clearly not a judge’s pet, so he has to go a mile every time Anya or Eyebrow Waxing go an inch. I think he deserves at least the top three, if not the win–but I wouldn’t bet on it.

      • http://twitter.com/TMamBo Therese Bohn

         I concur! I loved Victor’s Dress and Bag, and the lady looked really happy with it. I agree about the necklace, but otherwise, it should have won.  Josh’s black cocktail dress was pretty and pretty standard. Bert’s dress was vulgar.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I don’t like the necklace, but it does need something like that — around the face or neck.  Just not something quite so obnoxiously large and unattractive.

          • Anonymous

            The necklace did remind me of the scene in Total Recall, where Ahnies character was asked how he liked his holographic women – and the computer showed one with three breasts.  OH! The dangling chesticles!!!

      • Anonymous

        I still think they HAVE to spread out the wins – or risk the ending being very predictable.

      • http://inkblotphotography.blogspot.com/ Cate

        I kind of agree. I think at the very least in the last 2 challenges, he deserved the win. But honestly, Viktor to me is like a Mondo. regardless of what happens on the show, he’ll be successful because he has talent plain and simple, and the skills to support that talent.

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: In addition, we think there was a bit of a taste issue here. Not with Bert, who seems to have pretty good taste, but with the clients, who pushed him into making a dress that looks a little hoochy, which is totally not Bert’s style.”

      That hubby spent so much time talking about her boobs, that I got the funny feeling that maybe he wanted this room full of gay men to know he is straight. Super straight. So straight he can’t talk about anything but boobs.

      And btw, I think that mannequin, who was motor-boated against her will, might have a harassment case. I expect Gloria Allred to be a guest judge next week

      –GothamTomato

      • Anonymous

        Eh, I think he just really, really liked his wife’s boobs.

      • Anonymous

        Gay men love to talk about boobs, too!

        • Anonymous

          I was once in a show where 6 guys had to do a drag number at the top. A couple were gay but the rest were straight. And of course, as part of their costume they had to wear fake boobs.  Every night it used to crack me up how, as they were standing there behind the curtain waiting to go on, they would continually touch and adjust with their boobs. It didn’t matter that they were foam rubber, and it didn’t matter that they weren’t even attached to an actual woman. They still couldn’t stop playing them.

          –GothamTomato

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, straight men and boobs, don’t get it, but man . . . all I can think is that it’s some leftover from infancy.  

            Bert just sort of took motorboat man in stride–too bad he wasn’t paired up with no-boobs Olivier.  

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        My guess is that he probably only notices her clothes in relation to her boobs, much like a lot of men.  I know if you asked my husband about his favorites of my clothes, they would all be things that really showcase my chest, though I hope he could describe them better than that:)

        My eye went to the band and clutch first, not the necklace.  In fact, I didn’t realize how much I disliked the necklace until the 3rd time I saw the look. 

    • Anonymous

      Seriously. That over-accesorizing spiel was a load of crap. I didn’t even realize he’d made it until they off-handedly mentioned it when they were going over who to keep and kick off. The fact that he made it (and that it’s pretty amazing) sold the whole thing even more for me. I think we’re all pretty disappointed with this episode (not that we haven’t already been disappointed with basically every episode so far).

    • http://twitter.com/LaurenJeanSTM Lauren St. Martin

      Agree, 100%

    • http://twitter.com/democracydiva Democracy Diva

      Preach it, TLO! The clutch was fabulous and you’re SO right about the necklace. I can handle product-shilling, but when their devotion to Piperlime affects the judging, I get frustrated.

      • Anonymous

        Every time they praise the PiperLime accessory wall another soul enters fashion purgatory…..

        • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

          And an angel loses its wings.

          • Anonymous

            I thought it was a kitten dies?

            • http://twitter.com/suryasnair suryasnair

              Nope, a Chanel dress gets burned.

    • Anonymous

      Amen, brothers! I agree with your entire assessment here, especially about the points off for a stylish couple (what about the “gallerina”?) and the over-accessorizing. I was so angry when they announced Josh’s name. He’s made that same circle skirt how many episodes now? Where’s Nina calling him a one-note? Viktor has shown range and thoughtfulness, and he worked very well with his clients.  This Viktor fan is hoping the end pans out the right way.

      • Anonymous

        Seconded on all counts! Why has no one called Josh on the circle skirts? I don’t believe he can make any other kind of skirt.

      • Anonymous

        I love the “gallerina” reference, but they were talking about Anya’s client there, I think.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, I know they were. My point was that if Anya’s client was a galleria, then she was probably known for being fashionable since she had to go to so many openings.

      • Anonymous

        This Viktor fan is hoping the end pans out the right way.
        I wouldn’t count on it. The judges don’t like him at all. The fact that Anya’s fairly standard dress won over that gown he made last week proves that.
        I suspect The Drama Vortex success is more the producer’s doing than the judges. All the judge love seems to be going to Anya, so that would be my pick for the win.

    • Anonymous

      This was one of the only entries that looked like fashion. I couldn’t believe they gave Josh the…wait, yes I can. Gretchen won last year.

    • http://twitter.com/ShelfAfterlife Shelf Afterlife

      Wow, I thought the judges were on crack last season.  It appears they never put the pipe down at all this summer!  Thank you, TLo for pointing out things I don’t even think of when I watch.  I was pissed that Josh beat Viktor and it seems I have more reason than I even realized.

    • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

      Oh T-Lo, I’m so glad you mentioned the over accessorizing criticism. I couldn’t believe that one either. The clutch was perfectly adorable, the sunglasses are so insignificant that I can’t believe one of them said they should have left them out, though I actually disliked the necklace because I thought while it added some cool color it was a bit too distracting. Sadly I think you’re spot on about the Piperlime thing. Sigh. Why PR? Why has Lifetime sucked the creativity and joy out of you? 

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

        I couldn’t believe that they kept praising the necklace. While it brought the outfit’s colors together, it overpowered the blouse and was very distracting. The purse was really cute. 

    • Anonymous

      I wasn’t super-keen on Viktor’s color scheme, but I totally agree: his outfit had class and fit his client’s personality PERFECTLY!

    • jeneria

      Two weeks in a row Victor’s been screwed.  He’s the obvious front runner at this point, which is why they’ll give the win to anyone else.  I want to see what Victor, Anthony, and Kimberley can do with a normal challenge (something like using nature as an inspiration) where they’re not hamstrung by designing for a specific person. 

      I am so sick of Olivier.  Seriously, he’s not even good tv, he’s just a child with poor time management skills.  Laura’s a bitch, every bit as bitchy as Joshua.  And I’m tired of Anya.  Her stuff is starting to look all the same.  As for Bert. . .I forget he’s even still around.

      • Anonymous

        Anya’s stuff has looked all the same to me all along. And in my mind, Victor’s been the front runner for weeks now.

        • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

          Anya keeps making the same damn dress, in the same family of prints.

      • Anonymous

        No, no one’s as bitchy as Joshua.  I think Laura’s a snob, but I’ve never seen go after another designer the way Josh went after Becky and Bert.  

        For some reason, the judge’s don’t like Viktor.  His was the obvious win this week.  Last week, his was the best outfit, but, unlike Anya’s, it didn’t use the prints at all and Anya, not Viktor, got the one fellow designer vote.

        This week, though, was all about keeping alive the drama.

        • Anonymous

          Laura went after Becky, but her methods differ from Josh’s. Instead of calling her dowdy to her face, she criticized her work behind her back, to a member of another team. Then, when she was sure that Anya shared her opinion of Becky’s skirt, she directly leveled the cryptic “it reads math teacher” critique, opening the door for Anya to provide more “advice.” While Becky did a poor job of interpreting the comment, altering the fabric rather than the design, Laura provided a textbook example of how to diminish a peer’s self-confidence. Note also her sarcastic remark, “because we’re all mourning,” given in response to Kimberly’s “pouring out a little” in remembrance of Becky.

          I’m not arguing that she’s “as bitchy” as Josh (whatever that might mean), just that she indeed does go after other designers. I suspect she may try to start in on Kimberly next.

          • Anonymous

            I think any designer who talks in a confessional like she’s on that asinine speed-dating MTV show is worse than Joshua, who throws tantrums and is ridiculous but at least he’s up front. 

          • Anonymous

            I think there’s a big difference between some low-comment snipes in the break room and haranguing a fellow contestant to the point of tears while she’s working and, in the case of Bert, making your team grind to a complete halt while you yell at him.  

            There’s also a difference between critiquing a piece–“It reads math teacher”, which it did–and slamming a designer’s entire aesthetic as “dowdy.”  Indeed, to equate the two is to diminish just how destructive Josh has been to teams.

            • Anonymous

              Have you had to deal with Mean Girls?

              “We just tease someone until she develops an eating disorder.” (Elaine Benes, on Seinfeld)

              Clinique may be the most stereotyped queen on earth, but he still has a penis. Socialization taught him to be direct and confrontational, and Blenley to be backstabby and subtle.

              I would rather deal with Josh’s approach any day of the week.

            • Anonymous

              I’ve dealt with all sorts of people–mean boys and mean girls.  Fact remains Laura didn’t scream at Becky and undermine her self-worth by telling her that all her designs were dowdy.  We saw her talk to Anya in the break room and criticize one skirt.

              Laura may bitch, but she doesn’t throw a tantrum and threaten to forfeit challenges to get her way, which eats up time and energy.  Indeed, it was Laura who took time from her work to calm down that idiot Josh.

              If anything, what I’m seeing here is the tendency to deem a smaller range of behavior acceptable in women than it is in men.  If Viktor had called Becky’s skirt too math teacher, you probably wouldn’t have blinked twice.  

              I mean, multiple stop-work shriekfests in the work room is better and less disruptive than a comment made about a skirt in the breakroom?  

              C’mon.

            • Anonymous

              Barbarienne, you express my sentiments EXACTLY.   I’m not sure you’re wrong, Glammie, but my buttons get pushed by subtle backstabbing way more than by direct confrontation.

      • Anonymous

        I agree. I want them to do the Met-inspired challenge from PPF’s season, or something normal where they just have to draw from some kind of semi-organic inspiration, get a good budget, have 2 days to do it and none of these ridiculous drama-inducing twists. I still feel like none of them have reached their potential this season because the challenges have been so bad. Even the avant garde challenge was dumbed down a little by the fact that they had kids running around the workroom and kind of running the show.

    • MilaXX

      I liked this and I still would have given Anya the win. However I agree both Vitktor and Anya should have been top 2. A win for either of them would have made more sense to me than Josh’s win for showing restraint for the the first time.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, I thought Viktor was the clear winner here too. The judging was REDONKULOUS this week. I couldn’t believe they actually held it against Viktor that he had a stylish couple…..WHAT?!I I thought the bag was adorable and the colors were wonderful. I would buy this in a heartbeat. 

    • Anonymous

      TLo said: “but the giant incongruous necklace (which we agreed was perhaps a bit much) was just fine with the judges because they’d never criticize something that came from one of their sponsors. Can’t diss the Piperlime on camera, after all.”

      Boy if that’s not the truth! I thought the clutch was adorable and completely in sync with the outfit but that necklace??? please. It looked like [channeling the duchess here] something a five year old would find as cutting edge. Ugh.

      Here’s hoping Victor makes it to the finals – and I’d actully be ok with him for the win. I’m so over the drama vortex it isn’t funny.

      srq

      • Anonymous

        something a five year old would find as cutting edge.
        Or, judging by Anthro’s and Urban Outfitter’s jewelry section, 20-something hipsters.

        Sad to admit this, but I’m actually a 20-something with hipster tendencies (I reject their attitude, but adore the fashion and music) and I love this necklace. I love that they’re big giant drops of color against a more demure and subtly dotted blouse, and I love the combo of colors against that blue. Maybe it’s too much, but I’m like Malin: I like bold.

        Sadder to admit this, but I went to Piperlime to see if it was cheaper than the ones at Anthro and Urban, and it was!…but it was also sold out. Oh, the power of PR.

        Otherwise, I agree with that the clutch and sunglasses were cute, and that the judges were on crack as usual. Since they rewarded Clinique’s doucheness a few episodes ago, I don’t really care who wins or loses; it just doesn’t mean anything anymore (saddest to admit). As long as one of the designers keeps making pretty things, I’m happy to watch. So thankful for Viktor’s (and sometimes Anya’s and Anthony Ryan’s) presence this season!

        • Anonymous

          I loved the necklace too!  It’s totally my style, and I thought it worked with the outfit.  I couldn’t find it at all on Piperlime, though, so I didn’t see that it was sold out.  Boo!

          • Anonymous

            http://piperlime.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=66992&vid=1&pid=875670&scid=875670002

            They still have this one! But it’s pink. I draw the line at pink.

            • Anonymous

              Thanks for the link!  I hear you about drawing the line, though – this color scheme is not doing it for me.  I’ll keep checking back, though!

            • Anonymous

              Thanks for the link!  I hear you about drawing the line, though – this color scheme is not doing it for me.  I’ll keep checking back, though!

            • Anonymous

              After looking at this, I’m wondering how much neck strain you’d be in from wearing this to work for 8 hours, not to mention how many desk and file drawers it would get caught in.

              Unless you wore it to dinner, but even one hour in it I would think it would be quite enough. Not to mention get in your soup.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I don’t hate the necklace.  I just hate it with that outfit.  I feel like it’s a bit too much for the outfit — if the beads were smaller or there were less of them, I’d be happy.

    • Anonymous

      The fit on Bert’s dress was NOT flattering. If the whole point of the episode was to customize a dress to suit the client’s body perfectly, that skirt needed more wiggle room. It pulled really badly around the hip area — unforgivable in a tailor-made dress!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BY3KYG6VBWOARL52M5HASFM5AY inked613r

        i completely agree…when she walked down the runway i kind of thought she was pregnant..and the rear view was lumpy. 

      • http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

        I felt sorry for his client during the judging. They were basically tearing her apart for requesting the dress he designed. As you scroll down, her mouth goes from a big, proud smile to hurt, down turned corners. I hope her husband’s behavior was a desire to establish his straightness. Otherwise, he’s just a big jerk.

    • Anonymous

      BOW TIES ARE COOL!

      I think Viktor might win this season.

      • Anonymous

        oh, don’t jinx it! fingers crossed, though.

      • Anonymous

        I hope so. His final collection was really good. I didn’t see any clear frontrunners until a couple of weeks ago, but Viktor has really been on a roll (and been completely overlooked by the judges).

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        I said while watching, “If Viktor doesn’t win this episode, there is no God!”

        Which is problematic, because I am Episcopalian.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        He looks so damn adorable in that tie. 

    • Anonymous

      as usual, i totally agree with you. i loved this girl’s look, and it IS completely ridiculous that they seemed to detract points because the couple was “obsessed with fashion.” how the eff did they know? and we were shown that viktor happened to make a skirt that was very similar to a skirt she was already wearing when she arrived at the fitting. i think that viktor simply read the client PERFECTLY, through her boyfriend, and made a perfect look for her – which is what this effing challenge was SUPPOSED to be about!
      also, i disagree with all the praise the judges gave anya’s look. the material looked shiny and cheap, and honestly, it looked like a slightly bumped-up version of one of those dresses you see at a store that sells clothing for club-hoppers or hostesses at a gentleman’s club.

      • Anonymous

        and it perfectly answers MK’s perennial question: “Who is this girl? Where is she going?” Seriously, where was Josh’s girl going? And, as LBD’s go, I didn’t find it the most glamourous. This, however, clearly had direction.

      • Anonymous

        one of the judges made a comment about never seeing Anya’s look before. Say what?! how many club outfits are there with one arm bare, one arm covered?

        • http://twitter.com/Alloyjane Alloy Jane

          I guess the judges are too busy mixing crack and PCP at home to do X at a club.

          This week’s episode was…  full of ridiculous sound bites.  That’s the best that can be said.

    • Anonymous

      As usual spot on.  The pretext that this is a design competition is really wearing.  Just ordered first four seasons of PR on DVD so I have something to satisfy my fashion fix which TLo hooked me on–but a healthy obsession as long as I stay away from high prized stores!

    • Anonymous

      I looooved Viktor’s look and would buy the whole thing (alright, maybe not the sunglasses). It’s stylish, sophisticated, whimsical and very modern. The boy was robbed!

    • Anonymous

      I loved the color combination that Viktor used…that was what brought that outfit out of the department store ethos.  The collar could have used some interfacing, and the waistband on the skirt was begging for a better closing, but if this is a design show, then even with the flaws it beats Josh’s well-made but directionless dress hands down.  Bert can get a nice job designing for INC once he’s done with PR.

    • Anonymous

      In Bert’s case it’s obvious that the producers were pushing that guy to make a big deal and do the whole “OMGILUVTHETITTIES” comments. It was over the top. I didn’t like Bert’s dress at all, but it didn’t help to have clients like he had. Still he could have come up with something more stylish and I agree, he has done nothing that looks stylish so far.

      I did like Victors, although I felt some of the construction was a bit off, especially around the waist from the back. Still it was a good piece and his and Anya’s were my favorite of the bunch. Josh’s..no way. Not even close. And I agree about the Department Store comments. Any of those dresses could be found in a department store. So what? I mean you were asking to design for people that are not even in the fashion industry what did you think you would get? The average person is not going to wear high fashion..but they will wear fashionable ready to wear.

      Whatever.

      • Anonymous

        That’s why if you’re going to design for average people, make it for an unaverage event.  I liked the concept and story behind the red dress challenge two seasons ago with the goal to make a runway dress for the “Go Red for Women” show. Average women, runway show. No stilts, no stupidity, just a heartwarming moment and a chance to make these survivors feel as beautiful as the are.

        • Anonymous

          Know what I really want to see? A mother of the bride and/or groom challenge. Possibly because Mother of the Bride has been used as an insult soooo often, partially because it’s one of those exceptional events, something quite special for the woman in question.

          • Anonymous

            Wouldn’t it be cool to force Kors to use MOB as a compliment?

            • Anonymous

              What did he do at his recent wedding? 

            • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

              She probably dressed just like him. Have you ever seen them together? It’s kind of freaky, they are one & the same.

    • http://www.joannao.blogspot.com JoannaOC

      Our family agreed that this was our favorite ensemble by a mile. We don’t really care much what the judges say most of the time, but this should have won.

    • Anonymous

      TLo said something about Bert’s dress being something you could find in the department store 5, 10, 15 or 20 years ago– isn’t that, um, “classic”?  Not that I particularly care for it, or Bert.  I do like that he took some a more sophisticated print and something that (given the parameters of his clients) toned things down a bit.  But it is a classic look to me, and I think if Bert could find a way to put a “twist” on it, he would be a competitor.   I agree that given the couple’s pride in her boobs, a little less leg would have been in order.  i think maybe Bert was back-pedaling (too far) on the too-long dress of last week.    

      Viktor’s was my favorite of the night– the only one I would have looked twice at in a store– when you said Anthropologie, I said “yes, of course” (sitting here in my 5-year-old Anthropologie skirt now relegated to Saturdays at the local hippie music festival).   When I saw it, I thought “Carey Mulligan,” in the most positive way possible.  I would have lost the necklace, though.  I LOVE big gaudy necklaces, so it’s not that– I just don’t love them worn awkwardly over sheer buttoned-up blouses.  They had it picked out early, though, so I’m thinking the wife took it off the wall as “inspiration.”     

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        Classic:  *this*.   Frankly, the ’70s revival is very much on trend; Bert may be making what he made 35 years ago, but it’s all over the fashion spreads.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=513945580 Megan Patterson

      Viktor’s is GREAT. It suits his client to a T, and is the most fashion forward of all the ones I’ve seen from this episode so far. And yeah, one necklace and sunglasses does not count as overaccessorizing. That would mean like, if you wore more than one piece of jewellery it’s “too much” and I’m pretty sure half the judges were wearing some.

    • Anonymous

      I am still in shock that they gave the win to Josh.  I make no attempts to hide how irritating I find that man.  I give him that he is a good designer, and it was a good dress. It was fine.  There was nothing wrong but nor was there anything for him to win over. It was generic.  Pretty, but generic.  I feel they gave him the win because he learned to edit himself.  Bleah.  Yeah, you finally did what the judges told you to do and we will reward you for it.  Poor Viktor is being ignored for being simply good on his own merits and not needing as much direction from the judges as Josh does.  How frakking sad. 

      • Anonymous

        Remember how much weight listening to the judges carries.  That’s how Gretchen won over Mondo last year.  She listened to Nina and Michael, he didn’t, she won.  The judges have a big ego when it comes to their sage advice.

        • Anonymous

          That is a really, really good point, Carol. I didn’t think of it that way at all, but it makes a lot of sense.

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: “He over-accessorized.” Oh, please.”

      This criticism, like a couple of others that have become standbys on this show, remind me of a criticism used in the art world (by curators, critics, gallery owners and other assorted pompous up-their-ass types): It lacks artistic merit. That’s a bullshitty way of saying ‘I don’t like it, but I want to sound like I know something that you don’t, and my opinion is more important than yours, so I don’t say ‘I don’t like it’, I say ‘it lacks artistic merit’.

      –GothamTomato

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        Double like.

      • Anonymous

        Thanks for making me think about “artistic merit” a term that seems to be thrown around with abandon in the art world.  Just looked it up and was surprised by the original meaning, “…related to faithfulness to nature” though not necessarily a literal interpretation.  The definition goes on to say that  “…In general, rigid criteria for artistic merit tend to fall apart fairly rapidly and the preferred standards for artistic merit vary across time and place.”  (Source:  Wikipedia, but who had time for more research?)

        Your analysis is right on – it means, “I think I am an expert, and I don’t like it.”

        So let me just say that the random and inconsistent judging criteria currently practiced on PR lacks artistic merit.

      • Anonymous

        Speaking of “artistic merit”, I saw a promo on Bravo last night for a second season of Work of Art, premiering in early October. Can pretentious posturing be far behind?
        Certainly hope TLo will be blogging it again for their unborn fawns.

    • Susan Crawford

      I LOVED Viktor’s design, and was completely stunned that he didn’t win. Yes, there were a couple of fit issues: the sleeves looked a little sad and droopy, and the collar probably needed something like a lining or extra sizing to crisp it up; and when you do a hip-pleated skirt, you really have to nail the fit at the waist and hips so it is flawlessly smooth. But that being said, this design absolutely looked RIGHT on his client. I loved the colors, I loved the versatility, and I WANT THAT CLUTCH! When the client and her hubby stood together, they looked great: urban, a bit downtown yet professional.

      The length is what killed Bert’s otherwise good effort. Two inches additional length would have elevated this and given it more class and pizzazz. And I think the skirt fit needed a bit more room to fall more gracefully. Not a FULL or A-line, just a little less tightness.

      I know there’s a Project Accessorize (or whatever it will be called) coming up, but this week, it seemed that the judges were all over the accessories – a little marketing going on, kids? Sure seemed that way to me.

      Anya made it to the top three? With that hot mess? Incomprehensible. Can’t wait for T Lo’s post on her design.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Ugh – Anya’s dress. Great fabric turned into a mishmash on the runway. (That’s a good title for a movie about fashion crimes.)

        “I know there’s a Project Accessorize (or whatever it will be called)
        coming up, but this week, it seemed that the judges were all over the
        accessories – a little marketing going on, kids? Sure seemed that way to
        me”

        Oh, no. That’s not marketing. That’s synergy! ;-)

    • Lynn Landry

      Ay-friggin-MEN

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      I think Viktor is the best designer and should win. It makes me sick that the only win he has is shared with that dumb ass Josh. I loved Viktor’s look, and I liked all the accessories. Anya’s dress was hiddy. It looked like a craft project. This season is a beating. 

    • Anonymous

      Show me one woman who would wear this outfit and NOT go out without a purse of some kind.  How is a clutch over-accessorizing?  As for the glasses, this is clearly a warm weather look, so it follows that the lady might need some shades.  This was cute and stylish and, much as I did love Josh’s dress, the clear winner.

    • Stephen Trask

      You guys have made such an important distinction here that seems so simple and yet is never really said.  There are dresses you could buy at a department store and dresses you would buy at a department store.  

    • Anonymous

      Call me insane, but I don’t see how it’s even remotely possible for the judges to praise the fit on Bert’s dress. Up top, maybe, but the skirt pooches around the client’s belly and hikes up in such a way that there are little fabric folds pointing directly at her middle. It makes her look like she has a much bigger tummy than she probably does. If I tried on a dress that fit like that there is no way I would leave the dressing room in it.

      • Anonymous

        That’s true, and it’s probably a function of the shiny fabric. With a more matte fabric, I’m sure it would have looked better. All Bert needed was a few more inches (I loved the look on Nina’s face when she said this, so plaintive) and a less shiny fabric, which also made it look a little cheap.*

      • Anonymous

        That’s true, and it’s probably a function of the shiny fabric. With a more matte fabric, I’m sure it would have looked better. All Bert needed was a few more inches (I loved the look on Nina’s face when she said this, so plaintive) and a less shiny fabric, which also made it look a little cheap.*

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_66KPZ36LMHMRQOX3HIJGHRNNUA MandyM

      I swear if the DV wins this season, I am finding a new favorite show. Viktor should have won this challenge and the last one and one with the track shoes AND the Nina challenge and honestly his little dress was as good as Bert’s in the first challenge too. I am annoyed by how much they’ve overlooked him and chosen Anya and Josh over him.

      • Anonymous

        There is absolutely no way in hell he will win. No. Way. Not after Gretchen. Even if Josh was far and away the best designer, I STILL don’t think there’s any way he could win because of the rage it would cause. Project Runway would have lower ratings than the Melrose Place revival next season.

    • Lies L.

      Both me and my girlfriend considered Viktor’s outfit the best thing that’s come out of this season of PR, and we’d both wear it in a heartbeat. It was adorable, and the accessories (except perhaps the necklace) were fitting and appropriate. Josh’s outfit wasn’t bad, and certainly classier than oh, ANYTHING ELSE he has ever done, but this was just beautiful.

      About Bert’s: it wasn’t great, but eh. I suppose he gave his clients what they asked for. I really like Bert again.

    • Anonymous

      I loved this outfit and I wish I could wear it myself.  The accessorizing was perfect.  The necklace is not one I would buy for myself, but it seems to soften the color of the blouse and tie it into the skirt.  The clutch is adorable.  Any fit issues here would obviously have been resolved if this were the real world with ample time for a fitting.  And her hair, omigosh so cute.  She looks beautiful.  Another cute accessory is her husband.  They are a really great looking couple.

      And speaking of couples, Bert’s client’s husband needs a good whack upside the head, and if his wife is not willing to do it I would be happy to do it for her.  His comments about her boobs were tacky beyond belief.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JQSQJRAL4YYWB2OZNHNUHKZAEY Christopher

      I declared Viktor the winner as soon as she turned the corner.  The clutch is what I thought brought the look all together.  I thought the necklace was too heavy for the blouse.  Thanks TLo for explaining to me the judges critiques of the accessories because I just didn’t see where thier complaints were coming from.  I think Nina praised the clutch as well.  I guess this year you need to think like a producer to predict these wins.

      • Anonymous

        And it seemed, at least as edited on TV, that Nina was pushing Viktor for the win.  Maybe there’s a bit of in-house bickering going on as a result of last season.  You like that one, OK, I’m going the opposite way just to piss you off!

    • Anonymous

      Agree on all counts. Viktor should have had the win here for a really cute ensemble that fit the client to a T.

      Plus, I’d like to bring up another point. It seems to me that the judges – being experts in the fashion field – always ask for more clever design, more interesting elements, more color. And yet, they consistently reward little black dresses that are just nice over other designs that actually fulfill the challenge and expectations. Don’t get me wrong, I love black and wear it a lot. And it’s expected that the designers would use black a lot too because it is fashionable. But this is a design competition. Look back over the years and count the number of black dresses that won over more interesting looks, there are many. 

    • Anonymous

      I did agree with the judges that the sunglasses had to go – I kinda wanted to rip them off when she came down the runway, I might just dislike gigantic sunglasses though – but was quite confused when they said the clutch did. It tied in nicely with the yellow in the skirt and was cute. I actually initially didn’t like the look, but it’s one of those things that gets more interesting the more you look at it, and Josh’s look got less interesting. That’s why I’d give the win to Viktor, it takes skill to make something where you get more intrigued each time you see it.

    • Anonymous

      Lets see here, making a dress that suits  specific client to a T, accessorize it appropriately, make the client look both thrilled and comfortable in her own skin.  Well, clearly that is a loser.  The judging here is so clearly partisan as to make it laughable – except that Viktor was robbed so he isn’t laughing at all.

      Re Bert’s offering, I must confess to a previous life in a medieval/renaissance organization.  Because I lived in the muggy south I typically made and wore Italian renaissance clothing.  Tiny bodices with a little boning so they would remain in place tended to show vast tracks of land.  What made the clothing beautiful and tasteful was not showing too much and having long flowing skirts that gave some relief to the eye from miles of bare skin.  “Short, tight and shiny”…who do we usually criticize for that combo?  While Bert’s dress was well made it did not flatter the wearer because little was left to the imagination.

      • Anonymous

        And that’s just the way her husband (and she) liked it…no imagination needed.

        • Anonymous

          As is the case with an LBD.

    • Anonymous

      Lets see here, making a dress that suits  specific client to a T, accessorize it appropriately, make the client look both thrilled and comfortable in her own skin.  Well, clearly that is a loser.  The judging here is so clearly partisan as to make it laughable – except that Viktor was robbed so he isn’t laughing at all.

      Re Bert’s offering, I must confess to a previous life in a medieval/renaissance organization.  Because I lived in the muggy south I typically made and wore Italian renaissance clothing.  Tiny bodices with a little boning so they would remain in place tended to show vast tracks of land.  What made the clothing beautiful and tasteful was not showing too much and having long flowing skirts that gave some relief to the eye from miles of bare skin.  “Short, tight and shiny”…who do we usually criticize for that combo?  While Bert’s dress was well made it did not flatter the wearer because little was left to the imagination.

    • Anonymous

      Lets see here, making a dress that suits  specific client to a T, accessorize it appropriately, make the client look both thrilled and comfortable in her own skin.  Well, clearly that is a loser.  The judging here is so clearly partisan as to make it laughable – except that Viktor was robbed so he isn’t laughing at all.

      Re Bert’s offering, I must confess to a previous life in a medieval/renaissance organization.  Because I lived in the muggy south I typically made and wore Italian renaissance clothing.  Tiny bodices with a little boning so they would remain in place tended to show vast tracks of land.  What made the clothing beautiful and tasteful was not showing too much and having long flowing skirts that gave some relief to the eye from miles of bare skin.  “Short, tight and shiny”…who do we usually criticize for that combo?  While Bert’s dress was well made it did not flatter the wearer because little was left to the imagination.

    • Anonymous

      Lets see here, making a dress that suits  specific client to a T, accessorize it appropriately, make the client look both thrilled and comfortable in her own skin.  Well, clearly that is a loser.  The judging here is so clearly partisan as to make it laughable – except that Viktor was robbed so he isn’t laughing at all.

      Re Bert’s offering, I must confess to a previous life in a medieval/renaissance organization.  Because I lived in the muggy south I typically made and wore Italian renaissance clothing.  Tiny bodices with a little boning so they would remain in place tended to show vast tracks of land.  What made the clothing beautiful and tasteful was not showing too much and having long flowing skirts that gave some relief to the eye from miles of bare skin.  “Short, tight and shiny”…who do we usually criticize for that combo?  While Bert’s dress was well made it did not flatter the wearer because little was left to the imagination.

    • Anonymous

      Lets see here, making a dress that suits  specific client to a T, accessorize it appropriately, make the client look both thrilled and comfortable in her own skin.  Well, clearly that is a loser.  The judging here is so clearly partisan as to make it laughable – except that Viktor was robbed so he isn’t laughing at all.

      Re Bert’s offering, I must confess to a previous life in a medieval/renaissance organization.  Because I lived in the muggy south I typically made and wore Italian renaissance clothing.  Tiny bodices with a little boning so they would remain in place tended to show vast tracks of land.  What made the clothing beautiful and tasteful was not showing too much and having long flowing skirts that gave some relief to the eye from miles of bare skin.  “Short, tight and shiny”…who do we usually criticize for that combo?  While Bert’s dress was well made it did not flatter the wearer because little was left to the imagination.

    • Anonymous

      Lets see here, making a dress that suits  specific client to a T, accessorize it appropriately, make the client look both thrilled and comfortable in her own skin.  Well, clearly that is a loser.  The judging here is so clearly partisan as to make it laughable – except that Viktor was robbed so he isn’t laughing at all.

      Re Bert’s offering, I must confess to a previous life in a medieval/renaissance organization.  Because I lived in the muggy south I typically made and wore Italian renaissance clothing.  Tiny bodices with a little boning so they would remain in place tended to show vast tracks of land.  What made the clothing beautiful and tasteful was not showing too much and having long flowing skirts that gave some relief to the eye from miles of bare skin.  “Short, tight and shiny”…who do we usually criticize for that combo?  While Bert’s dress was well made it did not flatter the wearer because little was left to the imagination.

    • Anonymous

      Lets see here, making a dress that suits  specific client to a T, accessorize it appropriately, make the client look both thrilled and comfortable in her own skin.  Well, clearly that is a loser.  The judging here is so clearly partisan as to make it laughable – except that Viktor was robbed so he isn’t laughing at all.

      Re Bert’s offering, I must confess to a previous life in a medieval/renaissance organization.  Because I lived in the muggy south I typically made and wore Italian renaissance clothing.  Tiny bodices with a little boning so they would remain in place tended to show vast tracks of land.  What made the clothing beautiful and tasteful was not showing too much and having long flowing skirts that gave some relief to the eye from miles of bare skin.  “Short, tight and shiny”…who do we usually criticize for that combo?  While Bert’s dress was well made it did not flatter the wearer because little was left to the imagination.

    • Anonymous

      Lets see here, making a dress that suits  specific client to a T, accessorize it appropriately, make the client look both thrilled and comfortable in her own skin.  Well, clearly that is a loser.  The judging here is so clearly partisan as to make it laughable – except that Viktor was robbed so he isn’t laughing at all.

      Re Bert’s offering, I must confess to a previous life in a medieval/renaissance organization.  Because I lived in the muggy south I typically made and wore Italian renaissance clothing.  Tiny bodices with a little boning so they would remain in place tended to show vast tracks of land.  What made the clothing beautiful and tasteful was not showing too much and having long flowing skirts that gave some relief to the eye from miles of bare skin.  “Short, tight and shiny”…who do we usually criticize for that combo?  While Bert’s dress was well made it did not flatter the wearer because little was left to the imagination.

    • Anonymous

      Spot on with the Piperlime comment! They used to mention bad shoes, bags and whatnot even when it was sponsored. I guess back in the Bravo Bluefly days. They went on and on about Josh pairing those shoes with his dress. Puh-lease, women have been pairing bright shoes with the lbd forever. That doesn’t take a style genius to do! And as was mentioned before, the main reason the clutch got mentioned was that it wasn’t from the Piperlime wall. Sad that a designer’s skill & creativity cost him the win!

      • Anonymous

        Totally agree.  If Viktor’s clutch had been off the Piperlime wall it would have never been criticized. 

        There is no innovation in pairing bright shoes with a lbd. 

      • Anonymous

        Great points. The fact that Viktor made 2 well designed pieces PLUS an adorable accessory merited more praise from the judges.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t see how carrying sunglasses is being over accessorized. In the real world, we carry sunglasses all the time. We sometimes even wear them, you know, for blocking out the sun. I guess in fashion, utility is a no-no.

      I thought the fit on Bert’s was awful and not up to par for him. For all the talk about his client’s rack, it didn’t make much of an impact in the outfit. Victor really understood his client and delivered the look that perfectly reflected her body and her personality. And it was cute. I guess that’s why he lost. That Piperlime necklace as about the ONLY thing I disliked about the outfit.

    • Anonymous

      And Viktor’s outfit actually covered the woman’s back!

      • Anonymous

        Josh’s client did have a beautiful back, though.

    • http://profiles.google.com/phyllis.craine Phyllis Craine

      I didn’t notice that collar  until you pointed it out.  I suspect its not interfaced and that’s why it looks funny.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor was robbed yet again.  I think he lost because the wife mentioned that the original sketch had long sleeves, implying that she improved an otherwise oK design.  It’s too bad because this really was a winning look.  Current, colorful, playful and professional all in one.  That’s extremely hard to do.  I don’t think the producers will let Viktor win, but he is, in my opinion, this season’s top designer. 

      • Anonymous

        Honestly, I think the only reason he didn’t win was because the judges don’t like him and are trying to cut him down to size to trick people into forgetting about him.

        • Anonymous

          You are probably right!  He doesn’t have an advocate among the judges whereas Anya and Josh M clearly do.  

    • Anonymous

      Viktor has become one of my favorites. 

      He did a terrific job of understanding her style and executed it well.  His model’s better half is so cute in his seersucker suit.  I couldn’t stop mentioning it much to the dismay of my family.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      I actually disagree about Viktor’s.  It was cute enough, but the yellow stripe on the skirt, to me, seemed to send it into costume-land, and I didn’t like the sleeves very well, or the tuck-in at the waist, which looked like the blouse was trying to escape already.  (Of course, I’m not a big fan of blouses that are tucked into waistlines, rather than finished and meant to be worn on the outside.  I think the always look like they’re about to escape, so that might just be me. Same with the fact that I don’t like yellow, which more or less prejudices me against it.)  Add the purse that matched the stripe, and it heads for Barbie territory.

      I’m glad to see fuller skirts, but I just wasn’t all that fond of this one.  I liked Vortex’s better, just aesthetically speaking. He’s an unpleasant idiot, but I don’t have an issue with this win.  I hoped he’d make a bad dress and go home, but he made a cute dress and won.  I wouldn’t have screamed or anything if they’d picked Viktor.  It was cute in its way.  But I liked Vortex’s better, no matter how little I wanted to–and the judges’ call is the one I’d have made.

      On Bert’s, is it my imagination that it’s pulling in all the wrong directions over her lower belly?  Hard to avoid, but I guess I was surprised at the “impeccably made and fitted, but…” comments.

      • MilaXX

        I thought the cut of Bert’s skirt was all wrong for her body. It gave her a pooch and made her look thick waisted. I think a circle skirt or even a simple A line would have balanced her out better.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, exactly.  Just the wrong shape on her entirely.  I’m trying to get back on the Bert train, but this was just disappointing.  I’m thinking that maybe too simple and outdated aren’t the only issues w/his design skills. 

    • Anonymous

      I liked the necklace (I’m clearly flying solo on that), loved the clutch, and frankly, didn’t even notice the sunglasses The client wears glasses, btw, I don’t know why he didn’t just let her wear her own cool pair.

      • Anonymous

        OK, never mind, I’m willing to admit the necklace was a bit much. I still don’t hate it, it’s just too big for the girl.

        • Anonymous

          Since they have to pick accessories provided by the sponsor. I assume his choices were limited. This may have been the best of the lot, and it does take your eye away from the wonky collar.

      • MilaXX

        I liked the necklace too, in fact I started to buy one similar to it, but didn’t like how it sat on my chest. I thought is was fine with Viktor’s outfit.

      • Anonymous

        You’re not alone in that. I liked the necklace. I think it helped take the outfit to funky rather than twee place.

        • Anonymous

          I totally agree, and I think it added some colors that tied everything together without being matchy-matchy.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, good call!

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        Maybe they were prescription sunglasses? Maybe she wouldn’t be able to get down the runway without tripping, so she had to wear something & they decided to go with her RX shades rather than clear lenses. Long shot. But who knows. SO much stuff gets cut, you literally never know.

    • Anonymous

      I completely agree that Viktor was the obvious winner.  Stupid judging. 

      The necklace was a bit much…over sized…but it tied all the colors of the outfit together, so I think it was a smart accessory to utilize.  Perhaps he could have eliminated the sunglasses, but come on, she was hardly over accessorized.  She looked great.

    • Anonymous

      I’m partial to Viktor’s because it’s something I’d want to wear (assuming I was 5″ taller and 20lb skinnier)

      I just want to shoot Drama Vortex into the fucking sun

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFW22QV426LUOEPGASPZJWJMDE MishaFoomin

      From here on out, any hissing Viktor does will be justified. Can’t understand his lack of wins. Maybe he needs to do more hissing in front of the other contestants rather than just in the confession booth to show the producers he is very dramatic and ratings-worthy.

      • Anonymous

        Add a subtle bit of sucking up to MK and Nina and he might be on his way to the top. 

    • BuffaloBarbara

       I like the necklace itself, but it was too much with the fussy blouse.  On a plainer top, it would be awesome.

    • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

      I was very unhappy with the way Bert’s dress fit over the belly; that’s why he should have been dinged, frankly.   It’s a remarkably unflattering look below the boobs  .   More fullness in the overall taper would have been much more becoming.    And yes, Viktor hit it out of the park, and was ignored again.  Dammit.

    • Anonymous

      i know you guys have been really busy with fashion week, but i thought it was worth mentioning that you missed blogging the latest RZP episode!

    • Anonymous

      I think the fact that Viktor’s looks like you could buy it at Anthroplogie puts it in second place behind Anya’s, in my scoring. That said, I liked Viktor’s look very much. He and Anya were blessed with stylish, sophisticated clients. I’m not knocking Viktor’s or Anya’s work by any means, but I think they were already a step ahead of the other designers in that way. I would love to see what either of them would have done with Bert’s client. That would have been a great test of their design mettle.

      As for Bert, I have to say I enjoyed watching prickly old Bert interacting with that couple. It was so entertaining, really very cute. And yes, his dress was standard, but his client was soooo happy with it. I liked the way the fabric direction played out on the bodice vs dress. Loved that Heidi complimented the client’s boobs and commiserated over liking her skirts shorter than people think they should be. In the end, I think Bert being one of the bottom 3 was totally fair.

      • Anonymous

        I left team Bert a few weeks ago, but have been slowly coming back (especially when Drama Vortex out-drama’d him). I have to say, he knows how to work well with clients unlike some precious moments designers. 

        edited: to make my comment seem somewhat comprehensible.

        • Anonymous

          Since Bert is twice Clinique’s age, I’m guessing that life and maturity have just diminished whatever DramaVortex was in him and made him both more patient with clients and at times easier and harder to live with.

    • Mariah J

      Ah thank you!! If they had to take anything away from Viktor’s model it should have been the ugly piperlime necklace. And Bert’s client really came off as an asshole “What do I like about my wife…uhh her boobs” while poor wifey (probably not the first time) says “Look at my body, my husband loves it. Boobs here, legs all over the place, tight and shiny!” and would rather look like a street walker than a lady to please him.

    • Anonymous

      VIktor did so much more than the other contestants by offering his couple what they both wanted, offering something stylish, and something fashionable. If anything working with a more fashion-minded couple could be harder, not easier. Viktor was fortunate that they seemed pretty low on drama and in sync with his style esthetic. So, Viktor loses because he succeeded in the challenge and was lucky in his couple match?

      And the sunglasses thing? My guess is that the woman wanted something to show a little personality on the runway. There’s not a lot to do, unless you have something to take off or play with. I’m guessing she asked for a something and either asked for the sunglasses, or Viktor suggested them.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with most of the comments here. However, I do side with the “she is over accessorized” group. When I first saw her come out that was my very first thought about Viktor’s client. I thought he did a nice job – much more interesting the Josh.

      Yes, I do agree Bert deserved to be in the bottom 3. However, one could see his experience with clients come through. He was the only one who kept (for the most part) a straight face when his client acted like a boob. And he asked the wife “are you comfortable with this?” The design was not original, but for me Bert was tops in how he handled the clients. Who knew!

    • http://www.facebook.com/smpflueger Sean McArdle Pflueger

      I was so irritated that Victor didn’t win.  He deserved the win and the judges are smoking crack.

    • Anonymous

      VIktor’s outfit was the clear winner.  Though the skirt looks like its strangling her waist and is too high, making her torso look shorter than it is.   Especially with the contrasting dark shirt and light gray skirt.   But otherwise it’s a smart looking outfit.   Silly judges.

      As for Bert’s client, she does have great boobs.   The best money can buy!

    • Anonymous

      Huge stinking pile of ridiculous judging this week. Apparently having cool, stylish clients is enough of an advantage to disqualify you from the win. “Sorry Viktor, you were smart enough to figure her out and make something perfectly suited to her, so you can’t win the challenge because it was obviously far too easy for you.” Whatthefuckever. Wasn’t Viktor’s client one of the guys who had a lot of trouble describing his lady’s style? Also, SHUT UP judges, that clutch was a great addition to the outfit and speaks highly of his time management and styling abilities.

      Viktor needs to start Hissing again, and pronto. Isn’t it obvious by now that a little ass-hattery here and there will buy you some entertainment value and therefore more time on the show? Unlike some of the others, he’s got the skills to back it up, too.

    • Anonymous

      I agree that overall Viktor has been the best designer this season.  I also agree that he was robbed – last week.  I don’t think he was robbed this week as I actually thought the dress Josh did was better.  Viktor’s was probably more interesting but there were some definite issues with its construction.  Besides the wonky collar and the sleeve problems, the top of the skirt was either badly sewn or badly fitted and the seam between the two colors of the skirt appears puckered.  The top of the skirt is wrinkled or badly gathered (I can’t really tell what the problem is that makes it look so bad)  and looks like it’s pinned in the back (though I’m sure it wasn’t).  I don’t think the outfit was overly accessorized but I do think it was wrongly accessorized – that necklace just does not go with the outfit in terms of its size, shape or style.  I thought the clutch was terrific.  I would not have minded had Viktor been given the win just because it was a more interesting look but I think Josh overall did a better job and when I saw his dress in the workroom I thought he would win with it.  I would love to see Josh out of the competition but I think he really did well this week.  Frankly, after looking at Laura’s outfit on the Lifetime site I thought she should have been in the bottom, which was where I thought Anya was when she was one of the six left on the runway.  I know I’m in a very distinct minority with these comments so there’s no need to bombard me with comments pointing out the error of my ways – it’s simply my opinion.

      • Anonymous

        Well, I agree with you about Laura and Anya this week – I thought those outfits were awful, especially Anya’s. Yikes.

        You may be right about Viktor’s construction issues, but I thought Josh’s LBD was a bit too ordinary for a winning outfit.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

        There’s nothing wrong with Viktor’s outfit that a little more time in construction and a few extra fittings wouldn’t fix. For something done under the time constraints it’s great.

    • Anonymous

      I agree that overall Viktor has been the best designer this season.  I also agree that he was robbed – last week.  I don’t think he was robbed this week as I actually thought the dress Josh did was better.  Viktor’s was probably more interesting but there were some definite issues with its construction.  Besides the wonky collar and the sleeve problems, the top of the skirt was either badly sewn or badly fitted and the seam between the two colors of the skirt appears puckered.  The top of the skirt is wrinkled or badly gathered (I can’t really tell what the problem is that makes it look so bad)  and looks like it’s pinned in the back (though I’m sure it wasn’t).  I don’t think the outfit was overly accessorized but I do think it was wrongly accessorized – that necklace just does not go with the outfit in terms of its size, shape or style.  I thought the clutch was terrific.  I would not have minded had Viktor been given the win just because it was a more interesting look but I think Josh overall did a better job and when I saw his dress in the workroom I thought he would win with it.  I would love to see Josh out of the competition but I think he really did well this week.  Frankly, after looking at Laura’s outfit on the Lifetime site I thought she should have been in the bottom, which was where I thought Anya was when she was one of the six left on the runway.  I know I’m in a very distinct minority with these comments so there’s no need to bombard me with comments pointing out the error of my ways – it’s simply my opinion.

    • Anonymous

      I agree that overall Viktor has been the best designer this season.  I also agree that he was robbed – last week.  I don’t think he was robbed this week as I actually thought the dress Josh did was better.  Viktor’s was probably more interesting but there were some definite issues with its construction.  Besides the wonky collar and the sleeve problems, the top of the skirt was either badly sewn or badly fitted and the seam between the two colors of the skirt appears puckered.  The top of the skirt is wrinkled or badly gathered (I can’t really tell what the problem is that makes it look so bad)  and looks like it’s pinned in the back (though I’m sure it wasn’t).  I don’t think the outfit was overly accessorized but I do think it was wrongly accessorized – that necklace just does not go with the outfit in terms of its size, shape or style.  I thought the clutch was terrific.  I would not have minded had Viktor been given the win just because it was a more interesting look but I think Josh overall did a better job and when I saw his dress in the workroom I thought he would win with it.  I would love to see Josh out of the competition but I think he really did well this week.  Frankly, after looking at Laura’s outfit on the Lifetime site I thought she should have been in the bottom, which was where I thought Anya was when she was one of the six left on the runway.  I know I’m in a very distinct minority with these comments so there’s no need to bombard me with comments pointing out the error of my ways – it’s simply my opinion.

    • Anonymous

      I owned Victor’s skirt back in the 80s except it was cream with a burgandy stripe.  I loved that fucking skirt and want this one!  Yes, there were a few construction issues but this is chic and hip and frankly, I like the idea of the necklace – this one is just a bit too big for his client’s frame. Hiss away, Vicktor! This win to the Vortex of Hell is a clear spotlight on producer manipulation that goes above and beyond any in previous seasons. B/M has destroyed this show.

    • Anonymous

      I owned Victor’s skirt back in the 80s except it was cream with a burgandy stripe.  I loved that fucking skirt and want this one!  Yes, there were a few construction issues but this is chic and hip and frankly, I like the idea of the necklace – this one is just a bit too big for his client’s frame. Hiss away, Vicktor! This win to the Vortex of Hell is a clear spotlight on producer manipulation that goes above and beyond any in previous seasons. B/M has destroyed this show.

    • Anonymous

      I owned Victor’s skirt back in the 80s except it was cream with a burgandy stripe.  I loved that fucking skirt and want this one!  Yes, there were a few construction issues but this is chic and hip and frankly, I like the idea of the necklace – this one is just a bit too big for his client’s frame. Hiss away, Vicktor! This win to the Vortex of Hell is a clear spotlight on producer manipulation that goes above and beyond any in previous seasons. B/M has destroyed this show.

    • http://onionjam.tumblr.com SkipperJane

      I definitely think Viktor should have won – and not just because I liked his outfit the best from a stylistic standpoint.  I also thought it cute that both Viktor and his client were wearing complementary bow ties on the runway!

    • Anonymous

      Viktor’s client walked into the workroom with a version of the same skirt. It also was done in the 1980s. And the 1950s. For crying out loud, I’m guessing we could go back every three decade throughout history and find some version of Viktor’s skirt. Just saying.

      • Anonymous

        But he hadn’t seen her style before he designed the skirt in his sketch, right?  He shouldn’t be faulted because he happened to guess right.

        • Anonymous

          But he hadn’t seen her style before he designed the skirt in his sketch, right?

          RIght.  It was very telling that her spouse, unlike any of the others, was able to describe her style so precisely that Viktor was able to design something that suited her exactly.

        • Anonymous

          Correct — and it’s both to his and the husband’s credit while simultaneously going to the fact that it’s a cut that has been around forever and everyone knows it. I didn’t mean to sound like I was completely knocking it because I liked Viktor’s the best this week. But I think of his look as more a classic style than … fashion. If there’s such a distinction and both of them can be positive things.

          • http://www.tomandorenzo.com Tom and Lorenzo

            A high waisted pleated skirt under a sheer blouse is a pretty specifically modern look. A low-cut minidress is not. We guess you could call it “classic,” but to us Bert’s dress just looked generic.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

              It was generic in a nice way and the client loved it. In anything else but a fashion competition he’s have hit a home run. Bert could have a very nice career as a dressmaker/seamstress in a conservative community, running up nice little dresses and prom gowns to order.

    • fragileindustries

      No comments on the Curse of The Twee Teal Sheer Blouse theme of this season?  It seems to signal doom for whoever attempts it.  Yup, Victor wuz robbed.  

    • Anonymous

      This is definitely the week i gave up on this season of project runway.
      Sorry lifetime, but this was just too much, too blatant and too hollow.
      If i’m getting drunk with the couple of friends i usually watch it with, then i’ll watch it, cause it’s fun to get drunk by 10:30 on a thursday and yell at the television, it just is.
      But if i’m by myself i’m either not watching it at all or just skipping to either the runway part or just skipping straight to the reviews just to deny lifetime my mouse clicks…
      And i’m certainly not watching next week, no amount of booze and yelling can get me to sit through ANOTHER group challenge.

    • Geno Boggiatto

      I absolutely loved Viktor’s outfit. During the fitting, I was having a Tim moment because I, too, thought she had worn that in right off the street! I kept waiting for her to change into what Viktor had made, but alas, that was the outfit he had made!! He was totally right on with her!

    • Anonymous

      Viktor should have won and so, of course, I knew there way no chance in hell he would. It certainly appears that Viktor isn’t going to win this competition no matter what. I agree that his outfit suited his client perfectly and I thought that overall it was very cute and flirty. As far as the accessories the only thing I disliked was the necklace. It was unnecessary and was just too much with that blouse, but I loved the clutch. Piperlime, gimme a freakin’ break!

      If it weren’t for TLo’s recaps I wouldn’t be able to stomach the show. Too bad I never watched the earlier seasons when it sounds like it was more about actual DESIGN. *sigh*

    • http://twitter.com/evergreen_g G and G

      I have the firm belief that nothing is new under the sun and the same to me, holds true with designing and making clothes. Trends come and go but whatever we’re seeing as trendy right now is an exact rehash of what was once popular. There are obviously classic cuts and shapes that stand the test of time. I tend to personally approach and judge the clothes on this competition based on how I respond to the over-all lool and aesthetic of the garment and the workmanship involved in the process. To me, Viktor wins for the overall look though the workmanship is not the best. Josh M’s garment is well made but doesn’t have as much wow appeal to me. Anya’s, well I just don’t like her stuff.

      • Anonymous

        Anya relies on prints, and her designs are nothing new.  The one sleeve kimono was silly, and the short front long back trend is so overdone…not a fan, but that is just my opinion.  Don’t even know what to say about Josh M…he had a sorority girl as a client, and he turned out a sorority girl dress.  Victors outfit was cute, but I immediately thought Anthropologie when I saw it…not totally a bad thing, as I shop there a lot.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

          The last time that hemline was anything new was the 30’s

    • Anonymous

      If Drama Vortex wins this season (especially after last season’s winner, whats her name???), I’m not watching any more seasons (if they get picked up)!  Hear that LifeTime?

      • Anonymous

        Gads. After seeing the final collections of all and how high on the hideosity scale Drama Vortex scored, I don’t see how he could be named the winner. It would seem impossible – but – given the nonsense wins this season, I guess nothing’s impossible. If it does happen, I think this will be my last season as well.

      • Anonymous

        Too late to threaten.  Winner’s been chosen already.  

    • Anonymous

      I don”t think Bert got enough credit for managing his clients. These challenges are always judged with a double edged sword; if the designer gives the client exactly what they ask for and it’s tasteless, the judges savage them. On the other hand, if the client doesn’t adore the designer’s work, the judges eviscerate them. Bert made a dress which pleased a client with some pretty tacky requirements and barely got a rebuke from the judges.

      And yea, Viktor was robbed – for the second time in a row. I’m starting a to get a “Mondo all over again” vibe here.

      • Anonymous

        I agree about Bert’s client-management. He gave them what they wanted. AND he was VERY good with that obnoxious man in the workroom; no sneering but not egging on the obnoxious. He was polite and attentive and friendly with both Arianna and Anthony. I give him a LOT of credit for knowing how to act like he’d been somewhere; he was the total opposite of that heinous Olievierrieir.

        • Anonymous

          You are so right. I would like to watch the episode a second time but the client with the boob obsession has been keeping me from doing so. It did not occur to me just how well Bert handled that until your post!

        • Anonymous

          You are so right. I would like to watch the episode a second time but the client with the boob obsession has been keeping me from doing so. It did not occur to me just how well Bert handled that until your post!

        • Anonymous

          You are so right. I would like to watch the episode a second time but the client with the boob obsession has been keeping me from doing so. It did not occur to me just how well Bert handled that until your post!

        • Anonymous

          You are so right. I would like to watch the episode a second time but the client with the boob obsession has been keeping me from doing so. It did not occur to me just how well Bert handled that until your post!

    • Anonymous

      The over-accessorizing comment was ridiculous.  Don’t most women have on a necklace, sunglasses and carry a purse when we go out?  What am I supposed to leave at home? 

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Leave the purse at home. You can put your keys and cell phone in your pocke…. oh wait. No you can’t.

        I think most of us do wear some kind of jewelry when we go out. And we carry a bag, and wear sunglasses if needed. It was a preposterous criticism.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Leave the purse at home. You can put your keys and cell phone in your pocke…. oh wait. No you can’t.

        I think most of us do wear some kind of jewelry when we go out. And we carry a bag, and wear sunglasses if needed. It was a preposterous criticism.

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      One more voice saying thanks for the analysis. Victor was robbed. Bert–I thought the dress was OK in that Ariana probably can’t buy something that fits that well off the rack…? It reminded me a bit of “On the Road with Austin and Santino.”  Not great style, but a great dress for this particular woman.

      • Anonymous

        Not great style, but a great dress for this particular woman.

        Whatever happened to the Duchess’ mantra, “the right dress for the right woman”?

    • Anonymous

      Yes, the judges suck ass and I loved the necklace, the clutch and the sunglasses!  I would have maybe done a contrasting color in the clutch but he made it and it looks adorable, a little Etsy, but I love Etsy!  Crack, it’s what the PR judges smoke!

    • Anonymous

      I agree about Viktor. That look had some definite flair and personal style.  I’d have ditched the sunglasses, but the rest was just fine.  I’m not sure why it didn’t win, but I’m pointing the finger at the producers because they seem to be ruining everything else. 

      I think Bert did a better job than his couple deserved.  The husband had no taste whatsoever and the wife wanted to dress to make him happy.  Bert saved it from full-on hoochy, but that’s about all.  Bert’s design aesthetic is classic and simple.  I wish more designers were like that.  Ralph Lauren and Francisco Costs for Calvin Klein seem to be quite successful with it.

    • Lisa

      YES!  Their reasonings for why they wouldn’t give Viktor the win was ridiculous.  I felt that he and Anya were really ripped off.  Josh’s dress was lovely, no doubt, and he did a great job of listening to the client when she wanted to keep it simple, but Viktor and Anya also listened.  It’s just unfair.

    • Anonymous

      Poor Viktor, he had every reason to hiss on this episode, and he didn’t. He should have won.
      Bert’s was middle of the road, if you consider the clients that he was working with.They were very pleased with the dress. It was what he wanted for his wife. So in a way it was a success. The judges didn’t like it because she the client didn’t look skinny. They can be extremely rude .

      Ps do ya’ll miss me? The motherboard of my ol’ put-put melted. So I’m out of commission.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i’d send you a broken mac for postage but it probably wouldnt do you much good.
        {i actually thought this through, btw. i wouldve done it had i thought it would help.}

      • Anonymous

        damn straight I miss you. Unlike many of us here, you know something about the fashion industry &  the real skills appropriate to a person’s training & employment history.  Miss your comments a lot.

        edited for grammar

      • Anonymous

        damn straight I miss you. Unlike many of us here, you know something about the fashion industry &  the real skills appropriate to a person’s training & employment history.  Miss your comments a lot.

        edited for grammar

      • Anonymous

        damn straight I miss you. Unlike many of us here, you know something about the fashion industry &  the real skills appropriate to a person’s training & employment history.  Miss your comments a lot.

        edited for grammar

    • Anonymous

      okay, this is COM-PLETELY off topic, but did anyone else know that Suede had a line of patterns from Simplicity? idk why I find this so funny!

      • Anonymous

        I stumbled on those a while ago while looking for patterns. I giggled too.

      • Anonymous

        I stumbled on those a while ago while looking for patterns. I giggled too.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        oh heavens, he mustve cleaned up.

        cos my impression really was, really, no snark intended, that he falsified receipts for his final collection so he could spend all his money on, um, tweak meth tina crystal, what have you. really. i didnt even think coke, tho i guess it coulda been. just all that cheap cheap fabric in inane insipid colors, pompomy things flying around hemlines…..

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          His collection is the #1 argument for “Decoys don’t get as much money/resources”. But apparently that is not true? You will never get me to believe that he spent the same on his as everyone else. Never. NE-E-E-E-VER. Something shady indeed.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve seen his Simplicity patterns for a while now. He usually has them up on Facebook. I get a cleaned-up, 70’s vibe from his designs. They also seem to be marketed to twenty-somethings.

    • Anonymous

      Word to the entire post. Loved Viktor’s couple and their personal styles! As for Bert’s couple… I appreciate a nice pair of boons like any other woman but I’m not seeing the super-ultra-fantastic-wonderfulness of this woman’s. They were ok, IMO. I have no words for her husband, That Guy.

      • Anonymous

        Well one good thing about “that guy” is , to him they are super-fantastic wonderfulness. And he was probably honesty puzzled as to why everyone on the judging panel didn’t think she looked as great as he did.

    • http://robot-heart.tumblr.com heartbot

      While Bert’s dress does have the sort of hoochie thing going against it, I don’t really understand how this is so different from Josh’s dress at all. Two basic, boring black dresses that could have been sold pretty much any time in the last 20 years? (Seriously. I bought a dress virtually indistinguishable from Josh’s 10 years ago to wear to a sorority dinner.)

      Love Viktor’s outfit. I don’t understand how Josh’s dress won at all.

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      The “fashionable” criticism BS aside, Viktor’s client got me thinking. The designers almost always pick their real world clients based on skinniest/most model-like. Viktor seemed to actually consider the person; deliberately choosing the most stylish. I wonder why the designers don’t usually do that?? Seemed to me like a very smart move.

    • Anonymous

      Amen Deacons Tom and Lorenzo! Viktor’s look was so distinctive and Josh’s… featured a cute pair of pumps. Maybe the judges have so underwhelmed this season that they didn’t know how to react to a great complete look.

      This feels like another shark jumping moment.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor was indeed robbed.  I haven’t been a big fan of his, personality-wise, but I have to admit he’s one of the only designers this season to actually create some interesting looks.  He should have won the last two challenges in a row.

      Judging rules on this show have always been a bit squishy, but lately they’re non-existent.  Were they supposed to please the client, her husband or the judges?  And in what order?  Because, as boring as Bert’s dress is, I have a hard time imagining how he would create a look that would appeal to Michael, Nina and his Jersey Shore client(s).  Of course, we see now that pleasing the client didn’t count for much at all, or Bryce probably wouldn’t have gone home.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        & i’m gonna announce again:
        for once, bryce’s dress was not that bad. the orange straitjacket wasnt too bad either, tho not innovative & ruined by the puff. this one, tho– this one the client liked, it was becoming to the client &, yes, while it wasnt made all that well, it really did the job it set out to do.

        the one i woulda sent home is laura. that dress is horrific. frightening, even.
        but i’ve seen all the runway shows &, while i neither like her nor want her to win {nor think she will}, i do think out of this field entirely populated by also-rans {& bert}, when it all comes out in the everlovin wash, her stuff was the best. pains me to write that.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        & i’m gonna announce again:
        for once, bryce’s dress was not that bad. the orange straitjacket wasnt too bad either, tho not innovative & ruined by the puff. this one, tho– this one the client liked, it was becoming to the client &, yes, while it wasnt made all that well, it really did the job it set out to do.

        the one i woulda sent home is laura. that dress is horrific. frightening, even.
        but i’ve seen all the runway shows &, while i neither like her nor want her to win {nor think she will}, i do think out of this field entirely populated by also-rans {& bert}, when it all comes out in the everlovin wash, her stuff was the best. pains me to write that.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor should’ve won, even though I don’t like him. Why are all the contestants so lame this year personality wise?

      • Anonymous

         Why are all the contestants so lame this year personality wise?

        I’ve never seen a season where so many of the contestants were unlikeable!  Seriously, looking at who’s left, there are only a couple of whom I have any favorable impressions.  Unfortunately, I fear that the finalists will all be people who annoy the heck out of me.  Because, right now, most of them do.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

        Viktor has a bitchy and pretentious streak to him, though he’s making some effort to curb it.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          or maybe he just wants to think of himself as that type of reality show character.

          i cant tell, really. i may be alone in this, but i didnt like the way he acted w/ bert. not that bert was nice in return, mind you, but my guess is that once viktor called him out in front of the broadcast universe as someone he did not wanna work w/, bert didnt feel like handing him a steaming plateful of kindness. just a guess, one which i have to qualify by saying i felt bad for bert in that situation.

          anyhoo:
          he still is no mondo, neither personality- nor talentwise. i may be alone in this, too, but, so help me, i wouldve given the win this week to, of all people, anya. hers was the only thing on that runway that seemed to me designed instead of just sewn– i’ve worn or sold a version of viktor’s so many times since i was old enough to pick out my own clothes i cant even begin to count them. not that i like anya, nor did i particularly like her dress. i hate one-sleeve items, if i was the king of the world, tell you what i’d do: ban them. but hers was the best made business on that runway.

          the one i’d most likely wear, otoh, was josh’s. but even if i loved him, which i do not, it’s not a design contest winner– nor is he. i’d be pleading for that not to be the outcome, but i live in los angeles, i was raised in the industry &, so help me, when you have a person as televisually perfect as miss t & t, i cant imagine anyone else taking all.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

            I think that Voktor might be a better commercial designer than Mondo- he may not have as distinctive a personal style but Viktor’s clothes would be more broadly saleable…with Mondo if you don’t like those colors and patterns you won’t like his line.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JTKUN6VNACC6CKQ5EGO4L47FWQ Tomek

      I agree.  Victor was the clear winner. 

    • Anonymous

      Bert’s was okay at best, devoid of style and a few inches too short, but I thought that he really showed his professionalism and experience in managing his clients – both in terms of giving them what they wanted without inspiring the judges total ire and in terms of dealing with them politely on a personal level. He deserves tremendous credit for that. (I’ll give his client the benefit of the doubt in assuming the producers put him up to a lot of it, though no doubt the underlying sentiment was true.)

      As for Viktor’s, there is really not much else to say. Viktor did a great job of figuring out his client’s wife’s style and executing it. That the judges seemed to hold it against him that he had stylish clients and listened to them – as though that somehow meant that they did the work for him – was absolutely ridiculous, but I knew the second she mentioned changing the sleeve that the judges were going to punish him for that.

    • Anonymous

      Except for the Burt collaboration, Viktor’s made something good or great each week. His model looks adorable.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NCE7HCMDQDBIQ2ZVGSZPRYSPYA L

      I loved that clutch so much that I’m going to steal his design and make several. Viktor was robbed of the win this week, but I’ll bet he’s getting used to that. Shame, too, because he’s probably the most talented designer in this group.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        you dont have to make one, nor do you have to steal his idea: i promise you, there are ten million of them on etsy. some from chinese resellers, even. it’s been around that long.

    • vmcdanie

      I was baffled-per usual-by the judges saying that sunglasses were over-accessorizing. Huh? And the clutch was so gorgeous, it really helped make the outfit. Viktor’s outfit was adorable and much more original than Josh’s (still leaning toward an Anya win though because he look was so unique but maybe I’ll change my mind once I see the stills.) And judging from his collection, please PLEASE let him be in the final three. 

      I’ve really come around on Bert but his designs fail to excite me week to week. I hate to compare the two, but his outfit reminds me a bit of Ivy. Tasteful but in the main not memorable.

    • Anonymous

      Meh.  I guess Viktor’s is cute, but I’m not getting the love.  I’m not getting the color story at all.  I like the color combination in the skirt, but I don’t see the color of that blouse with it.  And, personally, I think all of them in the top 3 were overpraised — especially Josh and Viktor.  Nice clothes, but, to me — to borrow from La Nina — they’re “just clothes.”

      Am I the only one who thinks a lot of work is getting overpraised this season because there’s not a lot to praise generally, and the judges can’t hand out “well I supposed somebody’s got to win” wins week after week?

      Duchess cracked me up with his singsong, “Always listen to your client.”  I seem to remember in previous seasons the critique was, “You’re the designer!”  Then moments later reversed himself by shaming Bryce’s client.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        B • I • N • G • O

    • http://twitter.com/evergreen_g G and G

      Speaking of Bert, you can’t fault him for making an outfit that looked hoochie. That’s exactly what this couple wanted for him to make and any adornments added to that otherwise simple garments will only make it more ridiculous and he surely will get called out on it by the judges. You could argue that the cut of the skirt is tight and short and he could have made it looser and longer; and in fact, Bert did sound like he was making a baby dress out of what he was making initially but even that would have come out hoochie on this shapely woman. I think he simply lucked out on his choice of model as is the case in the avant garde challenge where he just didn’t have as good a canvas or inspiration to work with as the other designers. 

    • http://impishdiy.blogspot.com Impish DIY

      I LOVE Viktor’s design. I’d wear that in a second, and I don’t even like yellow. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/suzie.vazquez Suzie Vazquez

      I applaud Viktor then for his WIN. Because we truly know that that’s the outfit that won. Over accessorizing.. such a bogus excuse. I’m over Clinique Vortex. He knows how to play the game that’s for sure. But he’s making no friends doing it.  Bert can go now. I respect his previous work with Blass, Halston et al. but his design is just not up to par. How embarrassing for the gal to have her hubby so focused on her rack. Heidi’s comment though would make me feel a lot better about it all! I imagine the wife is accustom to her husband’s antics.

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      I love Viktor but I wonder when he’s going to make a Bjork-worthy, wackadoo outfit like he hinted at in his bio??

    • Anonymous

      Agreed. 100 percent. I thought it reflected a little poorly that she cam in to the fitting wearing the same exact cut of a skirt, obvioulsy very available in sores – but of course very insightful. The necklace was the only bit i disliked.

    • Sylvia Baba

      I honestly loved that necklace.

    • Anonymous

      Viktors looked little girly and not sophisticated to me. Stylish and well made, but not sophisticated.

    • Anonymous

      Just watched on DVR.  What a(nother) judging travesty.  And I’m going to vent:  I’m so tired of hearing people using the word “boobs” I could spit.  I love her boobs!  I hate boobs!  what great boobs!  I can’t work with boobs!  I fell in love with her boobs!  Look at those boobs!  boobs boobs boobs!   Is it so awful to talk about ‘breasts’ that we just can’t bear it?  Or how about ‘bosom’, which TLo used the other day?  Maybe ‘boobs’ de-personalizes them or something.  Oh heck, I’m gonna have another margarita.

      • Anonymous

        It doesn’t bother me, per se, but it’s just such a silly-sounding word – I can’t use it without feeling like I sound like I’m 12.

        I do find it interesting that it seems to have become more or less standard in colloquial American English, almost relegating ‘breasts’ to a formal register, and, perhaps this is a recency illusion on my part, that that seems to have occurred quite recently.

    • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

      Amen! Viktor was the clear winner and we were all SHOCKED that Josh got the win. Josh=Gretchen, Viktor=Mondo?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Claudia-Gilbert/875055316 Claudia Gilbert

        Josh may very well be a Gretchen character, but Viktor is by no means a Mondo!  

        • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

          Not the design! Just the characters ;-)

    • Anonymous

      I got the strong impression that Neanderthal Man bought his wife some big, bubble breast implants and he likes to show them off, like a shiny sports car. 

      • Anonymous

        I thought he said that her breasts were what first caught his eye (in a good way)

        • Anonymous

          Yes, you’re right now that I think of it. I guess she bought them herself, after all.

    • Anne Slovin

      That is a great outfit.  I would buy it!  

    • Anonymous

      the more I see his work, the more I absolutely love Viktor’s work. He was robbed of the win ! It’s a nice, chic look that fulfill the challenge request : create a look respecting the taste of a client and the aesthetic of the designer. job well done. It helped that Viktor’s client was a quirky girl with similar taste in clothes than is design taste, but nontheless it’s lovely done, highly wearable and in fashion. Seeing the top I can’t help but think about Danielle. That kind of top is clearly up her alley but she didn’t managed to produce a decent one. That is not to say Viktor did, because the collar looks sloppy, but I guess that kind of fabric needs time to be used properly and in a challenge where you have to do three pieces in two days it might not be possible.
      I agree with the consensus here : Over-styling ? Please… The clunky jewellry was too much, but the clutch and the sunglasses are nothing. The fact is that the client was styled already, or more than the other ones. Viktor didn’t do much than add a couple of pieces on the garment. I think he decided for the necklace in an attempt to salvage the top. He knew the skirt would do the trick, but I guess he was nervous about the top and decided to modernize it with the necklace.

      Bert’s dress was OK. He earned some more of my love back : he was lovely with the couple and stood by his dress, defending both his point of view and the client’s. I guess he would be a terrible boss : frightening the people working for him if they weren’t up to his scale of behavior/knowledge/talent. But I’m sure he’s absolutely lovely with his clients.
      The skirt needs to be knee high. I’m afraid that Bert’s going to be the next aufee. I can’t see a reason why they would throw so much team challenges in this season if not to trigger more drama and excuses to auf people.
      Next challenge, it’s going to be Josh or Bert.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      i finally watched this.
      i hadnt wanted to cos i just could not stand watching makeup man attack everyone else, suck any positiveness that might linger around the room & generally double-decimate {at the very least} all the ability around him, such as there was, or is.

      havent changed my mind about who shouldve won & lost, but i do think:
      the infusion of a whole mini-mess of sort of happy people into that room was exactly what that room needed. makeup man didnt wanna act out in front of strangers, for one thing. for another there were enough people to diffuse his propensities, whether or not he clung to them, which, strangely, he didnt.

      oliver was just childish. he’s so ridiculously young & so obviously inexperienced at looking at any stranger’s body, of any sex, that his behavior was really minimally annoying. &, yeah, he wouldnt get thru soup at a salad bar w/ me if he’s that terrified of, as we heard over & over, les boobs bigs– & i still think he was only mildly irritating. as an aside, i also think his client was mildly irritating. maybe more than mildly, cos, repetitive or no, the outfit he made was nice.

      laura’s was the worst. i said that earlier, i still think it. it’s neck & neck whether i would be willing to sit in a room w/ either her or josh, i cant stand either of them. he’s just louder. as per: if i remember correctly, other than bert’s {which was beautiful but simple} hers was probably the best final runway show. not that any of them were great. then again, perhaps they look better in person.

      i absolutely hate hatehatehatehate the workroom drama & so i put off watching this. had there been more again this week, i would have stopped watching the show. i know i am not alone in these thoughts. i wish the makers of PR would pay more attention to what i think is a very large minority &, in fact, something that may not be a minority at all, &

      i am really glad the judges werent as hard on those women as i assumed from reading the comments hereupon. yeah, they were annoying, but not to the point where the clients would go home & hate themselves. not to mention that the judges were, in the case of today’s edition, simply & often wrong.

      over & out.

      nite, all.

      edited to add:
      the one thing i did forget. at least for now, those women are lucky to have the guys they have. & the guys are lucky to have them. this, alone, was really nice to see. such a much better show to watch when the people on it are respectful of one another & glad to be doing something they like to do w/ people they like.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017585103 Kanani Fong

      I loved Viktor’s look, and it really should have won. As for Bert’s you’re correct. She really does have a great rack, but the skirt was too short for her full figure, which made the cut of the fabric ride up a bit. Anyway, I hope he steps it up too. I don’t think I can take much more Drama Vortex-discovers-de-bedazzling or Precious Moments wondering if 36D is an apartment number.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017585103 Kanani Fong

      They’re not only unlikeable, they’re also not very interesting. Plus, this group seems to have missed, “How to have fun” lessons in preschool. They just don’t have fun, they don’t like each other, there’s zero interplay except for some bitchery. I miss the days of Santino, Andre, and Nick.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe because the most caustic designers get the most camera time?  There is no reward for professional, courteous behavior.  Each week I’m surprised by how little camera time Kimberly gets, and it most likely because she stays out of the brawl and focuses on her work.  It’s as if PR has become part of the “Housewives” franchise, where unfounded nastiness prevails.  

    • Anonymous

      Drama Vortex – #dead
      I agree with it all, except the clutch was too matchy matchy for me

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVI43MVYAMRZMR6AP75D77CSBQ Anonymous

      Re Bert’s garment, you are of course correct that the choice is normally “boobs or legs” but not both.

      That goes double when a) the boobs are spectacular and b) the legs are, well, not.

      At it’s most basic, a good design accentuates the positives and downplays the weak points.

      Which brings up the issue with Bert this time; he was the only one who acted like he’d seen a real live client before and did a marvelous job translating their wishes but IF his personal calling card is his “taste” then it should have demanded that he leave another inch or two on that hem.

      “Beautifully constructed” my foot. If all he really is is the worlds’ oldest gay seamstress then he doesn’t belong on this show except for comic relief.

      As for Viktor, he did “lunch at the Four Seasons” and Josh did “plumbing supply company Christmas party” and the fact that Josh won says one hell of a lot more about the sad direction of this increasingly silly show than it does about Viktors’ ability.

      What I didn’t realize until I saw your screencaps though was how wonderfully matched the designer and the clients were in their case; way too often in these “normal people” challenges you have someone with neck tats, three face piercings and oddly mismatched clothing which they desperately hope is “outre” looking enough standing there talking about how well they “communicated” with a middle aged, middle class size 8 woman.

      In this case though, if you saw the three of them out to dinner dressed exactly as they are you and your partner would probably spend a few moments idly speculating on who was there with whom.

      They just fit.

    • Anonymous

      Why is saying “you could buy this at a mall” one of the worst things you could say about something?  Considering that’s where most Americans buy their clothes, I take exception to the judges’ utter disdain for mall clothes.  They are powerful people in  American fashion; if they don’t like what most people wear, they certainly have the ability to do something about it.  I think their attitude is a damning indictment of the industry they lead.

      • Anonymous

        And what about the Michael Kors store in my mall?  Hypocritical, a little?

      • http://www.tomandorenzo.com Tom and Lorenzo

        “You could buy this at a mall (or department store)” isn’t meant as a slam against malls or department stores. It’s a slam because this is a design competition and the judges want to see the participants produce something interesting from a design perspective. Don’t confuse Project Runway with the fashion industry. It’s no more representative of the fashion industry than Top Chef is of the restaurant industry or American Idol is of the entertainment industry.

        • Anonymous

          I do see your point, and I’ve thought much the same since I posted my initial comment.  Certainly I understand that the show is not asking people to design for the Gap.  My point is that it is frustrating to me that there can be such a huge difference between the sometime lovely things I see on this blog and what I see in stores or can afford to buy.  Look at the boffo success of the Missoni line at Target.  I think t that there are many people who would love to buy something  more unusual than what we we are offered.

      • Anonymous

        Michael Kors should know…king of mall clothing ;)

      • Anonymous

        Because designer clothing is not the same as mass market clothing. Mass market clothing does, indeed enjoy the largest market share in the fashion industry – by far. But that’s not what this show is about. It is about high-end RTW. It’s like asking why the judges knocked the scrambled eggs on Top Chef when everybody else made exotic, gourmet omelets. It’s not Top Breakfast Maker, and neither is it Project Mall Rack. It’s Project Runway. Mall clothes are not shown on runways at fashion week.

      • Anonymous

        I too feel the “department store” criticisms are invalid in a “real women” challenge.  As much as Oliver’s fat and boobie complaints were obnoxious, as far as the judges go, he’s preaching to the choir.  It is no surprise that the highest rated designs were for the youngest/ectomorphiest women. 

        And frankly Bert’s model looked fine. It’s not like we could see her thighs rubbing together!  She looks like what 50% of women would wear out to drinks.  Nina’s comments about it being too short and shiny revolved around her weight.  I bet had he lowered the hem by 3″ she would have said it was frumpy.

    • cydpaiva

      I thought Josh should have won too. It’s rare that there is something going down that runway that I could and would wear, but this dress was one of them. I LOVE the color combo and that clutch is adorable. The top without that necklace would have been too bare and plain. The necklace punches it up a notch and saves the day.

    • Anonymous

      In a intellectual, theoretical way I can see how this outfit is stylish and contemporary, and certainly less generic than Josh’s.

      That said, I would never, ever, ever in a million years wear it. It is the antithesis of my style. I am clawing at my shoulders right now in sympathetic reaction to the thought of that blouse touching my skin. Ew ew ew get it off me ew!

      I guess it says something about the look having a POV if my reaction is this visceral.

    • Anonymous

      In a intellectual, theoretical way I can see how this outfit is stylish and contemporary, and certainly less generic than Josh’s.

      That said, I would never, ever, ever in a million years wear it. It is the antithesis of my style. I am clawing at my shoulders right now in sympathetic reaction to the thought of that blouse touching my skin. Ew ew ew get it off me ew!

      I guess it says something about the look having a POV if my reaction is this visceral.

    • Anonymous

      In a intellectual, theoretical way I can see how this outfit is stylish and contemporary, and certainly less generic than Josh’s.

      That said, I would never, ever, ever in a million years wear it. It is the antithesis of my style. I am clawing at my shoulders right now in sympathetic reaction to the thought of that blouse touching my skin. Ew ew ew get it off me ew!

      I guess it says something about the look having a POV if my reaction is this visceral.

    • Anonymous

      I was in New York on Thursday, so I just saw this episode this morning. Regard’s Burt’s client, and you’re comment, “Because who can deny that she has a SPECTACULAR rack on her?” – in a game of Real-or-Fake… FAKE!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Catherine-Rhodes/602850414 Catherine Rhodes

      I thought this look was boring. Hated the necklace.

      IMHO Maya was robbed by Victor and Clinique Counter.

    • Anonymous

      Poor Hissy.  He really deserved the last two wins if you ask me.

      • Anonymous

        indubitably

      • Anonymous

        indubitably

    • Anonymous

      That necklace is hideous. HIDEOUS.

    • Anonymous

      That necklace is hideous. HIDEOUS.

    • Anonymous

      You guys are making this show worth watching this season. I’m still waiting for some real talent to make me gasp. So far Viktor has come closest for me. Loved his outfit this week.

    • http://www.facebook.com/karyn.waladkewics Karyn Waladkewics

      this was hands on my favorite too. that couple was so cute and fashionable, too. not quite “real housewife” types like some of the others….but the necklace was tragic. boo, judges. you fail.

    • Anonymous

      Nothing new to say, but dammit, I’ll say it anyway:

      Sloppy waistband or not, Viktor shoulda won for that skirt, I thought the top was less striking.

      I hope Bert gets the career boost he wants from PR, even if it’s just the ability to bump up prices for work he does as a custom dressmaker/designer.  He’ll be lucky to make final 3, but when he’s not lashing out at people, I like him and more than that I respect him. I don’t know how unusual it is to be able to fit & construct beautiful clean lines in the fashion industry, I would have thought it was kind of a baseline pre-requisite, though you wouldn’t know it by PR contestants.

    • Anonymous

      I love that YOU loved Martha Plimpton’s dress/look for the Emmy’s!  She was my favorite.

    • Wrenaria

      I looooooooooved Victor’s outfit. I want it in my closet. 

    • http://twitter.com/mellafe natalia h

      Super agreed. And I want that outfit. It’s so me. :(

    • Anonymous

      Victor was totally robbed. The necklace was the only thing I didn’t like. The outfit was adorable, the clutch was perfect. It suited her so well. Bah!

    • Anonymous

      Victor was totally robbed. The necklace was the only thing I didn’t like. The outfit was adorable, the clutch was perfect. It suited her so well. Bah!