PR: The Tyranny of “Day to Evening”

Posted on August 22, 2011

The problem with “day to evening” challenges is that they’re not about design; they’re about styling. You crack open any fashion magazine and you’ll find a how-to on going from TPS reports to martinis in the same skirt – and it’s always about wearing a simple outfit to work which you’re then supposed to tart up with accessories at 5 o’clock in the ladies room. “Design a ‘day to evening’ look” is an almost nonsensical directive. The entries almost always come down on one or the other side of divide. The winning outfit this week managed to straddle the line, but that was partially because it was an outfit only a fashion editor could get away with wearing to work.

We would say the following entries were roughly equal in terms of execution and style, but one wound up on top and the other wound up on the bottom. Why? Because one was clearly an evening look and one was clearly an office look.

Little Hissing Viktor needs to stop sitting like a lady and stop hissing at the camera over perceived instances of “cheating” which aren’t cheating to anyone who’s ever watched the show.

But credit where it’s due: the little bitch whipped up a chic look.



The thing is, we’re not nearly in love with this as the judges were. It’s fine, but the LBD is an awfully safe choice; so safe that it borders on cliche.

Not to mention it’s easily as referential of Roland Mouret (who Nina has been known to favor) as Anthony’s looks have been of Gucci and McQueen. Anthony gets wrist-slapped for that but as far as we can see, no one complained that Viktor made a dress that Nina has surely seen before.

And the styling could not have been any less inspired. A black dress with black pumps and a sleek pony tail. That’s not a look for a fashion editor, it’s a look for a hostess at a restaurant.

And finally, on our list of complaints…



Was this really as well-made as all the judges kept claiming? It looked awfully home-sewn to us. You can see every seam from 20 feet away.


Certainly not a bad entry, but we question whether it deserved the amount of praise it received.

 

As a reality show contestant, we’d say Danielle’s a bit of a bust. Too serious and too quiet. Where’s the drama, girl? You think you’re going to stay in the game on sewing alone?

The funny thing is, we think this look is far better than Viktor’s, yet it wound up on the bottom.

Even funnier: it deserved to be on the bottom, despite the parts we like.


Viktor made a dress that was all evening, making it a bit too formal for the office. Danielle’s design was all office, with nothing that demonstrated a transition into evening.


The judges unsheathed their claws for this look, but we didn’t agree. The problem – aside from the too-casual aspect – was that this isn’t a day look for fashion editor in her 40s; it’s a day look for an editorial assistant in her 20s. It doesn’t speak to Nina’s position or even her personal style.

As a designer, Danielle should understand that what looks good on her pale-skinned, ginger-haired model isn’t necessarily going to look good on Nina. This color would be horrible against Nina’s skin.

And yes, that collar is sad.


But we liked the silhouette and the color. The pants were pretty nice too. What puzzles us is her apparent refusal to style the look for anything but daytime. Where’s the jewelry and bag to indicate this is evening-appropriate? Sure, it’s NOT really evening-appropriate, but she could have dressed it up to make it look so.

Everything about this look says “I’m booking the conference room and sending someone out to get your coffee, Ms. Garcia.”

Clear message for future contestants: come down on the side of “evening” if you want to win a “day to evening” challenge.

[Photo Credit: Barbara Nitke/MyLifetime.com - Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

    • Judy_J

      Danielle’s blouse looks better in these photos than it did on my TV screen, but it’s still kind of sad.  Viktor/Viktoria’s dress was better, but that horizontal seam on the skirt really bothered me. Alot.  And it certainly could have been jazzed up a bit with some accessories.  As it was, it was just plain boring.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

        Would it have killed either of them to throw a bangle on a wrist?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

        Would it have killed either of them to throw a bangle on a wrist?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

        Would it have killed either of them to throw a bangle on a wrist?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

        Would it have killed either of them to throw a bangle on a wrist?

    • Erika Shor

      Danielle’s outfit left me cold, but I really liked Viktor’s design. Yes, it looked like something of Roland Mouret, but since Nina loves RM, isn’t that a smart choice? So far I have liked everything Viktor has produced (at least in the non-team challenges). I do wish he’d stop hissing and hope he’ll go far.

    • Anonymous

      Didn’t think it was as bad as the judges said, but she really needs to step up having a personality.  No one is going to remember her.

      • Anonymous

        I think she has more personality than Leanne ever did, and Leanne won the thing.

        • Anonymous

          Leanne was shown joking around a lot in her quirky kind of way.  This one does seem quite serious.

        • Anonymous

          Leanne had a very wicked, dry sense of humor. After all, she was the one who took on Blayne’s constant use of “-licious” and coined the term “barfalicious.”

          • Anonymous

            As if coming up with ‘barfalicious’ is indicative of a “wicked, dry” sense of humour!

    • Anonymous

      Now that I see the close-ups, gak! Victor’s construction was very “home ec class.” 

      And the coffee had better be hot, as in “center of the sun” hot.

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      Yes, Viktor’s outfit was very referential. I liked it, but it was definitely a knockoff.
      Danielle’s outfit depressed me, it didn’t say editorial assistant as much as insurance company receptionist. It would have been perfect for the Macy’s/INC challenge in S3. Also, there was a lot of talk about that ombre splatter print being used a lot, but not about a shitton of kelly green floating about the workroom.

      • Frank Quotes

        Agreed. I used to work as a teller at a bank and this totally would have been appropriate there – but even there, it would have been kind of a blah, didn’t have anything more exciting to wear today, kind of outfit. I can’t see someone in the fashion industry wearing this. It looks like it’s from Talbot’s. 

      • Anonymous

        I love the color of the blouse (green is my favorite, and I am a pasty strawberry-blonde), but, IMO, the collar, messy hair, and lack of accessorizing are what made it look sad. The sheerness factor that Danielle kept talking about had nothing to do with it.

        • Anonymous

          And, while I think it’s pretty, Nina would NEVER wear that twee, Edwardian-style pendant. Ever. I’ve never seen her do vintage at all, come to think of it.

      • Anonymous

        Viktor’s sure looks like a direct  ripoff of the Roland Mouret ‘Giselle’ dress to me.  Change the neckline, cut it into two pieces and land in the top three on PR. 

    • http://twitter.com/bredalot Breda Smith

      Hah, the fact that I looked at that last outfit and went, “Man, I would so totally buy & wear that to work,” is proof that it’s perfect for an editorial assistant in her 20s. (Even worse: I work in books, not fashion.) But still: a pretty cute look, and I LOVE that color (on me).

      • http://twitter.com/Iris_awesome Iris Morrell

        Exactly!  It’s so marketable, but not for women of Nina’s age & level of accomplishment (and wallet size).  It’s for women who are still working their way up.   It wasn’t a total failure, unlike that sad Wilma.  I would like to see — from a safe distance — the office where anyone would wear that Wilma dress to work.  But Danielle’s outfit, that would sell like chicken Caesar salads.

      • Anonymous

        I would have worn that, too, when I was an editorial assistant. But now I’m a freelance editor and I get to wear whatever I want. :)

      • http://twitter.com/multislack Sandhya

        exactly! I’m a journalist in her 20s. I’d probably also wear viktor’s to work though tbh

    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      She really paid not attention at all to anything Nina or Tim said to her. 

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t see the love for Viktor’s look either. It was just so boring

    • Anonymous

      I was actually with the judges on these two. Well…Danielle shouldn’t have been in the bottom compared to say, the disaster of Bryce, but I thought Viktor’s dress took something incredibly basic and elevated it a bit. And Danielle put in tons of effort into her pieces but ended up with something that looked like you could grab it at Filene’s Basement.

      And that’s not a knock on Filene’s Basement. Trust: MUCH of my clothing comes from there. But I don’t go there for things that are special, and I certainly wouldn’t go there to dress a fashion editor, y’know? And that collar was totally Droopy Dog.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor’s model clearly hates her life. Her facial expression is sour or melancholy in every screen shot!

      • Toni Mitt

        Seems to me all the models are like that this year–dour and pissed-looking all the time.  Are they mad because there’s no “MOTR” this year?  Or even model choosing scenes? 

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

          Apparently the model working with the winning designer this season doesn’t benefit in any material way-at least I haven’t heard a thing about that in any episode. 

          • Anonymous

            In the intro, Heidi still gives the spiel about what the model wins. I don’t normally notice the models too much, but I have noticed this group because they’re so terrible. 

          • Anonymous

            I definitely heard mention of the model paired with the winning designer being in a spread in Marie Claire, but I don’t remember hearing if she wins $$ or anything else.

            • http://twitter.com/Wild_Horses__ Beth

              I thought Heidi said the winning model gets $25k, but I’m not certain.

    • Anonymous

      That last photo makes me think she does the same thing as Anya – dress and style her model after herself.

      • Anonymous

        So right. I definitely think, if she fixed the collar, Danielle herself would look terrific in that outfit.

        But not Nina.

    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      And Viktor, I just wanna slap little Mr Whiney pants.  I thought his dress was sharp looking but not quite on target for the challenge.

    • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

      And Viktor, I just wanna slap little Mr Whiney pants.  I thought his dress was sharp looking but not quite on target for the challenge.

    • http://twitter.com/ILikeShiny Cindi Williams

      I liked Viktor’s design until I saw the back. I’m going to declare myself fashion editor of “Clothing Trends” magazine and state that big exposed zippers are over and over. They are so over they need a new word for over.

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

         Over Supreme! Overoptime! Overissima. 

        I wish to cosign this comment.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          Adding my name as well.  I didn’t like them at the height of their popularity.  Who wants to see a zipper?

          The new word for “over” should be “exposed.”

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            I like them in VERY VERY RARE instances.  There are times when it’s a design element that makes sense.  None that we’ve seen the last few seasons have been those times!

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

         Over Supreme! Overoptime! Overissima. 

        I wish to cosign this comment.

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        Overlicious!!

    • Anonymous

      I agree Viktor’s was derivative, and I personally thought it was eh, so I’m glad it didn’t win. I didn’t think he ultimately made all that much of a deal over the “cheating” issue (he didn’t confront anybody over it, on stage or backstage) so I don’t really care that he complained. He was probably just annoyed because, as someone he can sew, he knows how remedial Anya’s skills are and what bullshit it is she’s doing here. And actually, I did think Viktor’s seemed fairly well-made. You can see the seams because of the fabric he used and the lighting, it has nothing to do with how well or poorly its sewn. Seams are seams. They either blend or they don’t. The back waistband did look wonky though, and I hate those horizontal darts in the front of the skirt.

      I don’t really know why Danielle’s green would look “horrible” against Nina’s skin at all. Many Latinas I know favor this shade of green above many others, actually. It’s certainly not like the yellow Anya picked. Looking at these photos, I can kind of see some of the details Danielle talked about being invisible due to the too-opaque fabric. Not sure it would have made a difference though, trousers and solid blouse still scream “office.” With a look like this she should have loaded up on the party styling, but she didn’t. I still think Danielle is a dark horse and we’ll be seeing her in the finals.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Not all Latina women have the same coloring — what looks lovely on the majority would not necessarily suit Nina.  And because of her lighter hair, the colors that are best for her are going to be slightly different.  This green has a bit too much yellow for Nina.  Even a shade or two difference would have been an improvement.

        • Anonymous

          Well, of course not all Latinas have the same coloring. My point was, this was not a shade that would never work in a million years, like Anya’s yellow. It’s not the absolute, most ideal green for Nina but I think it’s fine. To say it’s a “horrible” choice is, I think, a large overstatement. It should have somewhat of a yellow undertone because Nina’s skin is actually fairly “yellow.” This green would look far more natural on Nina than Blenley’s Emerald City Christmas green, which belongs on someone pale.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Sorry, bad choice of phrasing — it came off a bit rude, which I wasn’t intending.  I don’t think she can go that far to the blue side, either, but I think this is going to bring out too much of the yellow and make her look sallow.  Same reason that I can’t wear really vibrant pinks — I just turn into one giant pink blob because of the pink tones in my skin.

            • Anonymous

              No, no, I didn’t take it rude! Although I will admit I am passionate about color lol. And I agree – too much yellow and it’s not gonna be cute. Whick makes the claim of being willing to wear that chartreuse-adjacent Neoprene toilet dress even more laughable from Ms. No Bright Colors Except For Sparkly Gold Club Tops. Colors with an undertone that matches your skin’s undertone will flatter you, but like most things taken to an extreme it is usually just too much.

              Colors are also hard because, depending on the lighting, TV screen, computer screen, and personal range of differentiation it can look considerably different. In the end, I think it’s also important to note that I have never seen Nina in ANY green. Perhaps she wears it occasionally, but it’s definitely nothing I associate as being “Nina Garcia. “

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Maybe she just doesn’t like green.  I understand, as I feel that way about yellow — my mother used to make me wear yellow and it always had scratchy lace on it.  I swear I itch whenever I try to wear the color.

            • Anonymous

              No, no, I didn’t take it rude! Although I will admit I am passionate about color lol. And I agree – too much yellow and it’s not gonna be cute. Whick makes the claim of being willing to wear that chartreuse-adjacent Neoprene toilet dress even more laughable from Ms. No Bright Colors Except For Sparkly Gold Club Tops. Colors with an undertone that matches your skin’s undertone will flatter you, but like most things taken to an extreme it is usually just too much.

              Colors are also hard because, depending on the lighting, TV screen, computer screen, and personal range of differentiation it can look considerably different. In the end, I think it’s also important to note that I have never seen Nina in ANY green. Perhaps she wears it occasionally, but it’s definitely nothing I associate as being “Nina Garcia. “

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Sorry, bad choice of phrasing — it came off a bit rude, which I wasn’t intending.  I don’t think she can go that far to the blue side, either, but I think this is going to bring out too much of the yellow and make her look sallow.  Same reason that I can’t wear really vibrant pinks — I just turn into one giant pink blob because of the pink tones in my skin.

    • Anonymous

      Your comments on the fact that “day-to-evening” is a styling challenge, not a design challenge, is on the money.  I can’t remember whose design last season was being judged negatively, but either Michael Kors or Nina flattened the designer by saying something along the lines of “You want to make something day-to-evening? Add some jewelry!” But they continue to ask designers to do this.

      I can never even remember Danielle’s name. She is so quiet and so earnest and so beyond taking good advice from Tim–I don’t understand why she’s here. Her blouse was nicely constructed, except for the collar, and the pants were OK, so I didn’t understand why she was in the bottom three. It was totally inappropriate for Nina, but there were other designs that were totally inappropriate for Nina and much uglier–Ozark Barbie and Bryce, I’m talking to you!–and deserved to be in the Aufable category.

      Viktor’s dress was pretty, and the shoulder caps were nice. But it was totally LBD, which has gotten other PR contestants (notably my beloved Chris March) slammed to the ground. And the back zipper should have been covered.

      • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

        Ozark Barbie!!  Hilarious!

    • Anonymous

      Lovely seams, Viktor! Look at the last picture of him & his model. The dress reminds me of the Sorting Hat from the first Harry Potter movie.

    • Anonymous

      I did not like Viktors outfit at all.  All of the seams made it look like a patchwork quilt to me.  I loved the green color of Danielle’s top and the details on the front but the rest of the outfit was boring.

    • Anonymous

      I can’t agree that Danielle’s look was better than Viktor’s.   Although derivitive of Mouret, that little black number is something I could actually picture someone in fashion wearing.  Although I HATE the zipper.  Enough already!   Danielle’s is just bland. Very bland.  This looks like something made for running weekend errands; not day to evening during the workweek. 

    • Anonymous

      Viktor’s look referenced a Victoria Beckman reference of a Roland Mouret. The best part about it is the bell shaped skirt, and Nina designed that. No wonder she liked it. And poor Viktor. I can hardly blame him for being mad, I bet nobody has ever helped him.

      PS Viktor I am positively positive that the judges know what goes on in the workroom. So don’t fret pet, the praising of Anya’s skills is all about getting a reaction out of the other contestants.

      I was suprised that Danielle’s was in the bottom, there was a far worse look. Wasn’t the top sheerer to start with , and she lined it or something to suit Nina. That was a mistake. Sheer would have been better. But the collar is still wonky. The pants look mumsy. Longer would have been better. Still passable.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, the length of those pants is bothering me. If you’re going to do an ankle-length pant, you damn well better put some boots on your model. (See: Mila from season 7. She loves her some flood pants, but she gets away with it because she always wears boots with them) Or make them really skinny. Then a heel will work.

      • Anonymous

        that is so true about victoria, and she would look great in this dress because of her long neck and short sassy haircut.  also she could wear that wide angle skirt because she has no hips of her own.

    • http://onebluetree.blogspot.com/ Sara L.

      Well, I like the blouse, a lot, but I can see the complaints. On the other hand, that horizontal seam on the LBD looks ridiculous. The shoulder treatment is neat, but other than that, yuck. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KCDEX4FOTCFHZP6WLKSOOKUVM Danielle

      Oh Viktor, no woman wants a cooter seam.

    • Marie Drucker

      Crictor may have just been trying to protect his privates from Nina.

    • Valerie Owens

      who else thought that victor’s entry was hiddy? I’d rather wear a sack.

      • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

        I didn’t think it was awful, but I felt that the neck sat at a weird place and made the model (who has a long, gorgeous neck) look like she had very little neck at all. I can’t imagine in being any more flattering on someone petite like Nina.
        Also, I hate the crotch seam.

    • Valerie Owens

      who else thought that victor’s entry was hiddy? I’d rather wear a sack.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor, I have that seam in everything I wear. It’s called my c-section scar and prefer to wear it on the inside of my garments! Other than that, the dress/separates was fine, but not special.

    • Anonymous

      Viktor, I have that seam in everything I wear. It’s called my c-section scar and prefer to wear it on the inside of my garments! Other than that, the dress/separates was fine, but not special.

    • http://profiles.google.com/gillianholroyd gillian holroyd

      The worst part about Viktor’s dress was that it made the model look like she had no neck.

    • http://profiles.google.com/gillianholroyd gillian holroyd

      The worst part about Viktor’s dress was that it made the model look like she had no neck.

      • Anonymous

        That was absolutely my reaction – the neck and shoulder treatment combined make her look as if she is hunching up her shoulders – not a graceful cut at all.

      • Anonymous

        That was absolutely my reaction – the neck and shoulder treatment combined make her look as if she is hunching up her shoulders – not a graceful cut at all.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe that’s why his model looked so pissed. The no-neck-glare.

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        Charles Grey, he’s okay!

        (Okay, I am old.)

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        Charles Grey, he’s okay!

        (Okay, I am old.)

    • Anonymous

      Viktor’s dress was totally a bad Roland Mouret knockoff. I can’t believe they didn’t call him on it!

    • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

      It’s about making a garment that CAN be styled for either day or evening.  Most things can’t.  Actually transitioning it from day to evening is about the styling, but you have to first design something to style. 

      Hated Victor’s.  It looks cheap and poorly made.  I’m not sure what fabric he used, but I hate it. 

      Also hate Danielle’s because it’s boring.  It’s a perfectly nice outfit, but not something I’d ever pay a designer price point for. 

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        Victor’s is probably black crepe, but it sure the hell looked like black poly doubleknit.  (On second thought, he might not have been able to afford much yardage of black wool crepe.  Hmm.

        • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

           I definitely got a poly knit feel from it, too, just because of the way the lights played on it, giving it a matte shine with an interwoven, but stiff texture. All I know is that I looked at it and I felt that it looked cheap, and I remember working with fabric like that on many occasions. Occasions which I do not wish to revisit because I hate polyester blends with a fury.
          We may never know for sure, unless we get really, really high res photos over which to speculate.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Usually black crepe has a better look to it.  I’m not the world’s greatest expert on fabric, so I can’t explain it other than it’s just better.  It looks like it would feel nicer. 

            And I had the same thought about the stiffness.

        • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

           I definitely got a poly knit feel from it, too, just because of the way the lights played on it, giving it a matte shine with an interwoven, but stiff texture. All I know is that I looked at it and I felt that it looked cheap, and I remember working with fabric like that on many occasions. Occasions which I do not wish to revisit because I hate polyester blends with a fury.
          We may never know for sure, unless we get really, really high res photos over which to speculate.

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        Victor’s is probably black crepe, but it sure the hell looked like black poly doubleknit.  (On second thought, he might not have been able to afford much yardage of black wool crepe.  Hmm.

    • Anonymous

      One of my pet peeves ( the others WERE black hose with white skirts and slips showing thru slits, but since no one wears hose or slips any longer . . .) is the collar that wants to stand up but can’t muster the energy!  You would think design would include knowing what type of fabric will do what you intend it to do . . . .

      • Anonymous

        Shoot…a piece of interfacing could have fixed that…

        • Anonymous

          Exactly!  And fusible wouldn’t have taken but a minute!  I would hope you’d think to buy some if you were working with sheer fabric.

    • Anonymous

      When I was a child, I had these little plastic dolls that came with a wardrobe of little plastic snap-on dresses and accessories. You just snapped the “clothing” on to the dolls. I can’t remember what the hell they were called, but that’s what Viktor’s dress reminded me of. A stiff, plastic snap-on dress.

      • Toni Mitt

        Polly Pocket dolls, weren’t they?  My two kids had piles of them….

      • Toni Mitt

        Polly Pocket dolls, weren’t they?  My two kids had piles of them….

      • http://palimpsest.typepad.com/frogsandravens Rana

        It also reminded me too much of the dress Kim Kardashian was wearing the other week; styling the model to look like her didn’t help either.

      • http://palimpsest.typepad.com/frogsandravens Rana

        It also reminded me too much of the dress Kim Kardashian was wearing the other week; styling the model to look like her didn’t help either.

    • Andrea Alessi

      Immediately after watching this episode, I watched an episode of Chris Lilley’s “Angry Boys”. Danielle’s outfit is 100% Gran’s uniform. Even my non-perceptive-when-it-comes-to-fashion boyfriend noticed!

    • Anonymous

      As a Danielle fan, your assessment of Danielle’s challenge with this challenge is fair. And yes, she just may be too quiet and serious to be a reality star, but that’s just who she is. Horrors, I know, but it is only a TV show.

      Based on your points about Danielle’s color choice for Nina and Viktor’s design of a LBD, what MUST you be thinking about Barbie and Bert?

      • Anonymous

        i have a feeling danielle’s fangs will come out later.  and that can be a good thing- show a little spunk there, girl.  she may just be a little shy, but i’m sure that when the pressure’s on, she can hold her own with the best of the bitches.  that little remark about being in the wrong group i.e. not a winner was just a little preview.

    • Anonymous

      Danielle’s pants seem too sporty for a fashion editor to wear at the office.  The blouse appears to fit well and to have some interesting details, and maybe with dressier pants it could work for the office, but fussing with that collar would be an all-day distraction.  Viktor’s outfit is fine.  At least it’s stylish.  But Viktor is such a poop it’s hard to admire his work.

      • Anonymous

        You’re being kind. I believe I called him “a little shit” at one point.

        Viktor made a nice little dress, and I think it was smart of him to make it a two piece. I’ve liked most of what he’s done so far. Too bad he’s a punk. I want to like him, but he’s just so damn petty.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          I don’t like him, but I wonder if he’s been edited negatively too. ie, “I’m not bad I’m just edited that way”lol. I was pleasantly surprised that he didn’t say anything out loud to the judges about Anya being helped.  And I think designers helping other designers with finishing hems and sewing pieces already cut out is okay, but I’m sorry, blonde girl cutting and making that collar doesn’t sit right with me.

          • Anonymous

            wasn’t it gretchen (curse the name) who said “i’m not a bitch, i just play one on tv”?  now victor can say “i’m not a petty little shit, i just play one on tv.”

          • Anonymous

            Yes, I’m wondering the same thing about Viktor being negatively edited. I don’t know. There aren’t that many people I’ve actively disliked throughout PR’s run, and I’ve never felt ambivalent about disliking them. I mean, it’s pretty hard to like Wendy and Kenley, and impossible to like Ivy, because that girl was evil; so there’s no room for ambivalence in those cases.  But I feel ambivalent about not liking Viktor. He seems sort of hapless and annoyingly nerdy, like some of husband’s gaming friends, which leads me think maybe he’s not such a bad guy. But, man, he irritates me to no end.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          I don’t like him, but I wonder if he’s been edited negatively too. ie, “I’m not bad I’m just edited that way”lol. I was pleasantly surprised that he didn’t say anything out loud to the judges about Anya being helped.  And I think designers helping other designers with finishing hems and sewing pieces already cut out is okay, but I’m sorry, blonde girl cutting and making that collar doesn’t sit right with me.

      • Anonymous

        You’re being kind. I believe I called him “a little shit” at one point.

        Viktor made a nice little dress, and I think it was smart of him to make it a two piece. I’ve liked most of what he’s done so far. Too bad he’s a punk. I want to like him, but he’s just so damn petty.

    • http://aintbaroque.wordpress.com/ Ain’t Baroque

      TPS reports. Tee hee.

      • Anonymous

        what’s a TPS report?  (for those of us who are no longer in the work force)

        • Anonymous

          It’s a reference to the movie Office Space. The main character, Peter, has to turn in weekly TPS reports. One day he forgets, and his five different bosses harangue him about it at different times. It represents the totally useless effluvia of busywork that is so pervasive in today’s offices. 

    • http://aintbaroque.wordpress.com/ Ain’t Baroque

      TPS reports. Tee hee.

    • Toni Mitt

      The only thing I liked about Viktor’s dress was the sleeve/neckline treatment.  And what the heck is that horizontal seam right on the models tummy?  Not a great place to emphasize, honey.  Not even on a stick like your model is.   Ick. 

      Apparently Danielle has never heard of interfacing to give a fabric like chiffon some body and stiffness to hold a shape like a collar.  To me, this is almost a replica of the chiffon blouse she and what’s-her’name made for the stilt-walker, minus the sleeves pleats i the back.  Same tucking in the front…same odd sleeve length, especially.   I wore this blouse all through the 80s with my “power suits.”  Boring. 

      • Anonymous

        Why so difficult?

        Perhaps it’s because there is a notable lack of visionary and inspirational design ability in this cast.

        • Anonymous

          also because they’re afraid that nina will turn herself into a dragon and incinerate them if they don’t please her.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

            LOL!  Perhaps they did fear the Lacerting Latina Firethroat!
            bitchybitchybitchy

    • Anonymous

      I think this challenge would have made a lot more sense if the designers had been given the opportunity to present their looks styled for daytime, then styled for evening, complete with a quick hair and make-up transformation that a person can do on her own in the office bathroom. It’s one thing to say, “well, this could work for evening too” and another to actually have to show it.
      It’s true that it’s more a styling challenge than anything else, but I think it’s a good exercise for a budding designer to learn to think about how their clothing will actually work in a woman’s life.

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      I felt it was important to see the seams on Viktor’s dress because that was the only really interesting thing about it (though the waistband shot is pretty ugly, presumably due to having to adjust for an extra-thin model. I have liked Viktor’s work so far, derivative though it may be.
      I noticed Danielle the first show–isn’t she the one who said she should have won? The blouse is pretty sad, though. I especially hate the collar.  I wish it had turned out better–the idea isn’t even clear and the whole thing looks messy instead of interesting.

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      I felt it was important to see the seams on Viktor’s dress because that was the only really interesting thing about it (though the waistband shot is pretty ugly, presumably due to having to adjust for an extra-thin model. I have liked Viktor’s work so far, derivative though it may be.
      I noticed Danielle the first show–isn’t she the one who said she should have won? The blouse is pretty sad, though. I especially hate the collar.  I wish it had turned out better–the idea isn’t even clear and the whole thing looks messy instead of interesting.

      • Anonymous

        i wonder what happened with that collar?  it seems that danielle has excellent sewing and tailoring skills, so how could she let that happen?  it feels like it needs some interfacing in the collar, but that won’t solve the main problem, which is the way the neckline hangs open.  i’m not sure what’s causing that, or how it could be fixed.  it’s that gaping neck that really kills the look, making it look sloppy, as if she’s having a hot flash and trying to get some air on her chest area without just ripping her blouse off in the office.

      • Anonymous

        i wonder what happened with that collar?  it seems that danielle has excellent sewing and tailoring skills, so how could she let that happen?  it feels like it needs some interfacing in the collar, but that won’t solve the main problem, which is the way the neckline hangs open.  i’m not sure what’s causing that, or how it could be fixed.  it’s that gaping neck that really kills the look, making it look sloppy, as if she’s having a hot flash and trying to get some air on her chest area without just ripping her blouse off in the office.

      • Anonymous

        I think Danielle wasn’t pleased about having merely qualified to move on; I assume she thought she should have been in the top when she said it wasn’t “good enough”  I  agree on the blouse—it looks like nothing Nina would wear, the collar looks wilted although she probably never intended for it to be perkier since she seems to be the antithesis of perky. She’s a serious little gal!

      • Anonymous

        I think she said she wasn’t happy for not winning the challenge because she was really tough with herself. Or something like that. Well everybody was pretty happy to still be in the game but her.

      • Anonymous

        I think she said she wasn’t happy for not winning the challenge because she was really tough with herself. Or something like that. Well everybody was pretty happy to still be in the game but her.

    • Anonymous

      I’m surprised so many people liked Viktor’s dress. I thought it was pretty blah, and given how simple a concept the dress was, it should have been better done. Moreover, either Viktor has a model with an incredibly short neck (in which case he needs to take that into account when he designs for her, or his designs will all look gross) or he made a dress that made his model’s neck look incredibly short. Given how high those sleeves are resting on her arms, I’d say it’s at least partly the latter. And given that that’s the only thing interesting about the dress… yuck, generally.

    • Anonymous

      I’m surprised so many people liked Viktor’s dress. I thought it was pretty blah, and given how simple a concept the dress was, it should have been better done. Moreover, either Viktor has a model with an incredibly short neck (in which case he needs to take that into account when he designs for her, or his designs will all look gross) or he made a dress that made his model’s neck look incredibly short. Given how high those sleeves are resting on her arms, I’d say it’s at least partly the latter. And given that that’s the only thing interesting about the dress… yuck, generally.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q5FGRMBQVFFBMS53LVJ2FDICPU T

      how is it not cheating to have someone besides the designer (other designers) sew part of the garment?  anya had help sewing from one of the designers and another of the designers clued her to dye the mustard colored fabric.  she was given help even if they or she didn’t think they were doing anything untoward.  so it wasn’t all her work.  is that fair to the other designers who did do their own work?

      • http://www.tomandorenzo.com Tom and Lorenzo

        Because not a season of the show has gone by without some designers helping out other designers in the workroom. If it’s cheating, then it’s been going on since day one without any of the producers ever stepping in and stopping it.

        • Anonymous

          Plus, I’ve never been in a situation with a lot of creative people where helpful ideas weren’t tossed around. It’s part of the creative personality, I think. It’s what happens. And why wouldn’t someone offer some help if they were finished? Sheesh. If it was against the rules, some little bitch would’ve complained about it years ago and it would’ve been stopped. It makes me happy and like the show better when they help each other out.

          • Anonymous

            I totally agree.
            It shows good spirit.

          • Anonymous

            I may be wrong, but last week, didn’t Bert and Viktor comment that they finished their stiltwalker outfit early so… la la la… now they could relax?  I remember thinking sheesh, guys, why don’t you look around and see if anyone else needs help?!

        • http://twitter.com/Iris_awesome Iris Morrell

          In Tim Gunn’s book, he tells about how he was helping Austen Scarlett, who was having trouble with his sewing machine, and the producers called him out of the work area.  They told him bluntly that if he was going to help Austen with the sewing machine, it looked like favoritism, and they couldn’t have it.  It was difficult for Tim, who is such a sweetheart and so accustomed to helping students, to keep his hands out of the work, but he took the point.

          Clearly the producers have drawn a line, where if you can get your opponents to help you, you can use their assistance.  It’s very obvious that at times, designers go help others finish.  Remember Jay Sario’s wonderful garbage bag dress?  At least two other designers helped him finish that.  

          So, like T & Lo say, it’s a fact of life on PR.  Likeability always gives people an edge, and Anya comes across as much more likeable than Viktor.  She’s going to get more helping hands when she needs it.  But not from Tim Gunn.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Is it fair to the other designers who have presumably seen past seasons and know it’s been done all the time?  To those who CHOSE to help out?  For a lot of them, it comes down to the fact they don’t want somebody booted off for time issues, which don’t have a ton to do with design itself. 

        • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

          Furthermore, everybody seems to like Anya — otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered.  If Viktor were under time pressure?  Forget it.

        • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

          Furthermore, everybody seems to like Anya — otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered.  If Viktor were under time pressure?  Forget it.

      • Anonymous

        It’s only technically cheating if it breaks the rules/contract the contestants sign. Let’s not forget, this is a reality TV show competition, made for money. Its outcomes are not always fashion or fairness related. To the more ethical, theoretical end of it…Anya gives me hives, but I can still admit that it is, in the end, a DESIGN competition, not a sewing one. I do have more of a problem with her being told to make a jumpsuit and told to dye her fabric than any sewing help she had, because those are actual design decisions and not simple sewing operations. But ultimately, I think those concerns are baseless too, because Nina flat-out told many of them what to do, and they all did it. This was not one of those “filter your clients’ wishes through your own creative lens” type situations. Nobody fucked with The Nina. The show has had a history of people giving sewing help, on the international versions too, and it has never gotten anyone in trouble so it’s clearly not against the rules. And ultimately even concerns of “so-and-so TOLD her what to design” are hard to prove too, because you have to differentiate a subjective percentage of who contributed what. Better to leave it be, and anyone who needs legit design help will eventually be weeded out.

      • Anonymous

        It’s only technically cheating if it breaks the rules/contract the contestants sign. Let’s not forget, this is a reality TV show competition, made for money. Its outcomes are not always fashion or fairness related. To the more ethical, theoretical end of it…Anya gives me hives, but I can still admit that it is, in the end, a DESIGN competition, not a sewing one. I do have more of a problem with her being told to make a jumpsuit and told to dye her fabric than any sewing help she had, because those are actual design decisions and not simple sewing operations. But ultimately, I think those concerns are baseless too, because Nina flat-out told many of them what to do, and they all did it. This was not one of those “filter your clients’ wishes through your own creative lens” type situations. Nobody fucked with The Nina. The show has had a history of people giving sewing help, on the international versions too, and it has never gotten anyone in trouble so it’s clearly not against the rules. And ultimately even concerns of “so-and-so TOLD her what to design” are hard to prove too, because you have to differentiate a subjective percentage of who contributed what. Better to leave it be, and anyone who needs legit design help will eventually be weeded out.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q5FGRMBQVFFBMS53LVJ2FDICPU T

      how is it not cheating to have someone besides the designer (other designers) sew part of the garment?  anya had help sewing from one of the designers and another of the designers clued her to dye the mustard colored fabric.  she was given help even if they or she didn’t think they were doing anything untoward.  so it wasn’t all her work.  is that fair to the other designers who did do their own work?

    • Anonymous

      Victor’s model looks like she was told to walk to the end of the runway, and when she gets there she is going to punch someone in the face.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QK7O6OXEX3AYERJWQUXBSVCTY Candy Kane

        I noticed that too. Someone clearly owes that girl money.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QK7O6OXEX3AYERJWQUXBSVCTY Candy Kane

        I noticed that too. Someone clearly owes that girl money.

      • Anonymous

        really, what is up with the models this season?  none of them look like they’re having a good time.  i don’t remember hearing anything in the intro about “the model associated with the winning designer will receive…”  didn’t they used to win $20k?  maybe that’s what they’re so pissed off about.  and why they all look so low rent.

        • Anonymous

          They still say the model wins $20,000, but so far, don’t see any of them actually deserving it.

      • muzan-e

        Which would’ve been a hell of a lot more entertaining than his dress was.

        Ka-ching!

      • muzan-e

        Which would’ve been a hell of a lot more entertaining than his dress was.

        Ka-ching!

    • Anonymous

      Victor’s model looks like she was told to walk to the end of the runway, and when she gets there she is going to punch someone in the face.

    • http://profiles.google.com/marteani Barbara Guttman

      Does anyone else think Viktor’s dress swallowed his model’s neck?  Between the tight little v-neck collar and the exaggerated shoulders, it looks as if her head is resting on the top of table.

    • Anonymous

      If I understood Viktor correctly, the top of his dress is a jacket. Whatever was underneath must have been problematic, because they didn’t show it. Or did I misunderstand (maybe the point was simply that it’s a top & skirt, not a dress)?

      To me, Danielle’s sketch looked like a structured jacket. She complained that the fabric she bought wasn’t sheer enough, but it seemed that was the very opposite of her problem: it was too sheer and limp to turn it into what the sketch seemed to indicate.

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        At the beginning she said something about deconstructing the jacket and demonstrating the underlying structure, didn’t she?  If so, there should have been visible shoulder pads and shaping and so on.

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        At the beginning she said something about deconstructing the jacket and demonstrating the underlying structure, didn’t she?  If so, there should have been visible shoulder pads and shaping and so on.

      • Anonymous

        In her first consultation, Nina hated the jacket idea. She told Danielle to turn it into a blouse so that is why it didn’t match the sketch.

    • Anonymous

      “Clear message for future contestants: come down on the side of “evening” if you want to win a “day to evening” challenge.”

      Doesn’t that same a bit… obvious?  I mean, put it another way: would
      Nina rather risk looking a bit overdressed for work in a chic dress, or
      look under-dressed for a fabulous evening event in a functional but
      rather sad little blouse?  It just seems like a no-brainer to me. 

      But then, Danielle’s intention DID seem to be to make more dramatic
      blouse than what she ended up with.  And while I like the line of the
      shoulder on Victor’s dress, it’s so high it makes her look like she’s
      rather lacking a neck (and so I instantly think of Maggie the Cat’s
      infamous shriek “little no-necked monster!,” unfortunately).  Maybe a
      different neckline could have compensated? 

      Also re: Danielle, weren’t we saying the same things about Jillian this
      early on in the season (too serious, too boring, too monotone, etc)? 
      And then her sewing skills got her to the second half, and then she
      ended up stepping up her game and dishing out the drama with the best of
      ‘em.  I don’t think you can ever tell with the quiet-and-serious ones
      at first…

      -jesse

    • Anonymous

      “Clear message for future contestants: come down on the side of “evening” if you want to win a “day to evening” challenge.”

      Doesn’t that same a bit… obvious?  I mean, put it another way: would
      Nina rather risk looking a bit overdressed for work in a chic dress, or
      look under-dressed for a fabulous evening event in a functional but
      rather sad little blouse?  It just seems like a no-brainer to me. 

      But then, Danielle’s intention DID seem to be to make more dramatic
      blouse than what she ended up with.  And while I like the line of the
      shoulder on Victor’s dress, it’s so high it makes her look like she’s
      rather lacking a neck (and so I instantly think of Maggie the Cat’s
      infamous shriek “little no-necked monster!,” unfortunately).  Maybe a
      different neckline could have compensated? 

      Also re: Danielle, weren’t we saying the same things about Jillian this
      early on in the season (too serious, too boring, too monotone, etc)? 
      And then her sewing skills got her to the second half, and then she
      ended up stepping up her game and dishing out the drama with the best of
      ‘em.  I don’t think you can ever tell with the quiet-and-serious ones
      at first…

      -jesse

    • suzq

      I think in New York, in the fashion industry, Viktor’s outfit could have successfully bridged between work and evening.  Unfortunately, it was completely black, which Nina has said in the past, is not an editorialist’s best friend. 

      I agree that Danielle’s look was just too youthful.  And the point that you made the other day about Nina demanding some neckline interest was spot on.  Neither of these oufits had sufficient neckline interest.

    • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

      I hated the seamline over the belly of the LBD.  I also thought it was boring.   However, once the challenge expanded  – after everybody had committed to their choices —  to “a fashion spread in Marie Claire”, the LBD was doomed.  That matt black would not photograph well.  Which makes me happy because I was screaming at the screen “Not Viktor!  Not Viktor!”

      We had an array of sad and inappropriate colors this week — this blouse, the kelly green, the appalling mustard (which the contestant was smart enough to overdye).  How long has it been since kelly green was an acceptable fashion color?

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I don’t think any color is ever really OUT.  It may not be particularly trendy at the moment, like kelly green, but color is so dependent on individual coloring that I think you can go with anything that works on you. 

        • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

           I agree completely. It’s never fashionable to wear something unflattering, but looking well put together and confident never goes out of style!

          I wish I could do pastels. They’re my favorite, especially a light, buttery yellow. But I have light olive skin, so it’s definitely not a doable thing. :/

    • Anonymous

      I think those shoulders in Victor’s look make it seem like the model is wearing football pads. (Or maybe she’s just got her weapons stashed in there because she looks like she is ready to kill.) I love LBDs, but I think Victor’s is kind of boring and not especially flattering, though with some interesting accessories it could easily make a day to evening transition. I don’t think Danielle was participating in the same challenge as everyone else. Her entry doesn’t even come close. And that green shade is especially hideous.

    • Anonymous

      I think those shoulders in Victor’s look make it seem like the model is wearing football pads. (Or maybe she’s just got her weapons stashed in there because she looks like she is ready to kill.) I love LBDs, but I think Victor’s is kind of boring and not especially flattering, though with some interesting accessories it could easily make a day to evening transition. I don’t think Danielle was participating in the same challenge as everyone else. Her entry doesn’t even come close. And that green shade is especially hideous.

    • Anonymous

      I remember thinking the same thing about Viktor’s entry: what could be a bigger yawn in a New York design competition that a LBD?I don’t understand the praise for this standard, if well executed dress.  Plus Viktor himself is annoying as they come.  I predict he’ll make it within a few episodes of the end and then go down like the Hindenburg.

      Danielle’s looks better here than I remember on the screen.  It’s a better green than Blenley’s (downright hideous!) dress, but still doesn’t look like something Nina would wear to an event.  

      • Anonymous

        Imagine Viktor’s creation in a sublime eggplant color….I think that would have made a world of difference.

    • Anonymous

      I remember thinking the same thing about Viktor’s entry: what could be a bigger yawn in a New York design competition that a LBD?I don’t understand the praise for this standard, if well executed dress.  Plus Viktor himself is annoying as they come.  I predict he’ll make it within a few episodes of the end and then go down like the Hindenburg.

      Danielle’s looks better here than I remember on the screen.  It’s a better green than Blenley’s (downright hideous!) dress, but still doesn’t look like something Nina would wear to an event.  

    • Susan Crawford

      I see two people who didn’t use the PiperLime Accessories Wall thoughtfully. Shame!

    • Susan Crawford

      I see two people who didn’t use the PiperLime Accessories Wall thoughtfully. Shame!

    • Anonymous

      Don’t like anything about Victor’s at all. The fabric looks too heavy, the combination of panniers and shaped shoulders make it look nebulously dated, and the two piece nature and tiny neck make it look less LBD and more blouse in mourning.

      I guess it fits the challenge well enough but it should have been in the middle.

    • Anonymous

      TPS Reports – I LOVE you guys!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Viktor’s model is clearly angry because someone stole her baby… by doing a C-section through her dress!

    • Anonymous

      Viktor’s model is clearly angry because someone stole her baby… by doing a C-section through her dress!

    • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

       I like Danielle… she seems smart and thoughtful, and genuinely invested in the challenges. I thought the look she made for the pet store challenge was just adorable, well made, and actually wearable. She did drop the ball on this challenge, which is sad, because she’s shown great skills in the past. I think if she had done the billowing sleeve that she’d done for the stilts challenge, it could have elevated the look at least a little out of the office.
      She’s low drama right now, but I bet she’ll get fired up over some misplaced muslin and unleash the fury. I’m still definitely Team Danielle. I know she has some tricks up her sleeve yet!

    • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

       I like Danielle… she seems smart and thoughtful, and genuinely invested in the challenges. I thought the look she made for the pet store challenge was just adorable, well made, and actually wearable. She did drop the ball on this challenge, which is sad, because she’s shown great skills in the past. I think if she had done the billowing sleeve that she’d done for the stilts challenge, it could have elevated the look at least a little out of the office.
      She’s low drama right now, but I bet she’ll get fired up over some misplaced muslin and unleash the fury. I’m still definitely Team Danielle. I know she has some tricks up her sleeve yet!

    • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

       I like Danielle… she seems smart and thoughtful, and genuinely invested in the challenges. I thought the look she made for the pet store challenge was just adorable, well made, and actually wearable. She did drop the ball on this challenge, which is sad, because she’s shown great skills in the past. I think if she had done the billowing sleeve that she’d done for the stilts challenge, it could have elevated the look at least a little out of the office.
      She’s low drama right now, but I bet she’ll get fired up over some misplaced muslin and unleash the fury. I’m still definitely Team Danielle. I know she has some tricks up her sleeve yet!

    • Mariah J

      Viktor’s doesn’t fit very well and I recognized the shoulders immediately. Overpraised.

    • http://www.facebook.com/raweiser Rachel Weiser

      See, I HATED Viktor’s outfit. The shoulders to me coupled with that high v-neck immediately erased his model’s neck and made her look like she was hunched over or could play linebacker for the Raiders. I suppose the severe ponytail and shittastic styling didn’t help his case either.

      So over McWhiney here. Someone put some pattern books under his bed, for the love of God!

      • http://twitter.com/Iris_awesome Iris Morrell

        Put the pattern books under his bed!  Stat!  

        Thanks for the smile, Rachel.

    • Janeen Traen

      I don’t think Danielle deserved to be in the bottom 3, even though her design is pretty bland. That horribly hemmed mini dress should have taken her place.

    • Anonymous

      I have a pet peeve this season: too many of the designers are having their models wear their hair draped in front over the clothes. it totally bugged me this episode b/c I couldn’t see the front of many of the tops. Reminds me of the way the tween girls wear their hair at my daughter’s middle school.

      As far as these two entries go: I liked Viktor’s pretty well, but it wasn’t special enough. Danielle is like The Silence from Doctor Who. I immediately forget anything about her the minute I look away.

    • Anonymous

      The thing I dislike the most about Viktor’s is the way the sleeves rode up and sat ATOP the shoulders whenever the model lifted her arms up at all. It was very unflattering, and made it look poorly designed.

      Agree with those saying she has no neck. Ha. I do think a big part of what adds to the fact is that his model really doesn’t look to have much of a neck. Gross. I don’t notice on the show but I have been noticing through your screencaps that these models really are busted. I guess good models don’t want to sit around for 18-hour shooting days for a pittance. Go figure.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1303837450 Lauren Dorsee Dillon

      So, TLo, what’s happening? Aahh, now, are you going to go ahead and have those TPS reports for us this afternoon? 

    • Anonymous

      I know it’s sheer and that all of her tops have been sheer and thus edgy, but I just can’t see any of Danielle’s tops as anything other than so so ancient. I guess I’m just not into chiffon.

      • Anonymous

        They look like any off-the-rack mall blouse to me, so far.

    • Anonymous

      I would have worn Viktor’s garment to the office (I’m a lawyer).  Of course, the polyester brown pants-suited ladies I work with often look me up and down, lips pursed, eyes squinty, so…

      I do agree it wasn’t well-made and it was derivative, but the concept was quite good.  Danielle’s was just dreary.

      • Anonymous

        I’m sad that the polyester ladies you work with don’t appreciate your chicness.

      • Anonymous

        I’m sad that the polyester ladies you work with don’t appreciate your chicness.

    • Anonymous

      I still can’t get over the amount of praise Viktor’s outfit got, and it’s not because I don’t like him.
      OK, I don’t like him. I rolled my eyes at the envious comment about the whole “getting help in the workroom is cheating !”. Don’t be a prat and admit you’re totally jealous and upset that no one offered you some help.
      But enough about the guy, let go to that heavy outfit. It’s sad, severe and surely unflattering on someone over a size 0. The shoulders are too square, very 80′s in my opinion, and the skirt is al bulky and the weird seams make it more unflattering.
      And he was so proud to have made separate. Ugh. Should have stick to a dress, it might have been better.

      Nothing to say about Danielle’s outfit. Nina had stars in her eyes when she litteraly asked for a sheer shirt. I think Nina totally digged last week team’s oufit. I think Nina is fed up with being a fashion editor and working for a woman who dies to become Anna Wintour and Knows she will never. I think Nina’s secret wish is to be a stilt walker looping around in sheer shirts and goofy pants.
      No ?

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        i dont like him either but, regardless, either way i wouldve thought his dress “just okay.” it’s decades down the canyon of re-interpreted style. i hate to bring her up so consistently but vivienne westwood was doing that hip thing almost thirty years ago. true, she modified it from many decades of, yes, panniers–but those panniers were centuries past & she would undoubtedly acknowledge her inspiration. from there you can travel yr virtual TripTik to, of course, the real mcqueen of mcqueen, & from there, you know, the sky-on-earth’s the limit. then you get to viktor. whose shoulder holders take a similar vacation, etc & ect.

        as for danielle, i actually like her outfit. it borders the inappropriate but in a quiet way, just as she, herself, has proven quiet since her indefensible outburst, first ep, about her being “just safe” being “not good enough.” i assume she’s happy enough about that now. during years of being espoused to a musician {Hair Band or no Hair Band}, i have been immersed in plenty of discussion of chops vs feel. danielle has sewing chops, no doubt about it. it’s her feel that remains amiss–& it will probably stay that way. cant learn feel. she’d be a great in-house designer for an upscale department store, if a bit more nordstrom than barneys.

        • Anonymous

          But Vivienne Westwood can easily get away with being redundant in a signature design, as a lot of renowned designers.
          And as much as I hate the whole “don’t do rippoff ! be innovative” crap, his outfit didn’t seem fresh nor flattering. Good for him if it did please the judges and fulfill the requirements of the challenge, but I still don’t think it was a contender for the win, even for the top three.

          And, come on, don’t you smile thinking about Nina’s dirty little secret ? stomping around her garden in stilts ? Flapping kimono’s sheer sleeves around ? Having fun so high in the sky ?
          No ? OK, my bad.

    • bethannstamps

      is anyone else over the exposed zippers as i am? done to death by now imo. green pea blouse, ok for an office minon in the back room, no one else. LBD ok, cept for dang zipper

      • Anonymous

        I think everyone except designers on PR are over exposed zippers. I can’t think of a faster way to cheapen a look than an exposed metal zipper.

    • bethannstamps

      is anyone else over the exposed zippers as i am? done to death by now imo. green pea blouse, ok for an office minon in the back room, no one else. LBD ok, cept for dang zipper

    • Anonymous

      I liked Viktor’s a lot on TV, less so in these closeups.  I was so enjoying the shoulder treatment and the nice curve of the skirt that I obviously missed the cooch seaming.  What is that weird seam about?  I thought maybe he was covering a mistake, but he repeated it on the back.  It just looks weird.  I still like the look, it’s just not as polished as I first thought.  And accessorize, honey!

      Danielle…gets on my nerves, and makes sad old lady clothes.  I think the fact that she can sew well has kept her in thus far.

    • Anonymous

      I liked Viktor’s a lot on TV, less so in these closeups.  I was so enjoying the shoulder treatment and the nice curve of the skirt that I obviously missed the cooch seaming.  What is that weird seam about?  I thought maybe he was covering a mistake, but he repeated it on the back.  It just looks weird.  I still like the look, it’s just not as polished as I first thought.  And accessorize, honey!

      Danielle…gets on my nerves, and makes sad old lady clothes.  I think the fact that she can sew well has kept her in thus far.

    • http://twitter.com/MandySCG MandyJane

      I’d appreciate Victor a lot more if he was more openly bitchy! (does that make me a horrible person? lol) I mean, if you’re going to accuse someone of cheating, you should at least have the balls to say it to the person’s face… this is all besides the fact that his designs haven’t impressed me much, and I don’t see him lasting to the end.

      Danielle made a nice outfit for a regular person working in an office. She deserved to be in the bottom, but I thought the criticism was a bit harsh and nonconstructive.

    • http://twitter.com/MandySCG MandyJane

      I’d appreciate Victor a lot more if he was more openly bitchy! (does that make me a horrible person? lol) I mean, if you’re going to accuse someone of cheating, you should at least have the balls to say it to the person’s face… this is all besides the fact that his designs haven’t impressed me much, and I don’t see him lasting to the end.

      Danielle made a nice outfit for a regular person working in an office. She deserved to be in the bottom, but I thought the criticism was a bit harsh and nonconstructive.

    • http://twitter.com/Iris_awesome Iris Morrell

      If Viktor had made that dress in taupe or another tasteful neutral, perhaps it would have won.  I agree about those seams… the horizontal seam on the skirt bemused me.  I do like the structure of the shoulders, but even I, a relative ignoramus, can recognize that it’s Mouretesque.  I wish I could afford to dress in Mouret, sighsigh.

      As for Danielle’s:  I’m surprised she didn’t get any praise for how marketable that look would have been.  Last season we were constantly having to hear about how damn salable Gretchen’s sad clothes were.  I think women who work in offices (which is practically everyone) are always wanting good but not totally boring shirts and pants, and Danielle’s look is something that a lot of people would wear (if that collar were tidied up).  

      • Anonymous

        Yes, but the client in this case was NINA, hardly your average office drone.  She’d need fabulous office clothes that, with some bling, could go to a uber critical evening fashion function. 

        • http://twitter.com/Iris_awesome Iris Morrell

          You’re completely right, but we were always hearing Nina Garcia yammering about how important Gretchen’s marketability was.  

          I’m always wanting these judges to be consistent in their criteria, but that’s foolish of me.  Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1657226490 Linda Swiontek

      I really thought that between the emphasis on the shoulders and the very shallow V-neck, that Viktor’s dress made the model’s neck look 2 inches long. If the point is to emphasize the face, it didn’t work for me.

    • Anonymous

      I hated both of these looks.  That green blouse is just so…green.  The collar is sad, and you can’t really see all the fancy seaming that she kept going on about.  It manages to look both too bright and dreary/sad.  But I thought the pants were pretty great.

      Vicktor’s dress looked too stiff, like it’s made out of the same kind of neoprene that wetsuits are made of.  I don’t get the odd cross-seams.  And those bizarre sleeves are just hideous.  Maybe this woman is going to stop off for a quick game of football before heading out to that cocktail party.

      Yeah, these were both bad.

    • Anonymous

      The styling this season has been pretty awful overall so far. Step it up, people! Just because you yourself don’t wear a lot (or any) jewelry or makeup or interesting hair styles doesn’t mean the style of your model should be boring at best, bad at worst.

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t like either of these. Viktor’s looks boring and harsh and Danielle’s looked boring and limp. And I also wondered why they didn’t use any accessories. 

    • Anonymous

      Seeing Victor’s design in still shots has made me like it even less than when it was originally shown. It’s too derivative and referential and not Nina at all. I could not seeing her wearing this look no matter how much it was styled for eveningwear. And seeing that hideous surgical scar across the skirt seals the deal.

      I actually wondered if Victor aired his complaints against Anya to production and they addressed the non-issue (but it never made it to the actual episode)?

    • Anonymous

      Something about those shoulder things on Viktor’s dress reminded me of toaster covers. 

    • Anonymous

      Totally agree! A couple of gold necklaces, a bangle, some better shoes, and a clutch might have dressed up Danielle’s entry.

      Don’t get me started on Viktor’s seams. I thought I was in the Bizarro universe. Usually the judges can see things that I can’t see on my TV. Quite a switch for me to be all, “WHAT ABOUT THOSE WEIRD LINES” and the judges completely ignoring them as if it’s perfectly normal to have Event Horizons across one’s hips and boobs.

      This season is shaping up to be another “the judges are on crack” season.

    • Anonymous

      While I am not really a fan of Danielle’s look, a nod to the evening portion of the challenge would have been to make a killer-bee fabulous camisole for her model to wear under the green top.  By unbuttoning the top so it served as a light jacket while exposing the cami and adding some jewelry the wearer would have at least been able to go to happy hour in a somewhat happier evening style. 

    • BuffaloBarbara

      I couldn’t stand the little fake shoulders on Viktor’s.  And I’m so over exposed zippers. They’re ugly.  Make them go away!

      That said, while I thought it was a little fussy for the office, I’ve seen people wear things that are that fussy, so that didn’t bug me too much.  The deliberately exaggerated hips, though–what ever  happened to “No woman wants something that makes her hips look bigger?”  Oh, well.  At least I learned the right word in TLounge. Panniers.  Which may be great worn to Marie Antoinette levels, but aren’t deployed to any great effect on lesser skirts.

      You’re right that Danielle’s looked more like an editorial assistant.  A stylish little EA, but definitely assistant-wear.  Comfortable enough to hunker down and start in on the slush-pile, though the tucked in shirt, already coming out on the model, would have to be re-adjusted all day.  Still, I like it.

      I don’t get the whole day-to-evening thing.  I’ve seen a few of these transitions on Style, and you have to carry so much crap that you might as well just toss in an extra dress while you’re at it–and most of the “after” shots don’t look all that “evening” to me.  How about designing an evening look out of materials that don’t need ironing, which can be folded up small enough to fit in a briefcase and still look reasonably good when it comes out?

    • BuffaloBarbara

      I couldn’t stand the little fake shoulders on Viktor’s.  And I’m so over exposed zippers. They’re ugly.  Make them go away!

      That said, while I thought it was a little fussy for the office, I’ve seen people wear things that are that fussy, so that didn’t bug me too much.  The deliberately exaggerated hips, though–what ever  happened to “No woman wants something that makes her hips look bigger?”  Oh, well.  At least I learned the right word in TLounge. Panniers.  Which may be great worn to Marie Antoinette levels, but aren’t deployed to any great effect on lesser skirts.

      You’re right that Danielle’s looked more like an editorial assistant.  A stylish little EA, but definitely assistant-wear.  Comfortable enough to hunker down and start in on the slush-pile, though the tucked in shirt, already coming out on the model, would have to be re-adjusted all day.  Still, I like it.

      I don’t get the whole day-to-evening thing.  I’ve seen a few of these transitions on Style, and you have to carry so much crap that you might as well just toss in an extra dress while you’re at it–and most of the “after” shots don’t look all that “evening” to me.  How about designing an evening look out of materials that don’t need ironing, which can be folded up small enough to fit in a briefcase and still look reasonably good when it comes out?

      • Anonymous

        During different times of the year I’ll sometimes have a wardrobe item hanging in my office (and you’ll notice many women do) for just what you suggest — a change of outfit to go directly from work to something likely to come up but not necessarily scheduled. Instead of hauling around a boatload of crap and all kinds of nonsense. It’s just easier to have on hand, say, an appropriate dress for a work-related but holiday-season after hours gathering or, during another monthy, maybe a pressed white button-down shirt and sharp jacket to change in to for a last-minute assignment on Capitol Hill.

    • Anonymous

      Oh no, I’ve fallen off the T Lo style train! I loved Viktor’s little black dress and I even liked the styling. I’d probably have given it the win. 

      I hated Danielle’s and didn’t think there was anything young, fresh, or interesting about it. That color of green was both too bright and too flat at the same time, I didn’t see any design in either piece and that blouse looked it had been fished out of the bottom of the laundry hamper.  it wouldn’t have looked good on anyone, including Nina’s assistant. 

    • Anonymous

      For a LBD – I thought Bart’s was very nice (have to see the close ups)  My issues with Viktor’s this time -that ouffy  seam (oye the waistband) and that v neck is too short. 

      I also wonder whether Laura could have maybe been in the top.

    • Anonymous

      I couldn’t believe they ignored those weird seams a few inches down from the waist on Viktor’s dress.  Or that exposed zipper.  Honest to God, I have been sick of them for a couple of seasons now, and they’re still showing up!  What do we need to do to stop the madness?

    • Toto Maya

      Danielle’s was just boring. And is it just me, or has she done that same blouse more than once now? Can’t she do something else?

      Viktor’s dress looked a lot better on the runway than it did in these pictures. I couldn’t help thinking when I looked it it that it would be hard to sit down in, I felt like it would come apart at the (very obvious) seams.

    • Anonymous

      Nina is not an interesting challenge subject. Her fashio is too safe and she (OF ALL PEOPLE) treated the designers like dress makers.

    • Anonymous

      I think the “I loathe this outfit” look on the models’ faces makes the point for me.

    • Anonymous

      I was not particularly a fan of Viktor’s, though I didn’t hate it. I’m given to understand that it’s a suit (at least according to Joanna Coles), but it’s been done and done better. On top of that, it has an exposed zipper, which is unsophisticated and completely inappropriate for the look.

      Danielle’s blouse and pants combination this week was okay and probably should not have been in the bottom three (there was much worse out there). I like most of it (the collar, yet again, is a problem), as I’ve liked her previous work, but I am ready to be shown something else from her. Unfortunately, Nina did sort of ask for more of the same, which was a little irritating to me (to be honest, in general I didn’t care for Nina’s requests based on what the designers had already shown). All of that aside, it simply was not right for the task at hand.

      I was not so thrilled with this challenge. It really wasn’t any more interesting than “design for Heidi”* and, worse, was much too much the show being about the show (as it has increasingly become), but I may just be especially bitter because I’ve made the mistake of watching Seasons 1 and 2 recently.

      * Are we going to get a design for Michael challenge next season? I think I have a design idea…

    • Anonymous

      I hated Viktor’s and did not understand the praise the judges heaped on it endlessly. Those shoulder details look like big boxy shoulder-pads to me, not good, and I was falling asleep just looking at it. Boring, he better start designing real good real soon, I still think he should have been auf’d for that monstrosity he made the stilt walker wear. And one thing I caught was they called out those shoulder pads for being “current” not  “forward” All I could think of was they awarded Gretchen the win because her collection was “current” now they say to be “forward” not “current” how quickly they change their tune. Danielle’s looked matronly to me, like the colors, but again boring.

    • Anonymous

      Sorry, all I could think of when I saw that front seam on the skirt was “arrow to the vajayjay of doom!”

      • http://profiles.google.com/richixcore Richi Robilotto

        THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT. Also, the shoulders kind of erase the fact that the model has a neck.

    • Lies L.

      Viktor’s design was pretty, but boring.

      As for Danielle – I really like her. She seems nice, dedicated and serious… not reality tv material, maybe, but a good designer. This look wasn’t a winner, but I don’t think it deserved bottom three. I love the blouse.

    • Lies L.

      Viktor’s design was pretty, but boring.

      As for Danielle – I really like her. She seems nice, dedicated and serious… not reality tv material, maybe, but a good designer. This look wasn’t a winner, but I don’t think it deserved bottom three. I love the blouse.

    • http://twitter.com/FashionistaHP Mrs. Fashionista

      I loved Viktor’s dress until I realized it was a TOTAL Tom Ford knock off. 

      http://www.ladyglamourazzi.com/blog/style-stars/style-stars-julianne-moore-in-tom-ford-at-the-late-show/

      What is with this year’s designers’ lack of creativity? First, we had the Gucci knock off. http://www.celebitchy.com/154700/jennifer_lopez_in_gucci_at_the_met_gala_fabulous_or_phony/ Now this?

    • Anonymous

      I don’t understand the boners over that horrid black dress. It gave the model no neck, insane shoulders and a huge ass. And am I the *only* person that sees a grimacing face in the front with the breast eyes and pleat mouth? There is a FACE. A FACE. A GRIMACING FACE.

      Don’t even get me started on the sloppy looking back zipper.

      • http://twitter.com/pinup_ghoul Pinup Ghoul

        I didn’t notice that, but now it’s all I can see! Yes, it was sewn horribly and hangs off of Viktor’s beautiful model in a sad and lumpy way.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      i also think her pants were as good as kimberley’s pants. & she’s lucked out by having the most attractive model, particularly in a sea of models that are just not that great this season.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=49702581 Susan Bullard Mayer

      I hated those darts on Viktor’s skirt and top.  HATED.  Reminds me of Stargate: SG1 and Goa’ulds (if anyone can get that reference).

      I would wear Danielle’s blouse if it had a happy collar.  But then, I’m not a fashion editor.

      • Anonymous

        At least the Goa’ulds would have some sort of fabulous accessories on.

    • http://twitter.com/zbird17 Sheri Z

      It’s not just Roland Mouret…it’s 2007 Roland Mouret.

    • Anonymous

      Gotta disagree.  The little black suit would work in a creative office for day and if the skirt were longer, it would work for someone in a senior corporate position (who can do the “basics with an edge”).  I’m a lawyer around Nina’s age, and I would wear that to work (albeit with a longer skirt) in an instant.  Danielle’s top remided me of Anne Hathaway pre-makeover in Devil Wears Prada.  It’s not completely awful, it just has no style and definitely screams “I’m the intern.” The collar is sad and the closure is puckery.  It’s not Nina, at all.

    • http://twitter.com/onetimeko maybe more

      I really despise the fit and, more importantly, the proportion of Viktor’s outfit. Awful. I don’t know anyone who wants their LBD to give them a short neck, broad, boxy shoulders and moon hips. Not to mention pointy breasts and pelvis. Especially to the office!

    • Carley Papi

      Would anyone else care to discuss the horrifying disaster that is that neckline? It looks like she’s wearing a child’s shirt. It’s not terribly flattering on the stick-thin model, much less anyone with substantial curves or breasts. And, please, don’t even get me started no the shoulders. I hate it.