PR: Josh C and Olivier

Posted on August 30, 2011

Man, are you guys as talked-out on this episode as we are? It’s hard to believe we still have looks to discuss. We can’t say they’re all worth discussing, but never let it be said that we’re not thorough.

This was another look we thought the judges overpraised.




It’s true that the jeans have a somewhat modern boxy cut to them and that certainly provided some interest, since let’s face it, we’re talking about jeans and a t-shirt.

It’s the latter that has us scratching our heads over the praise it received. Sure, that neckline’s interesting…



But we seriously do not get the faux backpack straps. We can agree with the judges when they say they’re interesting, but that’s about as far as we’d go in terms of compliments. They’re not really all that attractive and we’re not at all sure why any gal would want the hassle of backpack straps without the backback.

And we realize some may disagree, but you can wrinkle up a dress like Viktor’s and it can have a deliberate, artful, unexpected quality to it. You can find wrinkled t-shirts out on the street pretty much anywhere in the world every single day. There’s nothing particularly interesting about a wrinkled t-shirt.


But kudos to Lady Sweater, because he came in at the last second, probably didn’t have a lot of input into the design, and performed like a champ. If they treated him like a seamstress, we doubt he minded. He was just happy to be back in the game.


Clothes for the depressed girl.



The top is just okay. A pleated denim top doesn’t sound like a lot of fun to wear. Interesting to note how similar it is to Bert’s top. Different neckline, but very similar horizontal pleating. That would have been an interesting thing to find out: who unveiled their design first in the work room?





But that skirt quite clearly and obviously ruins the look. You could pair that skirt with something else and it would be okay (never great, but okay), but it’s wrong for that top and wrong for a sneakers challenge. It’s an often-repeated fashion joke, but it’s totally sister-wife. Drab, sexless, and unappealing in just about every way.

We just don’t get Olivieirie. Why stubbornly insist on making something after the very person responsible for your fate – ostensibly, the person for whom you’re making it – tells you she doesn’t like it? It’s not like Heidi didn’t get to see some last-minute flourish or embellishment that totally transformed the item. It’s pretty much exactly the same skirt she tried on in the workroom and said she hated. Makes no sense to us. His aesthetic is exceedingly narrow and he appears to be completely incapable of moving an inch outside it. The clock is ticking, we think.

Although we did love him a little bit when he said he “fell down like a bitch” with a totally straight face.


We didn’t realize it until just now, but Viktor was the only one who made anything we liked – and it happens to be the one look we like the most. The collection’s cohesive, but most of the rest of it is way too drab for consideration.

[Photo Credit: Barbara Nitke/MyLifetime.com - Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

    • Anonymous

      Okay, perhaps I watch too many cop shows (no such thing), but the faux backpack straps read immediately to me as a shoulder holster. Like the model was a plainclothes detective who had slept in that shirt for three days and who likes to wear inappropriately shiny pants for her job.

      • Anonymous

        I thought that too. Like she was a guest cop on “The Killing.” But shiny pants might actually have made that show interesting, so never mind.

      • Anonymous

        Definitely shoulder holster. Took me back to my junior high years and The Man From U.N.C.L.E., which I still haven’t gotten over.

        • pacconci

          Yeah, give me some Illya Kuriakin any day!

          • Anonymous

            He was on the only lunchbox I ever loved. Also, my only blond crush ever. (David Bowie doesn’t count, that was never a crush. Merely a pure and intellectual admiration.)

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

            Ditto! I loooved David McCallum as Ilya Kuriakin!

          • Anonymous

            I’ve never outgrown my love for David McCallum. He’s the main reason I watch NCIS and is still the sexiest cast member on the show.

        • Anonymous

          Yum  – Illya in a black turtleneck with his blond hair shining…  When I was twelve, I climbed the silver maple tree in the back yard and carved his name in it about 15 feet up off the ground.   (Of course with six kids in the family, I spent a lot of time up in the tree.  It was the only place I could be alone!)

      • Anonymous

        Who wants to wear a faux shoulder holster?  Back pack straps never crossed my mind.

      • Anonymous

        Who wants to wear a faux shoulder holster?  Back pack straps never crossed my mind.

      • Anonymous

        Who wants to wear a faux shoulder holster?  Back pack straps never crossed my mind.

      • Anonymous

        but for the phrase “plainclothes detective who had slept in that shirt for three days and who likes to wear inappropriately shiny pants for her job” … we not only need a “Love” button… we need a “Get Tafadhali a TV Pilot!” button.

    • Toto Maya

      I hate the wrinkled shirt. Is it just me, or is there a hole in it? I don’t see how that’s attractive at all, or why anyone would want to pay for it.

      I thought Olivier’s turned out better than I was expecting. Not the best, but it wasn’t quite “prairie-woman” either.

      • Anonymous

        The skirt with the sneakers made me think of what you see women of certain Christian sects wearing because they’re not allowed to wear pants.

      • Anonymous

        The skirt with the sneakers made me think of what you see women of certain Christian sects wearing because they’re not allowed to wear pants.

      • Anonymous

        I think the skirt is not that bad- if it isn’t paired with sneakers! With sneakers its kind of horrible.

        • Anonymous

          Shoot me now with Lady Sweater’s gun holster, but I like Olivier’s skirt.

          It would be cute with brogues!Except that weird whatever is goin’ on under the skirt. Shorts?

          • http://twitter.com/asciident Melissa Della

            Thank you–I was starting to wonder if I was the only one who noticed the weird lines under the skirt!

      • Anonymous

        I see what you are talking about. It looks like it was hung incorrectly on a hanger and got a “nipple”.

    • Susan Crawford

      The power FINALLY came back on this afternoon, ans of course the first place I

      • Anonymous

        and just like that, power’s out again.
         

      • Anonymous

        and just like that, power’s out again.
         

    • Anonymous

      I will be so sad when Olivierierie goes. I was hoping for good things from him, but he hasn’t really shown much. He is just so frail and delicate, not made for reality TV at all. 

    • Vaniljekjeks

      Boring and frumpy clothes.  Blech! 

    • Anonymous

      What is the wierdness in Oliver’s skirt when the model is walking? Is she wearing boxer shorts under it?

      And I looked at Josh’s t shirt as some kind of posture-correcting device. Torture chamber wear, anyone?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000020870811 Joe Murphy

        Hey, people with clavicle fractures want to be fashionable, too!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          THAT”S where I’ve seen that before! My daughter had the same thing in white. It went with everything for about 6 weeks.

      • Anonymous

        I was wondering the exact same thing about the skirt. I think it must be shorts under there. Stiff shorts. Either that or it was an aborted attempt at making a hoop for the skirt.

      • Anonymous

        i think those black things look like tire tracks

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344922354 Eric Scheirer Stott

      The skirt is a nice simple folksy piece that moves nicely- but in no way is it fashion.

    • Anonymous

      Hey, wait a minute. I thought Olivier was Lady Sweater.
      Anyway, I didn’t get the over praise of the gun holster either.  Josh has kind of a”Mr. Bill” victimish quality that makes me dislike him.
      Olivier should have made a long tube skirt. If he had, I bet this team could have won the challenge out right. Or not.

      • MilaXX

        To be honest, most of that praise was coming from a model who wore elastic waist pants to sit as a judge, soooooo………

      • Deana Grenberg

        And not only was the shoulder holster silly, it’s played-out.  Haven’t designers been trotting semi-bondagey shoulder contraptions down the runway for seasons now?  Usually as a way to tart up some dull-as-dirt T-shirt.  There is NO ONE on this show that seems remotely interesting.  My young teen is just getting into the show and was watching Season One.  A totally different show.

        SixGables

      • Anonymous

        Lady Sweater likes to wear weird Cowl Sweaters, right?  The one who’s “waiting for the right girl to come along.”  I just snorted my ice water as I read Josh as Mr. Bill.   Love that.  I concur w/Long Tube Skirt versus Depressing Prairie Skirt.  Sheesh.  

      • Anonymous

        That sweater looks itchy as hell.

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      I’ll give props to Lady Sweater, if only because he invented a new clothing item—the holster dickey. It’s useless, uncomfortable, and makes me want to watch Law & Order.

      Olivier’s ’90s Amish bridesmaid gown. I grow weary of his designs. Calvin Klein, he is not.;

      • Anonymous

        Holster dickey….that is priceless (although anymore nothing makes me want to watch L&O.

    • Anonymous

      Not to beat a dead horse, but the look on the brown haired model is the the opposite of fierce. The blond isn’t much better. What is the story behind the lackluster models this year?

      • Anonymous

        Maybe they are depressed because the designers all suck so much.  It’s a theory anyway.  Is there any Big Prize for them this year? 

        • Anonymous

          I was wondering the same thing. As far as I can tell, everyone has the same models they started out with, which suggests they haven’t been given the opportunity to swap.

          • Anonymous

            I watched the UK version of Runway, called “Catwalk”. The winner of the challenge was able to switch models AND switch models for 2 other designers. That made things very interesting. Getting stiffed with a shitty model would really suck.

            • Anonymous

              Oooh… that sounds deliciously full of potential drama!

          • Anonymous

            I watched the UK version of Runway, called “Catwalk”. The winner of the challenge was able to switch models AND switch models for 2 other designers. That made things very interesting. Getting stiffed with a shitty model would really suck.

          • Anonymous

            I watched the UK version of Runway, called “Catwalk”. The winner of the challenge was able to switch models AND switch models for 2 other designers. That made things very interesting. Getting stiffed with a shitty model would really suck.

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        all sorts of things are wrong but one of the worst is the simple theyre either getting way too much makeup put on them or hardly any makeup put on them at all. changes every week but always goes from one end to the other w/ no stops in between.

    • Anonymous

      “we’re not at all sure why any gal would want the hassle of backpack straps without the backback.”
      Especially since, dressed like this, she probably *is* carrying a backpack!

      Olivier’s look was totally Eileen Fisher, to me.

    • Anonymous

      “we’re not at all sure why any gal would want the hassle of backpack straps without the backback.”
      Especially since, dressed like this, she probably *is* carrying a backpack!

      Olivier’s look was totally Eileen Fisher, to me.

      • Anonymous

        You’re insulting Eileen Fisher, here.

        (Hey, I have to defend. I’ve got a pair of EF pants that make my ass look awesome. Worth every freaking penny.)

      • Anonymous

        You’re insulting Eileen Fisher, here.

        (Hey, I have to defend. I’ve got a pair of EF pants that make my ass look awesome. Worth every freaking penny.)

    • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

      I still hate Viktor’s dress. Don’t like the other two much either. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

      I still hate Viktor’s dress. Don’t like the other two much either. 

    • Anonymous

      Olivah, Olivah,
      Nevah before has there been such a bore.
      Olivah, Olivah, 
      Won’t be a such bore when he learns what’s in store!
      There’s a great big slipp’ry runway that soars like an aeroplane
      That will throw him down and next thing you know he’ll be hearing “Auf wiedersehen!”

    • Anonymous

      Olivah, Olivah,
      Nevah before has there been such a bore.
      Olivah, Olivah, 
      Won’t be a such bore when he learns what’s in store!
      There’s a great big slipp’ry runway that soars like an aeroplane
      That will throw him down and next thing you know he’ll be hearing “Auf wiedersehen!”

      • Anonymous

        There once was precious lil spec
        Whose kneecap now is a wreck.
        He made sad grey clothes
        Not too bad, I suppose
        And a cock ring he wore round his neck.

        How has nobody commented on that, yet?!

      • Anonymous

        There once was precious lil spec
        Whose kneecap now is a wreck.
        He made sad grey clothes
        Not too bad, I suppose
        And a cock ring he wore round his neck.

        How has nobody commented on that, yet?!

      • Anonymous

        There once was precious lil spec
        Whose kneecap now is a wreck.
        He made sad grey clothes
        Not too bad, I suppose
        And a cock ring he wore round his neck.

        How has nobody commented on that, yet?!

        • pacconci

          A cock ring? I thought it was the first bangle bracelet his Mama ever gave him. Loved your limerick!

          • Anonymous

            I propose a limerick from Terpsichory for every episode!

            • Anonymous

              Be careful what you wish for… ;)

        • Anonymous

          I agree, a limerick for every episode!
          I thought it was a monocle.

      • Anonymous

        There once was precious lil spec
        Whose kneecap now is a wreck.
        He made sad grey clothes
        Not too bad, I suppose
        And a cock ring he wore round his neck.

        How has nobody commented on that, yet?!

      • Anonymous

        There once was precious lil spec
        Whose kneecap now is a wreck.
        He made sad grey clothes
        Not too bad, I suppose
        And a cock ring he wore round his neck.

        How has nobody commented on that, yet?!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R5AEYCZ4KHBGWIKJ2FCRD2D4WY Esme Cuckoo

      Olivier hate.  Boring with a fake-ass accent to be auf’ed next please.

    • Anonymous

      I can’t believe there is only one more elimination, and the rest of these folks are going to fashion week.  We’re there already, and nobody has really gotten any traction at all.

      • Anonymous

        What???? Seriously????? That can’t be—nothing has even been memorable this season.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, fashion week starts next week.  So if it’s like last year, all but one of this sad sack crew will be showing.  This whole season might just sputter out real quickly for those of us who can’t resist taking a peak before the runway shows air!

    • Anonymous

      The entire season is putting me to sleep. So far I haven’t seen a single stoke of anything close to design genius.  Then again, the challenges haven’t exactly lent themselves to showcasing real talent, have they?  This entire episode was the most pathetic (although the jerking around on stilts episode was just wacked). Too much contrived “Real World” drama and not enough design. 

      Oh, and making them race to determine the “team leader” – completly sexist and ageist. And then rewarding a “leader” who was more like a dictator and took credit for work he didn’t do? For shame.

    • MilaXX

      I under the sneakers somewhat limited the color palate, but why were most of the collections so drab? I don’t know about anyone else, but when I work out I want something other than black or gray to wear.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, but you see, this challenge wasn’t to make a workout outfit; it was to make an outfit you could wear to the gym, then wear to the office, then go to a luncheon in, and then wear to your wedding, without ever having to change your shoes.

        • MilaXX

          *snort*
          I guess I’m asking too much. The bit of color was the reason I liked Anya’s original design. I like stuff I can wear to the gym then wear running errands. Heidi’s entire is this same black/gray color palette & it’s boring.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Yep!  Except I like something I can wear to run errands, over my sports bras and sometimes running shorts and tank, with my sneakers (’cause I don’t like public showers and no one wants to see me post-workout till I’ve gone home:)  because I HATE having to get into workout wear — if I’m not in it when I leave the house, I’m probably not going to end up at the gym at all.

            There are plenty of loose, comfortable, (somewhat) stylish silhouettes and materials that can be worn over a tiny pair of shorts and a simple tank.  Why not do a a great kimono sleeved, slouchy romper?  Or a great cotton day dress that could be matched with flip-flops or sneakers?  Or a fabulous wrap top which I wear over tanks ALL the time?  Why all of these ugly and totally sneaker unfriendly silhouettes? 

            And I know the shoes weren’t the most vibrant of colors, but seriously?  Has no one in that whole damn bunch ever paired a neutral shoe with a color?  Ever?  I don’t think that you have to go THAT bland. (And this is from a woman who just went through hell to find a dress for a friend’s wedding since I couldn’t have black, white or brown –bridesmaids wore brown)

    • http://twitter.com/Littlegrr Mary Nau

      I thought Josh C’s outfit looked just right for the challenge and went perfectly with Viktor’s, as far a collection.

      • Anonymous

        I agree! I actually rather like the holster/backpack t-shirt.

    • Anonymous

      This season of PR stinks!  The judges are incomprehensible.  The challenges have been just plain stoopid.  Stilts? Track and Field Event?  for what?  This used to be a design show.  Olivier is a fake.  Anya is a snake.  Bert is a louse.  Joshua is a be-atch.  Notice that most of the models did not wear sneakers on the runway….huh?  Isn’t that the point of this silly, stoopid challenge?  Heidi is no designer.  Her product placement deals have no place here.  

    • Mariah J

      In the competition these two aren’t even worth remembering. They don’t show up on my radar at all. Totally boring and drab clothes is all they’ve produced.

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        Is that you Bert?

    • PostsYouCanDanceTo

      Andy wore gray shirts with shoulder harnesses in black leather quite a lot last season.

      That being said, I do like them,or at least I like the idea, in a dramatic, sci-fi, exaggerated seaming kinda way.

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: Clothes for the depressed girl.”

      Yeah, that dress (and Oliver) look like they’d be more comfortable curled up, reading Sylvia Plath with a pint of Ben & Jerry’s.

      Or you’d wear the dress if you were in a polygamist cult and wanted to look ‘edgy’.

      –GothamTomato

      • Anonymous

        My first thought was “edgy amish” – she just needs a little head covering.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCJEZMOV4VYMXC5WJALLZNYEB4 Mari Rose

      Between his attitude about changes to his design and the looks he gives others who refer to him in a less than flattering way (e.g. Heidi and Bert), I’m starting to get the impression that Oliver! is just a younger, quieter version of Bert. Maybe once he hits 30, Oliver! will start verbalizing his inner bitchy queen.

      • Anonymous

        I dunno–applying that exclamation point to Olivier seems to lend him far too much animation.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

        What…?  He was stubborn to Heidi’s advice, but he was sitting right next to Bert when he was talking about him, and all he did was pout for a few seconds… How did he get bitchy?  Even when he fell and other designers laughed at him, he didn’t bitch about them at all.  The boy is a lot of things, but he’s not bitchy.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

        What…?  He was stubborn to Heidi’s advice, but he was sitting right next to Bert when he was talking about him, and all he did was pout for a few seconds… How did he get bitchy?  Even when he fell and other designers laughed at him, he didn’t bitch about them at all.  The boy is a lot of things, but he’s not bitchy.

    • http://profiles.google.com/bratling2 Laura Davies

      I wanted a gun holster to be on those straps.  Either that or a cape–it’s the same design used for cape harnesses in Hollywood superhero costumes.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        After this episode, I don’t think anything to do with guns should be allowed in or around the workroom. On second thought…

    • Anonymous

      When I see that skirt I expect to see an extremely severe woman with grey hair in a tight bun who disapproves of everything.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Speaking of grey, it seems like we’ve seen a lot of it this season. And by “a lot”, I mean “way too much”.

    • Anonymous

      All these models have a case of the sads. 

    • Anonymous

      I’m ready to declare this FOR THE FIRST TIME ON PROJECT RUNWAY..it’s The Season of the Unfinished Neckline!  We’ve seen several from various designers already, and both of these necklines look really raggedy, too.  Finishing skills are what take it from home ec to fashion, darlings.

      Anyway, Precious Moments can whip up one of those skirts in my size and send it on over…for me to wear around the house.  It looks really comfortable, but it also looks like something I could have whipped up in an hour or two myself.  With no pattern and no measuring, just wrapping it around myself Ping-style.

      And as for Josh’s shirt–hubby and I both cried SHENANIGANS at the TV when they started praising this faux backpack/holster look.  Andy made a little shrug that did exactly the same thing, and they ripped him to shreds for it.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        I’d say I thought I was losing my mind when they were praising the holster, but I no longer kid myself that the judges mean what they say. Last week, someone here said that the judges have to go overboard with their praise of the highest scoring designs, even if the highest scores are only average (and I can absolutely believe that nothing here scored higher than a 3 on their scale of 1-5). I agree with that. For them to do otherwise would be admitting that the work on PR has gone downhill. What the hell happened to “don’t bore Nina”? More important, why isn’t Nina bored?

    • Judy_J

      *yawn*

    • Anonymous

      I thought armpit charcoal filter.

      • Anonymous

        Ok, THAT made me burst out laughing and scare the cat.

    • Sara__B

      Olivier’s pleated top appears to be a very short dress. (The hemline shows clearly when the model walks.) Perhaps the skirt had to go over it because it was too short for the model to wear alone.

      • Anonymous

        Is that was that was? I couldn’t figure out WHAT that was underneath the prairie skirt. Now that you’ve put forth your hypothesis, I’m even more confused by it. Such an odd look.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, that makes some sense! Perhaps he intended to ditch the long skirt but had to throw it out there anyway at the last minute.

    • Anonymous

      I actually liked Josh’s look.  But then I could go in my closet right now and pull something out very similar…

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      Why DID he keep that skirt? There are any number of ways he could have gone if he wanted to keep volume on the bottom. Genie pants. Culottes. All hideous, but at least they wouldn’t be the exact item Heidi hated. It’s not as if they were pressed for time or fabric.

    • Anonymous

      I was waiting for your comments on that jeans/faux backpack t-shirt outfit, because I sat there with my mouth hanging open when the judges were praising. I figured, man, I REALLY don’t have a clue. Glad to see that you guys also don’t get the faux backpack straps. I also agree completely that the wrinkled look works on Viktor’s dress, but on the t-shirt, it just looks like she pulled it out of the dirty laundry pile and threw it on.

    • sweetlilvoice

      The long skirt look is a popular look here in the Midwest among Pentecostal women. It’s completed with white tennis shoes and a ponytail or bun. Children are optional. 

    • Anonymous

      I love the faux-backpack straps (perhaps because they remind a bit of a shoulder holster). But yeah, otherwise unimpressed with that shirt. The neckline is interesting but would annoy me if I wore it; ditto the weird diagonal seam across the front. The wrinkles were presumably deliberate, but they didn’t look deliberate.

      Oliver showed complete lack of game, making zero changes to his skirt after Heidi expressed her distaste for it. Also, what is his model wearing under it? There’s a funny line across her thighs in the first picture of it, like she’s got a tight mini underneath it.

    • Anonymous

      OliviEr is really starting to annoy me. That pretentious phoney accent gets on my last nerve. Nobody picks up that strong of an accent after a couple of years — unless you moved there as a small child.
      I thought he had some serious design chops based on his portfolio, but he’s either incapable of dealing with the pressures of the show, or those few audition looks represent the only really good work he’s ever done, because what he’s shown so far is pretty underwhelming. Plus, he’s got a bit of stubborn little boy about him — witness his refusal to change that skirt. I bet he’s on Heidi’s sh*t list now.

    • Anonymous

      OliviEr is really starting to annoy me. That pretentious phoney accent gets on my last nerve. Nobody picks up that strong of an accent after a couple of years — unless you moved there as a small child.
      I thought he had some serious design chops based on his portfolio, but he’s either incapable of dealing with the pressures of the show, or those few audition looks represent the only really good work he’s ever done, because what he’s shown so far is pretty underwhelming. Plus, he’s got a bit of stubborn little boy about him — witness his refusal to change that skirt. I bet he’s on Heidi’s sh*t list now.

      • Helen C

        Born in Ohio.  Moved to California.  Later moved to Taiwan, and then went to England at 16.So no, his accent would be all over the place.  English classes in Asia are usually taught in British English.  

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/dLUE.9h6zdoHMLprP6AQrSQpKt0CZys-#e58b4 tom

      In short is the worst season ever?

      • Anonymous

        YES> YES YES YES YES.  The WORST.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Ooh, I dunno about that one. LA season still holds that (dis)honor for me. But the season’s not even half over yet! They have plenty of time to go further downhill!

          • Anonymous

            So far I think this season is worse than LA. That was the first time we’d had a boring season. They were trying some new stuff and it didn’t work out….that’s forgivable. But by this point in the series, it should be freaking obvious that the audience wants neither Real World-esque drama, nor hokey challenges that simultaneously confuse and constrain the designers into producing boring, craptastic rags.

            At least the LA season still seemed to acknowledge that the viewership were grownups. This season seems to be pandering to the Forever 21 crowd.

      • Anonymous

        Yes.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/dLUE.9h6zdoHMLprP6AQrSQpKt0CZys-#e58b4 tom

      In short is the worst season ever?

    • Anonymous

      “Clothes for the depressed girl.” LOL. 

      This is all boring. I can’t believe that, at this point in the season, there isn’t a single designer who stands out. I can’t really remember any individual pieces–well, except for Julie because her clothes were not dull and depressed. I’m not sure they were any good, but they were definitely different. Most of these people seem to be designing for Filene’s Basement.  

    • Anonymous

      “Clothes for the depressed girl.” LOL. 

      This is all boring. I can’t believe that, at this point in the season, there isn’t a single designer who stands out. I can’t really remember any individual pieces–well, except for Julie because her clothes were not dull and depressed. I’m not sure they were any good, but they were definitely different. Most of these people seem to be designing for Filene’s Basement.  

    • Ramon Villalba

      Was it just me or did anyone else hear Olivier bad mouth Heidi she told him she hated the skirt? 
      It was quick but I could have sworn he said something like: “I’ll prove her wrong… mumble… mumble… little bitch”

    • Ramon Villalba

      Was it just me or did anyone else hear Olivier bad mouth Heidi she told him she hated the skirt? 
      It was quick but I could have sworn he said something like: “I’ll prove her wrong… mumble… mumble… little bitch”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

        He said something like “I’ll prove her wrong, I’ll make it so she would love it on the runway”.  If he did bad-mouth Heidi, don’t you think they would put a subtitle there to create more drama?  Then when they paired the looks together, he decided not to change it because they all agreed the long skirt looked better with the top.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

      Regarding Olivier’s accent, his family moved to Taiwan when he was little, and he was there until he was 16.  International schools there (assuming he did go to an international school; these are very expensive) do not teach in American accents.  The accent-gate is pretty ridiculous to me.  I don’t get why people treat it like such a big deal (not so much here, but on FB and the Lifetime website).

      • Alina Badus

        I thought he grew up in Ohio… am I mis-remembering a previous episode? 

        • Anonymous

          Born in Ohio.  Moved to California.  Later moved to Taiwan, and then went to England at 16.

          • Anonymous

            That explains it, because I also thought he grew up in Ohio, which made no sense with the “Is it Asian? Is it British?” accent. Your explanation sorts it all out to exactly what it sounds like.

          • Helen C

            They really should let him actually explain his moving everywhere other than just plaster Ohio to him.  He’s getting hate for the stupidest things.  Maybe some people just need to hate something.  

            • Anonymous

              Jeez, get a grip!  Wondering whether and why someone is faking an accent does not equate to “hating”.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Not from you:)  (BTW, I have to tell you every time I see your screen name I picture Lilith Crane from Cheers on the episode where she has full hair and make-up done and looks amazing)  There have been people who have said how much they dislike him because “he’s faking it, so he must be a dick/douche/pretentious” though. 

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Not from you:)  (BTW, I have to tell you every time I see your screen name I picture Lilith Crane from Cheers on the episode where she has full hair and make-up done and looks amazing)  There have been people who have said how much they dislike him because “he’s faking it, so he must be a dick/douche/pretentious” though. 

            • Helen C

              I never said you were “hating”!  But if you go to any PR related sites, there are a lot of people repeating over and over that they “hate” Olivier for his accent and make all sorts of assumptions of him.  There are some right here in this comment section. 

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              It’s a silly reason to hate someone. I’m still not convinced that accent is real, but he’s a kid. That’s totally the kind of thing a kid would do. If you’re 30 years old and you’re still doing it, then you’re a douche.

              He seems to be as guileless as anyone can be. And how is it possible to hate someone who says he “fell like a little bitch”? He gained a boatload of points when I heard that.

            • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

              i think my exhusband stopped telling people he was born in vienna w/in, say, the last five years {if he’s stopped. i think he has}. he’s gonna be fifty in january. then again, he’s not a jerk. & he’s only a little crazy. sad life, i think, is what did it.

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

              Well, we also have Carrie Bradshaw correcting the French receptionist when he said “American?” by replying “New Yorker”.

              It’s always the suburb-grown girls. 

              And Olivier only mentioned London once or twice.  Other than speaking Italian with the Italian model and his confused accent, the boy hasn’t done anything like Ms. Bradshaw has been doing for the entire SATC TV and movies. 

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              Crap. I had a feeling I was going to insult someone, and yet, I had to go and say it anyway. My apologies.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              It’s a silly reason to hate someone. I’m still not convinced that accent is real, but he’s a kid. That’s totally the kind of thing a kid would do. If you’re 30 years old and you’re still doing it, then you’re a douche.

              He seems to be as guileless as anyone can be. And how is it possible to hate someone who says he “fell like a little bitch”? He gained a boatload of points when I heard that.

            • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

              It’s a silly reason to hate someone. I’m still not convinced that accent is real, but he’s a kid. That’s totally the kind of thing a kid would do. If you’re 30 years old and you’re still doing it, then you’re a douche.

              He seems to be as guileless as anyone can be. And how is it possible to hate someone who says he “fell like a little bitch”? He gained a boatload of points when I heard that.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with the point you made regarding the accent issue.  When I visited a school in in Failaise, the students in the English class all spoke with British accents, as did their teacher.   It would not have made sense for them to speak with American accents. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

      Regarding Olivier’s accent, his family moved to Taiwan when he was little, and he was there until he was 16.  International schools there (assuming he did go to an international school; these are very expensive) do not teach in American accents.  The accent-gate is pretty ridiculous to me.  I don’t get why people treat it like such a big deal (not so much here, but on FB and the Lifetime website).

    • Anonymous

      Oliv[i]er’s skirt screams Coldwater Creek to me.

      • Anonymous

        BWAHAHAHHAHA pair it with some of those timberland sandals and a “we’re camping in Lake Tahoe” backdrop!!!  Smile!

      • Now I am The Bee

         Wait a second–I shop at CC for my office wear!  Their stuff is WAY more fashionable than this fugly skirt!! 

    • Anonymous

      Oliv[i]er’s skirt screams Coldwater Creek to me.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      I’m talked out on this whole season! For the love of GOD give us something to hold on to!!

    • Anonymous

      Blah, blah and more blah.  I do like the pants Josh made – they seem well done and fit nicely.  The shirt, however, is a rag that has been at the bottom of a laundry basket for a month and looks like it actually smells.  I hate the shoulder holster/backpack detail though the shape of the neckline is nice in and of itself.  So half a fail for Josh, though he wasn’t in on the designing or fabric shopping so who can really fault him for the suckage of a shirt.  Olivier, however, is boring the shit out of me.  Frankly, the best thing he’s done in the last couple of challenges is fall on the ground pretty spectacularly.  His drab aesthetic is getting old and not listening to Heidi….well, he’s on the short list now.

      I agree with all the posters who comment there is no standout designer this season.  It’s really a question of who gets auf-ed instead of who wins.

    • Anonymous

      I’ve said it before but I’m not above repeating it.  Olivier’s color palate runs the gamut from beige to gray.  While he wasn’t solely responsible for these drab colors, you know he thought it was a fantastic idea.  And that skirt is hideous.

      I didn’t really like anything that anyone put out except Viktor’s jacket.  I think that dress is sad.  Not as sad as that skirt, mind you, but sad.  And that t-shirt is just wrong in so many ways.  So to my mind the only decent garment put at by any contestant this week was that jacket.

      I’m feeling like there isn’t much talent in this bunch.  I hope they prove me wrong.

    • Anonymous

      The BackPack Shirt made me sigh deeply.  The diagonal seam only makes it worse as it puckers right over her right nipple.  It looks just stupid.   The skirt – omg the skirt.  

      I hate this season so much.  They needed to bring back dogblankets.  She would have made something plaid and coat-like with a little cowboy boot motif on it.  At least it would not have made me filled with ennui.  

      I need a vodka.

    • Anonymous

      I think if Olivier had made fluid drapy pants instead of that dowdy skirt it might have been a better look.

      And TLo, thanks for saying what I was thinking about that t-shirt. Wrinkled and cheap looking. Ug-lee!

    • Anonymous

      Iwould just like to make a general comment about PR this season.  I have never seen such ugly models in my life.

      • Anonymous

        they suck pretty bad at modeling, too

    • Anonymous

      Lady Sweater’s thing reminded me of Mormon S&M underwear, like what you have to wear to make you sit up straight in the Tabernacle. 

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Is Mormon S&M underwear a real thing? ;-)

    • margaret meyers

      The clothes the designers turned out were hardly sportswear, let alone athletic wear.  No one wants to work with spandex or neoprene?  If they chose good fabrics, they wouldn’t have to do all this wrinkling and piecing and layering.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

        i don’t think they were allowed to use these fabrics.

        • Anonymous

          Right.  They were told to use the materials used in the New Balance shoes:  denim and suede.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            But they didn’t have to use ALL denim and suede, clearly — you could incorporate other things.  Though it wasn’t supposed to be just athletic wear, either.  Heidi said any casual look that went with the sneakers was fine.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            But they didn’t have to use ALL denim and suede, clearly — you could incorporate other things.  Though it wasn’t supposed to be just athletic wear, either.  Heidi said any casual look that went with the sneakers was fine.

    • http://profiles.google.com/gillianholroyd gillian holroyd

      I’m pretty sure I heard one of the judges refer to it as a shoulder holster.

      As for Oliver’s long skirt, I think if he’d changed it to ballet length, it might have worked although the bodice was very poorly fitted.

    • Anonymous

      This entire challenge was too drab for consideration.  Look, the producers need to get it out of their heads that you can make anything even remotely chic to go with sneakers.  It’s ridiculous.  I don’t care if New Balance is paying Heidi a gazillion bucks. 

      And, like others, those leather straps read “shoulder holster”, not “backpack”, to me.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Yeah — isn’t there some twist they could add to make this crap more interesting?  I understand all the product placement; Tim has defended it often by explaining that it’s the only way they can pay for the show, and I get that.  But active wear isn’t the most interesting thing on earth, and it’s rarely even mildly connected to anything remotely fashionable.  There’s got to be a way to make it more interesting, like: make an active wear look to match the sneakers, and then make a day look and a night look to coordinate.  I don’t know why one would ever need those three things to match but at least then we’d only have to look at one ugly outfit per team (well, ugly by definition of active wear — I’m sure plenty would come up with ugly things for the other categories as well)

    • http://profiles.google.com/rosatcollege Ros Clarke

      Well, to be fair to Olivier, ‘clothes for depressed women’ won Gretchen the show last year, so it may not be that bad as a tactic.

    • Anonymous

      My feeling is that Josh and Olivier’s looks got praised (or at least skated by) because these three looks came off as the most cohesive, collection-wise. 

    • Anonymous

      That last model looks like a blonde Casey Anthony

    • Anonymous

      Oliver’s prairie skirt belongs at a cult meeting.  I’m torn with this guy.  On the one hand, I would not be sad to see him go because he creeps me out and his outfits are increasingly boring.  On the other hand, he creeps me out and I want him to stay long enough for the “look it’s someone from your family/friend” challenge so I can get a glimpse at his real world.

      • Helen C

        He’s a typical early-20s gay/metrosexual boy in Asia, even his pale delicate look and his hair go with J-pop and K-pop Boy-Bands.    

    • Anonymous

      …Why is this season so BORING, dammit?! They are all terrible designers: not one look has been worth it so far :(

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, a bit blah, but promising ideas. I like the pleated top, and the skirt could work if it were shorter and a not so prison-matron gray. I kind of like the idea of the leather detail on the t-shirt, but with the asymmetrical neckline PLUS the diagonal seam PLUS the rumpled cotton, it is too many ideas at once. The jeans are nice enough though.

      Viktor’s is a good culmination of the ideas sprinkled through the other two designs. Also, I have a twisty/wrinkly gray jersey dress very much like Viktor’s that I got a Target a few years ago. I pair it with either a fitted moto-style dark denim jacket or a fitted black leather cropped jacket. I guess I just need some Heidi sneakers now.

    • Anonymous

      They got compliments for THAT????

    • Anonymous

      They got compliments for THAT????

    • Anonymous

      More than just the drabness and ugliness of Josh C’s, I just thought every single proportion was awfully and horribly wrong. His model looked about 3 feet tall, clumping down in runway in New Balance-clad tiny little stump legs. Just AWFUL. I thought this was the worst look, even worse than Anthony’s. At least Anthony’s had an idea behind it, and the top of his look may have been cute for a different challenge. Josh C couldn’t even make a decent pair of pants and a t-shirt. Auf.

    • Anonymous

      I admire you two for being able to talk about these outfits so coherently when they are both so instantly forgettable. 

    • Anonymous

      I admire you two for being able to talk about these outfits so coherently when they are both so instantly forgettable. 

    • Anonymous

      Although I like the backpack/gun holster shrug, cause it’s a little edgy in a cute tomboy kind-of-way, I really hate that t-shirt.  If I saw that schmata on a rack I would take it directly to a salesperson to be thrown out as a factory second.  Or third.

    • http://twitter.com/thedogsmother thedogsmother

      This challenge is drab and colorless again. Want to bet it will show up again next year?

      • Anonymous

        I’m betting as long as Heidi has the contract with New Balance.

    • http://twitter.com/thedogsmother thedogsmother

      This challenge is drab and colorless again. Want to bet it will show up again next year?

    • Anonymous

      I’ll concede that I may have overpraised the tee a bit myself, now that I look at it in stills.  BUT there is no way I will back down on that amazing holster/shrug.  If I were younger (and, okay, a woman), I would be rocking that right now.  LOVE.  Makes me rethink my initial position on Miss Mary Tyler Mormon.

    • http://twitter.com/LianaBrooks Liana Brooks

      The wrinkled shirt looks light and comfy, I’d wear it sans straps. The skirt and dress? No. Never.

      • Anonymous

        I often wear shits like that sans straps.  But I call them wrinkled old t-shirts that I can bum around the house in without worrying about getting them stained, I don’t try to pretend that they’re fashion.  Oliver’s look is very Real Housewives of The Church of Latter Day Saints, and no, I don’t mean that as a compliment.

        • Anonymous

          I must say, my misspelling of “shirts” was one of my most hilarious typos ever!  And perhaps fitting, since I was referring to wearing shitty old wrinkled t-shirts!

    • Anonymous

      When the guest judge Erin said she really liked the straps on the T-shirt because it looked like the model was wearing a backpack, AND YET WASN’T WEARING A BACKPACK, all I could think was that she must totally lose her shit when she sees one of those t-shirts that have a bow-tie and a tuxedo printed on them. Because you look like you’re in a tuxedo, but you’re not!

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        LOL… nothing to add, but love that idea:)

      • Anonymous

        …and she must REALLY love those black tees with the skeleton outline on them, since you can’t get any skinnier than a skeleton!  She seemed like quite the little twit, didn’t she?  What was with her duck face in EVERY screen shot???  Does she sleep like that?

        • Anonymous

          and don’t forget those t-shirts that have naked boobs on them, so it looks like you’re naked, but you’re not!

    • Anonymous

      I don’t care about (or for) any of these outfits, but I just want to say that if LOLivier comes out in a Hello Kitty t-shirt, it will make the entire PR season worthwhile for me. Seriously.

    • http://www.facebook.com/shawn.eric.hill Shawn Hill

      Olivier’s look is every outfit Gwyneth Paltrow has ever worn.

    • Anonymous

      This comment might show how much of a fashion newbie I am.

      I don’t understand how a long flowy skirt is conservative but a long flowy maxi dress is the height of fashion. I probably wouldn’t wear either because I would trip over all the fabric but I would prefer a skirt because it would give me definition at the waist and I could pair it with different tops. One thing I don’t like about maxi dresses is that they are usually one print or color from head to head, which always looks overwhelming to me.

      • http://twitter.com/Jennifer_deG Jennifer de Guzman

        The way the material is gathered at the waist is what makes it appear frumpy and, as Michael Kors pointed out, dirndl-ish. Long skirts that are form-fitting and cut on the bias or simply without a gathered waist have been popular this summer and they are not frumpy.

        One color or print from shoulders to toes can be elongating if the maxi dress is a good one. I’ve tried on some that make me decidedly pear-shaped.

        • Mary McClelland

          THat is what I was thinking his plan was when he described it to Viktor in the beginning, but then they went the gathered (elastic and geriatric) waist and it just screamed HIPS. HIPS HIPS on a person who ostensibly has none.  I agree with you it could have been stylish if it featured a flat waist, was form-fitting and stretchier, and cut on the bias.  It would have been v. late 90′s Ralph Lauren or Marc Jacobs then. Instead it was just home made looking, commune sewed from a McCall’s pattern circa 1984. Ew.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        It depends on your body, honestly.  I really have a hard time with anything long because I look stumpy.  The one maxi dress I have and love is a halter style neckline with the black outlining at the neck, straps, and waist seam.  The rest is a bright green with a black print. 

        If you’re particularly tiny, prints can be overwhelming for your frame.

      • Anonymous

        I have worn the long skirt — I can think of two that got all sorts of compliments — but (1) I’m tall and (2) I tend to wear them with a boot. One with a small slit up the front leg in particular got all kinds of appreciation. But now that I think of it, I don’t recall seeing anyone else in one. 

      • Anonymous

        i must be the only person in america who liked olivier not oh-live-vee-yay’s look.  i wear long skirts a lot, though never with sneakers since i’d trip just thinking about it.  usually i’m either barefoot, in sandals, or boots, occasionally ballet flats.  i also like it paired with the fitted denim top, the contrast of textures adds interest, but i agree that it looks uncomfortable.  there’s something i like about the fabric, it’s unexpected to see a long skirt made from what looks like a stretchy fabric and again i like the texture.  i hate the palette, but that seems to be a given to fit with the rest of heidi’s boring line.  and don’t forget they were saddled with the mandate to use heidi’s boring fabrics.

        on another subject, why does that first model always look like someone just slapped her?

    • Anonymous

      Maybe someone else already commented on this, but do you notice how many designers wore the color pink or pink touches to their own clothing for this judging session?  Coincidence? Or going back to the schoolyard clique vibe of this season, did one of the insiders whisper, “wear pink for judging, pass it on, but don’t tell those outsiders, they’re not cool like us…”  Gossip! 

    • Anonymous

      Maybe someone else already commented on this, but do you notice how many designers wore the color pink or pink touches to their own clothing for this judging session?  Coincidence? Or going back to the schoolyard clique vibe of this season, did one of the insiders whisper, “wear pink for judging, pass it on, but don’t tell those outsiders, they’re not cool like us…”  Gossip! 

    • Anonymous

      Viktor was my favorite contestant from the beginning. His mannerisms and one of the very first things he said on the show were hilarious! I’m happy for him! 

    • http://twitter.com/Jennifer_deG Jennifer de Guzman

      I have been seeing harnesses in editorials here and there for quite some time. They’re more popular in alternative fashion, such as here: http://hautemacabre.com/2011/03/flaunt-it/ (NSFW) and here: http://hautemacabre.com/2011/06/meta-morph/

      Usually they’re meant to accentuate the shoulders and collarbone, or, in the cases of those that strap under the bust, the breasts. I’d say this harness is unsuccessful because it doesn’t do anything for the model’s body.Am I correct in thinking that the fabulous Tom and Lorenzo don’t really stay current with alternative fashion?

      • Mary McClelland

        McQueen was doing them for about a decade.  They are a total rip off – pretty much everything Viktor designs is incredibly referential and these “harness straps” are absoluately no exception. Frankly, I’m surprised a fashion editor, and two models didn’t mention the harnesses being copied. 

    • Anonymous

      If they had slit that skirt halfway up and given it some pockets ….well they didnt

    • Now I am The Bee

      All these looks are just sad.  It makes me more sad because New Balance makes the only pair of running shows I can find that are comfortable.  Even more sad that NB is probably paying Heidi a bundle to design all their sad clothing in these ultra-sad colors, which led to this sad challenge.
      I has a sad. 

    • Anonymous

      This was my favorite collection. I loved everything except Oliver’s skirt, but I still love him. I can’t believe I’m actually praising something Josh made but I would totally wear that and I never say that about PR stuff.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7E2C6NMUHMIMXH2KWBOVYVIFCQ James

      Which is why I really hated this challenge so much. There aren’t much room for design given how the inspiration for the challenge is a pair of drab looking sneakers and the restraints a garment that fits the category of active wear. While Viktor’s was a finished look, it really was the jacket that made the difference. That dress, worn by itself, would look like something a woman stranded on a deserted island would wear. I hope PR comes up with more inspired challenges in the coming episodes or else we’ll continue to see the kind of boring outfits on the runway. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      the only outfit actually dowdy on the runway this episode was oliver’s, tho, to be fair, i think he meant it as avant-dowdy & i think he kind of succeeded.

      josh c’s isnt dowdy but it’s certainly not avant, it’s post-avant & in its post-avantness, passé. holsters & harnesses are fine but they need to do something, at least aesthetically, & the only thing this one is doing is making her shoulders look wider than they are while prompting the jaded onlooker to question whether the holsterharness is a separate item w/ a separate price tag or if it is, instead, built right into the t-shirt over the jeans that give the model a broad barnside behind.

    • Anonymous

      viktor’s reaaaaally growing on me. i think he stands as evidence that bert is the problem, not the people whom he terrorizes during group challenges. after he psychologically slaughtered viktor on the stilt challenge, everyone thought viktor was a scumbag but, not surprisingly, there have been no issues with him since.

      olivier on the other hand was okay at first and now i’m bored. next.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BC7QJMCQBTG5HNTKRGWOVOH4SY Kathryn

      Are they using makeup to give the models their undereye bags?  Way more than I’m used to seeing on PR.  Or is it that they are supposedly makeup-less so they don’t fix it?

    • Anonymous

      Everything is going to look frumpy when you have to pair it with sneakers unless it’s athletic wear, and the designers were told not to do athletic where. Victor’s was really the only one that worked since the dress was so casual.   Who was Heidi trying to kid by showing up in a sequined jumpsuit with sneakers.  The judges always say how you never want to show up on a worse dressed list, but she sure would showing up like that.  Sorry for the slightly off-topic vent, but I was so optimistic for this season and week after week I have been let down by the judges or the challenges.

    • Anonymous

      I notice Nike is using that same “backpack” shoulder motif for some of its U.S. Open women’s tennis outfits.  The “straps” seque into a T back.    

    • JM Z

      Josh C’s shirt would have been improved greatly by not wrinkling it and by making it slightly more form-fitting. Slightly. Curving it in at the waist a little bit. I do like the neckline, and the backpack straps are growing on me.

    • http://pinkpolarity.livejournal.com/ Polarity

      Am I the only one who actually likes the “sister wife” outfit? If it didn’t have that racer back, I’d buy it in a minute. The top is interesting and it looks really comfortable. I have blue hair, so my hair plus a necklace should make it more interesting. To me it’s something J Jill might carry. Which I guess would elicit groans of horror from people who think middle-aged women are the height of awful.