PR: Goodbye Kitty

Posted on August 26, 2011

Thank you, producers, for totally screwing up our tried-and-true format this week. Bitches. Bad enough it’s teams, but it’s also teams with two winners and an auf’ee that most people aren’t even talking about the next day.

She seemed so serious and focused early on, but with each passing challenge it was becoming increasingly obvious that she’d moved from the “Could Go Either Way” column to the “Runway Chaff” column. She would have needed a major triumph to keep her in the game much longer.

And let’s face it, major triumphs were not on the menu.

It made for an interesting debate among the judges. Nina came thisclose to admitting that she and Michael look at the whole of a designer’s output when making a decision about their fate, but Heidi acted shocked that they weren’t looking at each designer on a week-by-week basis. To her credit, she made an excellent point: “I thought that was the whole point to this show; ‘One day you’re in; the next day you’re out’.” Heidi’s gotten very good at arguing her case against the often unified front of Michael and Nina.

But Nina and Michael won, as they usually do. Anthony put out a garment that was easily as awful as this one, and arguably much worse. But he’d impressed them in the pet store challenge and the stilt challenge and Danielle had never done anything but bore them.

It was pretty much written in stone that she would go over Anthony. Nina and Michael argued that a designer who’s shown some potential should always be kept over a designer who repeatedly fails to do so.



How sad is that piece of crap? What was with the fascination with chiffon? As armchair reality TV psychologists, we’d hypothesize that she got herself into a little bit of a design hole. She kept fucking up chiffon, which only made her more determined to do it again and get it right. She was so far down that she couldn’t see what a ridiculous choice it was for the types of clothes they were doing.

 

We might be opening ourselves up to some criticism but we definitely agree with Nina and Michael’s cumulative judging philosophy. Anthony made something terrible, but he’s given us reason to believe he can do better going forward. Even if you don’t think this getup was as bad as Anthony’s, can you say that she’s shown an equal amount of promise? Heidi’s week-by-week approach has its merits, but it can also result in people making it far, far past the point where they should have been sent home. It can even wind up with one of the less talented designers in the final three. Both approaches have their merits and drawbacks and the show has always veered back and forth between them (quite often due to the producers, we suspect), but in latter seasons, the cumulative judging style has become more prominent and obvious. We wonder how much of Heidi’s surprise was genuine. After all, she lost the Mondo argument last year and she had to have wondered why.

In the end it doesn’t matter, because overriding all other concerns was one major factor that determined her auf.

 

The second we saw her in that Hello Kitty headband, we knew it was over.

 

 

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    • http://twitter.com/foodhussy foodhussy

      i can understand both sides but to me – his garment was soooooo horrible – it outweighed her weeks of boredom

      • http://twitter.com/foodhussy foodhussy

        love how michael said his was big and tight all at the same time – with camel toe – ew ew ew

        • http://twitter.com/londonpenguin Teresa MacDonald

          And camel butt.

        • http://twitter.com/londonpenguin Teresa MacDonald

          And camel butt.

        • http://twitter.com/londonpenguin Teresa MacDonald

          And camel butt.

        • Anonymous

          That certainly was one insane crotch.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

            I knew she was dead as soon as I saw her cutting that limp, opague, not-in-a-exercise-shoe-color fabric.

            Who wears chiffon with sneakers? Um, nobody.

            But then again, who wears stilts with chiffon? The judges’ praise of that giantess ’80s secretary wear was insane to begin with.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Brown/1350939326 Jude Brown

            I knew she was dead as soon as I saw her cutting that limp, opague, not-in-a-exercise-shoe-color fabric.

            Who wears chiffon with sneakers? Um, nobody.

            But then again, who wears stilts with chiffon? The judges’ praise of that giantess ’80s secretary wear was insane to begin with.

    • PostsYouCanDanceTo

      After the sturm und drang in that workroom, I don’t know if, were I in Danielle’s shoes, I’d be so sad to leave.

      • Anonymous

        Danielle certainly didn’t seem too sad.
        Which I don’t know if it was a “meh it’s just an overproduced game show” realistic apathy or a universal lack of passion on her part.

    • Anonymous

      Totally agree that she was the right choice to go.  I don’t see how they can not take into account the previous challenges.  Plus it serves notice to all those slackers who “just want to be safe” through the challenges:  if you’re head’s on the block, you don’t have any previous triumphs to back you up!  Personally I think this style of judging should yield more decent designs; at the very least, it should push people away from phoning in challenges.  

      Plus, Bert’s a dick.  I’d like to think they took that into account when judging Anthony Ryan’s “leadership” skills.  But probably not, given that the judges screwed the pooch on everything but the loser this week.  Bleh.

    • Anonymous

      For me I would have auf’d him instead of her. His was so inexcusably bad from every perspective and he couldn’t really blame Bert’s bad attitude on it

    • MilaXX

      eh, I another one who’s portfolio failed to impressed me. Perhaps she needed to prove chiffon could work, but this certainly wasn’t the week to do so. I also don’t have a problem with cumulative judging, but I don’t always feel they judge that way either. Some auf’ing really do feel based solely on the current challenge .

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Chiffon DOES work, for oh so many things — ACTIVEWEAR ISN’T ONE OF THEM!

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      Yeah… no matter what the challenge, Danielle’s response always was “I will design a flawlessly constructed chiffon top.” Fortunately?/unfortunately?, she was on a team that actually involved her in the design process, thus allowing her to design another receptionist’s blouse, and sealing her aufdom.

      I wonder what will happen to her lovely model. There has been no model switch-up opportunities. I miss the model stealing drama. Those hangers just walk behind the scrim and out of our lives.

      • Anonymous

        re: the models. And they don’t seem as good this year as in previous years. I haven’t really noticed any of the models this season.

        • Aly Light

          I’m actually a big fan of Danielle’s model! So, too bad that she’s probably walking out of here. And I think Victor’s model has needed to be reprimanded by Heidi a few times– she puts on the most ridiculous fish faces when her outfit is being discussed, and slumps all over the place.

          • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

            She ALWAYS looks pissed off, and not in an interesting way.  It’s like she hates being there.  She needs to go.

          • http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian

            She ALWAYS looks pissed off, and not in an interesting way.  It’s like she hates being there.  She needs to go.

          • Anonymous

            I’m no fan of Danielle’s model, actually. I mean, she’s gorgeous, but why was she hanging her head during all discussion of the team’s clothes? What was with that?

          • Anonymous

            Oh no, it was the one with the gorgeous long red hair!

          • Anonymous

            I had to laugh when Viktor said his model was really workin’ it on the runway. Did I miss something? She just looked pissed off.

            An interesting/positive note: Danielle’s model is no skinny minnie. Girl has some meat on her bones. Have we ever seen a PR model who wasn’t a size 0-2? I’m sure some people (by which I mean assholes in the fashion industry) would say they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel with models who aren’t sticks. I say “Yay”.

            • Anonymous

              Actually, I’m not sure we’ve ever seen a PR model who was a size 0-2. The few times they’ve shown one of their cards, they’ve been listed as a size 4, which is fairly standard.

              Alexandra from Season 3 was once referred to by Tim as “zaftig”, but she can’t have been more than a size 6 (maybe, maybe a size 8).

        • Aly Light

          I’m actually a big fan of Danielle’s model! So, too bad that she’s probably walking out of here. And I think Victor’s model has needed to be reprimanded by Heidi a few times– she puts on the most ridiculous fish faces when her outfit is being discussed, and slumps all over the place.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I miss Koji — she had great hair, beautiful skin, and a ridiculously long neck.

    • aussiegal77

      The second I heard Danielle referred to as Boring – I knew she was done. I lean towards the cumulative judging myself but if a designer is really showing some heinous judgement one week – I’d be all up for the Auf. 

      I agree with Anthony staying in – he’s clearly the one with potential and Judges want to see more.  

      • Anonymous

        I think the decision depends on how bad the worst look is. If it’s head and shoulders the worst thing on the runway, then it ends up a one-week auf. If, like this week, there are two or more equally bad looks, then I think past performance counts.
        And that makes sense to me.

    • Anonymous

      If they’re doing cumultive judging, then be open about it, Award points, and whoever has the most points at the end wins. I’m so over this show.

    • Anonymous

      Forgot to say, I wonder if Heidi is really starting get fed up with Nina and Michael in these judging rounds. Interesting that she made a point of saying she would have axed Anthony Ryan if it was up to her

      • Anonymous

        I didn’t like that at all, actually. She’s veering in to Tyra Banks territory. (Which means the show has jumped the shark but I still love it.)

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I did.  I think it’s good for her to give those warnings — like when she reprimanded Bert.  I wish the others would as well (regular 3 only), but I understand Heidi does the announcements for those moments so she kind of has to.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

        Anthony Ryan’s design was a big flop, and his skills as a team leader were lacking. That said, since at least Michael and Nina do take a designer’s cumulative work into consideration, then he was not going to be auf’d. 

        And the PR axiom “Don’t bore Nina” remains true, true, true.
        bitchybitchybitchy

    • Anonymous

      Remember Emilio and his washer bikini? How did he ever get by with that? Urgh.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

        The judges definitely took Emilio’s body of work into account to keep him in the game that season, but then they also did that during Season 4 when Christian Siriano, the eventual winner, was almost undone by 17 year-old’s prom mania.

      • Anonymous

        Cumulative judging philosophy at play there, for sure!

      • Anonymous

        Also,  Santino. There were three times it was clear he should have gone home (lingerie, that disastrous jumpsuit he made for Kara, and one other time that I can’t remember right now), and they kept talking about how he took risks. Sending a poorly fitting, unfinished, just plain ugly jumpsuit down the runway is not taking a risk. I mostly love Santino, but, man, he did some serious skating.

    • Anonymous

      I’m on Michael and Nina’s side. I think by going with the overall, at least in the first 5-6 episodes, you are weeding out the flukes of the group. There are always going to be one or two that sit in the middle like Hello Kitty. I’d rather see a good designer with a couple of flops than one who is consistently in the group with no reviews. Last week she was in the bottom and this week was the same. She should have been auf-ed based on that consistency anyways, end of story. (and this applies to Bryce as well) 

    • Susan Crawford

      Yes, her garment was a schmatta: limp, shapeless and blah. The “big and tight” romper was even worse. But theatre is all, and both Michael and NinahGahcia know this. And a gal with a pigtail and a cutsie bow will not cut it. Auf with her head!

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        Anthony Ryan invented the Classical schmatta.

        • Susan Crawford

          Invented and RE-invented! Perhaps if he had made it out of green chiffon . . . ?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

          With camel toe AND camel butt to boot!
          bitchybitchybitchy

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        Anthony Ryan invented the Classical schmatta.

      • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

        Anthony Ryan invented the Classical schmatta.

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      Danielle is one of those people that I was surprised made it into the 16 at all. What a bust. I wonder what Gunnar Deatherage would have brought to the proceedings…

      • Anonymous

        Or David Chum.  I couldn’t believe he wasn’t chosen. He had a very strong point of view.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Yeah, that he was passed up was shocking to me. But now it all makes sense. Clearly the producers knew their bitch quota was maxed out. If only they were as concerned about filling the “talent” quota. :-/

          • Anonymous

            I wasn’t too shocked by the other eliminated designers, because someone had to go. But I also was shocked that David was let go. And disappointed. I really liked him. He seemed smart and serious. Plus: handsome! 

        • Helen C

          His designs are good but he seems like another quiet Asian guy.  They already had the quota of that role filled by Olivier, who’s more interesting with his hair/accent/doll-like appearance.  

        • Helen C

          His designs are good but he seems like another quiet Asian guy.  They already had the quota of that role filled by Olivier, who’s more interesting with his hair/accent/doll-like appearance.  

    • Anonymous

      I agree with the cummulative judging, because I didn’t want Anthony to leave because I have enjoyed what he has done so far.  I can’t remember a single garment she has done on the show to date.  Not one.  I just know she had chiffon issues.  

      His garment was easily worse (I mean that may be the only time I can remember than Nina did a gasp of horror when she turned around), but I still don’t think he should go.  

    • http://twitter.com/londonpenguin Teresa MacDonald

      What’s going on with the models this year? I assume Danielle’s model is simply out, and that no other designer has the option of picking her up. I miss the velvet button bag!

    • Anonymous

      I honestly don’t believe I’ve worn chiffon, ever. Is there a big market for it right now? Has it been in at any point in the last generation and I just missed it? And here’s the thing: I think she actually used restraint. I’ve always suspected that she’d make all of these tops high-collar buttoned-up Little House on the Prairie things if she could have gotten away with it. 

      • Anonymous

        I think I have a chiffon blouse in my closet although it’s about 2 sizes too small for me, fairly classic in cut. IIRC, I wore it with a suit when I interviewed somewhere.

      • Anonymous

        I think I have a chiffon blouse in my closet although it’s about 2 sizes too small for me, fairly classic in cut. IIRC, I wore it with a suit when I interviewed somewhere.

      • Toto Maya

        Not from what I know, the only chiffon I’ve seen by anyone in my family is stuff my mother and grandmothers wore two decades ago and now it just sits in their closet.

      • Kathleen Gillies

        Chiffon dresses — I have had a few but they aren’t what I would call hardy garments.

      • Anonymous

        I have some vintage chiffon scarves in my costume collection. I will occasionally tie one onto a vintage bag handle, Grace Kelly-style. :-)

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I LOVE chiffon — I have a lot of dresses with chiffon on them.  But it’s not right for every moment, and I have little to no patience for a designer who can’t come up with anything new.  Cohesion is one thing, a rut is another.

    • Anonymous

      But Anthony had 2 strikes against him – horrible garment and bad team leader. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        EXACTLY!! 

    • Anonymous

      But Anthony had 2 strikes against him – horrible garment and bad team leader. 

    • Anonymous

      But Anthony had 2 strikes against him – horrible garment and bad team leader. 

    • scottyf

      Radio darlings T&Lo said…
      “The second we saw her in that Hello Kitty headband, we knew it was over.

      Don’t most empowered women have one of those?

      • Susan Crawford

        Love your Dr. Angelou quote. I had the rare pleasure of meeting and talking with her a few years back, and she was empowered. And, oddly, not wearing her kitty-bow headband! (winkwink!) What did you think of our Bertie this week? Don’t you want to take him out for a long evening of good drinks and a serious chat? I think he needs you, my dear!

        • scottyf

          I’m in awe of your talking with Dr. Angelou. I’ve heard her speak, but I’ve never had the honor/blessing of actually meeting her.

          As far as Bert is concerned. I wrote a rather lengthy post in the first PR episode update thread, but somehow it disappeared. Short version: he’s the reason I chose the quote. The Bert hate frustrates me. He said who he was right up front, and I believed him. I think others painted a picture of a silver-haired benevolent, sweet-tempered gay uncle and were hurt when their rather two-dimensional image of him didn’t pan out. One of the reasons I like the guy is the fact that what you see is what you get: a crotchety well-worn queen. He’s a Velveteen Rabbit after years of living and love. Honestly, I’d like to believe that if we were ever to really meet, the LAST thing either one of us would want to talk about over drinks would be PR. I’d just listen to the stories of his life and career, while going through the Kama Sutra in my mind and figuring out which positions we’d be trying out later in the evening.

          • Susan Crawford

            I treasure the time I spent with Dr. Angelou, scottyf. It was truly awe-inspiring and – dare I say it – even a bit magical. Such is her power.

            Bert is, to me, one of the more fascinating individuals on PR in this, or any other season. He is maddening to many people on many levels, and seems so disconnected from other contestants – even in a strange way, from himself! I think that is why I continue to root for him, despite his often provocative and abrasive behavior. I really want him to hang around for a while, just because I think there’s something that a lot of “young ‘uns” have to learn about putting people in neat little boxes, and defining others through ageism that only Bert can teach them in his own unique way. I don’t expect a charming, avuncular elder butterfly to emerge from the cocoon- but I think I’d like to join you in that conversation (I’ll leave the Kama Sutra to you two) if it ever happens. I, too have a feeling Bert would have some powerful stories to share!

            Hope you are well out of Hurricane Irene’s path, my friend – lovely to chat!

          • Susan Crawford

            I treasure the time I spent with Dr. Angelou, scottyf. It was truly awe-inspiring and – dare I say it – even a bit magical. Such is her power.

            Bert is, to me, one of the more fascinating individuals on PR in this, or any other season. He is maddening to many people on many levels, and seems so disconnected from other contestants – even in a strange way, from himself! I think that is why I continue to root for him, despite his often provocative and abrasive behavior. I really want him to hang around for a while, just because I think there’s something that a lot of “young ‘uns” have to learn about putting people in neat little boxes, and defining others through ageism that only Bert can teach them in his own unique way. I don’t expect a charming, avuncular elder butterfly to emerge from the cocoon- but I think I’d like to join you in that conversation (I’ll leave the Kama Sutra to you two) if it ever happens. I, too have a feeling Bert would have some powerful stories to share!

            Hope you are well out of Hurricane Irene’s path, my friend – lovely to chat!

          • Susan Crawford

            I treasure the time I spent with Dr. Angelou, scottyf. It was truly awe-inspiring and – dare I say it – even a bit magical. Such is her power.

            Bert is, to me, one of the more fascinating individuals on PR in this, or any other season. He is maddening to many people on many levels, and seems so disconnected from other contestants – even in a strange way, from himself! I think that is why I continue to root for him, despite his often provocative and abrasive behavior. I really want him to hang around for a while, just because I think there’s something that a lot of “young ‘uns” have to learn about putting people in neat little boxes, and defining others through ageism that only Bert can teach them in his own unique way. I don’t expect a charming, avuncular elder butterfly to emerge from the cocoon- but I think I’d like to join you in that conversation (I’ll leave the Kama Sutra to you two) if it ever happens. I, too have a feeling Bert would have some powerful stories to share!

            Hope you are well out of Hurricane Irene’s path, my friend – lovely to chat!

          • Susan Crawford

            I treasure the time I spent with Dr. Angelou, scottyf. It was truly awe-inspiring and – dare I say it – even a bit magical. Such is her power.

            Bert is, to me, one of the more fascinating individuals on PR in this, or any other season. He is maddening to many people on many levels, and seems so disconnected from other contestants – even in a strange way, from himself! I think that is why I continue to root for him, despite his often provocative and abrasive behavior. I really want him to hang around for a while, just because I think there’s something that a lot of “young ‘uns” have to learn about putting people in neat little boxes, and defining others through ageism that only Bert can teach them in his own unique way. I don’t expect a charming, avuncular elder butterfly to emerge from the cocoon- but I think I’d like to join you in that conversation (I’ll leave the Kama Sutra to you two) if it ever happens. I, too have a feeling Bert would have some powerful stories to share!

            Hope you are well out of Hurricane Irene’s path, my friend – lovely to chat!

          • Anonymous

            Yes, scotty, to everything you said about Bert. When he said his nephews call him Uncle Tightass, I assumed he wasn’t always a walk in the park. A lot of people jumped on the Bert train even before the season started. Now they’re disappointed, which I totally get. All that pre-season “shallow” (as TLo put it) speculation we engage in is loads of fun, but if you choose a favorite when you have no information about him/her (or ignore what you’ve been told), it’s going to be shocking to find out your favorite isn’t what you wanted him to be.

            He knows who he is, which is something I can’t say about many of the other designers. I mean, Cecelia said she had already won. Fallene said everything rolls off her back. Bryce said “I can win Project Runway because I can design anything.” Bert said “I enjoy my space and can be difficult when I don’t get it.” There’s only one quotation that’s turned out to be true.

            Yeah, he can be rude and abrasive, and he obviously doesn’t give a shit about what a bunch of fetuses think about him. But he’s no phony. I’m willing to give him plenty of room to be who he is.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Yay for the Velveteen Rabbit.  One of my childhood favorites. 

    • scottyf

      Radio darlings T&Lo said…
      “The second we saw her in that Hello Kitty headband, we knew it was over.

      Don’t most empowered women have one of those?

    • Ted Kane

      At this point, the question is whether PR has jumped the shark, it’s when it happened.  Maybe when Gretchen won?  Probably earlier.  In any case, I’d argue that when the host and judges of a reality show become bigger stars than the contestants, a show’s on its way down. 

      By the way, that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop watching.  I still find it entertaining, but also maddening, especially in light of what it once was.

      • Anonymous

        That’s kind of odd thinking though. None of the contestants on this show will ever, EVER be as big of a star as Heidi Klum and she was a big star before the show started. Plus hosts and judges are consistent from year to year while contestants change. Really, by your logic, the show was on its way down from the very first episode.

      • Indovina

        People have been talking about shark-jumping since Season 4*, which I think, in spite of the great work on that and some later seasons, is actually about right. The show was still good, great in fact, for a while, but it was changed: it was no longer fresh, it was no longer new, it was no longer raw – it was established, it was overproduced**, it was self-referential.

        * Here’s TLo on the subject: http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2007/11/poking-the-shark-2.html

        ** Not that it was ever anything but heavily stage-managed.

    • Anonymous

      Since it has now been proved beyond a doubt that the show we loved called “Project Runway” no longer exists and has been replaced by this sad joke of a reality show, the basis for judging no longer matters. The producers will do what they’re going to do to bring this program as close to the Kartrashian crap they purvey as possible.

      But let’s assume we’re back in the early seasons and were having this discussion.  My feeling is that Heidi was dead right when she quoted her own tag line–One day you’re in, and the next day you’re out. Isn’t that what this show is supposed to be about? Excuse me–WAS supposed to be about?  My feeling is that you have to be judged on what you put out This Week. And to say, at this point, that Anthony has potential so he should stay after producing what might be the worst shmatta ever to “grace” the runway, while simultaneously being a terrible team leader?  Give me a fucking break. There’s no way he should have stayed. He earned the auf. Too bad he didn’t get it. But if he had, BM wouldn’t be able to show him saying things like, “I haven’t been this mad since I had cancer.” Which is their idea of good reality competitions.

      I watched the premiere of “Top Chef: Just Desserts” the other night. For their first elimination challenge, the chef teams had to create not only desserts but a showpiece–one of those impossible centerpieces made of pulled sugar and molded chocolate and pure magic. The winning design was spectacular. And the losing design was ghastly in every way.  The person who went home was the team leader who led her team badly, resulting in the horrible showpiece, not the person who showed less potential in the quickfire challenge. And that’s how it should be.

      God, where is “The Fashion Show” when we need it?  I wish they would run that show against Project Fucked-up.  I know which one I would watch.

      • Anonymous

        I see this like American Idol – even if someone sounds like a wailing cat as his tail is being run over,one week…. the judges don’t want to be slammed for getting rid of who they consider to have more talent overall.  Not necessarily agreeing with it; it is just the way I think of this particular argument went down

        • Anonymous

          I hear you, and if we were down to five designers, I could get behind that approach more.  But this early in the competition, I think that if you produce abominable crap and lead your time to disaster, you go. Regardless of what you made last week. And I didn’t like what Anthony made last week either, LOL!

          • Anonymous

            I sooo agree with you Infora.  If, you put out f-upped crap then auf you go! You don’t get to stay on the promise of future potential. That’s the core of the game, “can you produce TODAY?”, with little to no sleep, team mate drama, cray ridic challenges.  Can you produce TODAY? That was PR’s battle cry. That’s why I’m a huge Top Chef fan because they strongly adhere to this idea of judging. It doesn’t matter how great the the lamb cooked en vide with blah blah sauce was last week, fudge the creme brulee and you will be packing-up your knives. 
            Sorry, for the rant but I just finished watching last night’s episode. WTF is going on with PR?!
            Since when does an ill fitting, poorly sewn,camel toe/ass baby romper, deserve a stay??!

      • http://twitter.com/NostalgiaOD NostalgiaOD

        Completely agree and that is one reason I always love the Top Chef franchise because it is consistent episode after episode, year after year.  Which PR used to be too…when it was on Bravo.

      • Anonymous

        During one the the PR Reunion shows, Michael Kors stated that you are judged week by week, not on a cumulative basis, but said the opposite last night.  Which is it?  I think Anthony should have gone too. 

        • Anonymous

          They change their minds depending on who they like. There’s no science to it.

          • Anonymous

            Exactly!!

      • Anonymous

        I liked the Fashion Show much better. 

      • Anonymous

        Even if we need a replacement for Project Runway, which we don’t, I think The Fashion Show is hardly the replacement for it. First season was dull and a cheap Runway knockoff, and the last season was horrific, and it had some fucked up judging too and producer input, remember calvin tran?? I really shouldn’t have given it that second chance.

      • Anonymous

        Even if we need a replacement for Project Runway, which we don’t, I think The Fashion Show is hardly the replacement for it. First season was dull and a cheap Runway knockoff, and the last season was horrific, and it had some fucked up judging too and producer input, remember calvin tran?? I really shouldn’t have given it that second chance.

      • Anonymous

        Have to agree– if only B-M would take note of whatTop Chef is doing, and winning the Emmy for!  It has infinitely more integrity than what they’ve turned Project Runway into.  It’s just so disappointing because it really used to be a great show.  This episode was disgraceful to say the least.  Come on, producers, have you no shame?  Everyone’s on to you now.  The sad thing is, too, that the direction of the show will make it even harder for the “real” designers on the show (which I do question….the talent is…where?) who want careers as fashion designers are going to work so hard at being taken seriously.  This does nothing for their careers.

    • http://visceralresponse.com Dina dV

      I actually think there was a legitimate challenge-related reason to boot her.  Yes, Anthony Ryan’s was awful but he was also working on a dysfunctional team. He allotted a lot of his “leadership” time trying to get an immovable object to move and when Heidi hated his Grecian jumpsuit idea completely lost the plot.

      Danielle didn’t even have that excuse.  She made a similar outfit to last week’s…only worse.  And while working on a team with Kimberly and Bryce, all of whom seemed to work well together.  AR’s outfit was the worst of the week, but if you take in mitigating circumstances, Danielle was the worst performer.

      • Anonymous

        Wonder what would have happened if Danielle and Becky were reversed?  Danielle might not have minded being bossed around by Clinique Josh, and she might have skated by.  Becky would definitely have been a stronger team member for Kimberly and Bryce.  I admired the way she and Kimberly worked together earlier; it might have been interesting to see their sensibilities combine for this challenge. 

        • http://visceralresponse.com Dina dV

          I can’t imagine Danielle being better able to handle Miss Clinique’s awfulness, although she is young and thin so he might not have been so awful with her on the team.  Of course, I don’t know if she would have been so willing to sew all the garments so who knows if Anya would have been as nice to her.  I doubt the judges would have rewarded Miss Clinique with a co-win, though.

          But I do think that if Becky had been on the team with Bryce and Kimberly that they would have gotten along just fine.  His issues working with Fallene wouldn’t have come up since Becky is a fast sewer and a good tailor.  Hell, on that team she might have shunted Miss Clinique to a bottom-feeder and force him to defend himself instead of having the judges praise him for being such a heinous, self-absorbed dick to constantly berate Becky into sewing a simple maxi dress reasonably well.

        • http://visceralresponse.com Dina dV

          I can’t imagine Danielle being better able to handle Miss Clinique’s awfulness, although she is young and thin so he might not have been so awful with her on the team.  Of course, I don’t know if she would have been so willing to sew all the garments so who knows if Anya would have been as nice to her.  I doubt the judges would have rewarded Miss Clinique with a co-win, though.

          But I do think that if Becky had been on the team with Bryce and Kimberly that they would have gotten along just fine.  His issues working with Fallene wouldn’t have come up since Becky is a fast sewer and a good tailor.  Hell, on that team she might have shunted Miss Clinique to a bottom-feeder and force him to defend himself instead of having the judges praise him for being such a heinous, self-absorbed dick to constantly berate Becky into sewing a simple maxi dress reasonably well.

        • http://visceralresponse.com Dina dV

          I can’t imagine Danielle being better able to handle Miss Clinique’s awfulness, although she is young and thin so he might not have been so awful with her on the team.  Of course, I don’t know if she would have been so willing to sew all the garments so who knows if Anya would have been as nice to her.  I doubt the judges would have rewarded Miss Clinique with a co-win, though.

          But I do think that if Becky had been on the team with Bryce and Kimberly that they would have gotten along just fine.  His issues working with Fallene wouldn’t have come up since Becky is a fast sewer and a good tailor.  Hell, on that team she might have shunted Miss Clinique to a bottom-feeder and force him to defend himself instead of having the judges praise him for being such a heinous, self-absorbed dick to constantly berate Becky into sewing a simple maxi dress reasonably well.

    • Anonymous

      As I noted in the Lounge – the approach of having the designers work as a group where you cannot CLEARLY have each designer OWN their own complete look usually is a recipe for disaster.   Didn’t Danielle also design and sew the jacket? 

      I cannot see any detail – but the overall view looked really good.   So she made a great jacket and a blah tank – while Kimberly made a skirt (on the losing looks?) and a pair of shorts. (with what looks like some funky pooching in the pic above) – and I like Kimberly

    • Anonymous

      As I noted in the Lounge – the approach of having the designers work as a group where you cannot CLEARLY have each designer OWN their own complete look usually is a recipe for disaster.   Didn’t Danielle also design and sew the jacket? 

      I cannot see any detail – but the overall view looked really good.   So she made a great jacket and a blah tank – while Kimberly made a skirt (on the losing looks?) and a pair of shorts. (with what looks like some funky pooching in the pic above) – and I like Kimberly

    • Amanda in Austin

      Project Runway Rule Number One: DON’T BORE NINA!

    • Anonymous

      I think the idea of ‘one day you’re in and the next day you’re out’ works better if they were just letting them design, when there were less hoops to jump through. More hoops you jump through, more likely a good designer is going to have a bad day due to personalities and/or weird challenge stipulations and time issues.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1214755227 Meira Niibori

        Not to mention the fact that most of the judges are the same each week, the guest judge(s) never seem to have any say in the end result, and the work isn’t presented blind…..

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1214755227 Meira Niibori

        Not to mention the fact that most of the judges are the same each week, the guest judge(s) never seem to have any say in the end result, and the work isn’t presented blind…..

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1214755227 Meira Niibori

        Not to mention the fact that most of the judges are the same each week, the guest judge(s) never seem to have any say in the end result, and the work isn’t presented blind…..

    • Anonymous

      I’m totally okay with them taking prior performance into account.  When you decide things week to week, Wendy Pepper ends up in the finale.  I think Nina and Michael learned their lesson back in season 1.  If a design is horrible enough, you can send a decent designer home, but I believe the judges should look at the cumulative body of work, especially in the middle of the season.

      • Anonymous

        The thing is, the judges/producers are totally inconsistent about “taking prior performances into account”.  If they adhered to that philosophy, then Mondo should have easily won last season.  Gretchen produced a shit load of ugly crap during most of the challenges.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCLO5V2YD36T7QMPKOC7YXPOFU Erica

      My  husband summed it up perfectly when he said before the final decision that “the mousy girl is going home.”  I protested that they don’t send ALL mousy-looking girls home (Leanne Marshall) and that this girl isn’t THAT mousy.  But I understood his point.  Everything about her is mousy:her look and style, her approach to the competition, her designs.  Who can get worked up about her being aufed?  If not now, then next week.

    • Anonymous

      If I were Danielle, I would be pissed – she made one kickass item and one that sucked but she went home over something really horrible. However…she made the fatal flaw of not listening to the judges and put out another version of something they hated last week and she wasn’t interesting enough, personality & design-wise to keep around.

    • Anonymous

      If I were Danielle, I would be pissed – she made one kickass item and one that sucked but she went home over something really horrible. However…she made the fatal flaw of not listening to the judges and put out another version of something they hated last week and she wasn’t interesting enough, personality & design-wise to keep around.

    • Anonymous

      If I were Danielle, I would be pissed – she made one kickass item and one that sucked but she went home over something really horrible. However…she made the fatal flaw of not listening to the judges and put out another version of something they hated last week and she wasn’t interesting enough, personality & design-wise to keep around.

    • Vaniljekjeks

      This looks like something that would result in my deciding to try to make a dress out of scraps when really, really drunk.  I have never made a dress before. 

      • Anonymous

        Drunk sewing…never a good idea. :-)

    • Anonymous

      i really thought she might be an interesting designer.  feel sad for her.  goodbye kitty…..

    • Anonymous

      I think Danielle got a raw deal.  Anthony’s design (and team management) were disasters.  She did make a decent jacket and if it had been worn over the tank, she’d have had a decent look.  I also think to be talking about a record this early in the game is silly.  I get it when there are seven designers, but 12?  Particularly when you’ve just brought back someone (Mormon-“straight” boy) who had a couple of bottom challenges before being auf’d.

      I like Anthony, but his outfit was really, really BAD.  

      And I don’t think Danielle would have gone if she’d had a bigger personality.  The chiffon blouse she made for the stilt walker was actually quite interesting technically.

      So I get keeping the bigger personality or designer with the better record if the designs are close or it’s late in the game.  But this was bad.  Particularly as Anthony hasn’t done anything brilliant–remember, his best work has been deriviative–McQueen for the seed dress.  Why play favorites with someone who *isn’t* a clear-cut end-gamer?

    • http://twitter.com/drnels Nels P. Highberg

      Anthony made one of the worst outfits in this show’s history. Tom would never let such a horrible dish go on Top Chef. I miss Magical Elves.

    • Anonymous

      Danielle had the most interesting, memorable model.  I guess she’s kaput, too.  Nuts.

      • http://twitter.com/CheriCPat Cheri Patrick

        I couldn’t agree with you more!  I keep hoping that next week they will suddenly do a “model choice” so that someone can save her.  Didn’t someone threaten to steal her the very first challenge?  Let them!

    • Anonymous

      Anthony Ryan also worked beautifully before on a team, when that team took the whole enchillada and he graciously let his partner take the immunity. That is, there really was more than reason for the judges to decide he stays in this week.

    • Anonymous

      Hello Kitty headband! lmfao

      I also agree with Nina and Michael. I have always felt in these competitions that it’s unfair NOT to take a contestant’s whole body of work into consideration. Obviously, either way talented people are going to be sent home, but you have a better chance of keeping the more talented people around if you take that approach. 

    • http://twitter.com/karenwalsh Karen Walsh

      Oh kitty, boring never triumphs over drama.  You never had a chance.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=720742723 Sarah Winningham

      On Top Chef they judge by performance on the actual day, no matter how much it hurts to lose someone who had been dominating and/or charming viewers  all season. That’s why it’s exciting and nerve-wracking to watch and that’s one of the reasons that it still has some shreds of credibility, unlike this crapfest.

      • Anonymous

        However, on “Chopped” (aka “Top Chef in One Day”), they DO make an explicit point of judging the two who make it to the dessert round on not just their dessert, but all three courses they put out.  That’s an entirely valid way to judge, it seems to me, and I have no problem with the PR judges taking a contestant’s entire body of work into account at each auf’ing.

        The bigger problem with the judging is, as TLo have long pointed out, that the criteria for each challenge have become so ill-defined (or non-defined, or conflictingly-defined) that the ultimate decisions are coming off as capricioius, unfair, and/or producer shenanigans.  

        That’s a sure-fire way to kill audience interest in what was originally a legitimate, talent & skill -based competition.

        • Anonymous

          I agree. Even as they put down the parameters, I found myself saying, “Now what are they supposed to make again?” It made it OK for the judging to be totally subjective—almost to the point of the “I would/would not wear that” garbage we got last season. I despise challenges that involve making something for the judges, or for Marie Claire. Enough already!

        • Anonymous

          I agree. Even as they put down the parameters, I found myself saying, “Now what are they supposed to make again?” It made it OK for the judging to be totally subjective—almost to the point of the “I would/would not wear that” garbage we got last season. I despise challenges that involve making something for the judges, or for Marie Claire. Enough already!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=720742723 Sarah Winningham

      On Top Chef they judge by performance on the actual day, no matter how much it hurts to lose someone who had been dominating and/or charming viewers  all season. That’s why it’s exciting and nerve-wracking to watch and that’s one of the reasons that it still has some shreds of credibility, unlike this crapfest.

    • Anonymous

      I was pulling for AR to make it through.  He really looked sick and it would have been a shame for him to go based on this challenge.  Danielle never inspired that kind of feeling for me.  She always looks kind of sad and she makes sad clothes.

    • Anonymous

      I was pulling for AR to make it through.  He really looked sick and it would have been a shame for him to go based on this challenge.  Danielle never inspired that kind of feeling for me.  She always looks kind of sad and she makes sad clothes.

    • Anonymous

      I too agree the show should be about entire output, not the changing verisimilitudes of each challenge. That’s how terrible designers end up showing at Bryant Park and good designers sometimes get sent home really early. I’m more concerned about someone’s actual level of taste and talent than the fact that maybe one day they really fucked up because they were tired or something. And yes, it seems obvious to me that, regardless of “one day you’re in, the next day you’re out” soundbites in the opening montage, they have always judged people on their entire output. It’s abundantly clear they have no consistent criteria, basically so they can outright decide who wins and loses. (Many design school programs are like that too, where, regardless of standardized grading rubrics and whatnot, it is fairly understood that the grade you receive at the end of the semester is whatever grade that professor wanted to give you.) Perhaps that too is why challenge parameters are consistently left vague.
      Too bad, Danielle. I had hopes for you, thought you’d be a Leanne and start really pulling it out full force, and even predicted you would be in the finale. I can’t argue with the auf tho. The second that fucking green color reared its head again it was all over. Seriously? She’s used a version of that color every single challenge, some more blue than others, but still. I find it bizarre. And this thing was just blah, and poorly made. Bye-bye.
      (I don’t understand the team challenges. If you are responsible for an outfit, you are responsible for an outfit. If you make something crappy because someone keeps “forcing” decisions on you, that is still your fault. I would go ahead and make what I wanted, if I thought it was truly better than the supposed team “consensus.” At least then you can defend your look to the judges instead of saying “so-and-so made me do it.” Unless they are taking the actual garment from your hands and finishing it for you against your will, they are not MAKING you do anything.)

    • Anonymous

      I too agree the show should be about entire output, not the changing verisimilitudes of each challenge. That’s how terrible designers end up showing at Bryant Park and good designers sometimes get sent home really early. I’m more concerned about someone’s actual level of taste and talent than the fact that maybe one day they really fucked up because they were tired or something. And yes, it seems obvious to me that, regardless of “one day you’re in, the next day you’re out” soundbites in the opening montage, they have always judged people on their entire output. It’s abundantly clear they have no consistent criteria, basically so they can outright decide who wins and loses. (Many design school programs are like that too, where, regardless of standardized grading rubrics and whatnot, it is fairly understood that the grade you receive at the end of the semester is whatever grade that professor wanted to give you.) Perhaps that too is why challenge parameters are consistently left vague.
      Too bad, Danielle. I had hopes for you, thought you’d be a Leanne and start really pulling it out full force, and even predicted you would be in the finale. I can’t argue with the auf tho. The second that fucking green color reared its head again it was all over. Seriously? She’s used a version of that color every single challenge, some more blue than others, but still. I find it bizarre. And this thing was just blah, and poorly made. Bye-bye.
      (I don’t understand the team challenges. If you are responsible for an outfit, you are responsible for an outfit. If you make something crappy because someone keeps “forcing” decisions on you, that is still your fault. I would go ahead and make what I wanted, if I thought it was truly better than the supposed team “consensus.” At least then you can defend your look to the judges instead of saying “so-and-so made me do it.” Unless they are taking the actual garment from your hands and finishing it for you against your will, they are not MAKING you do anything.)

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: Heidi’s week-by-week approach has its merits, but it can also result in people making it far, far past the point where they should have been sent home.”

      Yes, and that’s how hapless SweetP ended up going as far as she did.

      –GothamTomato

      • Anonymous

        I think Sweet P stayed on as long as she did in part for this reason, but also because they liked her personality in the workroom. Which is a different judging issue.

      • Anonymous

        And Wendy Pepper, in that she got in the final three because she won the last challenge. 

        • Anonymous

          Partly, though, that was stupidity on the producers’ part for putting a “make a pretty dress for a client” challenge in the final slot. That sort of challenge requires a “this challenge only” approach to judging the winner – and is the least talent-finding sort of challenge. Which they should have realized had the potential to result in exactly what it resulted in: the least talented person lucking out and winning an unearned spot at Fashion Week.

      • Anonymous

        And Wendy Pepper, in that she got in the final three because she won the last challenge. 

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: Heidi’s week-by-week approach has its merits, but it can also result in people making it far, far past the point where they should have been sent home.”

      Yes, and that’s how hapless SweetP ended up going as far as she did.

      –GothamTomato

    • Anonymous

      While I’d’ve kept AR too. I think it’s fair to point out that the first chiffon blouse was raved over and the second was crap but specifically requested. Meanwhile AR’s has sent down two very referential looks 

    • Anonymous

      While I’d’ve kept AR too. I think it’s fair to point out that the first chiffon blouse was raved over and the second was crap but specifically requested. Meanwhile AR’s has sent down two very referential looks 

      • Anonymous

        I was mystified that Nina was so impressed with the first that she requested the second, then this episode challenged Heidi to tell her when Danielle had EVER made something good.  Say what now?!

    • Anonymous

      Am I watching America’s Next Top Model or Project Runway? The judging criteria on this show is becoming as wacky as Ms. Banks herself. One challenge it is the sewing, next challenge it is the styling, next challenge it is the fabric. There no consistancy in these last few seasons.

    • Rand Ortega

      Danielle reminds me of the “meep” girl from Season 1. Too mousy to actually compete.

      • Anonymous

        Do you mean Starr?

    • Anonymous

      I wonder if there would have been a different outcome if the jacket Danielle made was worn over her green top. Still, her decision to add that Henley placket was a bad move as it just made the top look sloppy. I doubt I’ll miss her but the combination of her jacket and top was far superior AR’s pathetic top and bottom and he should have been auf’d. 

    • http://twitter.com/NostalgiaOD NostalgiaOD

      Sorry, while I agree that Anthony has shown more exciting looks over the course of the season and I would prefer to see more stuff from him than from her, he failed on every level on this challenge.  He was the team leader of a team that produced 100% crap and his was the most horrifying outfit of everything on the runway this week. 

      It just doesn’t make sense that Josh could win for being such a damn fine team leader (in the judges cracked out opinions) and winning for a look that he neither designed nor sewed and Anthony could stay for being such a horrible leader (in the judges cracked out opinions) when his team produced nothing wearable and his was beyond awful.  As with last season though, it seems like they are hitting the crack pipe pretty hard and choosing people who create chaos and drama rather than fine clothing, so sure Anthony is the better character to keep over mousy Danielle.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2UX5EGPHONT5NCTLBEMADJ3KZU Daniel Kells

      It felt so obvious:  he is better TV.  It might not yet be The Real World with sewing, but it is a TV show, and she was yawn on a stick.

    • http://shuflies.blogspot.com catherine_sr

      With her curly long hair and her floppy bows and baby face, does Danielle not remind anyone else of Lavender Brown from Harry Potter?

      • Anonymous

        Won won!

      • Anonymous

        Won won!

    • Anonymous

      Another thought just occurred to me about the “team challenges” across all these seasons:  

      It seems the judges always claim that the point of a team challenge is to see if you can work cooperatively with colleagues, as a professional would be expected to do … but then all too often, they reward the ones who throw each other under the bus.  

      • Anonymous

        They want it both ways and ironically they had two opposing types of management issues right in front of them and they didn’t see it.

        Bert was the impossible employee who had no respect for the team leader or his fellow teammate
        Josh R was the impossible manager who could not treat his teammate with anything approaching respect

        The judges ask what’s going at the very same time they’re saying that it has no bearing on what’s going on. Michael Kors praises Josh for treating Becky like a seamstress while Heidi tells her that she could go home because she’s not designing.

    • Anonymous

      This bitter kitten once danced ballet in a chiffon costume; from then on, I hated the fabric.  This is a long way of saying that the use of chiffon is an auf’able offense, and so, the right contestant went home. 

    • Laura Lee Washburn

      Week to week will also hurt designers who take risks.  Boring/Safe/Bad TV would prevail week to week.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jahna.peloquin Jahna Peloquin

      I’m surprised that you guys completely ignored the jacket Danielle did. Heidi
      called it “really sellable” and “really cute.” The boring black skirt paired with the teal tank was designed by Kimberly – what did she do that was not boring? Bryce’s design was outright ugly. There was so much awfulness on the runway it’s crazy that they eliminated someone for being boring.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jahna.peloquin Jahna Peloquin

      I’m surprised that you guys completely ignored the jacket Danielle did. Heidi
      called it “really sellable” and “really cute.” The boring black skirt paired with the teal tank was designed by Kimberly – what did she do that was not boring? Bryce’s design was outright ugly. There was so much awfulness on the runway it’s crazy that they eliminated someone for being boring.

    • Anonymous

      I’d be a lot more satisfied with this elimination had she not also made that jacket that all the judges also liked…
      If i were her and the judges were saying “you keep boring us. and we wonder what can you do besides chiffon?” i’d be jumping up and down and saying I made that jacket that all of you liked that isn’t chiffon… and all of you liked it!
      If anything her failing this week was not being savvy enough to realize that her jacket on another designers model doesn’t help her, it helps the other designer! She was a team player and suffered for it…

      She had the unfortunate luck of doing something a few weeks ago that the judges really liked, then doing it again and not realizing that they didn’t want to see it anymore. Which no doubt must have been confusing for her…
      Sure she should have been smarter, but it’s hard to blame her for doing what the judges had previously said was great. She should have learned that last week…
      She’s one of those designers would with a little more constructive criticism probably could have made it much further. But yeah, if i were more attractive and had more money then… blah blah blah…

    • http://www.facebook.com/sophia.kor Sophia Kor

      I have watched all the episodes of this season and I don’t even remember this chick’s name LOLOZLOL!!!

    • Anonymous

      She was definitely runway chaff so the auf worked for me. And it’s clear that at least some of the judges voted based on the entire body of work and that’s okay with me too.  

      The problem this season is that there are few designers whose body of work suggests they have real talent. Everyone is either a drama queen or a cardboard cutout when it comes to personality, but I’ve yet to see someone whose work thrills me. Viktor’s comes closest, and Bert’s is much closer to my personal style (his designs, not his crankiness) but that’s a lukewarm endorsement at best. 

    • Chris Boutee

      Why doesn’t Heidi ever win these arguments? I disagree that her approach “can also result in
      people making it far, far past the point where they should have been
      sent home.”  To me, that’s exactly what happens with the cumulative approach. If Heidi had had her way, Mono-ball wouldn’t have gotten a stitch past that butt-fugly rag he sent down the runway last night. (And, cumulatively speaking, isn’t he the same designer who’s been criticized week after week  for being derivative?) In my opinion, instead of having two winners, they should have had two auffs: Mono-ball and Hello Kitty. As for that dick Clinique, he should be forced to go without makeup for a week. On camera.

    • Chris Boutee

      Why doesn’t Heidi ever win these arguments? I disagree that her approach “can also result in
      people making it far, far past the point where they should have been
      sent home.”  To me, that’s exactly what happens with the cumulative approach. If Heidi had had her way, Mono-ball wouldn’t have gotten a stitch past that butt-fugly rag he sent down the runway last night. (And, cumulatively speaking, isn’t he the same designer who’s been criticized week after week  for being derivative?) In my opinion, instead of having two winners, they should have had two auffs: Mono-ball and Hello Kitty. As for that dick Clinique, he should be forced to go without makeup for a week. On camera.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with the cumulative judging approach when the judging is between two awful designs (i.e. awful to a similar if not same degree) and one designer has clearly proven their merit in prior challenges. But in the case of AR vs. Danielle, I didn’t find her auf’ing justified. Yes, the chiffon thing was hiddy but she also made the jacket that Kimberly’s model wore which was decent and certainly better than half the crap on the runway (assuming of course that the judging based on what you designed the challenge and not just what your model wore) while AR’s design was pure shit. But then, I don’t find myself much impressed with AR. The challenges where his designs were derivative, AR came on top but the two challenges where the designs have been his own, they have been pretty meh. However, AR does have a better story (cancer) and does not have comatose tv personalitly like Danielle’s.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with the cumulative judging approach when the judging is between two awful designs (i.e. awful to a similar if not same degree) and one designer has clearly proven their merit in prior challenges. But in the case of AR vs. Danielle, I didn’t find her auf’ing justified. Yes, the chiffon thing was hiddy but she also made the jacket that Kimberly’s model wore which was decent and certainly better than half the crap on the runway (assuming of course that the judging based on what you designed the challenge and not just what your model wore) while AR’s design was pure shit. But then, I don’t find myself much impressed with AR. The challenges where his designs were derivative, AR came on top but the two challenges where the designs have been his own, they have been pretty meh. However, AR does have a better story (cancer) and does not have comatose tv personalitly like Danielle’s.

    • Anonymous

      Well this was a very disappointing episode. As someone who knows Danielle’s work, know that she CAN design, CAN sew, CAN style, and DOES play well with others, feels she should NOT have been the aufed. Her mistake was in being boring and mousy (and wearing Hello Kitty accessories), and revisiting sins from days past with her color and fabric choice and what appears to be weak sewing under pressure. But the judges (at the least the editing we saw) were not fair by trashing her whole collection. In each of her designs, she showed real sewing skill. Sure the stilt outfit had a horrible hair do,but they chose a difficult fabric and really sewed it well. The pet store challenge? Danielle created that crocheted top from dog toys. And given the drek that has come out of at least half the designers in past weeks and this one, she didn’t deserve to go IMHO at least yet.

      And the nonsense with Clinique Counter, and to a lesser extent Bert, for being rewarded after their behavior – behavior that was given SO much attention in the episode, dredged up my more than mixed feelings about watching this show. Must tell myself – it’s only a TV show. One that requires me to park my brain at the door.

    • Anonymous

      Well this was a very disappointing episode. As someone who knows Danielle’s work, know that she CAN design, CAN sew, CAN style, and DOES play well with others, feels she should NOT have been the aufed. Her mistake was in being boring and mousy (and wearing Hello Kitty accessories), and revisiting sins from days past with her color and fabric choice and what appears to be weak sewing under pressure. But the judges (at the least the editing we saw) were not fair by trashing her whole collection. In each of her designs, she showed real sewing skill. Sure the stilt outfit had a horrible hair do,but they chose a difficult fabric and really sewed it well. The pet store challenge? Danielle created that crocheted top from dog toys. And given the drek that has come out of at least half the designers in past weeks and this one, she didn’t deserve to go IMHO at least yet.

      And the nonsense with Clinique Counter, and to a lesser extent Bert, for being rewarded after their behavior – behavior that was given SO much attention in the episode, dredged up my more than mixed feelings about watching this show. Must tell myself – it’s only a TV show. One that requires me to park my brain at the door.

    • Shawn Hill

      A “Henley” collar on a girl … maybe just never attractive? Trying to correct the last challenge was her downfall … she should never have brought up green and black again.

    • Shawn Hill

      A “Henley” collar on a girl … maybe just never attractive? Trying to correct the last challenge was her downfall … she should never have brought up green and black again.

    • Aly Light

      I know I am alone in this. Utterly, sadly alone. But I LOOOOOOVE Danielle! She’s so cute! And tiny! And I really love her pre-PR work. However, I think Anthony has a much greater likelihood of producing exciting garments in the weeks to come, and it would have been pretty tragic for him to leave so soon. So I’m totally down with the Auf’ing, and I’ll settle for telling Danielle how much I love her if I ever run into her in person.

    • Aly Light

      I know I am alone in this. Utterly, sadly alone. But I LOOOOOOVE Danielle! She’s so cute! And tiny! And I really love her pre-PR work. However, I think Anthony has a much greater likelihood of producing exciting garments in the weeks to come, and it would have been pretty tragic for him to leave so soon. So I’m totally down with the Auf’ing, and I’ll settle for telling Danielle how much I love her if I ever run into her in person.

      • Anonymous

        As a Danielle fan, I kind of agree. I believe she said herself that she feared an evening gown challenge. There is bound to be something down the pike that isn’t in Danielle’s wheelhouse, yet that Anthony might handle. Still, the boy doesn’t excite and I don’t see him making it to the final 3.

    • Anonymous

      I get the dissing of this hapless shirt, but didn’t Kors and Nina also go practically orgasmic over the chiffon old-lady-on-stilts outfit Danielle and the quitter came up with? Mind you, I don’t disagree with the auf necessarily, but Anthony was such a nasty little dweeb last night that I would have preferred he be auf’d just so I wouldn’t have to listen to his whining anymore. At least this one was quiet.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, they went nuts over that old lady chiffon shirt on the Stilts Challenge, yet during this week’s judging they were talking as though Danielle had been sending down bags of flaming dog poop every week.

    • Anonymous

      I tend to agree with the Nina/Michael philosophy as well,
      except that that is not how the judging is
      presented.  If it is truly “one day you’re in, and the next day you’re
      out”, then that’s how every judging should go.  Otherwise, can that tag
      line and find another.

      Frankly, and I know this has been argued here in previous seasons, I
      think they should consider some sort of cumulative judging throughout
      the season:  so many points for wins, so many for being in the top
      three, so many for being in the bottom.

      • Anonymous

        I agree–or even cull them half way through based on cumulative scores to that date. I think it would be a fairer assessment of what a designer can do and might eliminate some stupid inconsistent judging. 

      • Sharon Metzger

        And as they’ve said on Top Chef, at least, what’s the point of having a guest judge, if you’re going to really judge the contestants on all the other stuff, too?

      • Anonymous

        Really, if someone has NEVER been “in”, shouldn’t they be going home before someone that has been “in”?  You can’t take the tagline that seriously.

    • Judy_J

      Farewell, Danielle.  We hardly knew ye.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t agree that Anthony’s work was better than Danielle’s.  I assume she was cut because she’s soft-spoken, doesn’t have a story like beating cancer and pining for her cute boyfriend, and because the judges associated her with chiffony greens but did not recall that they liked most of her designs within that palette.

      1st challenge (pajamas/sheet): her tailored sportswear looked great, was very well put-together, and newer to the eye than Anthony’s merkin mini.

      2nd (pet store): I actually liked her macrame top and wee-wee pad skirt (tie-dye/splatter patterned).  Side by side against Anthony’s, I think it was still a very high contender.  And her proportions were correct, whereas Anthony’s length was pubic.  I’d argue there was much more manipulation of materials than gluing seed to muslin.  Her design, I haven’t seen before.  His collar was very much in the McQueen vein. 

      3rd (stilts): she was top 3, along with Cecilia.  And their work wasn’t a Gucci ripoff from the very last runway show the designers would’ve been exposed to prior to filming.

      4th (Nina): I agree that Danielle made more of an outfit for Nina’s editorial assistant than for Nina, her design was more thoughtful and interesting than Anthony’s zero of a garment. 

      Sorry to see her go, actually.

      • Aly Light

        Her first two outfits were really fantastic, and should have gotten some judge recognition. Also, no green chiffon in sight!

        • http://twitter.com/1carmelita 1carmelita

          The problem with showing your best in the first few challenges is that you get lost in the crowd. Once they whittle down the group a bit, the judges are just not going to remember what you did before, unless it was fantastic. 

        • Anonymous

          I’m beginning to think that Danielle was in danger with the bad hairstyling on the stilts challenge, got Nina (and for some reason, the Duchess) completely pissed at her with last week’s blouse, so, as TLo said, would have needed a grand slam to keep them thinking that she deserved to stay. Bad karma for our girl from the Twin Cities. She’s a REALLY good designer, regardless of PR.

          • Anonymous

            I believe she and many aufed contestants are good designers.  I don’t think the format of Project Runway (with its dictated challenges, 30 minute max brainstorms before rushed shopping with limited budgets, and insufficent construction time, limited fittings, intentional roadblocks, it goes on and on) has too much to do with designing in a reasonable atmosphere.  I don’t think it’s at all a bad thing Nina that said Danielle was too ambitious for the time allotted.  That’s more how things should be done.  PR is crazy.

            • Anonymous

              Thanks for that. I agree. Because the show appears in a weekly format it also covers the fact that the challenges are almost daily. Another artificial feature.  This is reality TV, so clearly what’s rewarded is something more than being a good designer or in spite of not being the best designer.

              At least Danielle, though she didn’t go as far, can join Mondo as being a controversial, Heidi-backed ‘loser’. And with her departure, I can be more objective. 

    • Anonymous

      Cumulative vs Individual challenge: The fact of the matter that is that all competition reality shows flip flop the two to fit into the specific episode they’re filming.  PR, Top Chef, American Idol (judge feedback)–none are really consistent with it. Top Model too…although at least that show is pretty clear that it’s all about the whim of Tyra. 

      In this case though, those shorts were so, so awful that the inconsistency of the judging from episode to episdoe is extra magnified.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Baskin-Searles/1576160020 Michael Baskin-Searles

      I’m glad Anthony didn’t go home. He had to deal with Berts incessant childish behavior for so long that it took away from his design.  I hate bert.  (almost as much as I hated Gretchen from last season)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5TCZJZPFUZEOFFQIBD4LR5TRME Lucinda M

      Heidi was absolutely 100% right on. That was one holy mess, possibly the worst thing I have seen on Project Runway. It was a no brainer. Danielle’s was boring but not anywhere close to being as bad.

      • Anonymous

        And they refused to give her credit for the jacket. I know, Nina, it was ‘just’ a jacket. And I’m sorry, but why wasn’t there ANY mention of Kimberly’s average or below shorts and skirt? Considering Bryce’s crap of a dress last week and Kimberly’s meager effort on pants, singling out Danielle from these 3 just seemed odd.  

        • Anonymous

          I didn’t understand the love of Bryce’s dress. It is ugly as sin. And the front darts are atrocious! and it would not fit into Heidi’s line of lounge wear either.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PVIY3NBCZJAJNFWDBCWG2DMKL4 Jen R

      “Both approaches have their merits and drawbacks and the show has always veered back and forth between them (quite often due to the producers, we suspect), but in latter seasons, the cumulative judging style has become more prominent and obvious.”

      This is my main gripe with PR and has been for the past few seasons, especially since it went to Lifetime. Either it’s a week-to-week performance or it’s cumulative. Pick one, judges! What pisses people off is that the rules get changed so often and on a whim! I agree that the cumulative approach makes a bit more sense, since group challenges and other complications can lead people to have an off day once in a while. And consistent poor design shouldn’t be rewarded, just because the judges’ dream designer suddenly has an off day.

      My other gripe is the seeming lack of talent/ability in this year’s group, as well as the overabundance of blah fabric and color choices. I didn’t like Danielle’s top, but at least it was a spot of color in an otherwise dreary palette. Didn’t Anya say she liked print and color? I was expecting Ulli-like creations from her. What happened? 

      • Anonymous

        I agree. A season or two ago, I remember the judges, including Heidi, discussing eliminating someone. They specifically said, “do we want to see more from him?” and using that as criteria for their decision. As some other posters have said, the judges obviously flip-flop depending on their agenda at that moment.

    • Anonymous

      Did she design and make that cute little jacket that Kimberly’s model is wearing? Why in the hell isn’t her model covering up that ugly little tank with that fabu jacket?
      Did her own team sacrfice her?
      Because if her model was wearing that jacket, I think sweet face would still be in the competition.

      * PS 3 out of 9 of the HeidiKlumnewbalanceamazon.comcollection are made of silk. Odd that they harped of the fiber content of the tank, that’s all .

    • Anonymous

      While I agree that Anthony Ryan’s cumulative work as a whole thus far has shown more potential, he undoubtedly made the worst garment I’ve ever seen on the show last night, that abomination should have sent him home. I mean it had Nina, Michael, and even Heidi and the guest judge (and me) gasping in horror when the model turned around, Danielle’s just bored them, which isn’t as big an offense. Yes her outfit is dull, but I think it could be saved somehow, there is no saving Anthony Ryan’s rag. He is incredibly lucky that Nina and Michael tag team and basically go against everything this competition is against and contradict themselves more times than I can count. Remember during the Team Luxe challenge, Michael said its not about past history but what they’re looking at today, apparently not now, and they panned Viktor’s boxy shoulder pads black dress for being “current” not “forward” when they appointed last season’s winner for having a “current” and “on-trend” collection, now its not good to be current.

    • Anonymous

      While I agree that Anthony Ryan’s cumulative work as a whole thus far has shown more potential, he undoubtedly made the worst garment I’ve ever seen on the show last night, that abomination should have sent him home. I mean it had Nina, Michael, and even Heidi and the guest judge (and me) gasping in horror when the model turned around, Danielle’s just bored them, which isn’t as big an offense. Yes her outfit is dull, but I think it could be saved somehow, there is no saving Anthony Ryan’s rag. He is incredibly lucky that Nina and Michael tag team and basically go against everything this competition is against and contradict themselves more times than I can count. Remember during the Team Luxe challenge, Michael said its not about past history but what they’re looking at today, apparently not now, and they panned Viktor’s boxy shoulder pads black dress for being “current” not “forward” when they appointed last season’s winner for having a “current” and “on-trend” collection, now its not good to be current.

    • Anonymous

      While I agree that Anthony Ryan’s cumulative work as a whole thus far has shown more potential, he undoubtedly made the worst garment I’ve ever seen on the show last night, that abomination should have sent him home. I mean it had Nina, Michael, and even Heidi and the guest judge (and me) gasping in horror when the model turned around, Danielle’s just bored them, which isn’t as big an offense. Yes her outfit is dull, but I think it could be saved somehow, there is no saving Anthony Ryan’s rag. He is incredibly lucky that Nina and Michael tag team and basically go against everything this competition is against and contradict themselves more times than I can count. Remember during the Team Luxe challenge, Michael said its not about past history but what they’re looking at today, apparently not now, and they panned Viktor’s boxy shoulder pads black dress for being “current” not “forward” when they appointed last season’s winner for having a “current” and “on-trend” collection, now its not good to be current.

    • Anonymous

      You could also look at it in reverse: Hello Kitty has been boring but steady, and she’s never put such utter CRAP out on the runway as Anthony did last night.  Even that out of date stilts outfit was incredibly well tailored.  That Heidi was willing to send home a designer she’d actually picked for a win (and been overridden by Nina and Michael) says something, I think, about her approach to the show.  Bert was a complete asshole but I highly doubt that zapped Anthony of his design/sewing powers.  And if it did, he doubly deserved to be auf’ed.

    • Anonymous

      I think it says a lot about this season when there is not a single designer that I actually like!  Well…. maybe Becky.  I think she is nice and I loved her dress last week.  But no designer really stands out as being talented and likeable.  Where are the Mondos, or Christians or Seths?  Where is that ONE designer that induces me to swear to never watch PR again if they are eliminated?  This season, I just don’t care.

      • Anonymous

        me either. a totally forgetable crop.

    • Anonymous

      I think it says a lot about this season when there is not a single designer that I actually like!  Well…. maybe Becky.  I think she is nice and I loved her dress last week.  But no designer really stands out as being talented and likeable.  Where are the Mondos, or Christians or Seths?  Where is that ONE designer that induces me to swear to never watch PR again if they are eliminated?  This season, I just don’t care.

    • Sara__B

      Danielle made the awful green top, plus the black jacket and the  balloon shorts that went with them, right? The jacket alone should have saved her from the auf — it’s MUCH better than the gathered draped crotch-hugging diaper jumper Anthony made! Now it’s clear that it’s the body of work, not the results of the current challenge, that counts most.

      • Anonymous

        I thought Kimberly made the balloon shorts.

      • Anonymous

        I thought Kimberly made the balloon shorts.

    • Geno Boggiatto

      Poor Danielle. She seemed so fragile. The entirety of the show she looked like she was ready to cry at the drop of a hat.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jahna.peloquin Jahna Peloquin

        Yeah, but did you notice how she didn’t shed nary a tear when she was aufed or ever get emotional the entire run of the show? She is a tough cookie.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, and was gracious about having to leave.

          • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

            maybe she hated being there too. from watching these people episode after episode it makes it all the more obvious why someone as depressed as cecilia departed. i do wish shed’ve let julie stay– julie’s background mightve made her a tougher competitor amid the middle school malefactors. but maybe not.

            • Anonymous

              I got such a different vibe from Danielle than “sweet.”  Isn’t she the one who said “why am I back here” (in the stew room) in the 1st or 2nd episode, i.e., instead of being in the top 3 when she clearly wasn’t worthy?  That, and her insistence on doing the same old/same old blouses/fabrics gave me the “I’m above it all” vibe.  YMMV.

            • Anonymous

              I got such a different vibe from Danielle than “sweet.”  Isn’t she the one who said “why am I back here” (in the stew room) in the 1st or 2nd episode, i.e., instead of being in the top 3 when she clearly wasn’t worthy?  That, and her insistence on doing the same old/same old blouses/fabrics gave me the “I’m above it all” vibe.  YMMV.

            • Anonymous

              I read it differently. I believe that Danielle is just serious, quiet, skilled and yes, competitive. She very much wanted to be there. But her talent and ability wasn’t perhaps as well suited to the artificial nature of PR’s challenges and wonky judging. 

    • Anonymous

      Yes. But I’ll miss her sweet face.

    • Anonymous

      This was an easily justified auf. Boring and forgettable are the worst things a designer can be on this show (or at all), and Danielle is waaayyy forgettable and boring. I can see both sides of the judging issue. Why not keep in the designer who keeps you curious about his or her future designs? Anthony’s garment was atrocious, but at least he totally admitted it and knew where the issues were, and he attempted something in the right spirit.

    • Anonymous

      Heidi is being totally disingenuous, because if they really judged the designers on a week by week basis, Christian Siriano would have been auf’ed on that atrocious prom dress he did. Do they not remember past seasons???

      • Anonymous

        They are all so hypocritical.  There is no rhyme or reason because the producers have a hand (or, 10 hands) in it all.  They do whatever they think is best for the ratings…and THEN justify it however they can.  Christian was and is and always has been Weinstein’s money-maker golden child.  They saw that and likely knew right away that he would win the whole thing.  So however it would be, would be.

    • Anonymous

      I thought it was interesting that whereas in most episodes there’s a loser and a winner edit, there was room for neither this time around because of all the drama.  Poor Danielle didn’t really get her 15 minutes. 

      • Anonymous

        I was thinking the exact same thing!  They couldn’t even scrape together enough interesting footage to give her a loser edit.  

        From a reality show standpoint it’s a completely reasonable auf.  From a design competition standpoint, I take issue.  

        Even if the judging IS cumulative.  The stuff that Anthony has done that the judges liked the best, was also the most derivative, which they told him.  I liked what Danielle did in the first 2 challenges better than either of his looks and thought her’s were unfairly overlooked.  So that puts them even steven, in my book as far as previous work.  Judging just from this challenge, yes the chiffon henley was silly, but the jacket looked interesting, and its not like she went off on a stubborn “I MUST work with chiffon!” diva tear (because surely the producers would have shown us that).  She was on a team, of which she was not the leader.  And as Heidi(?) or Nina(?) pointed out, if the tank had been paired with the jacket, it could easily have slipped under the radar.  Meanwhile, back at the Anthony Ryan camel ranch, we had a completely unwearable in public disaster.  And he was the team leader of a clearly dysfunctional team.  I don’t think Danielle has what it takes to make it to the final 3, and she was going to get auf’ed eventually, but last night, she was a fall Kitty for the producers, plain and simple.

        And don’t even get me started about the judges (/producers) going out of their way to reward Josh M’s hideous behavior with a win.  I haven’t been so outraged by a win in an almost pointlessly subjective competition since Marisa Tomei won the Oscar for My Cousin Vinny, beating out Miranda Richardson, Vanessa Redgrave, Joan Plowright and Judi Davis.

        • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

          agreed, totally.

          i would really like an explanation of why they handed the overdone creep a co-win. cos he didnt design the garment, he didnt make the garment, he was incapable of leading a team &, clearly, the only thing he did better than the others is run. & he’s a cheap little prick. so where, as they once said, is the beef?

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TRYUOEZZC2IVUO24TCJMVTDNSU Gianni Rubino

            I just assumed the double win was merely so that Heidi Klum could have two looks for New Balance.  I do not think it was because it was as great as Viktor’s.  Am I missing something?  (Be sweet!)

            I am still pissed that Clinique Counter’s won for Anya’s design and Becky’s work.  THAT ain’t right.

            Gianni Rubino

    • Anonymous

      mr. one ball can go home any time. all of his previous garments have been knock offs (i have that striped tank with lace, got it at a mall store; and the gucci  ripoff was poorly constructed). if i have to hear him say “me and laura” or “it don’t make no  sense” one more time i will scream. wtf is with these highly uneducated people. i am totally back in bert’s corner. if i had to hear the idiots 20hrs a day for weeks i tell them to %&*# off too. 

    • Anonymous

      mr. one ball can go home any time. all of his previous garments have been knock offs (i have that striped tank with lace, got it at a mall store; and the gucci  ripoff was poorly constructed). if i have to hear him say “me and laura” or “it don’t make no  sense” one more time i will scream. wtf is with these highly uneducated people. i am totally back in bert’s corner. if i had to hear the idiots 20hrs a day for weeks i tell them to %&*# off too. 

      • Anonymous

        When he can’t do a knock-off, you get the morceau de merde he sent down the runway this week.  Not seeing the talent.

    • Anonymous

      In theory I agree with cumulative judging, but Anthony’s outfit last night was so terrifying that I wouldn’t have been satisfied with any punishment short of the death penalty. When he was watching his outfit go down the runway and said “I sent a pair of gym shorts down the runway”, I blurted out “Oh honey, they weren’t THAT nice!”

    • http://twitter.com/ShelfAfterlife Shelf Afterlife

      Project Runway: One week you win, the next…was Kimberly even in this episode?  This season is just crazy beyond belief and I definitely don’t have a favorite.  It’s just turning into who I hope DOESN”T win.  They need to quit changing the show to keep it “fresh” ’cause it’s stale as a year old doughnut.  

    • Anonymous

      The third week for the boring green choice.  She really needed to change up her game and didn’t do it.  I completely agreed with the judges choice.

      • Anonymous

        third week to us; probably the third or fifth DAY for Danielle. But the stilt top wasn’t really green. Clearly Danielle is partial to the blues and greens, and to the use of light fabrics. In what might have been all of a week and half of actual production time on the show, she may have simply gone with colors that she felt complemented her model’s coloring and she felt comfortable with.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAMNQMUGFM4NNSPAQLZRODSD5I Angela

      Ooooh, this sounds like a great challenge idea! Take all the contestants out to “celebrate” the first night, then make ‘em sew! The best designer barf bag wins!!!
      Remember, drunk crafts are not junk crafts!

    • Anonymous

      A great illustration of why PR needs new judges.  Heidi took out her annoyance at the Dynamic Duo by awarding a total prick a double win.  I would have rather they eliminated both of the bottom designers (Danielle just doesn’t have a tv personality regardless of any skills she has) and just had Viktor win.  Everything but Viktor’s win was a clusterfuck.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed. I seriously thought this was going to be a double elimination challenge because AR and Danielle were both so awful and Viktor was clearly the winner.

    • Anonymous

      I have to give Bryce a bit of the blame here. He was team leader and had no business letting her go with the green chiffon. It had no relation to the rest of the collection. If they wanted a pop of colour there were lots more complementary options than her chiffon obession. And she was such a milktoast that it probably wouldn’t have taken too assertive a “no” to get her to pick another fabric.

    • Anonymous

      I have to give Bryce a bit of the blame here. He was team leader and had no business letting her go with the green chiffon. It had no relation to the rest of the collection. If they wanted a pop of colour there were lots more complementary options than her chiffon obession. And she was such a milktoast that it probably wouldn’t have taken too assertive a “no” to get her to pick another fabric.

    • Anonymous

      I think if Michael and Nina had phrased it differently–using the question they used to use all the time–Heidi might not have been so (fake?) shocked.  The question, “do we want to see more from this designer?”  This is very important.  Anthony Ryan has done some interesting things before, and not totally predictable.  Danielle was a one-trick pony of grandma dinner blouses.  They were more interested to see what he would do next, and confident that they had seen what she had to offer.

      AR’s was definitely worse–looked like he was told he had to make a garment from a rectangle, only by cutting holes and stapling–but hers was really sad, and sad in the same way all her others had been.  She seems sweet, but we all know she was not finalist material.  Anthony Ryan may be, and serious contenders (think Siriano, Mondo, etc) always get that one f-up and second chance.

    • Anonymous

      I love Heidi but she was full of it last night.  I have watched every season of this show and the judges routinely overlook WTF moments from otherwise good designers.  Last night was no different EXCEPT that MK and Nina disagreed with Heidi’s choice for the auffing.  Danielle needed to go.  If she couldn’t let go of chiffon for an athletic wear competition, Lord knows what she would have done on an outer wear challenge. Chiffon mittens anyone?  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TRYUOEZZC2IVUO24TCJMVTDNSU Gianni Rubino

        Thank you for the hilarious visual.  I’ll be thinking of chiffon winter wear all day — a ski hat, gloves, a scarf, etc.   =o)

        Gianni Rubino

    • Anonymous

      I think that looking at the overall work is a better gauge than one flash-in-the pan win or one head-scratching disaster.

    • Anonymous

      I think the larger issue was the inappropriateness of her fabric. Chiffon. For this challenge. Really. Even though his garment was bad, at least it was in the ballpark of something that might have worked. Not only was she not in the ballpark, she wasn’t even in the same city as the ballpark. 

    • Anonymous

      She seemed very sweet, but that top was so very limp and sad. I’m glad she’s getting away from this catty crew.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      neither one of them can design. she’s a better seamstress, he’s hopelessly derivative. i think danielle’s got a decent department store in-house designer career ahead of her. when she grows up, cos she needs to. i dont know what he has ahead of him. something, i guess. i dont wanna see more from either of them, frankly–but, in truth, even more: i dont wanna see more of most of these people. he & she are not the worst in that department, not hardly.

    • Anonymous

      I just want to remind everyone that Michael and Nina fawned endlessly over Danielle’s stilt walker’s green chiffon top.  And Cecilia’s pants.  They freaking loved that freaky 80’s outfit from hell!   If she had been styled differently they might have one that round. 

      Having said that, Danielle’s top sucked ass this week. 

    • Anonymous

      As one of the (comparatively few, I assume) straight male PR fans, I have to say I’m disappointed to see the cute, mousey hipster girl go. Can’t argue with it though. Can’t argue with it.

    • http://www.madamovarypart2.blogspot.com madam ovary

      Can we sent in viewer emails or insults for the reunion show?  That’s how done I am – I just want to spend the next few weeks planning some cutting brilliant question/insult for Josh to answer on the reunion show.  Josh, does Becky remind you of your mom?  Josh, what soap operas did you watch growing up when your mother was ignoring you?  Is that where you got your idea of how to treat people?  Josh, Can Becky hire you for her small business when your sugar daddy kicks you to the curb and you’re broke?  Josh…
      LIke I said, I need a life…

    • Anonymous

      Her Chiffon-obsession was unfortunate. By the way PR Australia is 10 times better and much less “The Real World with sewing”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TRYUOEZZC2IVUO24TCJMVTDNSU Gianni Rubino

        YES !!!   Episode eight had a KILLER idea for a challenge.  I am SEW impressed (as they would write on their Smart Board back at the apartment.)

        Gianni Rubino

    • Anonymous

      If its week by week then just have a one week season and proclaim a winner on the first challenge. Damn that was a lot of ugly to decide on.

    • Anonymous

      Well, first things first: despite claims to the contrary and Heidi’s protests, the judges don’t don’t base their opinions on the work sent down the runway in that challenge. But they don’t judge based upon the cumulative work of the season, either. Their decisions are based upon a combination of the imaginary versions of the designers that exist only in their heads and what the judges had for lunch that day.

      I agree with the cumulative judging ideal, though. But I’ve given up on expecting the judging to make any sense. It doesn’t. It never really did. The judging isn’t consistent across challenges – and there have been times when the judging wasn’t even consistent within the span of a single challenge.

      Farewell to Danielle. And may she take heart in not having to put up with this nonsense anymore.

    • http://www.nahuli.blogspot.com Anonymous

      I guess I always assumed they took all previous challenges into consideration, at least in the often used reasoning of “Do we want to see more from this person?”. That’s based on previous work clearly – and they often tell a guest judge something like “But he was amazing last week!”. It seems fairly clear that they take it into consideration a bit.

    • http://www.facebook.com/suzie.vazquez Suzie Vazquez

      I appreciate when they judge cumulatively. A designer or any person can have one bad day or one bad look. When that 1 look loses to a collection of mostly bad, it’s .. sad.

    • Anonymous

      First things first: despite claims to the contrary and Heidi’s protests, the judges do not judge based upon what the designers sent down the runway in that challenge – but neither do they judge based upon the designer’s past work and potential. They judge based upon a combination of the imaginary versions of the designers that exist only in their heads and what they had for lunch that day.

      In principle, while I appreciate the week-to-week approach, I’m tend to be for cumulative judging. I’ve given up on expecting the judging to make any sense – it doesn’t and it never really did. The judges haven’t been consistent over the life of the the show, they haven’t been consistent from challenge to challenge – and there have been times when they weren’t consistent within the time frame of a single challenge.

      But, farewell to Danielle. May she take heart in not having to put up with this nonsense.

      Oh, and I noticed that comments are disappearing left and right. I made quite a few last night that disappeared – incidentally, it seems to be any that I edited.

    • vmcdanie

      Anthony’s might have been worse but it’s close. And, as you say, he’s a contender and it’s pretty clear poor Danielle would be sending another variation of this outfit down the runway next week and the week after that. That top looks inside out for starters and also looks like it’s been washed one too many times and lost its shape. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/ehormell Eric Hormell

      I’ve always been a proponent of the judges doing whatever the hell they want, but I was siding with Heidi on this one. Not that I’m sad to see Danielle go.

    • http://fafafab.tumblr.com/ fafafab

      I agreed with this elimination, at some point I wasn’t sure who would be voted out but then I remembered her last outfit, and the one before it, she just keeps on using the same fabric, the same color, and basically the same design

    • Anonymous

      The one thing I really like in this season is that the producers noticed the positive reviews for s8’s finale judging.
      We don’t see boring deliberation now. We see Nina, Heidi and Michael argue over designers. I mean, every week. Every F*****ing week. The whole “oh, Heidi, you’re a model, for Christsake, stop talking like you know anything about fashion” judging from either Nina or Michael is going to get old.
      What ? Guest judge ? Who ? There was one, this week ? I didn’t notice.
      So drama everywhere, every five minutes, what’s up next ? Possessed childrens vomiting peas soup over the runway ?

    • Anonymous

      I think the glee Bert showed during the critique may have actually helped Anthony.

    • Anonymous

      I think the glee Bert showed during the critique may have actually helped Anthony.

    • Anonymous

      (Let’s hope this comment doesn’t get eaten, again. Also, that Disqus doesn’t later regurgitate the other two variations of it that have disappeared.)

      Despite comments to the contrary and Heidi’s protests, the judges don’t judge based upon what is sent down the runway in that challenge – but neither do they judge based upon prior work and potential. No, they judge based upon a combination of the imaginary versions of the designers that exist only in their heads and what the judges had for lunch that day.

      In theory, I tend to support the cumulative judging ideal, but I’ve given up on expecting the judging to make sense. It doesn’t. It never really did: how many times by rights should Wendy have gone home? Santino? Angela? Vincent? They’ve given us no reason to expect consistency across seasons. The judging isn’t consistent from challenge to challenge – there have been times when the judging wasn’t even consistent within a single challenge.

      But farewell to Danielle – and may she take heart in not having to deal with this nonsense anymore.

    • Anonymous

      (Let’s hope this comment doesn’t get eaten, again. Also, that Disqus doesn’t later regurgitate the other two variations of it that have disappeared.)

      Despite comments to the contrary and Heidi’s protests, the judges don’t judge based upon what is sent down the runway in that challenge – but neither do they judge based upon prior work and potential. No, they judge based upon a combination of the imaginary versions of the designers that exist only in their heads and what the judges had for lunch that day.

      In theory, I tend to support the cumulative judging ideal, but I’ve given up on expecting the judging to make sense. It doesn’t. It never really did: how many times by rights should Wendy have gone home? Santino? Angela? Vincent? They’ve given us no reason to expect consistency across seasons. The judging isn’t consistent from challenge to challenge – there have been times when the judging wasn’t even consistent within a single challenge.

      But farewell to Danielle – and may she take heart in not having to deal with this nonsense anymore.

    • http://naturallyeducational.com/ CandaceApril

      My mom missed the first 10 minutes of the episode and so I spent about an equal amount of time convincing her that Danielle is not Cecelia.

      I think there is a hairline of difference between looking at two auf-able outfits and saying, which one shows more promise (ie: “From whom do we want to see more?”) and looking at one outfit that is definitely bad and another that is indefensible in it’s design, planning, and execution…AND boring to boot (not just an interesting failure).

      I agree that I’ve always assumed they took cumulative efforts into account, especially in the early middle of the season, but this was far more obvious and upfront than ever before.

      That said, I expected her gone soon so now or later makes little difference to me!

    • Anonymous

      but to judge her for the top only is a crime.  Didn’t she design the signature piece of the collection – the jacket?  Yet, she got absolutely no credit for it.  When Kimberly’s look came out I was impressed and thought “wow, she’s really hitting her stride.  Look at that jacket.”  but then I find out she designed the lackluster shorts and 1/2 the losing look.  It seems really unfair she received absolutely no credit for it with the twins (NinaKor).  Anthony Ryan’s look was BEYOND ugly.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F3HKIK7MIJMBDAQBDWEAQDTXUM theneva

      “The second we saw her in that Hello Kitty headband, we knew it was over.”

      Funnily enough, I once said that about a blind date.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M2PXKBMV7NJBBEXEL2KHAO2UU4 Martha Stickle

      Eh.  I would suggest that this outfit is actually less legitimate than Anthony Ryan’s.  His may have been dreck, but at least it was “athletic” in some sense.  (I have seen women work out in very similar getups in a lot of environments.)  Danielle’s look, by contrast, seemed almost designed to push all the wrong buttons, to announce a certain hostility even in her own attitude–from the monotonous material to the monotonous color choice (does chiffon only come in candybox green and turquoise?) to the fact that, yet again, she sent office clothes down the runway.  If last week we had Nina’s assistant, and before that we had Jane Fonda in a mashup of 9 to 5 and Land of the Giants, this week we had casual Fridays in the typing pool at the Oklahoma Beef Council.  She kind of doomed herself, I think, with a cluelessness infused with a somewhat overconfident opinion of herself (“I can’t believe they’re not getting me”).  Becky got the “dowdy” label, but Danielle deserved it.

      On the other hand, the episode was a travesty from beginning to end.  I was appalled by the race, which was so utterly sexist as to demand a letterwriting campaign by itself(!), and I loathe Josh (M and C)–the one for being such a monstrous parody of a human being, the other one, the Mormon queen, for being selected over Julie.  Unfairness of an unusually (because intentionally) cruel sort was on the table from the outset, souring the whole enterprise.  It was not PR’s finest hour.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_26QG22FL4HVT7ZA46F4EE4UEXY amyw

      She has an anthropologie style aesthetic, which has never gone very far in this show. They prefer edgier and more modern.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=693100793 Suzanne DiVasto Citere

      OMG HOW LATE AM I to this party?? From the first time I saw Kitty I thought of one thing…. *meep*
      Remember?? LMAO!