PR: Flo Don’t Do Clinique

Posted on August 31, 2011

Nothing sums up the cracktacular results of this episode than the fact that we’re discussing the winning designer’s actual look last, because the look for which he won the challenge was designed and sewn by someone else.

But first…

She’s totally Flo, the Progressive Insurance girl, isn’t she? We didn’t realize it until this episode.


She really didn’t deserve the bitchiness thrown her way this week, but she didn’t exactly puncture the charge that her work is dowdy, did she?

If you can call a tank top and tight miniskirt “dowdy,” that is. And guess what? We can. She managed it.


The main problem with this look is that it’s so dated. Too “Spice Girls.” The styling didn’t help.



And that top is sad and unflattering. The straps were an interesting idea but the length killed it. The skirt’s a bit NASCAR.


We’re going to get killed for this, but Josh really did have a valid concern about her work. He expressed it terribly and we question whether it should have been openly expressed at all, but the fact remains that Becky’s work has been, at best, competent. She hasn’t really produced anything particularly stylish or innovative. We won’t hold this up as the final example of her talent since it’s clear she produced it under duress, but it’s pretty much of a piece with most of her work so far.

We think the one thing that sold Josh’s look is the one piece New Balance would never produce.


Namely, that vest.


The judges loved it more than we did but we have to admit, it does a good job of bumping up a tank top and pair of shorts. The problem would have been in the manufacturing of it, not to mention it was a bit too fussy and fashion-y for something like New Balance.


The top and shorts are well made enough, although we don’t know what sewing he did since Becky was treated like a factory worker.

And the shorts are pretty cute, we have to admit. Much better use of the stripe pattern than Becky’s skirt.


Enh. We’re talked out over the whole thing. New Balance probably wanted Anya’s maxi dress because it would be cheap to produce and the producers wanted to ham-fistedly give the win to Josh because they knew it would induce ragegasms on the internet. So the whole thing came down to people other than the judges giving the win to someone for reasons other than designing the best look. Forces outside the judging panel have been influencing the decisions on this show since day one; we just hate when they’re so clumsy about it.

 

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  • http://korilian.livejournal.com/ korilian

    Wasn’t Josh the guy who’s looks oddly resemble what the judges are wearing? Check out his own shirt and compare it with that little cutout vest.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

    Hm, I remember Betty didn’t get to design anything, but was told to just sew??  And no, have you guys forgot how you praised her look last week (when she managed to make a chic dress out of that ugly fabric, and Anthony just bitched all the way and made a frumpy dress with the same ugly fabric)?  Or when she made that chic jacket for the stilt challenge?  You guys said she and Kimberly (who made the pants) should have won. 
    Becky isn’t exactly innovative, but I wouldn’t say she gave reasons for concerns of her work. 

    • Anonymous

      yes.  She has made some good stuff.  Selective amnesia mayber

    • Anonymous

      That jacket she made with Kimberly and her dress with that fabric were two of my favorite pieces this season. I guess I’m more dowdy than I thought. Hm. I am pretty dowdy.

  • Shawn Hill

    Love me some Progressive Flo!

    • Anonymous

      and Mad Men telephone operator!

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Yes! You have to look very closely to realize those characters are played by the same woman.

  • Anonymous

    Re Becky, I don’t know, guys, I’m still loving her because of the stilts jacket.  That was really cute and not dowdy.  And frankly I liked her pet store challenge dress, too.  I think this was dowdy fabrics and a stupid challenge.  God, the fabrics that they picked for a challenge to coordinate with denim or leather, so bad!

    • http://shuflies.blogspot.com catherine_sr

      Now that you and Euphory have pointed it out, I realized that Becky has actually done a much better job than a lot of the other contestants and that perhaps the reason she gets stuck with the dowdy label is that, bluntly, she’s not as conventionally attractive as some of her competitors and her personal fashion sense (the bleached hair, glasses and chunky choker-length necklaces) literally makes her look three decades older than she actually is. I’m guilty of this myself… making judgments about her portfolio based on her appearance, without actually referencing photos to see how she has actually done.

  • Brooke and Rich Quinn

    I’m sorry, that vest was awful, with no redeeming qualities.

    • Anonymous

      Hear, hear.  Right about when it came out on the runway, Josh was doing a voiceover about how innovative it was, but to me it looked like 80s dreck.

      • http://twitter.com/TMamBo Therese Bohn

         Josh looks like 80′s dreck! Dear God, the plastic skin, the Audrey Hepburn eyebrows, the Vaseline hair- Creeeepy!

        • Anonymous

          The vest serves no purpose whatsoever.

        • Anonymous

          His eyebrows were making me crazy.

    • Anonymous

      I got such a laugh when that vest came down the runway, because it’s such a People of Walmart item. Seriously, at least a few times a month “fashion challenged” women are featured on that website wearing pieces of clothing that are very similar to that vest. And the judges complemented it? Ugh, no…

  • Anonymous

    Josh actually designed “Becky’s” skirt per the extended judging, and Becky threw the top together to go with it. And she knew it was too short, but it was done at the last minute.

    You guys must be looking at a different body of work for Becky than I am. Her Petland dress was fun and colorful; her stiltwalker jacket was cool, and I loved the pop of lime green on the collar and the asymmetrical hem—and I’m not a big fan of asymmetry. And her Nina dress might not have screamed Nina, but it was interesting, well made, and again used little pops of color effectively. I would wear it if I were a tad younger.

    • Anonymous

      I agree about Becky’s previous entries. I think they have had a point of view, maybe not the most unique, but given the restraints of the challenges, I’ve been surprised she wasn’t higher up. How many of them keep repeating themselves (Anya and Josh at the top of the list). Becky really listens and responds. And it is that admirable quality (listening) that made her so vulnerable to the Evil Clinique.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Oddly, I thought her black-and-white dress did scream Nina–something about its cut and the diagonal accents reminded me strongly of the dress Nina actually wore for the stiltwalking challenge–I thought that was why it didn’t make the top three… they thought she was copying an existing look.

      I liked her  PetLand dress as well, and she did a great job on that jacket.  Can’t remember the pajamas look.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      Oddly, I thought her black-and-white dress did scream Nina–something about its cut and the diagonal accents reminded me strongly of the dress Nina actually wore for the stiltwalking challenge–I thought that was why it didn’t make the top three… they thought she was copying an existing look.

      I liked her  PetLand dress as well, and she did a great job on that jacket.  Can’t remember the pajamas look.

    • Anonymous

      Didn’t Tom & Lorenzo several times say how the look of a Designer can influence our perception of their body of work? I think Becky kind of looks like someone who isn’t very fashion-forward or trendy, so we/Tom & Lorenzo/the other designers/the judges might remember her as a dowdier designer than she actually is. She has done some cute (but not great stuff) and some ok stuff in my opinion. Not really super-trendy or avant-guarde but not really dowdy either.

      • Victoria Perry

        I kind of like her sense of style. It is sort of edgy 1950s secretary and it suits her. That probably explains why I like what she’s done so far.

    • Anonymous

      That top she “threw together” is the best thing up there.  Although it needs a sports bra under it, of course.

  • Anonymous

    Flo, really? 

    I’m still pulling for Becky, although that look is hiddy (more so than I remembered).  Pulling for Kimberly too.  Power to the thirty-somethings who know how to behave professionally!

    • Anonymous

      I had to double check that Kimberly was a thirty-something, she looks way younger than her age.

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      The models with the topknots remind me more of Flo than Becky. Becky reminds me of people from Portland.

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      The models with the topknots remind me more of Flo than Becky. Becky reminds me of people from Portland.

  • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

    Becky’s aesthetic is funkier and more off center than what this years show demands, which is blandly salable garments.  Though her stuff may not be on trend, its still has a market and that could and should be brought to bear.  Josh’s behavior towards her was insanely wrongheaded, prissily self absorbed queen that he is.  And giving him that win when Anya and Becky did the sewing and design work for the winning piece is, though to be expected, still utterly unfair and stupid in the bargain.

    • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

      Yes, I agree about her aesthetic. She looks like she’d rather wear vintage or her own designs than what’s considered fashionable. I see her as nerdy-cool. She reminds me a little of Garcia on Criminal Minds, which, by the way, is a compliment. But some people think she looks like the nice older woman who lives next door.

      Out of all of this season’s designers, Becky is one I’d go to if I wanted something custom made.

      • http://joyouslifesf.wordpress.com Kiltdntiltd

        I really like her aesthetic a lot.  I am perhaps a trifle out of step but I want fashion that is truly individual, based on one’s personal tastes and needs, not just on what is most able to SELL in big numbers.  We now live in a world where cottage designers can actually flourish.  There is less and less need really to obey the dictates of some people who do not know us and care about us even less.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          Exactly. I think it goes back to Tom and Lorenzo’s comment that fashion and style are two different things. It’s not that I’m anti-fashion, but I do pay more attention to what appeals to and looks good on me, and less attention to the fashion industry. It’s not geared towards me anyway. I’m in that dreaded 40-death demographic.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s hoping this is the last season to feature a New Balance challenge,  It’s always a disaster darlings.  That said, I love Josh’s shirt.  I think it would look great at the gym or yoga studio.   

    • Anonymous

      Heh, I know….these NB challenges actually make me NOT want to by New Balance…I feel like it’s somehow become a cheap and cheesy brand.

      And I still need new sneakers!

      • Shawn Hill

        Nikes are more “on trend” right now. :)

        • Anonymous

          The hell they are, not since Nike reunited with Michael Vick they’re not! 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_35OW6VJZLWTQDQHS4JLRTVC2JA Akumabunny

        Hate to sound preachy here, but NB is now the ONLY sneaker company left in America.  They provide much needed jobs here & pay a decent wage.  When you buy their shoes, you don’t have to worry about sweat shops & child labor.  True, their shoes could be more fashionable, but for them it’s more about function & performance over form.

      • Now I am The Bee

        Yep.  I wear NB becasue they carry the size and style I need.  But I hate the fact that they sponsor Heidi’s mediocre designs and these cracktastic challenges.  Here’s hoping they wise up next year and give up! 

      • Now I am The Bee

        Yep.  I wear NB becasue they carry the size and style I need.  But I hate the fact that they sponsor Heidi’s mediocre designs and these cracktastic challenges.  Here’s hoping they wise up next year and give up! 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

      I fear that as long as Frau Seal is working with New Balance that a NB challenge will rear its ugly head. Sigh.
      bitchybitchybitchy

  • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

    i actually havent much liked her work on the show but i think the work in her portfolio shows she’s talented.
    & the challenges have not exactly been ones that showcase the best of anyone’s talent. nobody’s work has been that good.
    i havent liked his work on the show either. it always looks as cheap as hers looks slightly staid &, maybe somewhat unbelievably, i prefer well done & staid to pretending at innovation but turning out chintz. & his portfolio is just the worst of all. he was chosen for the show based on his delight in showing up for pictures in underpants, & his lack of insight into those underpants, ie: that what he put in them to be photographed is unimpressively turned out {in a manner of speaking}.

    edited to add:
    i dont think she had much time to design anything, seeing as she was used as seamstress for the others while at least one of them edged her into depression.

    • Anonymous

      I love her portfolio and was left feeling unclean by Josh’s. Tight tops with briefs, trying to look sexy but just coming off as a desperate.

  • Anonymous

    Damn that first model needs to be careful. She could put an eye out with those nipples!

    I like Josh’s look better up close in the stills. Those shorts with the buckle and side stripe are cute. They almost look like mini chaps.

    Becky’s top is just a mess, but i’m reserving judgment on her work until I see a little bit more from her.

    • Anonymous

      I know. Either they turned down the AC, gave her some band aids or airbrushed her since in the line up picture, she appears to be nip-free.

    • http://twitter.com/londonpenguin Teresa MacDonald

      Becki’s top might have looked better if her model had been able to wear a bra. I mean, her nips are wall-eyed!

    • Anonymous

      Becky’s top is the ONLY thing I would buy.

    • Anonymous

      “She could put an eye out with those nipples!”  Have we used the term “Titscrepancy” yet this season?  This seems like the perfect opportunity.

    • Anonymous

      Not just nips, I can see her areolae! Tacky.

  • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

    That moth eaten vest! It’s up there with Other Josh’s holster-dickey, to be filed under “Not clothing, Accessory.” I hope that model got caught on every doorknob she passed by.
    Becky’s shirt = not flattering.
    I’ll say it again: Butt Ugly Fabrics.

  • Anonymous

    I think Becky is more nerdy than dowdy – nerdy hipster; you know, collecting rainwater, repurposing clothes from thrift shops, buying ethically sourced cupcakes. Not dowdy like mom jeans riding the casino bus.

    Anyway, that’s nitpicking. Or maybe just semantics. As for Josh, if he was the one who chose that hideous fabric for the tank top, he has no standing to question anyone else’s taste.

    And his eyebrows annoy me. Don’t ask me why. I had the same problem with Sam Donaldson. Between the toupee and the eyebrows, I could never concentrate on anything he was saying. Josh has got the same thing; with all the over-grooming, he might as well have a toupee (or a merkin on his head:)

    And don’t know who styled the hair, but the only thing missing from those hairdoos were scrunchies.

    –GothamTomato

    • Anonymous

      I’m right there with Miss Clinique’s eyebrows! They look painted on and he looks like a man-nequin. I can’t help but keep thinking he needs to be a contestant on RuPaul’s Drag Race with all that war paint on his face.

      • Anonymous

        HEY  – we can call him Manny Quinn – like Rose’s pretend BF/husband on Two and a Half Men!

        • Anonymous

          I’m there! It’s the floating head all those Macy’s mannequins have been missing!
          God, can you imagine walking into a store and seeing nothing but Manny Quinn faces staring at you intensely in the men’s selection? Or picking out makeup? Shudder!

      • Anonymous

        Suddenly a vision of Groucho Marx just popped up in my head.  Of course he used copious amounts of greasepaint on his eyebrows and upper lip.  He was a comedian thus in context his look was perfection.  What is Miss Clinique’s excuse?

    • Anonymous

      I’m right there with Miss Clinique’s eyebrows! They look painted on and he looks like a man-nequin. I can’t help but keep thinking he needs to be a contestant on RuPaul’s Drag Race with all that war paint on his face.

    • Anonymous

      Oh My God Gotham – I cracked up at the phrase “Mom jeans riding the casino bus.”   I am stealing this phrase and using it forever.  You have a new fan.  
      xo, BWGP

      • Anonymous

        love your picture, love your screen name

    • Anonymous

      I’m digging the “ethically sourced cupcakes.”

    • BerlinerNYC

      You hit the nail on the head, saying more or less what I wanted to say to someone upthread who thought Becky looked so much younger than 30-something. I’m 38, and I would have assumed she’s within a few years of my age. But I live in NY, where people look like that, so I’m not exposed on a daily basis to the prematurely aging looks of suburbia that people wear to (and buy at) Walmart.

      LMAO @ “ethically sourced” cupcakes.

      • Anonymous

        Get over yourselves, nobody is prematurely aging in suburbia!

        • Anonymous

          Now, now, let’s all remember the alternative to aging!  I am aging, although sadly there is nothing premature about it.  That said, I can be pretty darn stylish when I want to without a single trip to Mallwort.

    • BerlinerNYC

      You hit the nail on the head, saying more or less what I wanted to say to someone upthread who thought Becky looked so much younger than 30-something. I’m 38, and I would have assumed she’s within a few years of my age. But I live in NY, where people look like that, so I’m not exposed on a daily basis to the prematurely aging looks of suburbia that people wear to (and buy at) Walmart.

      LMAO @ “ethically sourced” cupcakes.

    • Lynn Landry

      Can someone verify that this is the first time “Sam Donaldson” was ever mentioned in any sort of fashion blog! LMAO!

      • Anonymous

        What?   You didn’t see the “WERQ” write-up he got last week?

  • Anonymous

    I think Becky decided the jump in with “designing” at the last minute (remember she suddenly heard what Tim said?) and so, with having the deal with Clinque-the-Terrible, what I am assuming was the dregs of the fabric to choose from, AND trying to design, that top is the sad result.

    What support garments are available for this models? Is it truly what they bring themselves, because maybe they should get Victoria’s Secret making a few additions to that Piperlime wall. The nipples on the model were almost at her armpits.  Nothing against the model, butthe odd boob-could-be-fixed-with-a-correct-bra situation happens frequently on the runway.  And there are bras that could help that situation.

    • Anonymous

      Agree on the support situation.  The top might have looked better when some.  Why does fashion hate bras so much?

    • Anonymous

      Agree on the support situation.  The top might have looked better when some.  Why does fashion hate bras so much?

  • Anonymous

    Becky made that fab jacket for the stilt-walking episode – so it’s not fair to say her work is dowdy – that jacket rocked!

  • Anonymous

    It’s not at all fair to agree with Clinique that Becky’s work is dowdy!  She made that rockin’ jacket in the stilt walker challenge.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      I’m kind of curious as to what was identified as dowdy, other than this entry.

      • Anonymous

        Clinique told her that all her work was dowdy.  He is such a bitch.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          Oh, yeah, I know… but that was kind of a blanket condemnation without identifying a single thing he meant as dowdy. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

    I really love Josh’s vest.  That’s about all I have to say about the clothes here.

    Maybe I’m crazy, but I wasn’t all that offended by Josh’s behavior.  Could it have been better and more effective? Yes.  Should it have been? Definitely.  But he didn’t drown kittens on national TV — he told a team member whose style he doesn’t like that he wanted her to stick to construction, which she is excellent at.  He didn’t want to go up there as the team leader and risk getting aufed for something she designed, and I kinda get that.  That is why I don’t work as well on a team; I don’t like being penalized for someone else’s bad work.  I don’t dislike her work so far, but he does, so why should he put himself in the position of being responsible for something he hates?  Choosing her for her construction skills because Anya has virtually none was a good call. 

    There was a way of handling that better, though.  He should have sat her down and explained that he didn’t feel her aesthetic could not be made to blend well with his, but that he really admired her construction skills which was why he wanted to work with her.  And that as the team leader, he was going to be on the chopping block if the work wasn’t cohesive, so he felt it was imperative to stick with his style rather than hers.  It would still have sucked for her, but it would have been a little nicer on his part. 

    This isn’t like grade school where everybody gets a ribbon, no matter how much their art project sucks — he has a right to try to protect himself.

    • Victoria Perry

      But he wouldn’t have been on the chopping block. She would be because “she just sewed.” Yes, she’s excellent and fast, but it wasn’t fair of him to pick her and then put her at risk. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        See, though, I don’t think that’s what he did — you have to step into the delusions in Josh’s head that tell him he’s a great designer.  If you can make that journey with him, the logic goes like this:

        I need another designer who I can work with and whose style compliments mine.  I pick Anya.
        Anya can’t sew, I need someone who can pick up that slack.  I pick Becky.
        I don’t like Becky’s work, so I don’t let her design.  She just sews.
        My vision is so brilliant that we’ll end up in the top and Becky will be safe with Anya, while I get the win.

        It’s only an issue of Becky “just sewing” if there’s a problem.  Out here in the real world, where Josh’s work isn’t all that great, Becky would be at risk.  But in the Josh-world (which is where he made his decisions from, after all) his stuff would be so wonderful that it wouldn’t matter.  And she’d get the high placement and glow from being near him… :)

        • Anonymous

          “if you can make that journey with him” – Oh I laughed!

          I’ve run into so many people in life whose behavior is absolutely reasonable if – and only if – you make that journey.  I’m getting tired of the travel.

          • Anonymous

            He was a hair’s breadth away from kitten-drowning nasty.  If they didn’t need Becky to do the sewing, she’d be in the river.

          • Anonymous

            I think he would drown kittens if he could use their pelts to create a cut-out vest.

        • Now I am The Bee

          Eggs-aaaaaaaaat-leeeee! 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

      I think people were offended exactly by his ways of handling it.  Last season Mondo took the lead in designing and Michale C mostly sew, but they made a good team, because Mondo was sensible and nice to Michael C.  Joshua M also designed most of the stilt challenge and Julie mostly sew.  But then they were a good team because they were civil to each other and he even showed her some new techniques. 
      So I don’t know what turned him into a raging byatch this time.  He said some bitchy stuffs behind Julie’s back but he acted professionally with her while they were doing work.  Maybe all that fume from hair gel (so 2001!) and makeup on his face caught up on him.  Or maybe he really was afraid that Julie might punch him whereas Becky is so cuddly and an easier target.

    • JM Z

      I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t think any team leader in Project Runway has ever been eliminated if the only offense is another team member’s bad look. Case in point, Bryce. Danielle’s outfit was poop. Danielle got the auf. This is a design competition. They’re all there to show off their talent. Josh M, while he didn’t murder baby animals, was shockingly disrespectful of Becky from the word go. He had no right to essentially ban her from using the design skills that got her into the competition, preventing her from having any chance at winning the challenge. That was ridiculous. I felt awful for Becky, who didn’t want to rock the boat and had no one on her side.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Oh, absolutely handled wrong, I have no qualms with that.  He could have handled it in a much, much nicer way, still gotten what he wanted, and not made her look bad in front of her peers. 

        But there have been times when a leader has been on the chopping block because of his team — the theory being that it was the leader’s job to fix the problems. 

        • Anonymous

          there have been times when a leader has been on the chopping block
          because of his team — the theory being that it was the leader’s job to
          fix the problems.

          Which is exactly why he should have been called out, rather than rewarded (for what, I still can’t fathom).  If it’s the leader’s job to fix the problems, then it’s obvious that he doesn’t know how to do that.  Insulting and denigrating a team member is exactly the way to cause problems, not solve them.  And cause them, he did.  How much time did the three of them waste dealing with the drama he created?  They might have turned out some decent garments if they’d spent the time working instead.

          • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

            absolutely.

        • JM Z

          Leaders have been on the chopping block for tension and ugliness in the team dynamic and for crappy collections with bad clothing and no direction. Not, as I recall, for two reasonably cohesive outfits and one outlier.

        • JM Z

          Leaders have been on the chopping block for tension and ugliness in the team dynamic and for crappy collections with bad clothing and no direction. Not, as I recall, for two reasonably cohesive outfits and one outlier.

        • JM Z

          Leaders have been on the chopping block for tension and ugliness in the team dynamic and for crappy collections with bad clothing and no direction. Not, as I recall, for two reasonably cohesive outfits and one outlier.

        • JM Z

          Leaders have been on the chopping block for tension and ugliness in the team dynamic and for crappy collections with bad clothing and no direction. Not, as I recall, for two reasonably cohesive outfits and one outlier.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      No one on that team deserved a ribbon.  The problem was the flat mysogyny in Josh’s approach.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Oh horseshit — it wasn’t misogyny just because Becky happened to come with two X’s instead of an XY.  Misogyny requires VIOLENCE (in word, thought or deed) against women BECAUSE of their gender.  There was no threat of violence nor any implied, which would bring it down to sexism.  And since it was based on his perceptions of Becky and her work — NOT her gender — it’s not even that!  We saw him work perfectly well with Anya, after all. 

        Mean, petty, spiteful, mistaken… all those apply.  Misogyny does not.

        • Anonymous

          Misogyny does not require violence.  The word simply means “woman-hating”.

        • scottyf

          If I’m not mistaken, misogyny is defined as the hatred of women. While it often manifests itself in violence, I don’t think it has to include such to qualify Watch Joshua’s body language with Becky–especially when he goes after her with the dowdy crap. He leans over her–gets into her personal space and doesn’t let up. Some would see that as a very intimidating move. Then watch him with Bert. He gets whatever he left at the station Bert is using, but it’s not until he has machines in between him that he attacks. In my opinion, that is cowardly behavior. Goes in close with women, keeps his distance with men…hmmmm.  I work HARD to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this guy has truly exhibited some text book women-hating behavior.

        • scottyf

          If I’m not mistaken, misogyny is defined as the hatred of women. While it often manifests itself in violence, I don’t think it has to include such to qualify Watch Joshua’s body language with Becky–especially when he goes after her with the dowdy crap. He leans over her–gets into her personal space and doesn’t let up. Some would see that as a very intimidating move. Then watch him with Bert. He gets whatever he left at the station Bert is using, but it’s not until he has machines in between him that he attacks. In my opinion, that is cowardly behavior. Goes in close with women, keeps his distance with men…hmmmm.  I work HARD to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this guy has truly exhibited some text book women-hating behavior.

          • BuffaloBarbara

            Don’t need to add anything to that response, actually.  I hadn’t thought about the personal space issue,  just the attitude, but you’re right.  That was distinctly intimidating, and I think it would have taken me a lot of strength to not shove him and scream “Get back!”

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Alright, I can see that — I’ll give you the body language.  I never notice that kind of thing — mainly because I have no self-preservation instincts. 

        • scottyf

          If I’m not mistaken, misogyny is defined as the hatred of women. While it often manifests itself in violence, I don’t think it has to include such to qualify Watch Joshua’s body language with Becky–especially when he goes after her with the dowdy crap. He leans over her–gets into her personal space and doesn’t let up. Some would see that as a very intimidating move. Then watch him with Bert. He gets whatever he left at the station Bert is using, but it’s not until he has machines in between him that he attacks. In my opinion, that is cowardly behavior. Goes in close with women, keeps his distance with men…hmmmm.  I work HARD to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this guy has truly exhibited some text book women-hating behavior.

        • scottyf

          If I’m not mistaken, misogyny is defined as the hatred of women. While it often manifests itself in violence, I don’t think it has to include such to qualify Watch Joshua’s body language with Becky–especially when he goes after her with the dowdy crap. He leans over her–gets into her personal space and doesn’t let up. Some would see that as a very intimidating move. Then watch him with Bert. He gets whatever he left at the station Bert is using, but it’s not until he has machines in between him that he attacks. In my opinion, that is cowardly behavior. Goes in close with women, keeps his distance with men…hmmmm.  I work HARD to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this guy has truly exhibited some text book women-hating behavior.

        • scottyf

          If I’m not mistaken, misogyny is defined as the hatred of women. While it often manifests itself in violence, I don’t think it has to include such to qualify Watch Joshua’s body language with Becky–especially when he goes after her with the dowdy crap. He leans over her–gets into her personal space and doesn’t let up. Some would see that as a very intimidating move. Then watch him with Bert. He gets whatever he left at the station Bert is using, but it’s not until he has machines in between him that he attacks. In my opinion, that is cowardly behavior. Goes in close with women, keeps his distance with men…hmmmm.  I work HARD to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this guy has truly exhibited some text book women-hating behavior.

        • scottyf

          If I’m not mistaken, misogyny is defined as the hatred of women. While it often manifests itself in violence, I don’t think it has to include such to qualify Watch Joshua’s body language with Becky–especially when he goes after her with the dowdy crap. He leans over her–gets into her personal space and doesn’t let up. Some would see that as a very intimidating move. Then watch him with Bert. He gets whatever he left at the station Bert is using, but it’s not until he has machines in between him that he attacks. In my opinion, that is cowardly behavior. Goes in close with women, keeps his distance with men…hmmmm.  I work HARD to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this guy has truly exhibited some text book women-hating behavior.

        • BuffaloBarbara

          Since when does misogyny require violence?  It’s just the attitude of hating women.  If it gets to violence, it’s way beyond misogyny and into actual criminal behavior.

        • Anonymous

          He gets along with Anya because she’s a pretty little ornament to him who looks good at his side.  Just because he doesn’t want her sexually doesn’t mean he doesn’t want beautiful women around him to validate him.  If she weren’t goregous he’d have been all over her lack of experience and sewing skills.

          • Anonymous

            Well said rose88 .Josh  wants “pretty” next to him to accentuate his pretty self. If he put as much time and effort into desiging as he does to his hair and makeup he might just come up with something worth calling fashionable.

  • Anonymous

    Well, they showed Anya and Josh putting the kaboosh on any fabric choices Becky offered so I’m pretty sure that Josh made most of the fabric choices with input by Anya.

  • Anonymous

    This challenge resulted in the worst collection of drab and dreary looks I’ve ever seen on this show.  Honestly, if I’d been a judge, I’d have said, “you’re all out!” and sent them back to try again.

    • Anonymous

      I think the lingerie challenge in season2 was worse.

    • Anonymous

      I think the lingerie challenge in season2 was worse.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know about that.  There was some godawful stuff on the runway, true, but it wasn’t all drab and dreary, like this bunch.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HREPOWNBVUBRIVPQCF3ST2IKDM Euphory

        It certainly wasn’t boring.  Santino’s stuffs there were horrifying but still very interesting (in a horrifying way).  And there were some good pieces from that challenge.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        No, because at least the lingerie collection yielded some truly bizarro shit — this was just boring and ugly.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        No, because at least the lingerie collection yielded some truly bizarro shit — this was just boring and ugly.

  • Anonymous

    “And she did. It doesn’t really scream Nina in any way; in fact, we can’t imagine her wearing this at all, but it’s sharp and stylish.”  TLo’s words re the nina challenge.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Gotham T, I’ve been saying for weeks he has Michelle Bachman eyes and Joan Crawford eyebrows. Just like Bert’s hair, they are so distracting! (And now I’ll go to Time Out for saying mean things about someone’s appearance — although honestly, he plucks his eyebrows that way, I can critique Clinique for a fashion choice he makes, can’t I?)

  • Anonymous

    I feel like I’ve used up more oxygen on Madame Tussaud than he deserves.  Mark my words, “taste issues” will rear its ugly head before he can make it to the finish line.

    Hard to fault Becky for much of the design since she was told to shut up and sew this week.

  • scottyf

    Of course Joshua M is going to find Becky’s sensibilities dowdy. When you’re trained at the International Male School of Design what did you expect?

    However, if you gents are defining “dowdy” as lack of style and out of fashion, then I vehemently disagree. I think Becky has a very clear style and point of view. As folks have said, her additions to the stiltwaker challenge were commended by the judges and her use of the pigeon poo ombre far outshone Anthony R’s in the Nina challenge. I just think she has to assert her style much more strongly in her work–especially when partnered with Disney Villains.

    • Anonymous

      Agree. I wouldn’t call this dowdy. I’d call it other things, but not dowdy.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      especially when what he really thinks he is is a model for the ah! men catalog.

      {ps. i promise this is the last time i will mention something like that.}

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        No,no,no. I say keep at it. Your comments about Josh M. have been making me laugh  my ass off.

    • Anonymous

      Sing it Scotty. I have liked Becky’s workmanship and overall aesthetic much more than Brow Boy’s. It comes down to a matter of taste, but I wouldn’t use dowdy in connection with her work.

    • Anonymous

      disney villains! hahahahahahahahahahaha…*catches breath*…hahahahahahahahahaaa. josh  certainly has the eyebrows for it.

      • Anonymous

        Cliniqua DeVille!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6BDDQFF22SPECYW2E7EH3KP7D4 Evergreen G

      I totally agree with you. Nothing in Becky’s garment speaks of her aesthetic. She was relegated to a sweat shop worker. Love the International Male reference. That’s exactly it…Josh’s designs look like they were ripped off the pages of that catalog and transformed into women’s garments. He himself personifies the look and really, “ewww ” fits a good description of those cothes.

  • Anonymous

    Just a random observation that Clinque’s model looks like she’s holding a cigarette in the third picture of her.

    And let me echo the chorus questioning the quality of this season’s models. From the build up over the years to the special 30 min. show just on the models from a few seasons back to this sordid crop, the producers clearly have given up (or the model pool has gotten wise since they make like nothing to do this show).

    But I simply can’t comment on Josh or Becky’s work. The drama from last week has clouded my ability to reason about their talent or designs from the week.

  • Anonymous

    I really can’t say much because every time I think of this episode I seethe. Clinique’s shorts look much more interesting in the stills than they did on the runway, while Becky’s top is sad, sad, sad. I really want to tell her model that bras are her friend -.-

    But if I’m completely honest, it all sucks. The colours are depressing, there are no design details that pop out and bring the looks alive, and it’s all really really dull. I’m a bit scared of what tomorrow will bring.

  • Anonymous

    Becky’s top would have been fine if it were longer. The skirt seems to be more Josh’s concoction than hers. After all, he must have chosen the blue stripe fabric as his original dress was one slated by Nina for his usual one large panel in the middle and two down the side which he then decided to ditch. He also HAD to bedazzle everything with the red striped tape. It’s really difficult to judge Becky in this episode as it seemed like she was 95% seamstress and 5% designer.

  • http://opinionandamovie.blogspot.com/ Deitra S.

    Sorry commentariat, I must agree with my two dads: Becky has au’f fodder written all over her even though Joshua M. has all the subtlety and tact of a jackhammer.  And can we address that every, single garment she makes (where she has input & free will) contains green?  What the frack is up with that?  Even the time she & Anthony Ryan had the same fabric she used green piping as an accent.  I’m not sure what this obsession with green is, but I’m surprised the judges haven’t picked up on it and raked her over the coals for it.  I guess it’s because she’s almost never in the top or bottom. She just lives in that lower middle waiting to be dismissed.

    • scottyf

      The piping in her dress for Nina was yellow.

    • jfsnyder

      Um. The piping was yellow not green.  Are you perhaps thinking of Danielle; she seems to go to green and chiffon with every challenge.

    • http://opinionandamovie.blogspot.com/ Deitra S.

      I thought it looked a bit more lime green.  It’s definitely got some yellowish-green tones.  It’s just a weird habbit with her – but, yes, with Danielle, too who seemed to use practically the same fabric every week.

  • Anonymous

    Becky and Kimberly were the only competitors to come up with something fashion forward for a freakin’  stilt walker!  After pulling that off I’m a little shocked that you would say she hasn’t come up with anything stylish or innovative.  Madame Clinique Fashion Icon turned his stilt walker into a hideous matador with stumpy little arms.  I believe that Becky was too flustered and upset to come up with a good design last week, but she’s one to watch on a season with pitifully few decent designers.   

  • Anonymous

    I never saw Becky’s stuff as DOWDY. That’s a word I reserve for potato-sack dresses in weird drab colors. And she didn’t choose the fabrics for this challenge – Bitchface & Beauty Queen did. So I let Becky off the hook entirely for this challenge, design-wise. She didn’t play the game well – listening and trying to cooperate is NEVER the way to get ahead on PR – but in terms of style or design, this is a by week for Becky.  And that awful, awful moment when Bitchface tried to backpeddle and say that “dowdy” wasn’t an insult, just a neutral descriptor? Yeah. Nice try. Merriam-Webster online offers these definitions: “not neat or becoming; shabby” and “lacking smartness or taste” and “old-fashioned.”  DOWDY is the sad home-sewn all-of-a-kind dresses worn by mennonites and amish women. And while we’re on the subject of lacking in smartness or taste, I think Bitchface can take home the Bedazzler Award for Most Questionable Taste.
    And the revolting, nauseating ageism on display last week was really unpleasant. Does Lifetime KNOW the ages of the people who watch their channel??

    • Anonymous

      Yep – what you said. Also, I think one of the judges said if Becky’s top had been a couple inches longer it would’ve worked and I totally agree. I don’t think her outfit was dowdy at all given the circumstances. I give her a by this week as well, and hope she learned a valuable lesson about PR competition and really brings it from now on.

    • Rebecca Zmarzly

      “Merriam-Webster online offers these definitions: ‘not neat or becoming;
      shabby’ and ‘lacking smartness or taste’ and ‘old-fashioned.’  DOWDY is
      the sad home-sewn all-of-a-kind dresses worn by mennonites and amish
      women.”

      You mean like Olivier’s skirt? If ANYONE in the room should have had their garments termed “dowdy” this week, it was definitely Precious Moments.

  • Susan Crawford

    I have a dream. A dream about Heidi, baby. And that is that she gets a memo from God to stop whoring out her own ventures in the form of PR challenges, particularly those requiring (a) track and field events; (b) sweatshirt or t-shirt materials; (c) visits to the workroom. It’s only a dream that will never come true, since the Kluminator Machine rolls on like a Sherman tank of branding.

    Am I the only one who thinks Josh belongs on The A-List NY? I think he would fit right in with Derek – they could compare makeup tips, roll their eyes, and meet for drinks at empty bars all over Chelsea.  Poor Progressive Lady – used as sweatshop labor, dissed and forced into a bathroom stall to weep. But can she overcome the “dowdy” in her work? I don’t know, but I am rooting for her to suddenly snap out of it and create major wow factor. As for Anya – I’m keeping a close eye on that beeyotch. She’s playing the pageant game to perfection, but sooner or later she’s gonna blow, and when she does, she’s takin’ NO prisoners.

  • http://twitter.com/Jennifer_deG Jennifer de Guzman

    What I didn’t understand is when Josh called the vest “ethnic.” What does that even mean?

    • Anonymous

      Josh is an “ethnic” as a slice of white bread.  I think he feels that something with fringed aspect to it evokes a tribal look.  I just hate that guy.

    • Anonymous

      I guess it means that everyone who isn’t white and waxed always wear clothes with holes in them. Ethnic holes. You know, like the ones on his vest.

  • http://twitter.com/democracydiva Democracy Diva

    I tend to read your posts and respond with, “oh my god, I didn’t even know it before you said it but THAT’S SO TRUE!” The Flo reference (oh my god, she’s SO FLO), the Spice Girls comparison, NASCAR – all pitch-perfect references for Becky’s look.

    And for what it’s worth, I blogged similar sentiments about Josh: He wasn’t wrong to be concerned about Becky’s lack of design skills, but he WAS wrong in the way he treated her. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/gillianholroyd gillian holroyd

      Based on his portfolio posted at the (warning: crappy flash) Lifetime website, Monsieur Clinique is the last person who should be casting aspersions re taste/design. ”International Male” catalog is his metier. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/gillianholroyd gillian holroyd

      Based on his portfolio posted at the (warning: crappy flash) Lifetime website, Monsieur Clinique is the last person who should be casting aspersions re taste/design. ”International Male” catalog is his metier. 

  • Anonymous

    I think Becky has made cute and non-dowdy looks.  Her look last week was great, with the little pop of yellow piping, and she also made a chic jacket during the stilts walk.  I definitely don’t think her body of work has been less impressive than Josh’s, and arguably, it has been moreso.  ALSO, Josh’s form of expression was reprehensible, and under the circumstances, I thought she handled herself pretty damn well. 

  • Anonymous

    These two looks remind me of clinique’s look in the first challenge, the one with the bedsheets.  Of these three, Becky is the only one who is not sending out the same look every week.

    • Anonymous

      or being derivative and referential.

  • Anonymous

    Also, there is no way that she should be blamed for that terrible skirt. 

  • Anonymous

    My fault with makeup boy is not that I would say Becky’s clothes are the be all and end all (and his have not been much better) – but the DEMEANING & DEGRADING treatment of a FELLOW CONTESTANT on a Competition Reality show. 

    She is not YOUR slave – because you ran faster than her (and a bunch of other people). 

  • Anonymous

    and can we talk about the horrible hair styling?  the blonde in particular looks like she’s balancing a dinner roll on her head.
    also, the spice girls reference is perfect.  sporty spice lives!

    • Anonymous

      In the extended judging, Josh is criticized for the hairstyles and claims he trusted the Garnier crew to take care of the hair because he was too busy getting the clothes together. I think it’s THE FIRST TIME IN PROJECT RUNWAY HISTORY that someone has thrown the hairstylists under the bus.

    • Anonymous

      In the extended judging, Josh is criticized for the hairstyles and claims he trusted the Garnier crew to take care of the hair because he was too busy getting the clothes together. I think it’s THE FIRST TIME IN PROJECT RUNWAY HISTORY that someone has thrown the hairstylists under the bus.

  • Anonymous

    I just don’t understand why an outfit that shows your nips and butt cheeks is considered dowdy.  How ’bout ugly, in poor taste, repulsive, wretched, recycled ’90′s…. but dowdy??? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      It’s not dowdy because makeup britches designed it. Becky was the slave seamstress.

  • Anonymous

    To my eye Becky and Josh are on equal footing in terms of technical skill. Both have  design weaknesses , I would say Becky’s is to be a little too kooky crafty and Josh is to be too Liza Minelli (Jazz hands).
    Josh was a fool to alienate Becky. Dowdy (or not) Heidinewbalanceforamazon.com is not exactly high fashion.

    Neither placed in the 1st challenge.
    Josh plasced 3rd in the 2nd challenge, but Becky’s color pallet was similar to Josh’s.
    Becky placed in the 3rd challenge(group), Josh was on the bottom(group).
    4th challege their group is in the top. 
    Seems to me that their collective results on the show are fairly = too.

    ~~~~

    The two garments here are so similar to each other, they can hardly be separated. Didn’t Josh design both, and Becky just sewed the whole lot? Who knows? They are both ugly. The collection as a whole was 2nd best, but I don’t really like any of them.

  • Anonymous

    Hey! Little Boy

    Spray your tan,

    Fix your makeup!

    Soon there will be a new score.

    Don’t think because

    You have just won a challenge

    You needn’t try anymore.

     

    For winners should always try very hard

    Never let Nina write “BORED!” on her card

    I’m warning you…

     

    Day after day

    While you toil in the workroom

    Showing off all that you know,

    Don’t be an ass.

    Keep your eyes on your own work:

    Matching the Duchess’ glow.

     

    For winners should never be mean girls, too

    Miss Trinidad is not thinking ‘bout you.

    It’s time to sew…

    • Anonymous

      Hysterical!

      I had to scrounge around my memory banks, but with some help from You Tube, I was able to get the tune so I could sing these fabulous lyrics.

      For all of you Bitter Kittens who are not in the 40 to death demographic, this should be sung to the tune from “Wives and Lovers.”

      “Wives and Lovers.”

      Thanks, BB

      • Anonymous

        40-to-death demographic! PERFECT!

        • Anonymous

          Well, Clinque Counter flung this moniker as an insult to Becky last week, and I was really offended.

          But I think I’ve decided to defuse its power by using it as sassy descriptor instead.

          • Anonymous

            I  know – I remember very well!  Very assy of him.

          • Anonymous

            Happily in the 40-to-death demographic myself.  Not so bad, actually, ’cause I can skip the Clinique Counter if I want and people just don’t even notice anymore.  Tons less pressure, and if I *want* to go to the Clinique Counter, I do it for myself, not others anymore.  Lots of fun living in the to-death demo!

    • Now I am The Bee

      Thanks, Bomber!  Brilliant!  I’ll be sure to buy you a round at the TLounge this evneing.  BTW–since I’m in the 40-to-death demographic as well, I picked up the tune right away, though I never knew the name of it!  

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, you guys loved her jacket for the stiltwalker. And didn’t they all say Becky didn’t do any designing for this challenge? Becky even agreed the look sucked, and she did it under duress. I think it’s hard to hold her responsible for the design of any of this. given what we saw.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, you guys loved her jacket for the stiltwalker. And didn’t they all say Becky didn’t do any designing for this challenge? Becky even agreed the look sucked, and she did it under duress. I think it’s hard to hold her responsible for the design of any of this. given what we saw.

  • Amanda in Austin

    Hey, TLo. Just wanted you guys to know you are totally on your game with the nicknames this season. Love “Girl Sweater,” “Clinique Counter,” and all the rest. Keep up the great work!

  • Amanda in Austin

    Oh, forgot to mention. Becky’s dress for Nina wasn’t dowdy in the least!

  • Amanda in Austin

    I’m keeping an eye on Clinique Counter this week to see if he makes another outfit that’s directly reflective of something someone wears when they introduce the challenge…(Heidi, Nina, etc.)

  • Anonymous

    My hatred of Clinique clouds my judgment.  I notice that this season, with the initial misguided foray (myself included) into Team Bert  - there’s not really anyone to get behind.   With this bunch I keep thinking ‘Is this the best of the best?  Is this the cream of the crop of thousands to applied? Really?  This group?’  I just don’t understand.  None of them seem all that talented or creative this year.  Is this because the trends this year are just horrible and they are trying to stay current?  Or is it because I’m old or something and want something in which tailoring and line and cut and creativity count?  Or is it because the producers just cast the entire show with no eye to talent?  

    Ick.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q5FGRMBQVFFBMS53LVJ2FDICPU T

      so right!  i like becky and kimberly’s work but it’s lackluster.  these two are the least objectionable.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve liked Becky’s designs so far…nothing groundbreaking but I think she’s done a good job. Whatever her limitations are,  I would bet that if she herself were younger and thinner, “dowdy” would not have been the word Josh chose to describe her work.

    Go team 30+!

    Also, the model wearing her look reminds me of Paz de la Huerta a bit…especially without the bra.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q5FGRMBQVFFBMS53LVJ2FDICPU T

      bingo!!!!  great point.  (i like becky’s clothing.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q5FGRMBQVFFBMS53LVJ2FDICPU T

    surprisingly (to some perhaps) i would really enjoy watching pr much better if there was no drama, personalities, fake judging/winners.  the nonsense of this type of show isn’t pleasant tv viewing.  i really do watch tv for pleasure and would absolutely love for pr to be a real competition about competent, talented designers (looking for a break/to be discovered, NOT established designers) who work hard to create beautiful, breathtaking clothes.  there’s already enough “reality” junk on television without an interesting concept like pr to just be another “reality” junk program. 

    • Anonymous

      John Rogers, one of the producers of Leverage, has used the term “competence porn” to describe skilled people showing off their skills.  (They were surprised to learn that viewers wanted to see the team coming up with their plans, not just executing them.)  The reason I started watching Project Runway in spite of never watching other reality shows was precisely the “competence porn” factor.  If all I care about is watching people behave badly, I can get that almost anywhere. Competence is a lot harder to find.

      • Anonymous

        Very well put.

      • Anonymous

        Very well put.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q5FGRMBQVFFBMS53LVJ2FDICPU T

        absolutely!  and i hate it when they put on designers who have no business being there (like “rosette” angela).  these designers are set up for failure in order to give the others and the audience someone to laugh at, put down.  grrrrr…….

        • Anonymous

          Agreed… except for using Angela Fleurchon as an example. She made some memorably bad outfits (Jubilee Jumbles!) but at least had a unique personal style (remember those time-of-the-month-accident-crotch jodhpur capris she wore?) and she could sew well. Her Audrey Hepburn dress was v v cute.

          Remember Crazy Vincent? Now, that was an obvious rum chum choice.

            

          • Anonymous

            Gawd. That was a fun season of PR.

          • Anonymous

            I think Angela is an example of being cast to fail. She was cast to be a wacky character*. Based upon her pre-show portfolio, she had almost no chance of winning and a good chance of creating Jubilee Jumbles, no matter how much her inclusion was justified by artsy-craftsy being on trend. (And on that note: first person auf’d in Season 3? Sheer skirt and granny panties. Oh, Stacey Estrella, you were ahead of your time.)

            Vincent’s portfolio, by contrast, while being, in the words of Santino, like opening up a time capsule, could in no way, shape, or form prepare one for him putting a chain around a basket, putting it on an unsuspecting model’s head, and calling it a hat.

            * Mind you, Jay said the same thing about himself.

          • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

            “And on that note: first person auf’d in Season 3? Sheer skirt and granny
            panties. Oh, Stacey Estrella, you were ahead of your time.”

            And Michael made fun of them. “Grandma’s big white panties. Who wants to see that?” I just watched that episode yesterday, so it’s fresh in my mind.

      • Anonymous

        YES.  I’ve spent much of my life explaining to people that to me, “competent” is a high compliment. (so many folks use it to mean just barely better than “mediocre”)  It’s up there in the 5 things that can make me fall in love. Or in serious crush, anyway.

      • Now I am The Bee

        Agreed.  I love watching the process of designing and executing the fashions, not the crappy drama between contestants.  I hear this same thing from all the quilters and sewists I know–we want to see the competence! 

    • Anonymous

      I agree with you. The initial attraction of PR for me was seeing how a designer’s mind works  and how creative people interpreted the same instructions/challenges with wildly different results. The show is actually more fun when the designers get along and goof around with each other. (Although, some of the talking head sniping is kind of funny, sometimes, I do admit.)

      • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

        it’s the only show i watch now & i watch it for only two reasons: so i can understand this blog & cos, when the designers are good & the challenges interesting, it’s w o n d e r f u l to see well done art or design work somewhere, anywhere & particularly unusual to see it showcased on television.

        i DESPISE the workroom drama overtaking the creative thought.

        • Anonymous

          Totally agree–I got hooked a long time ago because I like seeing how talented people make stuff (watch cooking shows for the same reason).  I admit I like some drama if it has heart (a la Mondo) but where’s the fun and the beauty?  Gone, it seems.

        • Anonymous

          Me, too. I’ve always said my favorite thing is seeing the magic of creative people making something out of nothing.  Sometimes that’s been really amazing. There’ve always been clashing personalities, but that’s been the least of it for me — and now it’s just getting in the way. What I want to see is how creative, clever people make something fabulous out of coffee filters or corn husks, what they imagine for tomorrow’s postal workers, how gutter water can be the inspiration for a lovely gown. Imagination, not machinations, is what hooked me, and it’s what I keep watching for.

          • Anonymous

            Here’s the thing. Drama is bound to happen regardless of who is cast on this show, so why not cast based on clothes ALONE? Whoever casts looks at the portfolios to whittle it down, then the clothes themselves–have the designers fill out a questionnaire or something, and cast sight unseen–like The Voice. I bet you’d still get some bitchy and dramatic people–think of your office where everyone was on their best behavior at the interview and was chosen because they were “nice” or something. Also, you’d be free not having to cast so many men, so many women, the older one, the bitchy one, the crazy one…eliminating people who are really talented because they “have to” have a nut job wearing a tie dye spandex unitard. Although I admit that was funny at the time, I’m done seeing it. The first 4 seasons were cast by their talent in designing because–here’s a newsflash!–that’s what this show is about. Or supposed to be about.
            I’d be interested in seeing the ratings for this show based on when it was on Bravo (when it was good) to when it went to Lifetime (when it jumped the shark).
            By casting “types” for personality alone, this becomes Big Brother With Wewing. I don’t want to see that. I want to see the clothes being made in the challenge parameters, and someone is bound to be weird to make it interesting. Heck, all artistic people are weird in some way. You throw a few random people in a room and stuff will happen, no matter what.
            I always thought it would be interesting to do a reality show based purely by random selection. People could apply like a sweepstakes entry, and they shove everyone in the house. The chances of having a house full of quiet people who do nothing but read are very slim. You’d get just as much drama without thinking of creating drama so why are they spending so much time casting by personality or look alone?

    • http://twitter.com/Alloyjane Alloy Jane

      I raise my hand in agreement as well.  I watch for the creative process and end results, the interaction is just a bonus.  But when competitor interaction is rife with garbage behavior, I really lose interest.  This is why I love So You Think You Can Dance.  It’s all about the dancing and the competitors don’t see each other as competition.  And unlike what someone said somewhere in one of the PR posts, after so many seasons, I expect the quality of found designer to go UP not down.  Eight seasons into SYTYCD and we saw some of the most phenomenal dancing ever in the show.  I thought after season 4 of PR that we’d see an explosion of interesting design, but I felt the following season wasn’t QUITE as interesting.  Even still, there was still good design happening.  Now?  Just a ton of drama and boring clothes.

  • Anonymous

    It seems like you’ve forgotten the things you said about her before. Becky and Kimberly are the only ones I’m even pulling for at this point. I like their ideas, their craftsmanship. I don’t think you can judge Becky as dowdy off this challenge, when her design ideas were completely overrruled. She was forced to work on someone else’s aesthetic. 

  • Anonymous

    Clinique Counter made a huge fuss about being team leader and being in charge. So if he gets the “Win” for one of his team mates garments. He gets to own the blame for poor showing of his other team mate.  The Producer manipulation on this episode was so obvious its nauseating.  

    Note to PR Producers: I watch this show to see what creative solutions the designers came up with for each challenge. Lately, the challenges are cracktastic WTF’s, designed for drama, not creativity and the resulting garments are bad and B-O-R-I-N-G. The hell with boring Nina, you are boring me!

  • MilaXX

    Not much to add since this horse has been so thoroughly flogged. I liked this collection since it had a bit of color, but overall I wasn’t crazy about this challenge.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with everyone else that Becky’s work is a lot better than you guys are describing it.  Also, I think you need to admit that we’re not going to see the “crazy” that you were predicting from her at the beginning.  She’s actually a fairly sweet person, it seems.

    • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

      i think she’s just a nice person who seems like someone w/ whom i’d make snide but clever comments in the parking lot at work. eventually we’d go to parties at one another’s house & realize we knew people in common from some totally unrelated area back during the times of our respective lives when we were young & gay, so to speak.

      & i do think her work in general is better than what she & everyone else have been forced to pound out during these endless preposterous challenges.

      • Anonymous

        I miss being able to use the word gay in its original sense. (Well, of course I could use it thus. But not usually without creating misunderstanding.)

        • Anonymous

          Well, the “original” meaning of the word didn’t remain its only meaning for very long.  Though the first use of the word was in the sense of “light-hearted”, by the early 17th-century it began also to mean “addicted to social pleasures and dissipation”, and, by the early 1800s, to call a woman “gay” was to suggest that she was a prostitute.  So, I agree, one must be very careful how one uses the word!

      • Anonymous

        I miss being able to use the word gay in its original sense. (Well, of course I could use it thus. But not usually without creating misunderstanding.)

  • Anonymous

    I agree with everyone else that Becky’s work is a lot better than you guys are describing it.  Also, I think you need to admit that we’re not going to see the “crazy” that you were predicting from her at the beginning.  She’s actually a fairly sweet person, it seems.

  • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

    I’m rooting for her to pull out a spectacular win this week. Probably not very likely, but still… would be justice…

  • http://profiles.google.com/misslauraschultz Laura Schultz

    I’m rooting for her to pull out a spectacular win this week. Probably not very likely, but still… would be justice…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

      Even better if he (mr.makeup-britches) is in the bottom.

  • BuffaloBarbara

    Yeah, she reminds me of people I knew in Boston, too.  I haven’t seen as much of it since I came west, but it’s immediately identifiable.  It makes me think of an article I read about librarians who create funky cocktails with Dewey numbers.

  • Anonymous

    I can kindasorta see Becky as Flo, but she’s a dead ringer for Technical Analyst Penelope Garcia on “Criminal Minds.”

    {Hangs head in shame for occasionally watching a CBS show}

    • Anonymous

      Love Penelope!
      I suspect there are lots of network watchers amongst the bitter kittens, even if they don’t want to admit it ;)

      Myself, it’s NCIS, for Mark Harmon and David McCallum. Older, but still got IT.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Hey, I’m not embarrassed to say that I watch Criminal Minds and NCIS. Love Mark Harmon (and Gibbs, that cranky bastard), love Garcia, love Joe Montegna.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Hey, I’m not embarrassed to say that I watch Criminal Minds and NCIS. Love Mark Harmon (and Gibbs, that cranky bastard), love Garcia, love Joe Montegna.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Hey, I’m not embarrassed to say that I watch Criminal Minds and NCIS. Love Mark Harmon (and Gibbs, that cranky bastard), love Garcia, love Joe Montegna.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Hey, I’m not embarrassed to say that I watch Criminal Minds and NCIS. Love Mark Harmon (and Gibbs, that cranky bastard), love Garcia, love Joe Montegna.

      • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

        Hey, I’m not embarrassed to say that I watch Criminal Minds and NCIS. Love Mark Harmon (and Gibbs, that cranky bastard), love Garcia, love Joe Montegna.

  • Anonymous

    They’d better be careful with their clumsy producer interference. I know a lot of people that’ve stopped watching this show because it’s gotten so predictable. After last season’s finale fiasco, another year of producer driven decisions could decimate their audience.
    That said — Josh moved into Bert territory on my dislikable scale. He was playing mean girl with Flo from the outset. Her work may be dated but he shut down her ideas without even really listening to them. 

  • Anonymous

    My hatred of Joan Clinique Crawford colors everything, and I admit that, but I still don’t think Becky’s looks are dowdy. I liked her Nina dress and I liked her stilt walker jacket. This look was a mess but pretty much everyone’s was a mess this week. And I wish the producers would quit trying to put personality over design. Josh, for me, is not fun to watch. He had legitimate concerns, but he treated his co-worker terribly. He thought he was being cute. I can tell from his interviews he thinks he’s just so cute and funny. He’s not. And watching people being abused isn’t my idea of good entertainment.

    And also, up the budgets or something. Ever since LA not just the quality of work has gone down, but the quality of materials has gone down. Why does all their fabric look so cheap and flimsy? Mondo managed to make some things look luxurious but the rest of it looks like remnants from the Walmart discount bin.

    • Anonymous

      He had legitimate concerns, but he treated his co-worker terribly.

      Exactly.  There are ways to express those concerns which will give positive results and team cohesiveness.  Then there’s what Josh did:  insult the person, denigrate her work, relegate her to “slave” status, and then be surprised that she’s upset.

    • http://palimpsest.typepad.com/frogsandravens Rana

      And also, up the budgets or something.

      Yes!  And give them more time to do something interesting, too!

      • Anonymous

        Time is right. Have they had any 2-day challenges yet?

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          No they haven’t. Actually, it seems like every week they have less time than the week before.

        • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

          No they haven’t. Actually, it seems like every week they have less time than the week before.

  • BuffaloBarbara

    Every time someone says that, I want to say, “WHICH ETHNICITY?  AND FOR WHAT EVENTS?”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PRM766RS56X25A5742XLACK2LM Sam

      All Ethnicity (ies?).
      It’s not racist when everyone’s lumped into two groups, “Whites” and “Non-whites”.

      Right?

      • BuffaloBarbara

        I know, and it’s just so easy to mistake a batik from Bali for kente cloth from Ghana, or a Navajo woven pattern.  Who could be expected to keep such piffling things straight? [/sarcasm]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5OGVID5Z72RTAXAN74D7JJKE5E Jessica

    So I have to ask…why is there so much orange being paired with gray this season? Is orange and gray considered a good color combo? Julie got auf’d for it, and Josh used it for his Nina-dress. 

    • Anonymous

      Orange paired with Gray makes me weep.  I don’t get it.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/premal.laxman Premal Laxman

    I like to think the Spice Girls dressed better than that

  • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

    I can’t fault the construction. She made the pieces look better than they should have, and would have, had they been sewn by their actual designers. So for that, she deserves praise. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

    Oh, and Helloooooo, Nipples!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

    I thought  Becky disassociated herself frorm the design of her look, becauses they weren’t her designs. I remember her saying she thought the top was about 2 ”  too short, and discussed it with makeup britches.  Was I hallucinating?

  • pacconci

    Not only is Paz de la Huerta’s look-alike displaying substantial nipplage, but that gray fabric is so clingy we even see the outline of her areolae, particularly in the third shot. Since they are not allowed to use tape, I second the earlier suggestion that the accessory wall provide support for situations like this, or for models like Cecilia’s, who had “extremely long neeples.”

  • Anonymous

    I’m going to go ahead and point out Funky Velma’s awesome jacket for the stupid stiltwalker challenge.  That was far more than competent, methinks.

    I do think this whole challenge was pretty half-assed, and the designers made half-assed clothes to go with it.  And with a dress with two seams that had a zipper that wasn’t inserted and trim that wasn’t sewn down being the winning look, and a win given to the guy on the team who had nothing to do with it (maybe he suggested the trim? I can’t remember)…well, the judges were pretty half-assed too.

    I hate to say it, but PR (judges, producers, whoever) has long since stopped giving any challenges that stimulate the imagination.  This shows in the work the designers are putting out–half-designed and half-finished.  It says something that Becky and Josh are my two favorites, and I’m disappointed in both of their efforts this week.

  • Anonymous

    I’m going to go ahead and point out Funky Velma’s awesome jacket for the stupid stiltwalker challenge.  That was far more than competent, methinks.

    I do think this whole challenge was pretty half-assed, and the designers made half-assed clothes to go with it.  And with a dress with two seams that had a zipper that wasn’t inserted and trim that wasn’t sewn down being the winning look, and a win given to the guy on the team who had nothing to do with it (maybe he suggested the trim? I can’t remember)…well, the judges were pretty half-assed too.

    I hate to say it, but PR (judges, producers, whoever) has long since stopped giving any challenges that stimulate the imagination.  This shows in the work the designers are putting out–half-designed and half-finished.  It says something that Becky and Josh are my two favorites, and I’m disappointed in both of their efforts this week.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever you want to say about Becky’s work so far, “dowdy” doesn’t apply. And this was Josh’s design.  Remember?  Becky was there to SEW, not DESIGN, since PancakeFace made it quite clear that only his beautiful own self and his “beautiful” beauty-queen-sex-tape-mohawk BFF were capable of designing. 

    I’m starting to have a slightly icky feeling that Becky’s being criticized for being Becky–overweight, close-to-middle-aged Midwest gal–than for the work she puts out.  I’m 100% sure that that was how Josh thought of her.  Just not up to his very high standards of youth and beauty.  Gag me.

    • http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

      “I’m starting to have a slightly icky feeling that Becky’s being
      criticized for being Becky–overweight, close-to-middle-aged Midwest
      gal–than for the work she puts out.”

      Yep, that’s what I think, and I believe I mentioned it in the TLounge last week. I’m convinced that Josh M thinks Becky doesn’t deserve to be in the presence of his and Anya’s breathtaking fabulousness.

      I used to work for a guy who chose his friends, and tried to choose his hair clients, based on how pretty they were and/or how much money they had. I had a friend who was both pretty and wealthy, and my boss went crazy trying to be her friend. The fawning and sucking up was disgusting. She knew exactly what he was about though. She was so offended by it that she finally went to another salon to get her hair done. My point being, Josh reminds me a lot of my former boss. It’s all about the surface for him.

  • http://twitter.com/karenwalsh Karen Walsh

    I’m so over Clinique.  NEXT!

  • Presumptuous Insect

    Is that grey shirt even hemmed?  What is up with that?

  • Anonymous

    I can’t figure out if this challenge is inherently doomed or if it might come off, given the right contestants, (though really, this group isn’t awful though sometimes it’s hard to tell), right kind of producer nudging, etc.

    I lean toward the challenge being inherently doomed. Because it’s not really about fashion or sportswear, it’s about product placement and Heidi’s contracts.

  • Anonymous

    It’s strange that you would say Becky’s frumpy nipplefest was of a piece with her earlier work when for the last two weeks you had many positive things to say.  Remember the drop-cloth with yellow piping? Remember the angular show-me-your-tat jacket?

  • Anonymous

    Dear Tom and Dear Lorenzo,
    I just love you both so much.
    That is all.
    Thank you,
    Maria

  • Victoria Perry

    That is totally an excellent point about living in Josh World. :D

  • Victoria Perry

    That is totally an excellent point about living in Josh World. :D

  • Anonymous

    This show is just making me tired and depressed. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s an insult to Clinique to call Josh that.  He’s more like the old fashioned Max Factor pancake makeup applied with a soggy sponge.

    I agree with all the posters who pointed out that this wasn’t about Becky as a designer.  This is about Becky being a larger, late 30′s Midwestern woman who isn’t part of Josh’s worldview for mattering.  Sexist, ageist bullshit.  Nothing Becky has made from her own designs would I label “dowdy”.  And these are Pancake Boy’s designs, since it was crystal clear he didn’t let Becky design anything, which she stated on the runway.  No, these aren’t good, but they are sewn well and that was the job she was given.

  • Anonymous

    It’s an insult to Clinique to call Josh that.  He’s more like the old fashioned Max Factor pancake makeup applied with a soggy sponge.

    I agree with all the posters who pointed out that this wasn’t about Becky as a designer.  This is about Becky being a larger, late 30′s Midwestern woman who isn’t part of Josh’s worldview for mattering.  Sexist, ageist bullshit.  Nothing Becky has made from her own designs would I label “dowdy”.  And these are Pancake Boy’s designs, since it was crystal clear he didn’t let Becky design anything, which she stated on the runway.  No, these aren’t good, but they are sewn well and that was the job she was given.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t like any one of them, so I’ll cheer when they’re auf’d.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll take Becky’s “dowdiness” over Josh’s 9 year old  girl deconstructing a my little pony aesthetic any day. Her looks have been cute – she def outdid Anthony in the fabric throw- down. I like the straps on the tank -  in fact they are my fave elemeent of the whole collection…the rest of the shirt is the wrong fabric length and color but them straps is CUTE!   
    Also, just because a designer does not want to tramp up everything does not make her dowdy

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Okay, I do love Becky – loved the stilt jacket, love her attitude , and more importantly love the thought that is going through her head in that first screen capture as noted below:

    “I think I smell bedazzler glue…ew-w-w-w-w!”

    Oh yeah, and her drop cloth dress was pretty cute.

  • moth_mdc

    Flogoddess <3

  • http://twitter.com/MandySCG MandyJane

    How many times will they praise Anya’s racerback maxi dresses before demanding she make something different?

    • Anonymous

      Remember April last year? They kept praising her lingerie-inspired looks until she sent the same thing down the runway one time too many and then they jumped her for being repetitive.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, just looked at Clinique’s “portfolio” Looks like tank tops and itty bitty panties are his second love…his first love being himself. I don’t see how Becky can be held responsible for any of these looks. They have Clinique’s pov all over them except for the maxi dress which is clearly Anya’s. The only thing I haven’t liked of her’s was the petshop challenge dress. Bottom line is that  Clinique should not have been a co-winner with HV but  the cracktastic result has become a PR staple now.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_66KPZ36LMHMRQOX3HIJGHRNNUA MandyM

    I am annoyed as hell this season. The designers all suck compared to other seasons and the challenges are just plain stupid. The petty drama is no fun at all to watch and now neither is the runway. Shame on you PR for ruining a great show!

  • Anonymous

    I find it rather ironic people are so upset about Josh calling Becky dowdy. Even if he DID flat-out mean “frumpy woman in her 30s from the Midwest,” well…

    A. She IS a woman in her 30s from the midwest, (she’s like, 32, so I don’t get where all the ageism comments are coming from, I’ve seen dowdy 18 year olds),  and while I agree her personal style is not cute, ‘dowdy’ is a manner of opinion.

    B. Aren’t y’all also the ones who have called him Clinique Counter with such glee from day one?

    I guess it’s ok to stereotype and label people if they’re young urban homosexuals who wear makeup, but not if they’re nice ladies from the Midwest who you identify with more. Okayyyy then. Saying “but Clinique Counter is a JOKE” isn’t really a defense, either.
    I’m not addressing TLo here. I don’t think the nickname is offensive. I just don’t think calling a frumpy chick dowdy is really any different. They’re both judgments based on appearance and perceived personae. And if you say “but he really DOES wear makeup,” well, maybe some people think Becky really IS dowdy. Is that not ok?  And the last time I checked she wears a fair bit of makeup herself, yet it was the young sassy gay guy who got saddled with the makeup nickname. I’m sure TLo would even admit that IS the joke. It’s not funny if you’re calling a girl Clinique Counter. So how is that really any different or less “offensive”? I’m not even denying Josh treated her like shit during the challenge. I just don’t know why everyone has latched onto dowdy like he called her a wrinkled c*** or something. It wasn’t even close to being one of the worst things he said. And considering how I remember everyone was SHOCKED to find out how young Becky actually was after seeing publicity pics of her before the season started, well…I find it more than a little dubious now that everyone is raving about young, hip and stylish she looks.

    • Anonymous

      Actually the issue being discussed is whether Becky’s designs are dowdy, or if people are confusing her personal style with her designs.

      Most people here seem to think her designs are not dowdy, certainly no more than anyone else’s, and that when people call her work dowdy, they are thinking instead of her personal style (which I don’t think is dowdy, even if she is in her 30s and from the midwest – as Gotham Tomato? put it, it’s not like she’s Mom jeans on the bus to Reno).

      Also, I do think it’s fair to call out Josh M’s personal and design styles as questionable, since the whole situation arose because he thought his own and Anya’s input were the only ones worth considering. And if you are going to insult people, the natural reaction is to wonder if you might deserve insults yourself.

    • Victoria Perry

      Actually, she’s 38 according to PR site.  And while editing may have something to do with it, to me, he looked like he was bullying her and bullying is never okay.  While, it is okay not to like someone. It is not okay to treat them the way that he treated her.

  • Anonymous

    I find it rather ironic people are so upset about Josh calling Becky dowdy. Even if he DID flat-out mean “frumpy woman in her 30s from the Midwest,” well…

    A. She IS a woman in her 30s from the midwest, (she’s like, 32, so I don’t get where all the ageism comments are coming from, I’ve seen dowdy 18 year olds),  and while I agree her personal style is not cute, ‘dowdy’ is a manner of opinion.

    B. Aren’t y’all also the ones who have called him Clinique Counter with such glee from day one?

    I guess it’s ok to stereotype and label people if they’re young urban homosexuals who wear makeup, but not if they’re nice ladies from the Midwest who you identify with more. Okayyyy then. Saying “but Clinique Counter is a JOKE” isn’t really a defense, either.
    I’m not addressing TLo here. I don’t think the nickname is offensive. I just don’t think calling a frumpy chick dowdy is really any different. They’re both judgments based on appearance and perceived personae. And if you say “but he really DOES wear makeup,” well, maybe some people think Becky really IS dowdy. Is that not ok?  And the last time I checked she wears a fair bit of makeup herself, yet it was the young sassy gay guy who got saddled with the makeup nickname. I’m sure TLo would even admit that IS the joke. It’s not funny if you’re calling a girl Clinique Counter. So how is that really any different or less “offensive”? I’m not even denying Josh treated her like shit during the challenge. I just don’t know why everyone has latched onto dowdy like he called her a wrinkled c*** or something. It wasn’t even close to being one of the worst things he said. And considering how I remember everyone was SHOCKED to find out how young Becky actually was after seeing publicity pics of her before the season started, well…I find it more than a little dubious now that everyone is raving about young, hip and stylish she looks.

  • Anonymous

    Oh boys, after the waterlogged weekend you’ve had I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I agree with the many other posters who have referenced your positive comments on Becky’s prior work.  So far, she’s one of my favorites.  Aside from the Miss  Clinique induced crying binge, she puts her head down, does what she does and produces well-constructed, eye-catching fashion.   I hope that she kicks-ass in the next challenge.

    As to the comments that perhaps the judges or contestants can tend to be a little ageist, a little sizeist when viewing the runway…  Have they ever done a blind challenge? 

  • Anonymous

    I disagree with T and Lo on this one. I think that Becky has produced some good designs – the first challenge, the jacket on the stilts challenge – and even TLo pointed out the jacket. And I thought his shorts were done by Becky, but I may be wrong. Josh’s T shirt is good, but I think the vest was plain silly.

  • Anonymous

    This episode really hit a button for me.  I don’t like making generalisations (actually I do, what the heck) but in an industry dominated by bitchy queens and beauty queens (as personified by Clinique and Anya), it seems that everyone is always trying to make us women look ‘fabulous’ or ‘sexy’ or ‘fierce’ when sometimes all we want  to wear are comfortable, stylish, well-made appropriate clothes, that suit a variety of body shapes.  Maybe that is ‘dowdy’ and maybe Heidi wouldn’t wear them, but I’d buy Becky’s clothes over Anya’s any day of the week and my goodness the fashion industry could do with a few more Beckys.

    And Becky’s funky comfortable style is so Pacific NorthWest, where Anya’s glamour and Josh’s bling would just frighten the horses.

  • Anonymous

    This episode really hit a button for me.  I don’t like making generalisations (actually I do, what the heck) but in an industry dominated by bitchy queens and beauty queens (as personified by Clinique and Anya), it seems that everyone is always trying to make us women look ‘fabulous’ or ‘sexy’ or ‘fierce’ when sometimes all we want  to wear are comfortable, stylish, well-made appropriate clothes, that suit a variety of body shapes.  Maybe that is ‘dowdy’ and maybe Heidi wouldn’t wear them, but I’d buy Becky’s clothes over Anya’s any day of the week and my goodness the fashion industry could do with a few more Beckys.

    And Becky’s funky comfortable style is so Pacific NorthWest, where Anya’s glamour and Josh’s bling would just frighten the horses.

  • http://www.joannao.blogspot.com JoannaOC

    I’m a Becky fan.

  • Kathleen Gillies

    Team Beckster.  I like her.  Josh is mean and vain.  Don’t trust Anya (thinking she is a bit of a fameho).

  • Anonymous

    I felt so bad for Becky! But she is tough and I think she has yet to show us everything she’s got, maybe she will rise up and fight against Clinique and show us something amazing…even though she tried to be professional, (which I admire, especially on this show), her feelings were truly hurt but she pulled though anyway…And yes, make-up boy was mean, but Bert, who I really wanted to likein the beginning, was downright scary! The kids should watch their backs around that one…lastly, I still think Anya is what she appears, a decent girl with spirit who wants to get along with everyone…I do not, as yet, see her evil designs, but maybe I am just naive….I will say that overall, the show is still holding my interest, but I am growing tired of the showcasing of infighting, I know its reality tv but I agree with the comments posted earlier about “competency porn”, I wish we could go back to making pretty clothes and rewarding people for their talents…..Whew, that was a lot of venting….

  • Anonymous

    I thought the shredded vest was very “village people.”  I have really liked Becky’s stuff, from the pet shop challenge to the stilt challenge to the Nina challenge.  Frankly, I can’t remember what Josh has made.  Becky’s style does have a bit of Mad Men edge to it, and frankly, that is right on trend as far as I can tell.  And as for trends v. style, Becky’s style is much more fun, attractive and wearable than many of the others in the room.  

  • Anonymous

    I thought the shredded vest was very “village people.”  I have really liked Becky’s stuff, from the pet shop challenge to the stilt challenge to the Nina challenge.  Frankly, I can’t remember what Josh has made.  Becky’s style does have a bit of Mad Men edge to it, and frankly, that is right on trend as far as I can tell.  And as for trends v. style, Becky’s style is much more fun, attractive and wearable than many of the others in the room.  

  • Anonymous

    I thought the shredded vest was very “village people.”  I have really liked Becky’s stuff, from the pet shop challenge to the stilt challenge to the Nina challenge.  Frankly, I can’t remember what Josh has made.  Becky’s style does have a bit of Mad Men edge to it, and frankly, that is right on trend as far as I can tell.  And as for trends v. style, Becky’s style is much more fun, attractive and wearable than many of the others in the room.  

  • Alloy Jane

    That is not Becky’s design and Josh even stated that he had a heavy hand in what she was producing.  Remember the judges praising him for not letting her dowdy up his collection?  I’m not gonna fault her for this floppy mess.  Look at the shirt and tell me it isn’t the same aesthetic as his aquarium top.  http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2011/08/pr-mermaid-vs-cowgirl.html  

  • Alloy Jane

    That is not Becky’s design and Josh even stated that he had a heavy hand in what she was producing.  Remember the judges praising him for not letting her dowdy up his collection?  I’m not gonna fault her for this floppy mess.  Look at the shirt and tell me it isn’t the same aesthetic as his aquarium top.  http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2011/08/pr-mermaid-vs-cowgirl.html  

  • http://www.fatladysings.us/ TFLS

    I REALLY do not like the direction Lifetime is taking this show.  It’s becoming less about design, and more about personality (or lack thereof [hello Josh, I'm talking about you]).  I tend to record each episode to watch later.  Used to be all I’d skip over were the commercials.  Now I find my finger itching to cut past all the hate.  It’s like they cast for overt bitchiness.  Makes me long for the days of Santino at his worst.  At least he had moments of humor and brilliance.  I’ve yet to see either circumstance this season.  No out-loud funny or Austin Scarlett ‘those can’t really be corn husks’ magic.  This doesn’t auger well for Runway’s future.   

    • Anonymous

      Santino was funny, not really mean, I thought anyway.  He made me laugh more than dislike him.

      • BuffaloBarbara

        Yeah, me too.  I’ve been back to watch the earlier seasons, and I thought Santino was funny–a big, overgrown, hyperactive kid kind of funny that could get tiring fast, but funny.

  • Anonymous

    You’re being too hard on Becks, T Lo. She’s got at least as much talent as a lot of other designers still left. That may be damning her with faint praise but this season is a bit of a creativity desert.

  • Anonymous

    As much as I hated the last episode, you can bet most of us will bust our bitter butts tonight to watch the next in the Crackitude Parade of Challenges.   I wish, like someone else previously posted, that they would change models each time so that every runway show is a blind judging situation.   That would put the focus back on the actual designs, where it belongs.  

  • Anonymous

    “ragegasms” – I just died….literaly….I’m having a gaspasm on the floor…

  • Anonymous

    I was under the impression that she didn’t get to design anything.

  • Now I am The Bee

    I apologize if this has been said–but I was under the impression that Becky was not “allowed” to design anything per Josh’s directive; only allowed to sew what he designed.  So–while all the looks from this team were marginal, they were constructed really well!  And didn’t Josh decide on the styling for the team (or maybe Anya?)  I don’t think Becky had an opportunity to say anything  about it. 
    I love Becky and I think her designs are very fashionable–not dowdy at all.  Her dress last week was cute and young, and the stilt-walker’s jacket was awesome. 
    TEAM BECKY! 

  • Anonymous

    So this comment is mostly inspired by the last sentence in your post, because I can’t be bothered to have much to say anymore about that episode:

    Producer manipulation has always been a fact of the show, but when it’s done well you don’t even see it. Since we are talking about Project Runway, I have textile simile based on a Michael Kors comment: a reality show is like satin – it has to look like human hands haven’t touched it, and this looks like twenty sets of human hands touched it. With a few notable exceptions, PR used to be very good about making the manipulation seem natural. When the judging was questionable, excuses existed, justifications could be made: Santino could magically avoid being auf’d three separate times – but he had one of the strongest points-of-view his season.
    Now they don’t understand subtlety. They don’t understand how to film and interact with the designers naturalistically: they ham-handedly cast for personalities and try to wring some story line out of them – which was always true, but now it’s plainly obvious. It’s not even really the inexplicable judging – that’s also always been a fact of the show, though, again, they were usually better about leading the audience to think the judges had reasons. Nothing appears spontaneous on the show anymore. Now, this is going to sound like nitpicking, but that’s why I absolutely hate seeing the designers backstage talking about the judging – the way it’s handled is so polished and staged, even the green room itself is too neat and camera friendly. To me it seems that little things like that make up so much of what is wrong, why it feels wrong. The way the show is filmed, the way shots are framed, the camera angles and effects – like a scripted show or a movie, the camera is filming the “characters” and “plot” where it used to be filming designers working. Adding that half-hour to the show last season may well be the worst thing they’ve ever done, since they don’t know how to use it properly.

    Or so it seems to me, anyway.

    • Now I am The Bee

      Indeed.  One can only hope that the producers and other background people of PR and Lifetime read this blog and take all these observations into consideration when planning the next season.  Or just give it up. 

  • http://twitter.com/annmartina Ann Harste

    I was surprised Anya wasn’t foaming at the mouth because Josh won for her design

  • Isana Leshchinskaya

    becky’s model looks a lot like carla bruni. 

  • fragileindustries

    I’m still rooting for Becky.  This isn’t her design, and the gal can sew — all the looks were well constructed.  The mottled gray/black jersey fabric was the most interesting part of the “collection” for me — these lines are boring simple in terms of design.  Without that fabric’s energy, the rest was blah.  The stripes are just confusing.  And my god I’m tired of Anya’s racer back, even though this is the first sport challenge that justifies its use.  Time for a few new ideas.  Or any ideas.  Any.  At.  All.  

  • Anonymous

    My only argument against what you said here is how of much this is Becky’s design and how much of it was Josh’s?  I can’t tell.  It was all jumbled together.  So I don’t think it is fair to blame this entire look on Becky.  Josh admitted to having a hand in it.  If that is the case, then he is just as much to blame as anyone else.

    I think Becky can do good work.  I liked the dress she made for Nina the other week…okay I don’t like it for Nina but I liked the dress. I definitely do not feel that fell into the dowdy category.  Prior that dress…she was kind ehhh for me.  I thought her design for that episode stood out.

  • Anonymous

    My only argument against what you said here is how of much this is Becky’s design and how much of it was Josh’s?  I can’t tell.  It was all jumbled together.  So I don’t think it is fair to blame this entire look on Becky.  Josh admitted to having a hand in it.  If that is the case, then he is just as much to blame as anyone else.

    I think Becky can do good work.  I liked the dress she made for Nina the other week…okay I don’t like it for Nina but I liked the dress. I definitely do not feel that fell into the dowdy category.  Prior that dress…she was kind ehhh for me.  I thought her design for that episode stood out.

  • LocMama

    Every time I see Josh I hear his theme song: “Wake me up before you go go Don’t leave me hangin’ on like a yo yo”.  He’s completely 80s George Michael to me.  It makes it hard for me to take his clothes seriously and then his attempt to intimidate his competition was laughable.  I was waiting for Becky to laugh in his face and was surprised to see her collapse into tears.  I prefer Becky’s “nerdy hipster” (thanks GT) to Josh’s over-bedazzled costumes.