PR: Boy on the Bottom, Girl on Top

Posted on July 29, 2011

We suspect that these next two are the ones everyone wants to talk about, so hit it, designers:

Remember what we said in our earlier post about how these prejudging scenes are going to be used to form a narrative? The judges made such a big deal out of her sewing skills – going so far as to suggest she was lying about who did the work on her portfolio – that it was clear from the start that she had to demonstrate some skill level or the judges were going to crucify her.

But we smell … something. Without making any firm accusations, it struck us as mighty odd that she would keep harping on her supposed lack of skills to anyone who would listen; decide against all reason to make pants, and, even though she supposedly never worked with silk or made pants, turned out a silk top and pants combo that looked like this:

Whatever issues one might have with this look, considering it was made out of bedsheets and pajamas by a person who claims she has virtually no sewing skills, it was a damn fine effort.

Not perfect, mind you; and certainly not something that merits such high praise from the judges, but when you tell them at the beginning that you have almost no sewing experience and then attempt something difficult, with results that aren’t quite disastrous, then the judges are going to grade you on a curve.

We don’t know if she’s gaming the system, but if she is, she’s doing it somewhat brilliantly.

Anyway: assessments. She lucked out because she happened to be wearing a really fabulous fabric. It almost doesn’t seem fair when other people had ugly flannel pajama bottoms or boxer shorts to work with, but let that be a lesson to all future contestants: never wear something that you can’t turn into something fabulous. Love the racer back and the way she pleated and shaped the front, although the straps look pretty sloppy.

But there’s only one real story here:

The judges, perhaps because of hysterical blindness or drunkenness, somehow looked at these shitastic pants and praised her for her execution. This isn’t the Special Olympics of sewing, judges. There’s grading on a curve, and then there’s praising someone just for getting the project done. These pants are TERRIBLE. Had they been perfectly executed, we might be talking about a praise-worthy look, but come ON. Eight seasons of Grumpy Nina telling people that execution matters and then the judges all decide it doesn’t if we’re talking about someone with less training? Please.

We think a big part of the judges’ overreaction – aside from their very low expectations of her – was that she’s beautiful and has a unique personal style. A model, designer, and fashion editor are naturally going to respond well to her.

We don’t mean to take anything away from what she did here; it’s a chic design and the sewing was better than anyone expected, but we’re not sure Top 3 was warranted.

Until Mr. Mormon Clean here informs the world that his comment about waiting for the right girl was a joke, we are forced to give him the side-eye. No judgments! But come ON. Was there anyone watching who didn’t say “What? Are you kidding me?” to that little aside? He seems like a very sweet guy, though.

But a bit overwhelmed by the pressure already. He had a fairly decent amount of material to work with; enough to make three pieces, in fact. The problem is…

These are the three pieces he chose.


Oh, honey. Putting the insert smack in the middle of the shirt? With shitty reversed seams?


Pleated white mom shorts from 1994?

Maybe he really IS just waiting for the right girl.

The look wasn’t totally awful. The back of the shirt has a little bit of interest to it.

And while the hoodie shrug was particularly half-assed in the execution; design-wise, it was kind of interesting.

Like we said, he seems sweet. It’s kind of hard to tell from this look if he’s got the chops or not. It never bodes well for contestants who get overwhelmed right out of the starting gate, but we want him to stay for two reasons:

1) We want to see the reactions of some of the queens on the show when he pulls out that “waiting for the right girl” line in front of them; and

2)When he tries to defend his garment on the runway with half-assed excuses about how no one told him what to do, Nina looks like this:

And that’s priceless.

 

[Photo Credit: Barbara Nitke/Lifetime Television - Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1663121863 Donna DeVore Metler

      I can believe 4 months of sewing practice, if she had really good instruction and worked on it a lot-but I also question two things:

      The first is…isn’t cotton/poly easier to sew than silk?

      and the second

      Is silk washable? I can’t imagine nightwear that has to be drycleaned!

      • http://kathrynt.livejournal.com/ Kathryn T.

        Depends on the silk.  Silk as a fiber is absolutely washable, but if the hand of the fabric depends on having the sericin coating left on the fiber, then it has to be dry-cleaned.  Basically, drapey silk (charmeuse, jersey, crepe, chiffon)? Wash away.  Crisp silk (taffeta, organza, dupioni)? No-no-no.

        • http://profiles.google.com/dchockeyguy Trevor Burroughs

          Wow, I never knew that.  Thanks for the great info. I always wondered why some things you can wash and others you can’t.

        • Anonymous

          Raw Silk – I swear it gives off on odd odor regardles of which way I had cleaned it

          • http://kathrynt.livejournal.com/ Kathryn T.

            It does.  That odor is the combination of two things: one, the very high level of sericin left on raw silk, and two, the bits of silkworm that frequently also end up in raw silk.  (I’ve reeled silk by hand right off the cocoon.  It is a very bug-intensive process.)

            • http://twitter.com/urban_gypsy Urban Gypsy aka Tess

              There is something so indefinably cool and sexy about someone who has reeled silk from a cocoon. Wiki informs me that a cocoon is made of a thread of silk that is between 1000 to 3000 feet long. Now if you said you’d eaten the pupae, that would be a very different story; delicacy or not, that’s one place I cannot imagine going. Not even fried.

            • http://moodring54.livejournal.com/ moodring54

              I’ve done it. It is a flavor that haunts me still.

            • http://kathrynt.livejournal.com/ Kathryn T.

              I have not eaten the pupae. I am willing to, in theory, but the fragrance from the simmering cocoons was, in the words of our instructor, “unlovely.”

              The cocoons we were using had about a kilometer of silk each in them. You combine about 20 to make a barely-visible filament.  If you leave the sericin intact, the resulting fiber can be very stiff indeed!

        • Anonymous

          Thank you for this, Kathryn. There is an ongoing inability in many people to understand the difference between a fiber and a fabric. Silk, cotton, linen, wool, and even polyester and rayon are fibers. Fabric—and its varying weights, textures, and drapes—is what happens when the fiber is spun into thread and then woven, knitted, or crocheted. How the fabric is created is what bears on how it feels and looks, as well as how easy or difficult it is to work with.

          • http://kathrynt.livejournal.com/ Kathryn T.

            yep. You can make wool chiffon or silk twill. I’ve worked with both!

            Am I the official T-Lo Fiber Nerd now?

            • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

              Well, I’m sure bowing down.  I learned something!  Thank you!  More exclamation points please, Maestro!

      • http://profiles.google.com/denise.alden Denise Alden

        Yep, a lot of silk is washable, and it dries in a flash!

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I actually have some that is dry-clean only, though they tend to be more lingerie pieces than normal pajamas.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        I actually have some that is dry-clean only, though they tend to be more lingerie pieces than normal pajamas.

    • Anonymous

      Oh, Mr. LDS “Waiting for the right girl” isn’t all that sweet.

      Check out his video on Lifetime where he blames all of his problems in this challenge on his model:

      http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/project-runway/video/designer-video-diaries/season-9/episode-1/joshua-christensen-video-diary-episode-1

      • Anonymous

        Oh god, someone pulls that excuse every year. After 9 seasons, these designers should know what to expect and deal with it.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCJEZMOV4VYMXC5WJALLZNYEB4 Mari Rose

        Wow. That was heinous. All that bitching and griping about her measurements and her walk … and he’s the one who said “I love you” to his model when she finished her walk down the runway.

        What a hypocrite. He’s now officially on my shitlist.

        • Anonymous

          I didn’t watch the video yet… but his comment about the model’s measurements reminds me of something Tyra has said several times on ANTM – about knowing your REAL measurements and the ONES YOU GIVE THE CLIENT  – I’ve always wonders WTF that was about

      • Anonymous

        Wow. That was really bad. What a nasty bitch.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, nasty bitch indeed.  I see crash and burn in his future at PR, hopefully soon.  I almost screamed out loud last night when he said “But no one told me what I was making was awful”.  DUH!  Not to your face……

      • margaret meyers

        The “right girl” is gonna have a Y chromosome.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MNMVM2GPVUEIOJXBOSLCXKAW4U judy brown

          I’ve met other closeted gay “Just need the right girl” Mormons.

          It must be a line the church hands ‘em.  So they either never find that right girl, ever or some poor dumb Mormon chick is relagated to a hellish marriage for both of ‘em.

          • Anonymous

            I worked for Mormons who married off their gay youngest son a month after he graduated college. The poor kid was miserable.

            • http://www.facebook.com/LizBWilson Liz Baxter

              I’m sorry but do you live in the 1600’s? How exactly did they have the power to “marry him off?”

            • Anonymous

              They teach him to believe in a religion that only gives him the desirable afterlife if he straight-marries and reproduces.  That’s eternity hanging over them, as long as they still buy all the tenets of the faith.  Pretty big stick.

            • Anonymous

              if you’re willing to be spoon-fed what adults tell you when it goes against EVERYTHING natural.  i was raised in a home like that, i never bought it.

            • Anonymous

              Some of us are more naturally skeptical or rebellious than others.  If you have a strong natural tendency to want to fit in, it must be harder.  (Also remember, he’ll have sacrificed two of his prime adolescent years to going on mission–a sacrifice that brilliantly enmeshes people in the principle of cognitive dissonance.)  I’m hoping that being surrounded by comfortably out guys, and a girl who left an even stricter religion, will give him a clue.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hanna-Watts/1683606598 Hanna Watts

        Okay, now I’m just mad at him.  At first I was like, “Aw.  Poor guy.  It must suck being a gay Mormon.” I felt all bad for him and kind of liked him, but now I want to slap him for blaming his shitty garment on his model.  Tim even warned him about the sizing.

      • Anonymous

        Uh oh. Before this, I thought he was kind of adorable (although completely clueless). Now I’m looking forward to his departure. Take some responsibility for YOUR bad choices and poor execution, Joshua.

      • Anonymous

        God I hope this guy goes home ASAP. Let’s see what other excuses he’s able to trot out in his video blogs while he’s still on the show, since if he tries it on the runway the judges, and possibly the other designers, will call out his BS right away. Least favorite as of now.

      • http://twitter.com/graveetas Graveetas

        LOL More like looking for the right donut! Oh wait are Mormons allowed to eat donuts?

      • Anonymous

        And he had a whole sheet!!!  He could have whipped up a larger pair faster than all the bitching in that video clip.  And do they not watch the show.  Every.single.first.episode the models don’t “match” their measurements.  I’ll bet it’s planned that way.  I leave huge seam allowances on my own sewing for me.  Wow, I’ll bet he’s surprised at the backlash he gets from that little piece of digital “gold”. :-)

      • Anonymous

        What a bottom feeder.  What bothers me the most about this video is that he thinks *if only I had a model that fit my clothing…* I mean really???  As if the perfect human being would walk through the door to fit your oddly shaped garment was the ONLY problem he had!!!!!

        “I had the biggest model in the room” As if it even matters – so long as her clothes fit properly!!!  What a douche.

    • Anonymous

      The pants are polycotton (or whatever) bed sheet; the top is silk. But the point remains the same: she says she can’t sew and then she makes pants. Okay, she had to use silk but she didn’t have to make pants. I just don’t understand the lack of insane crotch commentary from the judges. 

      Actually, Joshua’s wasn’t so bad from the back. But from the front, oy. The least he could have done was to put her in sneakers and give her a gym bag.

      • Anonymous

        I’m always relieved to know I’m not the only one thinking something, and “insane crotch” was definitely in mantra mode while I was watching this.  I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to having a large amount of skepticism towards the sincerity of anyone who has managed to win a high profile pageant.  

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I was thinking that the only thing keeping Duchess from declaring the crotch insane was his thinking that everyone watching would be expecting him to say that.

        But more likely, it IS that grading on a curve thing, that finds the judges working off the narrative in their heads; if they like a designer, or they expect drama/crazy/ratings from a designer, that designer gets a pass. The best example of that, and the one I always go back too, is Santino’s skating turkey costume.–GothamTomato

        • Anonymous

          A classic, to be sure.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

            Nina.was.not.pleased.  Lucky for Josh it was the first episode, or he might have melted onstage from the rage in Nina’s eyes.
            bitchybitchybitchy

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

              I just might have pop Season Two of PR in my DVD player to watch that particular bit of insanity.
              bitchybitchybitchy

      • Anonymous

        Sometimes its always better to surprise the judges and make something unexpected, rather than take the easy way out. Se probably thought they weren’t expecting her to make separates, pants and a top, and thought she might make a simple dress or something. I’m guessing she thought somewhat along those lines and decided to show them she can sew well, and pants are a good way, since they can be quite difficult to make. These certainly aren’t perfect, but they look chic, and with some better sewing, and more time, they’d be great. These look better to me than Gretchen’s similar looking, high-waisted wide legged pants from her winning collection.

      • http://twitter.com/mme_hardy MadameHardy

        I was screaming “THAT CROTCH!  THAT CROTCH!”  I don’t see how you can praise that crotch.

    • http://twitter.com/shinobi42 Shinobi

      I LOVE that he was all “no one told me what to do.”  There are so many young people I’ve met in the working world that are very ” I don’t really understand what you want from me without step by step instructions.”  I think it is something happening in education in this generation that is causing it. 

      • http://badkittyknits.blogspot.com KittyKnits

        As an educator, I concur.  There is an epidemic of being unable to think for one’s self, even when given criteria.  And PLEASE, this is a DESIGN competition, Mr. Clean!  Not a competition of “who can follow instructions better.”

      • http://badkittyknits.blogspot.com KittyKnits

        As an educator, I concur.  There is an epidemic of being unable to think for one’s self, even when given criteria.  And PLEASE, this is a DESIGN competition, Mr. Clean!  Not a competition of “who can follow instructions better.”

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          That’s because too many schools and teachers don’t want kids to think for themselves.  Creativity is discouraged as is any questioning of what you’re taught.  Ever seen a high school student challenge what’s being taught about Woodrow Wilson?  They get shut down immediately.

          • muzan-e

            Simply this: school as an institution which transforms students into question-answers.   Believe me that I thank god every day for our school’s critical-thinking programs, which require our children to question! analyse! subvert!

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          That’s because too many schools and teachers don’t want kids to think for themselves.  Creativity is discouraged as is any questioning of what you’re taught.  Ever seen a high school student challenge what’s being taught about Woodrow Wilson?  They get shut down immediately.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

        Yeck, didn’t we hear enough of this season 7 when Maya quit the show? I know sometimes it’s harder for people of different age demographics to see eye to eye, but can we please stop blaming everything a person under 30 does as the fault of an entire generation and their education?

        You’re going to find attributes of laziness, self entitlement, and the need for handholding in people of all ages. It’s not strictly confined to any one generation and it hasn’t really gotten any worse as time goes by.  After all there are plenty of older people who think the world should stop for them because they’re never wrong and there are plenty of young people who are struggling and fighting to get farther in life. We’re all cut from the same cloth.

        Not angry at you, but I just want to stop these kind of feelings before they get out of hand like they have in the past on this blog . :)

        • Anonymous

          Great post, thanks!  I know plenty of “baby boomers” in the same hand holding, need a hug, I deserve it all” mode.  It is not just one generation.  My does it too…..

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hanna-Watts/1683606598 Hanna Watts

            I agree.  It’s those older hand-holders raising these new generation twits, but I swear they get dumber every year.  When I was working my way through college I answered the maintenance and resident network hotline for a large state university.  Every fall approximately 20,000 kids (I was a non-traditional student) would move into campus housing 5 days before the start of the semester.  This was a very busy time for the hotline, as you can imagine.  Each year it seemed that questions got progressively stupider.  One student’s parent actually called to ask me how to turn the lamp on.

            • Anonymous

              I hope you answered “With a flouish!”.

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hanna-Watts/1683606598 Hanna Watts

              No, but that would have been awesome!

            • Anonymous

              “It’s those older hand-holders raising these new generation twits.” Yep. I’m the generation in between, and am therefore perfect, of course. ;-)

            • Kim Elmore

              Yes, we Gen X’ers RULE!!  :)

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I agree with you that generational differences are not always the cause; you can find assholes at any age.  But I do think that there’s something very different about the way my generation (28) was raised and the way past generations had been.  As a whole, I mean… individuals are a whole different story.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think it is the education; it is the helicopter parents.

        –GothamTomato

        • ginny horan

          Will you marry me?  Jesus, you must have a blog, right?  Where is it!!!  I click and don’t go to anything.  I have one so I can rant occasionally about parents of adult college-age children.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think it is the education; it is the helicopter parents.

        –GothamTomato

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P5HNP4MUD3ZNKTM5F2WQDDLZ4U BarbaraW

        I’ve seen it even in my son’s kindergarten classroom. One of his classmates is a very bright kid, advanced in both math and reading skills, but when it comes to thinking of something to draw or make or something to write about, he’s paralyzed. He can do whatever you suggest to him, but he has a terrible time thinking independently. I blame it at least partly on his “tiger mother.” They’re Asian and she’s very strict and directive.

        I don’t think it’s necessarily education that’s causing the problem, although the emphasis on teaching to the tests doesn’t help (thank you No Child Left Behind). It’s also the hovering, directive, over-involved parents. Give kids the time to play on their own. Let them be bored and have to think of something to do without jumping in to entertain them. And for God’s sake, turn off the tv.

      • Anonymous

        I agree, and I see it with teens and 20-somethings that I work with and supervise. I would say it’s a combination of education (from the administrative level down) and parenting. Not quite fair to lay it all on teachers. ;-)  Less hand-holding and more letting-them-make mistakes would go a long way to instilling critical thinking and problem-solving skills.

        • Anonymous

          I teach high school English, and I reference Project Runway often.  It mirrors the writing process (prewriting, drafting, revising, editing, publishing).  Actually, I run my Creative Writing I class very much like Project Runway with the assignments being like challenges, etc.   But I see this in my students, and much of it is the pressure on teachers to make kids accountable on state tests.  Yes, mastery of basic skills is important, but so is creativity and imagination.  The imagination part is something I’m very concerned about. 

          • http://random.world-building.net Melanie S.

            Man, you kick one of your kids out of the class every week?!  ;)

          • Anonymous

            OH MY GOD YOU HAVE JUST GIVEN ME THE BEST IDEA EVER. Teaching a writing-intensive undergrad class this fall; I’m thinking some PR-style “challenges” would be killer adapted as writing assignments. ESPECIALLY those hideously sneaky ones where designers have to swap projects midstream. hee hee hee! I WILL MAKE THOSE KIDS LEARN TO WRITE A THESIS STATEMENT IF IT KILLS ME (and by me, I mean them).

      • Anonymous

        I think the shift to standardized testing is partly at fault here – when you teach all year to a test (which you do because your school’s budget depends on the results!), the students end up thinking that everything has step-by-step instructions and only one right way to do things to get the one right answer.  I get (college) students pulling that crap with me, too – the “you didn’t tell us how you wanted XYZ done” – when what I DID do was say: “Use MLA-style citation. Here’s where you can find out what that is if you don’t already know.” gack.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I will never understand how it can be more important to be able to give a date for a historic event than to be able to analyze the implications of it. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

      Wow, I must have missed that little comment. Going to have to watch that part again! Wasn’t Blayne a Mormon as well? 

      As for Anya… Yeah. I don’t trust her one bit. I don’t think the judging on a curve is going to last. And that was not a top 3 outfit. But you know how they do! Maximum tension. I predict next week all bets wil be off, and at some point that shtick is going to bite her in the ass.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCJEZMOV4VYMXC5WJALLZNYEB4 Mari Rose

        Yes, the short guy with glasses is also a Mormon. 

        • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

          Haha! I mean “Girlicious” Blayne, remember him? His personality was a bit of a put on, and that wasn’t even really his name. He was hiding the religious stuff…

        • Anonymous

          I thought he was an ex-Mormon.  I’m curious to see the dynamic between the Mormon and the ex-Mormon.

        • http://twitter.com/evilkorova evilkorova

          He’s from Twin Falls, ID, a very mormon community. He said his extended family is a mormon. So either he used to be mormon and has distanced himself form it, or his parents did. E

      • Anonymous

        Yes, they’re both Mormon’s. And hipster girl escaped from some bizarro cult (though haven’t we all – the one I escaped from was called, ‘The Suburbs’).

        –GothamTomato

        • http://summerborn.livejournal.com/ Summer Born

          Wait, which girl is “hipster girl”? Fallene of the crazy trousers? Becky with blue hair? Cecilia the nasty?

          • Anonymous

            The one with the short blonde hair and glasses, who said she grew up in a Christian cult.

            –GothamTomato

          • Eclectic Mayhem

            Becky Blue Hair is the cult escapee.  I like her, BRING IT Becky!

            • Anonymous

              Speaking of Becky. Did anyone besides me think she looked hella better in the morning with no makeup? She’s 38, and when she was first presented, I thought she was closer to 58. When she showed up with no makeup she suddenly looked even younger than 38. Why would a woman want to make herself look 20 years older? 

            • Anonymous

              I thought the same thing about Becky. I also thought Anya looked younger without all her makeup. 

            • ginny horan

              OMG – YES!!!  I’m trying so hard to look younger, why on earth would you do ANYTHING to look older…I guess she just doesn’t know??? Oh and completely off topic, what is with the 30 something women not dying their hair?  I keep seeing this around town.  Between that and borrowing their husband’s sweatpants, they look like ice road truckers.  Well, a little worse actually!  

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Well, not everyone likes dying their hair — I can live with that.  But your clothes should AT LEAST fit! 

              A lot of very young women try to look older.  I did until I was about 23.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          LOL.  I live in the suburbs and I kid you not, everyone in my neighborhood is SO alike it’s creepy.  They drive the same cars, they have the same haircut, they wear the same clothes!  It’s so freaking bizarre.  But downtown Chicago is really expensive in neighborhood with great schools :(

    • Anonymous

      I’m obsessed with the girl on top.

    • http://twitter.com/londonpenguin Teresa MacDonald

      Thank you! I’m glad someone else could see that those pants were awful. I mean, if they were truly the very first pair of pants she had ever constructed, then they’re pretty darn good. But as pants overall? Eucch! The waistband-to-crotch seam is like a foot long. And the pleats gave the model polterwang. And that gap in the back …   Still, at least she’s interesting.

      • aimee_parrott

        *snort* Polterwang!

      • Anonymous

        As bad as Anya’s pants were, Laura’s were way worse.  I cringed in horror when they came sashaying down the runway.

        • Anonymous

          They looked like the model had lost some weight and had to pin her pants on the side :/

      • http://twitter.com/Merneith Merneith

        You are my new hero for introducing me to “polterwang”.

        • http://twitter.com/londonpenguin Teresa MacDonald

          Alas, I can’t take credit for “polterwang.” I think it came from the Fug Girls.

    • Amanda B

      Ahahaha, I could stare at that photo of Nina all day.

    • Alison Jalbert

      Oh TLo, I’m so glad to hear you thought Anya’s pants were hideous. As I’m sitting there listening to Queen Tangerine, Nina and Heidi gush over them, I thought I needed to get my lens prescription updated. Shapeless, unflattering, and just awful.

      • Tonia Smith

        Me too!!!! I didn’t get what they were gushing over. Her pants were OKAY but not the great fitting pants they were falling all over themselves over. Overall a nice outfit but it needed a few tweeks.No hate on Bert(?) but I did not like the dress and am not sure how it won the challege.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCJEZMOV4VYMXC5WJALLZNYEB4 Mari Rose

      Wait. I thought the pants were made from the cotton/poly sheets, not the silk nightgown. Did I miss something?

    • http://profiles.google.com/denise.alden Denise Alden

      Those pants are terrible!  Those pleats, the crotch, etc.  I just didn’t get all the praise toward them at all.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you, I thought WTF when they were going on and on about how great those pants were last night.  I think if you are going to be on this show, everyone is judged equally, not based upon what you tell the judges.  It could all be BS, for all they know.  I think she did an okay job, and the top was pretty good, but come on, especially you, Nina!

    • https://profiles.google.com/104791269167429064986 Judy S

      Missed the “right girl” comment. Fascinating.
      As for Anya, she didn’t “decide to make silk pants.” She decided to make pants out of the sheet, but the silk was what she had to work with.
      I am a bit irritated by the references to the problems of working with silk–isn’t it really the problem of working with satin or charmeuse or chiffon, rather than with silk? Aren’t some silk weaves perfectly easy to work with?

      • Anonymous

        Yes in fact most silks are perfectly easy to work with.  And silk chiffon and crepe are FAR easier to work than their poly or rayon counterparts.  I have found silks a joy to work because the integrity of the fibers is so great that they are structurally very sound and can stay stable even under a lot of manipulation.  As for silk satin; well its another story and its called “basting stitches” lol

    • http://profiles.google.com/dchockeyguy Trevor Burroughs

      My husband walked in part way through my watching it, sees him, and says something like “oh, another gay guy.”  I had to look at him, try to keep a straight face, and tell him he’s straight.  Though I think my real line was “He just needs to come out of the closet.”

      • Toni Mitt

        My Hubs and I had that EXACT conversation during the show. 

    • Anonymous

      The back of his shirt was white? 

      As to Anya – I had to disagree with people who automatically assumed she was lying because the pants she made were not Trouser or jean style with a fly/waistband pockets, etc and I thought just from the show that they were a decent first attempt (and likely necessary considering the judges comments) but far from a demonstration that she’d been lying.   

    • http://badkittyknits.blogspot.com KittyKnits

      And Mr. LDS Clean needs to listen to “Turn It Off” from _The Book of Mormon_ (with his satire button turned ON).

    • http://twitter.com/CestmoiLola Stacey Noel

      TLo, you made my day with that Nina-cap! Thank you!

    • Anonymous

      I’m not touching the “waiting for the right girl” comment. He’ll be fun to keep around for a bit seeing as he showed so many sides of his personality in the first episode. Didn’t he also yell “I love you” to his model as she passed him on the runway?

      This was the first time in 7 seasons that I correctly picked the top & bottom three.

    • Joyce VG

      The judges praised Anya way too much.  She looks like a model and maybe they have soft spots for models or something.  How can you learn to just sew and then sew PANTS.  Silk pants?  Under pressure? In all PR seasons pants have been designers’ albatross.  Yeah, something is fishy with her. I won’t think she’s brilliant if she’s lying about her skill level, to me then she’s just a liar.   And I’m glad they let the sweet Mormon stay.  Closet and all.

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Honestly, I’ve never been clear on what the problem with pants is.  I mean, I know there are easier things than pants, but it’s not like they’re the hardest thing to make either.

        • Anonymous

          It’s not that pants are difficult to sew; depending on their construction they can be relatively simple.  But pants are deceptively difficult to FIT.  Even on a perfectly proportioned body, the fit of a trouser can be a booger.  You can always narrow the sides or let them out (if you have enough seam allowance) to change the circumference, but the depth and width of the crotch curve can only be modified very slightly after the fabric is cut.  That’s why we see so many insane crotches. 

          And for other who are questioning the difficulty of sewing on silk, it doesn’t really matter what the fiber content is, it’s more of an issue of the textile itself.  As somebody said earlier, sewing on polyester or silk charmeuse are both difficult.  Sewing on silk dupioni is the same as sewing on linen.

          I think Anya’s jig will be up in a few weeks.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            Well, I know fitting pants is difficult, but I can’t imagine it’s that much harder to fit pants than a fitted jacket.

          • Heather Bryan

            She didn’t really have to SEW much on the top either; the hard pleating was already on the nightgoen.  All she did was cut out the shoulders and collar and band the bottom!  

            • http://twitter.com/incolortweet In Color

              Thank you for saying that! That’s the first thing I noticed and I’m surprised none of the judges commented on it, either.

    • Joyce VG

      The judges praised Anya way too much.  She looks like a model and maybe they have soft spots for models or something.  How can you learn to just sew and then sew PANTS.  Silk pants?  Under pressure? In all PR seasons pants have been designers’ albatross.  Yeah, something is fishy with her. I won’t think she’s brilliant if she’s lying about her skill level, to me then she’s just a liar.   And I’m glad they let the sweet Mormon stay.  Closet and all.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KCDEX4FOTCFHZP6WLKSOOKUVM Danielle

      Those pants were not good.  The top was decent, but not enough to bring the whole look into the Top 3.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3KCDEX4FOTCFHZP6WLKSOOKUVM Danielle

      Those pants were not good.  The top was decent, but not enough to bring the whole look into the Top 3.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for the validation! When Miss I Went to the Miss Universe Pageant’s outfit hit the runway, I thought the pants were going to be scorched for their terrible fit. But I don’t sew–I buy, so when she was chosen to be in the top three, I doubted my own perceptions. However, one of the other designers sitting close to her said, “First time making pants?” So the appearance of this outfit and Uniball’s Gross Mess With Pubic Patch in the top three tells me that one of two things is going on:
      1. The judges momentarily lost their crack pipe, making it possible for Bert to win. But then they found it again.
      2. The Gretchen Virus, which so many thought had been eradicated, is still coursing through the judges’ bloodstreams.

      As for Mormon Josh, I just hope he isn’t thinking of going to Michelle Bachman’s husband’s Queer-No-More Christian counseling center.  Josh, you are clearly a sweet and good-hearted man. You are also as gay as a Maypole. You need to focus on finding the right man and adopting some kids who will be forever grateful that they have such a wonderful dad.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for the validation! When Miss I Went to the Miss Universe Pageant’s outfit hit the runway, I thought the pants were going to be scorched for their terrible fit. But I don’t sew–I buy, so when she was chosen to be in the top three, I doubted my own perceptions. However, one of the other designers sitting close to her said, “First time making pants?” So the appearance of this outfit and Uniball’s Gross Mess With Pubic Patch in the top three tells me that one of two things is going on:
      1. The judges momentarily lost their crack pipe, making it possible for Bert to win. But then they found it again.
      2. The Gretchen Virus, which so many thought had been eradicated, is still coursing through the judges’ bloodstreams.

      As for Mormon Josh, I just hope he isn’t thinking of going to Michelle Bachman’s husband’s Queer-No-More Christian counseling center.  Josh, you are clearly a sweet and good-hearted man. You are also as gay as a Maypole. You need to focus on finding the right man and adopting some kids who will be forever grateful that they have such a wonderful dad.

    • Anonymous

      Totally agree that something is afoot with Anya.  But i do hope whatever she’s hiding, she sticks around for one of Tim’s patented NEVER BEFORE IN THE HISTORY…  moments.  

      Joshua’s firmly in the Chaff pool… those designers that mill about, serving only to keep talented designers who make one or two mistakes from being eliminated too early. 

      More NinaCaps!  Love that they tried to edit her into eye fucking poor deluded Rafael.  It was Rafael, wasn’t it?

    • Anonymous

      Totally agree that something is afoot with Anya.  But i do hope whatever she’s hiding, she sticks around for one of Tim’s patented NEVER BEFORE IN THE HISTORY…  moments.  

      Joshua’s firmly in the Chaff pool… those designers that mill about, serving only to keep talented designers who make one or two mistakes from being eliminated too early. 

      More NinaCaps!  Love that they tried to edit her into eye fucking poor deluded Rafael.  It was Rafael, wasn’t it?

      • ginny horan

        Yes – it was Rafael and that whole part just killed me, hysterical.  One, that any woman would eye-f Rafael, and two, that Nina Garcia would eye-F ANYBODY, ever.  I love delusional people like Rafael.

        • http://twitter.com/Varekai97X Jill Keller

          I kept thinking, “No dear, that’s Nina’s ‘I’m trying to stay awake’ face.”

          • ginny horan

            Jill – bwahahahahahaha.  Exactly!

    • ginny horan

      Yay!  I wasn’t the only one stunned by the “right girl” remark!  Fav line from this post:  this isn’t the special olympics of sewing!  ROFL

    • Anonymous

      Is Mr. LDS still a member of the church?  I didn’t really catch that last night.  If he is, then he really is waiting for the right girl because unmarried sex is an offense that can get you excommunicated.  It’s not wrong to BE gay, according to the LDS; it’s just wrong to have the gay sex.  I live in a very conservative Christian town (thank you, local Bible college!), and that seems to be the prevailing attitude here, too.  Ah, conservative religions, you’d be hilarious if you won’t so scary.  As for the show last night, I hated Blondie. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

        Yep, it’s God’s will that you spend your entire life miserable and ashamed and fighting yourself constantly.  And if you aren’t willing to do so because of one interpretation of a book written millenia ago by people you’ve never met but are supposed to trust absolutely to tell you the truth about where it came from… well then you’re a terrible person who deserves persecution.

        No problem whatsoever with remembering one version in Leviticus, but somehow the entire message of the New Testament escapes them.

        • Toto Maya

          Not to mention forgetting all of the other lines in Leviticus that ban eating shellfish and mixing fabrics. But when you bring that up they say, “Well the New Testament abolished all of those rules!” Except, for some reason, the homophobic ones.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L35C4UIBKQVYTYVO7A7XTORBV4 Mark

        A design competition, and all we can talk about is Josh’s religion, claim to be heterosexual, and the education system? Well I’m no better than the rest, so I’ll join in. I actually happen to be a gay Mormon (served a mission, graduated from BYU, but then fell in love with a man, stopped going to church and live a very happy, openly gay life with a wonderful relationship with my family including my parents who volunteer at the temple and my father who is a patriarch and former bishop).

        My point being that not all members of the religion are as oppressive as you are all making them out to be.

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          I’m sorry if I gave the impression that my problem was with LDS.  I’ve actually met a lot of very tolerant, wonderful people who happen to be Mormons.  My statement was referring to the religious homophobes, regardless of what church they go to.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=538336654 Joe ‘Brosef’ Smith

      I thought Anya was getting the losers edit. My thoughts were confirmed when I saw those pants. The judges cannot stop smoking crack.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        I firmly believe that it was not the judges that put her in the top. PRODUCER MANIPULATION.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know if I think Anya is lying, but I wonder if she’s exaggerating a bit as to what ‘never sewed before’ really means. She’s certainly working it to her advantage.  In any case, that was a fab top. 

      And I actually think that Josh should have gone instead of Rafael.  I just can’t get past those bloated pms-day shorts!

    • Anonymous

      I think the judges were pretty kind to Anya.  Her pants are huge on her model and the top only looks well done from the back.

      Joshua is a lucky man, the shorts front is awful.

    • Anonymous

      THANK YOU for the pants comments- when I was watching last night, I worried I had one glass too many and was imagining the horrible fit issues.

      • Anonymous

        Allj,

        No, looking at those pants was sufficient to cause one to drink. TLo said it right: These pants are TERRIBLE”

        I honestly questioned our cable reception as the judges were raving about those pants, was I missing something fabulous? Those pants sure did look craptastic to me!

        The piece I’m not liking is that this business of saying “oh, I just learned to sew four months ago” undercuts, IMO, the folks with the real design experience. I keep remember kenley and the issues she had and Tim’s comments about her not having had the experience of design school kept her from having an understanding of constructive criticism. Not saying all contestants should be Parson’s grads but I suspect lifetime is tossing “talented amateurs” in to pump up the drama.

        srq

        • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

          Yeah, but then you have people like Seth Aaron — he was entirely self-taught and had only sewn for the first time 5 years earlier.  His construction was excellent, from what I remember.

    • aimee_parrott

      Heh — I knew I could count on seeing a screencap of that look on Nina’s face.  That cracked me up.

      There’s definitely something fishy about Miss Trinidad & Tobago.  I have a feeling she might be gaming the system, but I do have to give her props for doing it pretty darn efficiently.  I agree that the pants were hiddy and am, as always, in awe of the judges’ selective blindness. 

      The “waiting for the right girl” line made me do a spit-take.  That said, I believe him.  He’s waiting for the right girl, one with broken gaydar, who will marry him in total ignorance and make his strict Mormon family happy.

      • Anonymous

        Haven’t we had other contestants that  a bunch of people questioned (about they saying they were straight) but then when they were on for a while the comments lessened

        • aimee_parrott

          Sure.  All I can tell you, though, is that he definitely made my gaydar ping.

          • http://profiles.google.com/drunkenhousewife Drunken Housewife

            Hell, he made my eleven year-old’s gaydar pingpingping like she was in “Das Boot.”  She asked me, “Isn’t Mormonism against gay people?  How can he be so gay and be Mormon?” and kept harping on that while I, terrible mother that I am, hissed, “WAIT UNTIL THE COMMERCIALS AND ASK ME THEN.”  (And given that my knowledge of Mormon attitudes towards homosexuality is limited to having seen “Angels In America”, I had trouble giving a quality answer when the commercial break came).

            I don’t care what his sexuality or religious beliefs are, but he better not inflict any more white shorts like that one the world.  That whole outfit was screaming “bad tampon commercial.”

            • Anonymous

              ” That whole outfit was screaming “bad tampon commercial.” ”

              Oh my god, yes! And that had to be the *most insane crotch* to ever show up on PR’s runway.

              I want to give Josh the benefit of the doubt for making excuses, but that video posted upthread, in which he blames his model for everything short of the screenplay for “Glitter”, makes me think he might be an ass of monumental proportions.

            • Anonymous

              ” That whole outfit was screaming “bad tampon commercial.” ”

              Oh my god, yes! And that had to be the *most insane crotch* to ever show up on PR’s runway.

              I want to give Josh the benefit of the doubt for making excuses, but that video posted upthread, in which he blames his model for everything short of the screenplay for “Glitter”, makes me think he might be an ass of monumental proportions.

            • Anonymous

              ” That whole outfit was screaming “bad tampon commercial.” ”

              Oh my god, yes! And that had to be the *most insane crotch* to ever show up on PR’s runway.

              I want to give Josh the benefit of the doubt for making excuses, but that video posted upthread, in which he blames his model for everything short of the screenplay for “Glitter”, makes me think he might be an ass of monumental proportions.

          • ginny horan

            It made my gaydar GONG!  

      • Anonymous

        Just to be fair and keep us from drifting down a “Mormon bashing” highway, I was born into and raised very devout Missouri Synod Lutheran family.  4 of my uncles are ministers!  Believe me, the worst day of my Mothers life was the first time I came out to here at age 21.  The happiest day?  After she sent me to “counseling” with our minister and I recanted at the threat of losing my family and then GOT MARRIED TO A WOMAN.  Followed by years of drunken, drug induced, shameful illicit sex with anonymous strangers behind my wifes back.  Many churches and sects push shame and fear onto members who are gay or lesbian, not just the Mormons

        • Anonymous

          I hope you are in a happier and more honest place now.  Sending good wishes!

          • Anonymous

            Thanks, that is sweet of you.  After divorcing in 1993 and getting sober in 1997 I have a wonderful life as an open, proud, fabulous gay designer.  Who ended up with an ok relationship with his Mother.

            • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

              Good for you!  I’m so glad you were able to find the strength to not only come out, but also get sober.  Both are incredibly difficult, especially in a family or community that encourages you to push such problems aside. 

            • Anonymous

              Oh, how awful. I’m sorry you had to go through all that. It’s good to hear that you were finally able to be true to yourself and reconcile with your mother.

            • scott woodard

               Recovery gives us a life we never dreamed possible. Congratulations!

            • Anonymous

              So true Scott, so true!

        • Anonymous

          It makes me sad that you had to go through that, but happy that you got through it. Also, I agree with you regarding the singling out of the Mormon church. For instance, the Catholic church* doesn’t exactly have a great track record (officially, that is) on the subject. There’s a lot of blame to be spread around.

          *which I use as an example because I was brought up Catholic.

        • Toni Mitt

          And also to be fair–I am a member of the Lutheran Church ELCA which openly accepts gay members and ministers and preaches love and tolerance rather than forcing people into pigeonholes in which they do not belong.  I believe the Methodist Church also has a similar liberal doctirne, as does the UCC and Unitarians.  So, not all Christians are evil gay-bashers, either. 

          • Anonymous

            I don’t believe I ever stated that they were, I simply shared my experiance.  And, to be fair, there has been a large exodus of congregations from the ELCA over the adoption of allowing gay clergy in monogamous, life long committed relationships.  However, this is a discussion for another blog site, let’s just stick to the fashion.  Or lack there of.

          • http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

            The Methodist church does accept gay members but I’m not sure about the Methodist clergy.

      • tripletmom96

        and he, as a devout mormon will do his best to be a good husband and father — he may even manage to make it last but there will probably always be something missing.  it’s kind of sad really, that so many religions (believe me, it’s not just the mormans) have such taboos on being gay or lesbian.  i’ve known so many who have tried, really tried to be straight because they know that’s what’s expected of them.  usually though, eventually they just have to admit to themselves that they are gay (or lesbian) and finally settle into who they really are – often after 2 or 3 marriages and a couple of kids from different spouses…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

        Let’s all remember from whence Miss Trinidad&Tobago came. She may be a newbie at sewing, but what kind of skills has she learned from the pageant industry? She could be underestimated big time. “oh, someone suggested I should enter the pageant, and I won!” A novice at pageants and she wins? 
         I’m glad I wasn’t hallucinating when I thought she was on the bottom. Compare that outfit to all those other  “If I haven’t called your name you can leave the runway” designers. The seams on those pants were horrible, and the top was not symmetrical. 

        • http://twitter.com/oekmama Melanie Dunn-Fiedler

          Pageants in the Caribbean aren’t like pageants in the US. There is neither a talent section, nor must the girls actually be brain surgeons on study leave in order to get through. If you are a beautiful girl who is eloquent, friendly, charismatic and can think on her feet, then you have a good chance of winning. 

          What she actually said during the casting was that she had only learned to sew 4 months previously. Her pants do look like a first time attempt. She probably figured with palazzo pants, the crotch could fall anywhere and she’s get away with it. But the fastening at the back was definitely Sewing 101. She could’ve made a  maxi skirt, but she decided to go with pants. Perhaps she wanted to take the risk now and get the experience for later. Who knows.

          I think it was the lovely fabric in the top that saved her and put her in top 3, plus there was someone who made something worse than her pants. And to a certain point, that’s all you need in PR – just one person who did worse than you.

    • Anonymous

      TLo said: “We think a big part of the judges’ overreaction – aside from their very low expectations of her – was that she’s beautiful and has a unique personal style. A model, designer, and fashion editor are naturally going to respond well to her.”

      Also, she appears to have the kind of personality that will bring the drama. If everybody were quiet and sweet, we wouldn’t have a show.

      Those white shorts look even worse in these pictures than they did last night on TV! Or maybe it was the wine. Regardless, they’re giving that thin model a spare tire! They must be burned!

    • http://twitter.com/TheRedZavodnik Ginger

      Thank goodness you said something about those craptastic pants.  Hello bulging crotch as she walked!  HIDEOUS.

    • http://twitter.com/drnels Nels P. Highberg

      Is it not possible for someone to find out that they have talent at something?  You can learn to sew in four months if you have talent and time to practice.  I’m not seeing the big deal.

      And, really, attacking a contestant’s supposed sexuality in an age where people are being bullied to death?  Let people be what they want to be or say they are when they are in situations where it ultimately doesn’t matter. 

      • Anonymous

        I agree. I hope, if he is gay, that he comes out, feels good about that and is free to be who he is. But, he could very well be straight. He is in the business where he can come out and it will be ok. There are straight male designers (Jeffrey, Joe) and just because he’s not married everyone keeps mentioning how gay he must be. Let’s let him proclaim that if, and when, the time is right for him.

    • Anonymous

      Special Olympics of Sewing!  Nina cap!

      Oh, how I have missed your Project Runway coverage.  Thanks so much.

    • margaret meyers

      She had the lowest crotch imaginable on those pants, but at least the judges couldn’t complain about camel toe.  Were those originally high-waisted pants that she pulled down onto the hips?  
      I agree with TLO — I think the judges were fawning on her because of the way she looks — she looks like she’s in the industry so they treated her like she was in the industry. 
       

    • Anonymous

      Everyone has already said practically everything I’m thinking. Except: I heart Anya’s hair something awful. I’m tempted to break out the clippers right now and copy it.

      • Anonymous

        I’m begging you – DON”T!  That was soooo 10 years ago.

      • Anonymous

        I’m begging you – DON”T!  That was soooo 10 years ago.

    • MilaXX

      I’m going to give Ms.Trini the benefit of the doubt with reservations  for now. Some people actually do manage to pick up things fairly quickly. It was a cute look and compare to some of the other stuff, nit bad.

      I’m still not sure about Josh, in fact I was a little surprised he wasn’t one of the ones cut. The wifey comment aside, I also suspect he’s gonna be one of the criers this season as well.

    • Anonymous

      I call Shenanigans! Anya being put in the top 3 was just plain obnoxious. Cute is only going to get her so far. Where was that black and white dress? 

    • Anonymous

      Nina explained a lot when she praised Anya’s ‘taste’. To go far in Project Runway you need a combination of ‘taste’ (however the judges are currently defining it) and execution skills.  If Anya continues with interesting ideas then she’s going to get through the next few rounds while those without taste get winnowed out, until she’s up against those with both taste and execution skills (such as Bert). And you can probably learn a lot in a 4 month crash course in sewing skills if you really apply yourself, I’ve never understand why more of the contestants with dubious execution skills don’t
      more often put themselves through ‘sewing boot camp’ once they know they’re on the show .

    • Anonymous

      I don’t believe that the Mormon guy is sweet or decent at all.  A decent person doesn’t whine that his competitors didn’t tell him his work was awful, and he certainly doesn’t do that dramamama weepy bullshit when he’s in as another contestant is cut.  I know that’s standard behavior on this show but I consistently loathe all of those who give into it, especially week 1.

      I also think he pretty much lied to the judges when claiming that the raised seam center panel was done because of fit issues with the model.  I haven’t watched the show a second time, but I believe that was a design feature, not a way to get the garment to fit.  And I also think the FUPA-creating shirts but especially the teeny-tiny athletic bolero was in dreadful taste, and that his taste issues were as glaring as those of the aufee.  Bah!

      • Anonymous

        The center panel was a part of the initial design, but it was much smaller to begin with.  He did a crap job of choosing where and how to let the shirt out, because he should’ve left that panel alone.  It looked fine when it was smaller.  Not great, but okay.  

    • Anonymous

      I thought Uncle Fester should have gone home. That top, with the sewn in Oh-God-I-made-this-too-small-to-fit-the-model panel, was all kinds’a fug.
      Anya impressed me, but apparently I think immaculate sewing skills can be learned in four months. I’m wondering how she’ll do overall.

    • Anonymous

      I thought Uncle Fester should have gone home. That top, with the sewn in Oh-God-I-made-this-too-small-to-fit-the-model panel, was all kinds’a fug.
      Anya impressed me, but apparently I think immaculate sewing skills can be learned in four months. I’m wondering how she’ll do overall.

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: Maybe he really IS just waiting for the right girl.”

      True Story: My grandmother went through a phase where she wanted to ix me up with Barry Manilow. Seriously. She even wrote to him, telling him she wanted to introduce him to her granddaughter. I told her that I didn’t think I was (ahem) ‘his type’, and she said I was being ridiculous, that he just needed to meet the right girl. Of course, whenever asked about his love life, Manilow says the great love of his life was his dog, Bagel (causing Rick Santorum to gasp and clutch his pearls in giddy exitement).

      And my grandmother always felt the same way about Liberace. I come from a long line of fruit flies (& fruits).

      –GothamTomato

    • Anonymous

      “Tlo said: Maybe he really IS just waiting for the right girl.”

      True Story: My grandmother went through a phase where she wanted to ix me up with Barry Manilow. Seriously. She even wrote to him, telling him she wanted to introduce him to her granddaughter. I told her that I didn’t think I was (ahem) ‘his type’, and she said I was being ridiculous, that he just needed to meet the right girl. Of course, whenever asked about his love life, Manilow says the great love of his life was his dog, Bagel (causing Rick Santorum to gasp and clutch his pearls in giddy exitement).

      And my grandmother always felt the same way about Liberace. I come from a long line of fruit flies (& fruits).

      –GothamTomato

    • Anonymous

      And btw, I’m glad you guys hated the pants!

      –GothamTomato

    • Anonymous

      Apparently, they have all lost their minds over at the PR site at lifetime.com!  Anya is leading the “fan favorite” poll with 31% followed by Bert with 16%.  I don’t get it, her pants sucked, she possibly has a shady side to her sewing skills story and, quite frankly, she’s not THAT pretty.   Maybe by “fan fave” they mean “most likely to provide entertaining drama”.

      • Anonymous

        She was at 44% before the show aired.  A beauty queen with a sex tape is likely to have a fan base coming in.  And she seems likable, despite my inherent bias against pageant girls in general.

      • Anonymous

        I think you want mylifetime.com.

    • Anonymous

      I was troubled by Anya’s crotch issues as well, but then remembered that I’ve seen pants like that coming down runways lately and was equally taken aback – this isn’t the best example – http://www1.bloomingdales.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=544096 – but it makes the case that these, I think, really ugly crotchal monstrosities are “on trend”…and that’s what our dear judges care most about it seems. As for Anya’s skill level – who knows? I was thinking as they were showing her struggling with the commercial machine that it would make SO much sense to rent one of those (or whatever) to practice on if you were trying out for PR. But that’s just me – I’m an over-planner like that. I like her style and so far she doesn’t seem too bitchy – but the show is young! Love the recaps T Lo!

      • Anonymous

        Thanks, crash:  I have a new word in my vocabulary:  crotchal.

        • Anonymous

          me too

    • http://twitter.com/DaggerMitten Laur.

      HaHA! The still of Nina is amazoes! Great recap.

    • Anonymous

      I was flabbergasted at their praise of those pants.  I thought I was missing something.  The crotch looks off.  And by off like she is a tranny who doesn’t feel like taping downstairs off.  The straps on the top were screwed up too.  I just didn’t get it at all.  I did LOVE Sir Gunn being all horrified when she said she had only been sewing for 4 months.

    • Anonymous

      I wanted to give Mr. Mormon a slap when he tried to blame his mistakes on not being instructed.

    • http://summerborn.livejournal.com/ Summer Born

      Josh Mormon was a banker for 6 years… he TOTALLY seems like he could be fully in the closet of self-denial, for years. You’re right, him saying something in front of the other queens would be priceless.

      • Logo Girl

        I thought he said he did “spanking”, not “banking”. lol.

    • Anonymous

      I’m sorry. To quote Tim Gunn “I was HORRIFIED” when I saw the judges praising Miss Universe’s pants. They were AWFUL, as were just about everyone else’s pants. I didn’t see that her pants were that much better than Snowboard Girl’s, except that Miss Universe had a nicer top to go with her hot mess. To put her into the top three was wrong on every level. I’m also not buying the “Only sewing for 4 months” story either, unless she had intensive training for those 4 months, like a Fashion Boot Camp, which I suppose is possible, but still…
      As for Mr. Clean, I had to rewind my DVR when I thought I heard him say he was waiting for the right girl. I almost choked on that one.  Still tightly locked in that closet, eh?

      • BuffaloBarbara

        To put her into the top three was wrong on every level

        The fashion show went by so fast, and  I haven’t re-watched yet, so I seriously don’t remember–whose was a lot better and should have been there?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Shields/1200782178 Michelle Shields

      There’s something a little “off” about this girl. Did she say that she made some of her pageant clothes? If so, then somebody is should be growing Pinocchio’s nose. You definitely need more than basic sewing skills for that. I think she’s playing a big sympathy card for the judges. Can’t wait to see how far this one goes! 

      • Anonymous

        I believe she said she helped design her pageant clothes, which is very different from actually having to construct them.

    • Anonymous

      I just hope that Barbie bint is auf’d soon. I can’t stand her.

      • Anonymous

        Seconding that.  She’s like nails on a chalkboard. Ugh.

      • Anonymous

        Perhaps, but her outfit (especially the pants) were from a similar base as Anya’s and about a million times better. She really transformed her silk outfit didn’t just cut it smaller.

      • Anonymous

        Is Laura Kathleen this season’s Alison? If she is auf’d, will she blame Heidi for being jealous of her blonde beauty? Time will tell.

    • Anonymous

      My, Oh my…more clothes from the Macy’s INC collection. ICK. I don’t get all the praise for MS Trini but that is how the PR edits role. She is being set up in a story arch…most likey about the truth behind her sewing skills. But Ms Trini has learned that personalities stay on the show….there are plenty of dullards who will be cast off before her.

      The moron Mormon’s outfit looked like it shrunk in the wash. Model walked a bit odd like if she moved a little, the clothes would explode off her.

      Now, when is the Chris March show?

    • Anonymous

      Best Nina cap ever.

      • Anonymous

        And we need real NinaCaps, and soon!

    • Logo Girl

      I think I’ve put my finger on what bothers me about Anya. I don’t doubt she is one of those odd people who picks things up quickly. It also turns out she studied graphic design or interior design (or something) before that. Design skills can sometimes translate. The weird part is, if you listen to her interviews, she already is “there” as a designer. She says she “wakes up in the morning and is so happy this is her JOB.” I get the feeling she is just this sponsored girl with a sugar daddy – her stuff does not really need to be designed to sell and she does everything on a whim. “Oh, Daddy, let me take four months of sewing classes! i wanna be on Project Runway!” “Sure babydoll – anything you want!” Who knows, maybe she makes it to the finale. But it just smells weird.

    • http://phantomminuet.blogspot.com/ MinAgain

      Thank goodness, TLo.  I thought I was losing my mind.  I couldn’t believe how the judges raved about those poorly-fitted, ugly-while-in-motion pants. 

    • http://twitter.com/susanpcollier Susan Collier

      I liked Mr Clean’s hoodie shrug, but the other stuff was boring AND horrifying.
      When the model revealed the backside of Anya’s pants, I did a spit-take. It looks like she put them on backwards. Still trying to figure out the top; it looked like she used the entire collar as the straps. Like, but do not love.

    • Anonymous

      I laughed hysterically when Josh said he wished someone had told him it looked bad.  Boy, have you ever watched this show?  Are you familiar with the concept of a competition?  Besides that, just LOOK at those shorts!  You shouldn’t need anybody to tell you that looks awful.  Good grief.  Agreeing with others that something about Anya’s “omg I’ve never done this before” schtick seems terribly suspicious.  Then again, her pants were nothing compared to the fucking MERKIN SKIRT the judges also praised, but they certainly weren’t as well-constructed as the judges seemed to think.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        Hello!! Thank you! Merkin skirt indeed!!! WTF!?? Waiting for TLo’s take on THAT one…

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

          I did not understand the praise for that skirt-it looked as if Anthony Ryan had somehow found an oversize sporran from a Scottish shop and slapped it right smack in the middle of that skirt.

    • Amanda in Austin

      Wait. What? He’s trying to push the “I’m straight” story? Really?  I missed that part.  Because all through last night’s show (yes, I’ll admit I watched it) I was thinking to myself, “Hmmm….this is the first season without a single straight guy in the bunch.”

      Also, I only watched last night to get a feel for all the contestants so that as I read TLo’s blog, I have an idea of who is who. I am not planning to watch on a weekly basis unless TLo tell me I’m missing something awesome.

      Also, also: I agree that something is UP with Miss I’ve Never Sewn Silk Blah BLAH BLAH!  I think she’s trying to mislead everyone so that she gets to use the handicapped parking space, as it were.  Also, here pants were horrific. The crotch was INSANE, and Kors said not one word about it. Or, if he did say something, they edited that bit out.

      Last thing: as the seasons of PR go along, the way the judges critique and what they get pissy about seems to shift quite a bit. Who knows what their pet peeve will be this season? Clearly it’s not shitastic crotches on pants made of sheets.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        I wish it was AssZippers, but it’s looking like we’re going to have to endure one more season of that. :/

        Also, I am watching again and still haven’t found the “right girl” reference either. Was it during the casting “preshow”? Becasue that is not online, or if it is, I can’t find it…

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          He said it while he was playing with some children on a swingset. I guess they must be nieces and nephews. I remember he said it, and they cut to him playing with some kids, and there were some people there. I thought at first he was going to intro them as his own family. It may have been during the preshow, can’t remember. It was a  home visit type thing.

          • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

            Ah, well that it explains it. I am going to have to track down the casting special. I wanted to watch it anyway, but now I am even more intrigued… Thanks!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

          He said it while he was playing with some children on a swingset. I guess they must be nieces and nephews. I remember he said it, and they cut to him playing with some kids, and there were some people there. I thought at first he was going to intro them as his own family. It may have been during the preshow, can’t remember. It was a  home visit type thing.

    • BuffaloBarbara

      I was surprised to find that I actually like Anya, and… sort of believe her.  Not that she’s not going to use it to get whatever advantage she can, but somehow, I find “I just learned to sew” less annoying than “I only have one testicle” in terms of “Ways to get camera time and judge attention.”  I was expecting her to be bitchy and entitled, and instead, she seems  a little insecure, and desperate to prove herself as good as the others, not better.  I don’t know how long she’ll last if she doesn’t fix the execution issues, but at the moment… she’s got my support.  At least until she does something that puts me back in the other frame of mind.

      That said, she should always be referred to as the Blessed Virgin Anya. ;p

      And yeah, the pants were pretty bad. I always hate palazzo pants–I can’t think of anything less attractive, even when made well–though, so I thought maybe it was me.

      I could have gone either way on the bottom two guys.  They both sucked, and so did Madam Ski Pants.

    • Anonymous

      I saw it the same way, T Lo.  The crotch shelf on Anya’s pants as the model walked was so distracting.  She wouldn’t have been in my top 3 either, but I too loved the back of the top.  

      Bald Mormom seems like he’s in serious denial.  I bet it’s his strategy for being gay and wanting to stay Mormon which is probably a tough, tough thing to do so I’ll cut him some slack.  His design, however, gets no slack from me.  It was heinous.    

    • Anonymous

      I’m kind of shocked that the judges didn’t call Anya on basically recutting the top of her pajamas into another top. It’s not like when Christian Siriano repurposed the arms of a denim jacket into the legs of a new pair of jeans.  I guess the judges were relieved that she at least sent something down the runway that wasn’t an unfinished mess, dripping glue and safety pins.

      Then again I’m shocked that the judges didn’t call out perky chick on the clown-puking-a-rainbow dress. I would have loved to hear what the Duchess would have quipped for that.

      • Anonymous

        I wonder if they even noticed the puking clown.

      • Anonymous

        I wonder if they even noticed the puking clown.

    • Anonymous

      I posted this in the lounge in response to another but it fits better here.

      In regards to Anya:

      In a couple weeks we’ll find out that by ‘learning to sew’ she meant
      with a machine, she’d been sewing by hand since her grandmother handed
      her a needle and thread at the age of 4.

      Though she did say that
      while she sewed everything she had a lot of help. I imagine then its
      possible she had a teacher and if she has the resources and the drive
      she could have spent a solid 4 months(plus however much time there was
      between casting call and filming of the first episode) doing nothing but
      perfecting her skills.(Like a celebrity who says it only took me 2wks
      to lose 20lbs of baby fat and get my flat stomach, while not mentioning
      the Nanny, personal Chef and 8hr a day Personal Trainer.) So far though
      she is coming across as sweet and self-deprecating in her talking heads
      so I’m perfectly happy to see her do well.

      • http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

        That makes a lot of sense.

    • Anonymous

      Both looks are too complicated for no reason. Just because you have three types of fabric, doesn’t mean you have to use them all. I don’t think anyone on Earth would wear either outfit. And they certainly aren’t “artistic”.
      I just drove 1300 miles and I’m super grouchy. PS I didn’t get to see the show last night because the flea bag motel I stayed at didn’t have Showtime!

      • Anonymous

        I wholeheartely agree, SS. And I know what you mean about being grouchy and having missed the show(s). I didn’t get to watch the premiere last night (first time in nine seasons!) because my blasted cable went out. I followed along via Twitter and through the blogs, but it certainly was not the same. Looking forward to watching it online and through On Demand tonight. I see it’s also on tomorrow.

      • Anonymous

        I wholeheartely agree, SS. And I know what you mean about being grouchy and having missed the show(s). I didn’t get to watch the premiere last night (first time in nine seasons!) because my blasted cable went out. I followed along via Twitter and through the blogs, but it certainly was not the same. Looking forward to watching it online and through On Demand tonight. I see it’s also on tomorrow.

      • Anonymous

        I wholeheartely agree, SS. And I know what you mean about being grouchy and having missed the show(s). I didn’t get to watch the premiere last night (first time in nine seasons!) because my blasted cable went out. I followed along via Twitter and through the blogs, but it certainly was not the same. Looking forward to watching it online and through On Demand tonight. I see it’s also on tomorrow.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMEB3XKJCE4WL62SKN473LWBXQ Frank

      Doesn’t anyone else absolutely LOVE Nina’s necklace? That thing’s awesome!

    • sweetlilvoice

      Totally agree with your assessment on Ms. Trinidad and Tobago Sex Tape Designer. Girl knows what she’s doing and those pants were crap. Ditto on Mr. Clean, thought he was a goner for sure and they would keep Ringo Jr. instead.

      I loved her earrings though!

      • margaret meyers

        Ooooo, snap!

    • Anonymous

      The best time of year? Okay, probably Christmas. But second-best? Gotta be a tie between autumn/Halloween and a new season of TLo PR bitchery. Heaven.

      Endless thanks for pointing out the hideosity of these pants. I kept thinking, “Is it just me, or…?” The pleats were gaping and unflattering, the rise was waaaaayyyyyy too long. In fact, there was some serious Insane Crotch in almost every single pair of pants that went down that runway. 

    • Anonymous

      If Mr. Clean really is a gay Mormon towing the LDS line, then the challenge I’d love to see him have to compete in would be designing wedding clothes for a gay couple getting married in one of those pop-up chapels in Central Park!

      Come to think of it, that would be a great challenge with or without him.  With the passage of marriage equality in NY, great time for the fashion world to inject some creativity into “wedding clothes”….

      • Anonymous

        That fashion show with Isaac Mizrahi and Iman (can’t remember the name of it) did a challenge last year where they had to design wedding outfits for real-life gay couples, male and female.  The designs were pretty interesting, as I recall, and were based on the clients’ wishes.

        • Anonymous

          Oh, they did?  I never did watch that show.  I think I was still in my Never Again phase following last season’s PR that I couldn’t get up the interest to watch.  Maybe PR wouldn’t want to do the same challenge, but it would be a shame since the timing is so perfect.  There are even design contests for the pop-up chapels, so it would be great to see some creative wedding outfits in them.

    • http://profiles.google.com/bratling2 Laura Davies

      I didn’t get the pants praise, either.  Didn’t they yell about the butt-zipper last season? Pleat-fronts make even models look fat, the crotch is located nowhere near the model’s anatomical crotch, the fit is baggy, to put it nicely, and they’re long enough that I half-expected the model to step on them and fall arse-over-teakettle on the runway!  I’m not sure I buy the not knowing how to sew thing, but I will say that putting a topstitched hem on silk is a crime against fabric!  Pants, unless they’re pajama pants, are not the easiest thing in the world to make.  Honestly?  She would’ve been better off with an a-line skirt with some of that nice pleating detail she put on the top!

      As for Mr. Clean, well, I agree that his look wasn’t good.  And he’ll most likely never make it anywhere near the top three.  After all, with his background, sooner or later, he’s going to get the “boring and safe” label.

      Does make me think, though…  what exactly would one of us have ended up with if we’d done this challenge?  ;) I’m sure nobody would’ve been impressed by my ice cream jammies that my then two-year-old-niece gave me!

      • Anonymous

        It makes me think I need to upgrade my nighttime attire! And can you imagine walking through New York in your pjs?

        • http://profiles.google.com/bratling2 Laura Davies

          Nope!  Especially since my favorite pair (the ice cream ones) is bright turquoise with almost neon popsicles printed on it and hot pink piping.  But well, since I’m *not* a designer it’s not something I really have to worry about!  Still not quite impressed by Anya’s sewing skills though.  I mean, I’m one of those “home sewers” and I sew better than she does….  Then again, I’ve been sewing since I was a kid…

        • Anonymous

          You know, I was thinking, which is worse, being forced to march through New York in my pjs or being caught 5 a.m. on camera sans makeup and braless.  But I have to say, it had to be kind of giddily surreal traipsing through NY at dawn in ratty pajamas and a sheet, with a film crew following you, and passerby wondering exactly which velvet rope you had managed to cross that they didn’t (is it a statement?  is it performance art?  is it modern?) that made that moment kinda priceless.  But being caught in a close-up with my 5 a.m. face and hair?  Yikes.

          • Anonymous

            Definitely going braless—believe me, I *need* a bra! Don’t wear makeup, so that’s not an issue. 

            • Anonymous

              Oh, trust me, I have the same need.  I should have added braless to the horrors of being caught at 5 a.m. in a closeup.  Assuming the camera was inclined to drift below the neck, which if I was braless it probably wouldn’t be!

    • Anonymous

      The best time of year? Okay, probably Christmas. But the second-best time of year? Gotta be a toss-up between Halloween and the return of TLo PR spade-calling and bitchery. That runway was a sea of Insane Crotch, these pants included. The pleats were gaping and unflattering, and the rise was waaaayyyyy too long. 

      • Anonymous

        I’d definitely put T Lo’s PR blogging way ahead of Halloween.  Heck, I can have mini versions of Snickers any ole’ day, but T Lo and PR–priceless!

    • Anonymous

      Tim actually gave Josh really good feedback–his idea was good the execution sucked. 

    • Phillip Wilde

      My money’s on Mormon McGlasscloset hooking up with his roommate Queenie von Eyebrowwax before the season is over.

      • Anonymous

        None of our business, of course, but I totally think/thought that the “two Josh’s” will get together.

    • Anonymous

      Well if the pants aren’t as great as the judges think they are, maybe she did learn to sew only 4 months ago. I zoomed in on the back of the pants and the waist band doesn’t match up where the button is on the back. There’s a tiny gap between the zipper and the button. How can you say she is pulling one over on us or that she is trying to shape her image  as a wonder child if the pants really aren’t that great. I thought, “well she was smart enough not to make tight pants that would easily reveal any crotch problems. THIS TIME. Inevitably bad construction with catch up with the designer. Michael from last season couldn’t sew. He did not win project runway. 

    • Anonymous

      Come on Team Bert…. great episode!  I am heading over to the lifetime site right now to vote for Bert as my fave!  Vote early and vote often!

    • Anonymous

      “but let that be a lesson to all future contestants: never wear something
      that you can’t turn into something fabulous.”

      Amen to that. Remember last season when they had to take something that they were wearing and pass it to the person next to them? If I were a contestant on PR (never in a million years!), I would make sure that all my stuff was fabulous and that I didn’t care about it very much (a difficult combination) in case I had to turn my blouse into a purse or something like that.

      I have to say that I kind of like Anya and I wasn’t expecting to. I liked the idea of her outfit, although I agree about the pants. Loved the back of that top.

      I’m not going to comment on whether or not Joshua is gay–that’s for him to say, not me–but I don’t really like him much. Blaming your model is not classy, and saying that you wish someone had told you that you were headed down the wrong path is a really bad idea. Although, I imagine that it’s really hard to be up there on that runway with all those judges staring at you. I’d probably start saying whatever came into my head and then I’d dissolve into a mass of quivering protoplasm.

      • Anonymous

        Not only fabulous, but voluminous.
         

    • jeneria

      Compared to the other pants that were sent down the runway (the snowboard catastrophe and the awful camel toe leggings), her pants were the best.  I like Joshua, he seems sweet.  Other than that, I don’t have a feel for anyone although I will root for the guy from Baton Rouge because I lived in Baton Rouge.

    • Jose Luis Olivares

      What are their names again? Oh well, I thought this girl’s pants made the model look like she had a stiffy. And the top just looks messy—so I was super surprised she was in the top 3! and Mr. Mormon had all sorts of dumb fashion going on, but at least the shorts were made well. Yeah, I totally did a side-eye when he was talking about the right girl….poor guy, though, I feel bad that so many people will harp on his sexuality, it makes me feel like I’m in middle school again! Though, if you’re raised mormon, I’m sure you’re sexual awakening can happen later in life…it would be interesting if he came out on the show.

    • Anonymous

      What are their names again? Oh well, I thought this girl’s pants made the model look like she had a stiffy. And the top just looks messy—so I was super surprised she was in the top 3! and Mr. Mormon had all sorts of dumb fashion going on, but at least the shorts were made well. Yeah, I totally did a side-eye when he was talking about the right girl….poor guy, though, I feel bad that so many people will harp on his sexuality, it makes me feel like I’m in middle school again! Though, if you’re raised mormon, I’m sure you’re sexual awakening can happen later in life…it would be interesting if he came out on the show

      • Anonymous

        One word: Keith.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1294512334 Terri Griffith

      But you guys didn’t talk about last night’s winner!!!!!!!!!!!! Being over 57 I’m over the moon. AND he’s a really nice guy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1294512334 Terri Griffith

      But you guys didn’t talk about last night’s winner!!!!!!!!!!!! Being over 57 I’m over the moon. AND he’s a really nice guy.

      • Anonymous

        Here (earlier post): http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2011/07/pr-nutbush-city-limits.html

      • Anonymous

        Here (earlier post): http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2011/07/pr-nutbush-city-limits.html

      • Anonymous

        Here (earlier post): http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2011/07/pr-nutbush-city-limits.html

    • Anonymous

      Anya=Teacher’s Pet.  It’s just that simple.  From the moment Heidi saw her (and what was she ON in those casting sessions?), she was in love, and that was the end of that.  She’s slightly more likable than I thought she would be (total bitch LOL), but I still don’t care for her.
      And WTF on those pants???  Hubby and I kept asking each other if they could not SEE the Crazy Crotch and the fact that they were crawling up as she walked.  They hung nicely from the thigh down…but so would ANY sheet, stapled together.

      OHHHHHHHH…see, the dogs were roughhousing and we missed the “waiting for the right girl” comment, and put the wrong 2 and 2 together when they showed him with those kids.  Now I don’t think our cries of “HI MARY!” when he first spoke were so wrong after all.

    • http://profiles.google.com/bratling2 Laura Davies

      Okay, comments on Josh’s sexuality aside… He could honestly be telling the truth.  See, I’m Mormon, too.  Since we believe in the concept of eternal families and eternal marriage, most singles are ‘searching’ for the right one because you could get stuck for good.  Yeah.  We don’t believe in divorce except in certain cases.  Which is probably why I’m willing to believe him because I know quite a few straight guys who say the same thing.  I figure that he has a nil chance of winning but I’m gonna cheer for him, anyway.  Since he admits straight out that he’s Mormon, chances are that he’s one of the “good” ones.  Which means that he was raised very conservatively and probably has fairly classic tastes.  So nope, probably not gonna win.  I just hope he hangs on for a while!

    • Anonymous

      I’m willing to give Anya the benefit of the doubt, mainly because I don’t really care and it actually isn’t that well constructed, but you’re right, the judges reaction was hyperbolic. She’s not incompetent = it’s the work of a master! Grading on a curve, definitely. As for whether she’s being misleading about her level of experience, I don’t know. She actually seems much more likable and less questionable than I was expecting, but at the same time, it wouldn’t necessarily surprise me. As I said, I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt.

      Joshua C: I don’t know. I can’t necessarily disagree with Rafael’s auf’ing, but I am getting the distinct impression that Joshua C is just not cut out for the show. Of all of the menswear designers they brought on this season, his was the least translatable, I think, and his work in the first challenge does not bode well. Rafael’s was bad, and I found his portfolio student-y, but he may have had more potential – then again, his portfolio was all about exposed zippers, so there’s that…

      Oh, and this was a great Nina episode, I have to say. It was full of wonderful Nina moments.

    • http://twitter.com/evilkorova evilkorova

      I grew up in Utah and “Waiting for the right girl” is a very common Mormon thing to say.

      • margaret meyers

        That “right gir”l is so going to be shaving something other than her legs.

    • Anonymous

      Not much new to say. Ms. T&T’s pants were a nice idea & she did, indeed sew better than expected but they weren’t made as well as the judges indicated.  Josh’s shorts were dreadful & he was lucky to stay.

      My impression of his sexuality is worth exactly what? given I’ve seen him on t.v. for maybe 10 minutes screen time total. But even if he’s gay, I’m very willing to believe that he’s looking for the right girl – I can understand wanting to stay in the milieu he’s been raised in. Perhaps it’s indicative of his personality that after [presumably after] going to design school in L.A., he gave banking the ol’ college try for 6 years before striking out as a full-time designer.

      May he find a loosely ‘culturally Mormon’ girl who’s happy to keep him company, raise a family, etc. on their way to the near-inevitable moment that one or both of them has to make a break. God bless ‘em both, it’s a rocky road to choose, but if he’s working in L.A. (even if his brother’s house in Vegas seems like home base) he’s not choosing it blindly.

    • Anonymous

      Nina’s necklace is amazing.

      • http://www.tomandorenzo.com Tom and Lorenzo

        Hi Mary, it’s a Proenza Schouler Fall 2011 necklace. We posted a picture here: http://www.mobypicture.com/user/tomandlorenzo/view/10271891

    • Toto Maya

      I didn’t hear Josh’s comment about being straight, and neither did my brother, who was watching with us, and we thought he was one of the most obviously gay designers on the show. I’m pretty surprised he’s straight. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’s lying, as I don’t like judging people’s sexuality or outing him. But my gaydar was pretty strong with this one.

      As for Anya… I really hated the top. I wish she had used some of the rest of her fabric to extend it down so that not so much belly was showing. I think it would have looked so much better. Also, I don’t believe that she’s new to sewing. I think she has more experience than she lets on. But I don’t blame her for lying, it’s to her benefit I guess.

    • mrspeel2

      The judges, perhaps because of hysterical blindness or drunkenness,
      somehow looked at these shitastic pants and praised her for her
      execution.
      You’re SO right boys and I almost switched the channel when they started praising them!

      I also think you’re correct in thinking something’s fishy about her and there are 2 reasons. Why did she, above all others, have a bazillion “fans” before the show ever got started? How was she supposedly able to con Aaron and friends into accepting her for the show without ever telling them that “oh, by the way I just learned how to sew 4 months ago”? It’s all pretty ludicrous.

      I’m hoping the producers aren’t trying to pull the wool over our eyes to get better ratings. If that turns out to be the end game, I’ll definitely quit watching the program, and that’s no bluff.

    • mrspeel2

      The judges, perhaps because of hysterical blindness or drunkenness,
      somehow looked at these shitastic pants and praised her for her
      execution.
      You’re SO right boys and I almost switched the channel when they started praising them!

      I also think you’re correct in thinking something’s fishy about her and there are 2 reasons. Why did she, above all others, have a bazillion “fans” before the show ever got started? How was she supposedly able to con Aaron and friends into accepting her for the show without ever telling them that “oh, by the way I just learned how to sew 4 months ago”? It’s all pretty ludicrous.

      I’m hoping the producers aren’t trying to pull the wool over our eyes to get better ratings. If that turns out to be the end game, I’ll definitely quit watching the program, and that’s no bluff.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1663121863 Donna DeVore Metler

      Is it possible that self-depreciation is part of Anya’s culture? I see that in some of my music students from Asian countries, where my US students will talk about how great they are, and my Asian kids will come in for an initial interview/audition and both they and their parents will tell me how horrible they are, how they don’t apply themselves, how they haven’t really played all that long….and then they’ll play and blow just about anyone their age out of the water. I’ve come to realize that for some cultures, protesting too much takes the same role as bragging.

    • Anonymous

      Boycott my ass, bitches got me again.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

        True dat.  I was so bummed by She Who Must Not Be Named winning Season 8 that I thought I was done with PR, but damned if I wasn’ts happily sitting on my couch watching last night. 

    • Anonymous

      Boycott my ass, bitches got me again.

    • Anonymous

      It bothers me slightly that Fallene didn’t mention the origin of her puking clown shirt since Threadless is almost 100% user submitted designs.

      • http://twitter.com/ionascloset ionascloset

        Yeah, because I’m sure it’s on the editor’s priority list to make sure some Threadless designer’s name gets mentioned.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

      They were pretty bad-kind of a tribute to the 80’s, I thought.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMIFZ6A7BHP66M546AO77BWVQ4 Bonnie

      Nina.was.not.pleased.  Lucky for Josh it was the first episode, or he might have melted onstage from the rage in Nina’s eyes.
      bitchybitchybitchy

    • Anonymous

      …wait…this chap with the waistcoat and ascot is straight???  Oh gracious. I’m clutching my pearls in a mix of disbelief and sadness.  I’m suspicious of Miss Trinidad, but mainly because she’s a Pageant Girl, not because I have any real beliefs about her sewing skills, or lack thereof.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PMAPJYMO5AC6GMONR6NQFURAXE bebo

      When he said that nobody told him that what he was doing was bad , I ask myself is he that stupid or innocent.

      • http://profiles.google.com/bratling2 Laura Davies

        innocent.  Probably the last time he was in a room full of designers was school.  And from my art school experience, there is no lack of people there to tell you how much you suck.

      • Anonymous

        I kind of had the feeling that the “nobody” he was talking about was Tim, but then he realized at the last moment he really didn’t want to get off on the wrong foot with Tim from the get-go, so he changed “Tim didn’t tell me” to “Nobody told me.”  But I may be giving him too much credit!

      • Anonymous

        I kind of had the feeling that the “nobody” he was talking about was Tim, but then he realized at the last moment he really didn’t want to get off on the wrong foot with Tim from the get-go, so he changed “Tim didn’t tell me” to “Nobody told me.”  But I may be giving him too much credit!

    • Damien Washington

      Any episode in which Nina does her dog-whistle head-tilt is a keeper. I can’t believe how much I’m actually looking forward to this season. I thought all hope was lost…

    • Anonymous

      Until Mr. Mormon Clean here informs the world that his comment about waiting for the right girl was a joke, we are forced to give him the side-eye.

      Thank god! I thought my gaydar needed a tune-up.
      He’s damn lucky Rafael turned in the hot mess he created. After that “the other contestants made me do it” comment, he was a goner for sure. There but for the grace of Nina………….. 

      • Anonymous

        To be fair though, he’s Mormon, he’s kinda forced to be so far in the closet he’s king of Narnia by now.

        • Scott Hester-Johnson

          Untrue. We have two mormos this season, and little Bryce, bless him, is in full on flame.

          • http://profiles.google.com/bratling2 Laura Davies

            Notice that Bryce said “My family is”  In other words, he’s not anymore. 

      • Anonymous

        Seriously, when it comes to Mormons my gaydar is effed up!  My partner and I even have a running joke:  “Gay?  Or Mormon?”

        • Logo Girl

          I have the same malfunction. When I saw his home tour I got a “missionary I’d meet at a Denny’s near the Dallas/Fort Worth Airport” vibe from him.

    • Anonymous

      I really liked Anya’s, not perfect, but certainly chic and if she had some more time, she probably could have cleaned up all the problems. Good work, if they were perfectly executed, she might have been able to garner a win. Her pants reminded me of Gretchen’s similar looking high-waist, wide legged brown pants, which had camel-toe, from her winning collection, only these were more promising. Josh’s was terrible, those shorts were abysmal, an the seams on the front of the ill-fitting tank for the whole world to see?? Seriously?? Anyone should know that’s the LAST place to ever put those. And the wannabe Red Riding cape didn’t help much. And he tried to put some heat on the other designers with his “I wish someone told me its not good” This is a competition, they have their own things to worry about, unless its a team challenge maybe, your work is your own responsibility!

    • Anonymous

      I couldn’t believe all the praise “miss beauty pageant who barely sews” got for sewing pants. THOSE pants! They were horrid and grading on a curve is one thing but this was ridiculous. Something’s smelling a little rotten here. 

      Mr. Mormon Clean isn’t showing any good design skills here. I mean, the guy’s obviously willing to sacrifice any/all good fashion sense just to quickly slap it together. Blaming the model for his lame alterations was, well…lame.

      • Anonymous

        I didn’t really think he did blame the model until I watched some of the extras on the Lifetime website.  He really did lay into her there…But maybe he’s right, if she did intentionally misrepresent her measurements…

    • http://www.facebook.com/Nestor.Chocolato NesTtor Chocolato

      more pictures  on the rest of the  designs 

    • narita_rayna

      i nearly did a spit take when i heard that line about finding the right girl XD

    • Anonymous

      As someone who has been sewing for many years, I can’t believe her claims.   And I did manage to notice that she changed the number of months from 3 to 4 somewhere along the way. Hmmm  And I’m SO glad TLo said they thought the pants were craptastic.  Cuz I was seriously not impressed.  The top has promise, but she would have scored better with a cleaner simpler cut that was better executed.

      And Mr. SofarintheclosetIcan’tfindthedoor: well that effort was so egregiously awful I’m surprised the model didn’t say, “Sorry babe, no way in hell I’m walking my ass down that runway in that.   Shorts: pouched in front, Top: I have no words for how nasty it is. Hoodie Shrug: interesting notion, terrible execution.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you, TLo, for talking about how crappy those pants were!! I thought I was losing my mind!! I kept yelling at my husband, “Those pants are horribly made and she looks like she has a penis!!!” I think they were doing some drugs again, and maybe Heidi was still drunk?? But terrible pants, I thought she might be going home until the judges praised her.

      • margaret meyers

        If you watch Tim Gunn’s critique with Anya you can see that the pants were originally supposed to be high waisted.  I figure that during the styling phase they realized they draped better from the hips and pulled them down — which would explain the crotch on those pants being about 5 inches too low.

    • http://phdoula.blogspot.com Rebecca

      I am so glad to find so many other people with me on the INSANITY of those pants because not everybody I watched with was on my side. The judges were ridic, all my co-viewers were ridc, and those pants were RIDIC.

      Re: Josh, he provoked some discussion during the viewing as well. One of the people I was watching with is Mormon, and when he mentioned being Mormon she was instantly skeptical. We didn’t discuss it at length but my impression was that she was skeptical because he pinged the gaydar so strongly. She said she thought if he was a Mormon, he must be a “jack” Mormon (explanation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Mormon#Change_in_terminology) and as a test, she was peeing to see if he was wearing the Mormon undergarments (and we did think we caught a glimpse of them under his scrubs).

      FWIW, my understanding of Mormons’ attitude towards homosexuality jibes with that of others here: you might be gay, but you can’t act on it and you’re “better off” denying it and finding an opposite-sex person to marry regardless of your true feelings. My Mormon friends have related that they see guys in the church that they think are clearly gay, but are in denial and/or deep in the closet to be able to remain conflict-free with their churches and families. So they can live kind of a double life in that sense, although you imagine not a very fulfilling one… When I say “that doesn’t seem very fair” the answer is “well, life isn’t fair sometimes, it’s not our place to complain about it”.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NEIITRH4MU5DMPRXS4EK73C25Q Natalie McCoy

      So, how is Project Runway going to work Anya’s sex-tape issue? Ignore it? One Google of her name (God forbid, image search) and you know…everything… about her.

      • Lisa

        I don’t see why they have to address it at all.  It has nothing to do with the show – it’s good gossip for us, the fans, and nothing more.  It’s not like Keith Michael being caught with design and pattern books on the set of a fashion competition show.  Besides, I’m sure plenty of contestants this season, in prior seasons, and in future seasons, have a skeleton or two in their closets.

        • Anonymous

          I agree. It’s irrelevant, so I don’t see why they would address it. No good can come from doing anything other than ignoring it. Obviously, if she wins, people are going to talk even more, but it’ll still have nothing to do with the show.

      • Anonymous

        wowww…holy hell, you’re right

      • margaret meyers

        I think she has put pagentry, partying, and girl-on-girl porn behind her.  This year she’s on an ambitious spiritual journey, inspired by her brother’s death for sure, and shooting for the kind of fame that only comes from being the hottest girl on a reality show. 

    • Tamara Hogan

      Yup, Mr. Mormon pings my ‘dar pretty damn hard.

      • Scott Hester-Johnson

        See my comment above. ALL mormo men ping gay (just like the English).

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JQSQJRAL4YYWB2OZNHNUHKZAEY Christopher

      I wonder if Mr Mormon is going to be able to resist his urges in a apartment full of openly gay men?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JQSQJRAL4YYWB2OZNHNUHKZAEY Christopher

      I wonder if Mr Mormon is going to be able to resist his urges in a apartment full of openly gay men?

      • Scott Hester-Johnson

        Dude, it will be just like those LDS missionary boys; a bunch of randy teens living together and engaging in  frequent “wrestling” fun.

    • Anonymous

      So Miss Trini has a sex tape?  Why am I not at all surprised?  I can’t articulate why but I do feel that there’s something really sketchy about her.  I’ll bet she’s gaming something in some way.  No way in hell did she sew those clothes in her portfolio.  On the other hand, these pants are so horribly done that maybe she did just learn to sew.  It’s a cute, chic look albeit one that’s really badly done.  I agree with TLo that her personal appearance carries a lot of weight with the judges.  They’ll keep her around for a long time no matter what.  That said, she doesn’t appear personally loathsome, except for her hairstyle.  That look is so dated and stupid.  Hate it! 

    • Anonymous

      I don’t buy the non sewing experience for miss T&T. She’s really a great television material : she’s sweet, she’s funky, she has great style and good taste, and, to top it all, appear to be able to lie with the skin of her gums. I totally want her to stay for a while !
      still, Was I the only one screaming at my screen : zipper ass ! ZIPPER ASS ! Good grief, what crazy people puts a zipper on a girl ass ???
      Is it the new fashion trend ? Now that I know that hoses where thrown out of fashion for the last two decades I can accept anything…

    • Anonymous

      Priceless indeed.  It’s not a fun look to give though.  ‘Cause then you have to deal with the Darwin Award hopeful, and that’s just annoying.

    • Joshua Flake

      I could not agree more, on all accounts. I thought those trousers were hideous, and I really was not enthralled by the top. She could have done more with that great fabric, but at least it was an intriguing design, which is more than can be said of some of the other designers. Not top three, no, and I will add, looking at the top, I just can’t believe she has only had four months of experience. I just can’t. It was not perfect by any account, but it was pretty well-finished considering the silk, the princess seams, and the piping. As for the mormon guy, lol, I desperately hope there will be some drama this season. I was raised a mormon myself, and I imagined I might find the right girl one day too. Turned out, the right girl was a guy.

    • Joshua Flake

      I could not agree more, on all accounts. I thought those trousers were hideous, and I really was not enthralled by the top. She could have done more with that great fabric, but at least it was an intriguing design, which is more than can be said of some of the other designers. Not top three, no, and I will add, looking at the top, I just can’t believe she has only had four months of experience. I just can’t. It was not perfect by any account, but it was pretty well-finished considering the silk, the princess seams, and the piping. As for the mormon guy, lol, I desperately hope there will be some drama this season. I was raised a mormon myself, and I imagined I might find the right girl one day too. Turned out, the right girl was a guy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/brendan.foehr Brendan Foehr

      Holy Shit! The first model looks exactly like Claudette Colbert!

    • Anonymous

      I cant believe they kept the mormon over Gunner Death-threat or whatever his name was.

    • Anonymous

      I cant believe they kept the mormon over Gunner Death-threat or whatever his name was.

    • Anonymous

      I dunno how Fester here is on Runway AND Design Star…but check out Design Star he’s there too.

    • http://profiles.google.com/phyllis.craine Phyllis Craine

      I’m still trying to figure out why the crotch length on Anya’s pants draft is way too long in front but ok in the back.

    • Scott Hester-Johnson

      OK, as ridiculous as Joshua’s “I’m looking for the right girl” comment may appear on the (gay)face of it, he may actually be hetero(ish).

      I am married to an ex-mormon boy and spend way too much time in Utah with the in-laws, and I have learned one very important thing about mormo men; they ALL read as gay.

      Maybe it’s the scrubbed politeness, the perfect giant teeth or the need to wear polo shirts at all times, but honest to god, you’d think that you were in Provincetown and not Salt Lake City.

      All that being said, that Joshua kid is a total closeted cakeboy.

    • Anonymous

      I’m wondering if the outcome would have been slightly different had their models been switched.  Joshua’s model is leaning a little more toward “normal” in body size, while Anya’s model is the typical “I don’t remember what real food smells like because I only eat sugar free Jell-O” size.

    • Amanda Hockham

      I’m so glad you brought up Ms. did-you-know-I-only-learned-to-sew-four-months-ago! For the life of me I couldn’t fathom why no one, especially Nina, called her on the awful fit of those pants in the front. The crotch was hanging way too low and was so baggy I could have packed a lunch in there for later!

    • Nonya

      I think y’all are being really judgemental on his comment. I like your snark, but stick to the fashion, alright?

      • http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/ Tom and Lorenzo

        No, we’ll stick to doing what we want.