T Lo is Watching…Game of Thrones & Treme

Posted on May 09, 2011


Darlings, believe it or not, we don’t blog about every single show we watch. Sometimes it’s because we just want to watch a show without taking notes and sometimes it’s because we don’t think a particular show lends itself to weekly episode-by-episode blogging. Fringe is like that. We mostly love the show but find that we have little to say when it’s over. But at least Fringe doesn’t suffer from the other reason we choose not to blog about certain shows: overblogging. That is to say, a show that EVERYONE writes about. Now, that didn’t stop us from picking up Mad Men and The Walking Dead, two shows that have been seriously overwritten in the blogosphere and critical community, but with both shows, we couldn’t NOT write about them and besides, we got to them fairly early, before they became so internet-popular. So we want to occasionally feature shows here that might not get the full recap-and-review weekly treatment but deserve to be talked about, if not by us, then by our loyal army of erudite, articulate, sophisticated minions. And maybe we’ll throw in a couple of our guilty pleasures down the line. You know, those shows that DON’T deserve to be talked about, like Jerseylicious.

Even though you wouldn’t know it from reading this blog, Treme is one of our favorite shows on television. It is also one of the most written-about shows on television. Because the plotting on this show is so minimal that characterizing it as “glacial” would be attributing to it a faster pace than it actually has, it’s an extremely difficult show to write about in the conventional “recap and review” manner. Subsequently, a LOT of the writing about this show comes down to “I got more of the references and inside jokes than you did.” Since we’d never be so foolish as to proclaim much more than a working knowledge of New Orleans culture, history, and politics, it’s a discussion we’ve not wanted to enter. We could do a strict recap and write “Antoine’s trying to get his band together and Sonny lost his keyboard and guitar in a police raid and Janette’s house got broken into and Toni found out that kid was shot during the post-storm looting,” but strict recapping like that does the show a disservice. It’s less about what happens than about how it’s depicted. It’s very much the “slice of life” style of story. Scene after scene dripping with mood and atmosphere, making it feel like you live in that place at that time with those people. If you stick with it, it’s virtually impossible not to care about the characters.

Janette’s one of our favorites and we’re thrilled that she’s finally back in New Orleans. We loved her scene with Albert, who rarely gets scenes with the rest of the cast. But really, for us, this episode was all about LaDonna, who is our very favorite of all the characters on the show. Khandi Alexander is a fine actress, but that final shot of her, left alone just long enough for the memories of what happened to come back, the horror and pain written on her swollen and battered face, was knife-in-the-heart painful.

As for Game of Thrones, we are enjoying the show but it’s not without its difficulties. Tom read the first book in the series, enjoyed it enough to want to pick up the second one, got about 300 pages into it, and finally gave up. It’s a well-written and engrossing story, but… actually, scratch that. It’s THIRTY well-written and engrossing stories all happening at once. Ultimately, Tom gave up on the books because he simply couldn’t keep the names and the stories straight and continuing had gotten too much like work and not enough like entertainment. Thankfully, with a visual medium like television, things are a little easier. Even so, we find that after 4 episodes, we have no idea what the names are for half the characters. There are just too many of them to keep track of. There’s that one girl, and there’s that other girl with the sword, and then there’s the girl with the dragon eggs, and the little boy who fell off the wall after he found that one guy fucking his sister in the tower, and then there’s all those guys in the Night’s Watch whose names we can’t figure out.

Don’t get us wrong, we enjoy this show, but there’s not a chance in hell we’d try to recap and review each week. We tip our hats to those writers who are managing it, but it seems to us a lot of the people writing about the show have read the majority of the books. If you’re not immersed in the world of Westeros it can be pretty difficult keeping things straight. Still, it’s a fantastic hour of television. The most expensive-looking hour each week. And the performances are all first rate. Sean Bean, who we love as an actor but also as an imaginary sexual partner, isn’t exactly setting the screen on fire, but to be fair, Eddard Stark is a ponderous, duty-bound, somewhat broken-in-places man. Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister owns the entire production and whenever a scene lags or we stay too long in one area, we find ourselves wishing he’d wander in and say something bitchy. We also like Catelyn Stark and the scene in the inn last night where she actually managed to outwit Tyrion by using the one weapon in her arsenal – her connections and social standing – was brilliant and electrifying. Also, Cersei is a mega-bitch and we’re enjoying the hell out of Lena Headey’s clenched teeth, low-key performance. She could be chewing the scenery, but her even tone and immovable face are far more effectively depicting her as formidable.

So, are the minions watching these shows? What are your thoughts on them?

[Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

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  • http://twitter.com/MrsB_P Nichole

    Totally love Game of Thrones.. I haven’t read the books but might do so after seeing the show. I agree it’s hard to keep up with everyone’s names but it’s been pretty easy keeping up with the various plots. The show keeps getting better and better each week!

  • Anonymous

    Is this where we get to talk about The Voice?

    Paola

  • Julnyes

    Watching Game of Thrones and enjoying it thoroughly. I only read the first book and have to commit to reading the others before the plot on the show catches up to me. I have a feeling they won’t get anywhere near the end of the book in this first season. It is very densely written.

  • Anonymous

    I’m watching Game of Thrones. I recently finished the first book and am more than ready to pick up the second. But I do admit it’s not the kind of book for those who aren’t ready to really take the time to become potentially engrossed in it because of the amount of stories and characters all at once. And I don’t blame you for not trying to review it every week because of that. I agree with you about the people in the Night’s Watch being confusing (they’re the only ones I really still have to figure out) but I keep up with basically everybody else. Everyone is brilliant though and I love that it more or less follows the book very closely. I’m glad there’s something so good on tv again.

  • http://phantomminuet.blogspot.com/ MinAgain

    Well, hell. Who doesn’t imagine Sean Bean as an imaginary sex partner?

    • bitchybitchybitchy

      Word!

    • http://www.hazelnutgirl.blogspot.com/ Hazelnuts

      Amen!

    • Guest

      I know I sure do.

  • Breeze

    I love the Borgias. Delicious decadent.

    • Anonymous

      I’m enjoying The Borgias a lot too- for the most part. I love all of the characters and the character conflicts, but when the story goes to check in on the political stuff, I zone out.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed. The political stuff is kinda boring but everything else is great

    • Anonymous

      I’m enjoying The Borgias a lot too- for the most part. I love all of the characters and the character conflicts, but when the story goes to check in on the political stuff, I zone out.

  • Anonymous

    Whaaa? Treme is back on?!!! ARGHHH! I have to put HBO back in my cable lineup. lol. I loved the 1st season.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1241487378 Lauren Lynch Fox

      Sunday at 9:00. I check it out On Demand on Monday….

      • Anonymous

        Thank you so much! Woop, woop.

  • Anonymous

    I read the series of books that Game of Thrones is based on for the first time a couple of months ago in anticipation of the TV show and I fell in love with them. Yes, the plot is complicated and jumps around from location to location, but I stuck with it and found the characters to be worth the effort of sorting out the complex plot.

    So far I think the show is doing a really great job in compressing and editing a complicated story into an hour long TV show that isn’t completely impossible to follow.

    My favorite characters that have shown up on the show so far are Catelyn, Tyrion, and Ned. My other favorite character from the books won’t show up until sometime during season 2, I’m guessing.

  • Anonymous

    I read the series of books that Game of Thrones is based on for the first time a couple of months ago in anticipation of the TV show and I fell in love with them. Yes, the plot is complicated and jumps around from location to location, but I stuck with it and found the characters to be worth the effort of sorting out the complex plot.

    So far I think the show is doing a really great job in compressing and editing a complicated story into an hour long TV show that isn’t completely impossible to follow.

    My favorite characters that have shown up on the show so far are Catelyn, Tyrion, and Ned. My other favorite character from the books won’t show up until sometime during season 2, I’m guessing.

  • Ivonaab

    The Borgias! LOVE it

    • Anonymous

      I’m throughly enjoying that show as well

  • Ivonaab

    The Borgias! LOVE it

  • Ivonaab

    The Borgias! LOVE it

  • scottyf

    I’m a big sucker for any tv show or movie which successfully makes the city or location a clear character in the piece. I think that’s one of the things that has made the Law and Order franchise so successful, and what makes most of Martin Scorsese’s films palpably atmospheric. That is one of the reasons I love Treme–that, and I’ve had a crush on Wendell Pierce and his chubby self since his “I love it when you call me Big Poppa” scene in Waiting To Exhale.

    • aussiegal77

      1000 points for Waiting to Exhale reference!

    • Phylora

      I, too, love Wendall Pierce, but I only think of him as Bunk.

    • MilaXX

      Big ups to the Waiting exhale reference!

  • scottyf

    I’m a big sucker for any tv show or movie which successfully makes the city or location a clear character in the piece. I think that’s one of the things that has made the Law and Order franchise so successful, and what makes most of Martin Scorsese’s films palpably atmospheric. That is one of the reasons I love Treme–that, and I’ve had a crush on Wendell Pierce and his chubby self since his “I love it when you call me Big Poppa” scene in Waiting To Exhale.

  • http://twitter.com/Daleksneedhugs Megan

    I’m enjoying Game of Thrones, but I hope they kill of the majority of the cast soon and leave us with the “Daenerys is awesome” show.

  • http://twitter.com/Daleksneedhugs Megan

    I’m enjoying Game of Thrones, but I hope they kill of the majority of the cast soon and leave us with the “Daenerys is awesome” show.

  • aussiegal77

    I’ve watched 2 eps of Game of Thrones and am enjoying it so far =D My sister has read the books and raves about it!

  • aussiegal77

    I’ve watched 2 eps of Game of Thrones and am enjoying it so far =D My sister has read the books and raves about it!

  • http://twitter.com/shinobi42 Shinobi

    I love the Game of Thrones show so far, I could not bring myself to plow through all those books when he hasn’t even finished the series, I will instead relax and enjoy watching them!

  • Kerri

    I really enjoy Game of Thrones. the only way I manage to keep (some of) the names straight is to use the little guide that HBO has on its website. Other than that I would have been long lost three episodes ago. I have yet to read the books, but I do have them on order. The plots are fantastic, though. And the the acting is superb.!

  • mandyjane123700

    I was really into Treme last year, but I have so many shows to watch right now I kinda forgot about it.. also as good as it is, it’s really depressing at times. I am loving Game of Thrones, I’ve been looking forward to it for a long time. Loved the books as well.

    My favorite shows this year are The Good Wife, Game of Thrones, Community, and The Killing. The Killing is starting to drag a little, but I can’t quit now.

    • http://twitter.com/1carmelita 1carmelita

      I really like The Good Wife, too, but now one I know is watching it.

      • Meredith Bradbury

        I love “The Good Wife,” it’s one of the best written and acted shows on TV. Dare I say, I’d watch it over “Mad Men” if I had to choose. I also love “Game of Thrones.” So much so that I ordered the books and read the first one last week. I carried the book around with me so I could read whenever I had a moment (or 10). But then during last night’s episode I thought “uh oh, maybe I shouldn’t have read it, because now I know what’s going to happen, and that’s a little bit of a let down.” I also like “The Killing,” but Mitch is starting to get on my last nerve. I know, I know, everyone else loves her. I want to pick up “Treme” again and “The Borgias,” and now that “Justified” is over for the season, maybe I can fit them in on Wednesday nights. There’s a lot of good stuff on, isn’t there?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MNMVM2GPVUEIOJXBOSLCXKAW4U judy brown

    I saw the first season of Treme as a marathon while doing computer work: so not so glacial to me, but totally mesmerizing. Was going to cancel HBO after Mildred Pierce (eh!) but they hooked me with the new season of Treme (that’s calculated, I know.)

    As for Game of Thrones, I don’t normally give a shit about medieval fantasy, but surely TLo has noticed that hunk of a barbarian nomad king!

  • Anonymous

    Game of Thrones! I re-watched each episode yesterday becuase I know I miss so much; for example, I was totally wrong about where the entire butcher’s son drama happened. I only got maybe 50 pages into the first book before I had to give up, but it was because the writing felt lumpy to me.

  • Prudentia

    Oh, I, too, love “Treme”. Did you enjoy “The Wire”? The pacing was often the same- ‘slow burn tv’. You need to invest time in these shows, and they really do pay off. Khandi Alexander was *For-Your-Consideration* amazing in last night’s episode. There are so many stellar performances in this show, such great writing as well. (And I know little or nothing of NOLA inside jokes or the references! So the show works no matter your level of understanding of those things…)
    (We have Game of Thrones being saved up on the DVR- we want to watch it marathon-stylee.)

    • Terri

      @prudentia – SO true. I started watching Treme due to love of The Wire. La Donna broke my heart last night.

      • Jillibean

        Wire = Best show ever. I am so glad I started watching Treme because of it.

        • http://profiles.google.com/officerbb Florence Busby

          Agree with all of you…..Wire is amazing, Treme is great as well- John Goodman last season was unforgettable.
          the music is outstanding!
          GOT trashy but fun, has a bit of “300″ vibe to it.
          Watching Borgias as well (WHY are these all on at the same time!!)- no one in the cast has the gravitas of Jeremy Irons, but it’s worth it for the costumes & settings alone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1368750597 Michele Leah

    I read all the Game of Thones books in the past year and I absolutely love them but there are definitely way too many characters at times. When I went back and re-read them I found whole narratives that I missed my first read through because a certain name didn’t become important until book 3 but was doing stuff in the background in the first two books, etc etc. But I love the show. It’s visually stunning and it’s telling the story really well and all the women are written so fabulously and have such great characters which is so frequently hard to find on tv when the ratio is so many men to so few women (although mad men certainly has it, and lost did as well, and some other shows). And all the actors are perfectly cast.

  • Dear_evette

    Big door stopper fantasy books are not for everyone. Luckily HBO is doing a stellar job of bringing AGOT to the screen. The casting is simply perfection. Each actor is so perfect in the role they’ve been cast in that I am sure that either George R R Martin had to have had final input in the casting or the casting director is a total fanboy/fangirl of the series. My only quibble is that they are making Cersei (the evil blonde queen) a little too sympathetic. In the books she is unrepentant about her ambition and she’s really quite evil.

    But I must say the books are insane! Insanely good, that is! The third book (all 1,000 pages of it) is totally gangsta!

  • Anon

    Now I’ll have to badger my BFF to record Treme…

    Couldn’t get into Game of Thrones, and I really wanted to like it. The previews made it look so good/bad/hilarious/engaging. But the scattershot approach to storytelling coupled with a ridiculously draggy pace was just too much to ask. I even tried smoking up, but no dice. It just sucks.

    • squadratomagico

      I’m with you: Game of Thrones is too slow — indeed, the quickest way to a good night’s sleep I’ve found. Full disclosure, though: Part of the problem for me might be that I’m actually a medieval historian by trade (I teach it at the college level) and I find this “fantasy” series waaay tamer than the real thing. Why make up a boring medieval epic when the real ones are so exciting? Fantasy ought to allow you to do more than real history, not less.

  • anon

    Loving The Borgias, btw.

  • Anonymous

    Adore game of thrones. Fastest moving hour on TV since Lost.

  • mimi

    I have been enjoying Game of Thrones, and wish that I had started with Treme when it first came out. Sometimes, I just can’t watch any more television…

  • muzan-e

    I’ve been watching Catelyn Stark all this time with fingers crossed and hopes bright in my heart, and last night she proved to me that she is in the same league as Lost’s magnificent Juliet. Brilliant, tough-as-hell female characters are still perilously rare in fantasy/horror television, and when they do make an appearance it tends to be as a caricature. Brilliant, tough-as-hell females who are out of their twenties are practically an endangered species. Last night I came out of my chair and cheered at the screen, and I never do that.

    Well. Maybe for Sean Bean. Just a little. Just occasionally.
    Because he’s Sean by-god Bean, and my passion is boundless.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730197465 Wendy DeCora

    Oh how it warms my cold, cold heart to see that TLo is also watching ‘Treme’! I love New Orleans so much and know a lot of musicians from there personally (as well as other non-musician people). I’ve had friends on several episodes! Even though I’ve only visited NOLA three times, I was at Mardi Gras in 2006 and the season finale of last season was so pitch perfect, that is so what it is like. It is amazing and wonderful and I love that more people are getting to see both the beauty and the struggles of this amazing city!!!

  • SSharer

    I thought about sending in a show suggestion a while ago but decided it wouldn’t really add much to your blog. Well, now that I know you watch some things you don’t blog about, I really recommend SyFy’s Being Human. It’s an adaptation of the BBC’s version and there’s been a kerfuffle over which is better, but if I not only watched but looked forward to a new episode about a vampire, a werewolf, and a ghost, it’s damn good. Give a try!

  • twc

    I’m watching Game of Thrones but had some difficulty keeping going with Treme. I think I’ll start over with the latter and watch it all the way through once it’s available on demand.

    When I was reading the various books in George RR Martin’s epic series, I pictured Peter Dinklage as Tyrion — even heard his voice. So he is pitch perfect for me. I pictured Cersei as prettier but the actress portraying her is doing a great job, as is the actress playing Cat Stark. I agree it’s an expensive-looking series, which I’m enjoying very much.

  • RoninJoey

    I started reading Game of Thrones in preparation for the television series and got pretty addicted. I felt the same way about the second book (that it was ponderously over stuffed), but I muddled through and by the time I got to the third book, I felt like I had a pretty good handle on what was happening. I’m halfway through the fourth book now and, sad to say, I hardly bat an eye at all the random superfluous side characters who do Very Important Things that affect the plot. Truly, I have become an expert on Westeros.

  • ShivaDiva

    Very cool! I’ve been watching both shows, and enjoying them for the most part. Treme is no The Wire but it’s good in its own way. HBO itself isn’t quite up to its salad days (Sopranos, Deadwood, The Wire, etc.) but it’s nice to see a couple of worthwhile shows return to its schedule. Stuff like True Blood can be enjoyable on occasion, but is too dumb and cheesy at times to be considered a great show (basically a soft-core porn version of Twilight, if you ask me.)

    Here’s hoping HBO is beginning to bounce back from the doldrums!

  • TropiCarla

    Hubby and I L.O.V.E. Game of Thrones. We work too much to catch it on it’s regular night but we love it OnDemand.
    I am thrilled to join the chorus of The Good Wife fans. Absolutely one of the best shows on TV.

  • CynthiaNOLA

    As a New Orleanian and huge TLo fan, I’m thrilled you’re watching Treme. We intellectualize our city and its culture so much, we HAVE to over-analyze Treme. It’s in our blood. If you want more explanation of the names and random news story references, check out “Treme Explained” every week: http://www.nola.com/treme-hbo/index.ssf/2011/05/treme_explained_on_your_way_do.html. Also, my friend, who teaches music at Tulane (and who is a musician himself), writes a weekly blog called “The Sound of Treme”. Check it out: http://soundoftreme.blogspot.com/

  • CynthiaNOLA

    As a New Orleanian and huge TLo fan, I’m thrilled you’re watching Treme. We intellectualize our city and its culture so much, we HAVE to over-analyze Treme. It’s in our blood. If you want more explanation of the names and random news story references, check out “Treme Explained” every week: http://www.nola.com/treme-hbo/index.ssf/2011/05/treme_explained_on_your_way_do.html. Also, my friend, who teaches music at Tulane (and who is a musician himself), writes a weekly blog called “The Sound of Treme”. Check it out: http://soundoftreme.blogspot.com/

  • girliecue

    I had no idea I would ever lust for men for whom bathing and thinking were optional activities until Sean Bean (in just about every role I’ve seen him in) and Ray Stevenson (“Rome”) swaggered onto my TV screen. Bring on the grooming-challenged brawn! Although without HBO’s handy dandy little guide that another poster also mention, my enjoyment of Game of Thrones would definitely be dampened by trying to figure out who everyone is and why I should care about them. Peter Dinklage looks pretty damn good as a blond, and does anyone else wonder if they based the Prince in Shrek on the actor who plays Jamie Lannister?

    Also, can any of the more tech-savvy kittens tell me what is this Disqus thing?

    • MilaXX

      Disqus is sort of a universal avatar/registration service. Many blogs and websites use disqus so if you register with them when you visit any site that uses disqus, you simply login using your disqus login. Gravatar is a similar service. The benefit for the sites that use that is it cuts down on anon post & spammers

      • girliecue

        Thanks for the info, MilaXX!

    • MilaXX

      Disqus is sort of a universal avatar/registration service. Many blogs and websites use disqus so if you register with them when you visit any site that uses disqus, you simply login using your disqus login. Gravatar is a similar service. The benefit for the sites that use that is it cuts down on anon post & spammers

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=705110178 Kyle ‘Deepdish’ Stevenson

    I would love a TLo recap of Fringe. What if you did a season recap or finale thoughts?

    • guest

      I second that! Fringe is one of my favorite shows and I find that I have tons to say about it, especially about the finales! TLo blogging fringe, or even just one post would make my day!

    • NL

      Third this! Fringe is absolutely my favorite show on television right now, and I’ve often wished that T Lo watched it so that I could read their amazing recaps. Now I learn that T Lo DOES watch Fringe, so where’s the amazing recap? Ha! Even some quick T Lo thoughts on the season finale would be satisfying.

  • Kristen

    Hate Game of Thrones. I don’t know– its too creepy for me, I guess. Too generic HBO– violence!! nudity!! creepy sex!! Just not my thing.

  • MilaXX

    I adore Khandi Alexander & Treme, but I am not up to date on it because I don’t have pay channels. still I am a HUGE The Wire fan so there was simply no way I was missing Treme. I just see it slower than most. haven’t checked out Game of thrones yet, due to the no cable issue, but I plan to try and check it out soonish.

  • http://twitter.com/acuteguysf some guy SF

    I’m watching Game of Thrones, and trying to read the first book. It’s a really good show, but it isn’t without its problems. It’s adapted almost directly from the book (including all the dialogue), making certain aspects of the show almost incomprehensible. LOTR had bits of exposition and a better sense of time and place. Also, the show is incredibly dour. It makes me miss Legend of the Seeker’s sense of humor. That’s why Peter DInklage is stealing the show. There’s literally nothing for Sean Bean to do except look sad and dirty. Hell, everyone looks dirty and sad. There’s lots of boobs and sex, but even the dirty people sex is kind of sad.

  • Judy S

    I got my husband to watch the first episode but when Mr. Adorable went out the window, we turned it off with no desire to pursue it further. If you want to see illicit lust and baby-defenestration with a touch of passion, try this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCEes64D3_w

  • Anonymous

    Love the Game of Thrones. The books are hard going but worth the effort. Except for the last one. There is still the promise that Dragons will actually turn up. We live in hope…

    • Dear_evette

      July 12th. Firm date, Done and Done. He posted on his website on 4/28 that it was finished. He’s never done that before.

  • Tired mommy

    We are watching Game of Thrones and love it! Think what is helping is that we didn’t start on time and caught up thru “on-demand” and tivo so we didn’t wait a week between each episode. I still couldn’t tell you anyone’s name, but it’s good entertainment ala Rome/Deadwood.

  • gigi

    I’m so relieved to hear that someone else enjoys Treme as much as I do. Everyone else I know hates it, because “it’s not The Wire.” Personally, I find it refreshing that, on a network that’s making its money these days with vampires and swords and male prostitutes and gangster, a show that’s simply about people and their very human dramas can exist. I hope HBO continues to support it, because it can’t be zombies and murder mysteries ALL the time, you know?

    Jury’s still out on Game of Thrones, though I agree that Peter Dinkledge is OWNING it – one of the few actors of his kind who has managed to overshadow his condition with his talent.

  • Anonymous

    Not watching Treme. I do watch Game of Thrones, but the jury is still out on it. I agree that the scene in the tavern was the best so far. I almost wrote it off when Sean Bean killed the dog. And I hate that little bastard son of Cersei and her brother.

    The king (Mark Addy?) was Gaz’s best friend, Dave, in “The Full Monty”. I love him. I wish they would feature him more.

  • aimee_parrott

    Totally agree re: Peter Dinklage! I’ve loved him ever since I saw The Station Agent (which, if you haven’t seen it, go NOW and rent it. You won’t be sorry!)

    I’m really enjoying GoT, but I haven’t watched Treme. Only so many hours in a day, and I have a regular day job plus screenwriting, so I have to pick and choose.

    • scottyf

      The Station Agent is one of my favorite movies of all time! What an incredible ensemble cast, and what a beautifully told story. I pretty much became obsessed with Dinklage’s quiet, layered style of acting. It also doesn’t hurt that he is a hottie.

      • MilaXX

        The Station Agent is one of those movies I stop and watch every time it comes on. My sister and I even exchange lines.

  • SJMann1

    I’ll agree, GoT is hard reading, but VERY enjoyable. I’m bad with the names, but I remember enough about their characters that as soon as they do something familiar, I’ll remember who they are. (it also helps that the friend who introduced me to the series has read through Book 4 will answer my questions and clarify my confusion as long as it doesn’t = spoilers). The show is actually a great mix of the main book and details from the next book, and I even like the new scenes they’ve added at times. Overall it’s been a GREAT thing to geek out to!

  • no josh

    PLEASE blog Jerseylicious, that show is hilarious!

  • El

    We’ve been catching the odd pairing of Game of Thrones and Treme all season. It’s a bit of an odd pairing, particularly in terms of pacing–though I do believe the last two episodes of Treme have had a steadier pace. Hubby is more of a Game of Thrones guy, but Treme is quite special to me as a New Orleans native. I’ve wondered what other people think of it who don’t know the city (or don’t have someone in their ear throughout explaining it all). They really did nail the city and the whole atmosphere of New Orleans.

    I’ve found LaDonna to be one of the most compelling characters from the start, and was actually a bit disappointed that it seemed she didn’t have as much of a storyline this season. This episode sure changed that. It was absolutely heartbreaking to watch. Treme has a slow simmer, but the payoffs are a doozy.

  • laylagalise

    I love “Treme” (but not as much as I love “the Wire”); it’s amazing and gripping storytelling. I understand how it would be difficult to write a recap of the show every week, but love that you featured it on your blog. Personally, I don’t think many people blog about the show and it’s definitely been misunderstood by many viewers (who criticize it because they feel like “nothing ever happens”).

  • Julie Woolfolk

    I love, love, love Treme…love how the music is just woven though.
    Annie’s fiddle makes me cry, the ep (1st this season?) where she played with the Subdudes on Craved in Stone was just a little bit of heaven.

    And yeah, GOT has got us all hooked at my house.

  • Kate

    God I love Game of Thrones! I read all the books ages ago though and need to reread them as the next in the series is coming out soon-ish. It’s always been a bit hard to keep up with though as he tends to release the books several years apart. I’ve been waiting 5 years for this next one haha.

  • onyxkatze

    “Sean Bean, who we love as an actor but also as an imaginary sexual
    partner…”

    THIS.

    Also, J’ADORE Game of Thrones, as a book series and now a show. Thank you for this well-deserved nod!

  • Kimeiester

    Love, LOVE Game of Thrones, but mostly for the reasons of complexity which seem to be turning you guys off. An hour of lazy TV brain candy it ain’t, but I have Glee and SyFy B movies for that.

  • Jillibean

    They are my two favorite shows on television at this moment. Treme is heart wrenching and both ugly and beautiful at the same time… and Game of Thrones feels like the Tudors had sex with LOTR and produced offspring. Glad to know I am good company with these shows!

  • http://profiles.google.com/angelarosesarno angela rose sarno

    oh T.lo- I am so very pleased you are watching Treme. It’s amazing, and worth the $$ we pay for HBO all by itself. I can understand not blogging about it- some things just need to be savored.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=513945580 Megan Patterson

    I so agree about Lena Headey in Thrones!! I thought I was the only other person!

    I have read the books a couple of times, so I have no problem keeping the names straight, but the show also hasn’t even MENTIONED a lot of people’s names. For example, CERSEI AND ROBERT’S OTHER TWO CHILDREN. Even though they’ve had LINES. I still love it, but it is kind of frustrating with things like that.

  • bitchybitchybitchy

    Glad to know that someone else loves Sean Bean! I’m just relieved that he hasn’t been killed off yet. I don’t feel overly attached to Game of Thrones what with so many characters and storylines

    As for Treme, there are some terrific actors on that show, Khandi Alexander and Melissa Leo among them.

  • Lynn Landry

    I’m enjoying Game of Thrones. For the most part, fantasy books drive me insane and I’d rather just skip to the movie or TV show to save me all the crazy dialogue and Ren-Faire feel. But, like any genre, when it’s good, it’s very good. GofT is fun to watch, especially Tyrion and my Tolkein-obsessed hubby and I can like a show together. I’m starting to feel like I’ll be disappointed if there isn’t at least one gutting scene each week. No spurting, garbled blood tonight? What the hells?

    As for Treme, I’m from South Louisiana and so many shows and people get that place all wrong. For the most part, Treme is hitting all the right notes (pun intended). Steve Zahn’s character is ANNOYING, tho. He is not convincing as an old Uptown landed gentry type who is slumming it. Granted, the old landed gentry types do slum it, but not like him. He seems more like some San Francisco kid who moved to NOLA and think he knows all about what’s up down there. But, in spite of that, even he is winning me over.

    If you can’t recap, even this little missive about these two shows made me happy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1020680613 Aunti Laura

    Well, your suggestion about The Walking Dead was much better than I would have expected (a zombie show? Have you lost your mind?) so even though I cant stand George R. R. Martin as a writer, I will give the show an On Demand look; True Blood starts back up in June, though, boys and that is what I SERIOUSLY have been waiting for. they are doing my favorite book of the series, so I cant wait.

  • http://twitter.com/phreddd F. Eloy Vaughn

    Thank you giving Treme some love… and YES, it’s *been* Khandi Alexander’s world when she’s on camera. Last night was devastating!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3211147 Stephanie Rosalie Polizzi

    unrelated… love GOT and wish you guys would blog it, but you may want to check out the formatting on your page. I’m viewing it in ffox and it looks like your titles get too long and either bleed over the dotted line, or worse (as in the case of this article’s title) bleed into the summary lettering.

  • anonymaus

    I love both shows too! To understand the Treme inside references, read this New Orleans reporter’s weekly recaps – @DaveWalkerTP:twitter

  • http://profiles.google.com/sleepneeded Greg Polansky

    I have read A Song of Ice and Fire and I don’t know yet about the adaptation of it for HBO. There is just so much material in the books that what ends up on the screen is such a small part of the whole. It leaves me feeling empty. I love HBO shows usually (Have you throught about getting into True Blood and blogging it?). I am still watching it . . . for now. But the characterization of some of the women on the show is off and that bothers me.

    • squadratomagico

      I hope this means that the women are more multi-dimensional in the books. I don’t care much for GoT, and one reason for that is the incredibly misogyny of the way the women characters are portrayed. They’re all just awful, flat stereotypes; one would think that the fantasy genre could come up with something a little more for the womenfolk to do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1241487378 Lauren Lynch Fox

    Got in to Treme last season. Could not sleep the night the John Goodman character killed himself

    • Anonymous

      Please be careful with spoilers, some of us haven’t seen all the shows yet!

  • Lela!

    I love Game of Thrones! 8D I read all four books within weeks and when I heard about the show my happiness licked several lady bugs. I love the show, and, and, I love you guys like it, and, and, now I’m really proud that I keep track of their names! Thanks dudes :D

  • http://twitter.com/a_liking Ali King

    of COURSE I’m watching Game of Thrones! Read all the books, awaiting the next one. It’s actually not my favorite fantasy series, but it’s quite good. As a fantasy book fan, the show is (hopefully) really gonna help make the genre more acceptable to the public.

    But man, if you can’t follow A Song of Ice and Fire, then never pick up Wheel of Time :P

  • Hoosinole

    Tom, much like you, I read the first book and petered out about midway through the second. But friends who’d read all the books convinced me to keep going. “You’re pretty close to the turning point in the series,” they said. “You’ll hit a point where you say, ‘holy crap!’ Then you’ll turn the page and say, ‘Holy Crap!!’ Then you’ll turn the next page and say, ‘HOLY CRAP!!!’ And it just gets better from there.” And you know, they were right. BTW, the series has a good wiki devoted to it to help navigate the metric ton of characters. I plan to do a lot of reviewing in preparation for the next, way-overdue book when it finally comes out.

  • agsse

    Wow – it’s great to hear other folks liking Treme. I’m a NOLA girl, so I’m obliged to watch and love it, but I do think it is really well done. I’ve often wondered how it translated for folks not from New Orleans…

    And, I’m a Game of Thrones girl, too, though I agree about the complexity (seemingly unnecessary) of the many story lines. If I hadn’t read all the books, I’m sure I’d be lost. Beautiful, though.

  • Anonymous

    I read this first episode of A Song of Fire and Ice, but was put off by the anal rapes on every other page. I was hoping that HBO would temper this constant denigration of women – they did not. This is not a medieval story, it is a fictitious place in a fictitious time and if I wanted to watch this kind of treatment of women, I’d watch congressional sessions.

    • squadratomagico

      Sing it, sister! That’s basically why I can’t get into it at all. I think I could overcome the glacial pacing and the multiple characters, but the portrayal of women is just *awful!* And as you note, there’s no excuse for it in a fantasy genre.

  • http://strawberrybasil.com Lindsey

    I strongly suspected that the TV series would be difficult to follow for people who haven’t read the books. I think they’ve definitely produced it with fans in mind, so there’s not a lot of hand-holding for people who are coming to it fresh. You’re so right that they’ve made a beautiful, expensive production of it.

    I’m surprised you got so far into the second book and never finished! But I suppose the storytelling, with the switching POV’s can get to be a little like work sometimes. ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=50311873 Ashley Arceneaux

    I live in New Orleans and I’m so excited that yall are watching Treme and gave us a little shoutout on the blog! yay! :)

  • Anonymous

    I love the Song of Ice and Fire book series so for me Game of Thrones is kind of a no brainer when it comes to watch or not to watch kind of judgements. If I have read something and they make it into a second format I have to watch it. It is a compulsion and I realize probably not a healthy one fore my free time but there you go.

    I tried to watch Treme…. I just can’t. I know everyone loves it but I just get bored with it so very easily.

  • QitKat

    What I’d really like to know is if TLo watches Doctor Who.

  • http://naturallyeducational.com/ CandaceApril

    Game of Thrones…right after the True Blood re-run!

    I’m almost done with book three and it only gets more…more populated, more complex, more horrifically violent. I don’t know how they’ll manage to depict it all, how they’ll pay the cast…I wonder how the author kept everyone straight!

    The author is a decent writer, which is more than I can say for most modern fiction…and the world is richly drawn.

    Some of the acting is also amazing, yes…especially the man playing Tyrion.

    It really is a perfect fit for you two given the symbolic use of fashion…but I can see why a recap would be daunting.

  • Anonymous

    I actually live in New Orleans, and I LOVELOVELOVE Treme! It’s so cool seeing so many familiar places pop up on the show. Wendell Pierce is actually going to be the commencement speaker for my college this year. While not as exciting as Drew Brees last year, still pretty awesome, I’d say. I’m so excited that you guys love Treme, too! :D

  • joyjoy

    Here’s what <a href="http://betterbooktitles.com/post/4003482572/gameofthrones&quot;.this site thinks of “A Game of Thrones.”

  • KC

    You guys should totally watch and blog The Borgias. The costumes and set and story and part of history sounds AMAZING!!! :D

  • libby

    Peter Dinklage has got to be the worst name of all time.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ianfishman666 ian fishman

    I have been a fan of the books for many years (well at least the first three!)

    The series is amazingly truthful to the books, where it strays it seems totally justified.I can’t wait for the next book in July

    (we’ve only been waiting for six years!) If you have one of the books, there is an appendix with all the characters, that can help

    keep you straight (as it were!). Can’t believe you don’t remember the name of Arya, she’s one of the best characters in the

    books, also Tyrion, though they have made him a lot better looking than in the books.

    By the way, the third book, ‘A Clash of Swords’ is by far the best. If you can manage to read it , the revelations and surprises are worth it

    The first time i read it, i gasped at the penultimate and final chapters.

  • Grace Poole

    I love Treme and am so glad that it’s back on. NO has always been one of my favorite cities and while I’ve never lived there I’ve visited a lot and have some ties to the area. The city is definitely a character in the show and they do a great job of showing the good – and bad – parts of the gumbo that make up the tantalizing, frustrating New Orleans character. The acting is superb, across the board. As is the music. What a treat it would be if you occasionaly feature the show on the blog.

    I’ve never been a fan of most fantasy fiction because it’s so very poorly written and so humorless. I did watch the first episode of GOT and it was just okay. The violence is over the top and I just don’t know if I care enough about these people to subject myself to that kind of brutality. Also, there’s that lack of humor thing. And while no doubt appropriate, everything is gray and dark and ugly. I keep thinking I’ll watch it on demand but I suspect I won’t. Don’t think it’s for me.

    I am watching The Borgias. It’s also over-the-top violent but the story keeps me entertained. And it’s always fun to watch Jeremy Irons chew the scenery. I especially love that so many scenes look like Renaissance paintings come to life. The art direction and costumes are superb.

    On an unrelated note, posting is a real pain in the ass. It took me forever to do this. Still other problems with the site too, such as it loads very slowly. TLo’s wit still shines through but I miss the old site!

  • http://twitter.com/velleitas Isy

    EXACTLY how I feel about GoT. Even though I love the show and I’m usually really good with names! The only ones I can remember ad Jamie, Ned, and Jon Snow. Sad.

  • Lynn Landry

    Hey TLo, you guys were such cheerleaders for Bryan Batt while he was on MadMen, I think he needs to invite y’all down to NOLA for a little Crescent City education!

  • Wannabe

    Treme! My favorite show on TV right now, but your assessment is spot on. So far, it’s short on narrative and long on setting, and I’m willing to bet (hope?) that there’s a payoff. I thought last night (or rather, the last installment) was promising because of the storyline crossover — Janette and the Big Chief! Love that. And I agree LaDonna is the center of the show — Khandi Alexander can’t talk without sounding like an alto sax. That voice, her face, her passion — she more than anyone else is the personification of the city. Love.It.

  • deslonrox

    GoT. LOVE Tyrion Lannister, can’t get enough of him. Ned Stark is well-played, but what a ho-hum of a character. Seems like he’d have to be driven to murderous rage to be interesting. The twins are weird, to say the least, but well-played, particularly the Queen. The King seems like a blusterous man with too many appetites who’ll probably get killed fairly on. Not too keen on Catelyn Stark, mainly because she seems to have treated her stepson Jon Snow pretty badly. Not the kid’s fault if her husband strayed. The redhead is a bore so far, the King’s heir seriously needs to die before he inherits. My favorite characters are Tyrion, Bran (but what are they going to do with a crippled boy in such a series?), Daeneris and Khal Drogo are good too, her brother needs to die pronto, but he’s good for fun value. I haven’t read the books, but I ordered them as ebooks and will get around to them one day.Did the Imp really sent a killer to Bran? Seems to me he’s probably plotting against his own family, and Jaime and Cirsei are the more likely suspects. And I confess, I did look up the family trees in the first book to understand a bit more and try to follow the intricate plots. I also like that guy who’s sweet on Catelyn, the one who lives in — or owns? — a brothel. LOL!

  • deslonrox

    GoT. LOVE Tyrion Lannister, can’t get enough of him. Ned Stark is well-played, but what a ho-hum of a character. Seems like he’d have to be driven to murderous rage to be interesting. The twins are weird, to say the least, but well-played, particularly the Queen. The King seems like a blusterous man with too many appetites who’ll probably get killed fairly on. Not too keen on Catelyn Stark, mainly because she seems to have treated her stepson Jon Snow pretty badly. Not the kid’s fault if her husband strayed. The redhead is a bore so far, the King’s heir seriously needs to die before he inherits. My favorite characters are Tyrion, Bran (but what are they going to do with a crippled boy in such a series?), Daeneris and Khal Drogo are good too, her brother needs to die pronto, but he’s good for fun value. I haven’t read the books, but I ordered them as ebooks and will get around to them one day.Did the Imp really sent a killer to Bran? Seems to me he’s probably plotting against his own family, and Jaime and Cirsei are the more likely suspects. And I confess, I did look up the family trees in the first book to understand a bit more and try to follow the intricate plots. I also like that guy who’s sweet on Catelyn, the one who lives in — or owns? — a brothel. LOL!

  • deslonrox

    GoT. LOVE Tyrion Lannister, can’t get enough of him. Ned Stark is well-played, but what a ho-hum of a character. Seems like he’d have to be driven to murderous rage to be interesting. The twins are weird, to say the least, but well-played, particularly the Queen. The King seems like a blusterous man with too many appetites who’ll probably get killed fairly on. Not too keen on Catelyn Stark, mainly because she seems to have treated her stepson Jon Snow pretty badly. Not the kid’s fault if her husband strayed. The redhead is a bore so far, the King’s heir seriously needs to die before he inherits. My favorite characters are Tyrion, Bran (but what are they going to do with a crippled boy in such a series?), Daeneris and Khal Drogo are good too, her brother needs to die pronto, but he’s good for fun value. I haven’t read the books, but I ordered them as ebooks and will get around to them one day.Did the Imp really sent a killer to Bran? Seems to me he’s probably plotting against his own family, and Jaime and Cirsei are the more likely suspects. And I confess, I did look up the family trees in the first book to understand a bit more and try to follow the intricate plots. I also like that guy who’s sweet on Catelyn, the one who lives in — or owns? — a brothel. LOL!

  • http://psychopixie.wordpress.com Julia Mathias

    I totally love both shows even though I’m currently a little behind on Treme. But I’m like really obsessed with GoT right now. i had never heard of it before HBO decided to do the show, but now that I’ve seen it, I can’t get enough of it. I started reading the book, and I’m trying to only read what I’ve already seen, but it is difficult, because I just want to know what happens next. I know it can be difficult, but I really wish you would review it! I would love to read your commentary on that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Mathias/632063928 Julia Mathias

    I totally love both shows even though I’m currently a little behind on Treme. But I’m like really obsessed with GoT right now. i had never heard of it before HBO decided to do the show, but now that I’ve seen it, I can’t get enough of it. I started reading the book, and I’m trying to only read what I’ve already seen, but it is difficult, because I just want to know what happens next. I know it can be difficult, but I really wish you would review it! I would love to read your commentary on that.

  • Freyalyn Close-Hainsworth

    I gave up on the book for exactly the same reason – excellent stuff going on, but far too much. And none of the characters are particularly sympathetic, either. I eventually went on to the Wikepedia entry to sort it all out (because other people had done all the work for me) and decided that life really was too short to read the rest. And I don’t have access to Sky at home, which is a pity – because Sean Bean with a sword in his hand is really not to be missed.

  • Freyalyn Close-Hainsworth

    I gave up on the book for exactly the same reason – excellent stuff going on, but far too much. And none of the characters are particularly sympathetic, either. I eventually went on to the Wikepedia entry to sort it all out (because other people had done all the work for me) and decided that life really was too short to read the rest. And I don’t have access to Sky at home, which is a pity – because Sean Bean with a sword in his hand is really not to be missed.

  • http://profiles.google.com/officerbb Florence Busby

    Agree with all of you…..Wire is amazing, Treme is great as well- John Goodman last season was unforgettable.
    the music is outstanding!
    GOT trashy but fun, has a bit of “300″ vibe to it.
    Watching Borgias as well (WHY are these all on at the same time!!)- no one in the cast has the gravitas of Jeremy Irons, but it’s worth it for the costumes & settings alone.

  • Lynn

    I loved the Wire, so I tried to watch Treme as the lead guy is from there, but I couldn’t get into it, maybe I should give it another whirl. I love the pure fantasy and epic scenery, costumes and plots of Game of Thrones, it’s like watching a mini Lord of the Rings each week, and I don’t even usually watch this genre. I do feel like I have to take alot of mental notess on who’s who though, I’m hoping that will get easier as time goes by. I love a show that has such great villians like the super blonde evil bro and the Queen and her lovely sibling. Can’t wait to see what Winter brings and what happens when they venture past the wall.

    There are alot of hotties on this show, how bout a TLo guys from Game of Thrones on the street? That would be nice….. horse warrior guy, Stark papa and bastard son please.

  • Lynn

    I loved the Wire, so I tried to watch Treme as the lead guy is from there, but I couldn’t get into it, maybe I should give it another whirl. I love the pure fantasy and epic scenery, costumes and plots of Game of Thrones, it’s like watching a mini Lord of the Rings each week, and I don’t even usually watch this genre. I do feel like I have to take alot of mental notess on who’s who though, I’m hoping that will get easier as time goes by. I love a show that has such great villians like the super blonde evil bro and the Queen and her lovely sibling. Can’t wait to see what Winter brings and what happens when they venture past the wall.

    There are alot of hotties on this show, how bout a TLo guys from Game of Thrones on the street? That would be nice….. horse warrior guy, Stark papa and bastard son please.

  • Guest

    I’m thinking about starting up the Game of Thrones series, but I worry that it’ll go the way the Wheel of Time series went. The immense range of plots and characters are extremely similar between the two (in my point of view) and the series wasn’t completed before Robert Jordan died. I just hope that the Game of Thrones series gets wrapped up before that happens to it.

  • Guest

    I’m thinking about starting up the Game of Thrones series, but I worry that it’ll go the way the Wheel of Time series went. The immense range of plots and characters are extremely similar between the two (in my point of view) and the series wasn’t completed before Robert Jordan died. I just hope that the Game of Thrones series gets wrapped up before that happens to it.

  • Guest

    I know I sure do.

  • guest

    I keep meaning to start Game of Thrones. But, I haven’t read the books, and I think I’d have the same reaction as T Lo. As in, who are these people? But, I’m sure I’ll give it a shot eventually.

    PS. I totally loved Fringe season 3.

  • guest

    I keep meaning to start Game of Thrones. But, I haven’t read the books, and I think I’d have the same reaction as T Lo. As in, who are these people? But, I’m sure I’ll give it a shot eventually.

    PS. I totally loved Fringe season 3.

  • Mandalala

    love both these shows, so psyched to see your reviews!

  • Mandalala

    love both these shows, so psyched to see your reviews!

  • Mandalala

    whoops, jumped ahead with excitement. great shows, though!

  • Mandalala

    whoops, jumped ahead with excitement. great shows, though!

  • Tropbelle

    Got to admit – GOT is right on the fur trend.

  • Tropbelle

    Got to admit – GOT is right on the fur trend.

  • cris

     this is useful: http://hauteslides.com/2011/05/game-of-thrones-infographic-illustrated-guide-to-houses-and-character-relationships/

  • cris

     this is useful: http://hauteslides.com/2011/05/game-of-thrones-infographic-illustrated-guide-to-houses-and-character-relationships/

  • Anonymous

    GOT has a lot of dialogue but much of it is dull as dirt and full of dumb cliches.  It makes me think that there is too much pandering to the nerdy fan base who mistakes a lot of words about dragons and swords for deep literature.  This is why Peter Dinklage steals the show — he has the best lines, and when he delivers them he gets to the point about something worth mentioning.  Most of the other characters prattle on about boring shit no-one really cares about.  Peter Jackson made Lord of the Rings watchable by gutting the rambling prose of Tolkien.  GOT should take note.