All On The Line S1E6: Jedda-Kahn

Posted on May 04, 2011

“I will not water down my designs.”

 

Meet Jedda-Kahn. Seems like a nice enough guy but he doesn’t appear to be cut out for television and we’re not convinced after this episode he’s cut out for the world of fashion.

 

This was the first time we watched this show and found ourselves wondering just why Joe was spending time with this designer. Usually there’s something in their work; some spark or germ of an idea that lets us see that they’ve got talent and potential. We hate to be harsh about a person who has a dream, but…



We’re REALLY not seeing it. It’s one thing to make something like this. Sometimes you get so close to the work you can’t step back and see it for what it is. But to vehemently defend these looks as something that “edgy” girls want to buy and wear? That’s borderline delusional.

 

Joe seemed to think Jedda-Kahn’s problem came down to editing, but that’s a critique for people who have a base aesthetic that can be tweaked. He didn’t seem to have an aesthetic. All his looks seemed wildly different. The only through-line was that each look had way too many elements. You could edit each piece down but you’re going to be left with a bunch of looks that tell you nothing about the designer and don’t seem to belong in the same closet. That’s not an editing issue, that’s a basic aesthetic issue. In other words, it seems to us he didn’t need to edit down; he needed to rebuild from the ground up.

 

Maybe Joe was just choosing his battles, because getting him to even consider editing his work was a major task in itself. Getting him to rethink his whole design philosophy was simply never going to happen.

 

We did feel a little bad for the guy. That critique with Joe’s fashionista friends (sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon) was HARSH. It looked to us like he’s not someone who understands the critique process. If you don’t know how to take constructive criticism, it can be extremely hard to take; hurtful, even.

We think that’s why he suddenly got all weird with Georgina Chapman. It’s like his pride couldn’t take another hit so he decided to go merrily sailing down Denial river.

 

We’re not sure how to explain his lack of preparation for the buyer’s meeting. The one thing Joe praised unreservedly was this guy’s technical skills, so we find it impossible to believe that this wasn’t a passive-aggressive maneuver. If the collection fails, he can always tell himself it was because Joe tried to force him to do something he didn’t want to.

 

We felt really bad for Joe here. We’re not naive about the realities of reality television. We doubt very much that any buyer who participates in this show will think worse of Joe just because that week’s subject didn’t have the goods. Joe’s not really putting his reputation on the line. Still, if we were in his shoes, we’d be a little embarrassed at what he was about to put the ladies from Scoop through.

 



The Scoop ladies were polite about it and tried to look for compliments, but the second this walked out it was all over. It’s a cute design. Nothing we haven’t seen before, but it would fit on the Scoop rack. The problem is, it’s so obviously a mess. This ain’t Project Runway. You can’t hope you’ll get by with some pins and shitty seams but no buyer is going to consider you after looking at this.

 



This one’s a little better, but we really don’t like that fabric.

 



This had a little something to it, but it was overshadowed by the poor fabric choice and the super tight fit. We’ll say it: stubborness and lack of taste are pretty much the end of the road if you want to be a fashion designer.

 



Come on now. Just try and tell us he wasn’t deliberately sabotaging himself. Look at that shitty hem. Why on earth couldn’t he finish this in 3 weeks? WITH a team?

 



This at least looks like some effort was put into it. It has some style to it. But it’s still sloppy and unfinished.

 

This was the piece where Joe allowed Jedda-Kahn to do whatever he wanted. It was an obvious recipe for disaster and Jedda-Kahn did not disappoint:

Alrighty then! That settles it: TASTE ISSUES.  But also, somewhat revealing of his mindset. Because this dress?

 

Was already sitting in his showroom and had been since before Joe got involved, apparently. In other words, he threw one of his existing pieces in. Now, it could have been that he was so pressed for time and behind on the other pieces that he used it as a fallback, but we’re going to play armchair psychologists. We think he put the least amount of effort into the pieces Joe approved so he could, in his imagination, wow the ladies from Scoop with something he’d already done, thereby proving Joe wrong and proving that he’s a great designer.

 

Obviously, the Scoop ladies were having none of it and backed out of the room slowly before running to the elevator and frantically pushing the call button over and over again. It was uncomfortable to watch. And we really do think there was a part of him that thought he was going to impress them. He wasn’t a jerk about it, but it seemed pretty obvious to us that his pride had taken a serious hit and he just didn’t want to hear the truth.

 

[Screencaps: tomandlorenzo.com]

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  • Aznelf

    what I dont get is – how come pretty much all of his final products look almost nothing like their sketches?

    • http://profiles.google.com/stelledelmare9 Samantha Scott

      I wondered the same. The sketches look much better

    • SMM

      I do not get it either; if this guy has such great technical skills…?

  • Anonymous

    “Tlo said: That critique with Joe’s fashionista friends (sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon) was HARSH. It looked to us like he’s not someone who understands the critique process. If you don’t know how to take constructive criticism, it can be extremely hard to take; hurtful, even.”

    Did he study anywhere? I don’t think there’s an arts school anywhere that doesn’t include crits as part of the regular process. If he’s self-taught, it might be hard to take, but if he studied anywhere he should be used to it already.

    I wasn’t impressed with his work at all. That first (yellow & white) dress looked like something you’d wear if the Frito Bandito was taking you to the prom. Most of the rest looked like they were made from repurposed handbag lining fabrics. I think ‘edgy’ is one of those words that designers use as a way to deflect criticism; to take the onus off themselves and put it on the viewer or critic.

    –GothamTomato
    gothamtomato.etsy.com

    • Xxx

      Isn’t that kind of racist?

  • http://twitter.com/onetimeko maybe more

    I actually really loved the top half of the yellow polkadot ensamble… It’s dramatic and over the top for sure, but there was something there. Beyond that nothing really had any “spark” to it. A lot of his pieces were just desperate club clothes.

    I genuinely hope that since the show he has been able to sit back, lick his wounds and see the truth for what it is, otherwise he’s never going to have a real business. It’s a shame because he definitely does seem to have the technical skill… Maybe his success lies in collaboration with another designer with a clearer aesthetic, if his personality would allow it.

  • Maravonda

    The first 4 maybe could have been cute dresses…but they looked like 7th grade sewing projects with fabrics from WalMart. And not in a good way.

  • Carolyn

    Boy, was this episode painful to watch. I follow your tweets as I watch, and I was more entertained by them than this poor guy. I think what you said last week also applies here–it’s as if this is an expensive hobby and another parent took a financial hit to help out a child (poor summary). However, Joe is amazing to watch. I really envy his instant assessment and direction as a teacher.

  • Lelu

    I don’t know if you guys are familiar with the Ebony Fashion Fair concept, but it figures into Jedda-Kahn’s aesthetic. It’s got its roots in African culture and African-American style, in that it often uses very bold fabrics, crazy busy designs and sometimes hats that look like they’re about to sprout a propeller and lift Sistah Friend out of the arena and up up and away.
    It’s a viable business, if that is what you like, but Jedda-Khan didn’t do it well. Here is the thing – he could have a great career doing Fashion Fair stuff and over-the-top clothes in that market. But if you’re gonna go mainstream, it has to be edited. And nobody likes crappily made clothes, no matter how bold it is. I m surprised that Joe didn’t have any urban designers or clients weighing in, because he didn’t seem to get the aesthetic at all. It being crappily made was another thing all together. But there are some people who would eat that gold brocade up. And they are called 45-year-old and older educated black women on the way to their Delta Sigma Theta reunion in Atlanta.
    Again, sometimes it’s over the top. But, when made well, there is a market. Too bad brother does not make things well.

    • Becca D’Bus

      Thank you for saying this. It’s what I kept thinking as I was reading the recap.

    • MilaXX

      yep I call it ghetto fabulousness and in the ATL AA community it’s very popular.

    • scottyf

      I really appreciate your comments as well. You articulated so much of what I was thinking, but didn’t have the words to say.

      As I watched this episode, I found myself getting much more angry with Joe than with Jedda-Kahn. As you all have intimated, and as the show revealed: he is obviously still basically a student who, honestly, I found for the most part approached Joe as a respectful, good black boy taught by his mama and grand-mama. I felt Joe was MUCH more condescending and dismissive with him than I have seen in his interactions with designers in other episodes. Granted, that may be because either consciously or unconsciously it became clear to Joe that this kid was really raw. However I think most of the drama was manufactured. I saw nothing in Jedda-Kahn that even slightly matched the hubris of say Kara Janx or Layla L’Obatti.

      Poor construction and time management are simply that. And it is obvious that this kid is just not ready for the market that Joe was trying open up for him. But it once more reminded me that fashion is still basically a homogeneous world dominated by a Euro-centric mindset. If you don’t fit into that mold, then you’d better have your aesthetic shit together and a VERY strong sense of who you are. Jedda-Kahn obviously didn’t.

      • PorfirioDiaz

        Joe was much, much more visibly angry with Jedda-Kahn than any of the other designers, and we’ve seen some stubborn designers. I kept thinking that the accumulative effect of the stubborn, self-sabotaging designers was taking its toll, but I couldn’t ignore the racial implication here. Black guy doesn’t listen to his superior and Joe lashes the fuck out.

        And also? Who’s his client? Amber Rose and the millions of women who want to look like her.

      • Anonymous

        You have a very interesting take on this episode. I assumed Joe was mainly reacting in frustration to Jedda-Kahn’s seeming refusal to comprehend anything he didn’t want to hear. I know his unreadable “blank face” was frustrating for me. Though my take on it was a bit different, I can certainly understand where you’re coming from regarding how condescending and dismissive Joe was toward Jedda-Kahn versus the previous designers. My frustration came from not being able to understand why this episode was filmed at all. What was the point?

        • Redbecca

          I think this is an interesting take. I’ve never heard about the fashion fairs that you describe, but I do live in a mostly Black neighborhood in ATL and I’ve never seen people wearing things that look like what Jedda-Khan designs – maybe they are special outfits for going out? Where would one wear these outfits? However, if that’s his market, he needed to say that was his customer. Joe Zee asked so many times – Who are you designing for? And the woman on his own staff said she wouldn’t wear his clothes. I kept wishing he would bring in one of his own custom clients to explain what she liked about the clothes and where she wore them.

          • scottyf

            Ebony Fashion Fair is a traveling fashion show that started in 1956, and as Lelu wrote, features designs reminiscent (albeit of a much higher quality) of Jedda-Kahn’s.

            As Lelu also stated these are types of clothing that speak to many professional black women interested in one-of-a-kind looks with a certain flair. Women in prestigious black sororities such as Delta Sigma Theta and Alpha Kappa Alpha, sometimes choose dramatic attire to wear to the myriad events and conventions sponsored by those organizations.

            As a little black gay boy in training, I grew up looking through the pages of Ebony and surreptitiously re-creating the couture from the Fashion Fair spreads for Barbie dolls. So the minute I saw Jedda-Kahn’s designs I understood–even if he doesn’t seem to–the origins of his aesthetic.

          • Anonymous

            Still haven’t seen the episode, but . . . while I’m not part of this niche in the fashion world, even I have a passing familiarity with it. I’m so sorry there was such a disconnect between the designer and Joe. I wish Jedda-Khan could have articulated better the market segment he was aiming for (assuming he did want to appeal to this market). I wish Joe would have done more to tease out his best market. I’m sure Joe is familiar with Ebony Fashion Fair — not just through his extensive knowledge of the fashion world, but also through his work in the publishing field. Seems like a missed opportunity, but I wish Jedda-Khan well.

          • ladyjax

            Hi, here’s a little history of the Ebony Fashion Fair: Ebony Fashion Fair. As Lelu pointed out, there’s a market for what Jedda-Khan was going after. Growing up in New Jersey in the 70s, it was a huge deal when the Ebony Fashion Fair came to town. My mom, my aunt, heck, just about every Black woman for miles would get their girlfriends together and go. There was always at least one woman selling tickets to it at church and since it was sponsored by Johnson Publishing, the ads were in Jet and Ebony, along with Essence. Lots of dressing up involved!

          • annie

            Thanks to all of you who chimed in on Ebony Fashion Fair and the whole ATL fashion aesthetic. It was all news to me and put a completely different spin on the episode.
            It makes sense of the disclaimer at the episode’s end that he decided not to finish the collection and just continue with his custom work. He obviously wants to continue to design for his client — and he does have a client.

          • David X

            @annie: That’s “a client” … singular, right?

          • David X

            @annie: That’s “a client” … singular, right?

      • muzan-e

        …: he is obviously still basically a student who, honestly, I found for the most part approached Joe as a respectful, good black boy taught by his mama and grand-mama to be nice to his elders.

        Thank you so much for mentioning this. Jedda-Kahn’s is the first episode which I’ve found almost unwatchable. The sheer aggression of a L’Obatti is something that I can shrug off, but the excruciating misunderstanding between these two was really just painful. His quiet, composed reactions didn’t read to me like denial or incomprehension, and certainly not disinterest – but like the reserved response of someone who’s been taught that there’s a certain way to behave in the company of your teachers and your elders. In my experience, it’s very much a cultural dissonance that I experience as a European amongst Americans: I’ve had collaborations become minefields in the past, simply because I and a partner were misreading each other’s reactions… which over time compounded those reactions. *g*

        My fear is that at some point early in the show, he seemed to have taken on the idea that this entire process wasn’t so much about the improvement of Jedda-Kahn’s business… but the parading of Jedda-Kahn before people who think poorly of his work, and whose criticisms he must weather without response before returning to the sewing room to continue. I’d wager money that he simply didn’t grasp the point of an interview with Georgina Chapman, that it became for him a round of: “Look at this spectacular work; look at this success; now you may smile as she tells you what you’ve done wrong”.

        I’ve known plenty of good, smart people who, when confronted with a person of Jedda-Kahn’s temperament, immediately mistake it for disinterest or detachment and grow terribly, terribly frustrated with it. I can’t blame Joe too much for this. And I can’t excuse Jedda-Kahn for what followed, either… simply because this is the business, and if he means to enter it, then.. this is what he’s choosing to enter.

        • scottyf

          I’m sitting here at my desk tearing up at your words. So eloquent and aptly put. The young man did his homework: he went to the trouble of going to the boutique’s website and downloading their catalogue ! That is not the response of someone who isn’t invested in the process. As stated, the concept of AOTL seems to be to embrace established designers who have hit a snag. While Jedda-Kahn could be considered “established”, he was obviously a neophyte designer in a niche market. How a consummate professional (and hottie) like Joe Zee could approach such a designer without doing his homework, is a little dis-heartening.

          • Mbarryl

            scottyf. You are right. The show was very edited, but if you look you will see the cut and paste jobs. Really, I am waiting for the unpublished clips so that we would know the naked truth. Jedda is Raw and honest but where was his mentor? Why did they let this show air? I really feel that Joe Zee was suprised that Jedda Kahn was not intimindated by him and Jedda realized that Joe was trying to catergorize him with what is safe instead of what is new and imaginative. I think Jedda didn’t want to finish this taping because he saw through the bull crap but didn’t want to say so on camera because he knew it would be edited out. They never really let the designer express his point of view if it was contrary to Joe Zee’s opinion or advice. Joe Zee could not appear to be offbase.

            Trust me, in the very near future, Jedda Kahn will be a fashion icon in the fashion world and Joe Zee can kiss my ass!!

          • Mbarryl

            What the hell wehe you guys looking at. it was pretty obvious to me that after awhile Joe Zee and Jedda Kahn did not see eye to eye on Jedda’s vision for his designs. That did not make Jedda wrong, it merely showed that he is different. Fashion design is an art that people wear like a painting that people see. Jedda Kahn is not only a gifted fashion designer, but, he is also a degree graduate of Bauder College. Jedda does not design for ready wear (although he can), but for unique women who don’t wear ready wear fashions all the time. I felt that Joe Zee orchestrated the editing process to demean Jedda Kahn. Contrary to the descriptives about Jeddda’s business, he has a strong client base and it is growing. Get the facts not the bullshit!

            Jedda is moving up in the fashion world and is considered to be a rising star by many celebrities and noted fashion magazines. Be on the look out for Jedda Kahn. Don’t beleive everything you see on tv!

    • Mary

      That’s a very interesting point and I can’t believe I did not consider it when watching. That IS the perfect market for him and Joe is usually so spot on about choosing the right market/audience for the budding designer, I’m surprised he didn’t have someone more appropriate for Jedda-Khan. Maybe there isn’t much of a market available in NYC for that? Not sure. And now that I think about it Joe should have pushed Jedda more towards making stage wear or costumes rather than sparkly cocktail dresses.

  • Puggerpete

    No, no, and no. If he hasn’t studied somewhere he should enroll in the first design school that will accept him. That said, he definitely needs an attitude adjustment unless he’s only doing this for his own amusement. If you can’t sell you work then you better shape up or make a career change.

  • Fa

    How gorgeous is Georgina Chapman?! Holy hell – those looks AND that talent?! Go, girl!

  • MilaXX

    This episode was almost painful to watch. First I thought Jedda Kahn was one of those ATL designers stuck in that ghetto fabulous mindset. The thing is those clothes only sell in the insular world of ATL and music videos. If Jedda wanted to expand into stores Joe’s advice was truly the way to go. However when he was so ill prepared for the the Scoop presentation I thought he was just passive aggressive. Throwing that dress in at the end was him trying to prove that his stuff does sell. However, that was a delusional idea at best, because he’d already checked out the Scoop website and knew that dress wasn’t something they’d sell. Yep he self sabotaged to save his own pride.

    • Lelu

      I agree! I was yelling at the screen “How could you blow this opportunity?” When his own staffer wouldn’t buy his clothes, he should have known there was a problem. I was so disappointed that he blew it.

    • Anonymous

      Yes! I felt he absolutely sealed his fate with his passive aggressive attitude toward the presentation. Delusional indeed.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t seen this episode yet but I am wincing already based on the recap and comments. I am really enjoying this program. Going back a few episodes, did anyone else notice that Nordstrom has made even more styles by Radenroro available on their website? I was delighted to see some success come from Joe’s efforts for that team. By the way, I bought the teddy bear print blouse, it arrived a couple of weeks ago and I love it — cute and beautifully made. If anyone else bought anything, I’d love to hear a review.

  • http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

    they’re not designed. they’re sewn. badly.

    they’re not edgy. edgy implies some sort of risk. it’s shorthand for wandering around the margins. this doesnt wander the margins. it doesnt wander anywhere. it’s, once again, 80s/90s “inspired” stuff that looks like it was created, maybe even modified, once again, from perhaps a simplicity pattern. there is no deeper context & there is no risk. there isnt any ironing either, which would fail even around the edges. around the edges, if it’s wrinkled there must needs be a reason.

  • Mac

    I’m so happy reading this recaps, I can’t find this show anywhere online since I’m in south America…. I watch it through T Lo and kittens’ opinions.

  • Judy

    This is the first All on the Line that I watched *before* reading your recap. I was disappointed. I could see where this guy and Joe Zee were oil and water–Joe was irritating him when he wanted to help him, and Jedda-Kahn was irritating Joe without meaning to. It was painful to watch. But the disaster of the buyers’ meeting was unexpected. I couldn’t figure out why everyone was so enthusiastic over the navy dress, and it went downhill from there into safety-pins and unhemmed mess. It was all very odd. Maybe this reality TV is too real for me.

  • http://ohquidnunc.wordpress.com/ QtheQuidnunc

    All I kept thinking watching this was, “He’s not ready for Joe Zee, he needs Tim Gunn”. Also, Lelu you’re right, there is something very Ebony Fashion Fair about his work but there are a couple of problems with that: 1st, I’m not sure if he knows that and therefore couldn’t tell Joe that that was the direction he was headed towards. During the conversation with Georgina he could only point to his fit model as a muse. 2nd, as you pointed out, it still wasn’t done very well. I don’t see anybody wearing that vest, no matter how emphatically his brother called it “Fashion”

  • twotonepeeper

    You could buy better dresses at forever 21

  • QuiltRx

    The sketches were much more interesting than the final products, which were VERY different. This almost looks like a case of OVER-editing the idea, then throwing too much at the finished piece. If he had gone with the original ideas (and not used fabrics that looked like lining fabric), he might have come out much better.

  • Brent

    there were 3 hilarious moments on this episode. 1. when they ask the intern if she would wear the clothes and the brother is nodding YES in the background 2. when jedda, with his brother’s assistance, is picking out what glasses he’s going to wear from his super quirky collection and 3. when he shows the dress to scoop that has been on a mannequin the whole episode. someone please give the brothers their own show! i could watch them all day! and such good manners! i think this was just the wrong show for them, as others have pointed out it is not a main stream aesthetic but plenty of women love this kind of over the top fashion. really really think a show about them and their clientele could be amazing.

  • http://profiles.google.com/postsyoucandanceto postsyoucandanceto

    I believe that Jedda-Kahn is a perfectionist and that is his tragic flaw.

    He’s created a world for himself where his customers come to him; he only has to interact with people who accept his vision totally and unquestioningly. He flat out refused to “compromise” the aesthetic. His word choice is telling: he views his work in all-or-nothing, completely binary terms. And any variation from his point of view was a defeat. When he showed his clothing to Joe in that boutique/bar where he occasionally sells, I have to believe that they make all their revenue at the bar — and if they don’t make their money on retail, then the clothes — especially Jedda’s — are not required to sell. I’m guessing Jedda sold there because he knew it was the kind of place where they take anything people make and he wasn’t going to be told “customers aren’t buying your product, we’re cancelling your account”.

    I say this because someone whose work is as well constructed as his shouldn’t have unfinished hems unless (tinfoil hat time!) he wants them. And he didn’t want them as some sort of deconstructed detail, but as a self-effacing sabotage: He can tell himself it’s because they don’t like the hems. That way, he can avoid the prospect that they don’t like the design, because then he (in his mindset) failed as a designer, and that is the fear that he has built his world to avoid, even if it means precluding success. Success and failure are two sides of the same proverbial coin; they only exist as a pair, and he will sacrifice the former out of fear for the latter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/verahannaford Vera Thomas Hannaford

    Clearly, Jedda-Kahn wasn’t ready to give up his “hot mess” fashion aesthetic and the blank looks he gave Joe convinced me that he wasn’t from the beginning. Funny, because I loved his personal style (although my husband said that Jedda-Kahn and his male crew looked like mini Spike Lees) It would have been so cool if he would translate that to his designs for women. Methinks there’s something there.

  • scottyf

    Regarding this whole thing about Jedda-Kahn’s “blank looks”: remember:

    1. Shows are edited. We have no way of knowing if the shot shown was his immediate response to what was going on.
    2. Different people have different ways of reacting to emotional news.

    As with a lot of people of color, I’ve had to struggle my entire life with trying to figure out whether I’m seeing something as a “black thing” when it really isn’t. As I’ve gotten older, and achieved perspective, I’ve realized that often it’s not. However sometimes it really is.

    I think the thing that made this episode somewhat of a train wreck for me had to do with what amounts to a “cultural disconnect.” I have no idea what Zee’s personal background is, but I know to make it in the world of Fashion HAD to include some form of cultural assimilation. I just got the feeling watching him that he had no idea of the things that Lelu spoke of. I don’t know if that would have made a difference in terms of his advice, but it might have given him a different vocabulary with which to mentor Jedda-Kahn.

    I got no more sense of cockiness from this young man than I have from any other designer featured in this series. What I DID get, as other posters have mentioned, is a sense of an artist in an insular community and lifestyle that Joe was unfamiliar with. I think Zee was pushing him into a world that he wasn’t ready for. A world–that if he were a bit older and more seasoned–he might have much more eloquently rejected.

    Personally, if I were his mentor I would have pushed him to design a menswear collection. A lot of gay boys and metro-sexuals would snatch up the kinds of things that he and his brother were wearing.

    • MilaXX

      The more I think about this episode the more I think there was a Mars/Venus communication issue going on between Joe & Jedda. As Scotty & Lelu have mentioned there may have been some cultural nuances that Joe was missing. I wish he had taken Jedda to see and urban clothing designer like Russel Simons like he took the In the ‘Between the Sheets’ folks to see Garo Sparo. Someone like Russel could perhaps better speak to how to make the transition from predominately urban wear to a broaden range of clientele. It seems to me that part of the self sabotage was Jedda’s insecurity about making that leap.

  • Jgh

    I think the disconnect with Jedda-Kahn (and with some of the previous designers) is he wants to keep doing what he’s doing the way he is doing it BUT make money at it. Joe is approaching this more from a demand view, saying this is where the market is and this is who you have to design for to be commercially successful. Neither one seemed willing to bridge that gap.

  • AlyLight

    That pre-made dress makes me think of the Slave Leia outfit.
    Taste issues.

  • Mary

    This was the first episode I was disappointed by All On The Line. I just did not get what Joe was wasting his time with Jedda for either. I mean those clothes were just so terrible. It wasn’t just bad taste – it was HORRIFIC taste and a total inability to see the writing on the wall. Except I think Joe should have realized mid-way through Jedda chose GOLD LAME as a fabric choice. No. And then when Joe showed up to check on the progress and he only had 3 dresses finished – he should have canceled the meeting and walked. Jedda is simply not interested in doing anything but putzing around in his little Brooklyn studio making ridiculous craft projects and calling them clothes. Those things are like walking scrapbooks, except worse because at least scrap book pages generally have a theme.

  • Anonymous

    Did he design and make the hats he is wearing? They look much more interesting and wearable than the dresses.

  • GenXer

    How can I become one of Joe’s fashionista friends?

    If it was finished and a little more polished, I’d totally wear the Day-4-Night.

  • Tired mommy

    I wish we could see how designers are selected for this show–more specifically what they think they are getting into. Kara Janx, Gemma Khang and Radenroro seemed to really want Joe Zee to come in and help turn their businesses around. The others didn’t seem so on-board with the process. I’m wondering if they are approached by Sundance or apply or what??

  • SMM

    I think Joe spent time with this “designer” just to make an episode out of it that shows one of the extremes, so in a way making a stock character out of Jedda Kahn for viewers to carry with them as they watch future episodes (I would say “us/we”, but I have no access to the show from where I am, but your recaps are really compelling!). I see no other reason otherwise to spend time with him.

    • SMM

      I most certainly did not need that last dress to tell me he had taste issues. I saw it right from the thumbnail (which is incidentally the same dress), and opening photos only confirmed that suspicion.

  • jesinalbuquerque

    Here’s what I don’t get: I can understand why you’d pick maddening but talented designers for a show like this. But sullen with no visible talent — good lord. Did they need an aa male for the demographic? There’s gotta be one out there with some talent.

  • Anonymous

    I kept thinking at the beginning, ‘what is Joe seeing that I am not seeing?’ But whatever it was, even Joe couldn’t tease it out of Jedda-Kahn. I don’t understand these people who don’t want to take his advice. They all have failing businesses, they all need help, here comes the help and they ignore it?? Whatevs.

  • http://polishgazing.blogspot.com/ Serena

    I would definitely wear the crepe silk charmeuse look, if it was made better, which is a pretty big if. It is a very chic look.

  • http://polishgazing.blogspot.com/ Serena

    I would definitely wear the crepe silk charmeuse look, if it was made better, which is a pretty big if. It is a very chic look.

  • Anonymous

    The white dress in the 7th picture (next to the one that the woman is touching) is very interesting.

    • David X

      @Kaonashi:

      The problem is that that white dress is Georgina Chapman’s dress, not Jedda-Kahn’s.
      That was the side by side comparison where the women gravitated towards Chapman’s dresses and (politely) tore Jedda-Kahn’s to shreds.

      • Anonymous

        Ah, I see! Thanks!

  • David X

    Did anyone else catch the bit where Jedda-Kahn says early on, “Nervous is for drama queens,” then when he’s frozen in his tracks and Joe asks him what’s wrong, JK says, “I’m a little bit nervous.” Funny as all hell.

  • jamie pierce

    I just realized, having hit the first man featured on this show, that almost all the designers are women. That’s another bona fide for this series, which as T-Lo have pointed out, is fantastic for being a reality program that doesn’t award prizes, force ridiculous challenges and rest on goofy guest stars. I just discovered On the Line and love it for it’s real reality.

  • Anonymous
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Eddy/1192582678 Bryan Eddy

    i hate “fashion ” .Its usually a bunch of awful looking things made only with anorexic she beasts in mind. I get this other guy ,and clearly he sees the talent in Jedda or he wouldnt waste his time. However ,i think Jeddah is an incredible artist and shouldnt DUMB down his art ,so he can complete with the martha stewart ,Target lines. He makes art .I almost get the sense his natural ,African heritage is shown in his art .Jeddah is an artist ,and cant be expected to design a dress for a united airline attendant in mind.Its no cchallenge to him. Me i like a woman in a simple,one color dress.But his stuff just screams.I feel sorry for him .I just wanderd into this tv show on cable.Good luck Jeddah …i hope your talent wins out.Follow your heart .If you werent so talented that man wouldnt be interested in making you “popular”.You exude fashion.BE YOU .whatever the cost.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QDTYKBJF23YJKXYRP2LWWOMJFQ TN

    I had to comment because I saw this when there was a rerun of it on whatevernetwork it was, and I really like the show.  Jedda was an ass, not for his designs or bad combinations and color choices, it was the way he showed up to meet with the buyers with what he had.  

  • Anonymous

    Finally catching up on this series and reading the comments here has been really affirming because this whole episode felt like a giant case of miscommunication.

    And I love the diamond design on that dress. Yes, the fabric was wrong but the design is super cute. Then again, I liked some of his original pieces. The white bead dress – the one the fashionistas saw – especially needed only small editing to be commercial. First time I felt Joe didn’t naturally work from the designer’s strength.